10/23/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - JB McCuskey, Bill Picozzi, Tim Brady

Attorney General JB McCuskey, Bill Picozzi on his new book, Tim Brady of the Charleston CVB on recent announcements.

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I got this real bad habit.

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Of saying the wrong day, and I don't know where
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It's certainly you're not on yet. It's Thursday.

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Morning.

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all right, coming up on the show a little bit
later on. For years he has been one of the
top promoters in the state of West Virginia, everything from
food festivals to circuses to concerts, working with everyone from
Muhammad Ali to Pete Rose. Now he's written a book.

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He's Bill Pocozi. He's going to join us in studio,
coming up a little bit later on. Also, just a
couple of days ago, two big event announcements from the
City of Charleston and other officials. The dates have been
set for the USA Cycling Pro Road National Championships. Now
we get worried that the following week in June, this
USA Gymnastics All Gymfest is coming to town. Expected about

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five hundred athletes. That's five hundred people. That's five hundred athletes,
not counting all the family members and fans and going
along with it. So a pretty big deal for the
city of Charleston. Tim Brady from the Charleston Convention of
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Jerry Construction Studios. Now State Attorney General Jimmy mccusky. Now
you can speak my friend.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Thank you, David.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
I appreciate that you're welcome. John Thanks for being here,
Thanks for being.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
I've been called Johnson's I was in trouble.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Get a closer to that microphone. I act like you've
been here before.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
I haven't been called Johns since I was in trouble.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
When I was I was going to say, when you're where, well,
you know you started acodom me, David.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
That is correct, So there you go.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
All right, I'm going to start on a serious note
and then we'll get into some more serious things. But
because it's you and me, sometimes we kind of you're offload.
I do want to talk about Kenny Bass. Kinny Bass
quurse passed away two nights ago, sixty two of cancer.
Your your recollections with Kenny Bass.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, you asked me what was on my mind, and
I think we both sort of decided that Kenny was
kind of on our mind this morning. And you know,
I spent eight years as the auditor and Kenny for
all eight of those years was the investigative reporter for
the news station right, and so Kenny and I spent
a lot of time together. From the Supreme Court impeachments
through the end of my term as auditor. He was

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really the pre eminent investigative reporter around here. And Kenny
did things the right way. He researched his stories, he
got first hand sources, and when Kenny wrote something or
said something, there was there was meaning behind it, and
he really set a standard for journalists in the area here.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
But when you look at all the national awards.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
And things that he won, he was respected and set
the same sort of standard nationwide. And the world would
be a lot better if Kenny was still here, and
the world would be a lot better if all of
our journalists had the same compassion and intelligence and ethics
that Kenny had. And so he's going to be really
really missed around the Capitol and in my office.

Speaker 3 (04:42):
And the public viewing. We learned yesterday on the show
yesterday mentioned News Midday will be at the Clay Center
on Friday evening.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
I can't imagine that Kenny would have wanted that Kenny
Kenny to be publicly viewed all that.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, you never know, but but you know, and a
lot of people didn't know this about Kenny because he
only saw the guy on television.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Now.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I think probably those of us in the Kanaw Valley did,
but maybe elsewhere did not. He was a big lover
of the arts involved with you know, the various productions, plays,
dinner theaters, animal lover did all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
He was a great actor and and and Kenny also
got married a little bit later in life and just
absolutely loved is his bride and his family.

Speaker 6 (05:20):
And you know, he was pretty private about that stuff.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Kenny was.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Kenny was an.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Awesome husband and an awesome person and a great dad
to his to his children that he sort of got
later in life.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Turned to General J. B. Mccusky's Here of a Dave
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of the podcast menu. I was kind of keeping an
eye on the national news here with everything going on.
It seems that the biggest, biggest story of the last
couple of days has has been this uh reno that

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the President is doing uh to the White House. A
lot of people are upset about it. Some people are not.
Is there any truth in the room that you're gonna
be doing a similar thing at the Capitol?

Speaker 4 (06:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
So if you've seen outside the Capitol, there's a lot
of back hoes and jack hammering going on. And so
the mccusky family wing, which will be a ballroom and
also a golf simulator, will be added right on the
river side to make sure that the Capitol has all
the facilities that somebody needs.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
You probably need to follow that up by saying you're joking.
I am joking because this is where we live right now.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
JB.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
You know that if Randall Reid Smith is listening, I'm
sorry Randall for giving you a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
We were kidding. What do you make of all that?
In all seriousness, then we'll get to state issues.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Heres.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
I mean, at the end of the day, I think
people the twenty four hour news cycle and everybody is
just conditioned to try to be mad about something all
the time. And you know, it's the White House. It
was built from whole cloth, like not that long ago.
And so the idea that this president thinks that that
building should have a should have a ballroom in it, fine,

(06:59):
I mean, whether you like it or don't.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Like it, it just isn't that big of a deal.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
And I'm kind of right there with you. And I've
been somebody that's not always been on board with this
president the administration, but that's just kind of where I am.
I mean, and you look back at all these folks
that all these other presidents that have done all these
things to it. I mean, you know, Truman basically redid
the White House, and first Ladies have done it, and
Obama put in a basketball court.

Speaker 6 (07:21):
And they used to have a swimming pool. It's had
a golf hole out there.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
I mean, and I guess if a Democrat, God forbid,
wins presidency next time, they won't use the ballroom.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
I mean, it's going to say. It's not like they
can take it with them. You're not going to put
it in a mobile home.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
And you have to assume that the next president is
going to go in there and be like, oh, this
ballroom is actually pretty sweet and it's great that I
don't have to go all over God's creation to have
these state dinners, and you know, and then everyone will
forget about it when the first time they have an
event with a Democrat in that ballroom, everyone will say, Oh,
this ballroom's really nice.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, all right, What else is on your mind? What
are you working on these days?

Speaker 6 (07:54):
A lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (07:56):
You know, we've talked about this before, but we have
the BPGA case coming up at this Supreme Court that's
taken up a whole lot of our energy. We have
some really interesting cases coming up involving data privacy and
child safety as it relates to the ways that kids
and and people that pray on children interact with them online.
I think in the coming months we're gonna have some

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really exciting announcements about some actions we're taken against those folks.
And you know, just in general, we have a government
shutdown going on right now, and that takes up a
lot of oxygen everywhere that we go, and you know,
everybody wants to sort of figure out why it's happening.
And I think the answer is usually right right underneath
everybody's nose, and that's that Congress has a really hard

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time getting along.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Is there any impact as it trickles down to your
office from the from a federal government show.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Yeah, there would be.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
We have a pretty significant interaction with the Medicaid system
because we run the Medicaid Fraud Unit. But you know,
our grants are are are annual, so not necessarily. I
think it's time for people that are it's funny to
me that that there's a whole group of people that
vote to close the government down and then blame the
people that voted for keeping it open for shutting it down.

(09:09):
It's time for those who are voting no to vote
yes and figure out a more productive way for them
to try to make their point. And that's probably going
to come at the ballot box as it's supposed to.

Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I mean, any idea from you, any gases to
when when the whole thing comes to an end, you know.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
The longer it goes, the longer it can go, right.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
And I think we had the number two Democrat in
Congress yesterday saying that she is she understands that this
is causing enormous consternation to American families and the most vulnerable.
And I think her exact quote was that our that's
our biggest leverage point and so the people who are
voting no, I think understand what they're doing, uh, and

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they are willing to cause that level of pain in
order to achieve the non budgetary goals that they have
that really need to be dealt with in in individual bills.
And I think when you look at the totality of
what Congress does, they've become, you know, sort of a
biennial budget convention. And it is difficult to legislate when

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every single piece of legislation has five thousand topics in it.
And if you look at our state legislature, one of
the really great rules that we have as the single
issue rule. And what that does is it prevents this
problem where everybody is voting on one thing. Right, Are
we going to change this tax? Are we going to
allow this behavior? Are we going to change this regulation?
Instead of lumping them all together so that everyone can

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find something they like and everyone can find something they
don't like, they legislate on individual issues. And if I
think if our United States Congress were to move towards
that sort of concept, a lot of these problems would
be would be mitigated.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
If you were in DC, if you were in the
seat of Senator Capito, or Senator Justice or.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
Which more or will not be.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, Well, I understand that, I understanding, But if you
were to be in Washington, what would you be doing
right now?

Speaker 6 (11:01):
What would I be doing?

Speaker 5 (11:03):
I would be doing every single thing that I could
to convince people voting to shut the government down that
there is a pathway for the issues that they find
important on the other side of voting to reopen the government.
And it's about building trust, and it's about building friendships,
and it's about building an understanding that all of us

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are here to do a job, and the job is
to run the federal government. And when one part of
the government isn't completing that task, the rest of the
government shuts down. And so I think you have to
start convincing your colleagues that this idea that us not
performing our most fundamental task is causing pain to American

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citizens is not appropriate. And you know, there's just a
baseline level of achievement that has to happen in passing
a budget is one of them.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
And I think what happens too and can we're talking
to atourney Attorney General mccusky. I think what happens to
people as just the kind of creatures we are. We're
always worried about, well, what's it going to do to me,
no matter whether it's this or whatever. And maybe right now,
when you start looking at the federal government, you think, well,
you know, this doesn't impact me. I get up and
I go to work every day. And it's a fair point.

(12:17):
I completely get that. But however, the longer this thing goes,
it is going to impact everyone involved. And if you
right now we're not seeing a lot of issues in
West Virginia as far as air travel and stuff like that,
we are going to It's going to happen eventually. I've
got some friends that plan on a trip to Texas
for Thanksgiving and they were saying, well, we may be

(12:39):
looking at running a van and hauling the family down there, because.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
I striving to Texas before, and that's a long drive.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
It is a long drive. I've never done it, but
I'm fully aware that it probably is. I think a
lot of times people will see how does this affect me,
and maybe maybe they'll react and care a little bit
more then yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
And I think on the other side of that, though,
is that the power of incumbency is so strong in
Congress that that we have this system, the situation where
everyone likes their congressman, but they hate Congress.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
And so when you then go to.

Speaker 5 (13:08):
The ballot bruth you say, well, my person was doing
a great job, but I hate all the rest of them, right,
And so then the changes don't don't end up happening,
and we end up with people who are there for
a very, very long time. And you know, that used
to be a situation where everyone had these wonderful relationships
with each other. There were these long term friendships in Congress,
and a lot of those internal relationships, especially across party lines,

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appear to have deteriorated.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
All Right, what's on the on the agenda the next
couple of weeks for you for your office?

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Yeah, so I am speaking at a group called America's
Power in d C. In a couple of weeks, and
they're the pre eminent coal oriented power plant advocacy group.
I have a speech at a place called the Federalist Society,
which is a rule of law group, and we're talking
about all of the incredible things that our office is
doing on the energy front. I have just an enormous

(14:01):
amount of work to do in the office, so we
have to we have a case that involves drug prices.
It's something called three point forty B that we're working
really hard on. We're spending a lot of time on
these vaccine cases and preparing, like I said before, for
a United States Supreme Court argument.

Speaker 6 (14:16):
Is no small task.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
What goes into that, what goes into that at the
kitchen table is night with the index cards.

Speaker 5 (14:23):
Yeah, it would, yeah, kind of. It's a little bit
more involved than that.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
There's just about two hundred people doing that with you.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
It's mostly about research and then it's about practice. So
we do these things called moot courts where we find
really really good lawyers from all around the country who
will act as the Supreme Court justices and then find
somebody to act as the lawyer on the other side.
And so you practice the arguments so that when you
get into the actual room in the Supreme Court, you're
as prepared as you can be for what are the

(14:51):
potential questions and explanations that you have to give based
on the arguments that you've made in your written briefing.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Do you have you on the show?

Speaker 4 (15:01):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
You like this? You liking this weather?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
This is a great job. I love I love doing
this job.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
What about the weather. You like the weather? The weather's
the weather is I love I've always said this long,
this time of year, I love it all.

Speaker 5 (15:12):
So I am glad that it's cooled off a little bit.
I love the four seasons. I don't the Indian summer
gets a little hard.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
As as do Attorney General JM. McCuskey. Always a pleasure
to have you be in the show.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Thank you, Talk to you soon. All right.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
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rage machine is working to distract from things we should
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this so hard to understand? I will own that. I
should say more, it's a partial government shutdown. I own that.
If you don't know the name, but you've been around
Charleston for a while, you probably do. Our guest is
someone of a legend in the world of promotions in
the State's name is Bill Poczy, and he's out with
a new book entitled True Confessions of a Promoter. Bill
Pecozy joined us now. Bill, Good morning, Welcome to the show.

(18:42):
Good morning, Thanks for having me, Thanks.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
For being here.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
I want to talk about how you got in to
this whole promotions business. To begin with, It's a wild,
wild world and yours started with the circus.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
Talk about it well, actually, my grandfather, which scepting my
grandfather was the biggest promote in the United States back
in the twenties and thirties, and he owned a big
circus in a carnival and he had to rent forty
four railroad cars to travel with all his equipment around
the United States to the shows. My mother was part

(19:14):
of that, and she was a vaudeville star. A lot
of people remember Judy Garland, which became a big star
during that time, and she was my mother's warm up
act and they both traveled with Bob Hope during the
USO shows us during the World War Two. So I
grew up in the show business ever since. I was

(19:35):
a kid on the West Side.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
And so I guess if your parents threatened you and
said we're going to send you off to the circus,
it was a real possibility for you.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
Right, absolutely, absolutely so every summer I was never home.
I was born and raised on the West Side, and
my mother and father owned a carnival and we traveled
throughout the state of West Virginia, mostly Ohio and Kentucky,
and went to school at alsin Catholic High school and

(20:04):
didn't know what my direction in life was. When I
was a senior, I didn't know what I wanted to do.
I played football at West Virginia State and got into
a reconditioning shop business. I don't know how I came
up with that idea, but I was the first in
West Virginia to do that. And what that means is
I would take a used car, use truck from a
car dealer, take it to my shop and clean it,

(20:27):
steam clean the engine, blax, a complete detail, you know,
detail shop exactly. And I was making a lot of
money and I quit college, and of course, three years later,
excuse me, three months later, after I dropped out of college,
I got drafted and spent a year in Vietnam as
a veteran and so really involved in helping veterans here

(20:50):
in West Virginia. I do that without announcing it too much.
And then from there I bought my first neighborhood bar,
the Anchor over on West Side, and it just like
snowballed into other clubs and I bought the old Customer Theater,
which I used to pay a quarter to go to
when I was a kid. And I remember one day

(21:11):
in the two way mirror office that I had, saying,
I can't believe that I bought this theater after going
to it, you know. So it just seems like God
blessed me and almost everything I did turned to gold.
And I used how I got in a promotion business
to answer your question is, while I was that part
of my life, I started getting phone calls for people

(21:33):
wanting to book bands, and I would tell them, I says,
I don't book bands, I hire them, you know at
Capital City Janbury, which I turned the theater into. Well,
actually I bought it from Jim Cunningham. He started it
and I bought it from him. Every Friday night was
top bluegrass axe from around the country, and every Saturday
night was country artists. And I had a lot of

(21:55):
people from he Hall and whoever whoever. I booked them.
And so I went to Ned Guthrie, who was the
president of the local Musicians Union here in Charleston, and
I asked myself, I'm getting a lot of calls I'm
booking bands. How can I get into that? He says,
What's very easy. You become a talent agency and you

(22:18):
signed the bands up as under exclusive contract and you'll
make a percentage on every time they play. That's what
I did, and I signed up about eighty two bands
and was making a lot of money and being in
the club business. From there, I bought another club, and
then I bought the King's Inn over on Patrick Street,
and I came up with a wild idea of having

(22:42):
Ladies Night on Tuesday night. And I thought, well, wherever
the ladies are, the mental come and we could get
fourteen hundred people in this place. And I sponsored eight
bowling teams over right across the street at the Bowling Alley,
and bands six nights a week. And something I did
never get away with nowadays is Coder Tile on Friday

(23:05):
and Saturday night. No blue jeans and no tennis shoes
anytime to get in. And of course I had the
monopoly on the club business during that time. The only
competition I had, and really wasn't a competition, it was
the growing twenties over on Hell Street. So that's how
my life started. And then I started promoting shows at

(23:26):
the theater that I owned, and then each stepped with
further and bigger ax from Kentucky Headhunters to Confederate Railroad,
all the Charlie Rich you name it. I've done over
five hundred major shows in the last fifty years. So
that's how I started in the promotion business.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
And eventually you kind of transition because you know, and
we'll talk about your book in a moment, Bill, but
I know you had relationships with people like Muhammad Ali
and Pete Rose that you brought to town. Talk about
some of those.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Yes, Well, how Muhammad Ali came out was Jerry, which
was a sergeant at the Charleston Police Department. They sponsored
the Golden Gloves here at Charleston, and he says, Bill,
it's a dying and we need a big promotion this
year to keep it above water. So I came up

(24:18):
with the idea of what do I need to do
to bring a lot of people to the Civic Center
and I I went out on a limb and said, well,
I'm going to bring Muhammad Ali here and everything everybody
thought I was crazy. I locked him in, told him

(24:38):
that we needed help here, and I went to WHS
this is a funny story about your station and John
Dickens sheets, which him and I became very good friends.
I love John. I said, Hey, how would you like
to sponsor Muhammad Ali? Being at the Golden Gloves. He says, well,
you're crazy. He says, you can't bring my Mohammad Ali here.

(25:01):
I said, John, have I ever misled you? He says,
I just don't believe you. So I said, Okay, you're
gonna will You're gonna be sorry. And of course I
did bring Muhammad al here Ali to the gold in
one year was this? Uh, this was probably eighty I'm
gonna say eighty six. Get a little older some of
my mind.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Yees I understood, understood eighty six. Okay, we'll go with that.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah and uh. And ever since then, every time John
Dickens see the Muhammed Ali's name would come up, all
he would do is bragg on Bill Bercoe's and listen,
he says, I'll never doubt Bill because he ever again,
if he tells you something, you can take it to
the bank.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
And I appreciate that with John. But so Ali came in.
And then the next thing I know, I get a
call from Dutch Miller in Huntington and he was a
big backer of the Golden Gloves with his car dealer
who was a big a fight fan. And he called me.
He says, listen, can you bring Ali down to Huntington

(26:07):
for the Golden Gloves like you did Charleston. And of
course I raised over thirty thousand dollars went to the
Golden Gloves, and I says, okay. So I met with
mister Miller and I says, I think we have a
good chance. So, making a long story short, I set
up a big one hundred dollars plate dinner fundraiser for

(26:28):
the Little Gloves and I had Ali locked in. And
not too long after that before I brought Ali down,
and this event happened. Buster Douglas knocked out Tyson in Japan, Tokyo,
and I got the bright idea, well, he's in Columbus.

(26:49):
I'll give him a call see if he'll could come over.
And I called and couldn't get him to the phone.
So the next day I called him again. I said, listen,
I have Muhammad Ali here and he wants to talk
to Buster. And uh, And I was sit fibbling a
little bit. I'm just a little bit.

Speaker 9 (27:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
You know, my mother always taught me, you know, it's
still a good to lie. But if you're going to lie,
tell a little phib that doesn't hurt anybody. I said, okay, Mom,
I'll remember that. So Buster got on the phone. I says,
I only be right back. I says, but he wants
you to come to the Golden Gloves. We'll raise a
lot of money. I says, uh uh. He says, well

(27:27):
you will, you come and get me. I'll send I'll
send a private jet over and get you. So, to
make a long story short, we got Buster, Douglas and
Ili in Huntington. It was a big, big event, a
lot of money to the Golden Gloves.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
And uh so, what kind of guy was only away
from the crowd.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
I was going to get into that. We we we
became such good friends that I would bring him in.
He said, Bill, whatever you want me to do. He
loved chocolate, chocolate cake, and we got to be so many.
He a lot of times with fly in and stay
at my house for two or three days. He loved
the state of West Virginia. A lot of stories in

(28:05):
my book about Ali and Tonny Hauntsecker, which was his
first professional opponent. That he would never charge me for
appearance of a show that I would do and fly
pay for his own way in. That's how close we became.
But very kind, great humanitarian. I always used to say,
Jimmy Carter probably wasn't the best president that we had,

(28:29):
but he was a great humanitarian. And Ali was the
same thing. And I remember one time we were flying
from here to Atlanta and we were on our way
down to Florida and he wouldn't get on the connecting
flight because there was kids still wanting autographs. I says, Ali,
we're going to miss the flight. He'd go like this
and taking it off. He he loved love kids, and

(28:55):
you know, him and I used to have a lot
of conversations about him not wanting to go into service.
I was going to ask you, have you been a
Vietnam veteran? Was that a sore spot for you? It
was in the beginning, and you know, I couldn't understand
why he wouldn't. I told him, I says Ali. A
lot of times we'd be in my living room and
be baby two o'clock in the morning, just him and I.

(29:17):
I says, Ali, you know, as a veteran, I've got
a bad taste in my mouth about you not going
into the service. I says, you're a big celebrity, You're
not going to go to Vietnam. You're gonna probably do
a tour of different bases and you know, goodwill tour
and promote the United States and the service. Uh So
we did have some back and forth on that, and

(29:37):
then I remember one morning, two in the morning, I say,
you know, all you did was run your mouth. He says,
you don't understand. There was one reason why I ran
my mouth, and he went like this to me, I
just can't see it, but I'm putting my fingers together. Money, money, money,
he says. The more I ran my mouth, more people
wanted to see my ass get kicked. So how did

(29:58):
you go from that into over the last couple of years.
When I first met you, you were doing you know
and still do rib Fast and things of that nature.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
So that just kind of goes along with the whole
promotions thing.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
I guess, right, Well, yeah, I've been told by my
agent and other people in the promotion business. You know,
you had Don King and Bob Aaron doing boxing. They're
noted for that, that's what they do. You have Jim
McMahon that does the rastling mince mcman. Yeah. Uh yeah,

(30:28):
it sounds like I'm bragging. I'm just stating the facts,
you know. I did boxing, I've done wrastling, I've done
arch and crafts. I've done sports shows, I've done music concerts.
You name the type of promotion and I've done it,
which I'm very proud of. So how the book came
about is my daughter, So Dad, you ought to you

(30:49):
want to write a book about this? And that's how
that got started. Where will the book be available? Is
it out now or the book is I'm holding it
in my hand as you can see it. We're gonna
I'm gonna be featured author of Headline Books the publishing
company at the West Virginia Book Show at the Charleston
Civic Center this Saturday, and I'll be they can get

(31:10):
the book there and I'll be signing the book from
probably nine thirty to five pm all day on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 4 (31:18):
And will it be available online or anything? That will
be available on Amazon? And I'm pretty sure my publisher
I talked to her yesterday. I think it'll be ready
to buy online by Saturday on Amazon.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Good Christmas. Give you know Danny Jones, who's another Charleston icon,
has got a book coming out too. Maybe you two
guests could get together and compare books.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
I wish I hadn't said that.

Speaker 10 (31:39):
I'll leave it at that.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
You leave it at that. Yeah, I'm not a big
fan of anymore.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
All right, we'll leave it at that, then, yes we will.
But both books will be very interesting reading.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
I'm sure he has a very a lot of stories
he's been in Charleston, have had held a lot of
different positions, So I'm supposed to be a good book
to read.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
True Confessions of a Bill Pocosey. I appreciate you being here,
good luck with the book, and we'll have you back on.
We'll talk soon because I want to get into some
more of these stories when we have more time.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
Well, I appreciate you having me and good Luck and
everybody come down to the Civiction And not only will
I be there, but be a lot of nice authors
and books that you can look at.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
And it's free friadmission, free admission. So they had the
used book sale going on there too. There's always something.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Going on there that they have that too. So it's
if you're a reader and you like books, that's the
place to.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
Be, all right. Bill Pocozy appreciated we going to take
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Gimfest over five hundred athletes are coming in for that's
here to talk about. It Tim brady from The Charleston
convention And Visitors Bureau good, Morning, Sarah welcome to the.

Speaker 14 (35:41):
Show good, Morning. Dave how are you this? MORNING i
am doing.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Fine let's first talk about the cycling. Event now we
knew how long are we uder? Contract how long do
we have this thing In.

Speaker 14 (35:49):
Charleston it was a five year, contract so we've got
three years left twenty, six twenty, seven and twenty, eight
which will be Another olympic qualifying.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Year all, Right and of course it was a very
successful event this past, year as it has been in years.
Past how many people give us the? Refresher? Approximately how
many people, came and more, importantly the economic impact of this.

Speaker 14 (36:09):
Thing, yeah we saw about twenty five hundred visitors overall
spectators though if you count locals and visitors, alike we
had upwards of twenty thousand people In charleston that, week, spectating,
eating drinking and enjoying the, race enjoying the city Of,
charleston and over seven million dollars in economic impact to our.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
City AND i mean again this is it just gets
bigger and better every. Year And, coach now we have
the dates for, that but as we move. Forward another
big announcement came out of that press converse the other.
Day we wrote about. It stories available on the. Website
we had it on air as. Well there's going to
be a, lot a lot of jumping around going on
talk about.

Speaker 14 (36:49):
It and we're not talking About Criss cross Or house Of. Pain, no,
no great.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
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Speaker 14 (36:58):
Listen the wide swat my cultural reference. Today we haven't
even gotten to the nineteen eighty Five bunkhouse. Damped but
it's Called gymnastics For all Gym. Fest it's a it's
an event under THE Usa gymnastics. Umbrella we're very excited about.
That it's ANOTHER Usa Olympic sports governing body that we
get to develop a relationship with and bring them To,

(37:20):
charleston bring their, athletes their, competitors their their coaches and
families To. Charleston we're talking about five hundred plus, athletes youth,
athletes and that means, mom, dad grandma and grandpa are.
Coming because this is a national championship, event it's a big.
Deal so you, know we're looking for a few thousand
people In charleston Next june during that. Event and again

(37:41):
the big thing for me and our organization is developing
again yet another relationship with A Usa sports governing.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Body and again you're gonna have these two events back
to back next. Week it's gonna be a busy time
in The Capital. City i'm, Sorry.

Speaker 14 (37:56):
It's going to be a Great june's going to be
a great. Month you know we're talking About you've got,
Cycling you've got gymnastics sandwiched in. There you'll also have,
festival and then you're leading Into. Brigada so From june Through,
July charleston is going to be hopping next summer and
it's a great time for folks to visit our. City

(38:18):
so we're excited to roll out the red carpet and
WELCOME Usa gymnastics and bring BACK usa.

Speaker 3 (38:23):
Cycling and on this gymnastics, Thing, tim how big is?
THIS i, mean we all know that, gymnastics so it's
been around forever and many people love it and kids
get involved in it and so on and so. Forth
but how big of a deal is it to have
this particular event come into The Capital.

Speaker 14 (38:35):
City, well it's a. Huge it's a huge deal for
a couple of. Reasons AND i want to preface this by,
saying just so everyone is, clear you're not going to
See Simone biles In, Charleston West virginia next. Summer but
what we do have is this is the. Pipeline so
when you watch The olympics or you watch gymnastics on
television and you see these athletes Like Simone, biles this
is the pipeline that got them to where they are.

(38:56):
Today so what you're going to see In charleston is
again these kids that are, young that are growing in the.
Sport they're In charleston to compete for a national. Championship
so again you're going to see kids that one day
you may see ON, tv maybe even as soon as
twenty twenty eight In Los angeles for The Olympic. Games but,
yeah it's a big deal because this is the. Pipeline

(39:18):
and AGAIN i can't stress enough it's another governing body
that we're developing relationships with and when they have a
good experience In, charleston they bring more events to us
and they also tell other sports about what a great host. City,
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Months, YEAH i, mean the holidays are a great time
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Speaker 2 (40:13):
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Speaker 14 (40:14):
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Speaker 3 (41:16):
Charleston and of course Next tuesday night we Got trick
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in capitalom would, Say, Tim, no you're busy right. NOW
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(41:38):
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Speaker 14 (41:42):
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Eight you're about the only person that can hang with
me on this. Stuff you realize, that, Right.

Speaker 14 (42:09):
Well, No Adam harris puts me to.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
Shame Adam harris is very good as. Well But, tim
we will talk again soon AND i appreciate. It, man
thanks a, lot all, Right, Dave thanks. Man Tim, Brady
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Evening i'll be broadcasting live from The Putnam career And
Technical center In eleanor for The Hometown Advantage Career. Fair
it's going to be a great event for job seekers
and those looking to hire people as. Well Putnam County
Development authority helping out with. This the event at The
Putnam career And Technical center On Roosevelt boulevard In eleanor

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from five to Light i'll be there broadcasting live five
to seven On Superstar country ninety six to ONE. Kws
and while you're over in that, area may want to
stop by and see you are a good friend of the.
Program Jim workman From wally And, whimpy's he's doing Another
wally And Whimpy's. Night this one is In. Winfield it'll
be at The subway In. Winfield wally And whimpy's of,
course The states premier sports. Publication jim is the president

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of The Western New Sports Writers, Association so he's got
an event going on with ticket giveaways and all kinds
of good stuff going on at The subway In. Winfield
that is coming up. Tonight texas snap is going to run,
out healthcare will become unaffordable for. Millions prices are going,
up food is becoming, unaffordable and farmers are losing their
benefits while the elites of the country are building, ballrooms dodging,

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taxes and sucking up corporate. Welfare pretty, sure there's historical
president for reactions against aristocratic abuses as a. Texture tex
Says dave not not another life of The, democrats that
this is A republican shut. Down House democrat Whip Catherine
clark said the quiet part out loud and, openly admitting

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that The democrats are intentionally inflicting pain on working families
to gain political. Leverage her words were, clear quote of,
course there will be families that are going to, suffer
but it is one of the few leverage items we have,
left And jimmy McCuskey talked about that earlier in quote
text continues are Holding american families hostage via demanding one
and a half trillion dollars in new partisan, spending including

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two hundred billion dollars on taxpayer funded health care for
illegal aliens and hundreds of billions for leftist media. Outlets
texas people love to Slander President trump as a draft.
Dodger newslash People Casius clay was also a draft dodger as,
well but he's beloved by all of. You wonder, Why tex,
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wrestling reference, Here AS i, said we do have a
lot of events going on in the. Area Next tuesday,
night all of our stations are going to be over
At Gomont ballpark for the Annual trick Or beat event
and three thousand kids that came through the gates last
year or two, sessions one five to seven the other
one starts at seven thirty.

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Three.

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Event but you do have to have your. Tickets get
those in events here at our offices eleven Eleven Virginia
street In. Charleston you will not be admitted without a.
Ticket so even though it's, free you got to have
a ticket for the head. Council come get your. Tickets
tracy is waiting on you as we speak right now out,
front and they're going. Quickly and even though it's a free,
event it's. Ticketed and if it sells, out if we

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say we got too, many we. Can't ain't got no
room for no, mole RIGHT. Tj that's.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Right you.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
KNOW i Think i'm going to go over and hand out,
lollipops and on the wrapper of the lollipop it's going
to say deficits are, bad you. Know rentally interesting. THING
i saw a thing on social media last night where
certain groups around the country are encouraging parents or homeowners
not to hand out, candy but the handout things that
because there could be a lot of impacts coming from

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the snap. Benefits hand out ramen noodles that was, actually
you know a, thing hand out. Soups my kids love ramen.
Noodles they we're probably like that more than they do the.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Proby, actually you get a lot.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Of tricker treaders at your, place you, know not really
not as many AS i would. Expect but we're out
with our, kids so we typically set the bowl out and,
say have a couple, pieces don't go, crazy and, honestly
kids abide by. That they don't take the whole. Bowl
surprises me. Sometimes all, right but you got on the show,
Today Shelley Moore capito coming up at ten o. Six
what in the world will we talk? About nothing like
anything is. Happening Jared halpern FROM dc ten Thirty. Hoppy

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it's Hoppy thursday at eleven o six blistream commentary for Mister.
Kerchival he didn't hold back About Senator Jim. Justice you
see WHERE i get? It, YEAH i got from your.
Dad he's an.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Example he sets the.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
Bar all, right they're coming up with a talk line
ten o. Six i'll be back with a manded later
today On Metro News. Midday till, then have fun and
love somebody.

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