Matt Couch and Jeff Dornik return for another episode of their weekly show Sunrise Statesmen to recap the week’s headlines. They kick things off diving into the ongoing censorship on social media platforms and why they are both excited for the launch of Pickax. Then, in the middle of the show, breaking news erupted on social media with CEO Jeremy Boering announcing that The Daily Wire had severed their relationship with Candace Owens, presumably over her controversial views regarding Israel and Hamas. While both Matt and Jeff are very pro-Israel and disagree with Owens, it’s also interesting to point out the hypocrisy of The Daily Wire in combatting Cancel Culture while also “cancelling” people with differing views like Candace Owens and Denise McAllister.
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Sleepy Joe Biden has ended control ofhis party over to socialist, communist markets
and left wing extremists, and they'refilled with hatred, venom, and rage.
The first thing Washington demon drats willdo sleep Joe elector. And then
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every Friday, this man, misterMatt Couch and I are kind of recapping
the news, just throwing throwing whateverwe want at the wall and seeing what
sticks with Sunrise States And it's aFriday morning show. It's laid back,
grab a cup of coffee with us, and just kind of, uh,
you'll relax, Hey, guys,it is Friday morning, which means time
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for Sunrise Statesman, my good goodfriend Matt Couch and I are just kind
of recapping week, breaking down thenews, all of that really quick.
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with pickaxs. Make sure you youguys are checking that out at Freedom First
Coffee dot com but Matt, I'mglad we get sit down again and chat.
I always enjoy our conversations, absolutely, man, absolutely know. We
were talking about pick acts last nightas we see, you know, the
censorship ramp up where you know,we're about six seven months away from a
major, you know, the scariestelection of our lifetime, and you can
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you could truly see the censorship onX. Well, for those of us
that you know, aren't throwing softballsaround, you can see the censorship if
you're if you're part of the coolkids club and you're just gonna talk about
the mainstream media talking points, youprobably don't have any issues on X.
But if you're talking about, youknow, some of the issues that nobody
you know, that it's scoffed aboutto talk about, you're getting censorship on
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X. I don't even want totalk about, you know, Instagram and
Facebook and the censorship levels that they'rethrowing at people. And then it's amazing.
We brought this up, you andI did last week, and I
brought it up on DC After Darklast week, talked about it last night.
Just happened yesterday. Massive lawsuit fileby the Department of Justice against Apple
nobody's talking about this fileing monopoly chargesagainst Apple for dominating the US cell phone
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market. And it just so happensthat you know, you and myself and
Puppet Carlson and myself all on theFreedom First Network and Dcpatriot dot Com,
all of us talking about this.We're saying, hey, wait a minute,
you want to ban TikTok, whichleads to a censorship. It's a
gateway drug of censorship. Right,It's just like the Patriot Act, except
on a social media level. Andwe said, well, sixty percent of
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our phones are Apple and they're allmade in China, right, and you
have to say China, like PresidentTrump, China. You have to say
it with a little emphasis to it. Now they're going to go after I
mean, what's the chances that somebodymight have said, you know what,
Jeff Dornick and Matt couch KaiA kindof making sense here, how do we
ban TikTok when sixty percent of thephones in the US are made in China?
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Yeah, I mean, come on, Jeff, you know, I
mean, if you look at thehallway, if I'm saying that, right,
I'm probably not as the Chinese phone. But like I mean, we
can't even control the million plus amonth coming across our southern border. Legally,
our government can't control that. Youthink they're controlling the sixty percent of
the iPhones coming in from China?Yeah, well, I mean that's the
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thing. It's it's interesting if allthe conversations on my shows this week have
basically all been revolving around this technology, China data, all that kind of
stuff. And I know when Iwas talking with Karen Kingston as well as
Melka, we were talking about howit's like, Okay, it feels like
they're throwing TikTok on the proverbial youknow, sword essentially and throwing them under
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the bus, so that way theycan kind of deflect from all the different
ways that they're collecting all of ourdata. And it's really interesting because it's
like, especially when you're dealing withwith China, I would almost argue that
it's more dangerous that our own governmentis collecting our data than China. I
mean, realistically, yes, China'sgonna be gonna be doing some nefarious things.
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We all get that, but ourown government is is collecting our data
and funnel funnel funneling that through andthen you actually using that against us,
and our own government is weaponized againstus. So I think we should almost
be more terrified of any and alldata collection than just what TikTok is collecting.
But then we also know that Chinahas has programmed the TVs that they're
manufacturing to have basically two way towhere they can they can be spying on
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us. They're doing that with televisions, they're doing that with phones, They're
doing that with computers. They're doingthat with basically all the technology that they're
developing and sending over here. Andon top of that, there was actually
a report that I saw the otherday where your your cars are collecting data
on you, and it's and thenthey're then funneling that that back and they're
selling it off to the highest bider. They're funneling it back to I know,
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they're funneling it back to your owngovernment. And guess who the worst
culprit is. It's Tesla, Becausewhat they're actually doing is every time you
plug your phone into a Tesla car, it's actually collecting all the data not
just off of your Tesla, butoff of your phone as well, that
then they essentially now own and it'sfunneling back to who knows where. So
when we're actually looking at this,it's like, why is everybody concerned about
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TikTok when you're you're flipping cars,are collecting your data, which is going
back to going back to the CCP. It's insane. No, I mean,
I mean it is. And andthe crazy part about that is is,
I mean, no one should bemad. Musk has said this publicly.
He's even alluded to his reason forbuying X was for you know that
that reasoning. You know, heknows that they can market the data,
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they can sell the data, theycan utilize it for customer trends and things
of that nature. They can findout what products are hot, develop them.
Look, you know they're they're well, you know, what are people
saying that they need? What arepeople? You know, it's it's a
brilliant strategy on his part. It'sjust the fact that you know, if
if Tesla or you know, Xor those folks have access to it,
then our government has access to itbecause our government spine on everyone and has
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been you know for for you know, six seven decades, you know,
since the since the OSS. Imean, this is basically what it was
founded for now. Granted, youknow we've always heard this, Well,
the CIA, he's not supposed tooperate on US soil. Well, we
both know that's crap. I mean, I mean we know that from from
John Brennan testimonies and things where Obamahas slipped up. And who was the
one Schumer who slipped up? Youknow, when he was talking about you
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know, Trump, He's like,you don't want those key people coming after
you. I mean, like Schumerreally said that, like what four months
after Trump was sworn in, Betterbe careful. You don't want those folks
coming after you. And look whathappened, So you're spot on. I
mean, I think it's just it'sludicrous to me that people can go and
worry about. I mean, I'mnot big on TikTok. I've I've worked
on recently starting to grow my followover there. I got about twenty thousand
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followers on TikTok. I don't knowwhat I'm doing. My kids know more
about TikTok than I do. Ithrow up some clips of stuff that you
and I do or things that Ifind that are humorous over there. It's
kind of, you know, it'skind of like Instagram. If you want
to see what I had for lunch, you can follow me there. You
got like thirty thousand followers over there. But like, it's not the same
thing as when I'm posting on gabor or Getter or rumble or x or
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platforms where I'm not as censored.But Pickax can't get here soon enough for
those of us who are conservatives thatare and are tired of being demonetized,
you know, to helen back.But I'm telling you the censorship level,
folks. Most of these people,and you know these people, you know,
I gotta be careful how I wordthis, but most of these people
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that you see today that people arefollowing, and I mean this with with
kindness. Jeff, I didn't seethese people in twenty seventeen. You know
who I saw. I saw JeffDornick and Matt Cotch. I didn't see
him in sixteen. I saw Jeffand Matt and several others you know that
you know I run with. Youknow, I didn't see him, and
I didn't see him in twenty eighteen, didn't see him in nineteen damn sure,
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didn't see him in twenty twenty orwhen I was going through three years
of lawsuits from eighteen to through twenty. Didn't see m when I was fighting
for the election in twenty twenty andtwenty twenty one, didn't hear from any
of them when I got banned inDecember of twenty one on almost every platform
out there besides Getter and Gab andRumble, and Rumble really was not even
a thing hardly in twenty one,as you and I both know. So
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my point to this is most ofthe people out there that are that are
for this censorship ban, they've neverfaced real scrutiny, They've never faced real
adversity, you and I both Andwhere I'm going with this, folks,
if you're watching you know here todayof course we're live across you know platforms
are on Rumble, of course,Freedom First Network. And if you're watching
this, where were you, guys? I mean, seriously, and Jeff
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knows whe I'm going with this.When Jeff Dornick was banned and Matt Couch
was banned, Laura Lumer was banned, and James O'Keefe was banned, we
were all on Getter having our ownparty, and there was only a handful
of conservatives left over on Twitter atthe time now X and those people benefitted
dramatically from all of us being banned. Alex Jones Band, Matt Couch,
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Jeff Dornic, Gloria Lumer, JamesO'Keefe, Project ver Bad, banned all
of it. You know now it'sO'Keeffe media group, of course. And
I'm leaving a ton of people out, as you know, Jeff. I
mean, there were hundreds of uswere that were banned, that were that
were you know, trying to getthe truth movement or what do we want
to call it call it at thattime. But there were a handful of
people who swelled and grew that didn'tknow that never got banned. And you
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have to question that a little bit, like why were they allowed to stay
when we weren't and others weren't,And why were they propelled and elevated when
every other conservative on the platform wascensored and another thirty or forty million were
banned. Yeah, and so mypoint is censorship is coming. We're seven
months away from this thing, sixand a half seven months, give or
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take. The majority of these peoplethat people are following nowadays didn't I didn't
even know these people. They didn'tshow up till twenty two. Bro weren't
even around to like twenty twenty two, and now they want to be experts
in this whole game of of what'sgoing to happen in twenty four and they
want to tell people this is gonnado you don't you You you have never
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faced scrutiny, You've never faced adversity. You don't know what true censorship is.
You're you're living in a la laall in. This is candy Land
for you, guys. Yeah,but I promise you in the next three
months as we head towards conventions.You know, it's like Kevin Hart says
when he's on a stand up forteam, You're gonna learn. They're going
to learn because censorship is coming ona level like most of these people,
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Jeff have never seen all Land myplane. But that's where I was heading
with that. No, and Ione agree with you, and I think
I've got I've got two points tokind of piggyback off of that. One
is uh, you know, onon my bi weekly show Now with with
mel Kay a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about we were talking
about this very issue where censorship isgoing to ramp up heading into the twenty
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twenty four election. And and Meland again it's it's a theory. I
have no idea what's going to happen, but I would not be surprised at
anything. But Mel's been saying fora long time that at the at the
Democrat convention, Joe Biden's is goingto decline the nomination and they're going to
replace him with a Michelle Obama.And and she said, we have to
be careful because the conservative crowd oftenruns with with with the you know,
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calling Michelle big Mike and talking aboutyou know, how Michelle is actually a
man and the whole deal. Andshe's like, what you're going to do
is you're if you're doing that,you're going to unnecessarily get yourself censored and
ban off of every platform. They'regoing to say you're that you're trans,
transphobic. They're going to use thatin order to protect Michelle Obama if if
she if she does run for president. And so she's like, you guys,
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have we have to be careful andstrategic about the wording that we're using
the choices that we were not unnecessarilycensored. So that's that's one angle on
this The other side of this isthat I think everybody is putting all of
their hope and trust in X andElon Musk and and and the reality of
it is is that Elon is stillcensoring people. He's still shadow banning people.
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What he's doing, he's dangling thiscarrot in front of everybody and saying
free speech, free speech, freespeech. But then he's using the algorithms
so against us. So instead ofcompletely banning us off the platform, what
he's doing is he's using the algorithmsin order to downplay those of us that
are actually getting the truth out there. And that's only going to get worse
as we're heading into the twenty twentyfour election. If you look at the
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worldview of Elon Musk, and Ithink, I think I'm going to do
a Twitter spaces and I'll have youon there, and I know mel Kay
is going to be on the KarenKingston and all that where we're going to
be talking about the worldview of ElonMusk. The interesting, the interesting thing
about this is it's like his worldviewis in perfect alignment with the world economic
form. He believes in transhumanism,he believes in using technology in order to
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in order to basically, you know, centralize the power to a handful of
people. He's basically ushering in theworldview of the world economic form. But
then we're all going to act asif he's on our side and going to
defend free speech and the whole deal. We can't put our hope in our
trust in this multi multi billionaire,the richest man in the world that's probably
going to be the most powerful manin the world very soon as we're heading
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into this pivotal election. And ofcourse I ended my sentence just as you're
taking a sip of coffee. No, I knew you were coming. I
was trying. I couldn't get inthere. I knew you were winded down.
I was trying to get it inreal fast. We've known each other
so long, man. No,but you're right, he's he's admitted to
this. I mean, this isa guy, and I don't have a
problem with Elon Musk A lot ofpeople do. I don't think he's this
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evil, maniacal you know, BillGate. I don't think he's Bill Gates.
Let me put you that way.I don't think he's like buying up
the majority of the farmland in theUS so that he can, you know,
use vaccinated water on the crops orwhatever. I mean, Like,
I really think Gates is probably tryingto do that and be honest with you,
and he's hit mean. And ifyou want to fact check me,
there fact checkers. He does ownthe majority of the farmland in the United
States. Now Bill Gates does.Nobody wants to talk about that, which
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is insane when you think about theinsanity of madmen. That's insane. But
must because even he's even said inthe past, now I think he may
have changed his stance a little bit. It's okay, you can you can
learn, you can get red pill, you can change your opinions on things.
But Musk was even for letting hiskids pick their gender if you remember,
Jeff, I mean he was evenyou know, like they were they
were they were doing genderless parenting.Yeah, uh, you know, I
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mean that that's that's out there withit with one of his exes and so
so yeah, I mean, he'sit's not he's not perfect, right,
and he's got issues. But thisis happening, like Jeff said, it's
not This is not hyperbole, Thisis not conspiracy. This is actually things
that have been said things that arehappening. So you know, when we
talk about Pickaxe launching soon, it'sgonna give a different angle for UH influencers,
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but also people to talk talk ona different level, you know.
And I see I see people talkingabout different platforms, and but we've got
to eventually, at some point finda platform to where we can all come
together or we can't be censored,where we can't be banned. And and
it's still it still doesn't exist it, don't you know, Like I mean,
you've got a few million people onGetter, a few million people on
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truth Social, a few million peopleon gab, a few on cloud Hub,
a few on I don't know thatanybody's on Cloudhub beside you and I,
Jeff, If I'm just being honestwith you, there's nobody to posts
more on that forum than you andI. But uh, but you know
what, we're like the little enginesthat could. We're too We're too crazy
to give up or too dumb togive up one or the other. But
there's other platforms. You know,Maywey's one I really enjoy Maywey, but
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I can't tell anybody's I get moreresponse on Maywey than I do, cloud
Hub by far. You know,it's been around for a long time.
But the problem is is that Jeffand I and others we have to post
on gab, cloud Hub, Mayway, pill Minds, Telegram x, Facebook,
Twitter, Instagram, whatever you've got, we post on them all,
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not because we want to. Idid my Trump hands there. We post
on them all, you know,and so it's it's it's becoming habitual.
I never used to do the handsthing, and then now it's just like,
you know, you just it justcomes with the territory of being in
politics, I guess. But thepoint is it's not we're not having fun
making a thousand Jeff and I aren'thaving a blast making a thousand posts a
day on social media, but we'vebeen censored and both of us have been
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banned. That we were also smartenough to not put all of our eggs
in one basket. And so that'sI think kind of what prompted you to
create pick Acts, man, wasthe fact that you're like, Okay,
look, I'm sick and tired ofbeing censored, and I'm sick and tired
of being demonetized, and these arethe things that we keep addressing. They
keep ignoring everything we're addressing, Likewhy don't we have this for videos?
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Why don't we have this for chatting? Why don't we have this for messaging?
Why can't I make a post andget tipped for it? Right?
And I think about that as aninfluencer on X if you make a post
and it's breaking news, and youand I break news all the time,
and you do a lot of exclusiveinterviews that nobody's heard before, why shouldn't
there be a tip button there foryou as an influencer? Yeah? Good
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point. I mean, I'm nottrying to give too much away. I
know you've talked to me, butI have a feeling there's going to be
things like that in place on PICKAthat aren't in place on any other social
media platform. So if you're aninfluencer, or you don't have to be
an influencer, how you could beJoe Blow that lives in a plant where
something you know, lives in atown where something happened and you and you
post it and you can actually berewarded for your civil you know, your
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citizen journalism if you will, Andand I think that's that's that's what needs
to happen. That's where I that'swhat I'm excited most about Pickax. Jeff,
Yeah, no, Yeah, Welland I think you know, and
I wasn't intending for the show tojust be an infomercial for for for pick
Ax, but but but show becausewe were pissed off about the censors show
no totally on our show last night. Yeah what what and what? What's
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what's interesting to me? Uh isyou know, because as I've been building
out, building out pick acts andlooking at, Okay, what features do
we want, what features can welaunch with which which features can we add
on down the road, I thinkwe've got a whole game plan, both
short term and long term on howto actually do do it properly. But
I can just I just keep lookingat all the social media platforms, both
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as Facebook, the big tech ones, but then also the alternatives. And
I'm just sitting there and I'm likenobody, nobody's looking at it from the
perspective of what's best for the contentcreator. They're looking at what's best for
the platform, and they want touse the content creators to benefit the platform,
And whereas I'm taking the approach moreof what's going to be best for
the user, what's going to bebest for the content creator, the influencer,
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and then we'll figure out from there, how do we make that good
for the for the betterment of theplatform, because we've got to take care
of of the people that are drivingthe social media platform because they are the
they are the life of of anyplatform. And I think that that's where
a lot of these other platforms,like like Getter and gab and clout Hub
and all these other platforms where theykind of missed the boat. I think
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is that they a lot of themreally launched or grew when everybody was getting
kicked off of all the big techplatforms, and so they kind of became
this little silo and algorithmic bubble forthe hardcore maggot influencers. And then as
soon as Elon open Twitter back up, then everybody rushed back to Twitter,
and now they're kind of like it'slike a ghost town on a lot of
these platforms. And for me,I'm looking at this as we're about to
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launch Pickax in the next coming inthe upcoming weeks, and I'm like,
I'm I'm really happy that we're notlaunching at a time when people are getting
kicked off of platforms because I'm beingforced to actually do something that nobody else
is doing in order to entice peopleto leave places like X and Facebook and
YouTube and all these other platforms.Uh So, so we're not just a
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home for all the rejects, ifthat makes sense. And so, uh,
it's gonna be. It's gonna bereally interesting. I think it's gonna
be. It's gonna be more ofa grind than it would have been if
we had the benefit of everybody gettingkicked off. But also I think what
we're gonna be able to do ismake it to where this is gonna be
the right platform for people long term, including yourself, myself, you know,
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other content creators that are that arethat I think are struggling to a
certain degree on X and Facebook andall these other platforms because of censorship.
It's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be really interesting and to
a certain degree kind of the wildwild West, because I can just figure
out, Hey, I'd like toadd this to the platform, so we'll
see what happens, you know,Yeah, no, I mean, and
that's the way it always works,you know, like you you you wonder
you know, you throw stuff atthe wall and hope it sticks sometimes,
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Right, that's life and that's businessin general. And uh, you know
I do that all the time.And my I've got so many different things
going on because you know, beingas uh you know, as censored and
banned as people like Jeff and Ihave, you have to throw things at
a wall to keep the lights onand food in the pantry for the family.
Yep. Uh. You know,hate to break to everybody, but
Jeff Dornick and mac Couch aren't gonnabe working for any fortune five hundred companies
anytime soon. Uh. It's gonnatake a couple of Google searches and about
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thirty five articles from MSNBC to RollingStone about us, and they're gonna be
like, yeah, we're gonna haveto let these guys go. You know,
they're they're great at what they do, but you know, we just
can't have the uh, the sixtypercent of our liberal employees finding out what
Jeff Doornic and mac Couch say inthey're right and there's private lives or or
in their past or whatever. Andso I think that's something that conservatives don't
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understand. Now. In fact,I know they don't. I don't think.
I don't think. Let me rephrasethat. Jet I know that ninety
five percent of conservatives might be ninetynine percent have no clue about the politics
that goes on in corporate America.They have no clue and they don't realize
that so many of us, youknow, and I'm not saying that,
trust me. It would be mucheasier to go back to my old life
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as a logistic executive making six figures, you know, and just you know,
worrying about managing accounts. But that'soff the table when I, you
know, almost ten years ago,I decided to dive into politics and investigate
Seth rich and fast and furious inthe Las Vegas shooting. And since then
we've put out countless stories that nobodyelse would would report, investigate, talk
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about. And so now my destinyis unfortunately, I don't know if it's
fortunately or unfortunately depends on who youask, is laid out that this is
what I have to do, thisis what God's called me to do,
and so uh, and now I'llbe labeled a Christian nationalists because I,
you know, I brought Jesus intothe equation here. But how dared we
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talk about you know, God's will. You know what am I thinking here?
But but I believe this is trulymy collings what I'm supposed to do.
But you know, people like Jeffand myself, we can't do that
if you don't go to freedom firstand and pick up some gear. You
don't go to faith and freedoms andpick up some gear, if you don't
drop a buck or two here andthere on the rumblet channel or whatever.
This is. This is the waywe we have to do our lives.
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We don't have any other choice becausewe made a sacrifice about a decade ago
when nobody else had the courage to. And we're not the only ones.
There's others out there. But youknow, Karen Kingston that Jeff does a
lot of great shows with is one. Laura Lumer is another one who we're
both friends with. There's you know, Mindy Robinson. There's so many others
out there. Uh, you knowthat, you know that. I I
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mean Eric Matheeni, I mean Eric, I mean he's a practicing attorney,
but I mean he's lucky honestly thathe hasn't been you know more in caps
and attack for what he does consideringyou know, his his his business.
But at the end, and there'sso many others, I don't I can't.
I can't leave everyone off. ButI can't name everyone, I guess
is what I'm saying. But folks, you've got to start supporting independent journalism.
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You've got to start supporting citizen journalists. You've got to start supporting independent
media. Uh. You know,you should be going you should be bookmarking
Freedom First Network dot com and Dcpatriotdot com and you should be going there
every morning. We have some wehave sometimes you have the same stories Jeff
writes for us sometimes and sometimes you'llthrow stuff up that we do. But
at the same time, we alsohave we You're not gonna find these stories
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at Dcpatriot dot com or Freedom FirstNetwork dot com. You're not gonna You're
not gonna roll into bright bart andor are some of these national places.
Everyone visits News, Newsmax or whoeverand see most of this stuff. You're
not right. Uh. The oneI will give a shout out to because
he's a good friend is Jim Hopped. I think Gateway Punted does a phenomenal
job, you know, being uh, you know, one of the leaders
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out there. Is crazy to seethat they are a top five hundred website
in the world, now, youknow, a gateway punt in the especially
considering they literally have had everything thrownthem like we have. So but my
point is, folks, you've gotto support people like Freedom First Network,
DC, Patriot Gateway pun It.If you're not, I don't know what
you're doing. I mean, I, Jeff, I can't even tell you
the last time I watched Fox News. Yeah, that's years for me.
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That's I I shut it off beforethe twenty twenty election. I think I
think a lot of people cut itoff a deer, you know, basically
election night when they started calling youknow a lot of those states, you
know, basically almost like before theyeven like closed the voting boosts and all
that. But I remember, justI'm like, this is just nothing but
propaganda. And they're controlled opposition,nothing but propaganda. And it's interesting and
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and there's there's some breaking news aboutwhat I call con inc or Conservative inc.
You know, on that And thisis another one that this is another
network that I used to watch allthe time, and I cut off.
I shut off a long a longtime ago. Is is is the Daily
Wire and I don't know did youdid you see this breaking news this morning?
Matt god Jeremy Jeremy Boring announced lessthan an hour ago that Daily Wiring
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Candace Owens are are breaking up,and according to reports, it has to
do with the fact that Candice Owenswas not as pro Israel as Ben Shapiro
liked uh regarding the Israel Hamas things. So now Candice Owens is out over
at the Daily Wire. I mean, god, this is probab. I'm
probably the wrong guy to not evenwhy you did it. You've known me
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for a long time, man.I I'll be honest with you, guys,
and I'm gonna say this for allof you out there with love.
And Jeff and I have been aroundthe block. We've spoke on stages all
over the country with a lot ofthese people, and these people gotta be
careful how word this right again withwith today's media. But I'm gonna say
this, and I'm gonna say withlove, Candace Owens folks would not piss
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on any of you if you wereon fire. She wouldn't. I've seen
her where. She wants her ownprivate green room when she shows up to
events with fifty other speakers. I'veseen it firsthand. I've heard about it,
and I only heard about it,but I've seen it firsthand. These
people are making tens of millions ofdollars, you know, and you know,
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and that's that's great. No oneknow I'm not an anti capitalist here,
but I mean, I don't.It's it's interesting to me how you
think you could work for somebody likeBen Shapiro and then take that stance that
she did. I'm pro Israel,as you know. You know, you
and I are in a group chatto where we take a lot of hell
from a few folks and said chatfor our views. But you know,
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I as a Christian, and Irun with guys who are two of my
best friends, and you know himtoo, Pastor Brian Gibson, Pastor Greg
Locke, and I want to throwa third Pastor Todd Coconado. Three of
my great friends in life, threethe best pastors in America. And I'm
a you know, maybe the otheryou've heard of, Christian nationalist. I'm
a Christian and free speech absolutist.I'm a Christian absolutist, right. I
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believe that that Israel. I believethat's God's chosen people. And I believe
that we have a you know,well, I believe what the Bible says
in that realm of things, Jeff. And so I don't know how anyone.
I mean, it's not like youcan say anything good has came out
of Gaza or Hamas. Have theycured diseases? Have they created any any
cool uh you know, scientific discoveries, you know, have they have they
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won any Nobel Peace prizes? Havethey done anything? Have they created anything
over there besides terrorists and gods?You know, not because I could say,
I cannot, you know, tothat point, I cannot think of
a single thing that they have contributedto humanity at all, for anybody that
would be considered a a net positive. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
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just insane to me that we're evenhaving this conversation. And it's amazing to
me too that you know that youkind of see where the people fell.
Obviously, you had the the littlesquad group of aoc Rashida, talib Omar,
ilan Omar, and then the otherone that I can never remember who
just hangs with him, the blackgirl. I can't remember what her name
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is. She's just kind of thefourth wheel in the group, and nobody
really knows her name. But youknow, it's amazing you see some of
these folks that kind of come forwardwith this, but the majoy and then
you see a lot of this reallybrought a lot of anti Semitism out among
people in the conservative movement. Inmy opinion, Jeff, I was really
stunned by the anti Semitic remarks onX by a lot of folks that I
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was stunned to see it by andand and it's amazing. None of those
people have ever been to Gaza,Jeff, None of those people have,
you know, for all the peoplethat are like defending this, let's when
this thing's over, and it'll beover at some point and it'll go back
to the normal chaos that is theMiddle East. I would I wouldn't.
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I would entice you folks to thinkit's such a great area over there to
go over there without security. Govisit the Gaza strip, Go visit Palestine
while you're at it, you know, go visit some places in Syria and
Jordan and Egypt. You know,had to hit up Kuwait, you know,
while you're there, maybe go toFallujah. You know, make make
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the tour right, make you know, there's probably a buster you could get
on over there for cheap, Ibet. Yeah, and uh, you
know, and and just tell metell you know, well, if you
make it out alive, we'd liketo hear your story. But i'd I'd
put I put money you won't makeit out live right as an American.
Yeah, and these and so thesepeople are literally in the streets protesting,
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you know, this insanity from thesebutchers. And but yet they wouldn't The
same people protesting would be killed instantlyif they were to make these trips over
there, yep, in some ofthese places. So it's just I don't
know, it's not it's a commonsense issue for me, Jeff, and
people don't have it. Yeah.Well, it was interesting because last week
I interviewed I interviewed Lauren Whitsky onmy show, and she's somebody that's been
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very anti as I mean, sheshe was obviously shot for a while up
until very recently she was working withStu Peters, and obviously Stu Peters has
basically almost come out as a completeyou know, hate the Jews and Jews,
Jews are the problem of the worldand the whole deal. Squirrels.
Jeff, you what he's notier thansquirrel turds? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
yeah, I think that's yeah.I'm I'm with you there. I
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think what's interesting, you know,talk talking to her is is I kept
coming I kept coming back to thispoint is that, uh, you,
you can be you. You candisagree with Israel's tactics, and that's fine.
They're a government, you know,Like you know, for me,
I've I've been a Trump guy sincetwenty twelve. I've been very critical of
Trump. That that that doesn't meanI'm anti Trump. It just means I'm
(30:44):
critical of particular decisions. So ifyou if you feel like, you know,
Israel should do this instead of thisin a war or what, it's
like, okay, fine, wecan have that. We can have that
discussion. But I don't see anylogical explanation that anybody could possibly come up
with to be pro Hamas. AndI think that that's where, you know,
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Candace has gotten herself in trouble.I think Lauren's gotten herself in trouble.
And I think that that the thata lot of these people that are
opposing Israel, they're falling for thetrap of disagreeing with Israel's tactics and then
becoming pro terrorist organization HAMAS because whathappened on October seventh nobody can justify because
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that was that was absolute murder,rape in cold blood, Like there is
no rational logical explanation that you cancome up with to justify those actions that
that would, like you're talking aboutwar crimes. That was war crimes worse
than anything that Israel has ever done. And so if you're gonna do that
to me, you're you're you're you'redigging your own grave, and and that's
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the problem. So from that perspective, I think I think that you know,
Candace has kind of gotten herself inhot water for for that, and
it makes complete sense why the DailyWire would would basically part way with her.
I think also on the flip side, there's a bit of hypocrisy on
the Daily Wire's part because they've beenyou know, anti cancer culture, supposedly
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leading the charge for for you know, opposing cancer culture and canceling people and
all of that for their political viewsand ideologies. But then they part ways
with Candace owns because of her politicalviews when it comes to Israel and Hamas.
I know that they they canceled agood friend of mine, Denise McAllister,
for her for her Christian views onhomosexuality. So you know, it's
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it's kind of like there, Ifind fault in both sides of this,
if that makes sense, And Ithink that again, two things can be
right at the same time. Ithink Candice Owens is probably wrong when it
comes to her views and Israel andHamas. But also I think Daily Wire's
wrong for, you know, forbeing hypocrites when it comes to being anti
cancer culture and then canceling people thatdisagree with them on their platform. It's
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just it's I don't know, I'vegot issues on both sides. No,
no, no, I totally agreewith you. And my point was Ben
Shapiro and I have love loss.I mean, we went at it on
Twitter in the past. I meanI think, you know, I've offered
him a golden stool for Christmas,you know, so you can get up
and pick things up and maybe I'llyou know, if he needs help opening
pickle jars stuff like that, Icould help Ben with. But you know,
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these people are so cocky and soarrogant whether it you know, they're
the crazy part is, Jeff,You're absolutely right about the Daily Wires hypocrisy.
But the but the thing is tome, the to me, this
whole thing with Candice Owans and BenShapiro, Both of these people are so
arrogant, so cocky. I feltlike they deserved each other. You know.
It's like you meet a couple andyou're like, man, what a
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what a pile of douchebags, Andyou're like, Oh, they're made for
each other. You know, that'skind of literally where I thought that relationship
was going. I was like,man, these people are made for each
other. And mainly it's just becausethere's no differing views with Ben Shapiro or
Candas Owans. It's their way orthe highway. Have you ever seen them
in any common And for those ofyou watching man couch is mean, you
(33:58):
know, I don't care. Idon't No one that's gonna be upset by
my words has ever supported any ofmy efforts anyway? Uh? But you
have you ever seen a conversation witheither one of those two Candice Owens are
Ben Shapiro? There's the trump pansagain. Sorry, can't stop it.
It's out of control. Have youever seen a conversation with either one of
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those two to where they ever listento anyone they're talking to, whether they're
interviewing them, whether they're being interviewed. Have you ever seen them go,
oh that man, that's a goodpoint, Jeff, that's a good point.
Matt. Have you ever seen themconcede anything they've said to anyone?
And the history of them being inmedia, The answer is no. It's
a definitive no. They talk.You listen. That's it, folks.
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That's not journalism. That's not media. I mean, it's you know,
it's it's insanity. They are sococky, so arrogant. I think they're
I think they're made for each other. I can't wait. It's like a
train wreck. I've got another showafter this one, and I'm on His
Glory at two o'clock, you know, and uh with Pastor Dave, who
we both Pastor Dave Scarlett, greatguy. But I'm looking at My point
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is between the three shows I havetoday, I'm very excited about grabbing some
popcorn and watching this train wreck unfoldbecause neither one of those two can keep
their mouth shut. It's gonna beexciting. So I'm gonna grab some popcorn
watch Candice Owens and Ben Shapiro teareach other limb from limb like a couple
of hyenas. It's gonna be fun. Jeff, I'm pumped. Oh yeah,
No, yeah, for sure.And I just wanted to do a
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quick contrast too, because I thinkI think it's it's important, you know,
Like, obviously, I'm not aTucker Carlson sick of fan like a
lot of other people in conservative mediahave become. But the one thing that
I can say is that you lookat Benchapiro, candae Own, the whole
Daily Wire crowd, like they're notwilling to have just open rational conversations where
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it gives and takes and all that. I would say, maybe the exception
would be like a Michael Knowles maybeout of that whole crowd, I find
that he's probably the most sane andrational and willing to have a logical conversation
with people. But I mean,you look at somebody like Tucker Carlson,
that's all he does. And I'veeven seen his ideology morph as he's having
(36:06):
different conversations with different people, whetheryou're talking about whether you're talking about vaccines,
whether you're talking about about Russia,whether you're talking about what's going on
in the Middle East, you know, whatever it is. I'm seeing his
worldview kind of morph. And Ithink for me, one of the best
conversations that I that I saw outof him was his two hour interview with
Chris Cuomo, where I found foundI found that one really fascinating because they
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were both giving and taking. Theywere both acknowledging past mistakes where where they
where they were wrong, they wereboth acknowledging, uh, you know how
they've grown, you know, howhow their worldviews morphed than in all of
that. And and I think thata lot of people really missed the point
of that, of that specific conversation, where it's like you have two people
with very strong views on opposing sidesactually having a rational and logical conversation and
(36:52):
finding common ground in certain areas,Like that's what we need more where as
I feel like everybody just gets suckedinto this whole well. Ben Shapiro destroys
leftist college students at you know,at a at a you know, daily
wire event. It's like, comeon, guys, like we've had enough
of that. Let's actually find somecommon ground and move forward. As a
country, and I think that Ithink that that's what is everybody's really desiring,
(37:15):
but nobody's actually giving them. Ithink you're absolutely right. I mean,
I think that's the that's the realkey right there, man, And
you're right. I mean, I'mnot a I don't worship the ground Tucker
walks on, but I do enjoylistening to him. It's weird. It's
kind of like chicken soup for thesoul. You know, I can just
throw on it somewhere where he becausehe says what everybody's thinking, right,
And I think that's what's kind ofswelled and exploded. He you know,
(37:37):
he's he's got the crazy thing isand you know this because we got we
you know, I've had this talkon the on the air, off the
air, but a lot of theissues. I don't have any issues with
talker, but the issue is isthat most of the stuff he's talking about,
Jeff, you and I broke thosestories over a year ago. We
were talking about Mike Ben's two yearsago, and then Tucker Carlson interviews him,
(37:58):
and now everyone and their dog islike me that you be going you've
seen this Mike Ben's. God,I'm like, dude, I was in
Twitter spaces with the guy two yearsago having these discussions. Where the hell
were you guys, And so yeah, no, it's cool to see what's
happening, and it's cool to seesome of these people finally getting listened to
whatever the word is, right,But it's it's it's not new to those
of us that are you know,this isn't a game for a lot of
(38:20):
us, right, It's not newto us. And so that's my only
I mean, I guess it's goodthat he's bringing light to things, but
if you're once again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna beat that
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But like, if you're not,if you're at Freedom First Network dot
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way to get the truth out there. But I went on my Tucker Carlson,
you know, kind of tie rightthere, but like, but basically
I agree with you. I don'tworship the ground he walks on. I'm
glad he's getting it out there toan audience that really wasn't paying attention.
The folks. You could be three, four, five, six months ahead
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I always enjoy our conversations, absolutely, man, absolutely know. We
were talking about pick acts last nightas we see, you know, the
censorship ramp up where you know,we're about six seven months away from a
major, you know, the scariestelection of our lifetime, and you can
(01:36):
you could truly see the censorship onX. Well, for those of us
that you know, aren't throwing softballsaround, you can see the censorship if
you're if you're part of the coolkids club and you're just gonna talk about
the mainstream media talking points, youprobably don't have any issues on X.
But if you're talking about, youknow, some of the issues that nobody
you know, that it's scoffed aboutto talk about, you're getting censorship on
(01:57):
X. I don't even want totalk about, you know, Instagram and
Facebook and the censorship levels that they'rethrowing at people. And then it's amazing.
We brought this up, you andI did last week, and I
brought it up on DC After Darklast week, talked about it last night.
Just happened yesterday. Massive lawsuit fileby the Department of Justice against Apple
nobody's talking about this fileing monopoly chargesagainst Apple for dominating the US cell phone
(02:23):
market. And it just so happensthat you know, you and myself and
Puppet Carlson and myself all on theFreedom First Network and Dcpatriot dot Com,
all of us talking about this.We're saying, hey, wait a minute,
you want to ban TikTok, whichleads to a censorship. It's a
gateway drug of censorship. Right,It's just like the Patriot Act, except
on a social media level. Andwe said, well, sixty percent of
(02:46):
our phones are Apple and they're allmade in China, right, and you
have to say China, like PresidentTrump, China. You have to say
it with a little emphasis to it. Now they're going to go after I
mean, what's the chances that somebodymight have said, you know what,
Jeff Dornick and Matt couch KaiA kindof making sense here, how do we
ban TikTok when sixty percent of thephones in the US are made in China?
(03:09):
Yeah, I mean, come on, Jeff, you know, I
mean, if you look at thehallway, if I'm saying that, right,
I'm probably not as the Chinese phone. But like I mean, we
can't even control the million plus amonth coming across our southern border. Legally,
our government can't control that. Youthink they're controlling the sixty percent of
the iPhones coming in from China?Yeah, well, I mean that's the
(03:30):
thing. It's it's interesting if allthe conversations on my shows this week have
basically all been revolving around this technology, China data, all that kind of
stuff. And I know when Iwas talking with Karen Kingston as well as
Melka, we were talking about howit's like, Okay, it feels like
they're throwing TikTok on the proverbial youknow, sword essentially and throwing them under
(03:53):
the bus, so that way theycan kind of deflect from all the different
ways that they're collecting all of ourdata. And it's really interesting because it's
like, especially when you're dealing withwith China, I would almost argue that
it's more dangerous that our own governmentis collecting our data than China. I
mean, realistically, yes, China'sgonna be gonna be doing some nefarious things.
(04:14):
We all get that, but ourown government is is collecting our data
and funnel funnel funneling that through andthen you actually using that against us,
and our own government is weaponized againstus. So I think we should almost
be more terrified of any and alldata collection than just what TikTok is collecting.
But then we also know that Chinahas has programmed the TVs that they're
manufacturing to have basically two way towhere they can they can be spying on
(04:39):
us. They're doing that with televisions, they're doing that with phones, They're
doing that with computers. They're doingthat with basically all the technology that they're
developing and sending over here. Andon top of that, there was actually
a report that I saw the otherday where your your cars are collecting data
on you, and it's and thenthey're then funneling that that back and they're
selling it off to the highest bider. They're funneling it back to I know,
(05:00):
they're funneling it back to your owngovernment. And guess who the worst
culprit is. It's Tesla, Becausewhat they're actually doing is every time you
plug your phone into a Tesla car, it's actually collecting all the data not
just off of your Tesla, butoff of your phone as well, that
then they essentially now own and it'sfunneling back to who knows where. So
when we're actually looking at this,it's like, why is everybody concerned about
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TikTok when you're you're flipping cars,are collecting your data, which is going
back to going back to the CCP. It's insane. No, I mean,
I mean it is. And andthe crazy part about that is is,
I mean, no one should bemad. Musk has said this publicly.
He's even alluded to his reason forbuying X was for you know that
that reasoning. You know, heknows that they can market the data,
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they can sell the data, theycan utilize it for customer trends and things
of that nature. They can findout what products are hot, develop them.
Look, you know they're they're well, you know, what are people
saying that they need? What arepeople? You know, it's it's a
brilliant strategy on his part. It'sjust the fact that you know, if
if Tesla or you know, Xor those folks have access to it,
then our government has access to itbecause our government spine on everyone and has
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been you know for for you know, six seven decades, you know,
since the since the OSS. Imean, this is basically what it was
founded for now. Granted, youknow we've always heard this, Well,
the CIA, he's not supposed tooperate on US soil. Well, we
both know that's crap. I mean, I mean we know that from from
John Brennan testimonies and things where Obamahas slipped up. And who was the
one Schumer who slipped up? Youknow, when he was talking about you
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know, Trump, He's like,you don't want those key people coming after
you. I mean, like Schumerreally said that, like what four months
after Trump was sworn in, Betterbe careful. You don't want those folks
coming after you. And look whathappened, So you're spot on. I
mean, I think it's just it'sludicrous to me that people can go and
worry about. I mean, I'mnot big on TikTok. I've I've worked
on recently starting to grow my followover there. I got about twenty thousand
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followers on TikTok. I don't knowwhat I'm doing. My kids know more
about TikTok than I do. Ithrow up some clips of stuff that you
and I do or things that Ifind that are humorous over there. It's
kind of, you know, it'skind of like Instagram. If you want
to see what I had for lunch, you can follow me there. You
got like thirty thousand followers over there. But like, it's not the same
thing as when I'm posting on gabor or Getter or rumble or x or
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platforms where I'm not as censored.But Pickax can't get here soon enough for
those of us who are conservatives thatare and are tired of being demonetized,
you know, to helen back.But I'm telling you the censorship level,
folks. Most of these people,and you know these people, you know,
I gotta be careful how I wordthis, but most of these people
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that you see today that people arefollowing, and I mean this with with
kindness. Jeff, I didn't seethese people in twenty seventeen. You know
who I saw. I saw JeffDornick and Matt Cotch. I didn't see
him in sixteen. I saw Jeffand Matt and several others you know that
you know I run with. Youknow, I didn't see him, and
I didn't see him in twenty eighteen, didn't see him in nineteen damn sure,
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didn't see him in twenty twenty orwhen I was going through three years
of lawsuits from eighteen to through twenty. Didn't see m when I was fighting
for the election in twenty twenty andtwenty twenty one, didn't hear from any
of them when I got banned inDecember of twenty one on almost every platform
out there besides Getter and Gab andRumble, and Rumble really was not even
a thing hardly in twenty one,as you and I both know. So
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my point to this is most ofthe people out there that are that are
for this censorship ban, they've neverfaced real scrutiny, They've never faced real
adversity, you and I both Andwhere I'm going with this, folks,
if you're watching you know here todayof course we're live across you know platforms
are on Rumble, of course,Freedom First Network. And if you're watching
this, where were you, guys? I mean, seriously, and Jeff
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knows whe I'm going with this.When Jeff Dornick was banned and Matt Couch
was banned, Laura Lumer was banned, and James O'Keefe was banned, we
were all on Getter having our ownparty, and there was only a handful
of conservatives left over on Twitter atthe time now X and those people benefitted
dramatically from all of us being banned. Alex Jones Band, Matt Couch,
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Jeff Dornic, Gloria Lumer, JamesO'Keefe, Project ver Bad, banned all
of it. You know now it'sO'Keeffe media group, of course. And
I'm leaving a ton of people out, as you know, Jeff. I
mean, there were hundreds of uswere that were banned, that were that
were you know, trying to getthe truth movement or what do we want
to call it call it at thattime. But there were a handful of
people who swelled and grew that didn'tknow that never got banned. And you
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have to question that a little bit, like why were they allowed to stay
when we weren't and others weren't,And why were they propelled and elevated when
every other conservative on the platform wascensored and another thirty or forty million were
banned. Yeah, and so mypoint is censorship is coming. We're seven
months away from this thing, sixand a half seven months, give or
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take. The majority of these peoplethat people are following nowadays didn't I didn't
even know these people. They didn'tshow up till twenty two. Bro weren't
even around to like twenty twenty two, and now they want to be experts
in this whole game of of what'sgoing to happen in twenty four and they
want to tell people this is gonnado you don't you You you have never
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faced scrutiny, You've never faced adversity. You don't know what true censorship is.
You're you're living in a la laall in. This is candy Land
for you, guys. Yeah,but I promise you in the next three
months as we head towards conventions.You know, it's like Kevin Hart says
when he's on a stand up forteam, You're gonna learn. They're going
to learn because censorship is coming ona level like most of these people,
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Jeff have never seen all Land myplane. But that's where I was heading
with that. No, and Ione agree with you, and I think
I've got I've got two points tokind of piggyback off of that. One
is uh, you know, onon my bi weekly show Now with with
mel Kay a couple of weeks ago, we were talking about we were talking
about this very issue where censorship isgoing to ramp up heading into the twenty
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twenty four election. And and Meland again it's it's a theory. I
have no idea what's going to happen, but I would not be surprised at
anything. But Mel's been saying fora long time that at the at the
Democrat convention, Joe Biden's is goingto decline the nomination and they're going to
replace him with a Michelle Obama.And and she said, we have to
be careful because the conservative crowd oftenruns with with with the you know,
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calling Michelle big Mike and talking aboutyou know, how Michelle is actually a
man and the whole deal. Andshe's like, what you're going to do
is you're if you're doing that,you're going to unnecessarily get yourself censored and
ban off of every platform. They'regoing to say you're that you're trans,
transphobic. They're going to use thatin order to protect Michelle Obama if if
she if she does run for president. And so she's like, you guys,
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have we have to be careful andstrategic about the wording that we're using
the choices that we were not unnecessarilycensored. So that's that's one angle on
this The other side of this isthat I think everybody is putting all of
their hope and trust in X andElon Musk and and and the reality of
it is is that Elon is stillcensoring people. He's still shadow banning people.
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What he's doing, he's dangling thiscarrot in front of everybody and saying
free speech, free speech, freespeech. But then he's using the algorithms
so against us. So instead ofcompletely banning us off the platform, what
he's doing is he's using the algorithmsin order to downplay those of us that
are actually getting the truth out there. And that's only going to get worse
as we're heading into the twenty twentyfour election. If you look at the
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worldview of Elon Musk, and Ithink, I think I'm going to do
a Twitter spaces and I'll have youon there, and I know mel Kay
is going to be on the KarenKingston and all that where we're going to
be talking about the worldview of ElonMusk. The interesting, the interesting thing
about this is it's like his worldviewis in perfect alignment with the world economic
form. He believes in transhumanism,he believes in using technology in order to
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in order to basically, you know, centralize the power to a handful of
people. He's basically ushering in theworldview of the world economic form. But
then we're all going to act asif he's on our side and going to
defend free speech and the whole deal. We can't put our hope in our
trust in this multi multi billionaire,the richest man in the world that's probably
going to be the most powerful manin the world very soon as we're heading
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into this pivotal election. And ofcourse I ended my sentence just as you're
taking a sip of coffee. No, I knew you were coming. I
was trying. I couldn't get inthere. I knew you were winded down.
I was trying to get it inreal fast. We've known each other
so long, man. No,but you're right, he's he's admitted to
this. I mean, this isa guy, and I don't have a
problem with Elon Musk A lot ofpeople do. I don't think he's this
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evil, maniacal you know, BillGate. I don't think he's Bill Gates.
Let me put you that way.I don't think he's like buying up
the majority of the farmland in theUS so that he can, you know,
use vaccinated water on the crops orwhatever. I mean, Like,
I really think Gates is probably tryingto do that and be honest with you,
and he's hit mean. And ifyou want to fact check me,
there fact checkers. He does ownthe majority of the farmland in the United
States. Now Bill Gates does.Nobody wants to talk about that, which
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is insane when you think about theinsanity of madmen. That's insane. But
must because even he's even said inthe past, now I think he may
have changed his stance a little bit. It's okay, you can you can
learn, you can get red pill, you can change your opinions on things.
But Musk was even for letting hiskids pick their gender if you remember,
Jeff, I mean he was evenyou know, like they were they
were they were doing genderless parenting.Yeah, uh, you know, I
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mean that that's that's out there withit with one of his exes and so
so yeah, I mean, he'sit's not he's not perfect, right,
and he's got issues. But thisis happening, like Jeff said, it's
not This is not hyperbole, Thisis not conspiracy. This is actually things
that have been said things that arehappening. So you know, when we
talk about Pickaxe launching soon, it'sgonna give a different angle for UH influencers,
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but also people to talk talk ona different level, you know.
And I see I see people talkingabout different platforms, and but we've got
to eventually, at some point finda platform to where we can all come
together or we can't be censored,where we can't be banned. And and
it's still it still doesn't exist it, don't you know, Like I mean,
you've got a few million people onGetter, a few million people on
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truth Social, a few million peopleon gab, a few on cloud Hub,
a few on I don't know thatanybody's on Cloudhub beside you and I,
Jeff, If I'm just being honestwith you, there's nobody to posts
more on that forum than you andI. But uh, but you know
what, we're like the little enginesthat could. We're too We're too crazy
to give up or too dumb togive up one or the other. But
there's other platforms. You know,Maywey's one I really enjoy Maywey, but
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I can't tell anybody's I get moreresponse on Maywey than I do, cloud
Hub by far. You know,it's been around for a long time.
But the problem is is that Jeffand I and others we have to post
on gab, cloud Hub, Mayway, pill Minds, Telegram x, Facebook,
Twitter, Instagram, whatever you've got, we post on them all,
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not because we want to. Idid my Trump hands there. We post
on them all, you know,and so it's it's it's becoming habitual.
I never used to do the handsthing, and then now it's just like,
you know, you just it justcomes with the territory of being in
politics, I guess. But thepoint is it's not we're not having fun
making a thousand Jeff and I aren'thaving a blast making a thousand posts a
day on social media, but we'vebeen censored and both of us have been
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banned. That we were also smartenough to not put all of our eggs
in one basket. And so that'sI think kind of what prompted you to
create pick Acts, man, wasthe fact that you're like, Okay,
look, I'm sick and tired ofbeing censored, and I'm sick and tired
of being demonetized, and these arethe things that we keep addressing. They
keep ignoring everything we're addressing, Likewhy don't we have this for videos?
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Why don't we have this for chatting? Why don't we have this for messaging?
Why can't I make a post andget tipped for it? Right?
And I think about that as aninfluencer on X if you make a post
and it's breaking news, and youand I break news all the time,
and you do a lot of exclusiveinterviews that nobody's heard before, why shouldn't
there be a tip button there foryou as an influencer? Yeah? Good
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point. I mean, I'm nottrying to give too much away. I
know you've talked to me, butI have a feeling there's going to be
things like that in place on PICKAthat aren't in place on any other social
media platform. So if you're aninfluencer, or you don't have to be
an influencer, how you could beJoe Blow that lives in a plant where
something you know, lives in atown where something happened and you and you
post it and you can actually berewarded for your civil you know, your
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citizen journalism if you will, Andand I think that's that's that's what needs
to happen. That's where I that'swhat I'm excited most about Pickax. Jeff,
Yeah, no, Yeah, Welland I think you know, and
I wasn't intending for the show tojust be an infomercial for for for pick
Ax, but but but show becausewe were pissed off about the censors show
no totally on our show last night. Yeah what what and what? What's
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what's interesting to me? Uh isyou know, because as I've been building
out, building out pick acts andlooking at, Okay, what features do
we want, what features can welaunch with which which features can we add
on down the road, I thinkwe've got a whole game plan, both
short term and long term on howto actually do do it properly. But
I can just I just keep lookingat all the social media platforms, both
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as Facebook, the big tech ones, but then also the alternatives. And
I'm just sitting there and I'm likenobody, nobody's looking at it from the
perspective of what's best for the contentcreator. They're looking at what's best for
the platform, and they want touse the content creators to benefit the platform,
And whereas I'm taking the approach moreof what's going to be best for
the user, what's going to bebest for the content creator, the influencer,
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and then we'll figure out from there, how do we make that good
for the for the betterment of theplatform, because we've got to take care
of of the people that are drivingthe social media platform because they are the
they are the life of of anyplatform. And I think that that's where
a lot of these other platforms,like like Getter and gab and clout Hub
and all these other platforms where theykind of missed the boat. I think
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is that they a lot of themreally launched or grew when everybody was getting
kicked off of all the big techplatforms, and so they kind of became
this little silo and algorithmic bubble forthe hardcore maggot influencers. And then as
soon as Elon open Twitter back up, then everybody rushed back to Twitter,
and now they're kind of like it'slike a ghost town on a lot of
these platforms. And for me,I'm looking at this as we're about to
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launch Pickax in the next coming inthe upcoming weeks, and I'm like,
I'm I'm really happy that we're notlaunching at a time when people are getting
kicked off of platforms because I'm beingforced to actually do something that nobody else
is doing in order to entice peopleto leave places like X and Facebook and
YouTube and all these other platforms.Uh So, so we're not just a
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home for all the rejects, ifthat makes sense. And so, uh,
it's gonna be. It's gonna bereally interesting. I think it's gonna
be. It's gonna be more ofa grind than it would have been if
we had the benefit of everybody gettingkicked off. But also I think what
we're gonna be able to do ismake it to where this is gonna be
the right platform for people long term, including yourself, myself, you know,
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other content creators that are that arethat I think are struggling to a
certain degree on X and Facebook andall these other platforms because of censorship.
It's gonna be, it's gonna be, it's gonna be really interesting and to
a certain degree kind of the wildwild West, because I can just figure
out, Hey, I'd like toadd this to the platform, so we'll
see what happens, you know,Yeah, no, I mean, and
that's the way it always works,you know, like you you you wonder
you know, you throw stuff atthe wall and hope it sticks sometimes,
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Right, that's life and that's businessin general. And uh, you know
I do that all the time.And my I've got so many different things
going on because you know, beingas uh you know, as censored and
banned as people like Jeff and Ihave, you have to throw things at
a wall to keep the lights onand food in the pantry for the family.
Yep. Uh. You know,hate to break to everybody, but
Jeff Dornick and mac Couch aren't gonnabe working for any fortune five hundred companies
anytime soon. Uh. It's gonnatake a couple of Google searches and about
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thirty five articles from MSNBC to RollingStone about us, and they're gonna be
like, yeah, we're gonna haveto let these guys go. You know,
they're they're great at what they do, but you know, we just
can't have the uh, the sixtypercent of our liberal employees finding out what
Jeff Doornic and mac Couch say inthey're right and there's private lives or or
in their past or whatever. Andso I think that's something that conservatives don't
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understand. Now. In fact,I know they don't. I don't think.
I don't think. Let me rephrasethat. Jet I know that ninety
five percent of conservatives might be ninetynine percent have no clue about the politics
that goes on in corporate America.They have no clue and they don't realize
that so many of us, youknow, and I'm not saying that,
trust me. It would be mucheasier to go back to my old life
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as a logistic executive making six figures, you know, and just you know,
worrying about managing accounts. But that'soff the table when I, you
know, almost ten years ago,I decided to dive into politics and investigate
Seth rich and fast and furious inthe Las Vegas shooting. And since then
we've put out countless stories that nobodyelse would would report, investigate, talk
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about. And so now my destinyis unfortunately, I don't know if it's
fortunately or unfortunately depends on who youask, is laid out that this is
what I have to do, thisis what God's called me to do,
and so uh, and now I'llbe labeled a Christian nationalists because I,
you know, I brought Jesus intothe equation here. But how dared we
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talk about you know, God's will. You know what am I thinking here?
But but I believe this is trulymy collings what I'm supposed to do.
But you know, people like Jeffand myself, we can't do that
if you don't go to freedom firstand and pick up some gear. You
don't go to faith and freedoms andpick up some gear, if you don't
drop a buck or two here andthere on the rumblet channel or whatever.
This is. This is the waywe we have to do our lives.
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We don't have any other choice becausewe made a sacrifice about a decade ago
when nobody else had the courage to. And we're not the only ones.
There's others out there. But youknow, Karen Kingston that Jeff does a
lot of great shows with is one. Laura Lumer is another one who we're
both friends with. There's you know, Mindy Robinson. There's so many others
out there. Uh, you knowthat, you know that. I I
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mean Eric Matheeni, I mean Eric, I mean he's a practicing attorney,
but I mean he's lucky honestly thathe hasn't been you know more in caps
and attack for what he does consideringyou know, his his his business.
But at the end, and there'sso many others, I don't I can't.
I can't leave everyone off. ButI can't name everyone, I guess
is what I'm saying. But folks, you've got to start supporting independent journalism.
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You've got to start supporting citizen journalists. You've got to start supporting independent
media. Uh. You know,you should be going you should be bookmarking
Freedom First Network dot com and Dcpatriotdot com and you should be going there
every morning. We have some wehave sometimes you have the same stories Jeff
writes for us sometimes and sometimes you'llthrow stuff up that we do. But
at the same time, we alsohave we You're not gonna find these stories
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at Dcpatriot dot com or Freedom FirstNetwork dot com. You're not gonna You're
not gonna roll into bright bart andor are some of these national places.
Everyone visits News, Newsmax or whoeverand see most of this stuff. You're
not right. Uh. The oneI will give a shout out to because
he's a good friend is Jim Hopped. I think Gateway Punted does a phenomenal
job, you know, being uh, you know, one of the leaders
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out there. Is crazy to seethat they are a top five hundred website
in the world, now, youknow, a gateway punt in the especially
considering they literally have had everything thrownthem like we have. So but my
point is, folks, you've gotto support people like Freedom First Network,
DC, Patriot Gateway pun It.If you're not, I don't know what
you're doing. I mean, I, Jeff, I can't even tell you
the last time I watched Fox News. Yeah, that's years for me.
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That's I I shut it off beforethe twenty twenty election. I think I
think a lot of people cut itoff a deer, you know, basically
election night when they started calling youknow a lot of those states, you
know, basically almost like before theyeven like closed the voting boosts and all
that. But I remember, justI'm like, this is just nothing but
propaganda. And they're controlled opposition,nothing but propaganda. And it's interesting and
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and there's there's some breaking news aboutwhat I call con inc or Conservative inc.
You know, on that And thisis another one that this is another
network that I used to watch allthe time, and I cut off.
I shut off a long a longtime ago. Is is is the Daily
Wire and I don't know did youdid you see this breaking news this morning?
Matt god Jeremy Jeremy Boring announced lessthan an hour ago that Daily Wiring
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Candace Owens are are breaking up,and according to reports, it has to
do with the fact that Candice Owenswas not as pro Israel as Ben Shapiro
liked uh regarding the Israel Hamas things. So now Candice Owens is out over
at the Daily Wire. I mean, god, this is probab. I'm
probably the wrong guy to not evenwhy you did it. You've known me
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for a long time, man.I I'll be honest with you, guys,
and I'm gonna say this for allof you out there with love.
And Jeff and I have been aroundthe block. We've spoke on stages all
over the country with a lot ofthese people, and these people gotta be
careful how word this right again withwith today's media. But I'm gonna say
this, and I'm gonna say withlove, Candace Owens folks would not piss
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on any of you if you wereon fire. She wouldn't. I've seen
her where. She wants her ownprivate green room when she shows up to
events with fifty other speakers. I'veseen it firsthand. I've heard about it,
and I only heard about it,but I've seen it firsthand. These
people are making tens of millions ofdollars, you know, and you know,
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and that's that's great. No oneknow I'm not an anti capitalist here,
but I mean, I don't.It's it's interesting to me how you
think you could work for somebody likeBen Shapiro and then take that stance that
she did. I'm pro Israel,as you know. You know, you
and I are in a group chatto where we take a lot of hell
from a few folks and said chatfor our views. But you know,
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I as a Christian, and Irun with guys who are two of my
best friends, and you know himtoo, Pastor Brian Gibson, Pastor Greg
Locke, and I want to throwa third Pastor Todd Coconado. Three of
my great friends in life, threethe best pastors in America. And I'm
a you know, maybe the otheryou've heard of, Christian nationalist. I'm
a Christian and free speech absolutist.I'm a Christian absolutist, right. I
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believe that that Israel. I believethat's God's chosen people. And I believe
that we have a you know,well, I believe what the Bible says
in that realm of things, Jeff. And so I don't know how anyone.
I mean, it's not like youcan say anything good has came out
of Gaza or Hamas. Have theycured diseases? Have they created any any
cool uh you know, scientific discoveries, you know, have they have they
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won any Nobel Peace prizes? Havethey done anything? Have they created anything
over there besides terrorists and gods?You know, not because I could say,
I cannot, you know, tothat point, I cannot think of
a single thing that they have contributedto humanity at all, for anybody that
would be considered a a net positive. Yeah, I mean, it's it's
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just insane to me that we're evenhaving this conversation. And it's amazing to
me too that you know that youkind of see where the people fell.
Obviously, you had the the littlesquad group of aoc Rashida, talib Omar,
ilan Omar, and then the otherone that I can never remember who
just hangs with him, the blackgirl. I can't remember what her name
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is. She's just kind of thefourth wheel in the group, and nobody
really knows her name. But youknow, it's amazing you see some of
these folks that kind of come forwardwith this, but the majoy and then
you see a lot of this reallybrought a lot of anti Semitism out among
people in the conservative movement. Inmy opinion, Jeff, I was really
stunned by the anti Semitic remarks onX by a lot of folks that I
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was stunned to see it by andand and it's amazing. None of those
people have ever been to Gaza,Jeff, None of those people have,
you know, for all the peoplethat are like defending this, let's when
this thing's over, and it'll beover at some point and it'll go back
to the normal chaos that is theMiddle East. I would I wouldn't.
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I would entice you folks to thinkit's such a great area over there to
go over there without security. Govisit the Gaza strip, Go visit Palestine
while you're at it, you know, go visit some places in Syria and
Jordan and Egypt. You know,had to hit up Kuwait, you know,
while you're there, maybe go toFallujah. You know, make make
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the tour right, make you know, there's probably a buster you could get
on over there for cheap, Ibet. Yeah, and uh, you
know, and and just tell metell you know, well, if you
make it out alive, we'd liketo hear your story. But i'd I'd
put I put money you won't makeit out live right as an American.
Yeah, and these and so thesepeople are literally in the streets protesting,
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you know, this insanity from thesebutchers. And but yet they wouldn't The
same people protesting would be killed instantlyif they were to make these trips over
there, yep, in some ofthese places. So it's just I don't
know, it's not it's a commonsense issue for me, Jeff, and
people don't have it. Yeah.Well, it was interesting because last week
I interviewed I interviewed Lauren Whitsky onmy show, and she's somebody that's been
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very anti as I mean, sheshe was obviously shot for a while up
until very recently she was working withStu Peters, and obviously Stu Peters has
basically almost come out as a completeyou know, hate the Jews and Jews,
Jews are the problem of the worldand the whole deal. Squirrels.
Jeff, you what he's notier thansquirrel turds? Oh yeah, oh yeah,
yeah, I think that's yeah.I'm I'm with you there. I
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think what's interesting, you know,talk talking to her is is I kept
coming I kept coming back to thispoint is that, uh, you,
you can be you. You candisagree with Israel's tactics, and that's fine.
They're a government, you know,Like you know, for me,
I've I've been a Trump guy sincetwenty twelve. I've been very critical of
Trump. That that that doesn't meanI'm anti Trump. It just means I'm
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critical of particular decisions. So ifyou if you feel like, you know,
Israel should do this instead of thisin a war or what, it's
like, okay, fine, wecan have that. We can have that
discussion. But I don't see anylogical explanation that anybody could possibly come up
with to be pro Hamas. AndI think that that's where, you know,
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Candace has gotten herself in trouble.I think Lauren's gotten herself in trouble.
And I think that that the thata lot of these people that are
opposing Israel, they're falling for thetrap of disagreeing with Israel's tactics and then
becoming pro terrorist organization HAMAS because whathappened on October seventh nobody can justify because
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that was that was absolute murder,rape in cold blood, Like there is
no rational logical explanation that you cancome up with to justify those actions that
that would, like you're talking aboutwar crimes. That was war crimes worse
than anything that Israel has ever done. And so if you're gonna do that
to me, you're you're you're you'redigging your own grave, and and that's
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the problem. So from that perspective, I think I think that you know,
Candace has kind of gotten herself inhot water for for that, and
it makes complete sense why the DailyWire would would basically part way with her.
I think also on the flip side, there's a bit of hypocrisy on
the Daily Wire's part because they've beenyou know, anti cancer culture, supposedly
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leading the charge for for you know, opposing cancer culture and canceling people and
all of that for their political viewsand ideologies. But then they part ways
with Candace owns because of her politicalviews when it comes to Israel and Hamas.
I know that they they canceled agood friend of mine, Denise McAllister,
for her for her Christian views onhomosexuality. So you know, it's
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it's kind of like there, Ifind fault in both sides of this,
if that makes sense, And Ithink that again, two things can be
right at the same time. Ithink Candice Owens is probably wrong when it
comes to her views and Israel andHamas. But also I think Daily Wire's
wrong for, you know, forbeing hypocrites when it comes to being anti
cancer culture and then canceling people thatdisagree with them on their platform. It's
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just it's I don't know, I'vegot issues on both sides. No,
no, no, I totally agreewith you. And my point was Ben
Shapiro and I have love loss.I mean, we went at it on
Twitter in the past. I meanI think, you know, I've offered
him a golden stool for Christmas,you know, so you can get up
and pick things up and maybe I'llyou know, if he needs help opening
pickle jars stuff like that, Icould help Ben with. But you know,
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these people are so cocky and soarrogant whether it you know, they're
the crazy part is, Jeff,You're absolutely right about the Daily Wires hypocrisy.
But the but the thing is tome, the to me, this
whole thing with Candice Owans and BenShapiro, Both of these people are so
arrogant, so cocky. I feltlike they deserved each other. You know.
It's like you meet a couple andyou're like, man, what a
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what a pile of douchebags, Andyou're like, Oh, they're made for
each other. You know, that'skind of literally where I thought that relationship
was going. I was like,man, these people are made for each
other. And mainly it's just becausethere's no differing views with Ben Shapiro or
Candas Owans. It's their way orthe highway. Have you ever seen them
in any common And for those ofyou watching man couch is mean, you
(33:58):
know, I don't care. Idon't No one that's gonna be upset by
my words has ever supported any ofmy efforts anyway? Uh? But you
have you ever seen a conversation witheither one of those two Candice Owens are
Ben Shapiro? There's the trump pansagain. Sorry, can't stop it.
It's out of control. Have youever seen a conversation with either one of
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those two to where they ever listento anyone they're talking to, whether they're
interviewing them, whether they're being interviewed. Have you ever seen them go,
oh that man, that's a goodpoint, Jeff, that's a good point.
Matt. Have you ever seen themconcede anything they've said to anyone?
And the history of them being inmedia, The answer is no. It's
a definitive no. They talk.You listen. That's it, folks.
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That's not journalism. That's not media. I mean, it's you know,
it's it's insanity. They are sococky, so arrogant. I think they're
I think they're made for each other. I can't wait. It's like a
train wreck. I've got another showafter this one, and I'm on His
Glory at two o'clock, you know, and uh with Pastor Dave, who
we both Pastor Dave Scarlett, greatguy. But I'm looking at My point
(35:02):
is between the three shows I havetoday, I'm very excited about grabbing some
popcorn and watching this train wreck unfoldbecause neither one of those two can keep
their mouth shut. It's gonna beexciting. So I'm gonna grab some popcorn
watch Candice Owens and Ben Shapiro teareach other limb from limb like a couple
of hyenas. It's gonna be fun. Jeff, I'm pumped. Oh yeah,
No, yeah, for sure.And I just wanted to do a
(35:24):
quick contrast too, because I thinkI think it's it's important, you know,
Like, obviously, I'm not aTucker Carlson sick of fan like a
lot of other people in conservative mediahave become. But the one thing that
I can say is that you lookat Benchapiro, candae Own, the whole
Daily Wire crowd, like they're notwilling to have just open rational conversations where
(35:45):
it gives and takes and all that. I would say, maybe the exception
would be like a Michael Knowles maybeout of that whole crowd, I find
that he's probably the most sane andrational and willing to have a logical conversation
with people. But I mean,you look at somebody like Tucker Carlson,
that's all he does. And I'veeven seen his ideology morph as he's having
(36:06):
different conversations with different people, whetheryou're talking about whether you're talking about vaccines,
whether you're talking about about Russia,whether you're talking about what's going on
in the Middle East, you know, whatever it is. I'm seeing his
worldview kind of morph. And Ithink for me, one of the best
conversations that I that I saw outof him was his two hour interview with
Chris Cuomo, where I found foundI found that one really fascinating because they
(36:27):
were both giving and taking. Theywere both acknowledging past mistakes where where they
where they were wrong, they wereboth acknowledging, uh, you know how
they've grown, you know, howhow their worldviews morphed than in all of
that. And and I think thata lot of people really missed the point
of that, of that specific conversation, where it's like you have two people
with very strong views on opposing sidesactually having a rational and logical conversation and
(36:52):
finding common ground in certain areas,Like that's what we need more where as
I feel like everybody just gets suckedinto this whole well. Ben Shapiro destroys
leftist college students at you know,at a at a you know, daily
wire event. It's like, comeon, guys, like we've had enough
of that. Let's actually find somecommon ground and move forward. As a
country, and I think that Ithink that that's what is everybody's really desiring,
(37:15):
but nobody's actually giving them. Ithink you're absolutely right. I mean,
I think that's the that's the realkey right there, man, And
you're right. I mean, I'mnot a I don't worship the ground Tucker
walks on, but I do enjoylistening to him. It's weird. It's
kind of like chicken soup for thesoul. You know, I can just
throw on it somewhere where he becausehe says what everybody's thinking, right,
And I think that's what's kind ofswelled and exploded. He you know,
(37:37):
he's he's got the crazy thing isand you know this because we got we
you know, I've had this talkon the on the air, off the
air, but a lot of theissues. I don't have any issues with
talker, but the issue is isthat most of the stuff he's talking about,
Jeff, you and I broke thosestories over a year ago. We
were talking about Mike Ben's two yearsago, and then Tucker Carlson interviews him,
(37:58):
and now everyone and their dog islike me that you be going you've
seen this Mike Ben's. God,I'm like, dude, I was in
Twitter spaces with the guy two yearsago having these discussions. Where the hell
were you guys, And so yeah, no, it's cool to see what's
happening, and it's cool to seesome of these people finally getting listened to
whatever the word is, right,But it's it's it's not new to those
of us that are you know,this isn't a game for a lot of
(38:20):
us, right, It's not newto us. And so that's my only
I mean, I guess it's goodthat he's bringing light to things, but
if you're once again, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna beat that
drum. Wait, we've been aninfomercial today, So I apologize, folks.
But like, if you're not,if you're at Freedom First Network dot
com or Dcpatriot dot com, youyou you're hearing about stuff sometimes months before
the mainstream media puts it out,yep. And so that's the reason why
(38:44):
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You should go to a rumble channel'sFreedom First Network, DC Patriot Rumble channels,
click the like subscribe button, turnthose bells on, and get those
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and ghost band and I mean,uh, there's there's other terms that I
(39:07):
use for their bands that I won'tsay on this program. But here's another.
Here's here's a little thing. Ifyou go to somebody's profile. Pro
tip here, Jeff, if yougo to the profile and you click the
little bell button right, I can'tdo it on my own, I guess
let me go to Jeff Dornick realquick, hang on, I got this
covered. Were this is? Thisis live Matt Couch chicken pecking here,
Jeff. All right, So,and if you go to Jeff Dornick,
(39:29):
that's at Jeff Dornick and you clickthat little bell with the plus sign that
says notify. If you do thatat Jeff Dornick or at real Mat Couch
and you click that, guess whatyou'll see when we post. You'll see
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You're just not Yep. Chad Caten'sanother one. I know Chad has
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way to get the truth out there. But I went on my Tucker Carlson,
you know, kind of tie rightthere, but like, but basically
I agree with you. I don'tworship the ground he walks on. I'm
glad he's getting it out there toan audience that really wasn't paying attention.
The folks. You could be three, four, five, six months ahead
of Tucker if you would just youknow, follow a few of these other
(40:34):
sites and accounts. It's not thathard yet. Oh yeah, totally totally.
So so then obviously people people shouldgo to the DC Patriot dot com
because you're doing breaking news like whatten articles a day. Practically, it's
it's it's it's wild it's crazy.So make sure this week it's been dumb.
This week, I'm gonna be honestwith it's been really dumb. So
all I can say, I'm exhausted. Oh yeah, definitely. So guys,
make sure you guys are going overthere. H So, Matt,
you you got a couple of showstoday and then also you you've got your
(40:55):
weekly show Thursday nights at DC afterDark. You're doing two nights a week,
one then a week. We arewe are, Yeah, I got
I gotta clarify this because you knowJeff, poor Jeff who you know,
thanks to Freedom First Network, theythey handle the hard work, the heavy
lifting for us, back end stuff. Uh stream keys all that stuff.
And uh So Monday night, DavidPollock Show on d C Patriot, d
(41:15):
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Show. That's seven pm Eastern Time. Then on Tuesdays and Thursdays, we're
gonna go to Tuesdays and Thursdays.Again. We're trying to figure this formulaut.
We're a new show with DC afterDark. We went four days a
week, we went one day thentoo. Now we're going back to two.
So Tuesdays and Thursdays, eight o'clockEastern time, d C After Dark
(41:36):
with Matt Couch, David Pollock andPuppet Carlson. We're the only conservative show,
only show I know of in politicswith a real puppet and you know,
and he's talented Puppet Carlson, souh, you know. And we've
got new new gear coming out becauseI always say on the show when I'm
talking politics, Jeff always say,I'd rather be drunk at a waffle house
with puppet. And we actually havethat shirt coming out, several different variations
(41:57):
of it, and it just says, I'd rather be drunk at a waffle
house with up. But I'm gonnaget one you should too. That'll be
available at Faith in Freedoms dot com. But yeah, I mean, we're
having fun, man, we're havinga blast. Big thanks to Jeff and
and JD and the guys over atFreedom First because literally they're hand you know,
they're getting us up on you know, Spotify, iTunes, rumble.
They they handle a lot more behindthe scenes than most people realize. So
(42:19):
appreciate you, brother, really do. Man. No back at you,
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We'll be back again next week foranother round of Sunrise Statesman. This is
the most laid back and fun andone of the most fun shows I do.
Man. I love what I do, and I'm blessed with you on
(43:20):
a couple of shows with this showin DC after Dark that don't feel like
work, man, and this isyou know, you know my qual man.
I always I've done a lot ofmedia over the years, and they
always end up feeling like work.This one in DC after Dark don't.
And I'm having a blast with bothof them. So we'll see you guys
next Friday at our normal time.I at eleven am. All right,
eleven am Eastern? Is that right, Yeah, eleven am Eastern. Yep.
(43:44):
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