The folks from Habitat for Humanity, Morganne Tenney from the Putnam County Development Authority and Danny Jones.
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Good morning, hope everybody had a great weekend. Coming up
a little bit later on the show, former Charlestre mair
Danny Jones is here now. He dropped a big bomb
on us last week that announcing that his iconic Danny's Barbecue,
Stan and Courrier is going to reopen sometime after Labor Day.
So we'll get a update on that, Plus we'll talk
about some things in the news locally and nationally as well.
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I'm particularly interested in getting Danny's take on the FBI
rating John Bolton's home. That happened on Friday just as
we were about to go on the air. Morgan Tenny,
the executive director of the Putnam County Development Authority, is
going to join us a little bit later on big
announcement made last week about some much needed housing coming
to Putnam County, and I actually drove by the proposed
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property in Hurricane yesterday. Already some clearing of the land
is going on. I'm talking about four hundred or so
new homes coming to the area and again much needed.
We'll talk to Morgan about that. Plus your calls and
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talking about some things going on with Habitat for Humanity.
Jenny Hamilton's with us. Good morning, welcome to the show,
Good morning, Thank you for having me, and doctor Andrew
Blackwood is here as well.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Yeah, good morning.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
One of you is really loud, one of the is
really soft, so I'm going to have to adjust it.
That's all right, It's all good. It's all good. Tell
us what's going on overall. You brought me some information
here about this Master Homeowner program you got going on.
We'll get in that a little bit later on, but overall,
what's going on with habits after you mana just kind
of give us an overview since the last time you
were here.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
Yeah, absolutely so, And believe it or not, we're actually
digging a footer this morning over on Grant Street on
the west side of Charleston, adjacent to a house that
we've finished up earlier this year. Okay, we have that
new construction going on, and we have a recycle house
project that's going on in North Charleston up off of
Judith Drive, a house that had seen some water damage
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from a broken water line but had good bones and
we're still going to make that basically good as new.
And through this kind of cycle of new home construction.
We have our home ownership program and our education program
that's starting again this fall, and that's why Janey's here.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Oh right, Chane.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
Well, we offer this program to the public, but we
have it specifically for our home buyers. Our home buyers
are required to take all nine classes of the Master
Homeowner Program and get a seventy percent accuracy on their
post tests as part of their sweat equity towards owning
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their home.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
What kind of things are on those tests or what
else covered in the class, then we'll talk about the test.
It tell us what's covered in the class.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Okay, Well, each class is designed to introduce different concepts
about how to be prepared to take care of your home,
maintain it, and know the signs when something really expensive
is getting ready to happen, which many people without any
experience with home ownership have had. So for example, we
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do a pre and post test. The pretest is to
see what they know when they walk in the door,
and then we present the material, and then the post
test is basically asking what did you get out of
the class, And it's all focused on the learning objectives
of that particular class. And that way we take those
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metrics and it tells us how well we're doing. Is
the material adequate? Is it? Is it, you know, presented
well enough by whoever's presenting it? You know? And it
shows that post test will show the efficacy of the material.
So that way, when I see things that don't that
aren't adding up, I might inform the presenter or if
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it's myself, tweak the way that the materials presented, and
then also I reword some of the materials so that
it's easier to understand, you know, what the question is.
But but we also keep the classes all updated to
you know, current practices in plumbing and electric bull et cetera.
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So that gives us a good overview of the efficacy
of the classes. And we have a lot of I
keep all those metrics, and we have a lot of
evaluations from all the participants, and those have been very
positive over the years we've been doing this now almost
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ten years or about ten years.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I like that that you use the term and when
you talk about this with Habitat for Humanity here or wherever,
Sweat Equity that they actually have something in it, talk
about how important that is.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
Well, from my perspective, and I've been in nonprofit pretty
much all my career, h Habitat this is this is
really an andy question, Okay, I would like to say
before he says it, if, as from an outsider, any
time I want to spend donations or support a nonprofit,
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I want to know what they're doing with the money
and to me to give somebody a house, which we
do not give them a house.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
One of the biggest misconceptions. It is, and we will
talk about that, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (07:23):
But if a person's never lived in their own home
and then we provide that opportunity for them to have it,
we've missed the boat by not teaching them how to
take care.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, and I think that's a very good point, and
I'll get to you in the second Andrew, But I
think that's a good point too, because a lot of
times with these homes, you're dealing and I'm not saying
this in a derogatory matter, it's factual. You're dealing with
people that maybe if they were renting or whatever. You know,
there's a big difference between I can remember when I
was when I was renting as opposed to being a
homeowner when you just call the landlord and say, hey,
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this is the hot water tanks out or the hvac's
out or whatever. Difference when it's your home.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
It sure is. And that you hit on a key
point there. It's the kind of the responsibility for the property.
And as Jandi said, we do not give houses away.
The home buyers purchased the house from habitat for humanity.
The good deal here is that we finance it at
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zero percent interest, which is huge savings in today's market.
But nearly every one of our homeowners comes to us
from a rental experience. Generationally, their parents were renters their
entire lives, and so this will be the first time
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that they've had experience with home ownership, and that's a
different level of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And it's preventative maintenance.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
True.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You know a lot of times it's not just when
something breaks, like your car. You know, when something breaks,
I mean there are things that have to have.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
To be You change your furnace filters every three months,
and you have to do that to maintain your HVAC system.
And so we mentioned the sweat equity requirement as well.
When somebody enters the program, they each adult who's going
to be living in the house is required to accumulate
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two hundred and fifty hours of sweat equity helping build
their own house or the house of somebody else in
the program. And during that process they actually learn about
how their house is built, and so kind of seeing
under the skin gives you a completely different appreciation for
how to maintain the house. The master Homeowner program is
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modeled after the Master Gardener style of programs things that
homeowners need to know but often don't know, and in
addition to a nine week financial literacy program that's conducted
separately from the Master Homeowner program.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Talking again with Jenny Hamilton and doctor Andrew Black from
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so does Habitat offer any type of help to homeowners
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that may need a few home repairs sagging floors, et cetera,
And it can't afford it to fully pay for them themselves.
That's something you folks are in.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
We are currently not doing a home repair program. We
just don't have the capacity.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
We have one paid construction person, a construction supervisor. Everybody
else is a volunteer and we just got to focus
their efforts on the new construction at this point. Some
other affiliates there are seven affiliated organizations in West Virginia
do home repair programs, but we are not currently All.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Right, I want to talk about what you mentioned at
the beginning of the interview about some things that you're
going to be doing today, digging and things of that nature.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
That's right, get back to that for saying, yeah, so
that we are very fortunate to have a great relationship
with the Charleston Land Reuse Agency. If you are in
the Charleston area, you have seen dilapidated properties, and thankfully
they've made some progress in addressing them. We completed a
house on Grant Street about a year ago, and the
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house next door was just completely overgrown, falling in. Thankfully
it's gone. It's an empty lot now. We were able
to get that lot through the land Reuse Agency and
we're building a new house there starting today.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Good stuff. Where can people learn more about your organization?
They're listening to us right now, they're thinking this is
something I would like to I would like to pursue,
or because I know you always need volunteers and donations.
So where's the best place to get from.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Everything is on our website HFHKP dot org. Search for
Habitat for Humanity and Turleston. You'll find us there. You'll
find us on Facebook, you'll find us on Instagram. If
you can't find us, you know, just shoot us a
letter the old fashioned way. We're on Court Street eight
fifteen here in Charleston and we'll get that information to you.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
All right. Appreciate you both me in here. Thank you
so much, great stuff. Janie Hamilton, doctor Andrew Blackwood from
Habitat for Humanity. Thanks a lot, guys. It is nine
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the habitat for Humanity program that master that Master Homeowner program.
Janey on our way out the door, wanted me to
remind people that that Master Homeowner class is open to
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you need more information about that, you can call three
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open to the public. Former Charleston Mayor Danny Jones coming
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about how this is like the housing show today, while
we're talking about housing, there's about to be a whole
lot more coming to Putnham County more than Tenny is
the executive director of the Putnam County Development Authority, and
she joins us. Now, good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning, Dave roma fellow Putnam Talian, Thank you, thank
you for having me on.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Absolutely big announcement made last week. A lot of housing
coming to Putnam County, particularly in the Hurricane area. Talk
about it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, really exciting. You know, economic development is typically industrial, Dave.
You know we've been doing manufacturing and industrial development since
the early sixties at Puttnam County Development Authority, but a
couple of years ago we recognized that we were really
having this housing shortage and we knew that we needed
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more housing, but we just didn't know how to quantify it.
And then when new corep announced, we started realizing that
some of the Newcore folks that were moving into West
Virginia were bidding on the same house. So we realized
we probably need to quantify this. We decided to do
a housing study. But at the same time, Huntington needed one,
in Charleston new one, and Mason County need one. So
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we actually all pitched in together with Advantage Valley and
we did a ten county housing study to show us
how many houses do we anticipate meeting in this region
by twenty twenty eighth, and we found that the numbers
were staggering. In Putnam County alone, we realized that we
needed four thousand new units by twenty twenty eight to
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meet up with the demand.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Now that's let me let me back up a second.
Four thousand new units are needed in Puttnham County and
Putnam County four thousand.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So this massive announcement of four hundred homes. It is
ten percent. It's like, okay, yay, that's awesome, But at
the same time, it's a drop in the bucket to
what the need is and Davey knew we realized was
that big of a number. It's an economic development issue,
which is why Putnam County Development Authority decided to do
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something about it and be proactive in attracting new homes
to our county. In addition to new business, talk.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
About the property that you mentioned during the press event
last week, specifically talk about the property where these are
going to go.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
So the property is Woodworth Farm. It was an old
dairy farm back in the day. It has been for
sales by a private owner and we helped connect it
off there. What's really exciting is that the development is
actually going to be named Woodworth Farms, which I just
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absolutely love. So they're tying back to that historic use.
It hasn't been used as a farm for many, many years,
but it's exciting and the Woodworth family is actually excited
to see how their family farm is actually going to
be able to impact hundreds of families.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And what kind of homes are we talking about here,
because that's a big question a lot of people ask,
are we talking about, you know, town homes, we're talking
about full on hold? What exactly are we're talking about here?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Great questions. So we are looking at a mixture of
three different unit types. When we started down this venture,
we realized what we needed the most of is a
single family home, but they're the most extensive thing to build.
Labor is expensive, costs of building supplies are expensive, and
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single family homes are just not easy for a developer
to build. But that was one of the things that
we asked when we started reaching out to local builders
and then eventually national builders, can you build single family
homes in a large quantity quickly? And so this about
four hundred units, right or more, depending on how this goes,
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three different product types. Half are going to be single
family homes. The other half are going to be town
homes as well as what we're calling single story living villas.
So they may only be one story or they may
be two stories, but all of the main level is living,
so owners suite on the main floor, and that's to
accommodate empty nesters. We've realized that a lot of folks
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are in a home bigger than what's they need. Their
kids are out of the house, but they don't have
anywhere to go, and that's kind of putting a stop
on the housing market right now.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
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talk about because there's so many different stories out there, Morgan,
as you know, you get the same you know the
news releases, you're in the know, you're involved in the
stuff that I get. We keep talking about around the
state of West Virginia about the population drain, but Putnam
County is an area that we are simply not seeing.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That that's true. We're one of the few growing counties
in West Virginia, primarily in relation to the Northern Panhandle
and Eastern Panhandle, but Putnam County has continued to see growth,
and you know, there's a lot of an industry that
is expanding around us than even in Putnam County. And
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we need more people. We need more people to stay
in West Virginia. But that's not going to do it either, Dave.
We need more people to move into West Virginia as
well in order to fill these gaps. And one thing
I don't think me and you have talked about on
the air before is our labor participation rate in West Virginia.
Not only do we not have enough people, but we
don't have enough people that are working. So having things
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like Toyota's announcement with a childcare center is huge for
our area and hopes that that will allow more people
to work. And then it's kind of holistic. You know,
you have more people that can work, more companies expand
they need more people. Those people need housing, so it's
kind of full circle.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, And when you talk about the labor participation rate,
what you're talking about primarily is people that are able
bodied and of the of the of the quote unquote
working age. So we don't want people to think, well,
West Virginia is the oldest state in the nation obviously
we're going to have a lower workforce participation. That goes
without saying, but we're talking about people in many cases
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that are able to work. They are of the correct
age to work. I mean, they're still within in those
that timeframe. That's that's what we're talking about here. We
got I know you and I can't solve it, okay,
but we have an issue there, Morgan. We really do.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, we do, I mean year right, and we're talking
about people that are sixteen years in older. We're discounting
children and elderly. But we don't have enough people working,
and that's that's one of the problems. But in Putnam County,
we certainly haven't seen an issue with population growth, and
a large reason for that is our school system. We
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have consistently ranked one of the top school systems in
the state of West Virginia, top English scores, top masts.
And what we also learned from this housing study, Dave,
is that more than seventy percent of Putnam County residents
don't work in Putnam County. So we know that people
want to live here even if they don't work here.
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And so just to tell everyone, we've also been working
extremely closely with the Putnam County Board of Education. Before
we even started down this road of more housing, met
with Superintendent Hudson instead, mister Hudband, can we handle more
students because the last thing I want to do is
put in a whole bunch more housing or encourage more
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housing in our school system. Can't handle it. And they've
been a partner with this on this project for the
last year and a half to ensure that we can
grow thoughtfully.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Indeed, talking to Morgan Tenty again, the executive director of
the Putnam County Development Authority more, we had a text
to the show somebody asking about property being taken by
emminent domain. That is not the case, right, Oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So this was the private owner who is selling directly
to a developer Stonewall Capital. And you know a lot
of times folks think that the county is coming in
and buying property. That's not the case. We are more
often the link between a private property owner and a
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private business or developer. Sometimes we do own property, but
that is not the situation at all with this piece
of property.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
What's our time frame here, Morgan, approximately, I know you're
not actually out there with a hard hat and so
maybe you are, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't put it
past you. I wouldn't put it past you. But but
what what is our time frame like here just a ballpark?
When these houses may be, when we may be you know,
I mentioned earlier my wife and I actually drove by
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the property yesterday and there was some work going on
at some people doing some you know, brush work and
things of that nature. But when can we start seeing
actual development going on and when can we expect that
these homes will be ready for the first residents to
move in.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
We are going to start development this ball. So the
horizontal development is taking place with Stonewall Capital that's who
we announced with earlier this year, and then as soon
as they get infrastructure laid, and they'll do it in phases.
Ward Communities is a vertical builder, and they'll come in
and they'll start building. Now. They plan to put up
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a model home first and they will have a sales
office in it so folks will actually be able to
walk in and see all of their options. And then
We're Communities is just going to hit the ball rolling,
so we will definitely have homes available in twenty twenty six,
weather depending on development through all of that. But I
do want to mention, Dave, folks can actually go ahead
(25:49):
on Ward Communities website and see rendering schematics. They have
over ten floor plans they're bringing to West Virginia, and
you can go ahead and sign up on a VIP list,
find out when they're going to start pre sales, or
any of the information you want to know about the development.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
All right, we had another text here You're pretty popular
day about the traffic situation Hurricane. How are the roads
going to be able to handle all this? I mean,
and people hear me say this all the time. You'll
never I mean, I get frustrated being in traffic to you,
but there's areas of West Virginia, Morgan that would kill
to have a traffic problem. Okay, so the question was
about how a hurricanes roads be able to handle all this.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
We made it thirteen minutes talking together, Dave, without the
word traffic. So I'm really impressed. So I will share
that Stonewall Capital right out of the gate, actually implemented
a traffic study, spent tens of thousands of dollars on it,
and immediately engaged with the Department of Highways because that
is a public road through there, so we're already looking
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at that and what traffic modifications might need to happen,
such as an additional turning lane traffic signal. Nothing's been
completely decided yet. But also keep in mind that this
is going to be built in phases, so the traffic
modifications may be taking place over the next year or two. Additionally,
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we do have the Kalidon Interchange opening up soon fall
of twenty twenty six, so we're hoping that that will
alleviate some of it as well.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
All Right, before we let you go, I got to
ask you this because there's been a some online chatter
about I want to give you a chance to address
that those magical two words that are being thrown about
in West Virginia a lot, and that's data centers. Is
there is there any talk of anything like that in
Putnam County that you can speak to speak.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Of data centers are looking all over the state of
West Virginia. I'm sure every county development authority in West
Virginia could probably say that they've received some type of correspondence,
especially with the Governor's microgrid bill opening us up for
data centers, but nothing to report at this time.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, Morgan, I appreciate you as always for taking
time out a schedule to be here.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Thanks a lot, absolutely, thank you, Dave. We appreciate it.
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Got some text to get you real quick, and we're
going to get to Danny Jones.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
A man with a dream for people.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yeah, you are hold on a second, tex says. Trump
says he's finding crime and illegals. So when is he
going to National Guard to mor Lago? So since we
know he has illegals working for him and FBI is
still searching homes of people that was in his cabinet,
that's crooked. Bolton is the latest as a Texter. Texas says,
(31:56):
West Virginia is experienced in when California went through years
ago farmland getting turned into tracked homes. Tex says, it's
Monday and another day for Trump's fascism. What's he doing
today threatening revocation of ABC and NBC's broadcast licenses because
they report negative stories about him? Tell me, how is
this not fascism? I bet if he was doing this
to WVRC media, you all would be calling him a fascist.
(32:17):
That does sound like fascism. I'm gonna go ahead and
say it. It does. Texas. The problem I've heard with
empty nesters saying in the house too big for them
is that they either own the house, or have a
ridiculously low interest rate, or just don't want to move.
How do you convince a person to leave no payment
or low interest payment and take on a high interest
mortgage or move where they don't want to A very
good point.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
The whole talk about revocational it's just bluster. Yeah, it
doesn't mean anything. It's not fascism, it's nothing. It's just Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It's just Trump being Trump, and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Hey, Danny, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
I'm fine, Thank you, well, thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
For being here. What's the latest with the restaurant?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Man?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
You got us all excited last week?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Well, I'm going to open the fourth of September. I'm leaving.
You're not gonna be here on Monday, are you?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
No?
Speaker 7 (33:06):
I'm leaving on Friday, going out west for my last weekend.
I'll be back on Monday and then we'll open on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
And this is one week for this Thursday, a.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Week from this Thursday, we'll open back up, okay, and
then what are your hours going to be? Right now?
And BJA and I are still talking about this right now,
eleven to six thirty Monday through Friday. I don't know
about Sunday. Sunday people usually want to eat breakfast. Yeah,
(33:40):
you know, so do you ever dabble? And I know
you've cooked everything and your but you ever ever done
much better? Started?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Right?
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I was a line cook. I mean back in the
back in the bootleg days in the sixties. People come
in at three four o'clock in the morning and they
get edge steak and garlic toast and home fries.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
And that sounds good. Staking eggs is one of my all.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Time favorite means yeah, and now I was I got
that three things on. It's on my Facebook page and
where I gave that speech, right, and a guy showed
some confidence in me. And I was a salad boy
and he said, you move over here, you're going to
(34:27):
be the main line cook. He took the salads and
you had a browler man. So I was the main guy.
And I was seventeen years old. And at seventeen this
this is going to come out in the book. I mean,
it was, you know, Saturday night, we get off at
six three, four o'clock in the morning, we start drinking
(34:48):
and we have drink a bottle of whiskey before we leave,
and then we'd go down the course street and buy
another bottle. And that was my lifestyle. Right now, I
go on to sleep all day.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah, and now you just sleep all day. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I know you keep up
with what's going on the news. Would you think when
you saw this raid on John Bolton's house on Friday.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
I think that I hope he's done something wrong for
that to be violated like that.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
It just seems to me if if what they're looking into,
which seems to be his handling or mishandling of documents,
I mean, at what point do people in Washington realize
you can't put you can't have classified documents in your home.
I mean, at what point?
Speaker 7 (35:35):
What if he didn't John? I mean, what if?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
What if? I know, But I'm just saying. I'm just
saying this. And look, nobody's ever going to say that
Trump is not mean he is running on retribution. He
said that on the numerous cases.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
I'm your retribution. But I'm not even talking about that.
I'm talking about John Bolton. Maybe may if he didn't
do anything wrong, he's had his rights violated. First thing,
you know, what he did for this country is they
took his security away, and he did that in the
(36:10):
name of this country, in the name of this president.
And uh, I think it's sad, but I hope, I mean,
I don't know what to think about it. I was
just watching Bernie Sanders on TV here. You know, he
is totally fearless. He is fearless. He's not afraid of
anything or anybody. He'll say anything, and it doesn't mean
(36:36):
he's right, but he's He certainly is one of the
most recognized people on the planet.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
And he packed him in and wheeling Charleston and a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
I kind of admire somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I mean, look, you can you cannot be any more
different than I am politically, as are you with Bernie Sanders. Sure,
but but I respect the guy. I respect the guy
for being for coming out and speaking like and going
into an area, especially southern West Virginia, where he is
not popular. And although he did, you know, he did
win West Virginia. But I mean, I'll give him respect.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
And he's he's also has not he is is. He's
not afraid to He's not afraid to go on Fox.
He's been on with Brett Bear, and Brett Bear keeps
him over, keeps him longer, and he keeps other people.
He's to had two town halls on Fox, and he
(37:39):
handles him perfectly. And all the next morning Fox and
Fox and Fiends they they they talk about him in
the nicest, the kindest way, and because he has guts.
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news broke last week Dandy about Man and Meal here
(38:14):
in Charleston. Of course, they were directly across the street
from US. For a while they had a distribution center
across the street, and there were some issues with the
with the school and uh and they eventually moved out
and they're struggling right now. For one, I understand what's
your take on Man and Meal.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
I happen to know because I'm in the game, that
they have reduced of this one vendor I deal with,
they have reduced their purchasing by eighty eighty percent eighty
five percent. Now I don't know if they've done that
with all vendors, the switch vendors, but they're not buying
(38:52):
as much as they used to have. That's all I
know about Man and mel.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Okay, what about your experience when you were mayor and
dealing with the folks at Man.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
And mel Man and Meal. Well, see, I don't want
to sound cruel, but our problem with homeless started with
the minimal nineteen seventy four. That's when it really that's
when it really got bad. And uh way way, when
you feed people, they will come and they were. And
(39:21):
plus back then, you had you had places for poor
people to stay. Now you don't, I mean you had people.
I mean I lived in the Holly for four years.
Four years I lived in that place, a lot of people.
Frankie had one person that he paid eight dollars a month,
(39:43):
you know, because he would help people. You don't have
any of that.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
But I mean, I understand what you were saying. But
the humanitarian thing would would would be if people need help,
that you help them. Sure, but also know, because of
where we are located, I know what we dealt with
on the regular basis when they were across the street.
I'm not trying to be mean, but I know here
at eleven eleven what we dealt with when they were
across the street from my well.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
When Larry Rose mother died and I watched they were
chasing that house and the Catholic Church stepped in and
bought it. Yeah, And it's what happens to us and
Charleston is people send from other counties, We'll just send
(40:26):
them to Charleston. Just send them to Charleston. That's what
we dealt with.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Knock out some text here, Texas. You know how you
get lazy, able bodied, self entitled people off their butts
and forced to fund themselves, end welfare and EBT, bring
back commodities. Funny how that worked for decades before stamps
came along.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Huh, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Well, we were talking earlier when I was talking to
Morgan Tiny about West Virginia's workforce participation and of able
bodied people. We have the lowest workforce participation in America.
We're talking about folks sixteen to early sixties or whatever,
people that can work but choose not to. We have
the lowest in the nation. That's what we were talking about.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
Okay. And there's a lot of mental illness out there,
and that's what I deal with.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
One.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
I'm and there if you when you go out, I
get up in the middle of the night, I go
to my restaurant and I go to work, and because
I can't sleep, this town lights up at two thirty
in the morning. You got these guys riding these little
tiny bicycles and uh, they're checking all the doors.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
You know.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
They got in my plot. They broke in my place.
In your restaurant, stole five thousand dollars worth of caught
car parks for that nomad I had to go.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Was this recent mm year ago? Okay, and this was
in your restaurant.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Yeah, they got in. I kept the stuff in my restaurant.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Okay, you may not want to do that going forward.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Uh, Okay, A fearless socialist talking about Bernie that took
his honeymoon in the Soviet Union and said that the
breadlines are a good thing. That's a good thing. Oh yeah, burnout.
It's a real patriot.
Speaker 7 (42:13):
I think I'm not gonna call a person unpatriotic because
I don't agree with these views. My main objection to
Bernie is I don't think he's pro Israel enough. But
that's another disagreement that reasonable people can have. Well, and
you said he's never hidden who he was or who
(42:34):
he is. He's always been a socialist. He was elected
as a socialist mayor of Burlington, Vermont.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
And again, whether I agree with people or not, I'm
like you. I have respect for people who are who
they are, and he's fearless that I have respect for that,
Tex says Dave. Thanks for having Mayor Danny on the
program today. He was a strong leader and as a historian,
please keep having him on your program. Thank you. We'll
(43:01):
talk about the book. You brought a book to me,
and also you brought me some salts.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
Yeah, barbecue sar.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
All right, So we'll talk about that coming up a
little bit later on. And I want to talk about
this book that you have with us as well, and
I got a lot of things I want to talk
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Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, he gives a voice. He gives a voice to
people that think like he does. He there's people, there's
people that that's subscribed his philosophy that have texted this
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Speaker 5 (46:17):
Texas asked Danny if he's heard the Game of Thrones audiobook.
I'm almost done and it's excellent.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
I've never watched I don't know anything about the Game
of Thrones.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
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Tell me about this book. You're you're walking in here
carrying a book. In addition to my barbecue saw so well,
you watched in carrying a book here.
Speaker 7 (46:43):
A book that I was one of the top five
books I've ever read my life is a book called
in Broad Daylight. And for those who used to listen
to my show, I had Harry MacLean on. I got
overwhelmed with Skidmore, Missouri and the killing out there that
happened in nineteen eighty one, and I went out there
(47:05):
for the forty three union, and.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
I remember listening, you know, to you talking about it crazy?
What what give us the synopsis of the story for
those that may may not have been listening.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
The whole town saw it, and no one saw a thing.
And what he bullied the town for twenty years?
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Who's he?
Speaker 7 (47:22):
Uh? Ken Rex McElroy Okay, and he was he was,
he was nuts And finally they killed him, they shot him.
And what as you dig in and you listen, you listen,
everybody said, you know, the FBI, everybody investigated, all the
people that would that helped him, wouldn't help the town
(47:45):
when he was bullying the town. The sheriff was afraid
of him. So they went in and no one saw
a thing. Oh I was on the ground. I was.
They all saw it. They egged him on kill the
mL for that's what. That's what.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
What was it, Danny about this story that got you
interested in it? Where did you first hear.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
About sixty minutes sixty minutes piece? Yeah, back back in
eighty two, and just went crazy over it. And then
I got the following Harry, and read the book and
read it again. And then they have a series on
called No One Saw a Thing, which is a farce
(48:26):
or a series. But then Harry and I got to
be friends, and he called me last night.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
You were telling me about that. He just randomly picked
up the phone and called you.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
He called me and he says, and he's read my book.
I sent him a copy of it, and then I'm uncle,
say what he said?
Speaker 5 (48:42):
Okay, but.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
He offered to, you know, to say something in the book.
You know, but it's already gone to it's already gone
to the printer.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
Okay, so when is this book going to be out?
Because I'd like to have a copy of it too.
I like to see it.
Speaker 7 (48:58):
I think November first, but it might be earlier. Okay,
you know it's it's a Charleston book. I mean, it's
not something somebody and my friends in California might like it.
You know, but I talk about a lot of stuff.
I mean a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
He said, you can't see this on the radio. He says,
with a smirk on his face. I talk about a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 7 (49:24):
I mean, you just can't. There was trying to think
of a story I could tell.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Don't get me fired.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
No, I wouldn't. There was a there was a guy
that in August is seventy four. I was at the Danuboon.
I knew the guy. I drank with him. He was
there at a convention and we I thought we were friendly,
(49:56):
and he took the phone he was answering and Messa Rensi.
I called me when I took the phone away, then
he came and he jumped on me about the phone.
Now my strategy there was to get him outside, calm
him down. Well I've made one big mistake. I turned
my back on him and he jumped me from behind
(50:19):
and I got on top of him and I held
him in. But I couldn't do anything because my left
shoulder has given me trouble ever since. I've had three
operations on it, and I've got I've got a reverse
shoulder replacement, which is now it's pretty it's pretty normal.
(50:44):
But that's some of the stuff. Well that introduced me
to violence in the game. But there was a guy
then that said, you know, and people that would know this.
Up and Wheeling, there was a guy and they said,
I can get this guy to come down here and
(51:05):
he won't kill him, but he'll break his arm. Make
sure he can't use his arm. Now, there's some older
people out there that know exactly who I'm talking about.
And Frankie Velstry told me, he said, listen to me,
you're going to go places. Don't buy into that, now,
I said, Frankie has said they do it for nothing.
That's because if they want to own you, you don't.
(51:28):
You don't. You don't engage in activity like that.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
So all right, Danny, we got to wrap it up now.
We won't be doing a show next Monday for the holiday.
But I do want to maybe have you and I
want to meet this BJ guy. I'll bring him in
maybe maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah, of next week. Well,
we're having him on the show, all right. He's got
some big shoes to fill down there, but you're going
to be right there with him, right yeah, all right?
(51:51):
So when are you coming back from California?
Speaker 7 (51:53):
I mean, I'll just be gone three days and then
we open the rest of on Thursday, and then I'll
be I'll be back the next Monday, if you'll have.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
All right, So, but you'll be available next Tuesday or Wednesday.
What you're saying to come on Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (52:05):
I'll be back Monday night.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Okay, So let's plan on maybe Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
How's that Wednesday will be fun?
Speaker 5 (52:10):
All right? You're gonna bring this Bjay guy. I want
to meet this guy, all right, all right, we'll be
there for'mer Charleston mayor Danny Jones always a pleasure. Again,
we'll have Danny back on the show with us. Come
it up maybe next a week from this Wednesday. Gotta go,
Thank you so much. TJ. Meadows will be up to
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Stan and Courrier is going to reopen sometime after Labor Day.
So we'll get a update on that, Plus we'll talk
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rating John Bolton's home. That happened on Friday just as
we were about to go on the air. Morgan Tenny,
the executive director of the Putnam County Development Authority, is
going to join us a little bit later on big
announcement made last week about some much needed housing coming
to Putnam County, and I actually drove by the proposed
(02:25):
property in Hurricane yesterday. Already some clearing of the land
is going on. I'm talking about four hundred or so
new homes coming to the area and again much needed.
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talking about some things going on with Habitat for Humanity.
Jenny Hamilton's with us. Good morning, welcome to the show,
Good morning, Thank you for having me, and doctor Andrew
Blackwood is here as well.
Speaker 8 (02:55):
Yeah, good morning.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
One of you is really loud, one of the is
really soft, so I'm going to have to adjust it.
That's all right, It's all good. It's all good. Tell
us what's going on overall. You brought me some information
here about this Master Homeowner program you got going on.
We'll get in that a little bit later on, but overall,
what's going on with habits after you mana just kind
of give us an overview since the last time you
were here.
Speaker 8 (03:14):
Yeah, absolutely so, And believe it or not, we're actually
digging a footer this morning over on Grant Street on
the west side of Charleston, adjacent to a house that
we've finished up earlier this year. Okay, we have that
new construction going on, and we have a recycle house
project that's going on in North Charleston up off of
Judith Drive, a house that had seen some water damage
(03:38):
from a broken water line but had good bones and
we're still going to make that basically good as new.
And through this kind of cycle of new home construction.
We have our home ownership program and our education program
that's starting again this fall, and that's why Janey's here.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Oh right, Chane.
Speaker 9 (04:01):
Well, we offer this program to the public, but we
have it specifically for our home buyers. Our home buyers
are required to take all nine classes of the Master
Homeowner Program and get a seventy percent accuracy on their
post tests as part of their sweat equity towards owning
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their home.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
What kind of things are on those tests or what
else covered in the class, then we'll talk about the test.
It tell us what's covered in the class.
Speaker 9 (04:33):
Okay, Well, each class is designed to introduce different concepts
about how to be prepared to take care of your home,
maintain it, and know the signs when something really expensive
is getting ready to happen, which many people without any
experience with home ownership have had. So for example, we
(05:00):
do a pre and post test. The pretest is to
see what they know when they walk in the door,
and then we present the material, and then the post
test is basically asking what did you get out of
the class, And it's all focused on the learning objectives
of that particular class. And that way we take those
(05:22):
metrics and it tells us how well we're doing. Is
the material adequate? Is it? Is it, you know, presented
well enough by whoever's presenting it? You know? And it
shows that post test will show the efficacy of the material.
So that way, when I see things that don't that
aren't adding up, I might inform the presenter or if
(05:46):
it's myself, tweak the way that the materials presented, and
then also I reword some of the materials so that
it's easier to understand, you know, what the question is.
But but we also keep the classes all updated to
you know, current practices in plumbing and electric bull et cetera.
(06:11):
So that gives us a good overview of the efficacy
of the classes. And we have a lot of I
keep all those metrics, and we have a lot of
evaluations from all the participants, and those have been very
positive over the years we've been doing this now almost
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ten years or about ten years.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
I like that that you use the term and when
you talk about this with Habitat for Humanity here or wherever,
Sweat Equity that they actually have something in it, talk
about how important that is.
Speaker 9 (06:47):
Well, from my perspective, and I've been in nonprofit pretty
much all my career, h Habitat this is this is
really an andy question, Okay, I would like to say
before he says it, if, as from an outsider, any
time I want to spend donations or support a nonprofit,
(07:10):
I want to know what they're doing with the money
and to me to give somebody a house, which we
do not give them a house.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
One of the biggest misconceptions. It is, and we will
talk about that, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (07:23):
But if a person's never lived in their own home
and then we provide that opportunity for them to have it,
we've missed the boat by not teaching them how to
take care.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, and I think that's a very good point, and
I'll get to you in the second Andrew, But I
think that's a good point too, because a lot of
times with these homes, you're dealing and I'm not saying
this in a derogatory matter, it's factual. You're dealing with
people that maybe if they were renting or whatever. You know,
there's a big difference between I can remember when I
was when I was renting as opposed to being a
homeowner when you just call the landlord and say, hey,
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this is the hot water tanks out or the hvac's
out or whatever. Difference when it's your home.
Speaker 8 (08:01):
It sure is. And that you hit on a key
point there. It's the kind of the responsibility for the property.
And as Jandi said, we do not give houses away.
The home buyers purchased the house from habitat for humanity.
The good deal here is that we finance it at
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zero percent interest, which is huge savings in today's market.
But nearly every one of our homeowners comes to us
from a rental experience. Generationally, their parents were renters their
entire lives, and so this will be the first time
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that they've had experience with home ownership, and that's a
different level of responsibility.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
And it's preventative maintenance.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
True.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
You know a lot of times it's not just when
something breaks, like your car. You know, when something breaks,
I mean there are things that have to have.
Speaker 8 (08:56):
To be You change your furnace filters every three months,
and you have to do that to maintain your HVAC system.
And so we mentioned the sweat equity requirement as well.
When somebody enters the program, they each adult who's going
to be living in the house is required to accumulate
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two hundred and fifty hours of sweat equity helping build
their own house or the house of somebody else in
the program. And during that process they actually learn about
how their house is built, and so kind of seeing
under the skin gives you a completely different appreciation for
how to maintain the house. The master Homeowner program is
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modeled after the Master Gardener style of programs things that
homeowners need to know but often don't know, and in
addition to a nine week financial literacy program that's conducted
separately from the Master Homeowner program.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Talking again with Jenny Hamilton and doctor Andrew Black from
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so does Habitat offer any type of help to homeowners
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that may need a few home repairs sagging floors, et cetera,
And it can't afford it to fully pay for them themselves.
That's something you folks are in.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
We are currently not doing a home repair program. We
just don't have the capacity.
Speaker 10 (10:32):
You know.
Speaker 8 (10:32):
We have one paid construction person, a construction supervisor. Everybody
else is a volunteer and we just got to focus
their efforts on the new construction at this point. Some
other affiliates there are seven affiliated organizations in West Virginia
do home repair programs, but we are not currently All.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Right, I want to talk about what you mentioned at
the beginning of the interview about some things that you're
going to be doing today, digging and things of that nature.
Speaker 8 (11:01):
That's right, get back to that for saying, yeah, so
that we are very fortunate to have a great relationship
with the Charleston Land Reuse Agency. If you are in
the Charleston area, you have seen dilapidated properties, and thankfully
they've made some progress in addressing them. We completed a
house on Grant Street about a year ago, and the
(11:21):
house next door was just completely overgrown, falling in. Thankfully
it's gone. It's an empty lot now. We were able
to get that lot through the land Reuse Agency and
we're building a new house there starting today.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Good stuff. Where can people learn more about your organization?
They're listening to us right now, they're thinking this is
something I would like to I would like to pursue,
or because I know you always need volunteers and donations.
So where's the best place to get from.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Everything is on our website HFHKP dot org. Search for
Habitat for Humanity and Turleston. You'll find us there. You'll
find us on Facebook, you'll find us on Instagram. If
you can't find us, you know, just shoot us a
letter the old fashioned way. We're on Court Street eight
fifteen here in Charleston and we'll get that information to you.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
All right. Appreciate you both me in here. Thank you
so much, great stuff. Janie Hamilton, doctor Andrew Blackwood from
Habitat for Humanity. Thanks a lot, guys. It is nine
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about how this is like the housing show today, while
we're talking about housing, there's about to be a whole
lot more coming to Putnham County more than Tenny is
the executive director of the Putnam County Development Authority, and
she joins us. Now, good morning, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Good morning, Dave roma fellow Putnam Talian, Thank you, thank
you for having me on.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Absolutely big announcement made last week. A lot of housing
coming to Putnam County, particularly in the Hurricane area. Talk
about it.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Yeah, really exciting. You know, economic development is typically industrial, Dave.
You know we've been doing manufacturing and industrial development since
the early sixties at Puttnam County Development Authority, but a
couple of years ago we recognized that we were really
having this housing shortage and we knew that we needed
(16:25):
more housing, but we just didn't know how to quantify it.
And then when new corep announced, we started realizing that
some of the Newcore folks that were moving into West
Virginia were bidding on the same house. So we realized
we probably need to quantify this. We decided to do
a housing study. But at the same time, Huntington needed one,
in Charleston new one, and Mason County need one. So
(16:47):
we actually all pitched in together with Advantage Valley and
we did a ten county housing study to show us
how many houses do we anticipate meeting in this region
by twenty twenty eighth, and we found that the numbers
were staggering. In Putnam County alone, we realized that we
needed four thousand new units by twenty twenty eight to
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meet up with the demand.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Now that's let me let me back up a second.
Four thousand new units are needed in Puttnham County and
Putnam County four thousand.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
So this massive announcement of four hundred homes. It is
ten percent. It's like, okay, yay, that's awesome, But at
the same time, it's a drop in the bucket to
what the need is and Davey knew we realized was
that big of a number. It's an economic development issue,
which is why Putnam County Development Authority decided to do
(17:42):
something about it and be proactive in attracting new homes
to our county. In addition to new business, talk.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
About the property that you mentioned during the press event
last week, specifically talk about the property where these are
going to go.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
So the property is Woodworth Farm. It was an old
dairy farm back in the day. It has been for
sales by a private owner and we helped connect it
off there. What's really exciting is that the development is
actually going to be named Woodworth Farms, which I just
(18:20):
absolutely love. So they're tying back to that historic use.
It hasn't been used as a farm for many, many years,
but it's exciting and the Woodworth family is actually excited
to see how their family farm is actually going to
be able to impact hundreds of families.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
And what kind of homes are we talking about here,
because that's a big question a lot of people ask,
are we talking about, you know, town homes, we're talking
about full on hold? What exactly are we're talking about here?
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Great questions. So we are looking at a mixture of
three different unit types. When we started down this venture,
we realized what we needed the most of is a
single family home, but they're the most extensive thing to build.
Labor is expensive, costs of building supplies are expensive, and
(19:11):
single family homes are just not easy for a developer
to build. But that was one of the things that
we asked when we started reaching out to local builders
and then eventually national builders, can you build single family
homes in a large quantity quickly? And so this about
four hundred units, right or more, depending on how this goes,
(19:34):
three different product types. Half are going to be single
family homes. The other half are going to be town
homes as well as what we're calling single story living villas.
So they may only be one story or they may
be two stories, but all of the main level is living,
so owners suite on the main floor, and that's to
accommodate empty nesters. We've realized that a lot of folks
(19:58):
are in a home bigger than what's they need. Their
kids are out of the house, but they don't have
anywhere to go, and that's kind of putting a stop
on the housing market right now.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
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talk about because there's so many different stories out there, Morgan,
as you know, you get the same you know the
news releases, you're in the know, you're involved in the
stuff that I get. We keep talking about around the
state of West Virginia about the population drain, but Putnam
County is an area that we are simply not seeing.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
That that's true. We're one of the few growing counties
in West Virginia, primarily in relation to the Northern Panhandle
and Eastern Panhandle, but Putnam County has continued to see growth,
and you know, there's a lot of an industry that
is expanding around us than even in Putnam County. And
(21:15):
we need more people. We need more people to stay
in West Virginia. But that's not going to do it either, Dave.
We need more people to move into West Virginia as
well in order to fill these gaps. And one thing
I don't think me and you have talked about on
the air before is our labor participation rate in West Virginia.
Not only do we not have enough people, but we
don't have enough people that are working. So having things
(21:38):
like Toyota's announcement with a childcare center is huge for
our area and hopes that that will allow more people
to work. And then it's kind of holistic. You know,
you have more people that can work, more companies expand
they need more people. Those people need housing, so it's
kind of full circle.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Yeah, And when you talk about the labor participation rate,
what you're talking about primarily is people that are able
bodied and of the of the of the quote unquote
working age. So we don't want people to think, well,
West Virginia is the oldest state in the nation obviously
we're going to have a lower workforce participation. That goes
without saying, but we're talking about people in many cases
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that are able to work. They are of the correct
age to work. I mean, they're still within in those
that timeframe. That's that's what we're talking about here. We
got I know you and I can't solve it, okay,
but we have an issue there, Morgan. We really do.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, we do, I mean year right, and we're talking
about people that are sixteen years in older. We're discounting
children and elderly. But we don't have enough people working,
and that's that's one of the problems. But in Putnam County,
we certainly haven't seen an issue with population growth, and
a large reason for that is our school system. We
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have consistently ranked one of the top school systems in
the state of West Virginia, top English scores, top masts.
And what we also learned from this housing study, Dave,
is that more than seventy percent of Putnam County residents
don't work in Putnam County. So we know that people
want to live here even if they don't work here.
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And so just to tell everyone, we've also been working
extremely closely with the Putnam County Board of Education. Before
we even started down this road of more housing, met
with Superintendent Hudson instead, mister Hudband, can we handle more
students because the last thing I want to do is
put in a whole bunch more housing or encourage more
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housing in our school system. Can't handle it. And they've
been a partner with this on this project for the
last year and a half to ensure that we can
grow thoughtfully.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Indeed, talking to Morgan Tenty again, the executive director of
the Putnam County Development Authority more, we had a text
to the show somebody asking about property being taken by
emminent domain. That is not the case, right, Oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 9 (23:58):
No.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
So this was the private owner who is selling directly
to a developer Stonewall Capital. And you know a lot
of times folks think that the county is coming in
and buying property. That's not the case. We are more
often the link between a private property owner and a
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private business or developer. Sometimes we do own property, but
that is not the situation at all with this piece
of property.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
What's our time frame here, Morgan, approximately, I know you're
not actually out there with a hard hat and so
maybe you are, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't put it
past you. I wouldn't put it past you. But but
what what is our time frame like here just a ballpark?
When these houses may be, when we may be you know,
I mentioned earlier my wife and I actually drove by
(24:49):
the property yesterday and there was some work going on
at some people doing some you know, brush work and
things of that nature. But when can we start seeing
actual development going on and when can we expect that
these homes will be ready for the first residents to
move in.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
We are going to start development this ball. So the
horizontal development is taking place with Stonewall Capital that's who
we announced with earlier this year, and then as soon
as they get infrastructure laid, and they'll do it in phases.
Ward Communities is a vertical builder, and they'll come in
and they'll start building. Now. They plan to put up
(25:26):
a model home first and they will have a sales
office in it so folks will actually be able to
walk in and see all of their options. And then
We're Communities is just going to hit the ball rolling,
so we will definitely have homes available in twenty twenty six,
weather depending on development through all of that. But I
do want to mention, Dave, folks can actually go ahead
(25:49):
on Ward Communities website and see rendering schematics. They have
over ten floor plans they're bringing to West Virginia, and
you can go ahead and sign up on a VIP list,
find out when they're going to start pre sales, or
any of the information you want to know about the development.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
All right, we had another text here You're pretty popular
day about the traffic situation Hurricane. How are the roads
going to be able to handle all this? I mean,
and people hear me say this all the time. You'll
never I mean, I get frustrated being in traffic to you,
but there's areas of West Virginia, Morgan that would kill
to have a traffic problem. Okay, so the question was
about how a hurricanes roads be able to handle all this.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
We made it thirteen minutes talking together, Dave, without the
word traffic. So I'm really impressed. So I will share
that Stonewall Capital right out of the gate, actually implemented
a traffic study, spent tens of thousands of dollars on it,
and immediately engaged with the Department of Highways because that
is a public road through there, so we're already looking
(26:53):
at that and what traffic modifications might need to happen,
such as an additional turning lane traffic signal. Nothing's been
completely decided yet. But also keep in mind that this
is going to be built in phases, so the traffic
modifications may be taking place over the next year or two. Additionally,
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we do have the Kalidon Interchange opening up soon fall
of twenty twenty six, so we're hoping that that will
alleviate some of it as well.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
All Right, before we let you go, I got to
ask you this because there's been a some online chatter
about I want to give you a chance to address
that those magical two words that are being thrown about
in West Virginia a lot, and that's data centers. Is
there is there any talk of anything like that in
Putnam County that you can speak to speak.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
Of data centers are looking all over the state of
West Virginia. I'm sure every county development authority in West
Virginia could probably say that they've received some type of correspondence,
especially with the Governor's microgrid bill opening us up for
data centers, but nothing to report at this time.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, Morgan, I appreciate you as always for taking
time out a schedule to be here.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
Thanks a lot, absolutely, thank you, Dave. We appreciate it.
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say something that we failed to mention. They're actually going
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it's for HVAC, plumbing, roofers, citing people of that nature,
and this is going. This is if you want to
be if you're a contractor and you want to be
involved in that project that we just talked about. This
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(31:17):
at the Putnam County Development Authorities web page. It's pc
DA dot org. And we'll have Morgan on again as
we get a little bit closer to talk about that.
Got some text to get you real quick, and we're
going to get to Danny Jones.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
A man with a dream for people.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
Yeah, you are hold on a second, tex says. Trump
says he's finding crime and illegals. So when is he
going to National Guard to mor Lago? So since we
know he has illegals working for him and FBI is
still searching homes of people that was in his cabinet,
that's crooked. Bolton is the latest as a Texter. Texas says,
(31:56):
West Virginia is experienced in when California went through years
ago farmland getting turned into tracked homes. Tex says, it's
Monday and another day for Trump's fascism. What's he doing
today threatening revocation of ABC and NBC's broadcast licenses because
they report negative stories about him? Tell me, how is
this not fascism? I bet if he was doing this
to WVRC media, you all would be calling him a fascist.
(32:17):
That does sound like fascism. I'm gonna go ahead and
say it. It does. Texas. The problem I've heard with
empty nesters saying in the house too big for them
is that they either own the house, or have a
ridiculously low interest rate, or just don't want to move.
How do you convince a person to leave no payment
or low interest payment and take on a high interest
mortgage or move where they don't want to A very
good point.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
The whole talk about revocational it's just bluster. Yeah, it
doesn't mean anything. It's not fascism, it's nothing. It's just Trump.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
It's just Trump being Trump, and it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Hey, Danny, how you doing.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
I'm fine, Thank you, well, thank you.
Speaker 5 (32:50):
For being here. What's the latest with the restaurant?
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Man?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
You got us all excited last week?
Speaker 7 (32:55):
Well, I'm going to open the fourth of September. I'm leaving.
You're not gonna be here on Monday, are you?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
No?
Speaker 7 (33:06):
I'm leaving on Friday, going out west for my last weekend.
I'll be back on Monday and then we'll open on Thursday.
Speaker 5 (33:15):
And this is one week for this Thursday, a.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Week from this Thursday, we'll open back up, okay, and
then what are your hours going to be? Right now?
And BJA and I are still talking about this right now,
eleven to six thirty Monday through Friday. I don't know
about Sunday. Sunday people usually want to eat breakfast. Yeah,
(33:40):
you know, so do you ever dabble? And I know
you've cooked everything and your but you ever ever done
much better? Started?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Right?
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I was a line cook. I mean back in the
back in the bootleg days in the sixties. People come
in at three four o'clock in the morning and they
get edge steak and garlic toast and home fries.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
And that sounds good. Staking eggs is one of my all.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Time favorite means yeah, and now I was I got
that three things on. It's on my Facebook page and
where I gave that speech, right, and a guy showed
some confidence in me. And I was a salad boy
and he said, you move over here, you're going to
(34:27):
be the main line cook. He took the salads and
you had a browler man. So I was the main guy.
And I was seventeen years old. And at seventeen this
this is going to come out in the book. I mean,
it was, you know, Saturday night, we get off at
six three, four o'clock in the morning, we start drinking
(34:48):
and we have drink a bottle of whiskey before we leave,
and then we'd go down the course street and buy
another bottle. And that was my lifestyle. Right now, I
go on to sleep all day.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Yeah, and now you just sleep all day. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I know you keep up
with what's going on the news. Would you think when
you saw this raid on John Bolton's house on Friday.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
I think that I hope he's done something wrong for
that to be violated like that.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
It just seems to me if if what they're looking into,
which seems to be his handling or mishandling of documents,
I mean, at what point do people in Washington realize
you can't put you can't have classified documents in your home.
I mean, at what point?
Speaker 7 (35:35):
What if he didn't John? I mean, what if?
Speaker 5 (35:38):
What if? I know, But I'm just saying. I'm just
saying this. And look, nobody's ever going to say that
Trump is not mean he is running on retribution. He
said that on the numerous cases.
Speaker 7 (35:47):
I'm your retribution. But I'm not even talking about that.
I'm talking about John Bolton. Maybe may if he didn't
do anything wrong, he's had his rights violated. First thing,
you know, what he did for this country is they
took his security away, and he did that in the
(36:10):
name of this country, in the name of this president.
And uh, I think it's sad, but I hope, I mean,
I don't know what to think about it. I was
just watching Bernie Sanders on TV here. You know, he
is totally fearless. He is fearless. He's not afraid of
anything or anybody. He'll say anything, and it doesn't mean
(36:36):
he's right, but he's He certainly is one of the
most recognized people on the planet.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
And he packed him in and wheeling Charleston and a
couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 7 (36:51):
I kind of admire somebody like that.
Speaker 5 (36:53):
I mean, look, you can you cannot be any more
different than I am politically, as are you with Bernie Sanders. Sure,
but but I respect the guy. I respect the guy
for being for coming out and speaking like and going
into an area, especially southern West Virginia, where he is
not popular. And although he did, you know, he did
win West Virginia. But I mean, I'll give him respect.
Speaker 7 (37:16):
And he's he's also has not he is is. He's
not afraid to He's not afraid to go on Fox.
He's been on with Brett Bear, and Brett Bear keeps
him over, keeps him longer, and he keeps other people.
He's to had two town halls on Fox, and he
(37:39):
handles him perfectly. And all the next morning Fox and
Fox and Fiends they they they talk about him in
the nicest, the kindest way, and because he has guts.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
All right, I got a couple of things say. Also,
I want to get to new and as normally you're
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news broke last week Dandy about Man and Meal here
(38:14):
in Charleston. Of course, they were directly across the street
from US. For a while they had a distribution center
across the street, and there were some issues with the
with the school and uh and they eventually moved out
and they're struggling right now. For one, I understand what's
your take on Man and Meal.
Speaker 7 (38:30):
I happen to know because I'm in the game, that
they have reduced of this one vendor I deal with,
they have reduced their purchasing by eighty eighty percent eighty
five percent. Now I don't know if they've done that
with all vendors, the switch vendors, but they're not buying
(38:52):
as much as they used to have. That's all I
know about Man and mel.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
Okay, what about your experience when you were mayor and
dealing with the folks at Man.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
And mel Man and Meal. Well, see, I don't want
to sound cruel, but our problem with homeless started with
the minimal nineteen seventy four. That's when it really that's
when it really got bad. And uh way way, when
you feed people, they will come and they were. And
(39:21):
plus back then, you had you had places for poor
people to stay. Now you don't, I mean you had people.
I mean I lived in the Holly for four years.
Four years I lived in that place, a lot of people.
Frankie had one person that he paid eight dollars a month,
(39:43):
you know, because he would help people. You don't have
any of that.
Speaker 5 (39:47):
But I mean, I understand what you were saying. But
the humanitarian thing would would would be if people need help,
that you help them. Sure, but also know, because of
where we are located, I know what we dealt with
on the regular basis when they were across the street.
I'm not trying to be mean, but I know here
at eleven eleven what we dealt with when they were
across the street from my well.
Speaker 7 (40:06):
When Larry Rose mother died and I watched they were
chasing that house and the Catholic Church stepped in and
bought it. Yeah, And it's what happens to us and
Charleston is people send from other counties, We'll just send
(40:26):
them to Charleston. Just send them to Charleston. That's what
we dealt with.
Speaker 5 (40:33):
Knock out some text here, Texas. You know how you
get lazy, able bodied, self entitled people off their butts
and forced to fund themselves, end welfare and EBT, bring
back commodities. Funny how that worked for decades before stamps
came along.
Speaker 7 (40:47):
Huh, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 5 (40:49):
Well, we were talking earlier when I was talking to
Morgan Tiny about West Virginia's workforce participation and of able
bodied people. We have the lowest workforce participation in America.
We're talking about folks sixteen to early sixties or whatever,
people that can work but choose not to. We have
the lowest in the nation. That's what we were talking about.
Speaker 7 (41:07):
Okay. And there's a lot of mental illness out there,
and that's what I deal with.
Speaker 5 (41:12):
One.
Speaker 7 (41:13):
I'm and there if you when you go out, I
get up in the middle of the night, I go
to my restaurant and I go to work, and because
I can't sleep, this town lights up at two thirty
in the morning. You got these guys riding these little
tiny bicycles and uh, they're checking all the doors.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
You know.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
They got in my plot. They broke in my place.
In your restaurant, stole five thousand dollars worth of caught
car parks for that nomad I had to go.
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Was this recent mm year ago? Okay, and this was
in your restaurant.
Speaker 7 (41:49):
Yeah, they got in. I kept the stuff in my restaurant.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Okay, you may not want to do that going forward.
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
Uh, Okay, A fearless socialist talking about Bernie that took
his honeymoon in the Soviet Union and said that the
breadlines are a good thing. That's a good thing. Oh yeah, burnout.
It's a real patriot.
Speaker 7 (42:13):
I think I'm not gonna call a person unpatriotic because
I don't agree with these views. My main objection to
Bernie is I don't think he's pro Israel enough. But
that's another disagreement that reasonable people can have. Well, and
you said he's never hidden who he was or who
(42:34):
he is. He's always been a socialist. He was elected
as a socialist mayor of Burlington, Vermont.
Speaker 5 (42:41):
And again, whether I agree with people or not, I'm
like you. I have respect for people who are who
they are, and he's fearless that I have respect for that,
Tex says Dave. Thanks for having Mayor Danny on the
program today. He was a strong leader and as a historian,
please keep having him on your program. Thank you. We'll
(43:01):
talk about the book. You brought a book to me,
and also you brought me some salts.
Speaker 7 (43:05):
Yeah, barbecue sar.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
All right, So we'll talk about that coming up a
little bit later on. And I want to talk about
this book that you have with us as well, and
I got a lot of things I want to talk
to you about. We only have ten minutes, actually less
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(45:56):
an inspiration. He gives boy to the voiceless. It says
a texture.
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, he gives a voice. He gives a voice to
people that think like he does. He there's people, there's
people that that's subscribed his philosophy that have texted this
show this very morning.
Speaker 5 (46:17):
Texas asked Danny if he's heard the Game of Thrones audiobook.
I'm almost done and it's excellent.
Speaker 7 (46:22):
I've never watched I don't know anything about the Game
of Thrones.
Speaker 5 (46:26):
I have never Yeah, me either, have mixed two of
us text says Man, and Meal joins a long list
of nonprofits that fail to realize that they can't rely
on government funds and grants to exist, says a texture,
Tell me about this book. You're you're walking in here
carrying a book. In addition to my barbecue saw so well,
you watched in carrying a book here.
Speaker 7 (46:43):
A book that I was one of the top five
books I've ever read my life is a book called
in Broad Daylight. And for those who used to listen
to my show, I had Harry MacLean on. I got
overwhelmed with Skidmore, Missouri and the killing out there that
happened in nineteen eighty one, and I went out there
(47:05):
for the forty three union, and.
Speaker 5 (47:07):
I remember listening, you know, to you talking about it crazy?
What what give us the synopsis of the story for
those that may may not have been listening.
Speaker 7 (47:15):
The whole town saw it, and no one saw a thing.
And what he bullied the town for twenty years?
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Who's he?
Speaker 7 (47:22):
Uh? Ken Rex McElroy Okay, and he was he was,
he was nuts And finally they killed him, they shot him.
And what as you dig in and you listen, you listen,
everybody said, you know, the FBI, everybody investigated, all the
people that would that helped him, wouldn't help the town
(47:45):
when he was bullying the town. The sheriff was afraid
of him. So they went in and no one saw
a thing. Oh I was on the ground. I was.
They all saw it. They egged him on kill the
mL for that's what. That's what.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
What was it, Danny about this story that got you
interested in it? Where did you first hear.
Speaker 7 (48:05):
About sixty minutes sixty minutes piece? Yeah, back back in
eighty two, and just went crazy over it. And then
I got the following Harry, and read the book and
read it again. And then they have a series on
called No One Saw a Thing, which is a farce
(48:26):
or a series. But then Harry and I got to
be friends, and he called me last night.
Speaker 5 (48:31):
You were telling me about that. He just randomly picked
up the phone and called you.
Speaker 7 (48:34):
He called me and he says, and he's read my book.
I sent him a copy of it, and then I'm uncle,
say what he said?
Speaker 5 (48:42):
Okay, but.
Speaker 7 (48:46):
He offered to, you know, to say something in the book.
You know, but it's already gone to it's already gone
to the printer.
Speaker 5 (48:53):
Okay, so when is this book going to be out?
Because I'd like to have a copy of it too.
I like to see it.
Speaker 7 (48:58):
I think November first, but it might be earlier. Okay,
you know it's it's a Charleston book. I mean, it's
not something somebody and my friends in California might like it.
You know, but I talk about a lot of stuff.
I mean a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5 (49:20):
He said, you can't see this on the radio. He says,
with a smirk on his face. I talk about a
lot of stuff.
Speaker 7 (49:24):
I mean, you just can't. There was trying to think
of a story I could tell.
Speaker 5 (49:32):
Don't get me fired.
Speaker 7 (49:34):
No, I wouldn't. There was a there was a guy
that in August is seventy four. I was at the Danuboon.
I knew the guy. I drank with him. He was
there at a convention and we I thought we were friendly,
(49:56):
and he took the phone he was answering and Messa Rensi.
I called me when I took the phone away, then
he came and he jumped on me about the phone.
Now my strategy there was to get him outside, calm
him down. Well I've made one big mistake. I turned
my back on him and he jumped me from behind
(50:19):
and I got on top of him and I held
him in. But I couldn't do anything because my left
shoulder has given me trouble ever since. I've had three
operations on it, and I've got I've got a reverse
shoulder replacement, which is now it's pretty it's pretty normal.
(50:44):
But that's some of the stuff. Well that introduced me
to violence in the game. But there was a guy
then that said, you know, and people that would know this.
Up and Wheeling, there was a guy and they said,
I can get this guy to come down here and
(51:05):
he won't kill him, but he'll break his arm. Make
sure he can't use his arm. Now, there's some older
people out there that know exactly who I'm talking about.
And Frankie Velstry told me, he said, listen to me,
you're going to go places. Don't buy into that, now,
I said, Frankie has said they do it for nothing.
That's because if they want to own you, you don't.
(51:28):
You don't. You don't engage in activity like that.
Speaker 5 (51:31):
So all right, Danny, we got to wrap it up now.
We won't be doing a show next Monday for the holiday.
But I do want to maybe have you and I
want to meet this BJ guy. I'll bring him in
maybe maybe Tuesday or Wednesday. Yeah, of next week. Well,
we're having him on the show, all right. He's got
some big shoes to fill down there, but you're going
to be right there with him, right yeah, all right?
(51:51):
So when are you coming back from California?
Speaker 7 (51:53):
I mean, I'll just be gone three days and then
we open the rest of on Thursday, and then I'll
be I'll be back the next Monday, if you'll have.
Speaker 5 (52:00):
All right, So, but you'll be available next Tuesday or Wednesday.
What you're saying to come on Tuesday.
Speaker 7 (52:05):
I'll be back Monday night.
Speaker 5 (52:07):
Okay, So let's plan on maybe Wednesday.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
How's that Wednesday will be fun?
Speaker 5 (52:10):
All right? You're gonna bring this Bjay guy. I want
to meet this guy, all right, all right, we'll be
there for'mer Charleston mayor Danny Jones always a pleasure. Again,
we'll have Danny back on the show with us. Come
it up maybe next a week from this Wednesday. Gotta go,
Thank you so much. TJ. Meadows will be up to
talk line. Come it up at ten oh six along
with Dave Wilson. I'll be back later today with Metro
(52:31):
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