12/08/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - David Payne, Tom Susman, Danny Jones

David Payne from Charleston Riverfront Watersports and members of the Charleston Police toy drive, Tom Susman on Kanawha County Ambulance, and former Charleston Mayor Danny Jones.

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Coming up a little bit later on. Tom Susman is
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the canaw County Emergency Ambulance Service Authority at high Mark
Blue Cross Blue Shield have reached in a contract agreement

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on the reimbursements from high Mark, so they're spokesman. Tom
Susman's going to join us talk about that. Plus Danny
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We have a few guests to start us off. They
want to welcome in first, David Payne, who is from
Charleston Riverfront Water Sports. Good morning, sir, welcome to the show.

(02:43):
Good morning, Thanks for having me. I was just sitting
there thanking man. Nothing would be better right now than
to be on the river on a day like today.
But I say that in jest. But you got some
things going on right through the holiday season. I mean
they would make it perfect, right, correct. Correct.

Speaker 6 (02:58):
We started a service is called the Charleston Christmas Story Tour.
It's kind of like a Bronco tour through the city
of Charleston. It will we'll take people out to look
at the lights of Charleston, just take them to the
iconic neighborhoods and those kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
All right, Well, talk about the part on the river.
I mean, how did you start this company? Why did
you start this company?

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Basically I started this company, Charleston Miverfront Water Sports, just
because I love being the water first of all, and
Charleston really lacked that here it would, you know, I
love being the water. Just want to give other people
opportunity to get on the water. We rent out basically pontoons, kayaks,
paddle boards, hydro bikes. It just gives people something to
do when they actually visit the city of Charleston.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And again we're talking about it's winter time. It's not
officially winter, but it looks like it out there right now.
But I know there was a lot of activities going
on on the river Saturday night, and the Saint Albans
had their boat parade Saturday night. There was all kinds
of cool things going on even this time of year.

Speaker 6 (03:53):
Correct, correct, Yeah, boats are still out in the water. Actually,
we keep our boats on the water all year long.
So if there happens to be a day where it
actually becomes warm, if someone wants to get out in
the water, will take them.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
All right, and that I mean, it's an exciting venture.
But to you're kind of like a serial entrepreneur man,
you've always got all kinds of things going on. Tell
we'll talk about some of the other things you've got
going on.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Well, uh, there's a lot of things going on really,
but really it's all based around Charleston Miriverfront water Sports.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
I have an airbnb.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
This ran the Charleston Miverfront water Sports basically the top
soft tour we're gonna have this summer. We're gonna have
the Kid Safari Tour on the water. We don't have
a zoo here or an aquarium, but it's our way
of basic getting the kids out in the water and
showing them wildlife.

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a little something about even though I think you're retired now,

(04:55):
but you also know a little something about the Charleston
Police Department in there annual toy drivers or something you've
been a part of over the years. Oh, sure, definitely.
It's a great, great program.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
I'm glad that they're actually keeping up and going because
they service a lot of kids throughout the Canaw Valley.
It's something that's, uh, I always look forward to every year,
and I'm glad these guys are still looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Indeed, and these guys are me. Have you introduced yourselves again, gentlemen,
I'm Travis Bells, Charleston Police Partent man John Brown with
the Asteric Auto of Charleston. Also know it's Big John.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
When you when you when you're large a stature and
you have the name John, you're automatically Big John. You
realize that, right, It.

Speaker 7 (05:34):
Just goes with the name.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
I guess they'll the size. Travis will start with you.
Let's talk about why does Charleston Police do this and
what is the program?

Speaker 8 (05:42):
Well, every year for the last six years, thanks live
now retired Lieutenant Payne, we've gathered toys for as many
kids as we can help in the community. You know,
prior to that we would do the you know, the
shop with the cop but Lieutenant Payne figured, you know,
this would be a better way to reach more children.
So with the help of ask Borgatto, We've and all
our other sponsors, we've been able to reach hundreds of

(06:04):
children each year. So we're excited to keep that trend going.
We'll be up at the South Ridge Sam's Club this
year on the parking lot taking toys this weekend Friday,
Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
And what's the times on that.

Speaker 8 (06:16):
We'll be there from eight to nine in the morning
till about eight or nine at night.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, then I want to ask you what was your
what was the original idea behind this? So about about
getting this thing and how long? How long has it
been going on?

Speaker 6 (06:28):
This will be the sixth here, So basically when it
first started, it was during COVID. I reached out to
our FOP organization to see if we had money for
a shop with the cop and that year they didn't
have any money. And I said, basically, I never really
wanted us to be in that position again where we
couldn't go out and help kids. So I went to
the chief at the time and said, hey, listen, what
do you think about a toy drive? And he said,

(06:49):
let's roll with it. My idea back then basically was
having a truck, getting our truck going up under the
interstate and hopefully getting like a truckload of toys. One
thing led to the next, and it just came bigger
and better.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Reached out.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
A lot of my friends at Low's Astorg actually called
me that week, and they've made it bigger and better.
That's how it all started.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Basically, how many if you had to put a ballpark
figure on either the number of kids that you've served
or the number of toys you distributed either one.

Speaker 6 (07:16):
Well, I think last year it was probably close to
a thousand. We basically had about eight hundred kids that
signed up, but we also gave toys to our community centers,
our daycares.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I mean so many.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Toys went out last year. It was a huge I
would say probably close to a thousand.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
And how do kids sign up for this?

Speaker 8 (07:35):
Next week, after we've gathered most of our toys and
know how many we can help, we will open a
sign up link on the Charleston Police Department Facebook page.
There's also a Facebook page just for the Winner Winnerland
Toy Drive itself, which you can find easily off our
page or just you to do a Facebook search. But
we will open that up on there for anybody to
sign up. They can list how many kids they have,
their ages, and we'll until we're full well, will help

(07:57):
as many kids as we can.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
And this is open to any parent or grandparent that
wants to put a kid on or I guess anybody
for that matter.

Speaker 8 (08:03):
Right, Yeah, I'm not gonna turn any kids a way.
As long as we have the toys, we're gonna get
them out.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right. And uh, John, let's talk about Astrogato's part
in and in this whole thing.

Speaker 9 (08:13):
Well, Rob King and uh sergeant well Lieutenant Payne kind
of really got this started with astrokar of Charleston, and
then I think the following year I became Rob said,
hey man, we need some more helping, you know, getting
this thing out, and worried out about the toy drive
that we're we're coming involved with and an Astroig is

(08:34):
on board with it every year. You know Jamie Spears,
he's he's a very good owner and he wants to
try to help the community all all that he can.
So anything for the Charleston Police Apartment. I say, hey, Jamie,
I need to check. He said, Okay, go upstairs and
talk to Terry. But if you got toys and you
want to drop them off, like Sergeant Travis said up
in our last interview, which is a good idea. So uh,

(08:58):
if you see a Charleston Police Department just you know,
flagging or whatever, just driving and you can't make it
up to the to the new location at the Sam's
parking lot, just say hey, could you get these toys
to Lieutenant Sergeant Travis and Big John for the toy
drive so they could drop them off to our truck
that we're going to have at station at the at

(09:19):
the location.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
So anybody know what the hottest toys are this year,
what everybody's gonna be asking for. Because I don't I
don't have kids, so I wouldn't know.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
I have no idea that borderline to where they more
lut electronics and clothes. I'm not really I'm not really
sure about the tickle me elmos of the day.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
The yeah, but well see my my generation, it was
all hot wheels and matchboxing, I'm you know, those all
those all that stuff. So about as you know astwords
auto uh and you guys always go above and beyond
when it comes to doing things like this. Do you
get to actually go out when they when they distribute
the toys are I know, you folks will probably usually there,

(09:56):
aren't you.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, I'm there.

Speaker 9 (09:58):
We have it set up at the Civic center. I'm
sure we'll be at the same location. And some parents,
you know, they you know, they work and don't have
you know, some of the kids are still a little
and not able to I guess they don't have babysitters
that day. So you do see some of the kids
come in with the parents and it is kind of
a real touchy feeling, you know, you know, Lieutenant Payne

(10:21):
walk the kid around and let them pick out whatever
toys that they want, and you know, it was.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
It's just it's just it's just it's just good.

Speaker 9 (10:27):
It's for a good cause and it's it's a really
good feeling.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
The kids in the candy store analogy, Oh the kids
under toys. We'll tell them go pick you know, three
four toys.

Speaker 9 (10:36):
And you know, because some people will come in and say, well,
I signed up and I didn't get the email. And
if we have some leftovers, you know, like you know,
Lieutenant Payne and Sergeant Travis said, we don't want to
leave any kids out.

Speaker 4 (10:48):
You know, nobody's going to.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Be left behind.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
So we're going to try to distribute as many as
that we can.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
If I know, Astok is the kind of the presenting
sponsor on this, but any other businesses out there or
organizations that would like to get involved, you know, civic
groups or maybe a school as a service project would
like to take this on. How would they do that?
How would they get involved?

Speaker 9 (11:06):
Well, you can reach out to me my cell phone
three zero four four one five five two zero eight.
You can stop by astrok Auto of Charleston Extra, John
Brown or Rob King. You can drop toys off at
any of our locations. We also have a location on
Patrick Street Plaza Asteroid location and also we're up at

(11:27):
the main facilities of the South Ridge next to Applebee's.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
All right, give us the details again, Go ahead, Travis.

Speaker 8 (11:33):
Yeah, it'll be this weekend Friday, starrying Sunday the twelve
thirteenth or fourteenth, at the Sames Club parking lot. Well,
you won't be able to miss this, so we're going
to have all kinds of decorations. We'll be there taking
toys and get them into the hands of the kids
that need them.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, somebody, I know Thursday night, the Charleston Christmas Parade
is being held. I know you guys are going to
be really really busy there, but you probably have some
information you probably would accept. Somebody wanted to me you
don't want to get bogged down with toys when you're
trying to direct traffic or whatever, but not a horrible idea. Yeah, yeah,
bring them down there.

Speaker 8 (12:01):
I'll probably be on Summer Street near our office there
in slack Plausa, So if you track me down, I'll
make sure I can at least I'll take them. I'll
find something to do with them.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
What about cash donations if somebody wants to do that.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
I know that the Charleston Sizons Police Academy Alumnae Association
is taking cash donations. There's a link to that on
the Facebook page as well.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
All right, well guys, it's always a pleasure to have
you here. We're glad to be able to help you
out with this. Thanks for stopping by, which is the
best of luck with everything this weekend. Thanks a lot
of guys, Thank you, Thanks for all right, hang out
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announcement came Friday that the Canawa County Emergency Ambulance Authority
and high Marked Blue Cross Blue Shield as it pertains
a reimbursement for the ambulance services, had reached an agreement.
Tom Sussman as a spokesperson for the ambulance service and
it joined us. Now, good morning, sir, and welcome to

(15:30):
the show.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Good morning, happy Snowy. Was this Monday?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's a Monday. It's a Monday all around.
So what was we had you on when this news
first came out about the what's the word I'm looking
for about the conflict, if you will like a better term.
What was a major bone of contention here?

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Well, the issue was that it cost a certain amount
to deliver ambulance services in this county and the level
of reimbursement that we were getting from high Mark was
below that cost, and we needed to readjust those rates.
Don't believe that they were in a position that they
wanted to do that, and so if you can't make

(16:12):
it work, then you basically have to decide how you
want to proceed. And the authority decided to give them
a nose of cancelation, and then we kind of went
back and forth for about a month and a half
and I only came to an agreement and rescinded the cancelation.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Well, and when I had you on a couple of
months ago, when this news first came out, you know,
we were hopeful that we would get that we would
get it settled and get it sut settled relatively quickly.
And it seems to me like you did.

Speaker 7 (16:40):
Well. I mean, it took a while. But what we
wanted to do is there were folks that were making
decision on their Medicare advantage for Blue Cross, Blue Shield
or Human or whomever, and so we wanted to give
them plenty of notice of what we were doing. And
we also wanted to give them notice you know, the
deadlines today, to let them know that, hey, you know,
we've gotten it, got.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
It resolved, okay, all right, So I guess it took
a little bit longer than I thought that. Yeah, yeah, okay,
And how were the negotiations. I don't know if you
were actually part of it. I know you're the spokesparts,
but how were the negotiations.

Speaker 7 (17:11):
We're fine. I mean, you go back and forth. It's
the normal negotiations. You know, they get mad at you,
You get mad at them, they get mad at you,
You get back at you.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Then you come to well, luckily you have a little
bit of background in that, being in the legislature as
you were for years and being in the political game,
you know, so you had a little bit of background
in this.

Speaker 7 (17:27):
And I'd worked with the MS Coalition probably twenty years
ago before I went into state government with Governor Wise,
and we'd gone back and forth. So this is this
is there, and the reality is that the cost to
deliver ambulance service is pretty significant. You have to be
ready to deliver that. And the folks that are paying

(17:49):
for these services, especially these third party payers and terms companies,
they need to pay their fair share. We weren't asking
them to pay dollars above what was their responsibility. We
weren't trying to, you know, have them pay for people
who couldn't pay what.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Would have been tom the worst case scenario.

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Here rab the worst case scenario is that had there
not been a contract come to or an agreement agreed to,
then folks who were in Blue Cross blue Shield would
have been billed by the ambulance agency and not build
to blue Cross, and then we would have had to
go for those folks to collect. And Blue Cross is

(18:27):
one of the few ambulance companies that if you're a
few insurance companies rather that if you're a non contracted provider,
they send the payment directly to the member and the
member cannot do an assignment of benefits to the provider.
So like if you go into the hospital and you
have to go to the emergency room, people signed papers,
those bills are paid to the hospital and not to

(18:51):
the individual. With Blue Cross, they want those dollars, they
want those those moneys to go to the member if
they're a non contracted provider. And for e merging care,
you don't get to choose your provider. You don't get
to choose the patient. So if you're a physical therapist,
not to pick on center attire, but if you're a
physical therapist and I want to get service, his folks

(19:12):
can take a look and see if he's got insurance
and don't have insurance and they can deal with it accordingly.
With an emergency call, you can't make that decision. You
have to go take care of the patient. You have
to go bring that person to the hospital. That's the
duty of an ambulance company. Well, in that situation, those
reimbursements should be treated differently than scheduled care. And so

(19:33):
one of the by products that this is that I
think the Authority and other members of the coalition are
going to ask the legislature to deal with this. Is
it's been dealt with. I think in forty some other
states where for emergent care there is an automatic assignment
of benefits if the member wants it.

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And I think there is a I think a miss
conception sometimes time that people will think that, well, if
I have to go to the er, whether it's an
ambulance called or whatever, that I can be turned away.
They cannot turn you away.

Speaker 7 (20:08):
Now, you can't. First off, in an ambulans emergency, anlets
is not going to turn you away in the hospital.
There's this federal law it's called MTALA don't tell me.
I can't tell you what it stands for, but it
requires them to triage and stabilize. And so, yeah, you're
not going to get turned away from the hospital.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Are you liberty to discuss the actual negotiations? I mean
any of the details that went into that.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, we worked through and we.

Speaker 7 (20:33):
Made it where what we came to agreement on includes
our commercial business and ASO business, and it also covers
Medicare advantage and it's a pretty decent What's also been
a nice byproduct is we've heard from other insurance companies
that we were going to go to to talk with
them about contracts. So it's really opened the door for

(20:54):
multiple contracts with different insurance companies.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Well, we have a story written about it, Aaron Parker
did Friday afternoon at wv metronews dot com. If you
want to go read more about it. Well, I guess congratulations.
Are glad glad that it got taken care of it? Well,
congratulations not the right word, but I'm glad I got
taken care of I.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
Mean, did we get everything we wanted?

Speaker 12 (21:11):
No?

Speaker 7 (21:12):
Did they get everything? They wanted no, So I guess
it's a good agreement.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
All right.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Can we talk a little politics while you're here, Yes, sir?
All right? Right, so we got the interims are going
on now, people starting to look ahead to the special
session or I mean, I'm sorry to the regular session.
Anything anything that sticks out to you that you that
you think that is going to be big this time around.
I mean it is an election year, you know, the
all the House seats are up, some of the Senate

(21:37):
seats are up. So does anything get done now?

Speaker 7 (21:40):
I was saying with someone and I think they're going
to try and look at this this tax on intangibles again,
and I think this little property tax work around to
try and figure out how you deal with that, because
I don't know that it's it's functioning as well. I
heard that that's that's always a good one. And then
the government keeps talking about some kind of tax relief,
so I don't know where that takes us. And then

(22:02):
if the if the federal government does not renew these
federal tax credits, then the question is going to become
as what does the state do. When I'm saying tax
credits for for the affordable care Act, What does the
state do for a for folks who are uninsured bull
those are folks who are too sick to get insurance
and p E I. There'll be some discussion on p I,

(22:23):
but a three percent increase compared to what's going on
in the in the private market, that's not a bad increase. Vaccines,
I'll call that will be a big one. That one
will well, we'll be back to the vaccine. And that's
one where And I think what's interesting is so within
the Republican Party you now have the closed Republican primaries.
So therefore I think that the members who are nominated

(22:46):
from the Republican Party will be much more conservative than
a lot of the current members by virtue of that.
So then does that open the door for moderate Democrats
and I mean moderate, not not the far right far
left to pick up some seats. It's going to change
the whole complexion of the legislature.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Here's my take on it when it comes to and
you're absolutely right about the Republican Party. I mean some
of the members that are that are in there now
and I'm not going to mention anyone specifically, but there
are certain members that serve in this area that are
considered pretty far right, but we're now seeing people that
are saying that those people aren't far right enough exactly.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
And then you have a whole group of moderature running
candidates to try and take out members of the state
Senate who are too conservative, and I think their issue
is going to be this closed primary, because the closed
primary is going to lean even more to the far right.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Do you think Senator Justice wants to come back and
run for governor in twenty sixteen? You know, twenty sixteen?

Speaker 4 (23:47):
What year?

Speaker 3 (23:49):
No, you're wrong, twenty We're in the wrong decade, were
the wrong?

Speaker 2 (23:55):
You know?

Speaker 7 (23:55):
I think probably there's some nostalgia. But then when you
think about it being in the senate's not a bad gig.
I mean, you know, probably you know what they call it,
the most exclusive men's club or club in the world.
You know, I don't. And then you come back here
and then you've got to worry about all the various
things that happens.

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as well. Do you want to throw this out there?
Speaking to the Championships, we had a lot of folks
asking about Joe Bricado. Joe Bacado, we called him the
hardest working man in sports, and of course he does
writing for us, he does on air, he does videography.
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don't mean to laugh about it during one of the
games over it lately and a little scary there for
a minute. I wasn't at the game. But I had
a friend of mine that was watching it on Metro
News television and he texted me and he said, is
Joe all right? And I said, well, I don't know.
And it was during the Saturday afternoon game and I
was able to talk to Joe Saturday night. He was
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(28:44):
of those players coming right at you. You didn't see
it coming, and he ran over. But Joe Bro is
a trooper, and he was saying to the hospital and
released and is recovering. He did have to watch the
Nitro game from his hotel room from what I understand though,
because they that's probably not a good idea for you
to go back on the sideline, so they put him.

(29:04):
He went back to the hotel and finished the game there.
But Joe Bro is gonna be all right. Danny Jones
is with us right now. Good morning, sir, Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Danny Bro, Danny Bro, you like that?

Speaker 3 (29:14):
No, Danny Bro, you know I want to ask you
this because of course, there's a lot on the weather
right now, not a huge snowstorm, any stretching the imagination,
but it is going to cost some slick travel already
a little bit, but especially like this afternoon, it's going
to be really really slick as folks start to head home.
As a mayor, I'm sure you probably don't miss that,
do you having to watch the weather. I meant you

(29:36):
had quality people in charge of the streets, but I
mean you got to be a big part of it
as well. That's probably one part of being mayor you
don't miss.

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Right, And.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
You know, they make a big deal of this new
mayor in New York. He's you know what he's gonna
find out. He's gonna find out about snow, about garbage,
about police and fire. He doesn't realize he's gonna that's

(30:04):
all part of being in the weeds is mayor. And
he thinks this is gonna be he's gonna be have
a foreign policy and you know, invade Israel or do
something like that.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
But he needs to be more concerned about, yeah, just
about the brocks that he does Israel.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Just well, just the nuts and bolts of being mayor.
And you've got to have a certain amount of salt
backed up over their street department, and you have to
picking up garbage. It's a big deal. And if you
think it's not a big deal, try going without it.

(30:44):
We had a garbage strike in nineteen seventy two and
I was working at the graveyard. I was taking graves
and they came up there and this one guy is
still alive. They came up there and there was three
guys in a car and the guy in the back
seat was as big as a back seat, and he

(31:07):
has shotgun. And they told us to get off the
hill and be at the council meeting on Monday night.
And it was a raucous council meeting. Who was mayor
at that time, Hutchinson, and so garbage dollars started piling up.
It was a street department. It was a garage, a

(31:30):
garbage strike. It was a garbage strike in the street department.
Everybody went out and it was and Hutcheson stood up
and and and beat them and a bunch of people.
You know, people worked for the city generationally. I mean
you have family after family that their kids, their grandparents, everybody,

(31:54):
they stay at the city. Well this interrupted that because
they fired a lot of people and I left. I
went and started selling bottled water for Tyler Mountain.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Remember that was one of your jobs. You had, yeah,
a job. I mean everybody knows mayor, sheriff and all
this other stuff. But if you got down with a
piece of paper and you wrote down how many different
jobs have you had?

Speaker 4 (32:14):
Thirty five?

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Now that's thirty five different places you worked at thirty
five different job at different occupations.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Well, there's not that many job because I mean I
was a waiter at Greenboro Military School. I've got that listed.
That's not a job. I mean I got paid, but
and I was on the Civic Center board of directors.
That's not the job. So but I don't know. I

(32:43):
had quite a few. And sometimes i'd worked two and
three at one time. When I was a junior in
high school, I worked two jobs at one time.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
How are things going with the book?

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Well, we saw all we completely sold out, and I've
got two hundred more copies coming in. But and when
when will those being I'd say, I'd say ten days.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
What's the uh? Since we talked last week? People that
I mean, because I know you said you're completely sold out,
So I know whether you have any new copies out there,
but maybe somebody's read some other or somebody let somebody
borrow it or whatever. What are you hearing out there
about the book. What do people think about What's what's
a Responseibil.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Well, I don't know. If anybody didn't like it, they
would tell me.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Well I would tell you, because I'm your friend, I
probably tell you off the air. But I enjoyed it.
I thoroughly enjoyed it. I finished it in like a
couple of evenings, you know, back to back.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
And I have a friend in North Carolina, lives in Wilmington,
and he is he's practiced law here and uh, he
practiced with Rudy de trappin though, and uh he called me,
he said, man, that was great, and it was there.

(33:58):
It's a mix of my crazy life when I was
when I was young. But there's Charleston history there well.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
And it's not just when you were young. I mean
you also you dive into a lot of your last
administration and the battle with it, with the needle issue
and some other things that are that are a little
bit more current or within the last ten you know,
the last term that you had.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
Yeah, it was just for the record, I just thought
i'd mention Huntington close down their needle program. So it
was the right thing to do.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
So you mentioned it. You asked me if I if
I saw Marjorie Taylor Green on sixty Minutes last night.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
I meant to watch it and I forgot. I'm gonna
go check it out later today online. What's you take
away from the MTG interview?

Speaker 4 (34:47):
It's on YouTube. I felt sorry for I mean, her
views and my views obviously different. She doesn't think we
ought to be involved in Israel or Iran or any

(35:07):
of that stuff because I'm America First. And you know, folks,
we had an America First Movement. Please google it, America
First Committee and google it. It was led by a
guy named Charles Lindbergh, and it helped get us into

(35:29):
World War Two. She's an isolationist, but she didn't deserve
to be treated the way Trump treated her. Call her
Marjory Trayer Green. And he never had a bigger supporter
in Congress. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I think had is the key word there.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Yeah, And it's just because she she wanted to open
up those Epstein files. That's what he got mad about
and started calling her names.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
And now she's announced her resignation. What do you think
she does next? I think she runs for something else.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
No, I think being in public life has really cost her,
cost her her marriage. I think it hurt her construction business.
Now she's opened up a gym and you know she
dead list.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
Yeah, I've read that.

Speaker 4 (36:24):
Yeah, she's a really strong lady physically, she's.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But I mean, in my opinion, I mean, she's going
to either have her own show or she's going to
be a frequent contributor because she's very whether you agree
with her or not, Danny, she's very well spoken in
what she says. And and you know, I'm gonna say
this is nicely as I as I can. You know,
she is not hard to look at, which helps. I

(36:53):
know that sounds like the most sexist statement in the world,
but it's true, male or female. If you're if you're
appealing on camera, people are going to watch.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Well, it won't be on Fox.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
No, No, it won't be on Fox.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
If it would be on anybody, it would be on CNN.
But she's been on with Dana Bash a few times.
But I like her and I felt bad for her.
And I just don't know why presence or has to
call people names. I don't I don't understand.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's what he does, and in many cases that's what
his base wants and they love it.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
Well, Marjorie or Taylor Green used to be part of
that base, a leading part of that base. And uh,
I just I think it's sad and she based her
campaign and her career right around him. Hey, there's I
just was watching up here on the TV and Netflix

(37:55):
came across the came across the screen and on Netflix
there's a thing called The Reckoning and it's done by
Curtis Jackson, also known as fifty cent yep, and it's

(38:15):
about P Diddy. Yeah, he's as evil as they come.
He's as bad as it gets.

Speaker 10 (38:22):
Do you know that?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
There's every reason to believe. And there's a trial next
year on a guy that was involved. It looks like
he's the one that paid deaf Tupac killed somebody.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
A friend of mine who's really into the into that scene,
posted something on social media that he watched it and
he called it complete garbage. But I don't know. I mean,
it's in the eyes ears of the beholder, I get that.
But he he wasn't a fan of it. I mean,
my friend who really follows was not a fan of it.
He did I don't know if he just didn't believe
the story or what he didn't believe. Fifty's story, well,

(39:00):
most of its have better or a record. And people
don't like to have their heroes attack. Maybe that's what
it is. You know, they don't want to believe things
about their heroes. Maybe that's it. So I have to
check that out because I love stuff like that when
it comes to entertainment, biographies and things that I want
to ask you. You've been following the whole Pete Higgseth
drug boat story.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Okay, your take on it. I wouldn't have voted for
him to begin with. I don't like him. I mean,
I don't think he belonged there, and and I don't
think anything will come of it. The Democrats don't have
They will control Congress next year. They will win the election.

(39:44):
They will take over at least the House of Representatives
and maybe the Senate. I don't know how many Senate
seats are up or where they are up, but I
would look for Trump once that happens in the House,
I would look for him to the impeached, and that
might be a count.

Speaker 3 (40:03):
I was watching one of the I think it was
this week yesterday morning, and they were talking to one
leading Republican. I can't I don't remember exactly who it
was right now, but they were talking to him and
they asked him about the the the drug boat story,
and it's just you could tell it was something right
out of the Trump playbook because he turned it around
and said, you know why the American people don't care
about this American the American people people care about this.

Speaker 7 (40:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Well it was the pardoning of of of the of
the of the foreign leader that was that was in
West Virginia. He was in prison of West Virginia.

Speaker 8 (40:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
And he was a convicted drug dealer, sold you know,
I mean a whole lot of cocaine in his time,
and Trump pardoned him former president of one of these
countries and yeah, Honduras, Yeah and uh and they said
that the uh this this representative said, well, the American
people don't really don't care about things like that.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Uh and forty tons of uh of cocaine coming in
this country. It'll about that, That's.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
What they say.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
Hmm exactly.

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I guess you're always referred to as mayor, aren't you,
even when you're not. It's kind of like being president.

(41:24):
You're always going to be referred to it.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
Right right?

Speaker 3 (41:26):
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Speaker 4 (41:33):
Why are you asking me?

Speaker 3 (41:34):
I don't know. I guess maybe they think would you
support it? Or I mean, maybe that's what they're asking.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
I always supported it. It was my It was my
car show, right I started it.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
And and if you want to clear the air again,
because you made it a point a couple of weeks
ago you were the mayor.

Speaker 4 (41:51):
Didn't she didn't shut it down. It was shut down
by the people that were running it. They shut it
down right at the end, so there wasn't time to replace. Okay,
it's really sad. Yeah, there was a beautiful car show.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
But the text was on to say, great hearing Danny
on your program again. Thank you so and we like
to bring him. Look, you know who you look like
when you came in here today. You got the flannel
shirt and it looked like hal Holdbrook. I don't know why.
For some reason I thought it, maybe because I watched
an episode of The Sopranos over the weekend. They were
doing a marathon, and I love the Sopranos, and he

(42:25):
was he was on an episode of the Sopranos. Maybe
how Old Brooke was? Yeah, yeah, he was a He
was just like a one episode type deal. He was
in a hospital when Tony was recovering h from the
gunshot wound. He was also in the hospital and he
was very like played a philosopher and a very succesful
business type. But that's when I when you walked in,
the first thing I thought was here comes hell Holdbrook.

Speaker 4 (42:45):
Yeah he was how Old Brookshit, he was a great actor.
I can't remember who's married to.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Was he married to Dixie Carter of Designing Women? Or
am I just totally making that up. I don't know
he was on the show. Tex says empty g referring
to Marjorie Taylor. Green deserves everything she's received. She's reaping
the toxicity from the toxic politics she's sown.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Well, she's apologized for that, and I you know, okay,
that's fair. Yeah, you know, you reap what you sow.
I just look at it. I guess because I'm seventy
five years old, I look at these things a little
different these days. I feel bad for I really do.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
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(46:14):
Hegseth drug boat war crime is a perfect metaphor for
current America. You know they're lying details constantly, change or
come out the boat was going the opposite direction of
the US, but ultimately nothing will happen.

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Well, the fact the boat was going in the opposite
direction doesn't mean much to me. But that doesn't mean
that those guys should have been shot. I don't know,
I don't know, but nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
And they talk about the you know, the drugs, and
I'm all about whatever it takes to keep the drugs
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it's been proving time and time again, that's not where
fentanyl's coming.

Speaker 4 (46:54):
From Mexico, from China through Mexico, Texas.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
What trial related Tubax murderers Danny talking about.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
Well, in the in the in the presentation, the guy
that shot first thing, P Diddy paid a million dollars
for the hit, but he wanted sug Knight killed also,

(47:26):
So there were two guys involved, and on a profer,
one guy confessed and he's the one going on trial. Okay,
And because they didn't kill sug Knight, you only got
a half a million dollars. So the guy that confessed,
he didn't get any money. So I'm just I'm telling

(47:50):
you to watch that if you want to watch, if
you're look, I'm an old man. I like to watch
stuff like that. I mean, I'm not I don't know
anything about rap or hip hop or and that stuff,
but except for the politics of it. And who doesn't
like Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
I mean, I love you talk about somebody who has
who came out of nowhere and has made a career
out of just being Snoop Dogg. Forget about the music.
I mean, the guy's a star. I mean he's in
everything you know, and he has been and he has
been for over thirty years.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
He's so smart, he's uh and you know, I'm friends
with people out in Long Beach. I'll see him this weekend.
I'm going out there this weekend. I'll see him. They
went to high school with it, you know, because he's
where he's from.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Yeah, tex says this is going to be along with
Danny so strap In. Why does Trump do it? It's
basically it's because basically amongst their own circles when we
hear a lot of anti American bes stuff from lefties
and Congress and the media, especially the self destruction infiltration
that happened to the Biden administration letting twelve mill illegals

(49:00):
in here, we say the same stuff. The only thing
is he says it publicly about his name calling really Hitler, nazi, pedophile,
white supremacist, racist, homophobe, transphobes, enophobe, et cetera. All this
stuff that he's been called for ten years by most
everybody who loved him before he came down that escalator
in twenty fifteen, not to mention trying to put him
in prison and being shot.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
That's why that doesn't justify it. He's the president. You
think Nixon wasn't called names or any of these presidents.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
We know Obama was, Clinton, and Reagan and Bush.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
And yeah, sure they were. That doesn't justify it just
because he was called names. You don't. I made that mistake,
you know, taking the baits. He doesn't have to take
the bait now. It's I mean, it's a difference in style, right,
My style is Mitt Romney, that's my style, or Richard

(49:56):
Nixon not, That's just not my style.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
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large latest legal wrangling over the Hilton brand hotel at
the former Sears site. Matt Sutton said the whole group
is once again interfering and that hotel developer even completed
Has they ever completed a project in Charleston?

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Oh what the Patels. Wonder who he's talking about?

Speaker 3 (50:24):
Not TJ. Would you happen to know who the who
what we're talking about here? Not off the top of
my head.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
Sorry, all right, Well, but he he lost that case,
you know, when they went to tear the building down.
He lost the case. The mall did. But you're talking
about the Hilton Gardens.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, and I mean it's it's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I believe that's the Patel group.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Okay, all right, So you and I have talked a
little bit about the town Center in the past, and
people keep circulating. There was a picture circul thing you
probably saw it on social media of the Santa Claus
sitting down there with nobody around.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It is sad, very sad, and it didn't need to happen.
But if you were intentionally trying to destroy enterprise, you
do exactly what they're doing Texas.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
What about going back to the drug boats again, what
about the fact that the boats that have been blown up,
boats of that size, they can't get to America unless
they're carrying three thousand pounds of fuel. Which seems unlikely
if they're also carrying fentanyl.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Yeah, but that doesn't mean or cocaine. If you don't mind,
it's not fentanyl. But it doesn't mean they couldn't stop
somewhere and get gas one of the islands, you know.
But I mean, I'm lost. Nothing's gonna happen. It's just talk.

(51:49):
It's just something to absorb the space.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
Does hag Seth keep his job?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
Yeah, yeah, he shouldn't.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Does he complete the term? I'll say that No, I
don't know. I don't think he will either. And that's
not uncommon, by the way, for secretaries of war or
defense or whatever you want to call him. You know
that that's not uncommon any.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Well, now he's going to have anywhere to go. Remember
he was a he was a he was a weekend
gown fox. Where's he gonna go.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
He's gonna go to the Marjorie Taylor Green Route. He
can go back to that. I guess Danny will not
be with us next week. We'd be traveling. We'll see
you in two weeks, my friend. Thank you, thanks a lot.
I TJ. What you got today?

Speaker 15 (52:29):
Matt Christiansen CDC has changed b VAX Guidance Hill outline.
We'll discuss cafe standards on automobiles. Chris Miller gets into
it with us on that, and then uh, we're also
going to talk a little bit about what's coming up
at the legislature.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
David all right, I will see you later today on
Metro News Midday. Be careful out there till then, have
fun and love somebody, will you.

Speaker 7 (53:04):
C H s A M.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
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Speaker 3 (53:12):
We're proud to live here too.