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All right, coming up on the show, first of all,
I hope everybody had a great weekend. Coming up a
little bit later on the show, former Charleston meir Danny
Jones is going to stop. I got several things I
want to talk to Danny about, including I think of
the date was June sixth. It was the anniversary of
one of the more infamous, infamous events in the history
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of Canawa County, the famous, the famed, the infamous, as
I said, Ganawha County pot plane crash. So I want
to get into that a little bit with Danny. Also,
of course, Danny always has an eye on what's going
on in a news situation with Trump versus Musk. We'll
get into that. And also, I mean, what's the horrific
scenes that we're playing out on your television or online
(02:19):
last night and what's going on in Los Angeles right now,
So we'll get Danny's take on that. Also coming up
a little bit later on the show. Secretary of State
Chris Warner is here. Tomorrow is Super Tuesday across the
state of West Virginia. In the first two weeks of June,
there were a total of one hundred and four municipal
elections across the state of West Virginia, and Secretary Warner
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is going to talk about that. He's also at Boys
State and Girls State one today one tomorrow, so we'll
get his take on that. And of course, your calls
and text are always welcome. Big Ley Pigley Wiggly Hotline
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five five zero zero eight. Couple things in the news.
First of all, the state baseball tournament now with the books.
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Congratulations to Hurricane Redskins, Ripley, Viking's a couple of local
teams that won championships. Now we now go into that
weird holding pattern, if you will, for sports until we
start talking football at the start of August. To be
good for our sports department to get a little time
off because they have been running ragged between the softball
tournaments and the baseball tournament and so on and so forth.
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And speaking of sports, I guess the Cinderella season for
the Mouth of Air baseball team came to an end
last night at the hands of LSU and the Super Regional.
Second straight year. Though that the Mountaineers made it to
the Super Regional first time. I think I heard Kyle
say this morning that's the first time the Dad's happened
in program history. So all in all, a great season
for the mounth and Aer baseball team. But LSU man,
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I mean, I'm not a big college baseball guy. I
watch it from time to time. LSU is just there's
something else, and the Mountaineers just overpowered by LSU both
on Saturday and then that late gay later game last night.
But again, overall, great season for the mountain Here baseball team.
Something in the news too. Brad mclhanny has a story
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posted on the website. You may able to check out.
The headline is West Virginia ranks forty first in child
well being. We actually did move up though, from forty
fourth to forty first, so we got that going for us.
This comes from something called the Kids Count Data Book,
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and it's basically a fifty states report of data developed
by the Anni E. Casey Foundation taking a look at
kids and kids' issues. So we went from forty fourth
to forty first in that. And in case you're keeping
score at home, some other numbers we are as far
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as it comes to kids, we are thirty and economic
well being for the kids, thirty ninth in health, which
I'm gonna be honest with you, that wouldn't kind of
surprise me. I thought we would do a little worse
than that. But we're thirty nine and thirty second in
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something that is called family and community context, and forty
fifth in education. It's really a fascinating story. There's some
quotes on Brad's story from Kelly Allen No Relation that
talks about this, and of course you know how it is.
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Folks with numbers, everybody's going to be able to manipulate them. Well,
it means that the Republicans are screwing up. Well, they've
actually gone up under the Republicans and what they were
in the Democrats. So you know, I'm not going to
get into that because you can take the numbers, you
can make them read whatever you want. But again, we're
not great that overall in forty first, but we are
up from forty fourth, so positive new positive note there,
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I guess you can check out Brad's story about it
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We're going to be keeping a close eye on the
weather too, because yet again it looks like West Virginia
is in for some severe weather certain parts of the
state anyway, including the Kanawa Valley sometime as you head
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home late this afternoon. We had a couple of good
days runs, you know, with weather last week, but we
did have some severe weather over the weekend. There was
actually some flooding in parts of West Virginia. I think
Bridgeport was one of those areas. Looked like in the
pictures I saw posted online that they really got hammered
late late Saturday night. I think it was. And we
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had a couple of big showers here in the kanawh
Valley yesterday and a couple of cool looking rainbows as well.
I'm not sure that that had anything to do with
the event in Charleston on Saturday. That's just a it's
a phenomenon of mother nature, if you will. So again,
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West Virginia. Also, do want to mention coming up on
tomorrows show, Dick Daddry is going to join us. He's
the executive director of the Kanawha Valley Fellowship Home that
is coming up on tomorrow's show. One other note, I
didn't want to pass along. You've heard me on this
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show talk about how social media, in my opinion, has,
in my opinion, has has made a a much angrier,
angrier group overall, whether it's Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative, or whatever.
Our good friend TJ. Meadows hosted talk Line co host
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and I'm gonna be talking to TJ a little bit
later on the show. Our good friend TJ. Meadows was
following quite extensively this situation in Los Angeles where President
Trump has sent in the FEDS federal troops in there,
much to the chagrin of the governor of the state
of California and also the mayor of the city of
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Los Angeles. Got I mean, it seems to be from
what I heard on ABC News this morning, it seems
to be a little bit calmer now than what it was.
But I mean over the weekend, I mean, you saw
the pictures. If you turned on the TV or you
picked up your phone and perused in social media, you
saw how bad it was. There, but TJ got into
a discussion about it on social media, and I normally
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I don't comment on things like that. I may post
something on my own page, but normally on a fellow
broadcaster or felt a newsperson's page, I normally don't comment.
I save it for my own page.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
But there was.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Something, and I'll spare you the details, but there was
something that was said on TJ's page, and I made
a comment about it, and somehow it got into the
mind wars of you know, the nineteen twenties, late teens,
early twenties, which I don't know exactly how that happened
and what it has to do with what's going on
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in Los Angeles. Actually I do know what the correlation
is federal troops being brought in. But I made a
comment and a person whom I don't know commented and
said to me, I can't wait to let me clean
this up so Ryan doesn't fire me. I can't wait
to urinate on your grave. That's what a person said
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about me, that they could not wait to urinate on
my one. I'm going to be cremated, so I guess
you just have to knock over the vase. Uh where
I mean you could. You could disagree with people with
anything I say on this show or what I post
online or whatever. But I mean to say, they can't
wait till you're in eate And I cleaned it up
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on my grave because because you disagree with something I said.
I mean, this is this where we are. I mean
as a society, that that that that that's that's okay.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's
all I got to say is, folks, I don't know.
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It is nine, It's twenty. Welcome back to the show.
We're efforting again. West Virginia Secretary State Chris Warner on
the line. Tomorrow's Super Tuesday. As far as municipal elections
go in the state of West Virginia, total between the
first two tuesdays of one hundred and four municipal elections
in the state of West Virginia. And some of you
may be thinking, what there's municipal elections, Well, the turnout's
never very good. I'm really gonna be honest with you
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Western Didion. The Secretary of State, Chris Warner. Good morning, sir, Hey,
good morning Dave.
Speaker 12 (14:16):
It's great to be with you from Lewis County this morning.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, we're going to get into why you're in Lewis
County coming up a little bit later on. But as
far as the municipal elections go, as I said last Tuesday,
tomorrow considered well, tomorrow really is a big one for
municipal elections around the state, with seventy six elections being
held tomorrow, including if I got my information right, I
think there's three in Kanawa County tomorrow. We'll get to
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those in a moment. Secretary, why is it so important
for people to take part in these elections?
Speaker 12 (14:46):
You know, I just had the opportunity to talk to
Mountain Air Boys State, Dave, and it's important because you know,
as we talked about this morning with Mountain Air Boys State,
these they refer to them as citizens here, not in
their boys state. But if you're not registered to vote,
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you're just a resident of your city or your county
or your state. By registering to vote, it gives you
the opportunity to become a citizen, and you become an
active citizen when you actually vote, And it's all a
part of the process. And some of these very small communities,
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if they don't have twenty people to show up and vote,
even though there might not be a contested election, the
state coach says that that community shall dissolve. So it's
extremely important to get out and have a say. So though,
in those contested elections where you have an input on
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things that affect your daily live, when you're electing a
city council member or a mayor, those I think, quite frankly,
are more important than your state in several offices, and
that they have a role in your daily life.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
And I don't disagree with that. We're talking to what
the West Virginia Secretary of State Chris Warner, because yeah, I mean,
these are the people that actually impact your lives. And
here in Kanawha County, the voters in Clintdennon, Marmette, and Pratt,
all three of those here in Kanawha County will be
headed to the polls tomorrow. And one of the things
that I have found and I know that you can
agree with this, is that there's lesson less people that
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seem to want to get involved, to put their name
on the ballot to run for offices. So unfortunately, a
lot of times when voters show up at the polls,
and this is not the fault of anybody, I mean,
it's on the fault of your office or anything. But
they show up at the polls and I don't notice
they don't have a lot of choices because a lot
of people, you know, people just don't want to seem
to get involved as much anymore. I'm talking about those
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running for office secretary.
Speaker 12 (16:49):
You're right, Dave, we now have too many keyboard warriors
out there that want to poke holes in anything that
any elected official. But again, these are the people that
are taking the calls about the barking dog or the
snowbyan plowed in front of their driveway, you know, the
things that municipal leaders take care of. So I would
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just ask everybody to take a step back, look and
realize what these people are doing. You know, they work
seven days a week. They're answering questions in the grocery
store on their way to the post office. It's it's
a thankless job at times, and I just want to
applaud those that do run for office and put their
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name up on the ballot and take the grief that they.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
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what plans has the office got for being out and
about tomorrow?
Speaker 12 (17:51):
I've got eight seven or eight communities that I'm on
hit in Harrison County starting in Bridgeport tomorrow, but we're
going to cover Harrison and h and Marion Counties. We
are going to have one staff member from the office
at every contested election uh in the state tomorrow. So there,
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I think it's seventy seven that will actually vote tomorrow,
seventy seven communities, and we're going to have everywhere that
there's a contested race, we're going to have somebody either
from our investigations or Elections division. And again I'm covering
seven or eight in north central West Virginia.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Any issues with the first round last week, first round of.
Speaker 12 (18:36):
Don't I don't think that there's anything that's been a notable,
you know, the normal but you know, the election will
uh ten days later will be the audit or the
canvassing as as some would refer to that. And you know,
so we expect everything to go well. We've got a
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great field stand as you well know, and they're spread
out across the state as well, offering help as far
as the training goes and making sure that everybody is
ready to go for election day. You know, the important
part about the Secretary of State's office is that there
is never a down year. They're either municipal elections or
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state wide elections, so every year is an election year
for us, and we treated as such.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
And if people do go to the polling place tomorrow
and some of these elections, Secretary and they see something
that doesn't seem quite right, you know, you see some
electioneering going on, or you see people with campaign materials,
or you got questions. Things just don't look like that
they're on the up and up. What do they need
to do?
Speaker 12 (19:44):
We ask folks first of all to address that with
the poll workers. But if you see something, say something,
and you can do that by going to WV fraud
is the telephone number to call, put you directly into
the investigation office. At the Secretary of State, and we
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have folks that can deploy quickly.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Boy, we let you go because I know you're busy.
You get some other things to get to. So you
mentioned that you're up in Lewis County. Boys State, I
think today in Girls State going on tomorrow? Is that right?
Speaker 12 (20:20):
Actually, I just finished with the flag raising ceremony and
spoke to all two hundred and forty citizens of Boys State,
and I'm on my way to Randolph County to speak
for the first day of.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Girls Oh okay, okay, that's my fault. Yeah, they're actually
going on at the same time. What why is Boys
and Girls State? Why is this so important for people
or for the for the youngsters, not youngsters, the young
adults involved.
Speaker 12 (20:46):
You know, we had the opportunity to talk this morning,
and after I had a chance to address the entire crowd,
I was just refreshing to see the number of citizens
that wanted to step forward and talk about what their
plans are. Many of them are trying to get into
the military academies. You too wanted to go to the
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Air Force Academy. They're juniors on their way to becoming seniors.
And we talked about the Jennings Randolph Award, where if
you register more than eighty five percent of your senior class,
we recognize that school with the Jennings Randolph Award, and
then we invite them to the capital during the legislative
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session in January and February to recognize the two students
that led that effort as honorary Secretaries of State. So
this is all about citizenship. They're now citizens of boy state,
but we want them to become citizens in their community
and their county and in their state when they go
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back home on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
All right, Secretary, will let you get back to it.
I appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to
be with us the happy Super Tuesday election day tomorrow.
Speaker 12 (22:01):
Dave, thanks for the opportunity today, all.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
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of Clindennon, Marmette, and Pratt will all be headed to
the polls tomorrow. We got a little info from a
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the program here. His son, Hayden, is the sitting governor
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happened to his dad, But now he's a good kid.
Speaker 12 (22:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I'm just kidding, but yeah, the congratulations to Hayden. Danny Jones,
former Charleston mayor, has stopped by.
Speaker 8 (22:55):
How you doing, man, How you doing? I'm doing good, buddy,
Thanks for having me over.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Thank you for being here. All right, So before we
get into anything else, I gotta ask you Musk versus Trump, Yeah,
what do you think about it?
Speaker 12 (23:08):
Well?
Speaker 8 (23:08):
I think Trump will come out on the losing end
because he just can't allow the slightest slight to go unanswered.
And what he should have done was just ignored it.
And I mean, our federal government needs SpaceX, for instance.
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And I don't know if Trump, I mean, if Musk
didn't take his medicine. I mean, I don't know what's
causing all this? Well, he has some issues.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
He has some major issues. And now there's a lot
of reports out there about about drug use with Moska,
about the amount of I mean things like I mean,
this is when you know, widely published about the use
of ecstasy and uh uh and ketamine and all on
all these other things. So maybe maybe he took the
medication or didn't take enough of something I don't know.
Speaker 8 (24:02):
Ketam Yeah sounds like a cat food.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
It is, It's exactly what it is. So but but
I mean, I'm looking at this, you know, and I'm
seeing and here's something that was that was brought out
to me by some of my more right leaning conservative friends.
They a couple of people have speculated this whole thing
was just a work that that eventually that this is
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just to kind of get attention, to distract from other
things and whatever, that there was never a rift between
them and I had somebody text the the uh the
Network show last week and say Trump was playing everybody.
There is no feud or whatever. But here's what I
would say to that, even Danny if it were, I mean,
do we really need a president that is that that
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is doing things like this?
Speaker 8 (24:49):
It's it's he's such a polarizing figure and he doesn't
need any help. Yeah, So for some reason Elon Musk
got upset. Maybe it's because that appointment he wanted. But
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Trump should have let it go and not competed. He
made it a competition when he responded the very first time.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah. Well, and that's that's kind of the this OPERENDI
for Donald Trump. If even as I said before, well
before politics, he's a very competitive individual. He buy maybe
even his own admission people close to him. He can
be petty at times, very he doesn't he can't stand
anybody he in his mind, getting the upper hand on him.
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But I don't know that he's ever met anybody quite
like Elon Musk, you know, somebody that doesn't need his money,
that's got more. He's the richest man on earth. I
don't think that Trump, in my opinion, Danny has has
encountered a lot of people like that.
Speaker 8 (25:52):
And President Trump has enough problems out there in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
For instance, right, I mean in the moment, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:58):
He's got enough on his play. He doesn't need to
be involved in a tit for tat for between he
and the richest man on the planet.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
All right, So you're a you're a California guy. Uh,
you're taking what's going on right now Los Angeles.
Speaker 8 (26:13):
I'm an hour south of there, Okay, And it's it
doesn't take too much social media to bring out a
mob like that. I mean, I've seen in Long Beach.
I've seen mobs turn out to protest Monsanto for instance.
Uh that's been quite a few years ago. But it
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doesn't take much. And a lot of the the constituency
is Mexican and most of those people are just hard
working folks. They're they're not looking for any trouble, but
there's enough of them, and there's enough white academics to
uh cause problems.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Who's right and who's wrong here in the way that
this is being handled. I'm not talking about the fact
that the legal I'm talking about the way it's being handled.
Speaker 8 (27:08):
Your take on that, I don't think either of Maara.
I think IS is a police agency and they should
be accorded the respect of a police department, but they're not.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
But a lot of people I think have taken issue
Danny with the fact that Governor Newsom being one the
mayor of Los Angeles just.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
Trying to get in the middle of it, David. He
just wants he just wants exposure. Yeah, I know, they
want to just arrest me, just come get me.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
He's just which is what he wants. That's what he wants,
what he wants. But but, but he and others have
had issues with the fact that the President, I guess,
mobilized and sent sent these people in without actually talking
to the governor.
Speaker 8 (27:47):
And what was the governor going to say, come on in?
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Yeah, I mean, it's a federal operation, right.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
He doesn't have to ask him. I've been around Newsom.
I've been in the room with him in a table
so much like this, And he stood right over here
and he had his shirt his shirt unbuttoned right down
to the middle of his chest with no T shirt.
And there's a bunch of US mayors sitting around with
coaching ties on. I was sitting in between the mayor
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of Charleston, South Carolina, and the mayor of Richmond, Virginia,
and here he comes. He never looked at anybody. He
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I got no use for him. He shouldn't be the governor.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
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he's you know, there's always the talk he's going to
run for president.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
I mean, I'm sure he is.
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beat in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Okay, well, time will tell, but it would be Danny.
Speaker 12 (28:49):
So.
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Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, if they would somehow put Josh Shapiro up, they'll
win the election.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I think.
Speaker 12 (29:04):
So.
Speaker 8 (29:04):
I put big money on it. That's how strong I
think he is.
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We had a textas as Trump is escalating the situation
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into giving him a reason.
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I don't know if I agree with that, but he's
allowed to send the National Guard. Eisenhower did it in
Little Rock, President Kennedy did it in Birmingham, Alabama, and
sixty three. I mean, it's it's done. They don't like
to do it, but it's done.
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stuff Texas, Dave can West Virginia citizens pay people to
(32:27):
register to vote or pay people to vote like Elon
did Is it legal? Tex said? Eisenhower and Kennedy sent
troops so black kids could go to desegregated schools. Trump
is sending troops to protect ice so they can snatch
people and detain them without due process.
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Well, the point is I understand that that's not that's
not news. But the point is the president is the
commander in chief of all the national guard in every state.
If he wants to assume that power, he can do it.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
All right. I want to move on to something else,
and I want to bring up this with you. Has
nothing to do with California or anything like that, or
even Trump for that matter. A few entities Dandy did
stories on this recently. The date was June sixth, nineteen
seventy nine, when a cargo plane carrying around thirteen tons
of pot crashed into what is now West Virginia International
(33:24):
Jaeger Airport. You were around back then.
Speaker 8 (33:27):
I remember that morning. It was I was, you know
where Rusty's Laws. This is Rusty Web. I had my
restaurant in that building. It was the entire length of
the building. It was probably one of the top two
successes I ever had in my life. And we were
busy all the time, and I would get up and
go to work at three o'clock in the morning, and
(33:47):
a lot of times I just take a taxi, you know.
On that morning, I did take a taxi. So the
taxi driver explained to me, you won't believe what happened
that Ah, a plane went off the end of the
runway and potts all down the mountain and it's it's
on fire. The marijuana was on fire. And Hm, there
(34:12):
were two deputies indicted over that, and John Jericho's listening.
He represented one of them. He represented the older Chadwick
his and his son was up there too, and supposedly
their their job was to guard the rider trucks that
(34:33):
was going to haul all of the of the pot
and when the track when the plane crashed, Mark Chadwick
took off from one of the riders. But he finally
was acquitted. Mark Chadwick and the older Chadwick was acquitted
in the main trial, and John Jericho was his lawyer.
I'm not sure if that was the only Acquitdow it
(34:55):
might have been. But on that morning, Uh, Wayne Bridge,
we had a real zealot in the United Assistant United
States turn in. He was a little bit over the top.
Now he wasn't a little bit, he was a lot
over the top. And uh he called Topiro and he said, Tim,
(35:17):
we got to go out to the airport. So Japiro
asked why, I said, well, there's a bunch of pot,
you know, just one offside of the mountains. So Japiro
said to him, it's only marijuana. Wayne. Like that. Well,
I think they both ended up going out there, and
Japiro was one of the prosecutors in the case, so
(35:38):
it got around that Tim told Wayne it's only marijuana, Wayne.
So when they came to trial, they all had buttons
made it's only marijuana, Wayne. So all those defendants and
their lawyers are wearing these buttons, you know, like campaign buttons,
It's only marijuana, Wayne. And the trial was a bit
(35:59):
of a.
Speaker 3 (36:02):
How long was the trial? What was the difference between
when this happened? How long did it take to get
to try do you remember, Oh?
Speaker 8 (36:07):
I want to think it was eighty one, okay, or
maybe eighty it was.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
It was a while, a year or so too, maybe
after at least.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
And.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Those guys not I don't remember too many of them
getting too much time. And the thing was stopped in
the middle because Dennis Knapp was a judge and he
kind of lost control of the court room and he
had either a heart attack or some type of ailment.
(36:38):
So then Judge Copenhager had to come in and take
over the trial in the middle of the trial, and
I think everybody kind of straightened up then, but these
it was like, I mean, these guys were really off
the rails. He's defendants. They would tell there was a
(36:59):
female us I'm gonna a fair name, but because it
doesn't matter, oh she smells like that. They do stuff
like that and just to try to disrupt the trial,
and Nap kind of lost control of it. That's my memory.
Tim de Pier was listening if you want to call in, So.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
What was the story here behind this? I mean, I mean,
how does this happen? I mean, that's It's not like
simple possession here. I mean it was the thirteen tons
of pot. What's the what's the backstory? I mean, who
who was involved? Where was it going? How did it
get here? I mean I remember hearing the story, but
I was a kid. I do remember watching it on television,
the local news talking about it. But you were around there,
(37:41):
what's the story?
Speaker 8 (37:42):
The number here is three or four, three four five
fifty eight fifty eight. Yeah, okay, three four five fifty
eight fifty eight. It was Uh, it was just a
drug run to bring some pot in here because there
was a huge market for it, and the laws weren't
as strict then. It wasn't until eighty six that we
had the UH the Commission that strengthened all the dope
(38:07):
lows and it, Like I said, the trial was a
fiasco and those guys didn't get much time. I think
it was all about the money and they had all
that pot and they wanted to bring in here, put
it in ride their trucks, Stewart somewhere, and then sell it.
(38:27):
And they would have sold it because a lot of
people smoke marijuana at that time. What was did ing
Di Ding Ding Ding?
Speaker 3 (38:36):
By the way, we had a textures that I love.
Listen to Danny. You're not bad either, Dave. I appreciate that. So,
I mean, were there it was there any truth to
the fact that organized crime was involved in this?
Speaker 8 (38:48):
I don't think so. I think, well, these were big
drug runners, and I wouldn't say organized crime in the
way we're thinking of the New York Five family, right.
I mean there was a guy from from from Chile
or South America.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
Was gonna say, I thought there was a time. Okay,
who do we have here?
Speaker 8 (39:09):
Ryan?
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Is this Tim?
Speaker 8 (39:12):
With Tim?
Speaker 12 (39:13):
All? Right?
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Tim Dapiro, You're on with the with Dave and Danny.
Welcome to the show, sir, Thanks for calling in.
Speaker 12 (39:18):
Thanks, how y'all doing doing fine?
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Have you been listening to what Danny's been spending here
and is it all true?
Speaker 12 (39:24):
Well, there's a few more facts it should be okay.
Uh Wayne, Wayne woke me up in the middle of
the night with the call and said that he was
going at the state Police, the Dea Canells Sheriffs, Alston Police.
He said, this's the marijuana. He didn't say port olover.
I thought it was, you know, a little cesster with
maybe a suitcase full.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's what you think of.
Speaker 12 (39:46):
Yeah yeah. And so I mean, who's going to be
flying a big old plane in there? So I thought
it's only marijuana. Wayne, you know you all can take
care of it. When when I woke up to the
news that the DC six had uh crashed and spilled
multiple times of marijuana, I called my buddy Frank Forgale
and said, you know, I'm going to be in trouble
when I get to the office for not going and uh,
(40:08):
he's the one. He ended up representing one of the
guys in the rider truck and he told all the
defense lawyers about it. It's only marijuana, Wayne, And that's
how the buttons got out. And I caught some heavy
grief when I got in there. You know, the old
let me tell you the rest of the story. Yes, yes,
go ahead, let me tell you the rest of the story.
(40:29):
You know. Of course, Bob King was the US attorney
down federal judge. He was, he was all over me
that day and and uh, but I ended up working
the case. And turns out when Copenhager took over, there
was a motion to dismiss the night because we had
destroyed the plane and destroyed other evidence and all this
kind of stuff. And uh, Compenhaier wanted just copnor wanted
(40:51):
every piece that came off that mountain. And poor Wayne
had saved U shark repellent in one of the bags
that the marijuana was in, and he had it hanging
in his office and he had to go testify. And
so about a year after the trial, or six months
after the trial, the d o J and the Farmer
Justice put out a memo that said fellow prosecutes are
(41:14):
not supposed to go to crime scenes because they can
end up being witnesses in the case. So I proceeded
to tell well, Bob King. Now, Judge King, I said, Bob,
you thought I was just being lazy, not getting up
and going in. I said, I just I knew I
could be a witness, and it was just not a
smart thing to do. I was just being you know,
I was just being you know, verty smart about it.
(41:35):
Not really, that's the rest of the story.
Speaker 8 (41:37):
Hey, Tim, you just got a phone call just recently.
Tell us tell us about.
Speaker 12 (41:42):
That, Okay, On June sixth, I got a call and
it said happy June six. I said, what it is,
Happy June six? I said, who is this? He said,
Jerome Jerome lil Cherome Autumn Lil. I said, what do
you do? And he said, well, forty six years ago.
Oh gosh, you're crazy.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
He was one of those ten.
Speaker 12 (42:05):
Times he was. He kind of masterminded this thing.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Well, I mean didn't sound like he had a very
good job of it. To be honest with you, Tom,
he tried to mastermind it. He tried to mastermind it.
I don't know that he did a very good job.
Speaker 12 (42:16):
No, he did do a great job. Well, he blames
he blames one of the guys for messing up the breaks.
He did something on the plane that messed up the breaks,
and otherwise they would have they would have pulled it off,
and they probably would have. But long story short, is
he just he has got religion, seriously, wrote a book
his experience, and has a brother's sick and he does
(42:38):
things to kind of help with that. I forget the
kind of illness he has, but he's, uh, he's been redeemed. Well.
You all, I just appreciate it.
Speaker 8 (42:48):
You all had a meeting that took place in my restaurant,
and all the players, including rosal Lee Earl who worked
for the gazette. I don't know if Patty Vandergriff was there,
but all the player there.
Speaker 12 (43:01):
She loved it.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
She joined, you had a had.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Kind of a reunion in my restaurant, right, That's exactly right.
And Jerome was there.
Speaker 12 (43:11):
They oh yeah, they tried. They tried us more than
we tried. That. It seemed like these lawyers just kind
of who washed in from all over the country who
were just ready. I guess we're just ready for calls
for these guys. So it was. It was quite an
experience I learned. I learned a whole lot in a
one year's time being in the courtroom. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Hey, hey, Tim, we got to take the break here,
but I do want to ask you in thirty seconds
what happened to all the pot?
Speaker 12 (43:41):
Well, we started burning it and it was a bad
It didn't look good because too many cops from up
there burning and laughing and cutting up and getting hungry.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
I had, I had John.
Speaker 12 (43:53):
So they decided to put paraquad on it and bury
it and said, look, it's really dangerous. So they buried
it all and then you know, it was like a
bunch of hobbits for the next few days. Dig it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
I had a former sheriff of Rutherford on the show
and he just was talking about it one day and
he said something to the effective. He said, we had
cops from everywhere. Man, they had guys from Minnesota, you know,
callin us and say can we come down and help
a Tim. I appreciate your insights of calling us up today.
It's good stuff, man, I appreciate you.
Speaker 12 (44:23):
Thank you, y'all. Have a good day.
Speaker 8 (44:25):
Thank you.
Speaker 11 (44:25):
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let me knock out a couple of texts. They're not
related to Pott. Text says how times have changed? Remember
Clinton and Reno having a swat team hold a gun
on a family member hiding the Ilian Gonzales in a
closet trying to avoid avoid deportation. What part of illegal
alien is hard to comprehend. Trump is doing exactly what
millions of US voted for him to do. Look at
the latest poll as numbers have gone up since Holman
(47:58):
and Ice started rounding people.
Speaker 8 (48:00):
I take exception at both of those. But Ili and
Gonzalez was his father was in Cuba, so he had
rights to his son. That's what that was all.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
Yeah, I agree, I think that's right.
Speaker 8 (48:14):
And even though I don't want to see the little
boy go to communism, I mean, that was his dad
and he wanted him back and he should have him.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
Texas many are conveniently ignoring the mask Marxist thugs who
are hurling small boulders off a highway overpass on the
LAPD cars below. Any calls for attempted murder charges for them.
Speaker 8 (48:34):
Well, I'm not in the middle of it. I don't know,
and uh, you know, it's it's always been like that
out there, and uh, I mean kind of like the
Rodney King riots and stuff like that. It's just just
kind of sad. What's said about it is the entire
state of California takes the brunt and now where I am,
(48:55):
which is now our south, that you don't see anything
like that, any any violence or it's it's really nice.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Texas, Dave, let Danny know that the people have a
right to form a militia and stand against government overreach
against the people constitutions still stands.
Speaker 8 (49:10):
Uh, I'm not even gonna touch that.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Tex says, I was in college at WVU at that time.
Going back to the pot plane of seventy nine, there
were always rumors that the pot in town was airplane pot.
Speaker 8 (49:24):
I don't, I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
Well they I mean, you know, the your your buddy there,
mister Tapiro said that that they burned it so well.
Speaker 8 (49:35):
But there was marijuana in the early seventies around here,
really and I can attest to that. And it didn't
come off any airplane. It was bought in here by
people texts.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
Going back to Los Angeles police chief says they will
review video evidence after the situations under control and will
seek charges to the max that the law will allow.
Speaker 8 (49:59):
I don't, I don't think they'll find juris to convict
anybody Texas.
Speaker 3 (50:03):
There's people in Los Angeles are peacefully protesting, just like
the January sixth protesters. And I think that's a little
sarcasm was in January and the text is right, by
the way.
Speaker 8 (50:13):
The January sixth wasn't peaceful, and neither's this.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
Oh, but you can't say that because and I was
alluding to what TJ had posted earlier that somebody in
that I said something about January sixth, what sort of
the whole thing? I said kind of like January sixth,
And they said, well, and then they go and all
these conspiracy theories that that that was mainly done by
Capitol police. And but the thing about it is, and
(50:39):
since in having this argument one simple you know, five
or six words, it never would have happened if Trump
would have said something.
Speaker 8 (50:44):
Watch day five of the January sixth hearing, and it
deals with the vice president, vice President pens and his staff.
If you think it was peaceful, he almost lost his life. Okay,
he was forty feet away from death.
Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (51:00):
If there was a hero that day or he was
one of them.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
And I think it says something about Pence too. I
saw an interview with him a set down interview a
couple of weeks ago, and one of the Sunday news
shows it says something about Pence that he's forgiven everybody.
Speaker 8 (51:13):
Well, that's his style.
Speaker 3 (51:14):
I mean, that's that's what Christians do.
Speaker 8 (51:17):
Yeah, you know, he was running down those steps and
they got security in the basement. Of course, they broke
out their bibles. Everybody started praying, and when he was
they had a car to take him away from the Capitol,
and he refused to get in it, and he said,
I don't want the optic to be that there's what's
going on inside and the vice president who's supposed to
(51:41):
preside over Congress is fleeing the Capitol, so he wouldn't leave.
Speaker 3 (51:46):
I think that's very commendable.
Speaker 8 (51:48):
I think if he's the man.
Speaker 3 (51:50):
All right, final minute or so of the show, actually
final thirty to forty five seconds, what do you think
happens in Los Angeles at this point?
Speaker 12 (51:57):
How?
Speaker 3 (51:57):
I mean, does this further escalator?
Speaker 8 (52:00):
I think as long as Ice is there and they're
arresting people, I think they'll they'll be relistened.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
All right, Darren, It's always a pleasure to have you
on the show, whether we're talking Ice or we're talking pot.
It's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
Thank you, and I'm still amazed that you said that
there was marijuana and Charleston nineteen seventies. Really send me
three for for Charles and Mayor Danny Jones. We got
Wilson to Meadows. Comeing up with the Metro News talk
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Thank you so much, see you later today. Till then,
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