On this edition of the Dave Allen Show on 580 Live, Dave welcomes Rich the Realtor for a Thanksgiving-week conversation that starts with baked beans, Cornish hens, and green bean casserole — and quickly shifts into the real estate realities facing West Virginians. Rich breaks down the holiday market slowdown, highlights several Charleston and Putnam County listings, and explains contingencies, financing traps, and why young buyers struggle with debt-to-income barriers. The show then pivots to tax questions, 50-year mortgages, property ownership frustrations, and a lively segment with Greg Thomas on political recruiting, statehouse dysfunction, and the 2026 governor rumors swirling around Jim Justice and Patrick Morrissey. Small Business Saturday previews and Rick Cavender’s downtown shop-local push close out the hour.
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in the valleys. To take it easy on the interstates
or anywhere you may be driving. It looks like we
could have some heavy rain later in the day, maybe
in some thunder and lightning thrown in there as well.
As I mentioned this Saturday, Small Business Saturday across America,
and we'd like to encourage you to shop small when
you can. Rick Cavnor from Charleston Urban Works is going
to join us a little bit later on the show
to talk about that. Plus good friend of ours, Greg Thomas,
(02:50):
is going to be here as well. Let me welcome
to the show. Now another good friend. It's Rich the
realtor makes Realty. Hey doing man, Hey, good good morning,
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Are you ready for
your wife's famous bag beans. It's your favorite side dish. Well,
you know, I kind of go back and forth on
the side dishes. Tony, Tony, I'm sorry, Rich, Rich, Steve, Alice, whatever, youna.
(03:13):
But my wife does make the best big beans in
the world. And I have said this before. They are
it's kind of like it's like meat with a few
beanstone in it, because she does like the peppers, and
it's ground beef and and there's some beans in there.
And of course it's hot, because everything we make in
our house hot.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, So that's kind of almost a chili though, is
it not.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, it's chili esque. I guess it's it's in the family,
their cousins. They hang out at the reunion, right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Actually, she she told me this last week because it's
just just me and her for Thanksgiving and everything has
to be done by four to twenty five, and the
Cowboys beat the Chiefs, so everything's got to be done
by then, and means I have to have all the
dishes washed by then. That's what it means. We're not
actually doing Turkey this year. We are doing cornish hens.
From what I understand what I've been told, We're gonna
(04:07):
do corn, which is like how different? That's those are good.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I love them.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like having your own little individual turkey. Yeah and
uh and you get to eat it with your fingers. Yeah,
well I eat make beans with my fingers. Remember, remember,
I am from I am from Logan, So let's let's
keep that going. High Rich Surrealtor is here. He comes
in from time. What's your favorite Thanksgiving side?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Because I know you and the lovely Sarah are always
taking pictures and posting them on my line.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So I've always been a green bean cast role fan.
At please don't please, don't come at me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I was gonna say, you're the other guy, because green
bean cast role gets so much hate and I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I know, I like it and uh I used to
fight with my niece and nephews about it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Who's going to get the biggest portion and all that stuff.
I just I've always enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So uh. But Sarah makes so many good things too.
So she's got a homemade mac and cheese. You're a
cook too, I am. But thanks we do this together Thanksgiving.
We team up on this because we're hosting, so it's
a I'm kind of in charge.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Of the turkey.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I people, you haven't over in my lost track, and
why am I not one someone?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, you and ruth Aner are happy that we have
we have we have room for you, so come on over.
But we're not doing cornish to ten. We're doing turkeys, okay,
but I'm doing a dry Brian this year on the turkey.
I usually Brian the turkey, and this year I'm trying
to dry Brian. So okay, I'll let you know how
that go. Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I like the side dishes just as much as a turkey.
I mean, we've talked about my wife's baked beans. But
I will tell you I love dressing. Dressing is my
I mean dressing, stuffing, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
No glories and no not on Thanksgiving, not on Thanksgiving,
not loud all right, So we're not gonna turn this.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Into the food. Yeah, but what's what's going on in
the world of rich the real TI?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You have some properties you want to do, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I've got some listings I want to just talk about
to make sure everybody's aware and that you know, it's
kind of a different time of the year right now
where things are a little slower in real estate world
where people are talking turkeys and you know, holidays, and
I guess we're thirty days from Christmas already. Today is
twenty fifth. So but anyway, I've got some listings I
want to talk about. My newest listing is actually in
the South Hills. It's a beautiful little, not really little,
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twenty two hundred square feet or so in the South Hills.
It's a three level split homes. It's got some unique
characteristics about the home. It's located at one twenty eight
McGovern which is off of Hickory. So just take Hickory
off of one nineteen and then just a little bit
up the hill, go left on mcgovernin and you'll find this.
You'll find the science taking to the home. It's at
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the end of could Sacks, so it's got some privacy
back there. Beautiful overlooking deck into the woods. That's just
it'd be a great place to sit and have your
morning coffee or whatever that is what you like to
do in the morning. But it's three bedroom, one and
a half bath, Like I said, almost twenty two hundred
square feet. It's a newer roof on it, some fresh
paint throughout it's just really something.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To go see. So it's great neighborhood. Yeah, it's a
great neighborhood there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, two seventy four to nine on this house that
just hit the market recently, so love for you to
check that out. I've got the one in Windfield which
is one thirty four Waterside Cool. It's a beautiful home
for four bedroom, two and a half bath, all brick
and in a flat neighborhood in Windfield's one of the
Leslie Leslie neighborhoods there and it's listed at four ninety
(07:10):
nine nine.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's a beautiful home there. You should go and.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Check that out as well. Give me a call or
your real Turk course and we can get you in there.
Still have one in stone Gate Subdivision and Hurricane that
is kind of the older, one of the new, one
of the first ones to really build some of those
giant homes. And this house is eighty five hundred square
feet so takes a family to occupy that kind of
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a home. But it's listed at eight seventy four nine
and it's six bedrooms and five and a half baths
and sits on a full acre lot. I mean it
just has three wet bars and two kitchens, and it's something.
It's quite something to see. It's got it.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Sure that's not a restaurant, you know, it could be.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They have the two kitchen concept was kind of weird
for the current occupants and for me when I saw it.
But they, you know, they use one of them as
kind of a up kitchen and then they transfer things
to their service kitchen, which is out kind of in
the middle of the open so they can keep the
mess in the back.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And you know, that sounds like, because you're talking about
a number of people that you're entertaining for Thanksgiving, Rich,
that sounds like the kind of place would be perfect
for you. Well, yeah, it's a little big for just
Sarah and I, but you have a lot of guests
that we do a couple times a year.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So and then we have our friend's house in Rosehill
Acres in Scott Depot that's seventy five points out of
you that's under contract.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's kind of contingency on it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Those so still looking for you know, the right buyery
will still have time to get into that house at
the top of Rosehill Acres. This house is also Giants
fifty six hundred square feet, has six bedrooms and six baths.
It has a twenty three hundred square foot basement that
doesn't it's not included in the fifty six hundred. Has
a full gem down there in asauna. It's it's just
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immaculate down there, and just you can turn that part
of that basement into whatever you like. Has the pool
and just a beautiful home. Scott Depot for seventy nine
to nine. That house is listed for So I.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Want to go back to a term you use there
because a lot of times you do hear a lot
of terms in real estate contingency. What exactly does that mean?
Explain that to people.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So there are some built in contingencies in the contract
language for many options for buyers and sellers to for protection.
So you know, an easy contingency would be your financing contingency,
so that if you apply for your loan and for
some reason something happens, you know, God forbid you lose
a job, or if you change jobs, or if you
make a purchase during the process, realtors and lenders will
(09:35):
you know, have heart attacks. Don't do that if you've
entered into a any time after you have your pre approval.
We don't want you to enter into any kind of
credit or new credit or transfer of money because it
could change your debt income ratio. So the lenders will
lock you in based on what you tell them at
that time. But that contingency if you were to change jobs,
(09:57):
something happen and your financing doesn't get a proved and
that contingency allows you to cancel the contract without fault. Okay,
the same thing on if you're trying to buy a house.
The House of Rosa Lakers as an example. The buyers
have agreed to buy this house, but only if they
sell the house they're trying to sell. So they have
a contingency on this one to sell their house first,
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and if it doesn't sell, then they can cancel their contract.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
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Speaker 4 (10:34):
Because what you.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Don't know can hurt you, all right, So here's the
age old question. I know I've asked you this before,
but I'm gonna have you give me an answer to
it again, renting versus buying, because there are a lot
of younger people, and you know, here's what I hear
from a lot of younger people. I mean, I'm a
gen X guy. I guess you're technic your gen X too,
aren't you. I'm right on the border, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I still dangle my feet down.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay, all right, so but but you know, it used
to be people would say, well, the time you're and
I'm gonna throw out a it's an arbitrary age here.
By the time you're twenty five or twenty six, you
should be able to buy a home or maybe maybe thirty.
I'll just up ato thirty. That's what they used to say.
I hear from a lot of young people, though, that
have full time jobs, college educated or trade school educate. Well,
(11:22):
you know, they have an education of some sort that
say that there's no way that they could possibly buy
a house today because they're more expensive when you even
when you factor in everything, you know, as far as
inflation whatever, that they're more expensive now than what they
would have been twenty thirty years ago. To that you
would say to what young person.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think everybody's situation is slightly different. One of those.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
This is going to sound a little politically correct, but
to each it's not. It's not a one size fit
all scenarios. So I've sold homes to twenty year olds
who have their act together, have a solid job, have
a good work history, they're credit as solid, and they
can buy a house. I mean, that's just how that.
And then I've talked to thirty year olds who have
a hard time. Typically it comes down to your debt
(12:05):
to income ratio. But you know, renting can be an
option for some people. It might be the right thing
to do if you don't have a little bit of
a nest egg. If homeowners need to have a little
bit of a nest egg in case something happens through
the house, you know if you're and it does, trust me,
it does, so be prepared for that now it can
have You know, I'm not just a realtor. I'm you know,
(12:27):
I'm a dad and a grandfather, and I'm going to
give advice to my children that you know, if you
can get into a home, to buy a home, it's
it's still the best investment that you can make. Our
friend Travis would not agree, but we know, we know
that it is. And but you have to be able
to afford it. You could get into a homeownership and
then let that really bankrupt you, you know, if you're
(12:48):
not prepared for what could happen. So sometimes renting is
the right option for young people. I think sometimes the
younger folks are looking for they're a little afraid of
what's you know, the thirty year more can be and
commit to something what that seems like that's a long time,
even though they're probably not going to pay that thirty
year loan off the statistics say they want they're going
(13:08):
to sell the house, they're going to move on, they're
going to engage in another one, you know, and gosh,
they're talking about a fifty year loan now. So and
you know that comes up from time to time. Now too,
is what do I think about that? I'm like, you know,
it's an option. I would never recommend it, but it's
an option for people. And you know, so is the
eighty four month loan on a car. You know, it's
(13:30):
not the right financial decision, but it might be the
right option for.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That one person.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It was floated around, and I know you're limited what
you can say, and we're going to get you out
of here. But floating around a couple of weeks ago,
there was all this stuff and it was about fifty
year mortgages and things of that nature.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Is that's what I'm referring to you.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, But yeah, renting, renting can be the right area,
But a fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I would say no.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I mean, you say what you can well, I would
everybody has. I would tell you to talk to your
financial is fells to find the right place for you.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Get it all right?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We had a quick text here for you, says Dave,
what are richest views on this? Since we are homeowners
are basically renting our house and land because we must
pay property taxes, then shouldn't our government quote unquote landlords
be responsible for all repairs that may be done, especially
since many of us can't afford to do them ourselves anymore.
I mean, we subsidized new housing for others where their
tax dollars, why not have some backed us.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, so that's not a real estate question. I'm going
to pass on that.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But you know, I wouldn't disagree that when you're paying
property taxes forever on your home.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Do you ever actually out now own your home? You know,
so there's there is that angle of discussion.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
On that, all right. Where can people get a hold
of you?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, so I can be reached directly.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm at three oh four nine three two seven four
eight eight three oh four nine three two seven four
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Rich Climb the number sixty six, and that's Climb with
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All right, all right, and go stealers from you, go
Steelers and penguins, right, yeah, for sure, go penguins for sure.
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Well one of those is okay. The penguins are okay, yeah,
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that's why you have different opinions and why you have
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got an opinion or two. How you doing man, Good morning, sir,
doing well?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
How are you doing doing well? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm asking everybody one question before we get started. Favorite
Thanksgiving dish.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
If I'm at my mom's house, it's the noodles because
she makes the very good noodleska. And if if we're
cooking at our house, it's the dressing.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, but another dressing guy, it's me. It's it's it's
just as good of not better than the turkey, good dressing.
It is well.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
And we do we do too, right, we do we
do this, We do the inside the bird and out
okay out you know the variety pack for Thanksgiving dinner consumers.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I know you've got kids, all right, so how much
of the thanks Giving to your kids?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Can say?
Speaker 10 (19:03):
So?
Speaker 9 (19:03):
My daughter who's thirteen, he's eating like an adult since
she was like four.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Good and so like she and that's good on you.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Yeah, so she always has.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Well, I'm fifty.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
I'm fifty to fifty because my son eats like he's ten,
and he eats Liz if he is ten months old,
and he'll eat a bunch of rolls.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We had a bunch of rolls, and.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Then we'll probably have to like maybe maybe like a
little bit of mac and cheese. No turkey, no turkey,
no dressing, no mashed potatoes. Like he I've never never heard.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Of a kid that doesn't like mashed potatoes.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
He's a big eater of like certain things. Okay, it's
like you know what I mean. Yeah, there's just like
you know, he eats like a tea. I should I
say he's ten months. He eats like a teenager. It's
like pizza, cheeseburgers, now, you know what I mean. Like,
so he's a big eater, but he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's because I was starting to say, if all of
your giving him is like rolls and stuff like that,
this is how CPS gets involved.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Great, Okay, well we don't want to make you. He
does eat other things.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
He does not have an overly sophisticated palace. But my daughter,
she's like salad and salmon, like she's the whole deal.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't recall a time ever in my life that
I didn't eat everything.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean, there's like two food.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
There's like a couple of things that I remember not
liking as a kid that I like now that that happens.
And then there's a couple of things now Like every
once in a while, I get something where I'm like,
I really don't like Cranberyce.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I'm not a crane a huge fan, but I'm not.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same way, Like I don't
like if somebody like you have to.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do this, I would do it.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Yeah, Like if it's like I have the choice to
not make it and put it out there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'm not gonna make it the same. I mean, I'll
eat it if it's there, but I'm not a big fan.
All right, So what's on your mind, what's good to
what's what's keeping that mind active these days?
Speaker 9 (20:48):
You know, I've been been pretty busy the last few months,
you know, recruiting people to run for state legislature around
the state, essentially recruiting people to beat the people that
we elected last time, which is something you have to
do about every like decade. You're like, oh my gosh,
I made a mistake. H And there's always red flags
(21:10):
with those candidates, right, but you're like, you know somebody,
it'll be like, oh, I know her dad, or oh
I'm buddies with her. You know, I'm buddies with that guy,
and it'll be fine. I'll talk to him. It'll you know,
he's my buddy. We'll get him on the right path.
And when you're making those sort of justifications and excuses
like during the campaign, you pretty much should know that
(21:30):
it's not going to go well. And we were doing
a lot of that over the last couple of cycles.
And you know, you just got to find good people, right,
You got to find you know, if if the issues
you want to talk about or and see promoted our
job creation, infrastructure, you know, improvements to healthcare education. You've
(21:51):
got to find people that are that have a professional background,
that have a small business, that have a you know, lawyers, doctors,
I mean, and you sort of need all of that,
you know, you sort of need all that out there,
and that all of the different kinds of those those
types of people on the team, right and and we
(22:15):
and we sort of we had that a decade ago
when we first took over. You know, I ran you know,
most of the campaigns to take over the State Senate
back in twenty fourteen, and you know, and people stick
around for four years, six years, eight years, and then
they kind of move on and you know, and as
we kind of repopulated the super majority in the State Senate,
(22:36):
you know, the quality is the quantity increase, the quality decreased.
And so I think noubt. You know, the focus this
year has been, Hey, let's just really spend some time
going out and try to find some people that have
been you know, successful in their lives and you know,
asked them to come and be part of the team
to get things back on track.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It's interesting to me that we're having this discussion about
the Republican Party, Cause go back twenty years we were
having this discussion about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
It's what happens when you get total one party rule though, right,
Because then what's happened in West Virginia And you and
I have talked about this before.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I think we talked about it over.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
The summer, but you know, there's been three waves of
Democrats leaving the Democratic Party in West Virginia and becoming Republicans.
The first wave was around two thousand, right, it was like,
you know, kind of post Clinton al Gore. They were,
you know, the national Democrats were really starting to get
pretty extreme on climate change and some other issues like that,
(23:35):
and there were a good number of people that turned Republican.
Then you know, that's you know, we elected George Bush
we in West Virginia that year. You know, Shelim Moore
Capito was elected to the Congress. And then it was
sort of the next wave in like twenty ten. You know,
it was the Tea Party stuff. You know, Obama was
had Obamacare and the War on Cole and just you know,
(23:57):
this growth explosion in government, the size and scope of government,
the federal government, and you had a wave come over
then and then Trump came along, right and like you know,
fifteen sixteen, and you had some people turning Republican, but
it wasn't really a ton. The next wave actually came
during the during the Biden administration. And those are the
(24:23):
folks that you know, that's a lot of the current
Republican Party now, that last wave, a lot of the
folks that are vocal in this current legislature, a lot
of former Democrats. You know, these are big government, you know,
tax and spend sort of social socioeconomically, they're economic liberals, right,
(24:43):
they're Democrats, right. They they want a big government, they
want the handouts, they want the stuff like that. But
they're they the trans stuff, the boys and girls sports,
things like that that the National Democrats were pushing sort
of forced them out of the party, you know what
I mean. And so they've become Republicans. And so that's
(25:04):
why you saw over the last couple of years this
real focus on the social issues because all of the
new members of our party, that's what they cared about.
And what we didn't do was sort of make them
assimilate to small government, lower taxes. You know, personal responsibility.
And I think, you know now that the focus is
sort of a way. I think that this upcoming election
(25:27):
is going to be on the economy, right, I mean,
people are talking about that seems to be the key word, affordability,
you know, and what are the things that make things
more affordable, right like having a job, getting paid more
at your job, you know, having more jobs, you know,
and things like that will help those situations, you know,
you know, doing things to reduce consumer costs your food bill,
(25:48):
you know, your your grocery bill, your electric bill, your
gasoline bill, like those are things that help control costs.
And most of the ideas that these new Republicans and
I'm you know, I know, we don't have the video
they're quote using air quotes under Republicans here, you know,
they were focused on that stuff. And I think they're
you know, and they're trying to run campaigns around the
(26:11):
issues that happened in the last couple of cycles, you know,
And so I think that this upcoming election is going
to be about those issues. And that's fortuitous for those
of us that want to see change in Charleston because
that's the new group of you know, Republican candidates are
people that are going to be focused on those economic issues.
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about Jim Justice coming back to round for governor.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
I've heard that he definitely wants to do it, right,
I mean, I think he I don't think it's a
big surprise that he doesn't love DC. Right, Like, if
you're sort of that executive guy that really liked being governor,
that really you know, that has your own business all
of a sudden getting thrown over there and you're one
of one hundred, you know, he doesn't he didn't buy
(27:25):
a house in DC, right, He's still kind of commuting
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I mean, that's that's it.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
That would take a toll on a younger, you know,
more fit person, And so I think that's hard on him.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
But I think he really liked being governor too. I
think the I think.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
That the twist on it is just going to be
his age and health. Right, I mean, because he's not
overly young now and we're.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Talking you know a little over two years from now. Yeah,
it'll be a little while now.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Look, I say all that thinking that's what people said
about him when he got elected the first time as governor. Right,
you know, how long is his health gonna stand up?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well? Here he is going to DC.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Every day, and you know, and and Greg his tax
issues and issues of paying bills, and there was another
story that broke nationally over this and he's paying back
five million dollars. We ride about a WV mentronews dot com.
It doesn't seem to matter to people.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Look as long as he looked. West Virginians sent Jim
Justice to Washington, d C. To support Donald Trump's presidency.
And he's doing that. And so that's what they sent
him to do. That's what he's doing now. I say
that Trump is done in well, probably done in four years.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Don't get that started. I'm just saying it's I mean,
it's a thing.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
It's not you know, it's probably he's gonna run again,
probably probably.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
You know, he's just like stirring the podca.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
I don't, I don't. I mean, we don't. I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know. So, I mean,
I know he's not supposed to be able to.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Anyway. So why why are you the way you are? Anyway?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I think so when Trump's if and when Trump is gone,
I just don't. Justice doesn't like doing it anyway. He's
gonna like it even less, right, and so what does
I mean he has to run for reelection, right and
so between But as you said, there's a couple of years.
So look, if that election were today, Jim Justice would
win pretty you know, they gonna beat him by forty
(29:32):
or anything. But I mean he'd be between the two
of them, Yeah, between the two of them. It'd be
a pretty sign.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And then where do you factor Larry Pack and all this,
because well, look our Treasurer Larry Pack's.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Close to Jim Justice. I mean, if Jim Justice runs
for that, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I agree.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
They're on the same page of this stuff, and so
I think it you know, as of right now, it
looks like it'll be one or the other, you know,
but look, it's it's a couple of years, right And
it's not that you know, it's not that Morrissey's it's
it's not that he has low favorability.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I mean it's lower.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Than Justice, it's lower than Chilly Moore capitot or something.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But it's not like it's terrible.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
His unfavorabilities or his unfavorables are a little bit higher
than probably what you would want an early governor's to be.
But he's got a couple of years to you know, Look,
he goes in and gets some legislative wins either this
year or next year. You know, he can, he can.
I mean, it's not like it's it'll be competitive, you
know what I mean. I don't think it's going to
be anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And you know, raising funds for Patrick Morrisey has never
really been a problem.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
He's aggressive with it, you know, he's aggressive with it.
It's you know, probably the thing that he does best.
You know, he's aggressive with it. He's a hard campaigner.
You know, so I don't that's going to be competitive
either way. Well, I say it's competitive in a in
a one on one situation.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
You know.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Morrisey though, has found ways to get in these three
and four person races that he can pull off a
primary win. You know, so I think it'll be uh,
you know, but but look, you know, Morrisey's got time too.
I mean, you know, we didn't have a very good
legislative session past time. Morrisey had a pretty you know,
the legislative session was really bad because of the State Senate.
(31:09):
I mean, there's just no leadership there. It's an absolute clown.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Show, absolute clown show. Greg.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yes, that's that's that's pretty generous.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I was going to say that's pretty extremely well, I
think it's I think it's generous of a description of
how it is and is it Is it going to.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Get any better?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Not this site, not this time is a fault line.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Uh leadership, you know, it's it's uh, you know, Randy
Smith does not have control of the State Senate. Patricia
Record does, and that that dysfunction within the State Senate
leadership is what's caused you to have you know, uh,
you've got a bunch of either radicals or incompetence that
are in leadership, and uh, it's it's really it's terrible,
(31:50):
and each change badly, uh, you know, and then the
House of Delegates, you know, they're left in the situation
or just having to kill the bad stuff that comes
over from the Senate. We're hoping to see more kind
of positive you know, movement from some stuff out of
them this time to get you know, last time, it
was like, oh my gosh, we can go do all
this work to pass something and the Senate won't do
it anyway. You still got to go through the motions
(32:11):
with that, right, I mean, you've got to put that
good stuff over there and let them vote on it
one way or another. And so hopefully we'll see more
of that this time. You know, Morrissey had a pretty
modest agenda last time, which he got a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Of it passed.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
You know, so he had two or three things that
were that were real positive. But I think Morrissey's gonna
need a bigger agenda this time around.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
You know, you're hearing a lot of rumors of a
big time you know, tax bill. I don't know the
details of that at all. You hear different stuff, so
he'd orally don't know what to believe. But I think
that's you know, it looks like that's going to be
something that's going to be his big proposal, and uh,
you know, we'll see what he offers up.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Tex says, man, you almost get paid for every gop
MAGA talking point. Larry Pack will be justice and Morrissey
walking away. He actually has a brain.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Yeah, but Larry's not going to run against Justice. You know,
I'm looking at you know, those of us. You know,
Larry friends a close personal friend or Larry Pack's a
close personal friend of mine. I really like Larry Pack.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I'm for him.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Uh you know, I'm for Larry as much as you
can be for Larry. Uh, you know, I'm just you know,
it's just my perception of where, you know, it's sort
of my perception of kind of where this is going
to go.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Cake's done in the oven by way, Mike Meadows, not
my cake, Not my cake.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
TJ Meadows is in here, you know, do a little
work before talk line. Have you ever been on the radio.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Before, TJ. I'm just asking it's all good, it's good.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Way to wrap it up. Go ahead, give me, give
them another minute. What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Go ahead, Look, I think we've you know, next time
I come on, we can kind of get more into
the weeds on the specifics of the state legislative races. Uh.
You know, there's going to be a lot of competitive
races here locally in the couple House of Delegate races,
but definitely a bunch of state senate races. And give
us a little give us a quick preview. Go ahead,
and look, I think the you know, probably the one.
(33:55):
You've got a three way race with that uh, doctor
Steve Eschenou. Or you've got Kevin Bartlett, who was the
appointed state senator by Morrissey, who's a pastor in the
Sistemville area. Then you've got Lance Wheeler, the county commissioner here.
That'll be a real competitive one. But you know, I
think that's one that if you look at the background
for these guys, right, I mean you've got Eschenauer, who's
(34:15):
this like four time combat deployment veteran, He's decades of
public health experience. He's a small business owner with that
hunting preserve he has out there. You know, Bartlett's obviously
a pastor. He'll be focused on the social issue stuff.
And then Wheeler was a county commissioner. You know, I
don't I don't really know what his full time job was.
(34:36):
I guess his part time jobs being Silango's assistant for
the last six years, so that was something that he did.
So I guess we'll see, you know, and I think
that's one that you know, the social issue folks are
going to be for Bartlett, the former Democrat sort of
big government liberals will be for Wheeler. You know, he
took almost about half of the money that he praised
(34:56):
with some Democrat trial lawyers. And then Eschenouer will be
the one that gets the votes from people that are
focused on you know, jobs and infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
All right, well, let's have you on again soon because
we're just like scratching the surface here. Okay, sounds good, buddy,
Have a good Thanksgiving, Thank you sir. All Right, Greg Thomas,
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texts here and we'll get to. Rick Cavador, Tex says
Justice should introduce legislation as a senator to do away
with all taxes. If the sitting senator doesn't pay taxes,
(38:30):
why should anyone else? Tex says, we pay Congress ninety
three million, one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars a
year to do nothing but run for office. I don't
agree with Trump, but he's the only one doing anything
and he donates his salary, says a texture. Texas in
regards to favorite side, shocked that nobody ever says deviled
eggs are gone within five minutes at our house. Lol,
same at my house, U. Tex says, that's the difference.
(38:54):
Greg said Larry is a friend. TDS Meltdowner refused to
see the individual person behind the party. That's where the
problem is, says a texture. Is Greg recruiting Larry Pactor
run against Pat Morrissey, Well, I'll say he said he's
one hundred percent behind Larry Pack I will say that,
Tex says, Well, Tyson closed a beef planet in Nebraska.
(39:15):
That's good to devastate the local community. The closure definitely
isn't due to tariffs, immigrant snets, immigrant snatchings, or terrible
agricultural policies. Now it's most likely a ARC or Chuck
Schumer's fault. Stupid libs. They had a little sarcasm there.
How many of the clowns in the show did Greg
help get elected? Says a texture Tex says Wheeler is
Selango's assistant. Lol, Lance have must have hurt Greggy Pooh's feeling.
(39:39):
Somebody who never hurts anybody's feelings is our buddy. Rick
Cabinet from Charleston Nerdon Mars. I just have it on
goodca because.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You're good people. Well I appreciate that, so are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, don't tell anybody. I got a reputation, right all right?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
So how you doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Favorite favorite Thanksgiving side?
Speaker 15 (39:57):
Your favorite part of the me Deviled eggs? I think
that those are. I mean I could eat like eight
of them in a setting.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
My wife makes siracha deviled eggs.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
She would be my best friend. I need spy. If
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Speaker 15 (40:11):
We met ten years ago. You remember me or not,
But now that I know you, you make sir Devil Diggs.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So you're gonna be shown up at my house going, hey, Dave,
I remember I met you ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I borrowed a quarter. I just wanted to pay it
back in person. Yeah right right. We hung out looking
Fetteville during the leadership or something. They tell me.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't remember it all right, So Small Business Saturday.
Speaker 15 (40:32):
Yeah, it's coming up, I mean this time of year.
I was just while you were reading those that I
was just kind of like thinking about this whole year.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Of course you were.
Speaker 15 (40:39):
You were our announcer for Their Night Awards a couple
of weeks ago, and I was thinking about that and
sort of like looking back on the year and just realizing, like,
this is one of my favorite times a year, right,
because like finally things that they sort of slow down
right in some way.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
For us at least at the office.
Speaker 15 (40:53):
But but we also get this really awesome opportunity to
celebrate local business, like small business right with everything going
on downtown this coming weekend, between with the light show,
with l Like the Night, Holly Jolly Browley, everything else happening,
it's such a huge opportunity for folks. Thousands upon thousands
(41:13):
of people come into the urban core of Charleston to
enjoy these events. But there are a ton of really
great small businesses that are offering you know, products and
services the entire weekend, the entire.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Week all the time.
Speaker 15 (41:27):
But for these folks that may not ever really get
to come to Charleston, and don't they don't come often.
This is a perfect time to shine that spotlight on them.
This is just a great time of year. I genuinely
enjoy it. I know that's probably a nerdy of me.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But hey, look, look and and and I hear all
the time, and I know you hear this, and again
we're talking Rick Cabint from Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I hear this all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Rick.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
People will say, I would like to shop.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
In Charleston, but there's nothing here, and I want to say, uh,
w tf, I mean, are you serious?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Right now?
Speaker 15 (41:54):
I think I think that obviously I've thought a lot
about this, and I was just in a conversation the
other day. I mean, the situation with the Town Center
mall is obviously unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Right.
Speaker 15 (42:03):
I grew up going to that mall, worked in that mall.
Uh and I worked at Camelot Music. Oh yeah, that
was my first job.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I loved it. Yeah, but you know, I get it.
Speaker 15 (42:15):
And in the perception because of that, because there's you know,
several retail outlets in that in that mall, the perception
can be that there isn't a lot of quote a
lot of quote unquote shopping to do in downtown, but
there really is. There's a lot, a lot of really
great places, locally owned places. And that's the other thing
that you got to remember. And that's why we started
our passport card debit card program, is because we want
(42:36):
to not only shine a spotlight on all of these
really wonderful local businesses throughout our districts, but also remind
folks that anytime they're swiping that card in time, they're
spending money in these in the In this these local businesses,
they are they are promoting the local economy. They are
reinvesting back into in some small way every single time
(42:56):
they do that back into their local economy. So I
mean Small Business Saturday for me is a huge deal
because it's a perfect time for a lot of the
businesses participate. They've run a lot of specials, they do
a lot of really great stuff to get people in
their stores and their restaurants and their pubs, and I
think we should do all we can to support them.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You mentioned Charleston Urban Works in the Urban Nighte Awards.
We did a coupleanis to command thank you for the
opportunity fancy that Woody Woods and I have had a
ball doing that and it was it was great. I
mean it really really was. It was a packed house
there and to see everybody coming together like that to
celebrate these small businesses in Charleston and not just the businesses,
but I mean people that give back to the community
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things that it was awesome. I appreciate the opportunity. Hey,
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Cabinet for Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Here we're talking.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
About Small Business Saturday and we're talking about the Urban
Ide Awards. But great, great job on you in Lauren
and everybody putting that thing together a couple because it
was fun.
Speaker 15 (46:58):
Thank you, you know, it's great, and that really kind
of bleeds into our conversation about small Business Saturday. You know,
the reason we love doing that the verb Night Awards
so much is because it really is a perfect opportunity
to celebrate all the local business not all the local businesses,
but several of them and the people who make Charleston
you know what it is.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And you know, I think.
Speaker 15 (47:17):
That whole experience of the air Knight a ward sort
of encapsulates what we want to see happening every single
day on the streets in Charleston, right and what we
want to see happened this this coming Saturday, this weekend
downtown and all throughout the urban corp of Charleston is people.
You know, those cash registers ringing, those folks going into
the Kinship Goods and the one to eighteen, and you
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know the even like the bars, like a goat, you know,
stop in at the carpet, get a drink, stop in it, Sam,
stop in it, you know, Fife or Short Story, wherever,
Lee Street, wherever, and just you know, you know, get
a beer, get some food, you know, before on your
way home, you know, grab dinner or whatever the case
may be. Every time you do that, you are reinvesting
in the local economy. And there's there's no easier way
(48:01):
to do that. And whenever you're making your decision where
you want to eat, where you want to buy something,
especially this weekend, do it because there's a lot of
folks do on a lot of really great specials this weekend.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
And you know, people, and we can talk town Center
all we want to, and I've talked to I've been
doing this show for five and a half years now,
and at least once or twice a week something comes
up about the town Center, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Like you said, it was your first job.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I remember, you know, as a teenager, you know, in
the height of the days, you know, driving from from Logan,
you know, to the town Center. Yeah, but it's not
going to come back like it was before.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
Never.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
And but but I I guess my and I understand
it is sad, okay, but but I guess my. My
criticism of people that would be like, well, we don't
have shopping in Charleston. As I said, the town Center
wasn't shopping. I mean it was shopping in Charleston and
employed a lot of people. But that money, nine times
out of ten went somewhere else where, says it stays here.
Speaker 15 (48:52):
I should of course, yeah, yeah, obviously obviously, but yeah, no, no, yeah,
well and again, and so that's a really good example.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 15 (48:59):
I mean, there's you know, of course, we're always going
to promote the you know, shopping local and eating local,
actually locally owned places, right, but you know, there is
something to be said about the fact that the that
the even the chains that were in the Town Center Mall,
I mean those leaving.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I think the impact that that.
Speaker 15 (49:18):
Had is, you know, there are other sources of revenue
that that occur from any business that opens up in Charleston, right,
regardless if it's a chain or not. But our job
as an organization is to make sure that we are
shining the spotlight on the shopkeepers. I like, that's what
we always call them, the shopkeepers, right, that folks who
you know, they put their bootstraps on. They they're using
nothing but grit and hard work, elbow grease and making
(49:42):
something out of nothing. And we've seen so many some
of the folks that that you saw win awards at
the Erwinight Awards a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Ago, that those are those folks, that those are those folks.
Speaker 15 (49:51):
And the other interesting part the conversations I was having
with folks after the awards were not only was it
great excuse me to hear the stories like when were
you and what you were making the announcements about the
winners as they would go to stage. Not only was
it great to hear more about them, but it opened
my eyes to so many different places that I hadn't
even really been to yet. Like, oh, yeah, Bogies at
(50:11):
the Capitol Market. I got to go check that out. Right,
Like oh, Miss Ruby's Corner Market in the heart of
the West Side, you know, a grocery store right there
in the heart of the West Side. I got to
go check that out. It's so cool to learn about
this place. There's so many stories, yeah, that we can
tell about the hard work of people here in Charleston,
and and they're endless.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
The stories are endless.
Speaker 15 (50:31):
So again, going back to this weekend, small Business Saturday,
go out and support those those really interesting stories, right,
those stories of starting from nothing and becoming something by
swiping your card at the at the point of sale
when you go buy your next you know whatever, hammer
or drill.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
And how do people get those cards? Remind people, well,
I'm when I say card, I mean any car.
Speaker 15 (50:51):
Now, we're interested in our Passport Card program, which is
a fully shoped local initiative. If you become a member
at Element, Federal or Credit Union, you can opt to
get the Passport debit cards as your official debit card.
And when you have that card, anytime you shop in
our district. So right now, that's East and Westside. We've
also included downtown as a partnership with the DCA and
(51:13):
here soon we'll be adding all the Kanas City businesses
to that list because we've expanded to Kano City. Anytime
you swipe your card there, that's all you have to do,
is you shop there, you get two percent cash back
very purchase. So that doesn't sound like a lot, but
it adds up pretty quick. Absolutely, And you know that's
one of our one of our ways that we're trying
to incentivize folks to to keep their dollars here locally,
in shop local. So highly recommend you check it out.
(51:36):
You get our website Charleston nurveranworks dot org, click on
the passport card passport debit card link.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
It'll take an elements page and you can learn more
about it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
And again, you know, small business Saturday. There's so much
excitement going on in downtown Charleston over the next couple
of days because everybody, every once, everybody gets to their
Thanksgiving turkey and them, you know, Holly Jolly Brawley is
gonna get going. We got light the night over to Ballpark.
The Mayor, i think is going to write the light
Thechristmas Tree and the whole deal and and and then
we have the parade which is coming up next week.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Thanks, so yeah, okay, next to what, I can't remember
the day of the week. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
I think I think it's Thursday, Thursday, and so you
got that going on, and it's it's Christmas time in
the city it is. I will spare you, Rick and
I going into song on that. All right you okay?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Rick Cavanor, Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Appreciate you being here, and I promise, I promise the
next time my wife knows you, whether she's making for
Thanksgiving or not, I will get you some devil day
this all right, Rick Cavtor, Charleston Urban Works. I'll see
you later today. I'll metroduce Midday powered by Selango Law
with thirteen News and Tonight Live anchor Manda Bearon and
me coming.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Up on this show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Oh Tony the Taylor is going to be stopping by
the top of a little small talk, a little small business.
Sturday also can introduce you to some students at West
Virginia State University that are promoting music. All right, I
will see you later today. Till then, have fun and
love somebody.
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Thanksgiving Week hours. Of course, Tony is going to be
open today from ten am till six p m. And
Tomorrow ten till two. He'll be close Thanksgiving Day and
Black Friday. He would like to encourage everybody though to
come to Holly Jolly Brawly at City Center on Friday.
Of course, Tony is going to be open Saturday for
Small Business Saturday from ten to five for small businesses
and parking free in downtown Charleston on Saturday.
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If you need more.
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Information, visit Tony's Facebook page or check out Bestmaster Tailor
dot com. And I was talking to mister Parnzino earlier
in the morning and we were talking some things about
Small Business Saturday. Did not realize this, and Tony is
going to come on the show tomorrow that Tony the
Taylor was one of the first businesses, actually the first
business ever to participate in Small Business Saturday in Charleston.
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but I'm saying that's what he told me on the
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in the valleys. To take it easy on the interstates
or anywhere you may be driving. It looks like we
could have some heavy rain later in the day, maybe
in some thunder and lightning thrown in there as well.
As I mentioned this Saturday, Small Business Saturday across America,
and we'd like to encourage you to shop small when
you can. Rick Cavnor from Charleston Urban Works is going
to join us a little bit later on the show
to talk about that. Plus good friend of ours, Greg Thomas,
(02:50):
is going to be here as well. Let me welcome
to the show. Now another good friend. It's Rich the
realtor makes Realty. Hey doing man, Hey, good good morning,
Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. Are you ready for
your wife's famous bag beans. It's your favorite side dish. Well,
you know, I kind of go back and forth on
the side dishes. Tony, Tony, I'm sorry, Rich, Rich, Steve, Alice, whatever, youna.
(03:13):
But my wife does make the best big beans in
the world. And I have said this before. They are
it's kind of like it's like meat with a few
beanstone in it, because she does like the peppers, and
it's ground beef and and there's some beans in there.
And of course it's hot, because everything we make in
our house hot.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Yeah, So that's kind of almost a chili though, is
it not.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
No, it's chili esque. I guess it's it's in the family,
their cousins. They hang out at the reunion, right.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Actually, she she told me this last week because it's
just just me and her for Thanksgiving and everything has
to be done by four to twenty five, and the
Cowboys beat the Chiefs, so everything's got to be done
by then, and means I have to have all the
dishes washed by then. That's what it means. We're not
actually doing Turkey this year. We are doing cornish hens.
From what I understand what I've been told, We're gonna
(04:07):
do corn, which is like how different? That's those are good.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
I love them.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It's like having your own little individual turkey. Yeah and
uh and you get to eat it with your fingers. Yeah,
well I eat make beans with my fingers. Remember, remember,
I am from I am from Logan, So let's let's
keep that going. High Rich Surrealtor is here. He comes
in from time. What's your favorite Thanksgiving side?
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Is?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Because I know you and the lovely Sarah are always
taking pictures and posting them on my line.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
So I've always been a green bean cast role fan.
At please don't please, don't come at me.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
I was gonna say, you're the other guy, because green
bean cast role gets so much hate and I love it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
I know, I like it and uh I used to
fight with my niece and nephews about it.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Who's going to get the biggest portion and all that stuff.
I just I've always enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
So uh. But Sarah makes so many good things too.
So she's got a homemade mac and cheese. You're a
cook too, I am. But thanks we do this together Thanksgiving.
We team up on this because we're hosting, so it's
a I'm kind of in charge.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Of the turkey.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
I people, you haven't over in my lost track, and
why am I not one someone?
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Well, you and ruth Aner are happy that we have
we have we have room for you, so come on over.
But we're not doing cornish to ten. We're doing turkeys, okay,
but I'm doing a dry Brian this year on the turkey.
I usually Brian the turkey, and this year I'm trying
to dry Brian. So okay, I'll let you know how
that go. Sounds good.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I like the side dishes just as much as a turkey.
I mean, we've talked about my wife's baked beans. But
I will tell you I love dressing. Dressing is my
I mean dressing, stuffing, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
No glories and no not on Thanksgiving, not on Thanksgiving,
not loud all right, So we're not gonna turn this.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Into the food. Yeah, but what's what's going on in
the world of rich the real TI?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
You have some properties you want to do, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I've got some listings I want to just talk about
to make sure everybody's aware and that you know, it's
kind of a different time of the year right now
where things are a little slower in real estate world
where people are talking turkeys and you know, holidays, and
I guess we're thirty days from Christmas already. Today is
twenty fifth. So but anyway, I've got some listings I
want to talk about. My newest listing is actually in
the South Hills. It's a beautiful little, not really little,
(06:04):
twenty two hundred square feet or so in the South Hills.
It's a three level split homes. It's got some unique
characteristics about the home. It's located at one twenty eight
McGovern which is off of Hickory. So just take Hickory
off of one nineteen and then just a little bit
up the hill, go left on mcgovernin and you'll find this.
You'll find the science taking to the home. It's at
(06:25):
the end of could Sacks, so it's got some privacy
back there. Beautiful overlooking deck into the woods. That's just
it'd be a great place to sit and have your
morning coffee or whatever that is what you like to
do in the morning. But it's three bedroom, one and
a half bath, Like I said, almost twenty two hundred
square feet. It's a newer roof on it, some fresh
paint throughout it's just really something.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
To go see. So it's great neighborhood. Yeah, it's a
great neighborhood there.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Yeah, two seventy four to nine on this house that
just hit the market recently, so love for you to
check that out. I've got the one in Windfield which
is one thirty four Waterside Cool. It's a beautiful home
for four bedroom, two and a half bath, all brick
and in a flat neighborhood in Windfield's one of the
Leslie Leslie neighborhoods there and it's listed at four ninety
(07:10):
nine nine.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's a beautiful home there. You should go and.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Check that out as well. Give me a call or
your real Turk course and we can get you in there.
Still have one in stone Gate Subdivision and Hurricane that
is kind of the older, one of the new, one
of the first ones to really build some of those
giant homes. And this house is eighty five hundred square
feet so takes a family to occupy that kind of
(07:35):
a home. But it's listed at eight seventy four nine
and it's six bedrooms and five and a half baths
and sits on a full acre lot. I mean it
just has three wet bars and two kitchens, and it's something.
It's quite something to see. It's got it.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Sure that's not a restaurant, you know, it could be.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
They have the two kitchen concept was kind of weird
for the current occupants and for me when I saw it.
But they, you know, they use one of them as
kind of a up kitchen and then they transfer things
to their service kitchen, which is out kind of in
the middle of the open so they can keep the
mess in the back.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
And you know, that sounds like, because you're talking about
a number of people that you're entertaining for Thanksgiving, Rich,
that sounds like the kind of place would be perfect
for you. Well, yeah, it's a little big for just
Sarah and I, but you have a lot of guests
that we do a couple times a year.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
We'll do that.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
So and then we have our friend's house in Rosehill
Acres in Scott Depot that's seventy five points out of
you that's under contract.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It's kind of contingency on it.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Those so still looking for you know, the right buyery
will still have time to get into that house at
the top of Rosehill Acres. This house is also Giants
fifty six hundred square feet, has six bedrooms and six baths.
It has a twenty three hundred square foot basement that
doesn't it's not included in the fifty six hundred. Has
a full gem down there in asauna. It's it's just
(08:50):
immaculate down there, and just you can turn that part
of that basement into whatever you like. Has the pool
and just a beautiful home. Scott Depot for seventy nine
to nine. That house is listed for So I.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Want to go back to a term you use there
because a lot of times you do hear a lot
of terms in real estate contingency. What exactly does that mean?
Explain that to people.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
So there are some built in contingencies in the contract
language for many options for buyers and sellers to for protection.
So you know, an easy contingency would be your financing contingency,
so that if you apply for your loan and for
some reason something happens, you know, God forbid you lose
a job, or if you change jobs, or if you
make a purchase during the process, realtors and lenders will
(09:35):
you know, have heart attacks. Don't do that if you've
entered into a any time after you have your pre approval.
We don't want you to enter into any kind of
credit or new credit or transfer of money because it
could change your debt income ratio. So the lenders will
lock you in based on what you tell them at
that time. But that contingency if you were to change jobs,
(09:57):
something happen and your financing doesn't get a proved and
that contingency allows you to cancel the contract without fault. Okay,
the same thing on if you're trying to buy a house.
The House of Rosa Lakers as an example. The buyers
have agreed to buy this house, but only if they
sell the house they're trying to sell. So they have
a contingency on this one to sell their house first,
(10:18):
and if it doesn't sell, then they can cancel their contract.
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Speaker 4 (10:34):
Because what you.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Don't know can hurt you, all right, So here's the
age old question. I know I've asked you this before,
but I'm gonna have you give me an answer to
it again, renting versus buying, because there are a lot
of younger people, and you know, here's what I hear
from a lot of younger people. I mean, I'm a
gen X guy. I guess you're technic your gen X too,
aren't you. I'm right on the border, all right, so.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
I still dangle my feet down.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Okay, all right, so but but you know, it used
to be people would say, well, the time you're and
I'm gonna throw out a it's an arbitrary age here.
By the time you're twenty five or twenty six, you
should be able to buy a home or maybe maybe thirty.
I'll just up ato thirty. That's what they used to say.
I hear from a lot of young people, though, that
have full time jobs, college educated or trade school educate. Well,
(11:22):
you know, they have an education of some sort that
say that there's no way that they could possibly buy
a house today because they're more expensive when you even
when you factor in everything, you know, as far as
inflation whatever, that they're more expensive now than what they
would have been twenty thirty years ago. To that you
would say to what young person.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think everybody's situation is slightly different. One of those.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
This is going to sound a little politically correct, but
to each it's not. It's not a one size fit
all scenarios. So I've sold homes to twenty year olds
who have their act together, have a solid job, have
a good work history, they're credit as solid, and they
can buy a house. I mean, that's just how that.
And then I've talked to thirty year olds who have
a hard time. Typically it comes down to your debt
(12:05):
to income ratio. But you know, renting can be an
option for some people. It might be the right thing
to do if you don't have a little bit of
a nest egg. If homeowners need to have a little
bit of a nest egg in case something happens through
the house, you know if you're and it does, trust me,
it does, so be prepared for that now it can
have You know, I'm not just a realtor. I'm you know,
(12:27):
I'm a dad and a grandfather, and I'm going to
give advice to my children that you know, if you
can get into a home, to buy a home, it's
it's still the best investment that you can make. Our
friend Travis would not agree, but we know, we know
that it is. And but you have to be able
to afford it. You could get into a homeownership and
then let that really bankrupt you, you know, if you're
(12:48):
not prepared for what could happen. So sometimes renting is
the right option for young people. I think sometimes the
younger folks are looking for they're a little afraid of
what's you know, the thirty year more can be and
commit to something what that seems like that's a long time,
even though they're probably not going to pay that thirty
year loan off the statistics say they want they're going
(13:08):
to sell the house, they're going to move on, they're
going to engage in another one, you know, and gosh,
they're talking about a fifty year loan now. So and
you know that comes up from time to time. Now too,
is what do I think about that? I'm like, you know,
it's an option. I would never recommend it, but it's
an option for people. And you know, so is the
eighty four month loan on a car. You know, it's
(13:30):
not the right financial decision, but it might be the
right option for.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
That one person.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It was floated around, and I know you're limited what
you can say, and we're going to get you out
of here. But floating around a couple of weeks ago,
there was all this stuff and it was about fifty
year mortgages and things of that nature.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Is that's what I'm referring to you.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
Okay, But yeah, renting, renting can be the right area,
But a fifty year mortgage.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
I would say no.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I mean, you say what you can well, I would
everybody has. I would tell you to talk to your
financial is fells to find the right place for you.
Speaker 4 (14:02):
Get it all right?
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We had a quick text here for you, says Dave,
what are richest views on this? Since we are homeowners
are basically renting our house and land because we must
pay property taxes, then shouldn't our government quote unquote landlords
be responsible for all repairs that may be done, especially
since many of us can't afford to do them ourselves anymore.
I mean, we subsidized new housing for others where their
tax dollars, why not have some backed us.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Yeah, so that's not a real estate question. I'm going
to pass on that.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But you know, I wouldn't disagree that when you're paying
property taxes forever on your home.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Do you ever actually out now own your home? You know,
so there's there is that angle of discussion.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
On that, all right. Where can people get a hold
of you?
Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, so I can be reached directly.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm at three oh four nine three two seven four
eight eight three oh four nine three two seven four
eight eight where you can get me an email A
Rich Climb the number sixty six, and that's Climb with
a K number sixty six at.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
Gmail dot com.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
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Speaker 4 (15:00):
All right, all right, and go stealers from you, go
Steelers and penguins, right, yeah, for sure, go penguins for sure.
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doing well?
Speaker 6 (18:21):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
How are you doing doing well? Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 9 (18:24):
Thanksgiving to you.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
I'm asking everybody one question before we get started. Favorite
Thanksgiving dish.
Speaker 9 (18:31):
If I'm at my mom's house, it's the noodles because
she makes the very good noodleska. And if if we're
cooking at our house, it's the dressing.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Okay, but another dressing guy, it's me. It's it's it's
just as good of not better than the turkey, good dressing.
It is well.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
And we do we do too, right, we do we
do this, We do the inside the bird and out
okay out you know the variety pack for Thanksgiving dinner consumers.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
I know you've got kids, all right, so how much
of the thanks Giving to your kids?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Can say?
Speaker 10 (19:03):
So?
Speaker 9 (19:03):
My daughter who's thirteen, he's eating like an adult since
she was like four.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Good and so like she and that's good on you.
Speaker 9 (19:10):
Yeah, so she always has.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Well, I'm fifty.
Speaker 9 (19:14):
I'm fifty to fifty because my son eats like he's ten,
and he eats Liz if he is ten months old,
and he'll eat a bunch of rolls.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
We had a bunch of rolls, and.
Speaker 9 (19:26):
Then we'll probably have to like maybe maybe like a
little bit of mac and cheese. No turkey, no turkey,
no dressing, no mashed potatoes. Like he I've never never heard.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Of a kid that doesn't like mashed potatoes.
Speaker 9 (19:37):
He's a big eater of like certain things. Okay, it's
like you know what I mean. Yeah, there's just like
you know, he eats like a tea. I should I
say he's ten months. He eats like a teenager. It's
like pizza, cheeseburgers, now, you know what I mean. Like,
so he's a big eater, but he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
It's because I was starting to say, if all of
your giving him is like rolls and stuff like that,
this is how CPS gets involved.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Great, Okay, well we don't want to make you. He
does eat other things.
Speaker 9 (20:01):
He does not have an overly sophisticated palace. But my daughter,
she's like salad and salmon, like she's the whole deal.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
I don't recall a time ever in my life that
I didn't eat everything.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
I mean, there's like two food.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
There's like a couple of things that I remember not
liking as a kid that I like now that that happens.
And then there's a couple of things now Like every
once in a while, I get something where I'm like,
I really don't like Cranberyce.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I'm not a crane a huge fan, but I'm not.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
Yeah, I'm kind of the same way, Like I don't
like if somebody like you have to.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Do this, I would do it.
Speaker 9 (20:36):
Yeah, Like if it's like I have the choice to
not make it and put it out there.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I'm not gonna make it the same. I mean, I'll
eat it if it's there, but I'm not a big fan.
All right, So what's on your mind, what's good to
what's what's keeping that mind active these days?
Speaker 9 (20:48):
You know, I've been been pretty busy the last few months,
you know, recruiting people to run for state legislature around
the state, essentially recruiting people to beat the people that
we elected last time, which is something you have to
do about every like decade. You're like, oh my gosh,
I made a mistake. H And there's always red flags
(21:10):
with those candidates, right, but you're like, you know somebody,
it'll be like, oh, I know her dad, or oh
I'm buddies with her. You know, I'm buddies with that guy,
and it'll be fine. I'll talk to him. It'll you know,
he's my buddy. We'll get him on the right path.
And when you're making those sort of justifications and excuses
like during the campaign, you pretty much should know that
(21:30):
it's not going to go well. And we were doing
a lot of that over the last couple of cycles.
And you know, you just got to find good people, right,
You got to find you know, if if the issues
you want to talk about or and see promoted our
job creation, infrastructure, you know, improvements to healthcare education. You've
(21:51):
got to find people that are that have a professional background,
that have a small business, that have a you know, lawyers, doctors,
I mean, and you sort of need all of that,
you know, you sort of need all that out there,
and that all of the different kinds of those those
types of people on the team, right and and we
(22:15):
and we sort of we had that a decade ago
when we first took over. You know, I ran you know,
most of the campaigns to take over the State Senate
back in twenty fourteen, and you know, and people stick
around for four years, six years, eight years, and then
they kind of move on and you know, and as
we kind of repopulated the super majority in the State Senate,
(22:36):
you know, the quality is the quantity increase, the quality decreased.
And so I think noubt. You know, the focus this
year has been, Hey, let's just really spend some time
going out and try to find some people that have
been you know, successful in their lives and you know,
asked them to come and be part of the team
to get things back on track.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
It's interesting to me that we're having this discussion about
the Republican Party, Cause go back twenty years we were
having this discussion about the Democratic Party.
Speaker 9 (23:04):
It's what happens when you get total one party rule though, right,
Because then what's happened in West Virginia And you and
I have talked about this before.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
I think we talked about it over.
Speaker 9 (23:13):
The summer, but you know, there's been three waves of
Democrats leaving the Democratic Party in West Virginia and becoming Republicans.
The first wave was around two thousand, right, it was like,
you know, kind of post Clinton al Gore. They were,
you know, the national Democrats were really starting to get
pretty extreme on climate change and some other issues like that,
(23:35):
and there were a good number of people that turned Republican.
Then you know, that's you know, we elected George Bush
we in West Virginia that year. You know, Shelim Moore
Capito was elected to the Congress. And then it was
sort of the next wave in like twenty ten. You know,
it was the Tea Party stuff. You know, Obama was
had Obamacare and the War on Cole and just you know,
(23:57):
this growth explosion in government, the size and scope of government,
the federal government, and you had a wave come over
then and then Trump came along, right and like you know,
fifteen sixteen, and you had some people turning Republican, but
it wasn't really a ton. The next wave actually came
during the during the Biden administration. And those are the
(24:23):
folks that you know, that's a lot of the current
Republican Party now, that last wave, a lot of the
folks that are vocal in this current legislature, a lot
of former Democrats. You know, these are big government, you know,
tax and spend sort of social socioeconomically, they're economic liberals, right,
(24:43):
they're Democrats, right. They they want a big government, they
want the handouts, they want the stuff like that. But
they're they the trans stuff, the boys and girls sports,
things like that that the National Democrats were pushing sort
of forced them out of the party, you know what
I mean. And so they've become Republicans. And so that's
(25:04):
why you saw over the last couple of years this
real focus on the social issues because all of the
new members of our party, that's what they cared about.
And what we didn't do was sort of make them
assimilate to small government, lower taxes. You know, personal responsibility.
And I think, you know now that the focus is
sort of a way. I think that this upcoming election
(25:27):
is going to be on the economy, right, I mean,
people are talking about that seems to be the key word, affordability,
you know, and what are the things that make things
more affordable, right like having a job, getting paid more
at your job, you know, having more jobs, you know,
and things like that will help those situations, you know,
you know, doing things to reduce consumer costs your food bill,
(25:48):
you know, your your grocery bill, your electric bill, your
gasoline bill, like those are things that help control costs.
And most of the ideas that these new Republicans and
I'm you know, I know, we don't have the video
they're quote using air quotes under Republicans here, you know,
they were focused on that stuff. And I think they're
you know, and they're trying to run campaigns around the
(26:11):
issues that happened in the last couple of cycles, you know,
And so I think that this upcoming election is going
to be about those issues. And that's fortuitous for those
of us that want to see change in Charleston because
that's the new group of you know, Republican candidates are
people that are going to be focused on those economic issues.
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about Jim Justice coming back to round for governor.
Speaker 9 (27:03):
I've heard that he definitely wants to do it, right,
I mean, I think he I don't think it's a
big surprise that he doesn't love DC. Right, Like, if
you're sort of that executive guy that really liked being governor,
that really you know, that has your own business all
of a sudden getting thrown over there and you're one
of one hundred, you know, he doesn't he didn't buy
(27:25):
a house in DC, right, He's still kind of commuting
back and forth.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
I mean, that's that's it.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
That would take a toll on a younger, you know,
more fit person, And so I think that's hard on him.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
But I think he really liked being governor too. I
think the I think.
Speaker 9 (27:43):
That the twist on it is just going to be
his age and health. Right, I mean, because he's not
overly young now and we're.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Talking you know a little over two years from now. Yeah,
it'll be a little while now.
Speaker 9 (27:56):
Look, I say all that thinking that's what people said
about him when he got elected the first time as governor. Right,
you know, how long is his health gonna stand up?
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well? Here he is going to DC.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Every day, and you know, and and Greg his tax
issues and issues of paying bills, and there was another
story that broke nationally over this and he's paying back
five million dollars. We ride about a WV mentronews dot com.
It doesn't seem to matter to people.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
Look as long as he looked. West Virginians sent Jim
Justice to Washington, d C. To support Donald Trump's presidency.
And he's doing that. And so that's what they sent
him to do. That's what he's doing now. I say
that Trump is done in well, probably done in four years.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Don't get that started. I'm just saying it's I mean,
it's a thing.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
It's not you know, it's probably he's gonna run again,
probably probably.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
You know, he's just like stirring the podca.
Speaker 9 (28:50):
I don't, I don't. I mean, we don't. I don't know.
I don't know. I mean, I don't know. So, I mean,
I know he's not supposed to be able to.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Anyway. So why why are you the way you are? Anyway?
Speaker 9 (29:09):
I think so when Trump's if and when Trump is gone,
I just don't. Justice doesn't like doing it anyway. He's
gonna like it even less, right, and so what does
I mean he has to run for reelection, right and
so between But as you said, there's a couple of years.
So look, if that election were today, Jim Justice would
win pretty you know, they gonna beat him by forty
(29:32):
or anything. But I mean he'd be between the two
of them, Yeah, between the two of them. It'd be
a pretty sign.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And then where do you factor Larry Pack and all this,
because well, look our Treasurer Larry Pack's.
Speaker 9 (29:41):
Close to Jim Justice. I mean, if Jim Justice runs
for that, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I agree.
Speaker 9 (29:46):
They're on the same page of this stuff, and so
I think it you know, as of right now, it
looks like it'll be one or the other, you know,
but look, it's it's a couple of years, right And
it's not that you know, it's not that Morrissey's it's
it's not that he has low favorability.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
I mean it's lower.
Speaker 9 (30:02):
Than Justice, it's lower than Chilly Moore capitot or something.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
But it's not like it's terrible.
Speaker 9 (30:07):
His unfavorabilities or his unfavorables are a little bit higher
than probably what you would want an early governor's to be.
But he's got a couple of years to you know, Look,
he goes in and gets some legislative wins either this
year or next year. You know, he can, he can.
I mean, it's not like it's it'll be competitive, you
know what I mean. I don't think it's going to
be anything like that.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
And you know, raising funds for Patrick Morrisey has never
really been a problem.
Speaker 9 (30:31):
He's aggressive with it, you know, he's aggressive with it.
It's you know, probably the thing that he does best.
You know, he's aggressive with it. He's a hard campaigner.
You know, so I don't that's going to be competitive
either way. Well, I say it's competitive in a in
a one on one situation.
Speaker 11 (30:47):
You know.
Speaker 9 (30:48):
Morrisey though, has found ways to get in these three
and four person races that he can pull off a
primary win. You know, so I think it'll be uh,
you know, but but look, you know, Morrisey's got time too.
I mean, you know, we didn't have a very good
legislative session past time. Morrisey had a pretty you know,
the legislative session was really bad because of the State Senate.
(31:09):
I mean, there's just no leadership there. It's an absolute clown.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Show, absolute clown show. Greg.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yes, that's that's that's pretty generous.
Speaker 9 (31:18):
I was going to say that's pretty extremely well, I
think it's I think it's generous of a description of
how it is and is it Is it going to.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Get any better?
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Not this site, not this time is a fault line.
Speaker 9 (31:29):
Uh leadership, you know, it's it's uh, you know, Randy
Smith does not have control of the State Senate. Patricia
Record does, and that that dysfunction within the State Senate
leadership is what's caused you to have you know, uh,
you've got a bunch of either radicals or incompetence that
are in leadership, and uh, it's it's really it's terrible,
(31:50):
and each change badly, uh, you know, and then the
House of Delegates, you know, they're left in the situation
or just having to kill the bad stuff that comes
over from the Senate. We're hoping to see more kind
of positive you know, movement from some stuff out of
them this time to get you know, last time, it
was like, oh my gosh, we can go do all
this work to pass something and the Senate won't do
it anyway. You still got to go through the motions
(32:11):
with that, right, I mean, you've got to put that
good stuff over there and let them vote on it
one way or another. And so hopefully we'll see more
of that this time. You know, Morrissey had a pretty
modest agenda last time, which he got a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Of it passed.
Speaker 9 (32:22):
You know, so he had two or three things that
were that were real positive. But I think Morrissey's gonna
need a bigger agenda this time around.
Speaker 12 (32:29):
Uh.
Speaker 9 (32:29):
You know, you're hearing a lot of rumors of a
big time you know, tax bill. I don't know the
details of that at all. You hear different stuff, so
he'd orally don't know what to believe. But I think
that's you know, it looks like that's going to be
something that's going to be his big proposal, and uh,
you know, we'll see what he offers up.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Tex says, man, you almost get paid for every gop
MAGA talking point. Larry Pack will be justice and Morrissey
walking away. He actually has a brain.
Speaker 9 (32:55):
Yeah, but Larry's not going to run against Justice. You know,
I'm looking at you know, those of us. You know,
Larry friends a close personal friend or Larry Pack's a
close personal friend of mine. I really like Larry Pack.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
I'm for him.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Uh you know, I'm for Larry as much as you
can be for Larry. Uh, you know, I'm just you know,
it's just my perception of where, you know, it's sort
of my perception of kind of where this is going
to go.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Cake's done in the oven by way, Mike Meadows, not
my cake, Not my cake.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
TJ Meadows is in here, you know, do a little
work before talk line. Have you ever been on the radio.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Before, TJ. I'm just asking it's all good, it's good.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
Way to wrap it up. Go ahead, give me, give
them another minute. What's on your mind?
Speaker 9 (33:34):
Go ahead, Look, I think we've you know, next time
I come on, we can kind of get more into
the weeds on the specifics of the state legislative races. Uh.
You know, there's going to be a lot of competitive
races here locally in the couple House of Delegate races,
but definitely a bunch of state senate races. And give
us a little give us a quick preview. Go ahead,
and look, I think the you know, probably the one.
(33:55):
You've got a three way race with that uh, doctor
Steve Eschenou. Or you've got Kevin Bartlett, who was the
appointed state senator by Morrissey, who's a pastor in the
Sistemville area. Then you've got Lance Wheeler, the county commissioner here.
That'll be a real competitive one. But you know, I
think that's one that if you look at the background
for these guys, right, I mean you've got Eschenauer, who's
(34:15):
this like four time combat deployment veteran, He's decades of
public health experience. He's a small business owner with that
hunting preserve he has out there. You know, Bartlett's obviously
a pastor. He'll be focused on the social issue stuff.
And then Wheeler was a county commissioner. You know, I
don't I don't really know what his full time job was.
(34:36):
I guess his part time jobs being Silango's assistant for
the last six years, so that was something that he did.
So I guess we'll see, you know, and I think
that's one that you know, the social issue folks are
going to be for Bartlett, the former Democrat sort of
big government liberals will be for Wheeler. You know, he
took almost about half of the money that he praised
(34:56):
with some Democrat trial lawyers. And then Eschenouer will be
the one that gets the votes from people that are
focused on you know, jobs and infrastructure.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
All right, well, let's have you on again soon because
we're just like scratching the surface here. Okay, sounds good, buddy,
Have a good Thanksgiving, Thank you sir. All Right, Greg Thomas,
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Justice should introduce legislation as a senator to do away
with all taxes. If the sitting senator doesn't pay taxes,
(38:30):
why should anyone else? Tex says, we pay Congress ninety
three million, one hundred and thirty two thousand dollars a
year to do nothing but run for office. I don't
agree with Trump, but he's the only one doing anything
and he donates his salary, says a texture. Texas in
regards to favorite side, shocked that nobody ever says deviled
eggs are gone within five minutes at our house. Lol,
same at my house, U. Tex says, that's the difference.
(38:54):
Greg said Larry is a friend. TDS Meltdowner refused to
see the individual person behind the party. That's where the
problem is, says a texture. Is Greg recruiting Larry Pactor
run against Pat Morrissey, Well, I'll say he said he's
one hundred percent behind Larry Pack I will say that,
Tex says, Well, Tyson closed a beef planet in Nebraska.
(39:15):
That's good to devastate the local community. The closure definitely
isn't due to tariffs, immigrant snets, immigrant snatchings, or terrible
agricultural policies. Now it's most likely a ARC or Chuck
Schumer's fault. Stupid libs. They had a little sarcasm there.
How many of the clowns in the show did Greg
help get elected? Says a texture Tex says Wheeler is
Selango's assistant. Lol, Lance have must have hurt Greggy Pooh's feeling.
(39:39):
Somebody who never hurts anybody's feelings is our buddy. Rick
Cabinet from Charleston Nerdon Mars. I just have it on
goodca because.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
You're good people. Well I appreciate that, so are you, sir?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, don't tell anybody. I got a reputation, right all right?
Speaker 4 (39:52):
So how you doing? Man?
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Favorite favorite Thanksgiving side?
Speaker 15 (39:57):
Your favorite part of the me Deviled eggs? I think
that those are. I mean I could eat like eight
of them in a setting.
Speaker 3 (40:04):
My wife makes siracha deviled eggs.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
She would be my best friend. I need spy. If
you're listening. Rick Cavnor wants to eggs.
Speaker 15 (40:11):
We met ten years ago. You remember me or not,
But now that I know you, you make sir Devil Diggs.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So you're gonna be shown up at my house going, hey, Dave,
I remember I met you ten years ago.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
I borrowed a quarter. I just wanted to pay it
back in person. Yeah right right. We hung out looking
Fetteville during the leadership or something. They tell me.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
I don't remember it all right, So Small Business Saturday.
Speaker 15 (40:32):
Yeah, it's coming up, I mean this time of year.
I was just while you were reading those that I
was just kind of like thinking about this whole year.
Speaker 4 (40:38):
Of course you were.
Speaker 15 (40:39):
You were our announcer for Their Night Awards a couple
of weeks ago, and I was thinking about that and
sort of like looking back on the year and just realizing, like,
this is one of my favorite times a year, right,
because like finally things that they sort of slow down
right in some way.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
For us at least at the office.
Speaker 15 (40:53):
But but we also get this really awesome opportunity to
celebrate local business, like small business right with everything going
on downtown this coming weekend, between with the light show,
with l Like the Night, Holly Jolly Browley, everything else happening,
it's such a huge opportunity for folks. Thousands upon thousands
(41:13):
of people come into the urban core of Charleston to
enjoy these events. But there are a ton of really
great small businesses that are offering you know, products and
services the entire weekend, the entire.
Speaker 4 (41:25):
Week all the time.
Speaker 15 (41:27):
But for these folks that may not ever really get
to come to Charleston, and don't they don't come often.
This is a perfect time to shine that spotlight on them.
This is just a great time of year. I genuinely
enjoy it. I know that's probably a nerdy of me.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
But hey, look, look and and and I hear all
the time, and I know you hear this, and again
we're talking Rick Cabint from Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
I hear this all the time.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Rick.
Speaker 4 (41:45):
People will say, I would like to shop.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
In Charleston, but there's nothing here, and I want to say, uh,
w tf, I mean, are you serious?
Speaker 4 (41:53):
Right now?
Speaker 15 (41:54):
I think I think that obviously I've thought a lot
about this, and I was just in a conversation the
other day. I mean, the situation with the Town Center
mall is obviously unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Right.
Speaker 15 (42:03):
I grew up going to that mall, worked in that mall.
Uh and I worked at Camelot Music. Oh yeah, that
was my first job.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
I loved it. Yeah, but you know, I get it.
Speaker 15 (42:15):
And in the perception because of that, because there's you know,
several retail outlets in that in that mall, the perception
can be that there isn't a lot of quote a
lot of quote unquote shopping to do in downtown, but
there really is. There's a lot, a lot of really
great places, locally owned places. And that's the other thing
that you got to remember. And that's why we started
our passport card debit card program, is because we want
(42:36):
to not only shine a spotlight on all of these
really wonderful local businesses throughout our districts, but also remind
folks that anytime they're swiping that card in time, they're
spending money in these in the In this these local businesses,
they are they are promoting the local economy. They are
reinvesting back into in some small way every single time
(42:56):
they do that back into their local economy. So I
mean Small Business Saturday for me is a huge deal
because it's a perfect time for a lot of the
businesses participate. They've run a lot of specials, they do
a lot of really great stuff to get people in
their stores and their restaurants and their pubs, and I
think we should do all we can to support them.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
You mentioned Charleston Urban Works in the Urban Nighte Awards.
We did a coupleanis to command thank you for the
opportunity fancy that Woody Woods and I have had a
ball doing that and it was it was great. I
mean it really really was. It was a packed house
there and to see everybody coming together like that to
celebrate these small businesses in Charleston and not just the businesses,
but I mean people that give back to the community
(43:33):
things that it was awesome. I appreciate the opportunity. Hey,
we ran a little bit long with the grave, but
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Cabinet for Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
Here we're talking.
Speaker 3 (46:49):
About Small Business Saturday and we're talking about the Urban
Ide Awards. But great, great job on you in Lauren
and everybody putting that thing together a couple because it
was fun.
Speaker 15 (46:58):
Thank you, you know, it's great, and that really kind
of bleeds into our conversation about small Business Saturday. You know,
the reason we love doing that the verb Night Awards
so much is because it really is a perfect opportunity
to celebrate all the local business not all the local businesses,
but several of them and the people who make Charleston
you know what it is.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
And you know, I think.
Speaker 15 (47:17):
That whole experience of the air Knight a ward sort
of encapsulates what we want to see happening every single
day on the streets in Charleston, right and what we
want to see happened this this coming Saturday, this weekend
downtown and all throughout the urban corp of Charleston is people.
You know, those cash registers ringing, those folks going into
the Kinship Goods and the one to eighteen, and you
(47:39):
know the even like the bars, like a goat, you know,
stop in at the carpet, get a drink, stop in it, Sam,
stop in it, you know, Fife or Short Story, wherever,
Lee Street, wherever, and just you know, you know, get
a beer, get some food, you know, before on your
way home, you know, grab dinner or whatever the case
may be. Every time you do that, you are reinvesting
in the local economy. And there's there's no easier way
(48:01):
to do that. And whenever you're making your decision where
you want to eat, where you want to buy something,
especially this weekend, do it because there's a lot of
folks do on a lot of really great specials this weekend.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
And you know, people, and we can talk town Center
all we want to, and I've talked to I've been
doing this show for five and a half years now,
and at least once or twice a week something comes
up about the town Center, and I get it.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Like you said, it was your first job.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
I remember, you know, as a teenager, you know, in
the height of the days, you know, driving from from Logan,
you know, to the town Center. Yeah, but it's not
going to come back like it was before.
Speaker 4 (48:31):
Never.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
And but but I I guess my and I understand
it is sad, okay, but but I guess my. My
criticism of people that would be like, well, we don't
have shopping in Charleston. As I said, the town Center
wasn't shopping. I mean it was shopping in Charleston and
employed a lot of people. But that money, nine times
out of ten went somewhere else where, says it stays here.
Speaker 15 (48:52):
I should of course, yeah, yeah, obviously obviously, but yeah, no, no, yeah,
well and again, and so that's a really good example.
Speaker 4 (48:58):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 15 (48:59):
I mean, there's you know, of course, we're always going
to promote the you know, shopping local and eating local,
actually locally owned places, right, but you know, there is
something to be said about the fact that the that
the even the chains that were in the Town Center Mall,
I mean those leaving.
Speaker 4 (49:15):
I think the impact that that.
Speaker 15 (49:18):
Had is, you know, there are other sources of revenue
that that occur from any business that opens up in Charleston, right,
regardless if it's a chain or not. But our job
as an organization is to make sure that we are
shining the spotlight on the shopkeepers. I like, that's what
we always call them, the shopkeepers, right, that folks who
you know, they put their bootstraps on. They they're using
nothing but grit and hard work, elbow grease and making
(49:42):
something out of nothing. And we've seen so many some
of the folks that that you saw win awards at
the Erwinight Awards a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (49:48):
Ago, that those are those folks, that those are those folks.
Speaker 15 (49:51):
And the other interesting part the conversations I was having
with folks after the awards were not only was it
great excuse me to hear the stories like when were
you and what you were making the announcements about the
winners as they would go to stage. Not only was
it great to hear more about them, but it opened
my eyes to so many different places that I hadn't
even really been to yet. Like, oh, yeah, Bogies at
(50:11):
the Capitol Market. I got to go check that out. Right,
Like oh, Miss Ruby's Corner Market in the heart of
the West Side, you know, a grocery store right there
in the heart of the West Side. I got to
go check that out. It's so cool to learn about
this place. There's so many stories, yeah, that we can
tell about the hard work of people here in Charleston,
and and they're endless.
Speaker 4 (50:30):
The stories are endless.
Speaker 15 (50:31):
So again, going back to this weekend, small Business Saturday,
go out and support those those really interesting stories, right,
those stories of starting from nothing and becoming something by
swiping your card at the at the point of sale
when you go buy your next you know whatever, hammer
or drill.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
And how do people get those cards? Remind people, well,
I'm when I say card, I mean any car.
Speaker 15 (50:51):
Now, we're interested in our Passport Card program, which is
a fully shoped local initiative. If you become a member
at Element, Federal or Credit Union, you can opt to
get the Passport debit cards as your official debit card.
And when you have that card, anytime you shop in
our district. So right now, that's East and Westside. We've
also included downtown as a partnership with the DCA and
(51:13):
here soon we'll be adding all the Kanas City businesses
to that list because we've expanded to Kano City. Anytime
you swipe your card there, that's all you have to do,
is you shop there, you get two percent cash back
very purchase. So that doesn't sound like a lot, but
it adds up pretty quick. Absolutely, And you know that's
one of our one of our ways that we're trying
to incentivize folks to to keep their dollars here locally,
in shop local. So highly recommend you check it out.
(51:36):
You get our website Charleston nurveranworks dot org, click on
the passport card passport debit card link.
Speaker 4 (51:42):
It'll take an elements page and you can learn more
about it.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
And again, you know, small business Saturday. There's so much
excitement going on in downtown Charleston over the next couple
of days because everybody, every once, everybody gets to their
Thanksgiving turkey and them, you know, Holly Jolly Brawley is
gonna get going. We got light the night over to Ballpark.
The Mayor, i think is going to write the light
Thechristmas Tree and the whole deal and and and then
we have the parade which is coming up next week.
Speaker 4 (52:06):
Thanks, so yeah, okay, next to what, I can't remember
the day of the week. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (52:08):
I think I think it's Thursday, Thursday, and so you
got that going on, and it's it's Christmas time in
the city it is. I will spare you, Rick and
I going into song on that. All right you okay?
Speaker 4 (52:20):
Rick Cavanor, Charleston Urban Works.
Speaker 3 (52:22):
Appreciate you being here, and I promise, I promise the
next time my wife knows you, whether she's making for
Thanksgiving or not, I will get you some devil day
this all right, Rick Cavtor, Charleston Urban Works. I'll see
you later today. I'll metroduce Midday powered by Selango Law
with thirteen News and Tonight Live anchor Manda Bearon and
me coming.
Speaker 4 (52:36):
Up on this show tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (52:38):
Oh Tony the Taylor is going to be stopping by
the top of a little small talk, a little small business.
Sturday also can introduce you to some students at West
Virginia State University that are promoting music. All right, I
will see you later today. Till then, have fun and
love somebody.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
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