11/05/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Millie Snider, Lance Wheeler and Duke Jordan

Dave talks with Millie Snider, Kanawha County Commissioner Lance Wheeler and Real Estate Developer Duke Jordan.

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on Go spend some time talking with real estate developer
Duke Jordan, very well known here in the Canal Valley area.

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Now he's got a plan for revitalization and it has
to do with getting people to come back to West
Virginia and also taking some investment chances with some vacant buildings.
It's pretty interesting read and Duke put that out a
couple of weeks ago, and I had a chance to
read this. My contact said, let's go in this a
little bit further. So We're going to talk to Duke

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about that. Coming up a little bit later on Knon
County Commissioner Lance Wheeler will stop by. The commission is
on record as opposing the prepare the proposed rate increase
that's being offered up by Mountaineer Gas. We'll talk to
Commissioner Lance Wheeler about that, plus some other things going
on in the world of commissions or commission I should say,
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zero four nine three five five zero zero waights, Welcome
into the show. Now our good friend Millie Snyder. How
you know a Millie?

Speaker 4 (02:40):
I'm doing so well. How are you?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I am doing fine. Thank you for being here.

Speaker 5 (02:45):
Chris.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Do you like this weather? Are you a fall winter.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
The fall person? I love it? Yeah, and yes, I so.
I didn't like summer. You know, usually I'm a sun worshiper.
I could not stand the heat this summer. Really, it
was just too oppressive.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I wonder what is different about the heat this summer
is supposed to in the past.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
I wish I could discuss it where I actually know
what I'm talking about. I got you, but it was
just very it was just too hot to be outside.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
See.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'm a fan of the what I would call the
transition time. I love spring, uh and I love fall.
But in this last couple of weeks, I mean, we
had some rain and whatnot, which we needed, but the uh,
but the colors are absolutely fantastic right now. I think
last weekends, what they said for most areas West Virginia

(03:32):
was the peak time in West Virginia. But getting up
this morning and it was a full moon last night,
and uh, I'm not one that really gets into all
that stuff that much, but I get up this morning
and I look out and it's a full moon and
leaves around the trees, and I love it. I just
love this time. But here now week and half from now,
I'll be over it because it's leaves will start to fall.
And but then we start thinking about Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
So well, I had a wonderful time setting my clocks
back on Saturday. I was just busier than to be
made sure I did it right, right right. I enjoyed that.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
I you know, I said this before.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I'm not I'm really not a fan of daylight savings.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, well I think I just don't.

Speaker 4 (04:09):
I don't know, I don't need it. I just I
just don't like it. But I do it. I have
to do it if I want to stay in time
with everybody. Yeah, but it's not a favorite. It's not
a favorite exercise.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, and I'll be And it's they're making it easier
and easier now because you know, well, I mean, because
so many of your things, like your phones and things
of that nature update automatically. My wife and I have
two vehicles. I have an older vehicle. Mine is not
update automatically. Hers does so, so we didn't have to
change clocks in her vehicle, but we did in mind.
So I just, I guess and I explained this to
the listeners earlier. MILLI I did morning radio, I mean

(04:42):
really morning radio.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
But three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Got up at three a m. For over twenty years. Uh,
and so it was dark when I left the house,
it was dark when I came home, you know, at night.
And I guess that just kind of trained me to say, yeah, whatever.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
I just you never even got up when the roosters
got up. You were up before that.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
At woke the rooster up. That's why I had to
call the rooster to wake him up. That's part of
morning radio. But Millie Snyder is here and I'm having
you on a little bit earlier than what we normally do.
We have we come on with us once a month
because you got something going on that you wanted to
tell people about, and you mentioned it last time. But
the time is nigh, as they say, and people don't

(05:19):
use the word nigh enough in our daily vocabulary.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
But go ahead, well, tomorrow we're having open meetings at
Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church. It's sixteen hundred Canall Boulevard at
Elizabeth Street. It's a wonderful location. And why we're having
open meetings is it is my wish to introduce as
many people as possible to this incredible way of eating,

(05:46):
the Mediterranean lifestyle. And by the way, I didn't write it,
but my goodness, I follow it, I live it, and
I love it. And I even said that in the
commercial that's running on your station, because I'm very happy
and proud to say that I just celebrated my eighty
third birthday and most people when age becomes a topic.

(06:09):
No one believes that I'm eighty three. I work and
do stuff and I don't work per se. But I
don't know where my energy comes from. But it has
to do with my quality of eating, and I'm grateful
for that, and I want more and more people to
find out that it's time to stop dieting. It's time

(06:31):
to stop counting calories. And if you're still counting calories,
your math skills have probably improved, but you're not learning
anything in terms of what to eat. And at an
open meeting, we'll tell you everything. We'll give you some information.
The early one is at ten am and the later

(06:52):
one is at five point thirty. There's no charge to
come to an open meeting. If you decide to join,
then there is a fee for joining, and there's a
weekly fee. But I'm happy to say from the beginning,
and I've been teaching Mediterranean now for nine years, the
prices remain the same. It's not about making money. It's
about an outreach to help people help themselves. And when

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I can accomplish that, I feel like I've done something
significant because I can't lose anybody's wait for them, as
no one can do that for me. I want to
empower you with the information so that you can order
differently in a restaurant, eat and shop the way you

(07:36):
have to for the betterment of your life. And thank
you for this article. We talked about it when I
was on two weeks ago. Here is a woman who
made it to one hundred and seventeen, and the whole
article is about the fact that and enjoyed good health
up to one hundred and seventeen. That's pretty remarkable. It

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is pretty remarkable, and they're going to be There be
so many people who are going to weigh in around
getting to that age. They don't want to, but you know,
that's one thing we don't control. The point of this
is that it strengthens your longevity, and that is strengthened
by a quality of your health. And your equality of

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your health is based on what you put in your
mouth and how you eat on a day to day basis.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
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Now that article, you and I talked about it last
time and I brought it in for you. It was

(08:43):
from the Wall Street Journal from a couple of weeks ago,
and it was about a woman who lived to be
one hundred and seventeen. And what I thought was interesting
about her story, in addition to the fact that she
lived to be one hundred and seventeen, was the fact
that for the last and I forget you've got the
article in front of the Africa, but I was like,
the last twenty or thirty years or so, she had
allowed medical professionals to study her. And you know she's

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because they obviously somebody lives to be you know, that
age and in good health up until the last year
of her life. She wanted to help others and she said, well,
and the medical professionals just said, hey, can we study you.
Can we see what it is that you did. Now
that's not to say if you do exactly the same
thing this woman did, that you're going to live to
be that long, because there's a lot of other factors

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that don't have to do with eating.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Don't know about her gene pool.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Exactly exactly right, but she because of where she lived,
it would be like I say, we've practiced the American diet, okay,
just because this is where we live. She that's what
that's the way people. It was Spain, right, that's primarily
where she lived was indent.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
There are many areas in that part of the world
that lived the blue zone, and the blue zone is
eating clean, fresh food, which is called the Mediterranean lifestyle,
plus socializing and having activity. But also they do not
buy processed food because none of it exists there. They
have to go to the market every couple of days.

(10:09):
They don't have ginormous freezers, refrigerators and so forth, so
they have to get fresh food and that becomes its
own way of life. We can do that here in
our United States. When you go to the supermarket, you
need to stay out of the middle aisles because that's
where all the processed food lives. We need to shop
the perimeter of the supermarket because that's where fresh food is.

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And then we need to learn how to read labels.
Our food producers are putting things in our food to
make it live much longer than it was intended to live.
And our body doesn't know how to handle those preservatives,
the chemicals that stretch the life of food, and that

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causes health problems. We need to do better for ourselves.
It's not what you know, Dave, it's what you do
with what you know. You know, you know, and I
really believe that, and a little bit of information, and
also coming to a group where you see other people
doing the same thing is very inspiring. And on the

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subject of being inspired, and I'll try to make this
as short as possible. I didn't want to join weight Watchers,
and I did because I was forced to join. It
was the best thing I ever did in my life
because it not only helped me lose weight, but it
educated me and so many people know what happened. I

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was fortunate to come to West Virginia to make Charleston
my home, and I did weight Watchers in West Virginia
for forty seven years. But in the early years, my
leader at weight Watchers invited my then husband, Harvey, and
I to go to Wilmington, Delaware to hear Gene Knightich speak.

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And Gene Knightich was the woman who was the founder
the creator of weight Watchers. And it was in that
auditorium as I sat and listened to her, I was
so awestruck. I knew then that that's what I wanted
to do as my life's mission, and I prayed that

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I would be as good as her, and I hope
that I have achieved that goal, because what I really
do is help people help themselves. I like to add
some humor and learning how to laugh at ourself in
a kind and giving way, which allows us to continue.

(12:43):
And so group support makes a big difference. And that's
why we want people to experience not only an open meeting,
but come on board for either a morning or an
evening session. And there are some wonderful people in the group.
Actually they're like everybody else. They're just eating a healthy
way the Mediterranean lifestyle.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
Tex says, listen to Millie, stop eating all this junk, sugar, salt,
fried stuff that's out there. I have liver disease. And
they're finding out that most people who are overweight due
because we eat so much junk. Amen, And you didn't
you didn't text that yourself. I'll bet watching it you
didn't text. But all right, give us the details on
the meetings tomorrow again the meetings, and of course open house,

(13:27):
I should say, it's not like open house. What do
you want to call it?

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Ten o'clock in the morning and five point thirty in
the evening. Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church right on the boulevard,
Right on the boulevard at Elizabeth Street, easy to find.
They have a wonderful parking lot. It's not going to
be a contest to park the car. And you don't
have to park in Dunbar and then walk over.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
And how long will the approximately how long will the
meetings last? In case people are planning their schedules or
they're coming.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
From work, probably the actual informational part will be about
thirty forty minutes.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
You can't beat that, yeah, I mean, and there's no charge.
And if you walk in and you say, hey, I
don't think this is for me, then no harm, no
fould Thank you.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
For coming, and we're going to give you some information.
You can take it home and think about it. If
you don't want to put it into use, that's okay too,
because fortunately we live in a free country and we
can make our own decisions.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Millie, good luck with everything tomorrow. We'll talk to you
again next month. Thanks a lot, Thank you so much
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you ever thought of making a food guide of healthy,
non processed food for our pets? A lot of shelf foods,
like human foods, caused long term damage like kidney and
liver problems. Give me thirty seves.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
As a matter of fact, I buy another brand of
food that is natural and doesn't have a lot of
the additives to it. And I would love to have
a conversation with someone so that I could discuss what
I've discussed.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Okay, all right, what's how can people reach you? Facebook?

Speaker 6 (15:32):
On Facebook?

Speaker 4 (15:32):
It's Mediterranean Mindset. We're on Facebook, and I would love
to have a conversation because listen, our pets are very
very important, and when we give them some additives in
the food, that's not good for them, just like it's
the same as human.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
As humans, all right, So the person text set, get
a hold of Milli Mediterranean Mindset my.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Website on the I think it's also shortened to medmind
Mediterranean is a long word, is can you.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Spell it differently every time you write it? So reach
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estate developer Duke Jordan's going to join us coming up
a little bit later on in the show. And Welcome
and now kenawh Aunt Commissioner Lance Wheeler, Good morning, sir,
Welcome to the show. Good morning, Dave, thanks for having me,
Thank you for being here. Let's get right to it.
The Commission has gone on record as formally opposing the
proposed rat increase from Mountaineer Gas. Now other lance, other
than the fact that no one likes to pay more

(18:44):
in out of their checkbook and their bills, we get that.
Why the need to go on record to oppose this.
What's the reason?

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Well, I think that we're getting a lot of constituents
calling into our office as elected officials, complaining that the
rates continue to go up and up and up, and
they feel that they don't have the proper representation as
a consumer advuracy from the PS that's supporting their position,
and that position is we keep paying and paying and paying,

(19:11):
But why are we keep paying more money in our utilities?
This is something that we can't afford. Our utility rates
are going up, inflation is going up. Things are more
and more expensive. It's time that somebody, and what that
somebody is is the Kennall County Commission is fighting for
the people of the state of West Virginia, not just
Kennall County, but everyone here in the state of West

(19:32):
Virginia and telling the PSC that they need to absolutely
oppose and reject this rate hike from Mountaineer Gas.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
What kind of.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Increases are we talking about, dollar wise, percentage wise, whoever
you want to quantify it. I mean, what kind of
rates are we talking about going up here?

Speaker 8 (19:47):
Well, Mountaineer Gas has asked the PSC to raise our
rates fifteen to twenty percent more than what you're paying now. Now,
the Knaal County Commission, we look back in the data
and we've noticed that since twenty twenty, Mountaineer Gas has
had a twenty eight percent increase on your bill. So
now we're talking about an extra almost twenty percent on
top of that. This is getting out of hand. Enough

(20:09):
is enough? I think that the voters, the constituents, the
citizens of West Virginia are getting rate hike fatigue, and
we're asking the question, when is enough? I think this
is something that the PSC needs to absolutely oppose and
fight for the people of West Present that they represent
and telling the Mountaineer Gas that you're going to have
to find in your own budget any of these this

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difference that you're coming to us because it's we're tired
of putting this on the backs of the citizens of
West Virginia and their utility bills.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
And look, you talk about utility rates and we have
the same discussion. We're talking about mounting their gas right now,
but we can just easily be talking about any of
the other utilities as well. I mean, they keep they
keep going up. And look, I understand cost of cost
of doing business. You know, I one hundred percent get that.
I'm a free market capitalist. Everybody knows that about me. However,

(21:01):
when the in many cases, and I'm not specifically picking
on Mountaineer Gas here because this may not apply to them,
but in many cases, when the the rates that are
going up are are so much higher than what many
people like yourself, like other advocacy groups have said that
they should be therein.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Lies the problem, Well, I think we're allows. The problem
right now is the Public Service Commission the PSC. I
think the voters, the citizens of West Virginia have lost
trust in they, you know, supporting and being an advocate
for them when it comes to utility companies asking for
a race. I think that what we need to do

(21:39):
is we need to have the PSC take accountability and
bring that trust back to the people of West Virginia
and ensuring that yes, there are market changes, there are
times where increases are necessary so that we can have
the infrastructure with our utilities, so that we can continue
to build on the energy grid here in in West Virginia.

(22:00):
But we need to do everything we possibly can to
put the trush back in. And that's why I'm actually
asking the state to look at reforming for the Public
Service Commission and looking at how other states are doing
this on regulation. You know, we look at other states
and per capita of their increases and utilities are nowhere
close to the increases that the people of West Virginia

(22:21):
are being affected by. So we need to have real reform.
We need to really look into why these increases are necessary,
and we need to say enough is enough. We need
to have people join the Kanaal County Commission, join my
office and telling the PSC that Mountaineer Gas needs to
be rejected for this new proposal of almost twenty percent
increase on their bills.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
And then the formal request, if you will, that you
put out there of the knagh County Commission put out there.
You talked about the profits that have been made.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
You know, that's one thing that we need to really
consider is we looked at back, and we've seen that
the from the Public Service Commission that Mountaineer Gas is
seeking a reprooval for forty four million in additional revenue.
But they've had increased profits of up to eleven point
four million in twenty twenty three to fourteen point three
million in twenty twenty four. These are this is data

(23:12):
that has provided publicly that Mountaineer Gas is having an
increase in profits. However, they're coming back to the people
of West Virginia and requesting that they pay more. Why
aren't these questions being publicly discussed. Why aren't the Why
aren't we looking at is this increase necessary for Mountaineer
Gas to continue to operate in their infrastructure or is

(23:35):
this just a way for them to continue to protect
their pockets and looking at how they can continue their revenues.
Why can't Mountaineer Gas from this increase that they're saying
is so necessary. Why can't they foot a little bit
of the bill instead of passing it on to the
citizens of West Virginia. Those are the questions that we're asking.
And again, I think this is coming down to when
I talk to people here in Kannall County in the

(23:57):
state of West Virginia. They've lost the trust in the
PSC and that's why we're asking everyone to join the
Kannak County Commission in opposing this rate hike from Mountaineer Gas.
And by doing so, you can call the West Virginia
Public Service Commission at their phone number three O four
three four zero zero three zero zero and tell them

(24:18):
that you stand with Commissioner Wheeler, Commissioner Slango, and Commissioner
Tenant and that you oppose the rate hike by Mountaineer Gas.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Give us that number again.

Speaker 8 (24:25):
That number is three oh four three four zero zero
three zero zero.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
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starts here and I do want to state for the
record from our part that, well, you don't want to
necessarily think that we are, you know, take it on
Mountaineer Gas. If anybody from the from the company would
like to come on this show, They're more than welcome
to come on. I mean I would. I would love
to have them on the show to explain it, to
give their side. And in all fairness, have you had
any conversation directly with the company, You or the other

(25:14):
commissioners had conversation directly with the company.

Speaker 8 (25:17):
In the prior years. Yes, And you know, I want
to say that as well. I'm not picking on Mountaineer
Gas there. What I'm picking on is the system that
we have here in Kennall County for an agency to
protect the consumers and ensuring that their bills are not
going up without you know, it's unreasonable from a company.

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And I think that we really need to overhaul the
system of how we protect our citizens and making sure
that their bills aren't going up and up and up.
That are unreasonable. So I think that's really what we
need to look at. We need to look at transparency.
We need to have it to where families deserve fairness
transparency from their utility providers and not have another rate
hike with that while companies are reporting profits. I think

(26:03):
this is something that we have to have discussions. We
have to have open discussions, and we really need just
to look at the system and realize how broken it
might be here in West Virginia and compare it to
how other states are doing it, and maybe take on
some of those policies.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
I don't want to, as I said, and we'll offer
equal air time for anybody from out in their gas
once come on to talk about it, But I obviously
don't want to sound like I'm a spokesperson for them.
But one when it comes to these utility rate hikes,
no matter what the utility is, one of the things
that you normally hear is the cost of doing business
and infrastructure. We have an aging state from not only
the people, but also from the infrastructure standpoint, and we've

(26:37):
seen numerous breakdowns along the line, and so that's probably
I mean, I'm going to say, that's probably one of
the things that they're going to say, is, look, we
got an aging infrastructure system. Things like your car, your
house or whatever is they get little age on it.
They don't perform like they used to. If that is
their argument, you would say, what, commissioner.

Speaker 8 (26:55):
They're reporting profits from twenty twenty three to twenty twenty
four that are increasing. The question that's come down to
is why is it necessary that we take these aging
infrastructure which they've had the responsibility of fixing in the
first place. Why is it the cost of this aging
infrastructure and providing this service of operation and maintenance. Why
are we fotting that bill one hundred percent on the

(27:16):
backs of the consumers, the citizens of West Virginia. The
question needs to really come down to is why is
it that these revenues continue to increase but that can't
be used for these proposed price increases. Whether it's the
natural gas going up. You know, I looked at the
numbers the other day and now might be wrong because

(27:37):
I'm not an expert, but natural gas is getting cheaper
and cheaper. You know, it's actually going down right now.
But they're saying that they need to increase your rates
and have you pay more because natural gas is more expensive.
You know, I don't know those details, but that's the
job of the PSC. The PC is there to ask questions,
and unfortunately we have a public of people here in

(27:58):
West Virginia who've lost their trust in the PSC. You
talk to anyone on the streets and they're going to
tell you, well, the PS is just going to give
them the increase. We've lost the trust. And that's not
what the PSC is about. The PSC should be somebody
that the public trusts that they're doing the job and
representing them and ensuring that they're not having an unreasonable
increase in their utility costs. And what we're seeing is

(28:20):
in the last five years, increase upon increase upon increase,
And I think that begs the question are we being
represented correctly to prevent unreasonable rate hikes from our utility companies?

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Quick textures for Lancey and those rate increased reviews. Did
you happen to notice how many of those have been
in late fall or winter? I mean, yes, there are
a lot of those. But you know, we get increases
all the time from utility companies, whether it's vegetation surcharge,
whether it's pipeline surve charge for building the pipeline service.

(28:54):
You know, we keep getting these surg charges because they'll
say that they're not actually raising your rate, but yet
your bill's going up because as they're adding another surg
charge upon another surcharge, it's like a fee. But what
what I'm.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
Questioning is why can't we have an open discussion of
is it necessary to have the backs of the consumers,
the citizens of West Virginia who's paying their bills, someone
fixed incomes, paying more and more in their bills for
operations that maybe Mountaineer Gas, maybe AP, maybe these other
utility companies can be paying for from the profits that

(29:25):
they're taking every single year, which are going up and up.
And that's public data. That's not something that we're thrown
out in thin air. This is numbers that's been provided
to the PSC. The PSC has these numbers that the
profits are going up and up every year. I'm asking
the question is if these necessary upgrades are so important,
why are we putting it on the backs of the

(29:47):
consumers who are paying more and more in their bills
every single year.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Come on, a County commissioner, Lance sweet or give me
about thirty seconds. I know that's hard, but about thirty seconds,
because we've got to move on about anything else that's
on your radar that you take a look at. As
we head into the fall months here, we're already there
heading the winter. Much anything else on your radar.

Speaker 8 (30:03):
As well, I just want to let's switch to something
good real quick. O the Canall County Commission. We're excited
to we're going to be having our trout released again
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them in the river themselves, which is always something that's

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you can obviously catch them later. And we're also going
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and Tornado and we're going to be stalking there as well.
So we're just going across the county doing great things,
putting smiles on kids' faces and having an ability to
share some memories with the kids by fishing, hair and
outdoors in West Virginia.

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he's been on the show, Duke Jordan. How you doing well, brother?

(33:58):
How you doing over there? I'm doing fine. Welcome to
the show. Now. You penned what I thought was a
pretty good piece again, and we're gonna break it down
because there were several points that were brought up in this,
but part of it was about getting people back to
West Virginia and once they're here investing in West Virginia.
What led you to want to write that piece that

(34:19):
you did.

Speaker 16 (34:20):
You know, being in real estate working for Berkshire Hathaway,
I'm all over the map here in the state and
just looking at I guess things that need to be
done or you know, I can't sell buildings or property.
Properties don't move unless there's new business coming into those properties,
especially in the commercial arena. New Court of course affected

(34:42):
some things down in the Mason County down in that area,
and there's a lot of anisllary type of businesses that
follow that. But I've always just I always believed that
we stand at a place here in West Virginia where
we could be the example to the rest of the
United States or be the light to the rest of
the na And I just I'm just trying to do
my part and just letting people know, hey, we want

(35:04):
you here, we need you here. We've got, you know,
folks like Chris Warner and just you know, shooting off
the hip here.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
But we've got people that will support.

Speaker 16 (35:14):
Small business in larger businesses here in state of West Virginia.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
So we've had a as you well know, Duke, we've
we've had a major issue in West Virginia over the years.
Number one. You know, we're the oldest state in the nation,
but we're losing population. And it's not just because of that.
Now certain areas of the state, and I talk about
this all the time, certain areas of the state. I
mean I live in I live in the heart of
Tays Valley, and it's exploding again just like it did

(35:43):
in the eighteen nineties. Okay, a lot of it is
new Core, you know, various other things going on, just
new Corp with other things too. Morgantown area, Eastern Panhandle,
But it seems there's far more and I'm not picking
on them, but there's far more McDowell counties. There's far
more more of these rural areas that people aren't necessarily
wanting to come into. How do we want to and

(36:05):
you're a Charleston guy, let's just take Charleston. How do
we get more people to want to come to those areas?

Speaker 16 (36:10):
So I think I said in that post talked about
things that are just moving into industrial sector. There's a
lot going on in the industrial sector and it data,
data centers and things like that. A lot of those
guys that are on the move, they're they're coming in here,
they're looking at us. You know, we could examples in
Berkshire with Forum Energy. Just different players out there that

(36:35):
are coming that I guess aren't talked about as much,
But there are folks that are on the move here
in the industrial sector. We've seen that, commercial warehousing, and
just the need for flat property, which is, you know,
we don't have a lot of flat property, but you

(36:56):
know we we're coal you know, our backgrounds in coal,
so we can move mountains and produce you know, it
creates some flat property.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
You know, we can indeed, you're urging, Duke would be
developers to buy some vacant buildings in Charleston Huntington market.
Why would you want people to take that chance?

Speaker 16 (37:15):
So everything that's on the market, and it doesn't matter
if I've got it or CBR or Real Corp or
uh you know, any any of the brokers out here.
It's all low hanging fruit right now. I mean, we're
at a twelve percent average on our cap rates where
the markets that I believe it's at an average of

(37:36):
eight to nine cap rate and basically has to return
on your money on an income cash flowing property. But
every if I had the money, I'd buy every darn
thing that's on the market in our in Charleston, in
Kanawha County because because it turns around, it will turn around.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
How would you put in those places? I mean, I
know that's I know that's not up to you. You
said you'd buy them, and obviously you'd want to leave
some renover whatever. But what but what what would you
see in a perfect world would you see moving into
those property?

Speaker 16 (38:05):
In a perfect world, I'd see I think some financial
some different uh sectors of business locating or relocating here
to Charleston. You know, there there's going to be some
people I think coming from New York here eventually, and
and and I won't say coming to Charleston, but I'd
love to get some people that are coming out of

(38:25):
New York that are not satisfied with things that are
or how things are going on up there.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Well, I mean, there's no reason why they couldn't come
to Charleston, you know. And and and one of the
reasons is is, you know, we've got this thing with
the New River Gorge, you know, being a national park.
Now we're not that far away. And and the younger folks,
especially okay, the ones that don't have as much gray
in their beard is what you you and I have? Okay,
They they they love experiences, you know, and and they love

(38:52):
this that work life balance is really important to them.
I can't that's a We've got a total foreign policy
to me, but but but but it is, it's very
important to them.

Speaker 16 (38:59):
We got that piece of it, right, I mean, the
tourism and the things. I think somebody just put in
a rail roller coaster up north. I mean, there are
those things that are happening, but we need the businesses.
And when I say businesses, maybe financial district or commodities
and a trading desk and things like that to follow.
I was with a gentleman the other day at the

(39:21):
hell House and he asked me, and he said, Duke,
what would you do with the and and he had it.
He said, what would you do with the billion dollars?

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Or what?

Speaker 16 (39:32):
How would a billion dollars be used here in Charleston?
And I said billion dollars for Charleston. I said, man,
that's that's West Virginia money right there. You know, we
could change the face of you know, we could do
some things with that went throughout West Virginia. But just
I think, what is it a sind the a send
program or something.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
They're paying people to move to West Virginia and Charleston's
part of that. Now there's several about five or six
or maybe more around the state Charleston and where you're
basically paying. Now there's a you know, there's a little
of a contract thing where you got to agree to
stay and so on and so forth. But I mean
there that was a big deal. And it was now
a few months ago and people were going to start
taking advantage of that soon. They already had they had,
I mean something like like all sorts of app We

(40:14):
talked to the people in the Charleston Airy Alliance, we
talked to me our good Ones office and others. We
had a ton of people that applied in the first
twenty four hours to come to West Virginia, to come
to Charleston.

Speaker 16 (40:23):
You know, there are so many people out there. And
I won't say like myself, but my dad was born
in nineteen sixteen. I was working at key Market when
I was or a grocery store when I was fifteen,
and I would have never have I would have probably
still been working at Kroger's or a grocery store if
I had not had gone to the Marine Corps. And

(40:44):
it just opened my eyes, you know, just different diversity,
cultures and just opened my eyes. And there's so many
people that don't get to see that now with the Internet,
and you know that I think they see that now.
But I guess folks my age, you know a lot
of people never left our borders or left their counties
in some cases, and you know, have always been you know,

(41:07):
they've always done what they've done. But I think we
just need to produce more opportunities here and let people
know that it's possible.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
How do we do that? And that's a good question.
I asked you to come on with answers.

Speaker 16 (41:21):
Man, I can't. I think you know, are this same
guy that was talking about a billion dollars, because at
the end of the day, it's not a black thing,
it's not a white thing. It's not a democratic or
Republican thing. You know, we were he was talking about
the trillion dollar triangle that exists out there. It's a

(41:42):
money thing. At the end of the day, it's a
money thing. And those with money and those that want
to see you know, you know, we've got to put
our gloves on and work hard, and you know, those
who want to help, we've got to come together and
drop the power piece and just come together and get
this thing right.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
I want to want to bring this up to you
real quick before we let you go. In your piece,
you recount what is now a famous story going I
think it was the nineteen forties or so, maybe fifties,
where officials from Charlotte came to Charleston to learn how
we how we did things back then because they wanted
to know Charleston was so was booming so much and

(42:24):
people from Charlotte came here to learn how we did
things in Charleston and took that back. That seems like
a foreign concept now talk about that quickly.

Speaker 16 (42:35):
Well, they moved forward, and we've always remained the same.
I think, you know, we missed we missed out on that. Personally,
this is just my personal opinion. I believe we should
have had a regional airport that decision and I was
too young to even you know, barely remember all of
that stuff. But anyway, I think we missed out on

(42:58):
getting a regional airport here, and I think that would
have opened our doors a little bit sooner. So uh,
but everything everything else has just kind of just remained
the same, and those in power have as always. It's
just things we've got to change. We've got we've got.
There has to be change, and that change can't come

(43:19):
unless the right you know, we're looking at the mall
right now that you know the whole group is, I
don't know what's going on there, and they're.

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Letting it sit, and they're letting it right. I'll call
it like it is.

Speaker 16 (43:30):
Okay, all right, you said that I didn't, so I'll
go a step feather. The city may look at we
need to do it, maybe an eminent domain on that.
I don't know if we can do that or not.

Speaker 12 (43:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
I don't know that we're there yet, you know, But
I mean, you know, I mean the city's hands are
kind of tied because it is a private property and
as long as you are keeping up and it's not
a health hazard, and it's not a whole lot of city.
In my opinion, you're more knowledgeable than I am, but in
my opinion, not a whole that city can do about it.

Speaker 16 (43:57):
I think there's some maybe some new federal code it
was about, you know, well, okay, but we have to
have some change there.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
All right, Well, let's do this. Let's have you back
on again. Go home and do some homework, and then
come back and let me know what that change is.

Speaker 16 (44:13):
I've got some things right now, but I just I
just don't need to target on my back.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Just yeah, I got you. Well, we'll talk again soon.
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Think of the shareholders? Commissioner Wheeler, have a phone call.
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(48:40):
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Speaker 3 (48:45):
Good morning, Dave yes, sir, I just got a thought
or whatnot towards that utility conversation you have. And yes, sir,
I know your property tax is majority of it goes
to school in my company anyway, So if I got
electricity to my garage, they would almost double my yearly

(49:09):
property tax when they come out in a sense. And
I'm just wondering that they're charging you, you know, property
tags because of you, you pay more. You know, if
you got property and they ain't got no utilities on it,
you're not gonna paign as much as if you get
utilities on it, right, Yeah, So if they're charging you
property taxes and increasing them because of the utilities, why

(49:32):
aren't they using some of that money at least for
upgrading the systems, helping the utility companies do that without
them having no you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Yeah, all right, I got a lot of text to
I appreciate your phone call, thanks a lot. It is
three minutes away from ten Tex says We're going to
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Speaker 18 (51:55):
We're talking to Shelley Moore Capito top of the show
ten oh six, we'll get into the shutdown, may even
talk the elections or two and David, I gotta tell you,
I think the race no one's looking at last night,
the most important race. What in Virginia? What New Jersey?
What in New York City? The Georgia Public Service Commission? Okay,
most important race last week. You're gonna explain why on
the show. I'll explain why, of.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Course you will. I'll be back later today with Metro News,
Middag and Flying Solo Today. Stick around for Meadows and
Wilson coming up on talk Line. We'll see you later today.
Until then, have fun. I Love Somebody