Republicans Defend Intelligence Agencies Spying on Americans | Sunrise Statesmen with Matt Couch & Jeff Dornik - The DC Patriot

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mean, at a certain point you'relike, like, okay, so I'll

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just preface it with this. We'vegot we've got basically Republicans now defending abortion.
We've got Republicans now defending on spyingon US citizens. I mean,
all of this in the same week. What the heck is going on?
I mean, it's amazing. LikeI was, you know, I was
yelling at my at my television,my my amazing cleaning ladies here this morning.

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They come every Friday morning help meout, you know, since the
U the leg thing and uh andso I just happened, you know,
as early in the istry. Imean, the argument started early Jeff,
just to basically to censor and spyon American citizens, and they were given
the argument. It's it's unbelievable.Like I was, I you know,
normally I'm not I'm not the guy. I don't I don't watch a lot

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of TV. I think you're thesame way. I mean I do.
I get a lot. I doa lot of reading, get a lot
of my information off of that.If I watch TV. It's not like
you know, it's not mainstream medianonsense. If I watch something, if
I'm sitting down to watch something,it's a movie. I despise commercials,
you know. So I'm watching,you know, a movie, or I'm
streaming something, but I'm not watchinglike network TV. But I just happened

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to turn it on because it wasearly in the morning, like seven thirty
my time, so eight thirty onthe East Coast, and these clowns were
already arguing on why they need morethey need they need to be able to
spy on you. Chip Roy's outthere right now, Chip soy as I
like to call him. You know, he's out there right now advocating for
why he needs to be able tospy on you without warrants because you know
that'll help, you know, becauseterrorism, you know, terrorism always terrorism.

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You know the good old Patriot Act, George Bush that you know,
this thing started and you know it'sit started in two thousand and one,
basically with nine to eleven and theyused And what most people don't understand,
who haven't looked into this, thePatriot Act was written before nine to eleven
took place, right like several yearsbefore it. And I'm not insinuating that

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anything was planned out. I'm justsaying it's hellaciously coincidental that this this was
ushered in and was planned. Youknow, this thing, it kept getting
denied, deny, denied, andthen nine to eleven happened, and then
all of a sudden, this thinggets passed overwhelmingly by your government and now
they're spying on you without warrants.They've used it to basically persecute a president

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and Donald J. Trump, theyused it to spy on a sitting president
on multiple levels with the fiz ACcourts. They've used it to spy on
American citizens they don't have have awarrant. They I literally watched it.
I don't even know which Congress guythis was. They're all adults. There's
you know, I know, Ihave the ones I hate the most,
like Dan Crenshaw and Chipsoy and peoplelike that. And I hate that about

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Chipsoy because I'm just gonna call himChipsoy for the rest of the show,
Cheff. But I hate that aboutChipsoy because I really liked he. He
was a constitutionalist and I think heis to a degree, you know,
he was. He was a DeSantisguy, and he absolutely got wrecked,
you know by the Dilli meme teamand several other people when he came out
for DeSantis and chilling for him.But these guys have all lost their way

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so bad, and they if theyever had a way to begin with,
right, And so that's the thingwhen you look at this, I mean,
you look at the ways and meyou look at all the different committees
out there, all they are concernedwith. Right now, you think about
the problems Americans face, right,I mean, and I feel like I
go every show that I'm on,I go down the empty shows, wars

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on multiple you know. And Ilove Alex Jones. He's a friend,
So I'm not trying to make himwith the wars on multip Cotton is the
globalist. You know, We've gotyou know, empty shelves, supply chain
issues, record high gas inflation.My god, the globalist and the commedies
are everywhere, you know. Ilove Alex, He's a dear friend.
But at the same time, Howdo you not have these conversations and then

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go, wait a minute, allof these problems in America, almost a
million homeless Americans, a million illegalaliens coming across our southern border every month,
unchecked, unvetted, tens of thousandsof Chinese nationalists, Iranian nationalists coming
across that southern border. And thisis this is what they're spending their time

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on on DC. You know,we need to spy on Americans. You
know, you wouldn't need the FISAAct if you close the damn border.
You would need the FISA Act,if you would stop letting terrorists in through
our southern border. I mean,I'm on a I'm on a rant today,
Jeff. I'm sorry, I'm justI mean, it's not like what
I say matters or anyone's gonna listen. But this is a common sense issue.
To me, It's just a commonsense issue. So let me get

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this straight. You're you let it. You've done nothing. Neither party has
done anything other than Donald Trump totry to secure the southern border. He
put a plan together to build amassive wall to give them the funding and
backing that they needed. It wasonly going to cost four billion dollars for
the wall. Jeff, we've sentthree hundred billion to the Ukraine. Biden
wants to give eighty four or eightyfive billion for student loan debt. By

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the way, Jeff, I'm sureyou and your in your better half,
who I love both of you todeath, you know, your dear friends.
But like I'm sure you both wentto school, you got degrees,
you put you're paying it off oryou paid it off. How do you
feel about that that a bunch offree loaders are gonna get theirs paid for
for free? Are you guys gonnaget Are all of us that went to
school gonna get rebates? Are yougonna get a check for our tuition that
we paid off? Totally? Doesthat work? And see like that,

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like that that's the that's the hypocrisyof everything that's going on. And and
and I'll dive into this a littlebit later too, where you know,
like on Wednesday, went down tothe border, had a tour of the
border wall with border patrol and all. That was really interesting hearing hearing their
perspective on on things, for sure, but but specifically on this Piza thing,
because I think that this this isthis is a really important thing.

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And did you see did you seethe clip of UH Speaker Speaker Johnson talking
about his flip flop? No?I did not, so actually so he
so the Blaze posted this clip.It was like a thirty second clip or
whatever. And so here here's thedirect quote of what Speaker Johnson said.
He said, when I was amember of the judiciary, I saw the

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abuses of the FBI, hundreds ofthousands of abuses, and then I became
speaker and got the confidential briefing tounderstand how important it is for national security.
That's the direct quote from Speaker Johnson. So so basically, I get
a pay raise and a nice cushyoffice and damned if we don't need to
spy on Americans exactly, well,it's it's the and so what what's really

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interesting is that there was there's alsoa video going around of Judge Napolitano and
he was talking about in the finaldays of being with of Trump's administration,
before he before he left, andthere was the transition over to Biden.
You know, Trump called Napolitano toask to ask him his his advice on
you know, people he should pardonand all that kind of stuff in the

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final days, and Napolitano told Trump, hey, yeah, you know,
there's one promise that you did thatyou made during your campaign, but that
you did that you haven't kept youshould probably do And Trump's like, yes,
I'll do it right now, tellme what tell me what it is
and all that. And he's like, you didn't release the JFK files,
and and Trump made the point he'slike, he's like, yeah, you

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know, you know what He's like, I had the intelligence agencies come to
me and they showed me the files. And he's like, if you saw
what was in those files, youwouldn't release it either. And it's really
interesting because it's it's it's at whatpoint are we looking at this are like,
how can we trust that the intelligenceagencies are telling Johnson and Trump the

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truth? Are are they being naivefor trusting them? And also on top
of that, we're supposed to bea government for the people and by the
people, right and so you know, we're supposed to be a self governing
society. To me, there shouldbe very little that we that we do
not have access to, Like ifit's like an active thing that we're going
to compromise a spy as long asthey're doing things legally, like of course,

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yeah, keep things under reps.But also on the flip side,
you're looking at this, You're like, we, I think we have a
right to know. I don't carehow bad it is. I think we
have a right to know about theJFK files. I think we have a
right to know about about what's goingon behind closed doors with Speaker Johnson,
and and I think that we havea right not to be spied on by
our own by our own government.So what is it that these intelligence agencies
are telling these guys that is sodamning that they're not willing to defend our

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constitutional rights. Well, I meanit's it's it's alarming too when you think
about it, you know, Jeff, I mean it's it's it's I mean,
I I just don't I just don'tbuy that there's all of these I
don't know. I think they're sofull of crap, and they've been unequivocally

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proven to be full of it formany, many years now. The American
people don't trust their government at all. I mean, you could do.
You've seen the national polls. Iwould say, you know, like it's
like seventy five percent don't trust theUS government. They are US citizens because
of everything that's came out, especiallyin the last seven eight nine years,
with what people see what they're doingto Donald Trump. They see, you

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know, like I mean, youcan sit here and say, okay,
well maybe tax property with you know. I hate to break it to folks,
but with the whole situation in NewYork, it's not like Trump appraised
himself. Folks, you know,that whole situation is the dumbest thing.
And then you can and then whatwas it. Was it Jimmy Kimmel or
one of those guys or Cobert,I don't know. It was one of
those guys ended up selling a property, you know, and ended up you

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know, it was like worth threemillion and they sold it for like eighty
million. I think that was JohnStewart, Yeah, John Stewart. That's
one of those. They're all liberaltalk show host clowns. I can't keep
him straight. And so but atthe end of the day, New York
judge, they try to make thisclaim on Trump. This is where the
whole FIZA thing comes into me.And I have a point to this.

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So, first off, Jeff youhave to ask yourself where are they getting
this information from? Right? Firstoff, how would you how would you
know this stuff over the last fifteentwenty years. It went unchecked all this
time. And now that he's runningfor president and he's leading by seven,
eight, nine, ten, twelvepoints in every national poll, he's leading

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most swing states by seven eight pointsover Joe Biden. How would you know
this? And then this information,well, we know because that's what they're
fighting so hard for right now inyour television sets. They are using this
information and they are politically weaponizing itagainst their opponents or people that the establishment,
because the GOP is not any betterthan the Democrats. You know,

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I have all these people that aremad, we're gonna have Speaker Hakim.
I'm like, bring it on.I got Hakeem the dream shirt. It's
ready to roll at Faith and Freedomsbecause honestly, I can't tell a difference.
I can't tell a difference between MikeJohnson, h Nancy Pelosi, Kevin
McCarthy. You know what, Bringon speaker Hakeem jefferies Hell. Hell can't
be any worse because the GOP isnot doing anything. They oust George Santos

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because they don't agree with his politics, because he's also a Trump and an
America First guy. I mean,imagine having a three or four person lead,
you know, you and I ownaccompany, Jeff, and we're on
the same side, and we've gota board of directors, and then we
go, you know what, weshould get rid of Tom and Bob,
you know, and give ourselves avery slim majority on the board. Jeff.

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That's literally, what the what thewhat the GOP did? Right?
And so but as I you know, as I go backwards, I'm going
I'm bouncing around here. The moralof the story is, folks, is
that they need these fizes so thatthey can spy on American citizens, so
they can spy on Donald Trump,so they can spy on their political opponents
like General Flynn, and then theyuse that information they find to levy it

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against these people to silence them.That's what the Alphabet agencies are doing and
and that should concern and scare thehell out of all of you. The
Patriot Act as a sham. Wewe have you seen any stories, Jeff
about anything being thwarted? I haven't, No, I haven't. I haven't
seen a thing Now I'm not sayingthat it doesn't happen, right, that

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it doesn't happen, But when isthe last time that our government if they
if they if they did something good, didn't didn't didn't throw it out there
to the press for an Ada boy. Right? So with that being said,
I think that's that's that's kind ofto you know, I don't know
if I've answered your question or not. Maybe not. I kind of bounced

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around if they're like a politician,but I just I just can't understand how
both both sides want to spy onyou. And I'll and and I've said
this before, I'll say it again. Before the November fifth election, the
Democrats will take control of Congress.Something, somebody's gonna resign, somebody's gonna

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take a step back, and you'llhave speaker hackem Jeffries. I'll bet money
on it, right, Yeah,I would, honestly, I wouldn't be
surprised. And this and this isthe thing that I keep that I that
I just keep trying to sound thealarm and it's just I just feel like
it's it's falling on deaf ears.It's like when you when you actually when
you actually look at at what's goingon in politics, like when it comes

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to like spying on Americans and allthat, the only person who's actually articulating
a position on this in any raceit is r f K. And I'm
like, that's that's less of anend of an endorsement of RFK and more
of an indictment on the GOP,Like where is the GOP defending our constitutional
rights? Where is the GOP exposingall of this kind of stuff, Like

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like like, yes, Trump's goingout there saying kill Faiza, Yes,
totally agree, we definitely should,but where's the articulation of what they're actually
doing? Like this is more thanjustice. I don't want to defend Trump
here. I don't want to defendTrump, but I mean that you brought
up the JFK stuff, right yeah. Trump was literally about to release it
all and out of nowhere. Hehad CIA, d IA, FBI,

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all of these people literally on him. You know, you know they you
know, there's an old I can'tI can't say it's a movie scene,
but it's like, you know,they were literally on Trump, you know,
like a you know, like agrain of rice on a paper plate
in a snowstorm. Right, Likethey were all over him and they were
like, hold on a second,you can't do that. There's still this

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Bush Senior guy who was involved inthat JFK thing. Right. You know,
most people I think are smart enoughto realize the reason why that he
couldn't release that back in twenty seventeenwas because Bush Senior was still alive.
And now it's just been it's justbeen buried again, and so on the
JFK situation, Like the American peoplehave a right. You know, it's

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been seventy years, do you haveIt's been only seventy years, and they
continue like we were supposed to beit was supposed to have been out what
like twelve years ago something like that. Yeah, with the Warrant Commission,
and so so they continue. Trumpwas gonna release it, and then all
of a sudden, these alphabet agenciesstart rearing their ugly head. You can't
do that. You can't do that. We have an unelected body in this
country. It's why guys like youand I and many others get targeted,

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harassed, threatened, sued and byand it's it's pushed by our government.
It's not pushed by these individuals thatcome after us. But it's all,
in my opinion, it's all ledby the US government to silence people like
us. And what I mean bythat is you're not allowed to go out
and say the truth, which thetruth is is that unelected people like the

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FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the DA, they are running America.
They are running your politicians. Everythingyou see on your TVs with these
guys that are elected as a show. And basically, in my opinion,
you know, on the whole,no one who was not elected should be
telling anyone who is elected what todo. Our constitution pretty much speaks on

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this. Now we have a balanceof government, you know, with the
executive, the legislative, and thejudicial branches of government. But can you
imagine our founders if they were like, so, why didn't you guys get
this done? Oh? Well,you know there was a circuit judge,
sir, in the state of Illinoiswho won't allow us to Can you imagine
telling Thomas Jefferson or you know,or John Adams or any of these great

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leaders Benjamin Franklin, you know,John Hancock, any of these guys.
Can you imagine telling these guys,oh, you know what we tried to
get that done. But there's thisfederal judge up in Illinois and Ohio that
said, we can't do that.Can you imagine that conversation today with those
guys. Yeah, think about thatfor a second. This was never how
our government was intended to be ran, and they are running it into the

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ground. Folks. Yeah, Well, it's a good point because it's like,
when you think about it, theythey declared independence from the King of
England who was violating their constitution,violating their rights that they believe should be
in the Constitution, that should beprotected, that are an alienable that are
given by God, and all thatthey broke. They broke away from somebody
who was out of control, tyrannicaland being oppressive to the to the colonies.

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And then now here we are withbasically the exact same thing happening,
except that it's the judicial branch basicallytaking the role of the King of England
here in this country. Because whenyou think about it, like I think,
the way that we've been kind ofpropagandized and brainwashed I think in this
country is we've been trained to seethe judicial branch is the highest branch in

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the government. They're all supposed tobe equal. They're all supposed to have
their own checks and balances. Butwhen you think about it, the only
branch of the United States of Americathat doesn't have a check and balance is
the Supreme Court. Because last Ichecked, executive branch they can't they can't
overturn a judicial decision. The legislativebranch, they can't overturn a judicial decision.
So when you think about the SupremeCourt of the United States is the

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only unchecked thing with a lifetime appointment. There is no way of overturning and
that I've heard some people say,like there's that there should be something that
goes back to Congress or the Senatewhere maybe you could overturn a Supreme Court
decision with two thirds of the voteor three quarters of the vote or something
like that. I would be allfor that because there needs to be some
sort of check and balance. AndI think that the judicial system has run

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rampant and out of control because thereare no checks and balances. And unfortunately
the same thing is happening with theintelligence agencies. We've been trained and reinforced
that they are above Congress. Congressis supposed to have oversight and the Senate
supposed to have oversight of these intelligenceagencies, but then all they have to
do is come and say, look, that's privileged, that's classified. I
can't tell you, and then allof a sudden, there's no more transparency.

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They're not beholden to anybody. Right, Well, it should be just
like you said, like an impeachmenttype situation, you know, like two
thirds of the Senator, two thirdsof the House. You know, they
can overturn a ruling. There hasto be there's there's no checks and balances.
And again, the alphabet agencies andthe judges in this country have become

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lawless and are running roughshod over theAmerican people. You know, are are
I mean are elected a fi?I mean, there is no way that
somebody that the people elect should haveless power than people that are appointed.
Yep, it's not. It goesagainst everything our constitution stands for. And
meanwhile, unfortunately that's what's happening,and that's why, you know, giving

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giving these people this kind of powerwith the fives of warrants, these judges
is absolutely criminal. And really,if it weren't for the Trump situation,
I don't think the whole fives thething would have really came out to the
degree it has. You know thatif the whole Russia gate, you know,
the Russian hoax thing didn't come out, You know, Jeff, I
don't think the American public, orat least those that are paying attention,

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would know what we know about howbad and how far gone our court systems
are. And because we didn't know, you no one really knew what the
FAISA was, right until they spiedon Trump. You heard about it,
you know, Oh yeah, it'sa c you know, And then all
of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute, it's a secret
court. What the hell do youmean it's a secret court. We don't
do that in America. That's stuffthey do in Russia, in Iran and

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North Korea and China. But nowas we continue to educate ourselves and we
start peeling the layer in the onionback, and you have guys like Tucker
Carlson who goes to Moscow, andwe start going, wait a minute,
have we been lied to about Russiathis entire time? What's the coincidence that
the people of the countries that weare told to hate are all not part

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of the global banking system. Thatseems kind of weird, doesn't it,
Jeff. I mean, nobody wantsto talk about and that's strange that Iran,
North Korea, Russia, and China. None of those guys are part
of the global banking system. Butthat's the ones that we're told to hate
by our media and our government.I'm not saying they're great places. Probably
don't want a vacation in any ofthem. You know, that's because most

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of them are you know, youknow, I don't. I definitely don't
want to go to Iran or NorthKorea. Russia looked pretty nice though,
from what Tucker, you know whatI saw? Yeah, great looking grocery
stores and subways. Yeah, there'sthere's subway. I mean that that was
nicer than I think any any evenlike skyscraper in New York where they've got
you know, old school architecture orwhatever. That that was interesting to see.

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Well, and you know why thatis because they don't tolerate crime,
they don't tolerate people coming in andtrying to take their cultures and dominate Russian
culture. We have taken this meltingpot thing to a moronic level in America,
and so we're letting people come inthat hate our ways of life,
hate our values, you know,hate everything about has come in. And
then we're going, wait a minute, Jeff, Matt, you guys have

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to have to cater to you know, to these guys. And you and
I are going, no, no, the hell we do, No,
we don't. And then and thenthat's the real problem. Like that's why
when people go, why is itwhy are Russia's cities so nice? Because
they don't let cultural people come inthat don't agree with their ways of life
and destroy their country, right,well, you know, and it's and
it's really interesting too because it's likewhen when you look at the big immigration

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of boom that happened in the inthe early nineteen hundreds, like like those
people they would come over here,they would still have they would still hold
onto their culture. Like a lotof times, the different people from different
places they would come in, theywas a lot of times if they were
you know, the actual people thatwere immigrating here, they were still speaking
their original language, they still hada culture, their their own culture and

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all of that, but they weren'tcoming in and forcing it on everybody else.
And I think that that was thebeauty of the melting pot that that
we had on the early nineteen hundredswas that you know, you had people
coming from Greece and from Ireland andfrom France and from Italy and from all
these different places. They'd come inthey have they would everybody who kind of
have their own pockets. They couldlive their American dream, they could be
free, they could do whatever theywant. But there wasn't like the you

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know, the Italians coming in andfor and forcing the British to act like
Italians like like that. That justwasn't the way that it was. But
it is. It is really interestingwhere it is right now to where it's
like our government is saying is beingvery anti American culture, anti freedom,
anti constitutional rights. It's like wehave to embrace the ideologies and the beliefs

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and the customs of all these othernations, these third world nations, these
communist nations, these Marxist nations,and we have to accept them while downplaying
our own system. And I thinkthat that's the danger in all of this,
and I think that's also the dangerin the whole illegal immigration system as
well, is that what we're doingis we're amplifying and building up people that
are coming from completely anti American societiesand cultures without at the very least getting

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them to buy into the very ideaof these of our constitutional rights and the
founding of this nation. Like,I don't care if you come in and
you bring your Mexican customs or yourbrazili In customs, or your customs from
India or whatever. Do that byall means? Like, in fact,
I find it kind of sad thatwe're kind of getting rid of of a
lot of people's culture and history andand things like that by being a melting

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pot where there is no history.I think, I think we're missing a
lot of really important lessons and traditionsand things like that. But but also
it's like it's like what we're whatwe're doing is is we're completely eliminating all
of that. And I find thatdangerous because I think we're we're downplaying the
role that history plays in the lessonsthat we learn moving forward. Yeah,

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no, I totally agree with that. I mean, like, and you
know, Jeff, no one likesCinco de Maya more than yours. Truly
here, you know who doesn't youand your cultural appropriation? Man? Come
on, I'm telling you, man, who doesn't. Who doesn't like some
margarita's and some and some tacos andburritos and no. But I mean it's
it's not that, it's the factthat they just you know, they they've
literally taken everything away from us.I mean, like, you know,

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kids aren't being taught about the meaningof you know, like obviously most of
the kids are out of school forMemorial Day, but you know, we
used to actually learn about Memorial Dayin our schools, about what it meant
and those who gave the ultimate sacrifice, right and nothing. You know,
coming from a military family and havingflags on my mantle in my living room,
like nothing irritates me more than listeningto folks try to try to talk

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like, you know, think aveteran. I'm like, that's not what
it's about, you know, likelike we're not even teaching our youth about
these things. They know, theydon't know how Labor Day came about.
They don't the Fourth of July.I mean, uh, it's it's amazing
the same. I'm stunned that theFourth of July is still as big as
it is with the anti American sentimentin this country from these younger generations.

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But but you're right. I mean, it's it's it's cultural appropriation. You
should literally, you know, youshould literally just according to you know,
the mainstream media and our government,you should cater to everyone that's not American,
and uh and and you should likeit, Jeff, you should love
it. You should embrace their cultures, not your own. And if you

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and if, by the way,if you want to embrace your own cultures
or you want to love America,you're a racist and a bigot and a
homophobe and a xenophobe and whatever elsethey can throw at you. Yeah.
But what's interesting, though, isit's like, on one hand, we're
told, you know, don't don'tembrace American culture because that's you know,
white supremacists and racist and a bigand all that kind of stuff. But
you but you also so you haveto reject your own culture, but you

(27:26):
also cannot embrace other cultures because thatwould be cultural appropriation. So essentially,
if you find yourself to be Caucasianor white or American, you're not allowed
to have essentially any culture. Youcan't have your culture and you can't adopt
another culture because both scenarios are racist. So it basically means we have to
completely eliminate all of our history,all all all of our traditions, all

(27:51):
of our customs and all of thatand just basically be, you know,
people without any like a culturalist society'sIt's really interesting the double standards here.
So, Jeff, you're telling methat I can't celebrate Kwansa, No,
that that would be racist. Wow. Okay, but if you don't celebrate
Quansa, it's also racist. Soeither way, it's racist because you're white.

(28:14):
Interesting anyway, So so no Quansafor me, all right, I'm
just I'm just curious, all right. You don't want to appropriate somebody's culture,
man, come on, wow,So no Kwanza, no, uh,
you know, no Sinko de Mayo. I'm just s o l Yeah.
Pretty pretty much. Pretty much.You cannot make up make make up
the stupidity of the left. Now, Okay, So I'm gonna I'm gonna
I'm gonna throw throw a wild cardat you because because we were we were

(28:36):
talking about a little bit on theConspiratorial Patriot Act nine to eleven, whatever
it is, and we we hada comment in the in the live chat
over on Rumble, which everybody goessubscribe to Freedom First Network on rumble that
we guys get notified about all ofour shows and all of that. Uh.
But but they but they basically wantto know what's your take on the
on the nine to eleven conspiracy theories? Uh, specifically because they said,

(28:56):
don't don't you find it difficult fortwo airplanes that can make that type of
trajectory Usually the buildings that that tallfall to the left of the right.
That is a fact proven by aformer high ranking military officer on his glory.
What's your take on all of that, because you know, I inter
preps it too. I was supposedto have on an architect, Richard Gage,

(29:17):
onto my show and then I'm reschedulinghim and he's and he's going to
make the case that it was controlledexplosions, demolition whatever, it was,
not the planes that toppled it.I have no idea. I always say
I don't necessarily know what happened.I just know what didn't happen, And
it's a lot of times what theyportray. But one of your thoughts on
that comment there in the live chat, you know, I think there's a

(29:38):
lot of like you said, youknow, we don't know what we don't
know, right, or we don'tknow what we think we know. It's
like a scene from Dodgeball. Youknow, nobody makes me bleed my own
blood, you know. And soyou know, see, I'm torn on
this because there's a there's a slewof people that don't think that a plane
hit the Pentagon. Yeah, butI have been one of my best friends
and mentors in life happens to beKron Rob Manis, who is a you

(30:03):
know, thirty two year retired AirForce colonel. He's commanded thousands of troops.
He's flown in all of these bigplanes and stuff, and he was
at the Pentagon. He was thethird person out the door after it hit
and identified the engines of the planeand has told me that verbatim. I
don't believe that Colonel Mannus is lyingto me. We've been friends a long
long time, Jeff. You've beenat events with Colonel Manis like I have.

(30:26):
We've hung out, we spoke togetheron stages. Rob's a dear friend
to both of us, and soso that right there kind of threw a
lot of some of my theories offon things. When I when I heard
from a dear friend, He's like, no, dude, He's like,
I was there. I was literallythe third person out the door, running
out to see if there were anysurvivors. Yeah, you know, and

(30:49):
you know it's it's it's one ofthose things where so you have that part
of it going because I was oneof those people that I was like,
Okay, yeah, that doesn't looklike a plane, right, there's no
way that was a plane. Andthen Colonel it's just kind of literally like,
you know, pop my balloon onthat scenario. Now, going back
to the buildings, right, mythought on it, I think you can

(31:10):
probably explain to the two big buildingsright the World Trade Center. Yeah,
but I've still yet to see anyonetry to explain Building seven from like three
blocks away collapsing right now. Iheard. Now the rumor is I there
was like some expert on and hewas all, well, here's what happened.
A hot ember from the other building. You've seen this right, Like
it fell on the corner of thebuilding and caught fire. And I'm like,

(31:33):
wait a minute, you're telling methat, Like it like it's essentially
somebody blows out a scented candle andthat little spark burns their whole house down,
which is very rare, very oddif that were to happen, right,
so well, and not just burnit down, but have have the
whole building collapse, Like that's awhole other conversation. We're talking about a

(31:56):
whole different level of heat, rightlike so so like you know, your
house I catch on fire, butthere's a big difference between your house catching
on fire and being incinerated, rightAnd so that's that's to me, Like,
I mean, I don't buy thata piece of hot rubble fell ended
up on Building seven and got sohot and burned it to the ground that

(32:16):
it collapsed, right like that,that's the that's the one, you know,
common deminator. They have another goodfriend of mine, Frank Whalen,
who was who was on my investigationsteam with Seth Rich who was the head
of NYPD Homicides for twenty three years, and he led the nine to eleven
investigation. And of course I've askedFrank this question. I I don't know,

(32:37):
this is probably I probably shouldn't talkabout this too much because I don't
want to, Like, you know, a lot of people lost, a
lot of people, especially in NewYork City, and I asked Frank.
You know, I've asked him.You know, we've traveled together and investigated,
you know, seth Rich around thecountry. And I remember, I
think I was sitting at a restaurantwith him and Ty Clevenger, one of
my attorneys, you know, inBaltimore back in twenty eighteen, and we're

(33:00):
having having you know, as guysdo when you're investigating murders. It's pretty
depressing. And so we're having afew few cores cors lights, you know,
and shooting the bull about the case. And I just asked him,
you know what you know because andFrank said, well, first off,
I led the investigation. I wasover the homicide squads for New York City.
He said, what most people don'tunderstand is how many, how many
tips we were getting on terrorist cellsback then. And he said, I

(33:22):
can tell you from firsthand how manydoors we knocked in and we would go
in and there would be nobody there, but there would be you know,
fragments and bomb parts, and youknow, they they really, it really
did clean out a ton of theterrorism in the United States. Yeah,
that was that was set to gooff. And he's told me about how
many different times they busted indoors andthey found you know, C four and

(33:45):
bomber residue and all this stuff inthe US, you know, stuff like
that. And then, uh,but the other thing that he told me,
I asked him, I said,well, when did you not think
this was kind of shady? Andhe said, Matt, the first two
years after nine to eleven as aguy who headed up NYPD homicide squads,
you know, he said, hesaid, he said, I'm literally we're
chasing down terror cells all over thecountry because you know NYPD, if you

(34:06):
remember, they kind of got deputizedchief. They were all over the country
with the FBI rating places trying tofind the terror cells. But he said,
also, he said every he said, every time I turned around,
he's like, every week, I'mgoing to a different funeral. He said,
most of you guys don't realize howmany cops and firefighters died on that
day and how many continued to dieafter the fact. From the nine to
eleven cancers that were there on theground. You know, we're talking hundreds,

(34:29):
if not thousands that have passed awayover the years, right, And
he said, so the first twoyears, he said, I was literally
going to funerals and chasing down terrorcells, and so I think not making
excuses. But that's a perspective.I don't think people that want to go
down the rabbit hole really had achance to engage in of what those guys
were going through. You know,you know, so many dead cops,

(34:52):
so many dead firefighters, and thenthey continue to die from the nine to
eleven cancer way after the fact,still are to this day. It's kind
of how tunnels to towers, youknow, started all, there's a whole
whole thing when you dive into thisbuilding. Seven makes no sense. I
thought the Pentagon made no sense tillColonel Mannus blew my theory up on that
one. I still I still believe, you know, and this is just

(35:15):
me. You know, we gotwe went down this hole, didn't we
Because I'm not the I'm not.I think you're both. One thing about
both of us is we're not thenine to eleven conspiracy guys. We're just
not, you know, I becauseI don't think I know a lot about
it. I don't think many peopledo. Hey, we have and it'll
say yeah, and I'll say andI'll say from my perspective, like I'm
all for asking questions, like Iwant to know questions, but I'm not

(35:37):
going to say definitively what what Iyou know, what I quote unquote know
to happen, because I don't knowthat's my thing. I I'd rather ask
the questions and then see where itleads. No, And like you know,
Flight ninety three, I think that'sit, right, the Pennsylvania one
that you know allegedly crashed again theory, I can't prove it, but I'm
I'm about ninety nine point eight percentconvinced that we shot that one down.

(36:00):
I think that one was headed tothe White House, and I truly believe
that we shot there are what soundsbetter the passengers wrestled the you know,
the terrorists and the plane crashed,or we shot down an airlinerer killing you
know, two hundred Americans, right, Yeah, Well, and I think
and I think on that on thatpoint, it's you know, I think

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a lot of times we're not toldthe information uh that's really going on.
And this goes back to what we'retalking about earlier with with JFK and and
all these other things, uh,you know, and a lot of it's
to protect you know, our owngovernment from from particular things. Some of
it justified something, but I wouldargue the vast majority of it not.
But what's interesting here is that isthat, like you said, it's like,
what sounds better they went and wrestledand took down the plane themselves and

(36:44):
sacrificed themselves to say basically save thecountry essentially, or that we shot down
a plane filled with innocent, innocentcivilians. It's like, okay, which
one would make sense? And Ithink on that note as well, especially
when it comes to nine to eleven, one of the most plausible alternative theories
that I've heard. I was talkingwith Jason Nelson, who who's a former
military guy, you know, veteran, all all of that, and one

(37:06):
of the things that he was sayingwas that he's like, if you're looking
at what happened and with the twintowers of nine to eleven, and obviously
it sure it sure looks like acontrolled demolition. They just fell straight down.
And like this said a lot oftimes, like if a plane was
the hit, you would think itwould topple over to the side or be
off kilter or whatever it is.But he's like, we could probably He's
like, with with my military background. If the military was like, look,

(37:29):
get in there, you have fifteenminutes to set up explosions like and
control the controlled explosions and things likethat. He's like, we could get
in and out in like twenty minutesand get and get that set up.
And when you think about it,it's like, what would be safer for
the for the people that are surroundingin the other buildings to have a controlled
demolition where it's going to fall straightdown or for it to topple over into

(37:49):
other skyscrapers. So if I thoughtabout that, true, Jeff, I've
thought about did we pass? Andonce again, are you going to admit
to that that you killed thousands ofpeople in those buildings to save thousands of
others? Right? So they probablyweren't going to make it anyway. It's
it's it's a horrible thing to thinkabout, But I don't think you're wrong.
I've thought the same thing, like, if that thing, if there's
if they they if they are tofall over and then all of a sudden,

(38:12):
now you've got half that, youknow, half the city on fire.
If those two two buildings go leftand right and down or however that
works. I mean Uh yeah,I mean could you could you have sent
in, you know, the militarytype engineers and been like, hey,
we've got to We've got to dropthese buildings because if we don't, if
they topple over, we're gonna havethree city blocks on fire on top of

(38:34):
we're under a terrorist attack. Youknow, it's interesting, man, nobody
likes to hear that. But Imean, like, you know, especially
if you're the families of like Flightninety three and you know, like that
they were shot down, because Imean, you hear these stories, but
we don't. And by the way, I don't know that we've ever unless
I'm wrong, and correct me ifi am. Have we ever gotten the
black boxes from any of these planes? Not that I've heard any of them?

(38:57):
Right, four planes, Pentagon,Pennsylvania, you know. And then
you know, do we ever havetho's ever been released to the public?
Right? Yeah? Good point?Why why not? It goes into the
whole thing we're talking about with thefives and the secrecy. This has to
stop. They work for us,They don't rule us, folks. You

(39:17):
know, it's a government of thepeople, by the people, for the
people, not you know, not, Hey, can we not raising our
hand and going hey, uh,you know, do you guys care if
we do this? That's not howthis is supposed to work, right,
exactly any of this works. Yeah, and the boy, we sure went
down this path as a country.Jeff, No, it's for sure.
And I think even going back tothe whole FAZA thing, it's like it's

(39:39):
like we're you know, we havewe have the GOP and in our own
government basically making the argument and makingthe case that yeah, we need we
need to basically essentially weaponized the governmentagainst the American people for quote unquote national
security. But then on the flipside, we basically do nothing about the
insanity that's going on on the southernborder. And like I was telling you
earlier, like like I was juston Wednesday, was down at the border,

(40:01):
got a tour from Border patrol.They were telling the stories of everything,
and I remember asking asking them,I was like, what what is
it that needs to change in orderfor you to do your job and do
your job right and correctly, Becausethey're like, you know, this is
the worst. This is the worstthat we've ever seen. This is down
in San Diego. They're just inSan Diego alone, they're processing nine thousand

(40:22):
illegal immigrants a week, about halfa million illegal immigrants a year right now,
are going just just through San Diego, just in that little that little
strip right there. So you tellme that there might be more than a
million. Huh yeah, I washire country. Oh yeah, for sure,
for sure, and and that andthat. But but you know,
I remember asking him. I waslike, what is it that that is

(40:44):
doing this? And he's like,it's the loopholes that our government is allowing.
He's like, if if an illegalimmigrant comes across the border and they
claim asylum, whether it's legitimate ornot, they get a court date,
what happened? What happens with that? We're so backlog it's gonna be two,
three, four, five years downthe road before they get it.
So they basically they come in,we arrest them, they claim asylum,
probably not legit, but they're notgonna go before a judge for several years.

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And so then they come in,We give them a cell phone,
we give them all of these things, and we give them a work visa
to work here in the United Stateswhile they're waiting for their court date.
So he's like, literally, wewill have illegal immigrants come across the border
with a bucket a KFC that theygot in Tijuana, and they come across
and they sit in the middle ofa field eating their fried chicken, waiting

(41:28):
for us to come pick them up. And then, because guess what,
they get a free ride. Theyget processed, they get a work visa,
and they get to be here forat least two years while they're waiting
for a court appearance. He's like, that's why everybody's coming over here.
And then they just claim asylum,asylum, asylum. It's like, come
on, guys. And the otherfunny thing too, is he's like,
we can tell what country they're comingfrom based upon the story that they're telling

(41:49):
us. He's like, everybody fromIndia tells the same story. He's like,
and at one point, ninety percentof illegal immigrants that we're coming across
down there in San Diego were fromIndia. He's like, everybody coming from
other countries tell a different story.Or Mexico's a different story, Panama is
a different story. He's like,I can tell what country they're from based
upon the story they're being told totell to tell us, and he's like,
I can't do anything about it.I see through their bs, but
they get a court case which isgonna be years down the road, and

(42:12):
then now they get to come in. He's like, if we can so
to bring this full circle. We'reweaponizing the government against American citizens and spying
on Americans, but we're doing Jacksquat about the threats to this country down
there at the southern border and allthe loopholes that were allowing them to take
advantage of How does that make anysense at all? I mean, it

(42:35):
makes no sense, Jeff. Imean it makes no sense. And I
was just thinking of, you know, we talk about the Southern border.
I mean every time I think ofthe Southern border, I think is Speedy
Gonzalez, you know, And doyou remember Speedy Gonzalez or my deity myself?
You know? And then and Ithink it's Speedy Gonzalez. And I
don't know if you can even hearthis or not. I was just can
you hear this? Yep? Ican so anyway, Sorry, But I

(43:02):
mean that's you know, that's that'sliterally what it what it reminds me of,
Like they're just running across the borderlike Speedy Gonzales. And I'm sure
you'll be like Matt Couch and JeffTorneck racially use Speedy Gonzales. I'm like,
you know, most Hispanics I knowthat I'm friends with think Speedy Gonzalez
is hilarious. And they they actuallygot pissed with Looney Tunes canceled him.
But but literally, it's like Ijust I just picture like thousands of illegals

(43:24):
going to readbout anyboy as they runacross the southern border every day, you
know, and it's like a scenefrom Looney Tunes. There's no there's no
accountability. You know, if onlyDan Crenshaw was as tough as you know
his his Twitter posts, you knowhe'd be I mean, it's it's unreal,

(43:45):
man, Like I don't know,Like we have a big, big,
big deal coming up November fifth.Obviously it's it's a presidential election,
and no matter who wins, well, I mean, it's obviously it's gonna
be Donald Trump to lose. Inmy opinion, RFK Junior is going to
play a pivotal role here. Ithink with Nicole Shanahan, it's going to

(44:07):
lean a lot more Liberals, JoeBiden people voting for r f K Junior
than Trump supporters. But if ifwe don't get this right as a country,
America, in my opinion, inthe next four years, if if
Joe Biden is re electing, Americawill be unrecognizable. The insane thing is

(44:27):
is I kept I keep thinking GavinNewsom's coming in, but it hasn't happened
yet. We're we're almost a Mayyeah, and now I mean, I
don't know. I keep hearing,I keep hearing theories that it's going to
be at the Democrat National Convention,and that it's going to be it's going
to be uh Michelle, Michelle andNewsome, that that that'll be the ticket,
which woul which would be insane.But but I had interesting theory that

(44:50):
because I was I was thinking throughthis because on my show with mel Kau
yesterday we were talking about you knowthis very thing with you know Trump,
and then how does RFK play intoall of this and all of that,
And it's like what RFK has done, which I think I think is a
beautiful thing for this country, ishe's woke up a lot of Democrats to
the thing that the MAGA crowd hasbeen talking about for years, election fraud,
corruption of the party's, corruption ofthe intelligence agencies all like the you

(45:15):
know, more of an America firstforeign policy all that kind of stuff.
And there's been a lot of Democratsthat have come over to him, and
actually, our way of thinking,we both made the case whether or not
you're going to you know, theseDemocrats that are now voting for RFK,
whether or not they're going to votefor Trump or not, we should be
uniting as a movement because we allhave the same ideology on the vast majority
of the things, and we've gotto take on the bad guys. The

(45:36):
one thing that I'm that I'm theorizingis that if you look at the way
the Democrats are portraying RFK, isthat they're saying that he that you know,
both both sides are basically saying he'sgoing to be a spoiler, you
know, for the other side,right right, right right. But what
if what if you know, they'regoing to rig the election coming up in
twenty twenty four, but they're notgoing to flip votes from Trump to Biden.
They're going to flip votes from Trumpto RFK enough to where RFK splits

(46:00):
the vote. And then and thenit becomes the plausible deniability, like,
look, we didn't wrig the electionfor Biden. We did. What do
you what are you talking about?But in all reality, they flipped concerted
Republican votes to RFK votes, andthen they can pass it off that look,
RFK did a lot better in Republicanyou know, ballots than we thought
he would. Kind of a thing, and then it becomes a plausible deniability
thing. I keep feeling like they'resetting us up for for something along those

(46:22):
lines to where again they can getaway with keeping Trump out of the White
House. I mean, I thinkthat. I think that's the theory,
you know you I mean, Ithink that's that's what they want to do.
Is they want to, you know, find a way to keep him
out of the White House no matterwhat. You know. Talking with our
good friend, you know, EricMetheny last night, and uh, you

(46:42):
know, it's not something I don'tlike to you know, I don't like
to speak no wrong, I don'tspeak great all the time. But what
I mean by that is, like, you know what the Bible says about
speaking, you know things, youknow, you want to be careful how
you how you do certain things.But Eric, Eric Methaniy's a great friend
of ours. I was gonna say, I don't know if I should say
this, but up hell it's youknow, with with the fiz of stuff,
they've already seen what he said.If that makes sense, right,

(47:04):
Yeah, obviously with all of usbeing influencers, and Eric's a great friend
of yours, of course he's gotto show, you know, Eric and
Bob save America on Freedom First Networkon Saturdays. But you know, Eric
said his biggest fear is if Trumpwins them trying to take Trump out,
and he said he's really and I'venever heard Eric talk like this, but
he said he's very, very worriedabout it. And we were just we
were chatting back and forth last nightabout about things in life, and I've

(47:25):
never you know, I've heard peoplemention it jet, but I never really
thought that it would. You know, that that's a concern, like they're
they're running out of options, right. It's like when I was dealing with
Seth Rich and I got you know, suited into the Stone Age. I
had a couple of my attorneys,great guys, you know, Eaton Quaint
and Ty Clevenger and then some otherfolks you know that I was talking to,

(47:45):
uh, you know, intelligence communitywise, and they were like,
look, you realize that if thisdoesn't work, you know what their next
option is, right, And youdon't want to hear that as an investigator
or an American or somebody who's justtry and get the truth out, But
you realize they try the legal easeapproach, right, and if that doesn't

(48:06):
work. You know, I alwayssay this, I don't care who you
are, Jeff, when you talkabout the Clintons, nobody has eighty five
friends who committed suicide yep. Andso that's a scary thought. You know,
you look at John F. Kennedy, you know they you know they
they literally have killed presidents and andso what are they willing to do?

(48:29):
I mean, the secrecy of JFKis going on seventy years yep. Obviously
they played a role in it orthe information would be released. Yeah.
Well, it's to the point noweveryone, I mean even to everyone from
Tucker Carlson to Alex Jones, toeven people that aren't even know there's to
me. To me, Alex Jonesand Tucker Carlson are not friends. They're

(48:52):
actually great journalists and they speak truthand that's why everybody now hates them both.
But even mainstream guys are saying thatthe CIA was involved in JFK's assassination.
Now, yeah, when you thinkabout it, it's like if if
there is a legitimate fear of thishappening with Trump, and and maybe part

(49:12):
of the problem is maybe Trump feelsinvincible, maybe he feels like, you
know, he's got good security.I have no idea, but it's like,
to me, the safest thing todo would be to expose that for
everybody to see, so that waythey could see exactly how they took out
JFK to where it's kind of likeyour your safety precaution against against them doing
it to you, because look,if they do it to you, then
you'd be able to see the patternsand what they did with with with JFK,

(49:34):
because arguably they probably use the samestrategy, the same tactics. They
have a set up guy, afall guy that'll take the blame for it.
They'll take a shot from over here, they'll make it look like it
came from over here, and thenthey pin it all on this one guy
and then they take him out shortlythereafter, so that way you know,
he can't talk, he can't squeal. The whole deal It's like, you
know that that to me would bethe strategy that they that they would employ.
To me, what you would wantto do is you would want to

(49:55):
expose that and shout that from therooftop so that way it doesn't happen to
you. And I think, youknow, for you know, you know,
there was there was one guy thatI spoke to at a conference that
I spoke with, and it wasyears ago, so I'm totally forgetting his
name. And I don't know why, but I'm forgetting his name. But
you know, he was somebody thatthere was a whistleblower exposing how the Obama
administration was covering up for Islamic terrorismthat was happening here here in the United

(50:21):
States. And he told me,and this was in October of I believe,
twenty nineteen, he's like, ifif just you know, I'm not
suicidal, and you know everybody alwayssays that now, but he's like,
I'm not suicidal. He's like,if something happens to me where it looks
like suicide, I was taken outbecause I have X you know, this
information, this information whatever it is. Within four months, he quote unquote
committed suicide. And you're like that'sthe level that they will go to.

(50:45):
And then they do a quote unquoteinvestigation, it goes nowhere, they don't
discover anything, all that kind ofstuff, and then it just gets buried
under the rug. And you're justlike to me, you should be shouting
that from the rooftops in order toprotect yourself from that happening. Or at
the very at least, if theydo take you out, then all of
us know exactly how they did it, who did it, and then we
can actually hold people accountable. Butif you continue to keep the secret like,

(51:07):
they're just going to continue to havepower over all of us. No,
one hundred percent. And I mean, you know, you know,
and of course it's I guess Ican say now it's all over done with.
But one of the best tips thatI ever got when I was in
the height of the seth Rich investigationwas I got a message from Sean Hannity,
you know when you know, andhe before he stopped, you know,

(51:30):
talking about it and investigating it,and all he told me was because
we were really uncovering a lot ofstuff that people didn't want us to find
out, and he said, youneed to get very very loud and very
very vocal. My friend, hesaid, he said, it will keep
you alive. And that was fromSean Hannity, you know, that was
that was many many years ago.It was like twenty seventeen. It was

(51:51):
a text message or something like thatthat came in. Yeah, and and
so I think that solid advice.If you've got information sitting on again you
you know, it'll get you killed. It's true. Yeah, I remember,
I remember dealing with I was dealingwith with some stuff. It's crazy
to think about, but I wasdealing with some stuff in the evangelical world.
And I think I've talked to youabout this before, where you know,

(52:13):
I was exposing a lot of corruptionand stuff going on with Pastor John
MacArthur's church out out in California,and it it it got so bad to
where like I literally had stalkers fromfrom the church that that were stocking stocking
me, posting pictures of where Iwas tracking me down, all that kind
of stuff. And MacArthur's kind ofbecome this kind of conservative, this conservative
you know, figurehead to a certaindegree because he took a stand against Newsom

(52:37):
with Jenna Ellis and and all thatkind of stuff. But but like,
you know, I remember talking toa police detective who was like, you
do you do realize they're basically likethe mafia. They're like a cult,
right, they have they have peoplein the church within the l a p
D. She's like, we've gottenclose to uncovering like uh, you know,
uh, you know, sex traffickingwithin the church. We've exposed abuse.

(52:58):
They cover things up. They doall this kind of stuff and get
close to exposing it, and thenthere's like a detective that shuts down the
whole thing or a lieutenant that shutsdown the whole thing because like, oh
guess what, they're a member ofthe church. And she's like, just
the one thing that I'll say isyou have to be careful. And she's
like, don't don't keep anything insecret. If if they if they're stalking
or whatever it is, expose them. If they're doing something, expose them
publicly. That's going to be oneof your best safety things because then it

(53:22):
because then if something were to happen, then immediately the blame goes on to
them and everybody everybody's focused and attentionwill go on to them. She's like,
that's one of the best things thatyou'd be able to do to protect
yourself. It's like the same advicethat Hannity gave you. And but it's
crazy that I'm you're dealing with withpolitics and the Clinton's, I'm dealing with
like a big, major, mega, mega church out here and out here
in communist California. It's it's it'scrazy that was happening in the evangelical world.

(53:45):
It's honestly, it's nuts when youthink about it, Jeff, that
this is real life. Yeah,I think that's I think that's the I
guess the scariest thing about it isthat this is real life. You know,
this is not a it's not agame. And uh, you know,
it's like Julian Assance said, hedoes you know, he said it
better than I can. He said, you know, I don't think Americans
understand what's at stake with their politicalprocess and and and the and the powers

(54:09):
that be. You know, hebasically alluded to that we kill people all
the time in politics right to tobasically control the narrative, silence the truth,
uh, control governments. It's it'sinsane when you when you really dive
into this situation, it's really reallynuts. And but you know, it's
crazy to think, you know,like certain groups, like certain churches,

(54:30):
you know, Scientology groups, youknow you look at you know, I've
had some threats from those groups.Back when I exposed Joy Villa for being
a fraud, you know, everyone'slike, oh, she's amazing. I'm
like, here she is wearing afield of burn shirt and they're like,
you're an asshole, Mat Couch,and I'm like, sorry for exposing the
truth. You know, but bythe way, she's dating a Satanist and
since all of her money, you'resending her to the Church of Scientology.

(54:53):
And then she came out with thatstatement because of me, I know,
you're in the same boat. AcceptI don't think people how many people I
and and you have exposed over theyears, it's kind of funny when you
think about it as a team.It's just but like I remember when when
I put all that information out andshe came out like I can be a
Scientologist and a Christian at the sametime, and I'm like, no,
no, you can't. That doesn'twork. That doesn't vibe. I'm it

(55:15):
doesn't pass the spell check. Andso like that was kind of the justification.
And then if you remember, notlong about an hour. A year
or two after that, she cameout and accused one of Trump's top confidants,
Corey Lewandowski, of sexual harassment,claiming he slapped her on the ass.
And I was like, I triedto warn you all about this one.
I tried to warn everybody. Butyou know, I mean, it's

(55:37):
pretty simple. If you if you'redating a Satanist going into a church of
Scientology, you can't be a Christian. Yeah, it's true. And then
all of a sudden, you weara maga dress on the red carpet.
But at the same time, youknow, three months prior, you were
wearing to fill the burn shirt.Yeah, you know. But but don't

(55:58):
worry about that. Don't worry aboutthe truth. Jeff, you are the
true grifters here, you know doingOh yeah, obviously you know the truth
on a regular basis grifting dot Com. Check out our website and uh,
we should we should come out withthat website just just to troll everyone exactly.
We should create that hey, andto be honest, we could probably
make a killing at it. Igot I gotta say, we could spell
it wrong too, with my Arkansasuh lingo. You know, just g

(56:22):
R i F T e in andthen we could the logo could be grift
and g R I F t apostrophein. There you go. There you
go a little Southern twenty to it. Oh yeah, oh yeah for sure.
So so okay, so so soobviously to bring a full circle as
we're closing out too, it's like, okay, so we're dealing with the
we're dealing with our own party basicallyjustifying the government spying on us and being

(56:44):
weaponized against us. And we've gotthe Speaker of the House that's basically saying,
like, look, the intelligence agencies, they showed me information that even
though that they're committing abuses, theyneed to commit the abuses in order to
keep us safe for national security.They always use national security in a very
general tur terminology, very general definition. But what what do we do about
this? Because I think I thinkthat's the thing where a lot of people

(57:06):
feel very disheartened and like we're goingup against like the mafia of all mafias
in our own government that that feelsthat they can that they can justify violating
our constitutional rights in order to inorder for their benefit and more power and
more control for them so what theheck do we do in response to all
this? You know, I mean, that's a that's a great question.

(57:29):
I mean I'm more I look atthings and I go, why are why
are Americans so confused on what todo? Right? Why? Why is
there no clarity? I mean,like, you know, you've got good
folks to follow, like Scott Preslerwho do an amazing job registering new voters
and and and being on the groundand boots on the ground, and there's
there's you know things obviously, youknow, getting involved. We talk about

(57:52):
this religiously of getting involved at thelocal levels, the state levels, the
federal levels. But then I haveto look and then I see people like
Mario Na fall All, you know, who are literally you know, hosting
you know. I mean, I'mjust I'm I'm stunned by this, and
I'm gonna say it out loud becauseI might as well. You're Americans taking

(58:13):
political and economic advice from non Americanswho don't live here. Like, I
don't know about you, but I'mnot asking people in Zimbabwe who I should
vote for, Jeff. I thinkthat's a part where you're getting your information
from. And I think people haveto do due diligence there and go,
Okay, why am I listening tothis clown? What has this guy ever

(58:37):
done for me? I think we'retoo uh. I think we we enshrine
in celebrity. Celebrity. I don'tif that's a word. You know,
there's are you know, they theythey put these so many people put these
people on a on a level thatthey shouldn't be on from an influencer standpoint.
And I'll say this, don't takewhat Jeff and I are saying,
you know, go go look itup, go research it, you know,

(58:59):
I mean, don't you don't haveto take what we say here.
I mean I encourage you to dothat. In fact, you're probably not
educating yourself if you just take peopleat what they say. You got to
go beyond that anymore. But Ithink that, you know, when you're
talking about how do we fix this, how do you help it starts with
you know, people have to putin the work. And nobody wants to
hear that, right, They don'tlike hearing What do you mean I can't

(59:20):
just listen to the boobtube and goalong with it. You can't in your
kids' futures, your grandkids if you'rea little older. You know, their
futures are depending on us as asociety to stop getting things wrong. I
put out a meme yesterday and Imeant it. You know, I feel
like you and I are pretty goodparents, Jeff, but I'm biased.

(59:43):
But you know I meant this memeand it said, to the children of
America, we have failed you,and I apologize and we have as a
society, we have literally failed thepeople under the age of eighteen in this
country. Parents have failed them.Grandparents have failed them. Politicians have failed

(01:00:04):
them. You know, it isit's they should never be dealing with what
they're dealing with. They shouldn't.They shouldn't be dealing with drag queen story
hours. They shouldn't be talking aboutoral sex at age twelve in public schools.
Our children should be able to dolike we, you know, we
should be. We should be kidsmeeting when I was growing up and we

(01:00:25):
were playing with g I Joe's andTransformers at ten, eleven and twelve,
not discussing oral sex and and andand worried about the world ending and all.
I mean, it's it's unreal whatwe've done to our children. And
I think if you really want tomake America better, it starts there.
You know, get to a schoolboard meeting, get to a city council

(01:00:45):
meeting. Not for the political aspectsof it, but just because you owe
it to your kids to make surethat your local officials aren't screwing them up.
That I mean, and if youwant to fundamentally take America back,
it starts with two things. Withthree things starts Number one starts with Jesus.
Number two, it starts within thehome, you leading by example,

(01:01:06):
if you're a man, be thehead of the household. You know,
it's what the Bible says. Andthen number three getting involved, right,
if you really want to change America, it starts by getting our children to
where they don't feel like they're havingto grow up too fast. They're attacked,
they're involved, and your kids shouldnever know. And as a parent,

(01:01:30):
your kids should never know you're strugglingfinancially, even if you are.
They don't need to hear about that. They don't need to hear about your
marriage problems. I mean, likeone thing, I got to give my
parents credit for. They've been marriedfifty three years. Je fifty four in
November or sorry, October fifty fourin October. I never once saw my
mom and dad fight in front ofme. If they had an issue,

(01:01:50):
they would go to the bedroom,close the door. I could hear him
yelling, but they never did itin front of me. They've been married
fifty three years, and I think, to me, it starts in the
home. We've got to, youknow, you want to fundamentally change America
from the inside out. We've gotto stop letting our kids being indoctrinated in
the schools, and we've got tostart doing a better job as parents.
And we've got to start holding schoolboards. Sorry, Mary Garland, you're

(01:02:14):
gonna hate what I just said there. We've got to start holding administrators,
teachers, union school boards accountable forthe indoctrination of our children. I don't
care about it doesn't matter if you'rea regular I don't know what a regular
stripper is. I don't care ifyou're a female stripper, a gay stripper,
tranny, I don't care. Butyou have no business doing it around

(01:02:35):
children under the age of eighteen.Period. People don't understand. They're like,
oh, you guys, it hasnothing to do with being a xenophobe
or a homophobe. I don't care. You know, I don't care if
they If you know, I gotta, I'll guess I'll throw one of my
celebrity crushes out here. I don'tcare. If you're, you know,
dancing in lingerie and you look likeLisa Booth, right, you shouldn't be
doing it in front of the kids. You know. That's the that's the

(01:02:58):
biggest problem that we have. Andso you ask, how do you fix
it? I think it's got tobe fixed in the home. I think
it's got to start with the withparenting. It's got to start with making
sure your kids aren't indoctrinated. Andthat's the short answer I guess for me,
because if we don't fix that,they're not gonna need fraud in the
next ten years. Jeff, ifwe right now, right now, you're

(01:03:21):
you know, seventy seven percent ofeighteen to thirty five year olds voted Democrat
in the twenty twenty presidential election.Think about that number of folks. Seventy
seven percent of eighteen to thirty fiveyear olds voted Democrat and the twenty twenty
presidential election. That's not fraud,that's indoctrination. If we don't fix this
problem, I'm blessed to have SaraHuckaby Sanders as a friend and my governor,

(01:03:45):
and she's got school choice role andI think we've got over almost eighty
five hundred kids now in school choicein the state. It's a slow process,
but it's working. That's got tobe a roll out federally. And
you should be able to, Jeff, you should be a you know,
you and your better half should beable to, you know, to put
your son where he wants, whereyou want to put him. I should
be able to put my two daughterswhere I want to put them. And

(01:04:08):
every parent across the country, thatmoney should go, just like on an
EBT card to a parent, andyou should be able to take that money
and it can only be used infor school right right, But now you
can go, okay, I wantI want my kid to go to this
charter school, this Christian school,this private school. Or if you've been
the quarterback and your dad was thequarterback and your grandpa was the quarterback of

(01:04:30):
the of a of a local highschool and you want your son to be
the quarterback, then hell, goto the high school. But you should
choose where that money goes, notthe federal government, not the teachers' unions.
And that's how we stop the indoctrinationprocess. It's how we fundamentally start
to change in America. We've gotto start it with our children. And
I'll yield back, man. Iwent on my little school choice rant.
Sorry, bbody, no, no, I will. And I think the
piggyback off of that, I think, I think the reality of it is

(01:04:54):
really easy to feel disheart and itreally easy to feel like, Okay,
the government has too much power,which they do, but that we can't
do anything about it. And it'sand I think the very fact that they
that they feel the need to indoctrinateour children in schools, the very fact
that they're pushing propaganda in the mainstreammedia, to me is proof that we
have more power they than they leton, because otherwise, like, if
if we didn't have that much power, you know, you know what they

(01:05:15):
would do, they say, theywould say, yeah, we took out
JFK, So what what are yougonna do about it? Because if they
actually had the power, then itwouldn't they wouldn't have to cover anything up.
But the fact that they have toindoctrinate is that they have to push
propaganda that they have to manipulate uswith fake news and fake information. To
me shows that we the people actuallyhave a lot more power then we realize.

(01:05:35):
But we're allowing them to do allof this by our consent by not
doing anything about it. And themore that we can empower ourselves and empower
our kids to actually understand the truthwhat's actually going on, expose all this
kind of stuff, and stop playingthe games that the mainstream media and the
and the globalist elite want us tobe playing, then guess what, we

(01:05:55):
can actually take our country back.And I don't think it would take that
long to actually do so. Ifwe can start waking people up and we
stop consenting to this power grab bythe intelligence agencies, by our government,
by our party like it like,Okay, at what point are we gonna
be like, yeah, well youknow what, Speaker Johnson, what you
said there that should get you vacated? And we and every single Republican in

(01:06:16):
the country was on the phone withtheir local with their congressmen representing them until
literally like you don't stop until theyuntil they until they vacate that spot,
Like that's how you do things.But we're not fired up enough to do
it. So guess what, we'reallowing them to do it, and we're
consenting to do it by not actuallydoing anything, by our apathy. And
I think that's the thing that weneed to realize, is we've got more

(01:06:39):
power if we actually just take it. And so that you know, I
you know, I think you know, that's a perfect piggyback off of what
you were saying too, because itreally comes back to don't allow them to
indoctrinate our kids, don't allow themto indoctrinate ourselves, and we take our
power back. That's that's the wholeidea that the Founding Fathers wanted for us.
No, I agree wholeheartedly. Iagree, And I think that's the

(01:07:00):
that's the kicker here. You know, like you've got to you know,
you've got to want to. Imean I always tell people, if it's
not for you, do it foryour kids. Yeah. I mean,
imagine telling your kids that you know, America has fallen because you didn't want
to do anything, because you didn'twant to speak up, you didn't want
to say anything. That's how thisthing gets corrected. It doesn't get corrected

(01:07:23):
by sitting on your hands and beingpassive and and oh, it's not my
problem. I'm gonna go. I'mgonna go watch Miffy's softball game. Can't
make it to that city council mediumwhere they're talking about making our kids wear
skirts if they're males. You know, I mean, like it's insane,
Like it shouldn't even be this hardto figure out what it is for people,

(01:07:45):
and you know, and that's that'sthe real kicker to me. I
think school choice has got to bethe number one priority of our party moving
forward. It won't be, butit should be. Because here's the thing.
If another ten years, like I'mgonna reiterate that point, seventy seven
of eighteen to thirty five year oldsvoted Democrat in the twenty twenty presidential election.
Another ten years goes by, nowit's eighteen to forty five year olds,

(01:08:12):
they're going to vote seventy seven percent. You see what I'm saying.
If you don't change this, yep, they're not going to have to cheat,
folks. It's just going to bethe way they vote because they're being
indoctrinated. Because we as parents,we as conservatives, we as Christians are
not are not doing anything. We'reallowing this to happen. You've got to
stand up. You've got to buckthe system. You've got to go to
school board meeting, city council meetings. You need to be demanding school choice.

(01:08:36):
It should be the subject at everyschool board meeting, every city council
meeting, every statewide and federal andthe fact that it's not shows how much
power the corrupt, evil teachers' unionsin this country have. They have a
stranglehold over your elected officials, andthey have a stranglehold over your children.

(01:08:57):
And again it's another non elected groupcontrols things, Jeff, Like we talked
about today with all the alphabet agencies, teachers' unions are just as big as
thugs as these alphabet agencies in mymind. Yeah, yeah, no,
for sure, for sure. Soyou know, on that note, as
we're wrapping up as well, uh, you know, everybody go to the
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But DC patriot Is is really wherewhere I go for all the breaking
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You know we've got It's interesting becausethere's you know, like the one that

(01:09:40):
that cracks me up yesterday that wewe wrote was the uh and we've got
a bunch of we going up todaytoo. But these patriotic line dancers that
were literally kicked out of a hoedown in Seattle because they were wearing American
flag top a bunch of gorgeous femalesline dancing. I mean, first off,
you're line dancing and it's a hoedown. Did you what did you

(01:10:01):
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I don't know about you, Jee, and I don't know you're in California
in Arkansas, so I probably attendeda couple more hodowns than you have.
Just gonna throw that out there froma from a theoretical standpoint, I will
give you that. Yes, youknow, maybe just a couple more.
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(01:10:24):
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