12/10/2025 The Dave Allen Show on 580 Live - Bob Thompson, Adam Harris, Jason Huffman, Shawn Zuniga, Kerri Carte

Dave talks with Bob Thompson & Adam Harris about the Joy to the World concerts, Jason Huffman of Americans for Prosperity, Shawn Zuniga about the City of South Charleston's Chritmas events and Kerri Carte aobut the Breakfast with Santa at Camp Virgil Tate.

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Jason Huffman from Americans for Prosperity will be here. Yesterday,
the Republicans, led by House Speaker Roger Hanshaw, had a
press event to lay out the legislative agenda for the
Party of the upcoming session. Be interesting to get Jason's
take on that and whatever else happens to beyond his mind.
One of the biggest Christmas events each year, Breakfast with Santa,
happening this weekend at Camp Virgil Table. Talk to Kerry

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cart about that, plus speaking at Christmas Sean Zanage from
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five five zero zero want to welcome to the show now,
legendary musician extraording their Bob Thompson. How you doing, my
friend great good to be here. And and this guy

(02:12):
Adam Harris is here too.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Emotional support.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Adam Harris from Mountain Stage is here as well. Thank
you both for being here today.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Join to the world.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Thursday and Friday night starts at eight at the Culture
Center on the Capitol Grounds, produced by Western India Public
Broadcasting in the Mountain Stage.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
How many years has this been going on by this
will be our thirty third year. And what led to
the beginning of it? I mean, where did the old
idea come from?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
Well, the idea actually came from Don Wafer, who was
a producer at that time at Public Broadcasting. He just
made a suggestion and so we gave it a try
for a year and it took off and people came.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
So thirty three years later, here we are. Yeah, they
keep coming. How's it changed over the years.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
Well, when we started out, we started with guests from
within the region and now we have guests from all
over the all over the country.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (03:05):
Our guess like this year is the great Catherine Russell.
So but it's progressive. We have added to the band
this year. We'll have a guest trumpet player, James Moore.
So we've done things like that.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
But let me tell you about James Moore. James Moore
is a is a very good friend of mine. He's
the president of West Virginia Wesleyan University. There's not a
lot of university presidents that say oh and on their
business card and oh, by the way, I'm a music
guy too. He's a fantastic human being. He and I
been French for years, but he is. He's a real
deal when it comes and you played with the best
of them, and you are the best of them, so

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you know he's the real deal.

Speaker 6 (03:43):
Yeah, he's a great trumpet player. So we call his
his West Virginia Westerland presidency his day job.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And this is a fun job he does on the weekend.
He does a great job.

Speaker 8 (03:54):
Or that my job.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Adam talk about Adam Harrison Mountain say talk about Mountain
Stage and Public Broadcasting about their involvement with this.

Speaker 9 (04:02):
Oh yeah, sure, so, I mean a lot of the
people who work on Mountain Stage to produce those shows.
We do twenty four live events a year. We all
kind of team up to work with Bob to produce
Joy to the World as well, and so a lot
of the same people are involved. And we also were
taping for television on Thursday night and that'll air next year,
and we take both nights for radio. And so Bob
and his team actually just edited last year's performance for

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broadcast this year. And so like with every show, Dave,
as you know, there's a million details, yeah, to take
care of because it's not just a live event. It's
a live event with tickets, with rooming lists, and then
we have to do the set list, the playlists, the editing,
and that's all a huge undertaking, and Bob, you know,
steps right back in to help edit those broadcasts for
next year and so and I should tell folks to

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try to look for the broadcast of last year's show.
Judith Owen, who's a Welsh singer now based in New Orleans,
and she brought her own horn player with her and
it's one of the best shows we did. Judith is
an amazing performer. She's a great singer and dancer and
even did like a heartbreaking song at the piano by herself,
so really engaging. And Catherine Russell, who is our guest

(05:07):
this year you can come see in Charleston Thursday and Friday,
is an incredible jazz and blues singer. And it's in
her blood, like right, Bob, Her dad was a bandleader, right.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Her dad, the late Great Lewis Russell, was the pianist, composer,
band leader and he was also Louis Armstrong's musical director
for many years.

Speaker 9 (05:26):
So I mean talk about a lineage there in her blood.
You know, this music is in her blood. Plus you
know she's done studio and live work with folks like
Paul Simon, David Bowie. She toured with Bowie's band as
a backup singer Steely Dan exactly. And she's the tops
of jazz and blues singers. And she was just telling

(05:49):
me yesterday she went to her first Grateful Dead show
at the age of fourteen.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
So she is diverse. She enjoys much more.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I mean you when you mentioned David Bowie and Steely
Dan and all Side and Grateful Dad and what more
could you want in there too?

Speaker 3 (06:03):
And now she's playing with our with our folks here in.

Speaker 9 (06:05):
Charleston and what I'm saying is world class musicians right here.

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talk about the folks in your band that are going
to be playing the local folks.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Right, actually great, Ryan Kennedy will be on guitar and
he's fantastic. Yeah, John Ingram another fantastic. Yes, he'll be
playing bass, and Tim Courtz on drumon.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
So that's that's my regular band. So we'll all be there.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
So talk about the rehearsals for you guys for this show,
without the without the extras, without mister Moore and the
h and the others. But just talk about you your
gas preparation for this show.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
Right, Well, we've had one rehearsal, that's all.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
We're good. But we talked about it in line for
the bathroom, said you want to do this song, that's fine.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
But now today actually we'll rehearse the band and then
we'll bring Katherine Russell in afterwards and rehearse with her,
and then we'll have a chance for a little run
through tomorrow before the show at the Culture Center.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Now for people that have never seen the show, and again,
this has been going on for thirty three years, we
know it's a Christmas show. But what goes into picking
out what songs you do because you can't obviously you
can't do everything.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
What styles will you be doing?

Speaker 6 (07:38):
Well, we do jazz arrangements of Christmas songs, and that's
that's the way we approach it. And you know, doing that,
we have to be careful not to take them out
too far, you know, because these songs belong to everybody
and everybody you know, they're classics. So we try to
stay somewhat in the lane of the original concept of

(08:01):
the song. But we'd like to add our on flavor
to those things to make them different.

Speaker 5 (08:05):
Christmas songs are in some ways like the national anthem.
People don't like you messing with what's in their head.
But the thing about it is the arrangement that is
in my head may not be the same arrangement that's
in your head.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Right, Yeah, people.

Speaker 9 (08:18):
Cherish those songs and they cherish the arrangements too, and
that's why what kind of like what Bob is saying
is that you've got to stay close enough that everybody
hears what they love, that's.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Something that's new and interesting to them. Hopefully. Yeah, it's
gonna be it's gonna be a great concert.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Again.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
It's actually two nights over at over at the Culture Center,
and you can get to we you know, try to
get your tickets in advance if you if you can
and talk about the ticket information.

Speaker 9 (08:41):
Sure, yeah at wvpublic dot org slash joy that's where
you can go. Or if you just type Enjoy to
the World Thursday or Joy the World Friday, you'll get
the link. The tickets are all sold through event right,
and there are I think gonna be thirty five dollars
at the door, and there should be some available. We're
selling very well, but I think there'll still be some
seats available. What is general admission and the showtime is

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eight o'clock. So I think we opened the doors to
the theater at seven point thirty, and I believe the
lobby will probably open at about seven o'clock.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
And so Thursday night to night at the Christmas Parade
Chris Charleston, so people can can when they finish up there,
just head on over there to the show. And if
possibly the fact that doesn't work for you, then then
go check it out on Friday, and we're gonna have
a day. We'll have a little snow on the ground,
although with the rain today some of it may melt.
But there's more snow on the way they say for
Thursday night into Friday, So as long as we don't
get too much, we'll have a little bit on the ground.
And look, I have said this before, there is no

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and I'm not a snow lover by any stretch of
the imagination, but there was no beautiful building in my
mind than the West Virginia State Capitol at Christmas time.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Wunder's snow on. Yeah, that's quite beautiful.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
It's time here.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Adam.

Speaker 5 (09:41):
We had a text here. He said, with your and
Adam's involvement in wrestling, what type of wrestler do you
think Bob Thompson would have been.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Oh my, oh my.

Speaker 9 (09:50):
Well, you know, Dave, you're a classic lover of wrestling
as I am, and so I mean, I think we
could compare Bob to let's see a mixture of let's
see Bobo Brazil and Arilla Monsoon.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
How about that? Yeah, all right, he's a heavyweight. Yeah,
he's a heavyweight. He's a heavyweight, and you don't want
to make him mad. He might seem like a lovable giant. Yeah,
I don't want to get on Bob Thompson. No, Hey, Bob,
it's always a pleasure to have.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
You on the show, and we want everybody to come
out to the show's Thursday or Friday night or I
mean go to both. You could absolutely, You'll probably change
it up a little bit between.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Change yeah, yeah, and again.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
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Adam Harris Bob Thompson. Pleasure to have you both here.

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Good morning, Sarah, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 5 (13:30):
So you got to follow up Bob Thompson. Any musical
ability for me and whatsoever?

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Well, I can sing real good, but I don't do
it for free, Okay, all right, So you're serious, you're
you're a singer. Yeah, I've been known too, okay too
all right now.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
So to say, you're not like me or like a
lot of people with these karaoke singers that think they're
good but they're really not.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
You're really good. No, I only sing in dive bars. Okay,
it's man after my own art, all right.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
Yesterday House Speaker Hanshaw and others had a precedent of
the Capitol talking about their legislative agenda. Want to get
to yours in just a moment, I own business, jobs, etc.
Sounds like speaking your language absolutely.

Speaker 14 (14:05):
I mean, I think when it comes to what we
need to do in West Virginia economic competitiveness and jobs.
That's the number one priority I think that lawmakers should have.
And it really does mirror a lot of what we've
talked about in terms of theme and prioritization when it
comes to our legislative agenda and Americans for Prosperity we
released last week. We've been doing this since twenty eighteen,

(14:27):
and we look at it as a roadmap for policymakers
that don't want to tinker around the margins. They want
to be bold. They want to rapidly transform West Virginia
into a better place to live, work, and raise a family.
And so we see that as kind of You know,
when you look at West Virginia from an economic competitive standpoint,
it doesn't do us any good just to catch up

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to our other surrounding states because we face so many
as socioeconomic headwinds. So we've got to beat them decidedly
on competitive competitiveness. And so we think we got a
roadmap to get there, and it's exciting to hear lawmakers
are reading from the same handle.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Pathways is prosperity what you're calling it?

Speaker 10 (15:07):
Right?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
That is right way to prosperity legislative a joke. Yeah,
let's go over some of them.

Speaker 14 (15:11):
Sure, absolutely, So I think top top of mind for us.
You know, anytime the state is running a surplus, that
means you're taking too much out of the private sector.
We have one hundred and thirty million plus surplus, and
so what we'd like to see is a continuation of
tax cuts, specifically targeting the personal income tax. We know
that West Virginia passed one of the most hissed work

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tax cut, largest in history tax cut a couple of
years back. But since then, states like Kentucky and Ohio
have seen that market signal and began to lower their
rates and so as we continue to compete for jobs
and citizens, we want to keep down the road of
eliminating our state income tax fully.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Okay, why is I mean? And you've been on the
show of the last couple of years, we've talked about this.
Why is that so important to you?

Speaker 14 (15:55):
Well, we know that from the data and the research,
all signs point to cutting the income tax is a
large mover when it comes to bringing jobs and people
to the state. We know that we have just broke
even basically, we got out of the demographic winter that
we had faced for several years and not that long ago.
West Virginia was the only state in America where less

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than half of our population was working, less than half
in work worse participation. We're now at fifty five percent
workforce participation.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
What do you attribute that too?

Speaker 14 (16:27):
Pro growth policies that we've passed in the past. I mean,
you know, if you think about you know, whether it
was creating the gold standard for educational freedom in the
country by passing the Hope Scholarship, or enacting the largest
tax cut in state history, of things like having the
best regulatory environment for the creation of independent microgrids so
we can unleash American Energy Abundance lawmaers done tremendous work.

(16:51):
We've cut red tape, we've We've done a lot of
good work. But we can't rest on our laurels. And
that's really our core message in Americans for Prosperity. We
got to keep our foot on the gas when it
comes to beating the other states in the backyard brawl.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
And I think sometimes maybe here in Charleston again we're
talking with Jason Huffman from Americans from Prosperity. I don't
know that maybe that we see it as much in Charleston,
but it's a serious issue when you get up in
the Eastern Panhandle with folks crossing that line to go
over to d c or go over to Maryland, or
go over, you know, to Virginia in Pennsylvania. I mean
I sawalking to a friend of mine yesterday who's you know,
for years that they live in West Virginia, but his

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father crossed the border and went to Pennsylvania to teach
because he can make more money there. We see it
maybe in the River cities in Ohio as well.

Speaker 14 (17:36):
Yeah, And I'm glad you brought up education because that's
another key pillar of what we would like to see
done this legislative session. Obviously, with the Hope Scholarship set
to expand in twenty twenty six to all school aged children,
that's forty five thousand kids who will be become eligible
for the Hope Scholarship. That's huge that that is a
true opportunity for families to be in powered to find
the right educational pathway for them. But in the same token,

(17:59):
we want to look at the government run school system.
So when it comes to you know, we spend over
four billion dollars annually on K through twelve education in
this state, we think that we spend enough on public
education as it is. We would like to see it
right sizing of public education system and specifically for this reason,
we've continued to see student population decline. Oh, there's been

(18:23):
a lot of scapegoating of the Hope Scholarship as to
that being the catalyst for it, but we've seen enrollment
declining for decades and this is a problem that is
not unique to West Virginia because birth rates across the
country are declining. Instead, what we would like to see
as student enrollment declines is not what the trend has
been traditionally, which is an increase in spending on education

(18:46):
and an increase specifically in administration administrative bloat. We think
we need to see some right sizing there, and specifically
we want to see those dollars that are saved as
a result of that go back to classroom instruction and
teacher pay well.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
And that's what it was gonna bring me to my
next point.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
One of the things to Speaker Handshaw Jason talked about
yesterday was was with teacher and service personnel pay raise
They there are that they've got a number out there
that they're looking at that that that was definitely part
of it. And where would you folks be on that.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Well, from our perspective, that's great.

Speaker 14 (19:16):
I think we need to be competitive when it comes
to how much we're we're paying our educators. They do
hard work, but we don't want to see any more
money go into the government run school system. It's four
billion dollars more than four billion dollars already, and so
we need government to live with its means, even when
it comes to the government run school system. And so
sure we should be paying teachers more, but that's got

(19:39):
to come at the expense of right sizing. What is
essentially out of control spend on K through twelve education.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
But there would be those I'm a push I'm not
gonna push back. I'm just gonna play Devil's advocate a
little bit because I think you and I are on
the same page in this. But there would be those
that would say, look, you know, our test scores are
although we have improved in certain areas our test stores,
test scores still when you compare to other states, aren't
what they should be, and we're just not getting enough
funding for teachers to do what they need to do

(20:06):
in the classroom. To that, you would say, hogwash, Okay, look,
thanks for having If you.

Speaker 14 (20:10):
Look at the states that spend the most on per
pupil education, New York is the top of the list, right,
their educational outcomes aren't any better, and so we have
is a systemic problem anytime. That and the reason you
see the big push across the country that really started
in West Virginia but now has gone to twelve other states.
Even more than that, you can't have a one size

(20:30):
fits all approach to education. Every kid is different. Any
parent will tell you that.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Yeah, I mean, you talk to a parent that's got
three kids, I'll tell you there's three different personalities there.

Speaker 14 (20:37):
Absolutely, And so for the crowd out there, the special
interests that look at the education system like a jobs
program for adults instead of a way to educate our kids,
I would say that enough's enough. We spend enough on
government run education. It's time to tighten our belt and
right size that system, which is why we're calling for
a moratorium to be instituted on increases in government run
school spending.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
What are the that's your projection for how that's going
to go? Do you think you got a lot of
support for that?

Speaker 8 (21:04):
Well?

Speaker 14 (21:04):
I think that when it comes to education, spending traditionally
has gone up. But somebody's got to. Somebody's got to,
you know, be the one to John the Baptist this
thing and get out there and say we have a
problem here. The math doesn't math. We have six hundred
and twenty nine school buildings in this state for a
population of less than two hundred and forty thousand kids.
That math doesn't math well.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
And look, we've talked about it on this show and
on other shows as well. In the state, as we
speak right now, I think the state school board was
meeting at nine o'clock this morning. And one of the
things that they're going to be looking at is they're
going to be talking about closing schools in certain counties
or a few counties that were listed. We just came
off a closure in Rome County. I know, in my
native land there was a closure of a school. This
was more of a structural issue though. Down in Logan County.

(21:45):
We everybody wants that school Jason in their community. I mean,
everybody wants those smaller schools. The school is the hub
of everything. That's where your scouts meet, that's where Little
League registrations go on.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
So I mean, it's it's.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
The hub, that's the hub of everything. However, it's a
model in my opinion, that just doesn't work anymore, having
these schools in every community with a declining population. If
our I mean, look over in the Eastern Panandle they're
going to build a new high school. Okay, that's a
different but the rest of the state is not Western
is not the Eastern Panandal.

Speaker 14 (22:16):
Well, I mean, maybe those smaller community schools could work
out better if we didn't have this gargantuan administrative cost
associated with K through twelve education. And that starts in Charleston,
but goes out to the county level as well, And
I think to some extent, when you look at education
as a whole, we're moving in the right direction. But
you know, we need to give localities, We need to

(22:37):
give teachers and schools specifically a cleaner slate when it
comes to their regulatory environment. There is so much red
tape and nonsense from Charleston that school teachers face, and
they're not able to really individualize education around each kids.
So we would like to see a comprehensive deregulation of
the government run school system so that they can compete
with some of these school choice options that exist now.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I mean some of the examples in your opinion and
your studies of some of some of the red tape
that need to be eliminated. For as far as teachers go.

Speaker 14 (23:07):
You can think of seat time requirements, curriculum requirements, just
an accumulation if you will, of red tape over the decades.
But if it was up to me, we'd go into
Chapter eighteen and eighteen A and just hit delete on
anything that doesn't have a federal matching dollar. That's probably
the more I won't say extreme, but it's the more
old approach. I don't necessarily know that we get there,

(23:30):
but we're working with lawmakers to think through some of
the logistics and economics of this situation. And there's been
a lot of interest, frankly from state lawmakers in pursuing
some deregulation in the government run the school system.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
With the And I know that Americans for Prosperity is
a nonpartisan organization, but with the current makeup of the legislature,
you know, West Virginia is a red state. Went Republican
in twenty fourteen and no sign it's going to go
back anytime anytime soon.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
There seems to be within the Republican Party.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
And we talked about this a little bit on the
show yesterday, there seems to be, you know, and look,
this happened with the Democrats when they control for eighty
three years too. There are divisions are so there are
those that are are far right and those that are
just kind of center right, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
No different than when the Democrats were in charge.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
How is your group able to work with all parties involved?

Speaker 14 (24:27):
Well, I think it's because we're consistent on our principles.
People know where we're coming from our philosophy is really simple.
The way to achieve more prosperity is to unleash more
freedom and opportunity, and so you do that by making
a state more competitive economically, cutting taxes, cutting red tape.
You know, one of the things that we saw this

(24:47):
week that I thought very was very interesting some numbers
on the sort of nexus between cutting red tape, cutting
rules and rags that exist that that, in my opinion,
many of them are necessary, and the growth in our
gross domestic product. If you would go in and cut
say ten percent of the rules and rags on the books,

(25:08):
that would be six billion dollars in gross domestic product growth,
And for an economy that only has eighty billion dollars
of GDP right now, that would be huge. So extrapolate
that out over you know, ten twenty thirty forty. We
have seen some estimates that say the low hanging fruit
is somewhere between thirty and forty percent of rags that
are on the books could be cut. That would be

(25:29):
an eighth of our economy. So we're excited about the
prospect of that. But you know, when you take a
data driven approach to things and you look at things
from a principal first standpoint that that's how we're able
to really work with folks even across the island some cases.

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(26:04):
So how much of that funding all these other states
get for their schools actually goes towards the education of
their children instead of the indoctrination of them and turning
them into a little activist. If you notice, their test
scores really do suck.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
So it's a text.

Speaker 14 (26:17):
Well, that's an interesting question. I don't necessarily have statistics
on the other states, although I will say that when
it comes to the organized labor unions within our government
run school system across the board across America. You know,
American Federation of Teachers, the National Education Association. You have
but to read their national platforms to understand the level

(26:37):
of kind of Marxist philosophy that is in there. And
I say that pretty bluntly, but I mean it's public information.
You can get a hold of it in fact check
me if you don't like what I said. We want
to get away from that. We want to get to
a point where parents are empowered. We have one of
the best open enrollment laws in the country, so you
can put your child in any public school you want.
It's not the case that you're zoned your government assigned

(27:02):
zip code school. This is where you have to go anymore.
So we've put the accountability into the hands of parents,
so they can go and find that education in the
government run school setting, or they could go to the
educational freedom route. So really this is about not having
a captive audience in education, not having a one size
fits all approach, but really empowering parents to define the

(27:22):
right education for their kid.

Speaker 5 (27:23):
You know, one of the things that I don't hear
in what you've gone over today, and I didn't hear
speaker Handshaw speaking about yesterday. I had Brian Dayton from
the Chamber of Commerce on the show yesterday and he
kind of followed up put you know, talking about with
Speaker Hanshaw said, one of the things that I did
not hear is what would be the quote unquote the
social issues speaker Handshaw didn't speak about it. When Brian

(27:45):
Dayton was on the show yesterday, he didn't talk about it.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
You and I know you've got a lot.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Of papers in front of there, so we haven't got
to everything, but you haven't talked about.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It to me.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
This is me speaking. That's a good thing. I think
we need to stay out of it, and that's that's
just my opinion. You don't have to agree.

Speaker 14 (27:59):
Well, what I would say is this, You're in an
environment right now that West Virginia's read and becoming redder,
and primary elections are what drive electoral results. The general
election doesn't matter a whole lot in West Virginia, and
so I think for a lot of Wallmakers, they're responding
to that Republican base. They're responding to those primary voters

(28:20):
hopes and aspirations for what.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
They will do.

Speaker 14 (28:23):
And quite frankly, I don't necessarily think, you know, you
hear a lot from the establishment business community if you will.
They decry the work that folks are doing in the
legislature on quote unquote cultural issues. We don't work on
those because there's enough folks that are already focused on that.
But I don't think that you can't have a situation

(28:45):
where you can do both as a lawmaker. You know,
say for every ten economic bills you have, you have
three or four social issue bills. Sixty days session is
a short timeframe, but I think that if we could
get lawmakers to get on the same page, it could
work a lot more efficiently from a time management standpoint.
So I kind of I think it's a bogus notion

(29:06):
that you can't go and do both. I frankly think
that individuals who are decrying lawmakers working on social issues
really don't understand the electorate that they're being held accountable by.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
You talk about the primary election, though, I mean, the
Republican Party in West Virginia basically said to a great
number of people independence that we don't want your vote
by closing their primary.

Speaker 14 (29:26):
They did do that, and I think that's going to
obviously change the makeup of this election. I think, you know,
there's gonna be a lot of people that go to
the polls on election day in May and say I'd
like a Republican ballot please, and they're not gonna be
able to get that. So hopefully there'll be a lot
of educating of the public done by the Republican Party
as they put that into their bile alls and platform,

(29:47):
what have you.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
But in the long run, I don't necessarily.

Speaker 14 (29:51):
Know that it's going to have that much of an
impact in the out year elections where people have had
time to switch parties. You know, the Democrat Party had
their primary closed for sometime, and I think when they
were in the majority for that eighty three years that
they ruled the state with an iron fist. I think
you saw a lot of folks who were conservative that
were probably registered Democrat so that they could vote in
the primaries that matter. So I think you'll see some

(30:13):
sort of evolution of what we've seen in the past.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
All Right, I'm gonna give you I'm putting the crown
on your head, okay, and I'm saying you are over
the legislature.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
You can get any one seene.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
I know you've gone over a lot of things, but
one single thing that needs to be done.

Speaker 14 (30:30):
Well, I hear people don't like the idea of kings.
I tend to be one of those people as well.

Speaker 5 (30:35):
So this is a virtual world where now this is
a make believe world. Here's what's the number one thing.

Speaker 14 (30:41):
Well, in Huffman's VR legislature, we'd eliminate the personal win
income tax as quickly as possible, but not quicker. And
when I say that, I mean I want us to
be physically responsible. But we know that when you cut
the income tax, people come to your state. It creates jobs.
You can't have a situation where you have a government
surplus after the historic tax cut if you didn't get growth.

(31:01):
So we're growing and we'd like to see that growth
continue because it's what West Virginians deserve. They deserve jobs
and the opportunity to have more money in their pocket
to live their version of the American dream.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
Jason Huffann Americans for Prosperity. Always a pleasure to have
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Speaker 3 (34:26):
Let me knock out a couple of texts here.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Text says Trump said he's all about making America affordable again.
Sadly and predictably, his followers won't realize his policies are
the cause of the economic woes, and they will back
him up with a sheep sounding chorus of MAMAA. Dex says,
Americans for prosperity to be nonpartisan is the funniest thing
I have heard today.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
Well, I'm glad I could put a smile on your face.

Speaker 5 (34:50):
Texture Tex says, I believe the Texter was referring to
the indoctrination centers of Turning Point USA creating conservative activists
in our schools s. As a tankster, texas day, we
need to hold lawmakers accountable this session. We want lower
prices on food utilities and a change and a public
service commission. We want to say who's on that board.

(35:12):
It's failing the people.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
As a tankster, Tex says, we don't have a problem
opening charter schools, but close public schools. Let's put a
stop to that. Tex says we need to.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
Go back to the days when we brought Toyota the
you know truck plant, spark plug plant, plane plant, Procter
and gamble plant. Not seeing this with Republicans in charge
and social issues not jobs. Well I would push back
on that a little bit. I mean, all you got
to do is take that short drive and see new core.
Texays just checked on population growth in West Virginia. Both

(35:42):
stayed in federal state. West Virginia is not growing in population.
There are areas of West Virginia that are growing.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Tex says.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Okay, Florida state out of it, Texas state out of it,
Ohio state out of it. And now look, they all
have overwhelming Muslim takeovers in their districts, so we can't
stay out of it. When it comes to social issues
as a texture, Well, this guy is going to stay
out of social issues altogether. Shane and Zanaga from the
City of South Charles and ain't doing my.

Speaker 17 (36:08):
Friend good good, Thanks for having me today.

Speaker 5 (36:09):
Anytime you want to come in, you want to answer
any of the text, You're more than welcomes.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
That's the rest parts. I'll stay silent. That's all right.

Speaker 5 (36:19):
Let's talk about Christmas in South Charles and get some
things going on at the market. I understand farmers market
and some other things a break it down for you.

Speaker 17 (36:26):
Coming up this Friday, we have our Holiday Jolly Market
with Josh Pantry, so he'll be there from six pm
to eight pm weather from meeting. Of course, we know
we got some snow coming possibly on Fridays, we'll keep
a close eye on that. And then Saturday we have
our Christmas Market Festival. We'll have a petting zoo, holiday
workshops and of course shopping, food vendors and things like
that going on. So come to this weekend to the market,

(36:48):
and we also want to encourage folks to visit our
lights at the Little Creek Park six pm at nine
pm through Christmas Eve.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
And then this past week you had a pretty good
looking Christmas parade. I'm normally there, but we had another
station event I had to attend. Most of our stations
were there, but it was a great event.

Speaker 17 (37:05):
It was a really great turn. I think we had
about one hundred entries, so it was a pretty big parade,
but it turned out great.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Talking about some of the other things going on in
South Charleston, I mean we just keep seeing, you know,
I mean, not necessarily related to Christmas. Man, we just
keep seeing every day that there's something new popping up
in South Charleston. I think the mayor has done a
great job on that, and you folks in the marketing
that have as well talk about some of.

Speaker 17 (37:26):
The new Yes, it's definitely growing. We just actually opened
up a new business yesterday called Antie's Pearl's Honey Pot
at four fifteenth Central Avenue. And I believe the mayors
he's averaging about two businesses a month right now that
are opening in South Trost and so it's definitely growing.
And as far as the new shopping center, if you
drive by there right now, you'll see Kroger. They basically

(37:48):
how they're building up and prey construction. You'll see they're
putting some structures out that there will house about seven
businesses like Sketchers, Harey mcgoo's and Nothing Bunt Cakes, and
they'll be four others as well.

Speaker 5 (38:01):
And I know we just had Small Business Saturday a
couple of weeks ago, and I think I had you
on to talk about that. But talk about some of
the small but you don't not necessarily need to, you know,
give them a plug as far as the business is good,
but talk about the number of businesses that you have.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
There's small businesses in South Charlestown.

Speaker 17 (38:13):
Yeah, so, I mean I think most of ours are
pretty much small businesses and kind of like what I,
you know, tell people is it's very important to support
them because I, you know, I think that thriving small
businesses create thriving communities. So it's always good to get
out and support local.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
UK to Sean Zonig again from the city of Charleston,
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Speaker 5 (39:04):
There's a lot of I want to go back to
your your your smaller park that you have their little
little park, little creek talking about the lights there again.

Speaker 17 (39:13):
Yeah, it's just our second annual lights at Little Creek Park,
so we actually added more lights this year and we're
gonna add additional lights for years to come. But it's
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I get the numbers that come in weekly. I think
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(39:36):
Eve from six pm to nine pm.

Speaker 5 (39:38):
All right, And of course you guys do a great
job in your social media, so just follow the City
of South Charleston. John's always a pleasure to have you
on the show. Good luck with everything this weekend, and
if something happens you do have to postpone what you're
doing Friday night, just let us know and we'll get
in on the air for we hopefully that's not the case.
A little snow, you got to have a little snow around,
but you don't want to put people we don't we
don't want we had earlier this week. We know that
or what the Eastern Mountains are gonna get, which isn't

(39:59):
all out blizz what they're going to be getting, We're
not getting that here.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
All right, Sean. Always pleasure having the show man.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Thanks a lot, thank you, all right, A nine forty seven.
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Speaker 5 (42:22):
From ten on a Wednesday morning, rainy Wednesday rain is
set to move in here, and then later it's going
to change over to some snow with dropping temperat You're
not expected a whole lot of anything for our area
for now, but they say that maybe after you wrap
up your Christmas parades tomorrow night, or if you're going
to the concert at the Culture Center, then overnight tomorrow
night into early at least early to the midday on Friday.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
We could get some snow here.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
In the Charleston area, hopefully nothing like what we saw
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Camp Virtual Tape Breakfast was Satday. Carrie Cart joins us
to talk about it. Carry good morning.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
And welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (43:04):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
How long has this been going on?

Speaker 10 (43:07):
This is our twelfth year, all right.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So tell us all about it.

Speaker 5 (43:10):
For people that don't know about Breakfast with Santa, it
can't Virgil tate well.

Speaker 10 (43:13):
For twelve years now, we've been hosting a breakfast with Sanna.
We started out with pancakes and sausage pictures with Santa
as well as pony rids. For twelve years, that's all
been five dollars each. We have never raised our prices.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
You can't beat that. That's a pretty good price.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
That is a pretty good bargain. We'd like it to
be a community event. We like it to be affordable
for families if they can come out enjoy the facility,
see Santa. This year, we're thrilled we're adding a artisan's show,
so we're going to have vendors that are going to
be selling homemade West Virginia products. They'll be there from
nine to three. Everything will be homemade by independent vendors,

(43:56):
and then our Breakfast with Sanna is nine to noon.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
How many kids or family members give me a good
ballpark figure of how many go through this thing every year?

Speaker 10 (44:07):
We serve at least three hundred breakfasts every year, right,
And we had a really nice turnout.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
All right, And of course none of this would be
possible because without volunteers, I know, you got a lot
of folks from the business community and from other places
that help out with this.

Speaker 10 (44:21):
Absolutely calls meet and Hurricane is a great four H
supporter of Camp Virgils Hate. They always donate our sausages.
We usually get our pancake mixed donated. This year is
coming from Cracker Barrel. We have our four H volunteers
in Canall County helped come out and man the event

(44:43):
and serve the pancakes and clean up. And Southern District
Horse Camp all of their volunteers come out bring the
ponies so that the kids can have a pony ride.

Speaker 5 (44:53):
It's all good stuff. It's all good stuff. And again
it's Saturday morning. What time does it start again?

Speaker 10 (44:57):
Remind me it starts at nine a m.

Speaker 5 (45:01):
What's what seems to be the big hit every year?
I mean, I mean anytime you got pony rides. I mean,
for me, the sausage and pancakes will be the big
hit if I you know, even even as a kid.
Uh but I but I will say this that the
pony rides are always a big deal. What are some
of the other big things that people put smiles on
youngun's faces.

Speaker 10 (45:19):
Oh, well, you know, of course, it's always the big
man in the red suit Santa Clause. He almost always
brings Missus Claws with him, so you get to meet
both of them. But we also have free activities for
the kids this year, so they can come out and
make a gift for a family member or themselves. They
can decorate a gift bag that is free of charge.

(45:39):
So it's something else that you can do that will bake, uh,
break your bank and let your kids do an activity
out there, you know, while you do some shopping. And
it's been a great event.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
All right.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
Remind people where they can get more information. You got
social media? Got a website?

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Is our place out there where people can get more information?

Speaker 10 (46:00):
Absolutely can't. Virgil Tate has a very active Facebook. We
post everything on there. You'll see daily posts reminding you
of where in the location, can't. Virgil Tait is located
between Cross Lanes and Cystinville. Everybody thinks it's way out there,
but it's about barely ten minutes from Cross Lanes, so
it's not a long drive and it's very pretty drive.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
All right, Kerry, appreciate you being here. Good luck with
everything this weekend. We'll talk soon.

Speaker 10 (46:25):
Thanks a lot, all right, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
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put forth you yesterday by Speaker Hanshaw. Delegate Sean Hornbuckle
is going to us on the show today. It's Wednesday,
which means we introduce you to another wonderful West Virginian.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Jeff Jenkins will have the news. TJ.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Meadows will stop buy and of course open line West Virginia.
Metro News Midday with thirteen News and Tonight Live anchor
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I was talking earlier about the Charleston Christmas Parade. If
you can't make it to downtown Charleston tomorrow night, we
are going to have live coverage on the radio. Join

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Chris Lawrence, Steve Bishop, and Lisa Odi for the call
tomorrow night of the Christmas Parade live on the radio
WCHS network.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
We will start at seven o'clock.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Tex says a new course Steele was all because of
the money Biden brought to the state with infrastructure bills
to give millions and tax breaks to new Core to
build here. Well, partially true, partially true because their talks
were already happening with New Core before that. Tex says,
I am calling on all independent voters to make changes

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in our state law, all makers this election year. It's
getting worse in our state. The problem, appreciate the text.
The problem is is that if you're an independent voter,
you can't vote for any Republicans. Now, you can vote
for Democrats if you want, but the Republican Party pretty
much made that well known that they did not want
independent voters voting in their primary. So if you're an

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independent voter, when you go to the polls for that
primary election. And I liked what Jason Huffman was talking
about earlier about educating people. We've been talking about this
for some time now. Just know, if you're an independent
voter and you go in the past, you've always gone
to your polling place on primary day or election day
or early voting, and you said, I am an independent,

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but I want a Democrat ballot, or I want a
Republican ballot. You can no longer do that for a
Republican ballot. You do it for the Democrats, but not
for Republicans. So just know that it's good. And if
this Texture says that they want to make changes and
if they want to vote for Republicans. Maybe Texture was
referring to just voting for Democrats.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
I don't know. They can still do that.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
But you're a Republican or if you're an independent, I
should say, your choices are going to be sparse on
election day. Maybe a school board been on what county
you're in school board or or something like that, a
nonpartisan race, but you ain't going to be voting for
a House of Delegates or anything like that if you
ask for because you're not going to get a Republican ballot.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
DJ Meadows is here. How you doing, my friend Someboddy.
I see that you had Joe Manchin on the show.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Yeah, Joe Manchwell not today, tomorrow, Okay, okay, I've just
looked at it during the break there. So Senator Mansion,
former Senator man I guess he's always a senator, and
we referred to him. The proper thing is to always
refer to somebody by their title. So or do you
refer to him as the former governor or the former
secretary of state or former legislator?

Speaker 7 (49:36):
I mean, he did it all. I think Joe led
the band.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
He's going to tell you. He's going to tell you
call me Joe. That's what he normally does, That's what
he's always sid But Joe bnschell will be on the
show Tomorrow's what's on Joe's mind? Well, you know, there's
always something on that he's not always And I think
what I'll say is this, I don't want to give
too much way.

Speaker 7 (49:55):
I want him to give things away. He can talk
about what he wants to talk about. But I think
Joe Manchin is in a unique position to be able
to espouse as a former senator, as a former governor,
and to be able to do so in a clear
tone that is free of political ambition. He's not running

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for anything, so whether you want to call him a
party elder or just an elder because he's not in
a party anymore, I think there are lessons and he
has learned those lessons over time, and there are opinions
that he can share based on his experience that are
applicable to the things that we're facing today. And I
think that's what he's going to continue to do. I

(50:37):
think that's what he'll do tomorrow on talk Line, and
I think he'll continue to do that not only in
West Virginia, but at a national stage. He was great
on News Nation in that roundtable.

Speaker 3 (50:46):
That they did.

Speaker 7 (50:46):
Oh yeah, So I think when you have someone who
can speak freely and not be bothered by whether or
not they need to be re elected or what they're
going to do next, I think that's insightful.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
I think we should listen, all right, what you got
on the show today.

Speaker 7 (51:01):
So coming up ten o six, Roger Hanshaw is going
to be on the show. That ambitious agenda that he
laid out yesterday. We're going to talk about that. I
have a few questions I want to pose. Uh Charlotte
Lane from the PSC you know, she was in front
of lawmakers at interims and said we're not going to
close coal fired power plants. We're going to get into
that issue with her. Uh, Joe bro is back. He's

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going to stop buying Metro News Player of the Year.
We're going to outline that as well. So that and
a whole much more on today's show. And he votes
for Joe bro to be the Metro News Player of
the Year. You know, he ought to be after that
hit he took.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
A little tumble during the they're in the state championship
the other day.

Speaker 7 (51:37):
Yeah, and you know what, just like the hardest working
man in sports broadcasting, he comes back and wants to
do the game.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
And the hotel he went back, He went back to
the stadium to pick up his equipment and then went
back to the hotel and watched it and was still
pumping out stories, uh you know from the hotel room.
So well, you know what, that's that's how the old
school guys do it, man, That's the way we do it,
all right.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
DJ Medows and Dave also coming up with Metro News
talk Line at ten oh six. I'll be back on
this show tomorrow and I'll see you later today on
Metro News, Midday with thirteen News and Tonight Live. Anchor
Manda Baron had me till then, have fun and love
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