11/26/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Students from West Virginia State University, Tony the Tailor, Chuck McGill

Dave talked with students from West Virginia State University on the upcoming symphony concert, Tony the Tailor on Small Business Saturday and the New Capital Market Director Chuck McGill.

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He's kind of a big deal.

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Of bubble Dave Allen.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
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to the Show's nine o seven on a hey Wednesday morning.
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Tony's actually gonna join us in studio, coming up a
little bit later on. Of course his Thanksgiving hours today.
He'll be open till two is close tomorrow and on
Black Friday. Of course, we want to encourage everybody to

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come down for Holly Jolly Brawley and City Center on Friday,
and Tony's gonna be open on Saturday for small Business Saturday.
We're going to talk about that with Tony coming up
a little bit later on in the show, and for
more you can check out Tony's Facebook page or visit
Bestmaster Taylor dot com. Stephanie Paly is our producer today
this day before Thanksgiving. Coming up a new director of
Capitol Market. His name is Chuck McGill and if that

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name sounds familiar, it should. He's been a longtime sportswriter
here in the area. Now he's a new director of
the market. We'll talk to him a little bit later on.
And as I said, Tony the Taylor is going to
stop by two and your phone calls and text are
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Speaker 3 (02:02):
Tony B.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Taylor Text three zero four nine three five five zero
zero eight want to tell you about a musical event
happening at West Virginia State University January the thirtieth at
the Wilson Student Unions. Let's start about six here to
talk about it. We've got to Madeline. Is that when
I pronounced that right, Madeline say, Okay, you're on radio,
so you have to say something okay, yes, Okay, you
got Madeline. And we also have Kylie Yes, and we.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Have Tabby Tabby.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
All right, So first of all, let everybody to get
to know you, introduce yourselves, tell us what you're studying
at West Virginia State. How'd you get into this ill thing?
Anybody can start, go ahead. I think I think they're
electing you.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
So go ahead.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
I'm Madeline Bailey. I am a double major. I do music,
performance and communications with an emphasis.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
In pr Okay.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
So I started playing the flue when I was ten
and I've kept with it ever since. And I chose
communications and public relations because I enjoyed aspect of it.
When I was in high school, and I just thought
that planning this gala for the orchestra would kind of
combine the two. So the three of us thought it
would be a good idea, and we kind of stuck

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with it ever since.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
And that's one of the reasons why you're here, because
you folks reached out to me because you want to
get into the whole pr thing, and and and by
the way, and by the way, just I didn't plan this.
I'm actually drinking out of my West Virginia State coffee
mug today. Oh courtesy was my good friend Eric Cage,
the president out there when he was on the show.
One day, I was drinking out of a Marshall coffee mug.
And because I'm a well I went to hold on Now,
I went to Marshall, okay, and so I was drinking

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and he said, he said, uh, you know you need
you need a West Virginia State coffee mug. And the
next time he came in, lo and behole. He comes in,
he hands me a West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
State Coffee boy fund to suck.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yeah, so he brought gifts. You guys didn't bring anything, right,
I brought my presence Okay, your's presence not with a
t right, all right, you're cut off.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
You're not going back on again.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Okay, but but but the reason I wanted to bring
up the pr aspect of it, because of part of
what you're doing is is you need to get the
word out, so you contact you folks kind attacked me
and so we'd like to come on and talk about
this big event. So talk about your and I'll get
to the other two. I was just kidding, and talk
about your your musical experience when you start playing the flute.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
What age I.

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Started playing the flute to ten? I was blessed because
my parents let me have private lessons growing up. And
I always just thought the flu was a very cool instrum.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I'll say, what was it about the flute.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
I don't know, it just I always loved it. I
always heard it in movies and things. And you always
saw people playing the flute the wrong way.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Usually in movies. It's so play it the right way.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
They always do in movies, whether it's no matter what
the instrument is, guitar or whatever. My dad was a
pretty good guitarist, and it would kill him watching movies
when people were playing guitar, and they never moved their hands,
you know, they just especially on the neck of the guitar, like.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
No, stop that stop that. So all right, and I
introduce yourself.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Well, my name's Kylie Hannah and I am a little
bit oven underachiever. So I'm just a communication But I
have been involved with music my entire life. I've been
singing for as long as I can remember. I play
a little guitar, not anything to shake a stick at.

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But I am a part of our school's jazz band,
and our jazz band's going to be performing at our gala.
And it's just a really, really amazing.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Band.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
I mean Scott Woodard puts it together and he absolutely
rocks it. I mean we have people who are students,
we have community members, we have professionals all in this band,
just like the orchestra, and it's just really an amazing
opportunity for people to grow, to learn, to have fun,
let loose a little bit, and it's just a really

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cool environment and I've enjoyed getting to be a part
of it. So I just decided in my free time
I was going to be a part of something musical
on campus and that was that. And I've been best
friends with Maddie since high school.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
So where would you guys go to high school?

Speaker 6 (05:58):
We're both homeschooled.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Actually okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, but you went let's say so you went to
the same room in the same house.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
No, no, we did this. We did the same curriculum.
That such a yeah, okay, but yeah, I love pr
and so I've really really enjoyed getting to put the
gala on and do a lot of the social media
we have. We're posting currently on two social media sites,
Facebook and Instagram, and we just are really enjoying getting

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to put all of it together. We've been filming interviews
with all of the orchestra members and it's just been awesome.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
All right, and you said you were a singer. What's
your favorite genre? What do you sing?

Speaker 6 (06:40):
I mean, I'm a little biased, but jazz.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, that's all right.

Speaker 6 (06:45):
I definitely love anything Ella Fitzgerald, anything that can cold.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
The classics, yes, classic. I just I just got into
jazz a couple of years ago. I'm a person that
loves music of all kinds, and I just got into
jazz a couple of years ago. And my favorite is
not any of those. John Coltrane. I'm a huge Coltrane fan.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Love.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I love Coltrane, all.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Right, and you are I'm Tabby, all right, Tabby, and
tell us about you.

Speaker 7 (07:11):
I'm a music performance major and a communications miner.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (07:16):
I play the trumpet. I started playing the trumpet when
I was in fourth grade. And I've always loved music.
So getting to put on an event like this and
be in college for music it it's really it's been
really fun, and it's been a really good experience, and
I'm excited for this gala. It's gonna be fun, all right.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And I will say something about this about the communications
program and all of the curriculum. You know that state
is amazing, but the communications program is really good. And
we've had a lot of folks that have come through
here that were part of that program. Hollywood. Jeff Patty,
who produced this show for many years. You know, you
guys know Jeff. Yeah, well, Jeff, of course, he works
on our sister station is ninety eight seven The Mountain

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and also KWS on the on the weekends. And Jeff
and I have done each other for a number of years.
I hope he's not listening right because I'm gonna give
him a compliment. Jeff's class act.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
He's a good dude.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
I I I'm lucky to have him as a friend
and as a coworker too. But don't ever tell him
I said that. All right, doing, all right, let's talk
about the event. Let's talk about the event. It's January
the what thirtieth? January thirtieth, all right? And what are
people if they come out for? What are they going
to hear? What are they going to experience that night?

Speaker 5 (08:25):
So we are having a bunch of things. We're having
live music by the jazz band. You'll hear her saying
she's very modest, but she has a gorgeous voice, and
she's not trained, she's she's got a gorgeous voice. So
you'll hear her saying, we have a bunch of people singing.
Our jazz band is incredible. We're going to have some
orchestra groups performed. This is the celebration of the ten
years of the orchestra, so we're wanting to honor all

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the hard work that people have put in. We're going
to have food for everybody and a silent auction, and
we're going to have live dancing and live music and
we'll have some recorded music too, and for we'll have
a silent auction for people with a bunch of things
we can't let people know.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
That's part of the part of the fun.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
Yeah, I'll have a little surprise for some people when
they get there. And we just want to have a
good time of people.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And it says it's a masquerade ball, tell you we're
doing the whole.

Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yeah, so you can't come in unless you have a mask.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, yeah, and we're just one get.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
A mask like that?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Well Amazon, you can get a mask on Amazon co Bucks.
I don't care what kind of mask you show up and.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Just hardcore about it.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Right.

Speaker 6 (09:25):
Well, we're going to have a photo booth like a
genuine red carpet so that people can take photos. It's
not going to be in vain, so you know, show
up looking absolutely stellar because your photo is going to
be taken.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Whether you like, whether you want it or not. Right,
So that's what you're saying.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Where can people get tickets online?

Speaker 6 (09:44):
So we have we have links that are being posted
on all of those social media's. We have invites being
sent out on Facebook. You can register online RSVP.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
So yeah, we have an event on Facebook. It's combined
with the WSU Music on Facebook and the West Vinia
State Orchestra on Facebook, and then the link is online
through the West Vinia State Foundation.

Speaker 7 (10:09):
Okay, all right, it's listed as the name of the event.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
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the show that we do, ladies, is we get text
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that somebody text it okay, it says kids really should
get into music and marching band. Those were the best
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how many other favorite celebs were band geeks, including our
own Jennifer Garner, who played saxophone and the GW Patriots
marching band and she still plays.

Speaker 6 (11:12):
Absolutely I totally agree. I think that marching band is
a really really cool thing. Ours is kind of small,
but we lead it with pride and we really really
show up for our football games. We have a pet
band going on for basketball games. I think that's getting started.
So we have a relatively small school and with that

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comes sometimes not a whole lot of interest in certain
aspects because people just don't know that it's going on.
And so I think that's why as communication majors, we
tend to feel a little like, oh, but there's so
many things going on, how do people not know about this?
And so we try to create that movement in the

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student body so that people know that these things are
going on, because a lot of people they just don't
understand that we've got a jazz band. We have a
pet band, we have a marching band, we have an orchestra,
we have we had a show band there for a
little bit, and I was a part of that as well.
And the only difference between jazz band and show band

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was that show band had a real, real tall black
dude in front of it. And his name is Phil Washington,
and he oh swag for days.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Everybody knows Phil, yes, and Phil Washington is he's a gay.
But you see him on TV doing the lottery numbers
all the time, and he's very, very accomplished.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
What do you guys hope to do? I'm gonna ask.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
Him a personal question of all three. What do you
hope to do after graduation? We'll start with you, what
do you what do you do? You know which will
do after graduation?

Speaker 7 (12:43):
I'd like to go into music marketing.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Okay, all right, all right, what about you?

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Honestly I want to dabble in just about anything I
can get my hands in that's communications related. So I
really love broadcasting.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I'm taking notes here, by the way, just so you know,
because we're always looking for people. I'm all right, all right,
Jeff Jenkins, if you're listening, upstairs in the news department,
come down and talk to this young lady, or talk
to all three of them, but go ahead.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
And I'm sorry, yeah, no, you're fine. I but broadcasting radio.
I genuinely, really, really love anything PR related, so I
think it would be so fun to uh a project,
manage and to put my hands into something that I
can really feel good about and you know, bigger causes
and something like that.

Speaker 3 (13:29):
So what about you.

Speaker 5 (13:31):
I am on the same lads these too. I've looked
into music marketing as well. But I love doing all
of the aspects of communications. I work for sports information
right now and I'm learning broadcasting and how to do
the audio and journalistic aspects of it.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Stephanie Poly is our producer and she can help with that.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
Too, just so you know, yeah, I enjoy all of it.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
But she went to Marshall, is that okay? I guess
all right, are gonna do? I'll let it slide all right.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Again, I thought I.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Turned your microphone off, all right, so appreciate all three
of you been there. Give us the dates of the
concert again. We'll have you on before then.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
But give it.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Give us the dates of the big event again.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
January thirtieth, twenty twenty six and.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Taket servailable at on your social media. Appreciate all three
of you being here.

Speaker 6 (14:18):
Thanks a lot, Thank.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
You, And I'm serious, I think Jenkins is going to
come down and talk to you three about about hiring today.
So you may or not be at the concert. You
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Speaker 3 (17:12):
Zero zero eight.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Chuck McGill, the new director of Capitol Market's, could have
joined us a little bit later on the show.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Want to welcome in now our good friend.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Tony the Taylor.

Speaker 11 (17:20):
How you doing, man, Good morning, happy thanksgiving them.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
Dave backed that microphone down a little bit because I
you know, it's a couple of those communications.

Speaker 3 (17:26):
Major.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
We're a little soft speaking. We'll work on that, but not.

Speaker 11 (17:29):
You, not me, not so spoken.

Speaker 2 (17:32):
He heard you, you know, coming up out of South
Hills a minute ago. All right, so small Business Saturday,
and listeners know my opinions on this. We should always
shop small and locally when possible. Uh. But we'll get
in that a little bit later on. Tony, you have
been a big part of Small Business Saturday for some time.
You were telling me a story on the phone yesterday.

Speaker 11 (17:52):
Twenty ten, we were the only store in West Virginia
to participate in Small Business Saturday. And it's an augur
ye of twenty ten, and then it's slowly picked up
and then it's become a big thing. Like Black Friday.
We don't participate in Black Friday. We give our employees
that day off. Givema today rest because from Black from
Small vis A Saturday until Christmas Eve.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
It's full throttle to.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Let the roll aids kick in on the on the
day after. Well, and let's be honest, I mean, Black
Friday is not the big deal that it used to
be like twenty years ago.

Speaker 11 (18:23):
Right, There's no when I was Cabby's Patch kids and
what you know, there's different crazy toys that I bought
when my kids were young. Yeah, but yeah, so there's
nothing really like that, and there's no more. I mean,
one hundred dollars television is like a normal price.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now, yeah, yeah, but but I mean I just remember,
you know, what it used to be like, and I
was always working, so I you know, doing it one
doring in the morning show. My Black Friday was me
being on the air at you know, five point thirty
in the morning. But I can remember, you know, the
news reports how it used to be wild, and it's
not that way anymore. But small Bustus Saturday has just
continued to get bigger and big. I had the mayor

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of Hurricane on the show on Monday, and then Hurricane
is a very very small town.

Speaker 3 (19:03):
Okay, they go all out for it.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
I mean, you can't walk down the streets of Hurricane
for their you know, eight nine businesses that they have,
and of course the Valley parks got stuff going on
and throughout Tays Valley, I know South Charleston saying everybody's
got stuff's a big deal.

Speaker 11 (19:16):
And it's the second largest volume day in the Christmas season.
The biggest is always and always has been the Saturday
before Christmas, no matter where it falls with Christmas. Sometimes
it's Christmas Eve that still be the biggest retail day.
And the Christmas season again, it'st a short window.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
This year.

Speaker 11 (19:34):
We only have four saturdays to get it done this year,
two years back to back, so retail sales will reflect
that when they report them. Then sometimes we get five weeks.
Generally it depends just when Thanksgiving falls.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
And here's here's one of the knocks that I hear
about Charleston. There's nowhere to shop, there's nowhere.

Speaker 11 (19:56):
To Those are the people who never come to Charleston.
They I mean, they obviously don't. On my street. I'm
on a corner of Hale in Virginia. If you walk
two blocks north, there's every storefront is filled and full
of great little shops and restaurants. Capitol Street is not
a big retail center, but there's some great eateries there.
There's a couple of retail stores there. There are still

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a couple of stores left in the mall here. But
then also you go just right up the hill there
and you have Bridge Road Shopping. Are great specialty stores
up there, fantastic. It's the way of retailing nowadays is
there's a mixture of online, small shopping areas and then
larger retail areas like South Ridge which is huge. Everybody

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talks you know the hold the mall in Huntington, Well,
Huntington Mall wouldn't exist if it wasn't for the five
times as many stores that are on out parcels and
are surrounding it. It's just the way it is. People
just don't shop at enclosed malls anymore, just as fact.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
And the interesting thing about that to me and Ian
we're talking to Tony the Taylor Paranzino about small business Saturday.
The interesting thing about that is is that you know,
you and I are roughly okay, no, you're a lot
older than me, but we remember the heydays of the
malls and it didn't have to be the town, so
it could be any mall across America and going to
the mall Fast Times at Ridgemont High. You know which
the movie that changed my life by the way, uh

(21:14):
I was actually yeah, well bb Kate's pool scene. That's
all I got to say about that single handedly propelled
me into puberty. But I but I will say that
the days of going People still go to malls, Okay,
they still do. However, the bigger we've gotten, the smaller
we've gotten, because there's people that still love to go

(21:35):
to these small shops, just like the ones you mentioned
in Charleston. And you do incredible business down there, but
you're still considered small business obviously, but you but you're
one though, and there are several others that have kind
of bridged that gap between Okay, you can still come
in and just look around, but you also do things online.
You also do things. You can do trunk shows and

(21:56):
things of that nature. So I think the successful business
in twenties twenty five tony about to be twenty twenty
six has got to kind of be a marriage of
all of them.

Speaker 11 (22:03):
You have to be omni channel. If you're in retail,
no matter what size, I'm small to large. If you
have no internet presence, you're not in business. We have
a very robust online store and ship all over the
country eight or nine packages a day. We're one of
the larger, probably single store online retailers in the country
for men's clothing. I sold three Oxford suits online ship

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to Massachusetts, one went to Pennsylvania.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
And each are people that people. You need to realize.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
These are people that in many cases don't have any
ties to this area. They're not from Charleston and said, well,
I still want to shop with Tony or whatever. The
people that just did the the Google machine search engine
and found.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
You, you know.

Speaker 11 (22:42):
And what's amusing to me sometimes is I recognize some
of the names I'm sending to. There'll be celebrities, there'll
be business type you I mean, other than me, other
than well, yeah, well you walk.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
In the store.

Speaker 11 (22:53):
Okay, that's truely, that's true with your on tarage.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
But yeah, yeah.

Speaker 11 (22:56):
But so it's just fascinating to me. But that's that's
the way it is, and it's it's fun and it
keeps us going, I mean, it really does. But again,
it used to be more than our own, than our
in store business, and now our in store business has
surpass because Charleston. Again, people are coming here. We have
to collect your data, have people moving here all the time,

(23:17):
and these are the people you want moving here, professionals
and it's fantastic and people can say no. But the
housing situation reflects that there's a shortage of houses. There's
sorties of reason there's a shortage of house. Yeah, and
people are moving here. And it's not just Charleston. I
mean it goes on down through the valley. Well, the
whole thing is Charleston. Yeah, people, this border thing is
going across the board, you know. I mean Charleston has

(23:38):
forty eight thousand people, then you cross over the river
and you got another thirty thousand added to they're really
are trading area is about six hundred and fifty thousand people.
Is our trading right now, which is the Metro Valley
and Logan we go to Pikeville. That's that's pretty much
if you're in retail that you're trading right.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
We talked to Tony the Taylor appearing Zino about small
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business Saturday look like for Tony the Taylor.

Speaker 11 (24:13):
We have great promotions again. Quarter zips are hot. That's
the hot item. That's the that's the cabbage patch kid
appearently of Christmas twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
But you're not gonna get a kidney injured trying to
find one.

Speaker 11 (24:25):
We're doing a buy one, get one free on all
sweaters that day in store only on that but we
have outer wear at half price. We have great selection
of shoes. Got a special selection of Johnson and Murphy's
that are seventy nine ninety nine for a dress roof
you need a nice banner black dress jew some other
great deals going on. You can check our website at
Bestmaster Taylor dot com for that, and then we're ready

(24:49):
to go. Don't forget to come downtown for Holly Jolly
Browny on Friday of art Walk. We are not open
for this, but so I can go out and actually
enjoy it. Some great events we the holiday shopping Village
going on Slack Plaza and you know, don't forget to
stop in my buddy at Sam's Uptown for a nice
great meal and a cocktail and walk around pod. It

(25:10):
will be in effect and it would be a great time.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
And again, you know, I had you on to talk
about your business because you're, you know, kind of up
to sponsored this show. But I also wanted you to
hit on the other businesses, which you've done, because it's
not just it's not just the Tony the Taylor Show.
I mean everybody else is everybody. Everybody's taking part of it.
And again that vibrant downtown and I think people kind
of you know, and Holly Jolly Brawley has been such

(25:32):
a big part of that over the last you know,
the last holiday seas.

Speaker 11 (25:35):
I have to tell you Kevin Madison and Morgan Morrison
they work their tails off year round for this event
and every year they make it better and better and better.
And I'm pumped for the Drone show. The last year
was good. This year it's going to be spectacular.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, we had a text here for you that says, uh,
how do you know measurements are accurate if you're going
by what someone posts on an online order.

Speaker 11 (25:58):
Well, most things we sell online are belts, shoes, sports wear,
very rarely we get things that we we don't do
anything custom made online except for belts. We have custom
belts online and we call them and that's the way
it is, or I will go visit them. Most we
don't really sell custom shirts online. That's in it's impossible

(26:19):
to do uh accurately.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Well. And the great thing I think about about your
store is is people can go in there and they
can shop and not you know, you guys are experts.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
You and Ryan, you know you do a great job.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
And you go in and you know, okay, I gotta
I got a formal event coming up.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
Help me.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
And I know I've hung out at your store enough
to know that that you get a lot of that
people coming in or put somebody bringing a kid in
for a Christmas formal or something like that.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
And and and they don't know. What they don't know
is that they.

Speaker 11 (26:51):
Don't even weddings. You know, we do three or four
weddings weekend, which which is a huge business. We're probably
the largest Tuxiter place. And the thing, we're cheaper than
everybody else, and we do it better than everybody else.
So it's it's uh, you know, it's just fun. And
we interview you first, we just want to give you something.
We want to make sure you look good and feel

(27:12):
good when you leave. And am sure event that's important.
Look good and feel good.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Now you're a Charleston guy, I mean born, born, in bred,
and like what I always said, you're born and bred.
When you die, you'll be Charleston dead. But uh, talk
about people always want to look back on any town
Tony and they all want to say, well, this I
remember how it how it used to be.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
And that's okay.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
People have a tendency to look back through rose colored
glasses sometimes, you know, and it's not always like It's
like with music, you know, on the music of the
eighties was the best of all.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
It really was, really was.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
I mean we but we look about it and you know,
but but but but talk about what it was like
and there's still a lot of positive things going on.
But talk about growing up in Charleston East End kid,
and what what what Charleston was was like. And my
point is not to say it was better then than
it is now. I'm just saying it's just different.

Speaker 11 (28:01):
It's just different. It's just the way it is. I
mean again, and my dad started the store in nineteen
seventy four and I had to go to work. I
was nine years old, and downtown was thriving. It was busy,
and it's where everything wasn't as like every downtown in
America was like that. And then the mall was built,
and Charleston was kind of on the forefront of building
them all downtown rather than out in the outskirts, which

(28:23):
sucked down life out of downtown. Well, this mall did
suck the life out of downtown just four or five
blocks away. However, we stayed downtown because we were downtown.
Store men don't go to shopping malls. And we thrived
and thrived and grew and grew and grew. And then
investment came downtown professionals building these buildings rehaving them, which

(28:47):
puts people down there. And then what happens. Restaurants open
up and service stores open up, and it's just a
part of retailing. Then mall started to decline in the
late nineties. It's just the reality of it all over America,
not just in Charleston. And then strips shopping centers started
opening up on the outskirts. If you go to Columbus right, Oh,

(29:09):
I go to go to Easton and go to Columbus.
That's not an indoor mall, it's an outdoor mall. And
the people who owned the Town Center when they sold
their portfolio, except for the Town Center because it was
heavily in debt. The group of the Australian Big Mall group,
every mall they bought, of the twenty four that twenty
five malls of twenty four they bought, they tore them
all down and turn them into outdoor shopping many downtowns basically,

(29:33):
And that's just the way it is. It's all over
the country. The Internet really, you know, I might have
hurt malls a little bit. However, what we see now
is people will shop on our store locally on the
internet and then come and pick it up in the
store and then augment their purchase. And a lot of

(29:54):
larger retailers are seeing that. If you're paying attention and
reading like the Wall Street Journal about retailing.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Well, and you're a person that is never shy to
give opinions, so I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you your
opinion of the town Center, the current State town Center.

Speaker 11 (30:10):
Yeah, it is sad to me. What the other way
it will ever work? It just needs to be leveled
and rebuilt into an entertainment and arts district. You're right
beside one hundred million dollar facility. You need restaurants, you
need entertainment style stores. That's the only way I work.
People who want to buy and have all these ideas,

(30:31):
they're just clueless to retail. They have zero idea what
they're doing. We're thinking about. I like people who think
about it, but again their ideas are just shot.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
I mean, it was originally, you know, and this has
gone back and forth. We've had a commissioner Silango and
the mayor and others on to talk about this that
originally we talked about taking the town Center and you know,
making it into an aquatic center, and then the funding
you know, kind of went away. And that's still it's
still got something's still going to happen there. But you
got to understand that that mall is owned by a

(31:01):
private company as it stands right now, and that private company,
as long as they're paying their taxes and as long
as they're not, there's no you know, there's not any
major issues there. Not really a lot of people can do.
I don't understand their business model. They've done this in
other places. The whole group is purchased malls and and
let them and just let them decline. That's what they
do for tax reasons. I suppose I don't know, and

(31:24):
I say that to say, I agree with you one
hundred percent. I am a supporter of something for that mall.
That's not I mean.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
And these people that.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Say, Tony, well, if we just put a blank in there,
it was David Busters. Uh, you know, God Blest, one
of my former producers. If they just put a David Busters,
they saved them all. If we just put a you
know whatever. No, not one store is not going to
save them all. It's not about it needs to be
an entire, an entire entertainment complex. Because it's okay level.
But when you have these people that come in for

(31:53):
these big events like at It Shiney and whatever. They
may play a game at six o'clock on a Friday
night and not play another one till one o'clock on Sunday, Well,
what are they gonna do.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
They're not gonna sit in the hotel room. They got
to have something. Come down to Tony the Taylor we do.
We get tons, exactly tons of direct business from these
soccer tournaments and softball tournaments and these large youth sports.
If I may talk about the sports complex real quick,
We're we're just waiting on a federal funding. We are
waiting Shelley Moore and at the time Senator Mansion. We

(32:23):
have an ear mark, and these guys in Washington can't
get their stuff together and to get a budget done.
And when it's done, the earmark will pop up and
we will get it and then we can finish. We've
done our part. The city of Charleston in the county
has done their part, and we're just waiting for your
congress people who are douless to do their part and

(32:43):
that then they we'll move forward. These things just aren't
built overnight. In the Aquatic Center, there's a reason they're
all nonprofit because they are abhorribly expensive and the maintenance
on them is out of control. Can see that and
every private one has obviously. I mean, just just do
a little reading and research. There's money pits because again

(33:05):
you're dealing with water. I think it'd be great, but
who's going to pay for it? Are you willing to pay?
Are you willing to pay more taxes to have that?
And nobody is they're not.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
He's never shied with opinions. That's one of the reason
why you and I get along so well. I think.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
All right, tell us, let's recap the small business Saturday again.
Your business is going to be closed tomorrow and Friday.
Will open up on Saturday. But there's a lot of
activities going on downtown. Just final forty five.

Speaker 11 (33:30):
Seconds, forty four seconds. We have a Black Friday art
Walk downtown, holliw Jolly Brawley. Saturday. Small Business Saturday, we
open at ten, close at five, which are long day
come down, free parking in all the garages and all
the meters on Saturday. Also, I want to mention we're
having a Alan Edmonds and a Brax trunk show on
December fourth, a week from Thursday. It's a huge event,

(33:53):
great deals, and I appreciate you having me on here day.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
So what you're saying is you're going to suck more
my money out of my pocket?

Speaker 11 (34:01):
Right, Actually, stopped by payroll and there's four check to me.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Well, you know you all right, I appreciate it. TEXTA
says weight You both said people are coming here to shop,
but we can't support them all.

Speaker 11 (34:17):
Correct, because stores don't are especially stores don't located in malls.
That's right. But your business is good, that's huge. I
mean it grows every year. It grows every year. We're
the largest men's clothing store in the two hundred mile radius.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
Okay, have you back on again soon? You behaved yourself?
Have no delay on?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Oh no, I told you this morning. We started that
delay at eight thirty this morning. Did get ready for
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Speaker 2 (37:43):
Welcome back to the show. Fifteen minutes away from ten.
Text says Easton does have an indoor section. That's right,
they do, and we appreciate that. Tony was talking about
Easton up in Columbus that there is an indoor section,
but the majority of it is outdoors.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I would think.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Text says, as a business owner, don't get political. You
saw what going on one way did to Budweiser a
few years ago. Keep your political views to yourself. Well,
appreciate the text. No, Tony does too, But you just
don't know Tony the Taylor.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Uh just and I say that at the best possible way.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
Didn't the public vote on an aquatic center put that
in the mall like promise?

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Well, no, they did not. Texas.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
How many other men's stores are in two hundred miles
with Charleston and large in terms of sales, square footage,
spirit opinion. Well, let's see, I'm gonna say, within two
hundred miles of Charleston, I can name off the top
of my head.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
At least.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
At least fifteen, at least fifteen, I'm saying, I'm off
the top of my head at least fifteen.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
I know Tony's got a.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
List, because you know he does things like that, so
we'll kind of get you about fifteen, I would say,
But day Allen, that's just And if Tony's if if Tony,
if I'm wrong, I know you're listening, you can text
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Chuck McGill's name, but he joined us right now.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Good morning, sir, welcome to the show. Good morning.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Your name is certainly familiar to those of us. Run here,
but give those who may not know who you are,
give us your background.

Speaker 14 (39:17):
Sure, born and raised in Charleston. Grew up, I guess
the first in South Charleston, then the West side, and
then I'm an Eastern Connall County product. Roots du last
class of DuPont High School. We shut it down.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Okay, they said, we're done.

Speaker 14 (39:31):
I guess that's it. So yeah, so I've my roots
are in Charleston. We came back in two thousand and nine.
My wife is from Pittsburgh and she came back with you.
We had our son here, worked at the Charleston Daily
mel then when the Gazette and Daily Mail merged, was
the sports editor there, and then spent my last ten
years in collegiate athletics, first at Marshall University and for

(39:51):
the past fifteen months at the Mountain East Conference. So
I've been at the Division one, Division two level of
college athletics. So very non linear journey here. But I'm
back to you know, back home, you know. And uh,
I grew up running around Plaza East and going to
Capital Market when it was still a recycling facility, like
you know, so you know, I understand the history there

(40:12):
and the tradition and the nostalgia that comes with it.
And when I saw it, you know, I just I
went after it with Gusto.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
What was it that made that made it appealing to you?

Speaker 14 (40:21):
Yeah, I mean the the the you know, we we
we took my son there when he was you know,
when he was a toddler, and I you know, I think,
you know, convincing people that I'm not just a sports
guy was a thing that I was at least concerned about.
The the hiring committee seemedless concerned about it as I
went through. But you know, I'm a music guy, I'm

(40:43):
an arts guy. I love museums, I love food. You know,
my interests are varied. And you know, Capital Market for
us was you know, uh, you know, a cornerstone of Charleston,
and it's where we took you know, out of town
visitor outse That's where we you know, it's it's what
we wanted when we wanted to.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
Showcase Charleston and what we were about. That's where we went.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I was gonna say because whenever people come to Charleston,
my experience has been and my wife's company would say
the same thing.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
When they came to Charleston, they'd say.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well, you know, we have time and evening, where do
we need to go? That was always number one. You
got to go to Capitol Marks.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 14 (41:15):
So there's established brand there and I have an appreciation
for that nostalgia, the memories that people make, you know,
sorting through through pictures, I can see my son with pumpkins.
We went there and picked out our Christmas trees. You know,
when we lived in South Hills in Charleston, it was
always a big thing for me to have the hanging flowers,
you know, So my wife and I would go and
pick out the flowers, and you know, we'd go into

(41:37):
inside the Capital Market. We were there for an event
a few weeks ago, and my son wanted to go
in and get something from the sushi.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Garden, you know.

Speaker 14 (41:43):
So like it's just it has everything, and it's everything
that I want Charleston to be and so to kind
of be a caretaker of it, like it's a really
big deal to me.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
What is your vision for Capitol Market?

Speaker 14 (41:54):
Yeah, I mean we want to grow. There's challenges there.
There's built in challenges as far as it being kind
of land locked on all four sides with parking lots
or Smith Street. But we want to grow, find ways
to grow, find ways to engage the community more and
create that next generation of people who care about the market.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
You know.

Speaker 14 (42:15):
That's you know, my son's thirteen years old, so I
want him to grow up and have children and that's
their destination on the weekends or the evenings or whatever.
So I want it to be a really family friendly
place and you know, a place where everybody goes like
you're saying, and kind of be that gem of Charleston.

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We went a little bit long with Tony the Taylor.

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That's fine, imagine that Tony's worth it.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
No, he's not all right. I want to take a break.

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Big Ley Pickley Weekly Hotline three zero four three four
five fifty eight fifty eight Tony the Taylor text three
zero four nine three five five zero zero, and I
knew that Tony would be listening. We had a question
about how many men shops were there in a two

(45:13):
hundred miles radius. That he says independent stores within a
two hundred mile radius about nine. I was a little
high on that, So they're about nine or so within
a two hundred mile radius. Chuck McGill is here, the
new director of Capital Market. So we're getting into Thanksgiving
and Christmas, always a big time at the Capitol Markets.
Give us an idea of some things that are planned
for holidays.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Sure, yeah, I'm coming in at the right time the
bur months or the wrong time. No to look at
it that that's always.

Speaker 14 (45:39):
My favorite time of the year. So I'm an October baby,
So I'm a fall guy.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I'm a winter guy. But we have the Feasts of
the Seven Fishes.

Speaker 14 (45:46):
My first day is Monday, and we have an event
that night that's already sold out, Feast of the Seven Fishes.
That's a that's a huge deal. And then on the
tenth is the market mingle, the marry market mingle. So
that's the next big thing. You can go on cap
market dot net and get tickets stills for that one.
So those are our big events, and then you know
we're just getting you know, getting the market all festive.

(46:08):
I mean there's there's been people painting windows, and the
Christmas trees are there, and there's you know lights everywhere,
and of course, uh, you know we're gonna go judge
Christmas trees after this, you know, at Holly Jolly Brawley,
So we're involved with that and it's just a really
exciting time to you know, dive in with with two feet.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And you talk about and this is what Tony and
I were talking about a little earlier about Charleston really
becoming a holiday Christmas destination. I mean between Holly Jolly
Brawley and the Light the Night and just everything else
through the largest Christmas parade around that'll be next week,
and and what's going on at Capital Market and just

(46:48):
I mean there's so many things going on in Charleston
at one time for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (46:53):
I got my my market email set up and the calendar. Candice,
the director of Market and Communications at the Capital Market,
started adding things to my calendar and I was like
flipping through and I was like, Okay, this event's that night,
this of the parades, this night, the market mingles, this night,
it's loaded. And I think that speaks well of Charleston
that there's always something going on and the synergy that

(47:14):
the market has with downtown and you know, there's there's
you know, trolley's going around taking you from place to place,
and there's vendors and there's music, and there's something to
do every night, you know, this weekend with the tree
lighting ceremony. So I think it's really cool the vibe
and the momentum that Charleston has, especially around the holidays.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Talking to Chuck mcguild again, who is the new director
of a Capital Market, I want to throw this in here,
this little promotion that we're going to be doing starting
next week. You can save up to sixty percent off,
says WV Bargains.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
Won't be caught.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Save up to sixty percent off on items like certificates
to Eddie's Tyron Service, pest control services from Spotlight Pest Control, gas,
fireplaces from Fireside, and patio tent rentals from Quantum, sixty
percent off car detailing services from Oaks Citiado, Spa jewelry
certificates from pettit jwelry tax services from Penny Pincher, certificates
on bar furniture, and more items all across the valley
and across the state, really across state lines too in

(48:06):
our surrounding states where we have WVRC media properties. And
again it's going to kick off a next Monday. It'll
run through the fifth wv bargains dot Com. Wv Bargains
is a wv RC media promotion.

Speaker 3 (48:16):
All right.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
So we talked about some of the struggles of capital market,
mainly not of your own doing but or the market's undoing,
but just because you are kind of landlocked there. But
on your wish list, and I'm not saying these are
going to be promises from Chuck McGill, okay, but on
your wish list, what would you like to see?

Speaker 3 (48:34):
I think I've been really encouraged.

Speaker 14 (48:36):
So I've been in Huntington for nine years, but We've
come back all the time because Charleston's my home. My
mom and dad are here, my aunts and uncles are here,
cousins are here. And what I've seen from the downtown
and how you know, a rising tideless all boats situation,
so you get five Street and then you get Short
Story for example. I think having the area around the

(48:57):
market also lifted up benefit the market. Yeah, so I
think that's a very long term, ambitious goal. But with
the ballpark there and the light, the night and all
that brings and kind of the the natural flow to
the market, if if the area around the market was
also enhanced, I think that would benefit the market a lot.

(49:18):
With its proximity to the interstate and the you know,
the interchanges there and the easy on and off, I
would love to see that area kind of lifted up
like the Downtown's been listed it lifted up. But that's
a you know, very long way outside of my control
exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
But that's why that's why we call it a wish list. Yeah,
you know, absolutely, And you're.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Talking about being in Huntington. I think it's amazing what
they have done with Pullman Square in Huntington because I
was a student at Marshall in the early nineteen nineties
and we all remember the super Block. It had been
talked about going back to the eighties. They're going to
build this big thing down and it was just promise
after promise broke. It and then loan thehold one day,
Pullman Square pops up and it has totally revitalized that.

Speaker 14 (49:56):
Area absolutely, and that's a great blueprint for us to follow.
And I've watched that, you know, I went to Huntington
in twenty sixteen and was able to watch that kind
of evolve over the years.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
So that's that's, you know, in in game, that would
be my top goal.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
All right, well, Chuck, I appreciate you stopping by the show,
and I know you.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Can to do great things over there.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
You got a great marketing director and Candice, but you
also got a great board of directors over there. Big
shout out to my man Steve Keith and there you
guys over there. So we'll let you get out of
here and let you go downtown and judge from Christmas
trees and we'll have you on a few more times
between now and Christmas, and of course you're always welcome
here throughout out the year. Appreciate you, man, All right,
thank you, Dave, All right, thanks a lot. We're going
to transition over talking to my man TJ. Meadows coming
up a talk line at the top. Hang out with

(50:38):
me just once. Can you give me like two or
three minutes because I need to talk to you a
little bit. Okay, but but I'm gonna turn your microphone off.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
How's that all right?

Speaker 3 (50:45):
DJ Meadows is here? What you got on talking?

Speaker 2 (50:47):
It's the after show, buddy, that's what you stayed around for,
the after show, the after party.

Speaker 15 (50:52):
A ten oh six E. Gordon Ghee joins us today.
You know, doctor Gee penned another commentary that was in
the Hill talking about college athletics.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
He's been talking more now that he's not.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
A president, which I really enjoy.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
So we're gonna get into that with Gordon.

Speaker 15 (51:07):
We'll probably talk Thanksgiving in a host of other things
as well with him. Bridget Lambert of the West Virginia
Retailers Association on Black Friday joins us at ten thirty.
Hobby's in at eleven six. He's got issues with what
the CDC has done about vaccine mornings courtesy of Robert
Kennedy Junior. So we'll talk about that and I'm sure
other you know, top like, there's nothing to talk about.

(51:29):
There's nothing going on that Hobby would want to opine about.
My buddy Mike McKenna has a great piece out. He's
a columnist for The Washington Times talking about Thanksgiving. We'll
speak with him on that. I want to pick his
brain on a few things Trump. You know, he used
to be He was in the Trump administration during the
first term, and so he's got that unique perspective as well.
I want to talk abouit about tariffs. I want to

(51:51):
talk about going after Comy and several other things with
Mike as well.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
All right, now, programming note, there will be no local
show of mine tomorrow and Friday. I'll be back on Monday,
but Metro News Midday is coming up later today. We'll
have a best of Metro News Midday tomorrow and then
a live show on Friday. No Amanda Baron on Friday
for Metro News Midday, I will be here. Speedy Bevans
Broadcasting legend will be my guest. Yeah, pretty cool, Pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I might to stick around and just listen to it.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Well, come on in, come on in, man, All right,
we gotta go. I'll see you later today. I'll Metro
News Midday until later. I have to thank for a minute.
I have fun and love somebody