10/06/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Danny Jones, Mayor Amy Goodwin

Two Charleston Mayors on the show today: Former Mayor Danny Jones and current Mayor Amy Shuler Goodwin.

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former mayor of Charleston about to be best selling author. Uh,
Danny Jones.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
I used to come in every day, you did.

Speaker 5 (02:09):
I remember I listened every day.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
You know when I When I did that, Rod said
to me, he said, let me get this straight. We
do everything we can to protect you from extraneous phone calls,
and now you're going to subject yourself to them wide open, right.
And I never I never had any problem, and I

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used to I take my phone calls.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
Well, here's the problem. I have seen Danny a lot.
And it doesn't matter whether it's you know you or
anybody else. There's a lot of people that will get
that that, you know, keyboard commandos that will go online
and say things. It doesn't matter who the politician is.
It could be any political person. But when they get
an opportunity to actually be constructive, you know, I offer

(02:58):
some constructive criticism. A lot of times they don't. And
that's what I have found again with with a lot
of political people. And it's not their fault. I'm just
saying that people would rather go on and put something
on Twitter, Facebook or whatever, as opposed to saying, okay,
I've got this issue, and it's usually the most venomous
type things. It's not, Hey, we've got a pothole over

(03:19):
on so and so can you check on it. That's
that that happens. But a lot of times it's people
who want to, you know, really question their their political
but they they're questioning them as a person. They don't
like them personally, but they'd rather post it as opposed
to Colin and saying, okay, here's the problem. So that
happens a lot again.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
Because they don't have a problem. They don't have a problem.
They don't like the person, right, they didn't like they
don't like her, they didn't like me, something like.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
That, speaking of not liking you. I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
There was and I don't have it with me right now,
but there was uh an article uh in the paper
colin column on set yeah, column on the iPad pageons
on Saturday, and it had to do with harm reduction.
And that's one of the things you said that you're

(04:09):
going to talk about it, you know, in your book,
which we'll get to a little bit later on, but
in your time as mayor, that was one of the
if you had to, I had to narrow it down
to like three or four big stories. That was it
was at least in the top five. Yeah, and uh,
and your your your take on because you were very
opinionated about about.

Speaker 6 (04:30):
Well, we we proved it was a fraud. It was
supposed to have. The President's Council got up. He was
for it, and of course he didn't live where the
needles would arrive. The people that were for it didn't
live where the needles were turned up. They didn't turn
up in their driveways. But you held up an application,

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had to fill up. But we proved that was a fraud.
We didn't undercover a thing, no application, no needles to return.
There's forty needles, and we shut it down.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
See, I said, I refer to we were talking off
air and I asked you if you'd read the column
from Joe Solomon, and I said, I called it needle
the needle exchange, And you quickly jumped in and said
it was not an exchange.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
There's a mill. It's a needle mill. It was.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
There is a needle exchange. It's down at Health Right.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
And health Right treat these people as patients and if
you come in, you're tested.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
First thing.

Speaker 6 (05:33):
You fill out all kinds of forms because they're going
to find out if they can get any money, Medicaid
or any kind of money to help finance what they're
trying to do, which is pretty smart. And the second
thing is is that they're going to treat you as
a patient. And a third of the people that use

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their facility go into treatment where there's no record of
anybody that went down to the needle mill down at
Canel Charleston Health Department.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
None of them.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Well, number one, we're tested before they went in there.
They don't know if they stopped any HIV or FC
or not because they didn't test them before they went
in there.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
They just gave him.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
Needles where it's it's the opposite down at health.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
Right, there would be those and play devil's advocate here.
I have made my opinions on this very well known. Uh. Anybody.
Sometimes we'll have somebody that'll text the show and they
also think I'm too liberal on things. You don't want
my opinion on things like this, if you think I'm
too liberal on anything.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
But there are people that would say, well, we have
to save lives and uh, and it does and if
we can save a life, we'll save a life. And
to that you would, you know, no questions whatever you
would say, what.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Give them the dope.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Just give it to them, Give them the dope.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Yeah, just give them. It makes more sense. It takes
the criminal element out of it, and you could put
sanctions against them, you'd take away the driver's license.

Speaker 5 (07:20):
I mean that this is something. This had to be
changed in code. You can't just be I understand that.

Speaker 7 (07:25):
I mean, and that's not going to happen in West Virginia.
If you're going to do a needle exchange, you do.
It's the way they're doing health right, not the way
they were doing it down here any given Wednesday, and
they might give out twelve thousand needles. They didn't test
one person before it went in. We documented all this
and it's in the book.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
It's in the book.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Oh, it'll be in the book.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
When we had you on, you know in the last
couple of weeks, you said that was going to take
up a lot of the book.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Was there, Well, it's taking up too much of the book.

Speaker 6 (07:52):
Okay, it's it's it's it's it took up too much
of the book. You had one person who's all for it,
and then you had jb Acres, who who shoots it,
shoots it all down because he did. He did FOI
s he did everything. He documented the thing was a fraud,

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and it was a brummage and the doctor, and it
was just one big mistake.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
Was there any regrets from you as far as mayor
for the way you handle the whole thing?

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (08:29):
Because I voted for it to begin with. I thought
they were going to give away one hundred meters a week.
I didn't know they were going to give away thousands.
But the people that wanted it first thing that it
was personal. They were against me and the people that
wanted it.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
It didn't reach their driveways.

Speaker 6 (08:54):
And they just wanted to beat me and and they
like brummage the doctor. And but we proved the thing
was a fraud.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
So you actually did undercover. I mean not you, but
you said under and.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
I didn't know they were going to do it, right, Yeah,
Chief Cooper.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Do you talk about that in the book a little
bit about the undercover work.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I don't remember, Okay, I don't know it to read
the book.

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Speaker 6 (09:41):
They wanted to take the abortion building down there on
the west side, you know that that building, and some
people came in here and wanted to turn that into
a needle mill. They wanted to do a needle exchange
so called exchange right there, and the council voted it down,

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Thank goodness.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I just and I am not somebody will point out
and say, well, you know where is your doctorate from?
And I don't have one, or anything like that. I
am just not of the thought process, Danny, that continuing
that sort of behavior and aiding that sort of behavior
is going to help anything. Now you can come up
with studies that will say it helps. You can come

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out with studies that say it doesn't help it.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 6 (10:28):
Do it the way, if you do it the way
they do it down at health right, it helps. And
they if they take thirty nagels, they have to bring
thirty back and a third of them go into treatment,
a third right where there's no documented evidence of anybody

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at this mill down at Canal Charleston Health Department went
into treatment or we're tested before they went in. And
that's a big quantifier because you're not tested before you
go in. How do you know if you're preventing anything.
How do you know if you're.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Preventing at a mindset I think from a lot of
the people that are for these things across the country,
a lot of the mindset Danny is as well, they're
going to do it anyway, so do drugs and we
need to make it safer. That's the mindset a lot.

Speaker 6 (11:20):
Well, they can go down to they can go down
to health right, but there's other ways to do heroin.
I'm even smoke caroin ners. But and you can buy needles.
You can buy them in the store. Yeah, So I

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don't think it. I don't know the way that one
was operated. And thank goodness, Counsel voted down under mayor
good one they voted.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
So, so what's the latest on the book? What are
we looking at? As far as I.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Don't know, we were Charlie called me last night. We're
looking at the earliest November first and maybe the middle
of November.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Got to get it in time for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Well, I said, Charlie, hope somebody buys this.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
I don't think you're gonna have to worry about people
buying your books.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Well, you don't know.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
I mean, it's a crapshoot, I know, but you're gonna
have people buy the book. I mean, trust me. I
mean I'm even going to buy one.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
You don't know, though, David. You don't know if people
are gonna.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
They'll buy the book.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Trust It's a book we've done the most expensive way,
in the hardback, with with flaps, with the cover, the
pictures are in color. It's it's it's done the right way.

Speaker 5 (12:46):
It's not like a church cookbook or something. You're just
the right way it's going to be.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
And if we had to stop and it was your fault,
we stopped.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
My fault.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
You said to me, are you going to put the
recipes in all in the book? And I said, we'll
do that in the next book. And I got home
and called Charlie. I said, Charlie, let's do a second book.
But we got to stop this or we're never going
to stop it. Right, Yeah, So we did.

Speaker 5 (13:14):
Okay, speaking of the restaurant, I can tell you a
quick story before we go to break. Semi funny story here.
Apparently not everyone got the message that you had closed
the restaurant. Uh last week one ye, Tuesday, Wednesday, something
like that. Last week I get a text Maaron Parker
from her news team up here, and uh, he said

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that some people called the newsroom because they were trying
to call and there was no answer down there, and
they wanted to know if the phone was out. So,
you know, not everybody got the message, you know, and
they were they were very disappointed. I had to tell Aaron, no.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
It was a painful experience, five thousand dollars plumbing problem,
and you got to you gotta make a decision here, right,
You can't you're going to keep chasing the past or
so I just packed it in.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
It's unfortunate, I mean, it really is. But I understand. Yeah,
I completely understand. All right, I got I got a
couple of questions for you via the text line here.
One says, let me read the question and we'll take
the break. A question for Danny. Several whistleblowers have come
out and said the Chicago police are being ordered not
to not assist ice agents even if they're being physically attacked.

(14:32):
To tell me, how is this not obstruction of justice?
You can't tell local and state agencies to not assist
the FBI, so why is this acceptable and encourage?

Speaker 6 (14:42):
I actually think you can. I think it's wrong. I
don't think it's obstruction. I think it's mismanagement. And ICE
are police officers. That's what these ICE agents are police officers,
and it's all So I agree it's wrong.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't. I don't think it's a truction all.

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three five five zero zero eight text says on the
needle program we were talking about earlier, God forbid, we
demand these people get clean instead of contributing to their
slow suicide by giving all caps, by giving them taxpayer
funded needles.

Speaker 6 (17:44):
Well, I think the point of the whole program is
that they're not. They're not gonna get well, they're not
gonna quit using unless there's a program in place that
educates them along the way, as they do down at
health yeah health right now, down here at they didn't

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do anything like that down at down at Cannel Charles's
health department.

Speaker 5 (18:14):
What you take on the government, the partial government shutdown.

Speaker 6 (18:18):
I don't know why they're getting paid. I mean, I
understand Carol Miller is not taking her paycheck.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
She'll be on Metro News midday to day to talk
about it.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
But I don't know why any of them are getting paid.
If they can't, if they can't fund the government, what
are they there for?

Speaker 5 (18:37):
Right?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
And they're getting paid and it's wrong, And.

Speaker 5 (18:41):
I mean, I don't think this thing is gonna it's
gonna be settled anytime soon.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Do you I think President Trump's going to use it
to to punish people, to you know, eviscerate programs on
the lane left and people on the left right. He's
an eviscerator, yeah, yeah. I mean he's not a conservative

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or a populace. He's an eviscerator.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
No. I've said this from day one about Donald Trump.
Regardless of how you feel about him. He's not conservative,
I mean now at all.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
He's not even a populist.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
He's a guy that his whole thing is to his too,
in the words of David Brooks, eviscerating do away with
things that do away with things on the left or
institution to the left. This whole fight is about the
Affordable Care Act. There's not much of it left right,

(19:41):
and this would get rid of what's left of it,
and it would hurt to state. It would hurt because
it'll close hospitals. Anybody that can get to a hospital
can get healthcare. You might you're lying in the in
the mercery room, might get longer, but you you can

(20:02):
get healthcare.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
And then this came about during the Reagan administration. I
heard a discussion about that on one of the TV
talk shows yesterday. They were talking about that on I
think it was ABC. On this week they were talking
about that.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
Yeah, you you can get you can get health care.
But you can't get healthcare if you can't get to
a hospital.

Speaker 8 (20:21):
And the.

Speaker 6 (20:24):
In and the v A and Huntington, which is really
in Kentucky. The VA and Huntington is full of staff,
and the reason's full of staff. It's because the hospital
National And closed, and that closed before this happened. So

(20:47):
hospitals will close if they don't. If they don't shore
this thing up, this Medicaid things, if they don't preserve
the status, that's what's going to happen. It's going to
close hospitals.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Well, and we can't even get to a place and
this goes back to what you and I have talked
about on the air. We can't even get to a
place where we know what we're arguing about. No, I mean,
because everybody is owning it. Everybody is well, it's because
of the Dems, it's because of the Republican and everybody's
digging just like everything else, Danny, we dig our heels
in and it's their fault and it's never, never our fault.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
The argument the Republicans make is all we're doing is
going back to where we were before the Affordable Care
Act passed. We still have Medicaid money, we just won't
have as much. Some states didn't take advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
We did. Florida. Didn't you know they didn't take advantage
of it. We did.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
I want to ask you something. I brought this up
on the air last week and I'm gonna get your opinion.
It has to do with President Trump. I have said
that regardless of how you feel about President Trump, and
you and I are on the same page on President Trump.
Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing. I mean that

(22:16):
people that are just obsessed with it. I was having
coffee with a former my former radio station manager this morning.
We meet for coffee everybody, and he said something to
the effect of Trump could cure cancer, and people would
have an issue with it.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
If he can, let me tell you something, He's gonna
look pretty good if he can. If he can formulate,
he and Derrick Kristener, another guy, can formulate a resolution
to this mess down in Gaza. I mean, President Trump's
gonna look pretty dagone good.

Speaker 5 (22:56):
But would you agree that there is a certain segment
of the popular that is absolutely obsessed with dona true?

Speaker 3 (23:02):
My goodness.

Speaker 5 (23:03):
I mean, look, you you can disagree with his policies,
which I do on many many things. You can disagree
with him as an individual, which I do on many
many things. However, I see when he does good things,
I'm willing to say it, and I want the president.
Oddly enough, strange thought, I want the president to do well.
Whether I voted for him or not, I want because

(23:24):
I want to. I want the country to do well.

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I want him to do well in Gaza. That's that's
what I'm kind of obffessed with right now. I'll go
up to the Why every morning at five and I
was walk in the circle, you know, I walk a
mile every morning up there. They have TVs all over
the place, and I'm looking. It's all about the Middle

(23:46):
East and about and about President Trump. And I'm just
told he's successful. What a big deal that would be.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Indeed, Texas Democrats are demanding two hundred billion dollars for
health care for illegal aliens. Know, I can't afford insurance
of my own employer for myself, So no to my
hard earned tax dollars to pay for millions of people
who should not even be here. That shut down is
on the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Okay, okay, you're not going to get an argument with me.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
Tex says, are people realizing what Republican policies are doing.
They don't want you to have affordable health care, they
don't want you to have a functioning an educational public
school system.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I'm not sure I agree with that.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Before I let you go. I do want to ask
you a couple of things about it. Legislative interims are
going on, any any recollections from any interims back in
your in your day when you serve the legislature.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
I like them, and because they were casual, you could.
They were joint committees with senators. And by the way
you were asked me about Marjor Burke, I'm going, I'm
gonna that's what That's what the thing I'm gonna do.
And you were able. It was more casual, you could.

(24:59):
Everybody was chairman, you know. It was just a I
liked in Urum, so I thought they were good and
I was. Of course they were all here then they
were all in Charleston.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, these are in Charleston now, but they do go
around the state for differently.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
Well maybe they should, yeah, they probably should. But when
I was there, they were all in Charleston, and I
enjoyed inn Urham. I thought they were good.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
All right.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
You mentioned it there a couple of days ago, and
we talked about it on the mid morning news. This morning,
Marge Burke passed away. She served from nineteen seventy eight
through nineteen ninety six in the legislature and the State
Democratic Party was out with the statement about how she
was a trailblazer for women and government. I'm sure Mayor
Goodwin want to talk about it your memory.

Speaker 3 (25:44):
She's gonna put the hay down where the goats can
get it.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
That was that was her thing.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
That was her thing.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
I'm going to put the hay down where the goats can.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
Get And I think she was married to Billy Burke,
who was the person that put together the regional jails.
He was Gaston's guy that got together with Howard Yeowey.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
He was the architect.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
And but Marge was a real nice lady. And it
was very partisan back then. Demonbo, you know Republicans. The
Preacher of the House, I can't remember his name. He
was a conservative Democrat from Summers County. He has said, well,

(26:30):
we you all are down there in the amen corner.
We want we do we want you all say amen.
There were only twenty of us, twenty of Republicans. Yeah,
only twenty Republicans back then. And but Marge was one
of the Democrats. And if you if you were on
a committee, you could you could get something done as

(26:53):
a Republican. But the problem was a guy like Catcher
who just died. If he didn't like what you did,
you just wouldn't put it on the agenda. He said,
you know you've passed a committee. Well, bye bye.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
How much time in your book and we'll wrap it
up with this. How much time in your book is
going to be spent on your days in the legislature?

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Not much, now, I didn't. I not much at all?

Speaker 5 (27:20):
Okay, all right, we'on't wait for the second or third
book on that. It was a I want to hear
stories about it because I know a lot of these
people you serve with, people like Bill Anderson from Logan
County and jose Fawoll late to jose Bill still living.
Bill lives in Florida, but JOSEIEH. Ferrol passed a couple
of years.

Speaker 6 (27:36):
You said that Harry with Harry's read the book Harry
McLean in broad Daylight? Yeah, yeah, bid Moore. He said,
you should have built build up more as to why
you ran for sheriff. In other words, there's something that
happened when I was twenty four, and that that was

(28:00):
a reader and I'll believe it at that And when
I was thirty four, I was elected Sheriff Kennall County.
What happened between those times had made all that change
because there were some changes, right, all right.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well, we'll read about it in the book, but we'll
talk about little bit more next week. Asa Okay, all right.
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have done that and would get the results that have happened,
But previous presidents weren't as psychotic as Trump. Charleston, Mary Amy,
Sure a good one is here.

Speaker 11 (31:38):
How you doing, I'm wonderful. How about you?

Speaker 5 (31:40):
I am doing fine. Thank you for being here. I
did I've got it.

Speaker 11 (31:43):
That a cowboy shirt, of course, it is, Yes, looks
nice on you.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Thank you, Thank you. We won yesterday. We met Mike
Pushkin's jet. If Dallas had a defense, we'd be okay
because we got one of the best offenses in the
league right now. But the defense is you and I
could probably you know, get one hundred yards gainst the scalp.
I wanted to ask you, just real quick about the
passing of Marge Burke. She of course served as Danny

(32:07):
and I talked about from seventy eight through ninety six
and legislature of your thoughts.

Speaker 11 (32:11):
Sure, Actually I knew Delegate Burke because she was girlfriends
with my grandmother, My grandmother theas Francis o'donald blat Neeck,
Irish Catholic from the North single of mom of three
and Marge had a lot in common in their time

(32:31):
in the House, and then my grandmother went on to
the Senate. But during their time in the House they
worked on family issues, women's issues, and you know, to
be standing in that chamber, Dave where you know, unfortunately,
still to this day, it's very rare to see women
walking the halls of the State House. They were too powerhouses,

(32:56):
very outspoken. But you know, as I was listening to,
you know, conversations about her over the weekend and just
a little bit ago, it is and allows me to
sit back and reflect of a time I almost remember,
like yesterday, I was a page. It could be a page.
They still have pages. And it was so fun to

(33:17):
be with my grandmother because we stayed in her hotel
room and got to order cheeseburgers to the room and
that was super like fun, and got to go to
the pool and swim at night. But where Democrats and
Republicans did then what people should expect us to do now,
which was have a healthy, respectful, professional debate, which just

(33:42):
doesn't seem to happen any longer with you know, all
sides of all parties. And they did it, and they
did it extremely well. You can be passionate about something,
can be thoughtful about something. You can have certainly your
own opinions, and some of those opinions are backed up
by act. We always hope.

Speaker 6 (34:01):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (34:02):
But it was a time and a place that I
watched my grandmother have hearty discussions on the floor and
in the hallways. And I remember one time my sister
a different different house member, actually she's in the Senate,
different Senate member, different party, and they were discussing and
and we walked away and my sister said, we called
her Mimi. And my sister said, my grandmother said, we're

(34:24):
gonna go back to the hotel, but we're gonna we're
gonna grab We're gonna have our dinner with Senator so
and so. Girls. My sister said, but Mimi, you don't
like him. And she said, oh no, honey, is one
of my best friends. We're like, what it was okay
to have those discussions and then go and break bread.
And it just sounds so trite, and so, you know,

(34:45):
I sound like a broken record when I say it.
It's just it's old. It's old, and you know, my
children and the future of folks who are in public servant.
What I what I fear, Dave more than anything, is
that it becomes such a sur in, such a show
that people are not going to want to run because

(35:07):
they don't want to put up with it.

Speaker 8 (35:09):
You know.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
I have a different philosophy about that. It's that's that
won't bother me, you know. And people say, oh, did
you see this online?

Speaker 12 (35:15):
No?

Speaker 11 (35:16):
I don't. No, I don't. If you call my office
or you text me, or you email me and you
want to sit down and have a conversation or you
want to have a discussion about issues and be respectful
and kind, yes, But if you want to say I'm
stupid or fat or whatever online, I am not interested
in that whatsoever. It just kind of junks up. It
junks up your brain. But I think it is also

(35:38):
done by design. And the days of March Burke and
her wonderful way about her was just that, and I
hope we can all go back to that.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
And the passing of Kittie Dooley too. You came on
Metro News midday and talked about it kind of last
minute on Friday. But in case people didn't hear that.

Speaker 11 (35:54):
Yeah, just such a loss. She was such a champion,
and you know, read the the stories that you guys
have posted and the testimonials of her friends and mentors
and colleagues. I hope people know what she did behind
doors as well, was to say to women, don't stand
in the back of the room, stand up here with us,

(36:17):
don't don't stop asking questions because that is a that's
a space that I feel like we're also getting into.
I don't want to I don't want to seem dumb,
because we should know because of these little things we
hold in our hands all day, I feel like I
should know everything. Well, Kitty didn't believe in that. She
believed in continuing to ask questions and getting the perspective
of everyone. She was a wonderful mentor to so many

(36:40):
of us, a good friend, but somebody who captured millions,
gave millions of dollars in funding to make sure that
our babies were taken care of and people had a
safe place to live at the end of the night. Yeah,
she was a great advocate for women and just an
outstanding legal mind. But she cared about people and that
was the most important thing.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
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(37:20):
Charleston Land Use of land Reuse Agens. He's going to
have a public meeting tomorrow night. It's going to be
at Element Edge Downtown to update residents on its work
for vacant, abandon dilapidated properties and trying to get them
to somewhat productivity or you know, to make them productive.

(37:42):
And there's going to be a presentation on the current
projects and programs, followed by opportunity for residents to speak
directly with the board. What can you tell us about
that meeting?

Speaker 11 (37:52):
Sure, very quickly, I'll go backwards before I go forward.
Created the Land Reagency and two thousand and nineteen and
we have been builtilding this group for many, many years.
I say all the time, but it's always worth repeating.
I've torn down since being mayor because we had a
stockpile of homes that needed to be torn down. I
don't like to tear down houses, by the way, Dave.

(38:13):
I don't like to if we can rehabilitate them, getting
them into use with another family, that's what That is
my ultimate goal. And I'll talk about those three programs
that we started. But I have torn down since becoming
mayor over seven hundred properties plus. But you can't tear
an entire city down and build it up at the

(38:35):
same time if you're actually not building. I did a
speech over the weekend to talk about building and how
joyful it is, and it is. The Land Reuse Agency
has three programs we're going to talk about just in
a quick presentation, our home Ownership Property Renovation Fund, our
Rehabilitation of vacant houses, and our side lot program. Because

(38:55):
you know, many of the spaces that we are places
that we have torn down. It may not be big
enough to build another house, Dave, but by golly it
it sure is nice to have that extra parking pad,
especially on the East end and the West side. Where
you know, now we have two cars now just a
one car family, and we're not just parking on the street.
We like to bark, or we want a bigger yard,
we want to put a slicky slide in for the babies,

(39:17):
or want to have a nice guard and so that
has been a very popular program. So tonight we're not
only going to share what we have done to it
is tomorrow, I'm sorry, tomorrow night. Yeah, tonight's counseling to
get to that. Yeah, we will talk about that. But
tomorrow night, five thirty elmen edge, we're going to talk
a little bit about what we've done, but we also
want to hear from you. You know, the most valuable thing.

(39:38):
You want to You want to know what people really feel.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (39:41):
It's something that we do and we do all the time.
We have so many community meetings because we should. We
have so many town halls because we should. But the
other thing I wanted to make mention, and I know
you know, I do this every single month. I try
to do it every single week. Hours and hours and
hours go door to door. Still I go door to

(40:02):
door and just say hi, I'm here, I'm with the government,
I'm here to help but but I give them a
flyer to say, here are all the numbers of every
agency in the City of Charleston, all of our divisions,
including mine. What do you got well? I went. I
was in Kanas City last week and several You know,

(40:23):
when people say, let me tell you what people are
talking about, I'll tell you what they're talking about. They're
talking about neighborhood issues. They care about the things that
are happening well, not only on their straight That lights out, amy,
get it fixed. Hey, that pothole, Hey, that crack sidewalk. Hey,
there are speeders Kanas City. There are lots and lots
of speeding calls that we received and certainly tackling that
issue as well. But it's it's not only on their block,

(40:46):
but it's inside their house. You know what, what what
is my neighborhood?

Speaker 9 (40:51):
Like?

Speaker 11 (40:52):
How about opportunities for my kids? Jobs, paychecks? So it
is you know, people are myopic, as they should be.
These are their lives. And we have also got in
a way from talking about things that really impact people.
And when you can listen and learn from the things
that they really really care about, that's when you can
make good progress.

Speaker 5 (41:09):
You mentioned counsel tonight. One of the items on the
agenda authorizing the transfer of the eight hundred thousand dollars
think it is from the Opioid Settlement Fund to the
Care Office.

Speaker 11 (41:23):
Yeah, right so, and for good reason. We're doing that
to make sure that the care Team is funded. There
are fewer grant programs out there to help sustain but
fortunately we have some of moneys from the Opioid Settlement Fund,
some of those monies Dave by the way, and I
think I talked about it on this program. I know
Matthew Sutton, my chief of staff, did we have, with

(41:45):
council's approval, are working with community organizations to help their
funding to get out and do some recovery. It's everything
from prevention and recovery, prevention and recovery, and it is.
It's going extremely well. Lots of folks, more applications than

(42:08):
we have money in this first round. We're working with
the United Way on it, so it's really really beneficial.
But the care Team is the coordinated addiction response effort.
Remember I talked about walking houses when I ran for mayor.
I wanted to know what people actually wanted, not just
what people wanted them to believe and we can get
into that if you'd like. But it was the thing

(42:29):
that I heard my mother, sister's brother, she has addiction,
Please help us, and so I started the care program
and our main goal is to get people into recovery.
We have two thousand people since we started we've put
into recovery, and so we're very proud of that. But
let me also hit on the heels of saying the
Care Team also works with our police department. They also
work with our fire department. I want to get you

(42:50):
into recovery, but if you're here to take advantage of
our kindness, if you're here to commit crimes, you'll go
to jail. So it's you know, the care Team has
evolved over years day, but it's funding to make sure
that they can continue to do their good work. And
also we have what's called the Care one Team, which
is member of the Care Team, member the police department,
member the fire department, and they go out and they

(43:13):
take on calls that the police officers don't have to
go to. You talk about it all the time on
this show. Our police officers are not mental health experts.
They are experts in a lot of fields, and that's
not one of them. We're getting better with our cit training.
But they go out in the field and they respond
to the call, so a police team doesn't have to

(43:34):
go out that they have a three member excellent team.
If we do need police, they certainly are called the
fire department and our medics go with them. If it's
something that they can handle, they handle it there to
make sure that your ambulance that you need is there
for you and to intercept those calls. That's what municipal
government is doing right now. We're doing the heavy lifting

(43:58):
and the very very hard work of this opioid crisis
and quite frankly, this mental health crisis.

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One thing, Mayor I thought it was interesting, is I
come into Charleston every morning about seven thirty. Now, keep
in mind, I'm coming from Tays Valley, so sometimes it's
eight thirty. I attempt for it to be seven thirty.
But it's a good time to come into town because people,
you know, in the courthouse and city Hall or whatever
are just starting to come in. One of the things
that was I posted some pictures on my social media beautiful,

(47:20):
beautiful sunrise this morning.

Speaker 11 (47:21):
Yeah really coo.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Well, when you come in to town on Virginia Street,
one of the things that I notice is all of
the construction of those big buildings downtown. I mean, I
just I like it because obviously, you know, you get
people investing here in downtown Charleston. I don't know, it
sounds corny. I just like you know, when you're pulling

(47:44):
into town at that time and you see the folks
out there working on the sunrise and everything. There's a
lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 11 (47:50):
Sure, you know, and especially on that Virginia Street as
you comment off of the interstate exit there. It's funny,
this has been gosh you it's probably been or so.

Speaker 8 (48:00):
Now.

Speaker 11 (48:01):
My husband sent to me, I leave the house before
he does in the morning. But he came down and
he took a picture of just that stretch of Virginia
Street and had cranes plural in it, and he said,
I wanted to send you this picture because I know
how much you love cranes, and I do. I love
cranes because cranes in a city means development, it means progress. Now,

(48:23):
I will say, we do get calls every now and then,
why is this sidewalk shut down? All the lights are
out here? Well, when you're building, there's a lot of
construction that goes on, and there's a lot of stuff
that we have shut down to make sure that those
cranes get in and HVAC systems get put on on roofs.
But there is a lot of construction going on in
the city of Charleston, and we're super proud of that.

(48:44):
But let me also say that just a hop, skip
and a jump to the Municipal Auditorium and hopefully you
keep I sound like a broken record, but that is
a building that we are still investigating with our architects
and engineers. Do we and we save it? Can we
save any part of it? And then what does that
look like? And what is the investment that we should

(49:06):
be making in that facility. So that's still on the table.
And the huge, big elephant in the room is the mall.
And you know, I always like to say when people
say what are you going to do with the mall?
And I say, well, it's not mine. It's like me
saying what am I going to do with your business?
Where's your business in town? You don't want me coming
in and doing it. But you know, as we inch
closer to some announcements on some future progress, I am

(49:29):
so incredibly excited about the development and that part of
the city of Charleston. You can't have a thriving city
if you don't have a downtown city center. At Slack plaza.
We put three million in. We got fifteen million back
immediately in return. I play that investment game all day.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
You know it is you talk about the mall, IM
mean thisbaudatorium. Those are things that I've been doing. I've
been doing this show for five years, mayor, and I
was tarking about it in May of twenty twenty. Of course,
that was during COVID when I started doing the show,
and people then we're talking.

Speaker 11 (49:59):
About the Yeah, sure, well people have been talking about
them all for twenty years. Really. I remember when Danny
Jones left office, and I'm sure he remembers this. He
literally walked out of the office on that day and said, well,
that's the anvil around your neck. Good luck, And he
was right, by the way. But it's really hard when
you don't have control of a piece of property.

Speaker 5 (50:20):
It's a private business. And again I think people fail
to realize that. You know, they'll say, you know, why
don't you do something or whoever the mayor is. You
can't tell people as long as they're following, you know,
all the regulations. You cannot go in and tell people
how to run a private business. That's right, I mean,
and that's what it is.

Speaker 11 (50:37):
But I think that you know, as commissioner president of
SELANGO and I continue our discussions about the Capital Sports
Complex also, it's going to continue on into that footprint
of them all. What can happen in that space and place.
And what we do know is this, since changing the
management at the coliseum and convention Center, and with all

(51:00):
of the national and international attention that we've received on
sporting events, we have a really grand opportunity to continue
to build in that area of the city, which is
quite frankly thriving right now.

Speaker 5 (51:12):
Can you give us any hint to the doll as
far as what may happen, I didn't think so. I
just thought i'd ask you, well, I'll just say this.

Speaker 11 (51:18):
I'll just say this. When people say we need them
all we need we need look at Barbersville. We do
have Barbersville. It's called South Ridge and by the way,
half of it is in the city of Charleston limits.

Speaker 12 (51:26):
We do have that.

Speaker 11 (51:27):
People like to shop that way. Will we have the
mall the way that the mall is no, and that's okay,
by the way, that's okay. If you look at the
city of Charleston, as we were building and growing things
things change, and that is okay. Markets decide though those decisions,
and so we're looking forward to having more development, especially

(51:49):
in downtown and housing housing.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
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(52:34):
he did something like that like that? Yea yeah, well
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