November 13, 2025 • 65 mins
Trump makes communist moves during anti-communism week, Senate Dems cave, Trump and Epstein, a massive MAGA food fight, Elon's words, heads roll at BBC and another sports betting scandal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to episode two hundred and sixty seven of the
Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm
your host on today's show. President Trump declares this to
be anti Communism Week and proceeds to act pretty much
like a communist. He also completely whims out on the
Washington Redskins name issue. Democrats think they finally have Trump
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implicated in the Epstein case, but they don't. There's a
maga media food fight of epic proportions, and I'm just
the person to properly explain it. Elon Musk continues to
say super scary things about AI, British News TV, provides
two very telling moments, and another betting scandal in sports.
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This episode of the podcast may set a record for
the number of topics, So I say that both as
a warning and as an explanation for why I may
not be able to get as in depth on every
topic as I normally do, because otherwise we'd have a
four or five hour podcast. But there's tons to get
to and I want to begin with a couple of
good stories, good news stories. In our last episode, I
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interviewed my very good friend Cyrus and rosta film director
who had a brand new movie out in theaters, distributed
and produced by MGM and Amazon in theaters nationwide last week,
called Sarah's Oil. I told you the movie is fantastic.
I wouldn't tell you otherwise if I didn't really believe that.
And it's not just because my good friend Cyrus directed it.
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But I was concerned about how the movie was going
to be received at the box office, mostly because it
seemed to me as if Amazon MGM were taking essentially
a dive on the movie. They didn't think that it
had much box office potential, and then they were essentially
setting it up for streaming during the Christmas season. But thankfully,
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audiences responded to Sarah's Oil in a big way. The
box office was fifty percent better than expect which is
really remarkable in this day and age because these people
they know how to predict box office almost down to
the dollar, and for a film to exceed expectations by
fifty percent the opening weekend is very significant. The audience
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scores were off the charts, like ninety eight percent. Even
the critics liked it, even Variety gave it a good review.
And now they're actually expanding the number of theaters in
week and number two, so he didn't get a chance
to see Sarah's Oil. It's still going to be in theaters,
I hope for the next several weeks at least, and
a lot of people are loving it, and I know
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Cyrus feel is pretty darn good about it, better than
he did from that perspective a couple weeks before. So
that's good news for Sarah's Oil. And it's good news
that a really good movie can still try to find
traction in the theaters that doesn't have any sort of
franchise attached to it, and isn't a superhero movie, and
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is an original idea that was created by Cyrus and
his wife Betsy, and is really well executed. So congratulations
to my friend Cyrus. And once again, if you haven't
yet seen Sarah's Oil, please go out and do so asap. Now,
there's also apparently good news on the front when it
comes to the government shutdown, the longest in American history,
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appears to officially becoming to an end as we tape
this podcast. It is a schedule to be voted on
in the House Representatives. The US Senate, where the main
stubling locks had existed, have already agreed to end the shutdown.
The House needs to confirm that it is expected that
that will happen. If that does not happen, that will
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be a major, major news story that we'll be talking
about in the next episode of the podcast. But it
appears as if that will indeed happen, And the conventional
wisdom as of right now is that this is a
huge loss for Democrats. The Democrats in the Senate back down.
They caved, and this happened literally just a week after
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a massive off year election victory, and a lot of liberals,
especially in the media, are very upset about this. There's
a lot of self flagellation among Democrats. Oh my gosh,
we just had this great election victory and here we
go and squander our leverage by caving in on the shutdown.
What was this all about? And I get why people
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are perceiving it that way. However, I look at it
kind of almost in one hundred and eighty degrees different direction,
in that maybe the connection between the election victory and
ending the shutdown was not Democrats caving after a great victory.
Maybe they just waited to end the shutdown until after
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they had their great victory, especially in Virginia. From a
strategic standpoint, it's obvious that the shutdown greatly helped them,
especially in Virginia, where it doesn't make any sense since
it was a state election, but you have tons and
tons of federal workers who are directly impacted by the shutdown.
They turned out in huge numbers to vote for Democrats.
Now that the shutdown has served its purpose in Virginia
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and it doesn't appear to be working from a strategic
standpoint and a negotiation perspective, we might as well end
it because people are really starting to hurt. The impact
is really starting to be felt, especially at airports and
in other areas of life. So let's end it. So
that's kind of the way I see the way this
went down. And also, this appears to be yet another
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situation where the can has just been kicked down the
road for a couple months. We theoretically could be going
through this all over again just a few months from now.
So I don't see this as a huge deal in
either direction, either for Democrats or Republicans. I don't think
there's any winner here. I don't know that all that
much was lost, although there were a lot of people
that were greatly inconvenienced, and if you're a Republican in Virginia,
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you got wiped out, at least in part because of
the government shutdown. But I guess it is good news
that that element of this whole equation has at least
temporarily underlined, temporarily been taken care of. Now a lot
of news involving Donald Trump over the last several days,
and I got to premise my remarks by saying, look,
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I have tried so very, very hard to be fair
to Trump. As you well know, I was very conflicted
during the twenty twenty four election. I did not want Kamala.
I worked as a minuscule paid consultant for a pro
Trump super pack because my friend Steve Cortes was running it,
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and I thought that was the better option. I honestly
thought that we were facing basically two choices metaphorically, either
lobotomi with Trump two point zero or castration with Kamala Harris.
I decided maybe lobotomy wouldn't be that bad, And unfortunately,
it appears to me as if lobotomy is everything I feared,
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it would be everything I feared about Trump becoming a
king no one telling him no, having no restrictor plates
because he's not really running at least we hope for
another term in office, and that this could end up
from a conservative perspective, being a disaster and maybe paving
the way for further disasters with a liberal comeback in
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the not too distant future. All that appears to be happening,
maybe even worse than I feared. And this past week
was a really I want to say great, but it's
really terrible example of what I'm referring to. So Trump
announced that this is anti Communism Week, which is already
absurd for a guy who has caused the US government
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to take literal ownership of parts of major US companies.
So right there, he's a hypocrite on the communism issue.
But let's just very quickly review before we get into
the details. So he puts forward this less than half
baked idea of expanding mortgage from thirty years in their potential,
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the longest mortgage you can legally have is thirty years
currently to fifty years on a home mortgage, while praising
FDR as a great president Franklin Dellan and Roosevelt, who
by the standards of the time, was clearly a socialist,
somebody even say a communist. But so Trump proposes via
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social media this fifty year mortgage idea. By the way,
there was also put out there the idea that you
could extend car loans to fifteen years, which would be
actually maybe even a worse idea than fifty year mortgages.
You got Trump saying he's going to give ten thousand
dollars for all air traffic controllers who didn't betray the
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country during the shutdown, although he admits he has no
idea where the money's going to come from. And then
the biggest proposal that Trump came up with is two
thousand dollars for every non rich person. But you can't
give it to rich people who have actually paid the taxes. No, no,
we're going to have a tariff quote unquote dividend of
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two thousand dollars for every non rich person. And he
also tried to intimidate the Supreme Court of the United
States into not invalidating his tariffs at the very same time,
seemingly pretending that public opinion and maga expressing outrage should
have some impact on what the Supreme Court decides in
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the tariff case. He also defended in an interview with
Fox News Channel the idea of sixty not sixty six hundred,
six hundred thousand Chinese communists coming into America as students
and attending American schools because to not do so would
be bad for these woke colleges, specifically historically black colleges,
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which I didn't even understand what that connection was. But this,
this is an extraordinary list. This is all within just
a couple of during Anti Communism Week, just a couple
of days. This is your republican allegedly anti liberal, anti
woke supposedly, I guess, although he's never really called himself
a conservative president of the United States, all doing things
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that if a liberal Democrat, a Kamala Harris, for instance,
had she won the election, if she did any of
these things, the maccabase would be rightfully going bananas and
the maga media would be screaming rightfully bloody murder. So
let's go through these items with a little bit more detail.
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I want to start with this interview that Trump gave
to Laura Ingram from Fox NewsChannel. And Laura Ingram is
as maga as it gets. She's a Trump sickophant, and
yet she actually did a pretty darn good interview, maybe
almost by accident. There are a lot of Trump fans
who think this might be his worst interview as president
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for a whole lot of different reasons. But I'll give
Laura Ingram a little bit of credit where she does
push back against Trump on some of this stuff, specifically
the fifty year mortgage idea. Now I almost feel stupid
even bothering to talk about why the fifty year mortgage
idea is insane, And I will say that there've even
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been some MAGA media members who have pushed back pretty strongly.
Glenn Beck surprised me by all of a sudden turning
into the twenty sixteen version of Glenn Beck and attacking
this idea with great ferocity, And I thought he was
dead on in his analysis of why it's a horrendous idea.
First of all, apparently, according to Politico, this all came
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about because of basically a ten minute meeting that Trump
had where he was handed a poster of FDR and
himself under the label great Presidents, and he shared it
on social media. Again, I cannot even I cannot emphasize
enough how utterly insane it that Trump is comparing himself
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to FDR, as if FDR is the bastion of great presence,
an avowed socialist who completely changed America in that direction.
And it was FDR who first proposed the thirty year mortgage,
which is currently law as far as the limit for
how long a mortgage can go, and now he wants
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to extend it to fifty years. After no discussion, no vetting,
no none of his advisors even knew he was going
to do this. He just went off and did it
on his own. And you would think you would think that, Okay, well,
Trump's a real estate guy, right at least this is
an area where Trump himself has expertise. He can handle this,
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he understands the issues. Well, clearly he does not, because
a fifty year mortgage would be asinine on so many
different levels. I'll just go through it very quickly. If
this ever became law, the first thing that would happen, right,
if it became popular and people got duped into buying
houses with a fifty year mortgage, you would increase the
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demand for houses, which would therefore increase the price for
everybody trying to buy a house, regardless of how long
you wanted your mortgage to be that's number one. So
everyone would be negatively impacted. Everyone trying to get into
the housing market would be negatively impacted. Maybe the bigger
issue is if you decided to get a fifty year mortgage,
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in the end, it would cost almost twice as much
money to finally own your home. And oh, by the way,
and Glenn Beck made a great point here, if you
have a fifty year mortgage, you got to understand what
happens to a house over fifty years. By the end
of the fifty years, not only are you probably dead,
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but it's not really even the same house anymore because
you've had to repair all the nuts of the bar
and the guts of the thing. So you're paying the
bank almost twice as much money for a house that
you essentially rebuilt. So it's utterly ridiculous on its face,
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and you save almost no money in the short run.
You save a few pennies in the short run figuratively,
but in the long run you get completely screwed. But
maybe in my mind, the worst part of this came
out during the Laura Ingram questioning. She pushed back on
him on this issue, where Trump inadvertently reveals he doesn't
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even understand what the law currently is. He appears to
think that it's forty years, and Laura Ingram has to
politely correct him that it's thirty years. And here's what
that exchange sounded like on Fox News Channel.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Housing costs are still out of reach. And another thing
that your administration is trying to tackle many Americans the
average age of first time home buyers and now up
to age forty, which is sad the country you.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And I inherited that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Look, you have to understand, right, But how's you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Get to the Quinn question though? Because your Housing director
has proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends, which
is this fifty year mortgage idea, so a significant MAGA backlash,
calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging
the time it would take for Americans to own a home. Outright,
is that really a good idea?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's not even a big deal. I mean, you know,
you go from forty to fifty years, and whatever is
is you pay, you pay something less from thirty that
some people had a forty and then that now they
have a fifty. All it means is you pay less
per month you paid over a longer period of time.
It's not like a big factor. It might help a
little bit. But the problem was that Biden did this.
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He increased the interest rates, and I have a lousy
fed person who's going to be gone in a few months.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
This could not be a better example of the Emperor's
new clothes. That's a metaphor that many people used with Trump.
I have used it to me. I think every child
ought to learn the story of the Emperor's new Clothes,
where the emperor has no clothes and everyone's afraid to
call him out. But this was really one of those
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moments where in an area where Trump is supposed to
be an expert, he clearly doesn't have a goddamn clue
and he's totally wrong. Now, my guess is this is
never going to happen. I think this is probably going
to get killed. There's been enough MAGA backlash, and look,
I don't think he can do this by executive order.
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You'd have to get the law changed, and so I
just don't see this as happening. I think the intent
was to try to do something to spark home ownership,
because that's clearly a major issue. I get that this
is an issue but this is not the solution in
any way, shape or form. And again, bizarrely, kudo's to
Laura Ingram for at least pushing back on that just
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a bit. I then want to talk about this issue
of the two thousand dollars tariff dividend to non rich people.
I'll talk about class warfare. So I don't know what
the definition of rich would be here in theory. And
this is regarding the whole idea that, well, we've made
all this money on tariffs, and so we're going to
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give some of that money back to the American people,
regardless of whether or not they paid any money because
of the increased tariffs. It's just basically gonna be socialism, communism,
the government paying money. That's just like they did during COVID.
This is right out of the COVID panic playbook where
Trump handed out checks to everybody with his name on it.
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I told you at the time that was going to
create a horrendous precedent, and it did. And now here
we have Trump deciding, well, we allegedly have all this
tariff money. He's greatly exaggerating how much TERRFF money we have.
And oh, by the way, we still have a guard
Gansuan budget deficits. So this idea that somehow, wow, now
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we're in surplus so we can give out dimdend checks
is just flat out completely and totally wrong. Not to mention,
it would be extremely inflationary, which we learned during COVID.
And thankfully I don't think this is going to happen.
But here was Trump at the White House trying to
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pitch his idea of two thousand dollars in a tear
off dimitant for every non rich American.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
We're going to issue a dividend to our middle income
people and lower income people of about two thousand dollars,
and we're going to use the remaining tariffs to lower
our debt. We're going to be lowering our debt, which
is a national security thing. So we were doing a
lot of good work, and the numbers were reported so incorrectly.
The real numbers are trillions of dollars have been taken
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in or have gotten in terms of investment from the tariffs.
And you know, if that were ever reversed, it would
be a disaster. Frankly, it would be a national security
problem for our country. And nobody thinks it's going to
be reversed. I think we had a very good court case.
As you know, it's before the Supreme Court right now.
But if that were ever reversed, you know, people are saying, oh,
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it's a billion dollars. Some people said, oh, it's stupid here. Well,
that obviously we can handle very easily. But this is
trillions of dollars we're talking about in terms of the
tariff income and all the investment income that's come into
our country.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You know, now, not only is this really bad economics
because of the inflation influtionary element of it, and because
of the fact that it increases the depthit dramatically, iyban
two thousand dollars for every non rich person in America.
It's just a staggering amount of money that we clearly
do not have. But there's also the element of this
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coming right on the heels of the teriff issue coming
before the US Supreme Court, and it was very clear
that at least two of the so called conservative justice
Roberts and Barrett, we're having none of the Trump lawyer's
arguments on this and appear to be ready to invalidate
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Trump's tariffs something he's simultaneously. This is just so crazy.
In any other administration, this would be all anyone would
be talking about. But with Trump, it's just par for
the course. He's simultaneously talking about giving away two thousand
dollars a tariff money while also posting on social media
that it would be a catastrophe for the US Supreme
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Court to invalidate the terriffs because the money would have
to be paid back in some way, shape or form.
And so you never know. Is Trump just this schizophrenic,
is he this incompetent? You know, the old argument over
whether he's playing chess or whether he's playing shoots and ladders.
You never know with Trump. But I do think it's
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possible if we try to give Trump some credit here,
which I always attempt to do, even sometimes giving him
more credit than he deserves, If you try to give
him some credit strategically, it seems as if he might
be trying to set up a situation where the US
Supreme Court prevents the American public from getting two thousand
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dollars a piece. That would be logical, at least from
Trump's perspective. That Trump is freaked out that the US
Supreme Court may rule against him here, and he delusionally
thinks that this is going to matter to Roberts or Barrett,
that somehow, if he makes the argument that we're going
to head for an economic catastrophe if the tariffs are invalidated,
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and oh, by the way, you're going to prevent every
non rich American from getting two thousand dollars, that maybe,
just maybe that will impact Roberts and Barrett in their
decision as to how to rule on the tariff case.
In Trump's mind, I guess that makes sense. I don't
see how that's going to have any impact at all
on Roberts or Barrett. I could be wrong about that,
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but I just don't see the logic in that. But
if you're Trump, I guess I can see. Because Trump
thinks that this is the way everybody else acts. Trump
thinks he has no principles, So I guess he presumes
Roberts and Barrett have no principles and don't give it
damn about what their interpretation of the law is. That
they're just going to be intimidated either by public pressure
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or this idea that they're going to send the nation
into economic catastrophe or they're going to prevent non rich
Americans from getting two thousand dollars. I don't know what
it is, but that's the best explanation I could come
up with for this incredible dichotomy between Trump at the
one on the one hand, talking about how this is
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going to be a disaster from the terrorist perspective, but
also proposing that he's going to give away all this
tear off money which may not even exist to every
non rich American. And again, the bigger picture is that
this is as communistic as a gas. This is the
government giving people money we don't have simp I guess
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to buy public opinion because Trump's approval ratings suck. The
Republicans just got crushed in the off year election. We're
going to have a midterm election and now just less
than the year, and Trump's got to do something to
turn the economy around, at least the perception of the
economy around. And unfortunately, in Trump's world, since he's not
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a conservative and he's acting like a communist, the best
and most efficient way to do that is just to
pay people, even with money we don't have. And then
there's the issue of speaking of communism, Trump being supportive
of six hundred thousand Chinese students being allowed to come
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into America to attend American universities, based upon the idea
that if we don't do that, American universities, some of
these elite, woke schools will be in big trouble economically.
This seemingly horrified Laura Ingram in her interview with Trump.
And here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of
thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have
about three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese. One point during
COVID you were going to, you know, push to get.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Them out, but that was pulled back.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You've said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students
could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that
a pro maga position when so many American kids want
to go to school and there are places not for them,
and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Sure, never said about China, but we do have a
lot of people coming in from China. We always have
China and other countries. We also have a massive system
of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut
that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you
would have half the colleges in the United States school
out of business. Oh well, I think that's a big deal, are.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They You would have the the United.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
States, Yeah, but you would have as you know, historically
black colleges and universities would all be out of business.
That you would have a system of colleges and universities.
But I think it's good to have. I actually think
it's good to have outside countries. Look, I want to
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be able to get along with the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Word, not the French.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
They're the Chinese. They spy on us, they steal our
intellectual problem.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Where do you think the French are better?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Really, I'll tell you, I'm not so sure. We've had
a lot of problems with the French where we get
taxed very unfairly on our technology with you know, they
put twenty five percent taxes on American products. Look, assuming
everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am.
But we take in trillions of dollars from students. You know,
the students pay more than double when they come in
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from most foreign countries. I want to see our school
system thrive, but at the same time, I want to
be I know you and I disagree. We're never going
to agree on But that's okay. And it's not that
I want them, but I viewed.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
As a business.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We have millions and millions of people. Also, I want
to get along with countries if possible. You know, people
are shocked. Remember Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Said will be in a war.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I stopped eight wars in the last nine months. I
don't want to be in worse.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If I am in a war, We're going.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
To win the thing fast and it'll be violent. But
I don't want to be in worse. But one thing,
you don't want to cut half of the people, half
of the students from all over the world that are
coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And don't forget Mega was my idea. Maga was nobody
else's idea. I know what Mega wants better than anybody else,
and Maga wants to see our country thrive.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Now it's hard to dessert what the most telling moment
of that clip was. First of all, there's the idea. Hey, look,
I'm Maga. I'm the one who determines what's maga and
what's not. In other words, I'm the king buzz off
that was rather telling. But it's just remarkable how this,
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you know, this warrior against wokeism allegedly who has talked
a really good game when it comes to attacking the
woke universities and the elite colleges, that somehow that would
be problematic. See Laura Ingram says, wait a minute, so
what so what if these elite schools end up being
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in economic trouble? I mean, first of all, most of
these elite schools have endowments that are absolutely acidine. I mean,
they're not even really schools anymore. They're hedge funds with
classrooms and football stadiums. That's basically all they are. And
so yeah, it might put a strain on them economically,
(27:44):
But so what. I'm one hundred percent with Laura Ingram,
especially if you really believe, as I do, that they
as an institution are detrimental to America. And I believe most,
if not all, elite academic institutions are currently And so
this was really an incredibly telling moment. I don't know
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what's motivating Trump here, I really don't it. I mean, again,
if this was a democratic president making this exact same argument,
MAGA would be rightfully having a fit. But because it's
Trump and he's the one who's in charge. He's the
godlike figure, he's the cult leader, and he says, look,
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I decide what's mecca. And it doesn't matter that Laura
Ingram is sitting there horrified at a huge Trump supporter
from Fox Newschelle. You would think she would have some
street cred on this. By the way, similar to this,
I'm not gonna play the clip, but Trump defended expansion
of the visa program because he said that American workers
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aren't good enough. We need foreign workers. By the way,
he even used the word you, not us when referencing
to Laura Ingram the issue of American workers. You don't
have those kind of good workers, basically making it sound
like America's a shithole country with a bunch of morons,
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which I kind of understand where he's coming groups, especially
given the nature of his cult like base. But I digress.
I mean, this is just unbelievable. This is an incredible
betrayal of the MAGA base and alleged MAGA principles, whatever
the hell they are. And from the standpoint of this
fight against wokeism and elite academic institutions, the most confusing
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part about this to me is that, and I have
been supportive of Trump on this, some of the things
Trump's doing by threatening to withhold federal funding is having
an impact. He seemingly has elite academia on the run.
There was remarkable evidence of that this past weekend on
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sixty Minutes when they interviewed a Harvard professor by the
name was Stephen Pinker, who fully acknowledged on sixty Minutes
he doesn't get more mainstream media than that that Harvard
had gone too far to the left and had basically
censored right wing voices, and that they needed more conservative
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perspectives for academic balance. And here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Harvard and the federal government have been in settlement talks
for months, and in a statement, the Department of Education
told us the Trump administration is actively working toward a
deal with Harvard that holds them accountable for egregious civil
rights violations and discrimination on campus, while restoring generous taxpayer
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dollar support to the institution. Harvard, in turn says it's
working to improve existing programs promoting ideological diversity.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Harvard has not done enough to ensure a wide range
of opinions being represented on campus.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Harvard psychology professor Stephen Pinker has been a member of
the faculty for twenty two years and has been outspoken
about what he says is liberal bias on campus. In
your estimation, where has Harvard gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I think there have been too many incidents in which
someone has expressed a controversial opinion and has been shamed
or canceled.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
President Trump has described Harvard as a liberal mess, that
it has been hiring almost all woke, radical left idiots
and bird breed. Yes, the language is what is a
bit harsh, But does he have a point here?
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Not there? No, I do not agree with that. I
think there's a grain of truth in that. I think
it's the grain of truth. I think there should be
more voices on the right at Harvard. I don't want
Donald Trump to decide who those people are going to
be or how many we should have.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
You do have the president, and you have lots of
supporters of the President who say we don't like what.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
They're doing there at Harvard.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So why should my text dollars go to support its research?
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Do you want Alzheimer's to be cured? Do you want
to have cancer treatments for kids? Do you want treatments
for people with paralysis?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So I really baffled by why Trump seems to be
waving the white flag here or not tightening the screws
further when it comes to this issue of six hundred
thousand Chinese communists coming into elite American institutions. There's got
to be something that I don't know about or that
we don't know about that is motivating Trump here because
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he's clearly going to get blowback from his magabase and
as I said, he already did from Laura Ingram, and
he's got he's winning this battle. He's winning this battle. Maybe,
as I try to figure out, okay, maybe this is
all part of a negotiation that he's having with these
schools that he's got to give in on the six
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hundred thousand Chinese students, but maybe he'll get something else
in return. I'm never confident that he's going to actually
pull off the deal like he claims that he is.
You know, the guy wrote the book The Art of
the Deal has never done a whold a lot of
really great deals in my opinion. But maybe if I
give him the benefit of doubt that this is all
part of a plan. But to me, it feels like
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he's got the ball on the five yard line and
he's punted. That's what it feels like when it comes
to the battle against woke academia. But maybe the moment
and I realize I'm in a very very very small
minority here, But maybe the moment that infuriated me the
most over the past week regarding Donald Trump happened when
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he attended an NFL football game in Washington, DC. It's
actually outside Washington, DC. It was a Washington Commander's game.
He was there as a part I guess of Veterans
Day weekend. He was administering an oath to new members
of the military.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
By the way, he got profoundly, profoundly booed, which is
not a big surprise given the fact that he was
a game in the Washington DC area, where he is
extremely unpopular, especially with the government.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Shutdown going on. But I forget about the booing. The
part that really legitimately infuriated me was he was invited
into the booth to be part of the Fox broadcast
of the Washington Commander's game. Now you probably recall that
on multiple occasions we have talked on this podcast about
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how Trump has unique leverage when it comes to the
Washington Commander's football team because they want to move their
stadium from outside Washington, d C. To back into Washington,
d C on the side of the old RFK Stadium,
which happens to be in part on federal land. So
Trump has leverage over the washingt Commanders, and I had
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been urging for a long time him to try to
use this leverage to get the Commanders to restore their
nickname to what it ought to be, what God intended,
which is the Washington Redskins, never thinking that that was
really going to go anywhere, because I didn't think that Trump,
even though some members of the conservative media had asked
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him about this. We played the clips on this podcast,
it didn't seem like Trump got it. That he was
philosophically not in favor of the Commanders, but he didn't
really believe in the whole Redskins thing, and he hadn't
put all the pieces together in his tiny little mind.
And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he
made a couple of social media posts where he made
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a big deal out of the Redskins issue and seemed
to finally get it and seemed to indicate that he
was going to do what it took to try to
get the Washington Commanders to change their name back to
the Washington Redskins. Now, I said at the time, I
did not believe that Trump would have the four to
two dude to take this all the way into the
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end zone. I think I said it was a thirty
percent chance that he would actually take this fight all
the way. I even had a disagreement with my former
co host on this podcast, Liz Abebe, who now works
for the Trump administration fairly closely to Trump has I
don't know if she has interaction with him, but certainly
she has an interaction with a lot of top people,
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and she was very confident, now living in Washington, DC,
that Trump was going to succeed, that the Redskins thing
was a done deal. I think was basically she told me,
and I told her she was wrong, that this was
never going to happen, that Trump wouldn't follow it all
the way through. And so since that time, we've heard
nothing about the Redskins name. But now we have a
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very unique situation. We have Trump being the first president
to attend an NFL football game since nineteen seventy eight,
first time maybe ever, because I don't think that Jimmy
Carter when he was president nineteen six. I could be
wrong about this, but I have no recollection of him
actually being in the booth during that game. So essentially,
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for the first time in modern history, we have a
US president in the booth for eight minutes live during
not just an NFL football game. By the way, if
he was at any NFL football game, it would be
relevant to bring up the Redskins game. But he's at
a Washington Commander's football game, and I'm like, Okay, is
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he even going to bring this up? Because this is
the perfect time. Not only did Trump not bring this up,
he clearly resisted multiple opportunities where it would have been
completely and totally not just appropriate, but in my opinion,
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imperative that he brings up the Redskins name. The Fox
play by play announcer incorrectly referenced the Commanders as having
won multiple Super Bowls in their Washington history. Well that's
not true. The Commanders have never won anything close to
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a Super Bowl. It was the Redskins that won a
super multiple Super Bowls, and Trump said nothing. Then Trump
references past great red skin coaches, specifically George Allen and
Joe Gibbs, without ever even uttering the word redskins. He
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didn't have to bring up the red skin issue, although
I certainly would have with one thousand percent certainty, But
Trump doesn't even It seems like he was going out
of his way not to bring up the red skin issue.
Fox was almost inviting him to bring up the red
skin issue, and Trump didn't do it at all. In fact,
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Trump was so oblivious to everything that was going on.
The Color analyst and I'm actually surprised that this didn't
get from from what I can tell, more attention online.
But the Fox analyst, not once but twice, basically mocked
Trump during this eight minute interview in the booth by
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using the six' seven. Meme, now if you don't know
what six', seven is you clearly don't have young KIDS like.
I do but the biggest thing in middle schools this,
entire year and, IT'S huge, i mean it might be
the biggest meme of. All time is this idea of
whatever the words or the numbers six seven, get used everyone.
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Goes bananas and on two occasions the analyst used six'
seven clearly, referencing The meme and trump had no idea
what he. Was talking about trump has to be the
Last media consuming american who has no idea whatsoever what. Six.
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Seven is now no one knows, what it means but
most people at least know that. It's a thing trump
didn't know that. It's A thing and i didn't see
as Much mockery of trump OVER that as I expected
once i, Saw the clip but that paled in comparison
to Me to what trump did not Do. Regarding the,
Redskins to me trump. Completely wimped out trump. Is a
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fraud trump at his core is. A fucking pussy that's
what pisces me off. More than anything he pretends to
be this great warrior against wokeism, and political correctness and
you know that's in all of, his is, persona the
imagery even, the you know the, social media, posts c
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megs and it's. All a facade it's. All a fraud.
He's a wimp. He wimped out he did. Have the
balls that. Was the moment and, BY the way i
should be POINTING out that espn had reported just a
few days before This appearance that trump has Said he
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wanted washington to name the. Stadium after. Him, after him
now it's impossible to know the truthfulness. OF that story espn.
Had multiple sources it Certainly. Sounds like trump there's been
no real. Confirmation of that but if, that is true
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now all, of a sudden we have an explanation in
Theory for why trump so completely whimped out on. The
redskin issue is he playing ball Because he thinks washington
may name the. Stadium after him there's no chance they're,
gonna do that but it Only matters that trump thinks.
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That they might And so is trump playing ball for?
His own purposes is he selling out the red skin issue,
because he thinks or once or Dreams that a washington
football stadium is gonna Be Named. FOR donald trump i
just don't think there's any way. That's GONNA happen the
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nfl has made it very clear for a long time
ago they Have Disdained. For donald trump that's why he
was INVOLVED. IN the, usfl i mean there's a long
Standing feud between TRUMP, and the nfl and there's No, WAY,
in washington dc the commanders are gonna name their stadium
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for a guy who's going to be out of office
in a, couple of years who the vast majority of
the residents of their city and their fan base hates that's.
Not gonna Happen but does trump really think, That that's
possible and is that why he's Completely Abandoned the. RED
skin issue. I don't know my gut tells me it's
actually just because, he's a pussy because he had his
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moment and. He blew it there will never be. A
greater moment, by the way even if you could never
actually Win on the redskins name issue from, a principal
standpoint if you really believe in it and you really
are a. Warrior against wokeism when the play by play
announcer Says that the commanders have a great history and
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Have Won, several super, bowls, you go. No they haven't
they haven't Won. Any Super Bowls the washington Redskins Won.
Multiple Super bowls joe Gibbs Won. Multiple Super bowls george
allen Went To a super Bowl as, a redskin Coach Just.
LIKE joe, GIBBS i, mean i mean anybody would Say
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that if and, by the way this. IS a guy.
I love this this is my favorite part of what
was an incredibly infuriating moment FOR me is i think
you can already tell about this, On SOCIAL media and
I had many trump fans seemingly seriously Tell me that
trump was actually using good decorum and that this was
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not the appropriate time in place for him to bring. Up,
the issue Yes Because if donald trump is, about nothing
else he's about decorum and picking the appropriate time in
place to say things and not doing anything that might,
disrupt you know generally. Accepted good behavior that's Really what's
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All trump and trump. Is all, about, Come on people
his entire persona, is about, being you know the bull in,
the china shop and here the. Bull was castrated the
bull has no. Balls at all the bull. Is a
pussy the bull's. Not A bull donald trump is a complete.
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And total fraud we've, always known this but when you see,
it in action and you see it actually ending, the
last chance this golden opportunity to reverse this Horrendous moment
in american history where somehow we all DECIDED, with the
nfl decided to screw over one of, their great franchises,
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not to mention piss Off Millions of native americans who
actually Liked the nickname redskins for. NO purpose, WHATSOEVER i
mean i don't even know who. They were placating nobody
was actually pleased except, for you know white female liberals
who aren't even football fans. To begin with that we
got rid of The redskins and trump goes down without. Even,
(45:38):
a fight again Part of why i'm making a big
deal about this is he. Posted about it trump did.
On multiple occasions and when it came time to stand,
up and, actually you know take the FIGHT, to the
nfl take The fight the fox in, A perfect opportunity
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trump didn't even, come up tiny he. Didn't even exist
he revealed himself as a complete fraud. And a Pussy
That's who. Donald TRUMP is and i realized to some
people that why is this so big a? Deal to?
YOU to me i do think the redskin. ISSUE matters
symbolically i think it's way more significant than. Most people
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understand but it's Mostly about who, trump really is because
if he's wimping, out on this what else is he?
Wimping out on in, very dramatic ways he IS not,
A pc WARRIOR he's. A pc wossy and this is,
HAVING an, impact i, think in. Many many ways and
we've already seen it this week in many Other topics
(46:43):
that i've already gotten into details on, NOW as otherways
i still try to Be, fair to TRUMP even though
i have disdain for him in a very, very deep
way especially this week for All the reasons, i've Already
stated and I'm gonna defend trump one more time when
it comes to a story that exploded just before we
(47:06):
started to tape this episode, of the podcast and That
is that, democrats now think or at least are pretending
That they have trump Implicated In the jeffrey epstein scandal
because They have released democrats have three Different Emails involving jeffrey,
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epstein that appear at least in their minds To Implicate
somehow Donald trump. In, epstein's, crimes now look my view
on this has. Been very clear. Epstein was guilty epstein killed.
Himself in prison the story has gotten completely out of
control because of a perfect. STORM of circumstances i don't
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believe there was any massive. Sex trafficking organization i'm not
even sure, That His, companion glene maxwell who's in, a
federal prison. WAS actually guilty i know she didn't get.
A fair Trial i know prince Formerly Known as prince
andrew Now just regular andrew is, almost certainly innocent which
is why he was never. Charged with anything the story
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has gotten completely out of control For reasons that i've
talked about many many times, in the Past and so
democrats understand that this is an. Extremely combustible environment they
know anything new or quote unquote new With regard to
epstein They can Connect epstein to trump is going to
get massive amounts of attention, and media coverage which IS
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partially why I have said i Don't think, the epstein
files to whatever, extent they exist should even ever be
made public because people are going to misinterpret. What's in
there it's, nuclear powered now and people that are totally
innocent are going to have. Their lives destroyed well we
saw evidence of. That this morning when these three emails
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are over several years, period of time we're released, with
no context no chain Whatsoever that are epstein. In an
exchange one of the Exchanges Is, with michael wolfe who
is an ALLEGED journalist that i have never had. ANY
trust For I think michael wolfe is is as sketchy
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as it gets when it comes to a, so called journalist,
A book author he's written A, lot about, TRUMP you,
know i mean the, media loves him especially when He.
Goes after trump, but TO me when i looked, at
these emails maybe the most significant thing is that we
now Have Proved that michael wolfe Is Essentially advising jeffrey
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epstein back in twenty fifteen about How To, manipulate donald
trump because in twenty fifteen he was running For president
and epstein was facing these allegations, and you know you
might Be able to, i'm paraphrasing here you might be
able to manipulate Your relationship with trump if he gets
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elected to help. You, out here now that's completely and
totally inappropriate for. An alleged journalist this is right Out
Of the, sarah gannam playbook maybe even worse in some
Ways From The Penn State Joe paternal, jerry sedusky scandal
where the woman Who Got the pulitzer prize is essentially
recruiting accusers and accusers' parents during a critical moment. In
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THAT investigation, But i digress michael wolf, Is a scumbag
AND so when i look at this from, a journalistic
perspective that's the real headline from, this these, email these
emails that got Released by the Democrats in The. House
of representatives but With regard To, Epstein, And trump yeah Epstein,
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refers to trump and He refers to trump in a rather.
Vague WAY away and i even got manipulated by the
way that the emails GOT released because i woke up
at six point thirty, in THE morning like, I normally Do,
i CHECK twitter and i See that the democrats have,
(51:13):
released These emails and i'm, reading the emails and two
Of them have epstein seemingly use the word victim. In capital,
letters i'm like how does that make? Any goddamn Sense
why would epstein be using the word victim? In capital
letters AND stupidly because i didn't look at, it carefully
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enough and it's. Not made clear it's definitely. Not MADE
clear and i think this is. Done on purpose by
The way the democrats. Release the email epstein does not
use the word victim in capital. Letters or otherwise he,
uses somebody's name but we don't know, that person's name
and so they redacted that person's name and they put
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in the word victim. In, capital letters well we have
no idea. What that means on what basis are they using,
the word victim who is it and why is? That being,
Redacted you know i've talked about this, many many times
where this whole idea that we must protect the identity
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of accusers even when they are, adults in very very
high profile and serious situations where people's freedoms are on
the line or the reputations, on the line is. Just,
totally absurd okay you can't evaluate the nature of an
allegation or, in this case the context of an email
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Without knowing who. Epstein's referring to so we're just supposed
To trust the democrats that this person is a quote
Unquote victim when epstein never even. WENT to, trial i
mean who knows what who? That PERSON is and i
will acknowledge that at least one of the emails is
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Odd in that Epstein, refers to trump although you could
argue that he's actually making The case that trump was
trying to get him to, knock it off because He
says that Trump Essentially told glene maxwell. To stop it
so in, a weird way That's Exculpatory. For donald trump
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i've Never Believed that donald trump had anything to do
with the Crimes Committed. By jeffrey epstein none of the
Accusers in the epstein case have ever said anything but
Positive Things. About Donald Trump, even virginia jeoffrey who just
killed herself and then, released this book even though she
claims to have been trafficked Out Of, mar a lago
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she had very nice things To Say about donald trump,
in her book which never made any. Sense to me
but THAT'S the. Fact, i mean so none of these
accusers have ever been on the record saying Anything Negative.
About donald, trump in fact they've only. Said positive things
so here we have these VAGUE emails where i don't
Even understand what. EPSTEIN is saying i acknowledge. That they
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were they are certainly weird enough, to warrant questioning Questioning,
maybe of Trump. Ideally of epstein, But guess what. Epstein
is dead, SO you know i go through this, every
single time Not, just with epstein but other cases similar
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and especially in situations. Where They're Suicide and virginia geoffrey
is a really good example of this with. Their new book,
that's you know the media has been touting as if,
it's the gospel which. Is completely ridiculous when, someone is
dead that means they. Can't, be questioned obviously there used
to be a time when the news, media understood this
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and the, attitude, was basically, well you, know it sucks
but we can't question this, person about this therefore we
can't give it. Very much credibility but that. Doesn't exist, anymore,
in fact weirdly the dead person all of a sudden.
Gets INFINITE credibility and i love this part of, this
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whole story where the obviously incredibly Duplicitous And, corrupt jeffrey
epstein all, of a sudden his vague emails are taken,
as highly credible like we can interpret them as being
obviously truthful his private emails where he's being Advised To
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manipulate donald trump By Alleged. Journalist MICHAEL wolff so i Don't,
understand how epstein who's dead and obviously a corrupt individual,
at his core can be taken seriously. As a source
the emails, are very vague the word victim being put
in there is obviously an attempt that was, successful ON
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me as i was groggy, in the morning to pretend
that the person being referred To is, an epstein victim
as if, the implication, there of course and what the
reader must Believe is that trump knew that the person,
being referred to this anonymous person whose, name Is redacted
that trump knew that they were a quote Unquote, victim
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of epstein which. Is obviously absurd that is really the
biggest weakness in this email release is the use of
the word victim. In a redaction we have No idea
who epstein literally, is referring to or what that might
mean With regard to trump having spent time, with this
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Person or what epstein. Is even meaning but forget about
the details. FOR a second i go back to the
core Of the, entire epstein issue which has been so
incredibly frustrated to me because it's so obvious, from my
perspective and the vast majority of the public and even
the media just really do. Not understand this this is
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where The topic of epstein's suicide is. So incredibly important
let's pretend that the democratic interpretation of these emails, is
EXACTLY correct which i don't believe it, Is at all
but let's just pretend for sake of argument that. It's
completely correct, there's a massive massive problem with the logic
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because here you have, In twenty Fifteen Epstein and michael
wolfe essentially for lack of, a better term conspiring to
Figure out how trump might Be. Helpful to epstein that's
my paraphrase of probably the key email of the three
that got Released by the Democrats. In The, house all
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right in, a weird way if you, think this through
this Actually, further exonerates trump unless unless You believe that
epstein was murdered in. A federal prison because if you
Don't believe that epstein was murdered in, a federal Prison Against, What, Bill,
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Barr Cash, mattel Dan bongino and pambondi, have all said and,
not to mention four Years of THE biden do oj
never said a Damn thing about so you've, Got You
know bill barr is a huge part of This Equation
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because bill Barr. Is, anti trump now So You've, Got,
Bill Barr, Pambondy Dan, bongino cash mattel And THE entire
biden doj Effectively saying yep. Epstein killed himself so you
have to believe, all those people for some. Reason aren't
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lying and you also don't, have A suspect which i've
said a million times is impossible in this situation where
you would know to within a couple of people who
could have. Possibly done this it's, a federal prison you
know where everybody is. At all times you can't just
sneak into a federal prison that. You know there if this,
had actually happened there would be a very very very
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clear suspect that it would be an. Incredibly easy. Crime,
as All so if epstein did, not kill himself then
you have an argument, because, all Right well obviously, epstein
was silence but there's no, evidence Of that and i've just,
told you why there's no reason. To believe That but
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if epstein, did kill himself it destroys the email Between,
he and wolf because if the email Between him and
wolf is to be Understood as somehow epstein having Some,
dirt on trump he never would have killed himself in. A.
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Federal prison people it's it's. Either or now in order
To believe that trump is Somehow implicated by, epstein in
this you must believe in one of the most massive
nonsensical conspiracies. Of all time you must believe he was,
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killed in prison because if, he killed himself it totally
invalidates the entire Theory because if epstein really Has dirt
On trump and trump is president and he's in a
federal prison. Facing federal charges there's no chance in the
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world he's. Gonna kill himself he's a super rich guy
with all, sorts of connections and he's got blackmail material
on the President Of. The united states why would. He
kill himself. That's completely absurd he would never do that
because he would have, not only hope he would have
(01:00:55):
An expectation that trump might help him. Out of this
it might only take a wink wink and a nod
nod or the very at the, worst case scenario all
he's got, to do, is you know announce he's going
to do an interview with some media outlet which would
have been happy to do an. Interview with him and
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there's all sorts Of things that epstein could have Done
to alert trump that he was about to give up The,
goods On trump and trump, would have said, who whoa whoa.
Whoa whoa whoa hold, on a second because he's President Of,
the united states it still us to run for re election,
At that point so that theory doesn't even make it
out of. A batter's box so you must you Must
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believe that epstein WAS murdered because i, get you know if,
that was true there would be Some logic To trump
wanting epstein dead right if he had dirt on him
somehow implicating him in a. SEX trafficking scandal. I get
it i don't believe that it's, what would happen but at,
LEAST in theory i understand that that. Makes some Sense
(01:02:00):
but as i've said, a zillion times there's no, evidence
for it and there's a massive amount of a lack
of evidence that proves, it didn't happen including the PART
that even i, don't mention enough which Is THAT the
biden doj said nothing about this, for four years even
when they Were running against. Trump for reelection how? Is
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that possible. It's completely RIDICULOUS so the bidendj was sitting
On Evidence that donald trump engaged in Illegal Activity with
jeffrey epstein in a massive, sex trafficking ring and they
just decided never to leak that during, their four Years
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even when Trump got the, republican presidential nomination they indicted
them on everything, they possibly could but they just never
decided to Go down. The epstein, bat, come on people.
Use your brains and so the bottom line to me
of those emails is that this is yet another example
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where the media is going to take them. Out OF
context and i have no doubt that this will actually
further the Asenine theory that epstein was murdered in a
federal president because that's what you. Have, to believe now
that's the only way that miss. Makes ANY sense and
i said that the emails Actually weirdly. Exonerate, trump further
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sure if you, use your, brain They Do because michael
wolfe is planting The seeds in epstein's brain in twenty
Fifteen that, If trump wins trump might be able to
be manipulated. To help you and yet we're supposed To
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believe that epstein with that, obviously you know planted in
His Brain by michael wolfe allegedly Having Dirt, on donald
trump who. Wins The presidency, and epstein decides, YOU know
what i. Haven't no hope i'm gonna kill myself in
a brutal fashion in a federal prison because it's. Gonna
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be ugly you can't cleanly kill yourself in. A federal
prison and that's What. Happened with epstein how does that make?
Any goddamn. Sense it doesn't but this is just gonna
be another example where everybody buys. Into a myth this
is gonna further, the fairy tale the dark fairy tale of.
This entire CASE and, here i am, in my opinion
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probably doing a better Job Of, defending DONALD trump, whom
i hate with probably a GREATER passion than i, ever
had previously than Anybody in the magamedia. Is gonna Do
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Welcome to episode two hundred and sixty seven of the
Death of Journalism podcast. My name is John Zigler. I'm
your host on today's show. President Trump declares this to
be anti Communism Week and proceeds to act pretty much
like a communist. He also completely whims out on the
Washington Redskins name issue. Democrats think they finally have Trump
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implicated in the Epstein case, but they don't. There's a
maga media food fight of epic proportions, and I'm just
the person to properly explain it. Elon Musk continues to
say super scary things about AI, British News TV, provides
two very telling moments, and another betting scandal in sports.
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This episode of the podcast may set a record for
the number of topics, So I say that both as
a warning and as an explanation for why I may
not be able to get as in depth on every
topic as I normally do, because otherwise we'd have a
four or five hour podcast. But there's tons to get
to and I want to begin with a couple of
good stories, good news stories. In our last episode, I
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interviewed my very good friend Cyrus and rosta film director
who had a brand new movie out in theaters, distributed
and produced by MGM and Amazon in theaters nationwide last week,
called Sarah's Oil. I told you the movie is fantastic.
I wouldn't tell you otherwise if I didn't really believe that.
And it's not just because my good friend Cyrus directed it.
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But I was concerned about how the movie was going
to be received at the box office, mostly because it
seemed to me as if Amazon MGM were taking essentially
a dive on the movie. They didn't think that it
had much box office potential, and then they were essentially
setting it up for streaming during the Christmas season. But thankfully,
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audiences responded to Sarah's Oil in a big way. The
box office was fifty percent better than expect which is
really remarkable in this day and age because these people
they know how to predict box office almost down to
the dollar, and for a film to exceed expectations by
fifty percent the opening weekend is very significant. The audience
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scores were off the charts, like ninety eight percent. Even
the critics liked it, even Variety gave it a good review.
And now they're actually expanding the number of theaters in
week and number two, so he didn't get a chance
to see Sarah's Oil. It's still going to be in theaters,
I hope for the next several weeks at least, and
a lot of people are loving it, and I know
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Cyrus feel is pretty darn good about it, better than
he did from that perspective a couple weeks before. So
that's good news for Sarah's Oil. And it's good news
that a really good movie can still try to find
traction in the theaters that doesn't have any sort of
franchise attached to it, and isn't a superhero movie, and
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is an original idea that was created by Cyrus and
his wife Betsy, and is really well executed. So congratulations
to my friend Cyrus. And once again, if you haven't
yet seen Sarah's Oil, please go out and do so asap. Now,
there's also apparently good news on the front when it
comes to the government shutdown, the longest in American history,
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appears to officially becoming to an end as we tape
this podcast. It is a schedule to be voted on
in the House Representatives. The US Senate, where the main
stubling locks had existed, have already agreed to end the shutdown.
The House needs to confirm that it is expected that
that will happen. If that does not happen, that will
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be a major, major news story that we'll be talking
about in the next episode of the podcast. But it
appears as if that will indeed happen, And the conventional
wisdom as of right now is that this is a
huge loss for Democrats. The Democrats in the Senate back down.
They caved, and this happened literally just a week after
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a massive off year election victory, and a lot of liberals,
especially in the media, are very upset about this. There's
a lot of self flagellation among Democrats. Oh my gosh,
we just had this great election victory and here we
go and squander our leverage by caving in on the shutdown.
What was this all about? And I get why people
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are perceiving it that way. However, I look at it
kind of almost in one hundred and eighty degrees different direction,
in that maybe the connection between the election victory and
ending the shutdown was not Democrats caving after a great victory.
Maybe they just waited to end the shutdown until after
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they had their great victory, especially in Virginia. From a
strategic standpoint, it's obvious that the shutdown greatly helped them,
especially in Virginia, where it doesn't make any sense since
it was a state election, but you have tons and
tons of federal workers who are directly impacted by the shutdown.
They turned out in huge numbers to vote for Democrats.
Now that the shutdown has served its purpose in Virginia
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and it doesn't appear to be working from a strategic
standpoint and a negotiation perspective, we might as well end
it because people are really starting to hurt. The impact
is really starting to be felt, especially at airports and
in other areas of life. So let's end it. So
that's kind of the way I see the way this
went down. And also, this appears to be yet another
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situation where the can has just been kicked down the
road for a couple months. We theoretically could be going
through this all over again just a few months from now.
So I don't see this as a huge deal in
either direction, either for Democrats or Republicans. I don't think
there's any winner here. I don't know that all that
much was lost, although there were a lot of people
that were greatly inconvenienced, and if you're a Republican in Virginia,
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you got wiped out, at least in part because of
the government shutdown. But I guess it is good news
that that element of this whole equation has at least
temporarily underlined, temporarily been taken care of. Now a lot
of news involving Donald Trump over the last several days,
and I got to premise my remarks by saying, look,
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I have tried so very, very hard to be fair
to Trump. As you well know, I was very conflicted
during the twenty twenty four election. I did not want Kamala.
I worked as a minuscule paid consultant for a pro
Trump super pack because my friend Steve Cortes was running it,
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and I thought that was the better option. I honestly
thought that we were facing basically two choices metaphorically, either
lobotomi with Trump two point zero or castration with Kamala Harris.
I decided maybe lobotomy wouldn't be that bad, And unfortunately,
it appears to me as if lobotomy is everything I feared,
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it would be everything I feared about Trump becoming a
king no one telling him no, having no restrictor plates
because he's not really running at least we hope for
another term in office, and that this could end up
from a conservative perspective, being a disaster and maybe paving
the way for further disasters with a liberal comeback in
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the not too distant future. All that appears to be happening,
maybe even worse than I feared. And this past week
was a really I want to say great, but it's
really terrible example of what I'm referring to. So Trump
announced that this is anti Communism Week, which is already
absurd for a guy who has caused the US government
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to take literal ownership of parts of major US companies.
So right there, he's a hypocrite on the communism issue.
But let's just very quickly review before we get into
the details. So he puts forward this less than half
baked idea of expanding mortgage from thirty years in their potential,
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the longest mortgage you can legally have is thirty years
currently to fifty years on a home mortgage, while praising
FDR as a great president Franklin Dellan and Roosevelt, who
by the standards of the time, was clearly a socialist,
somebody even say a communist. But so Trump proposes via
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social media this fifty year mortgage idea. By the way,
there was also put out there the idea that you
could extend car loans to fifteen years, which would be
actually maybe even a worse idea than fifty year mortgages.
You got Trump saying he's going to give ten thousand
dollars for all air traffic controllers who didn't betray the
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country during the shutdown, although he admits he has no
idea where the money's going to come from. And then
the biggest proposal that Trump came up with is two
thousand dollars for every non rich person. But you can't
give it to rich people who have actually paid the taxes. No, no,
we're going to have a tariff quote unquote dividend of
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two thousand dollars for every non rich person. And he
also tried to intimidate the Supreme Court of the United
States into not invalidating his tariffs at the very same time,
seemingly pretending that public opinion and maga expressing outrage should
have some impact on what the Supreme Court decides in
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the tariff case. He also defended in an interview with
Fox News Channel the idea of sixty not sixty six hundred,
six hundred thousand Chinese communists coming into America as students
and attending American schools because to not do so would
be bad for these woke colleges, specifically historically black colleges,
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which I didn't even understand what that connection was. But this,
this is an extraordinary list. This is all within just
a couple of during Anti Communism Week, just a couple
of days. This is your republican allegedly anti liberal, anti
woke supposedly, I guess, although he's never really called himself
a conservative president of the United States, all doing things
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that if a liberal Democrat, a Kamala Harris, for instance,
had she won the election, if she did any of
these things, the maccabase would be rightfully going bananas and
the maga media would be screaming rightfully bloody murder. So
let's go through these items with a little bit more detail.
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I want to start with this interview that Trump gave
to Laura Ingram from Fox NewsChannel. And Laura Ingram is
as maga as it gets. She's a Trump sickophant, and
yet she actually did a pretty darn good interview, maybe
almost by accident. There are a lot of Trump fans
who think this might be his worst interview as president
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for a whole lot of different reasons. But I'll give
Laura Ingram a little bit of credit where she does
push back against Trump on some of this stuff, specifically
the fifty year mortgage idea. Now I almost feel stupid
even bothering to talk about why the fifty year mortgage
idea is insane, And I will say that there've even
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been some MAGA media members who have pushed back pretty strongly.
Glenn Beck surprised me by all of a sudden turning
into the twenty sixteen version of Glenn Beck and attacking
this idea with great ferocity, And I thought he was
dead on in his analysis of why it's a horrendous idea.
First of all, apparently, according to Politico, this all came
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about because of basically a ten minute meeting that Trump
had where he was handed a poster of FDR and
himself under the label great Presidents, and he shared it
on social media. Again, I cannot even I cannot emphasize
enough how utterly insane it that Trump is comparing himself
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to FDR, as if FDR is the bastion of great presence,
an avowed socialist who completely changed America in that direction.
And it was FDR who first proposed the thirty year mortgage,
which is currently law as far as the limit for
how long a mortgage can go, and now he wants
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to extend it to fifty years. After no discussion, no vetting,
no none of his advisors even knew he was going
to do this. He just went off and did it
on his own. And you would think you would think that, Okay, well,
Trump's a real estate guy, right at least this is
an area where Trump himself has expertise. He can handle this,
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he understands the issues. Well, clearly he does not, because
a fifty year mortgage would be asinine on so many
different levels. I'll just go through it very quickly. If
this ever became law, the first thing that would happen, right,
if it became popular and people got duped into buying
houses with a fifty year mortgage, you would increase the
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demand for houses, which would therefore increase the price for
everybody trying to buy a house, regardless of how long
you wanted your mortgage to be that's number one. So
everyone would be negatively impacted. Everyone trying to get into
the housing market would be negatively impacted. Maybe the bigger
issue is if you decided to get a fifty year mortgage,
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in the end, it would cost almost twice as much
money to finally own your home. And oh, by the way,
and Glenn Beck made a great point here, if you
have a fifty year mortgage, you got to understand what
happens to a house over fifty years. By the end
of the fifty years, not only are you probably dead,
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but it's not really even the same house anymore because
you've had to repair all the nuts of the bar
and the guts of the thing. So you're paying the
bank almost twice as much money for a house that
you essentially rebuilt. So it's utterly ridiculous on its face,
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and you save almost no money in the short run.
You save a few pennies in the short run figuratively,
but in the long run you get completely screwed. But
maybe in my mind, the worst part of this came
out during the Laura Ingram questioning. She pushed back on
him on this issue, where Trump inadvertently reveals he doesn't
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even understand what the law currently is. He appears to
think that it's forty years, and Laura Ingram has to
politely correct him that it's thirty years. And here's what
that exchange sounded like on Fox News Channel.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Housing costs are still out of reach. And another thing
that your administration is trying to tackle many Americans the
average age of first time home buyers and now up
to age forty, which is sad the country you.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And I inherited that.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Look, you have to understand, right, But how's you.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Get to the Quinn question though? Because your Housing director
has proposed something that has enraged your MAGA friends, which
is this fifty year mortgage idea, so a significant MAGA backlash,
calling it a giveaway to the banks and simply prolonging
the time it would take for Americans to own a home. Outright,
is that really a good idea?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
It's not even a big deal. I mean, you know,
you go from forty to fifty years, and whatever is
is you pay, you pay something less from thirty that
some people had a forty and then that now they
have a fifty. All it means is you pay less
per month you paid over a longer period of time.
It's not like a big factor. It might help a
little bit. But the problem was that Biden did this.
(15:47):
He increased the interest rates, and I have a lousy
fed person who's going to be gone in a few months.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
This could not be a better example of the Emperor's
new clothes. That's a metaphor that many people used with Trump.
I have used it to me. I think every child
ought to learn the story of the Emperor's new Clothes,
where the emperor has no clothes and everyone's afraid to
call him out. But this was really one of those
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moments where in an area where Trump is supposed to
be an expert, he clearly doesn't have a goddamn clue
and he's totally wrong. Now, my guess is this is
never going to happen. I think this is probably going
to get killed. There's been enough MAGA backlash, and look,
I don't think he can do this by executive order.
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You'd have to get the law changed, and so I
just don't see this as happening. I think the intent
was to try to do something to spark home ownership,
because that's clearly a major issue. I get that this
is an issue but this is not the solution in
any way, shape or form. And again, bizarrely, kudo's to
Laura Ingram for at least pushing back on that just
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a bit. I then want to talk about this issue
of the two thousand dollars tariff dividend to non rich people.
I'll talk about class warfare. So I don't know what
the definition of rich would be here in theory. And
this is regarding the whole idea that, well, we've made
all this money on tariffs, and so we're going to
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give some of that money back to the American people,
regardless of whether or not they paid any money because
of the increased tariffs. It's just basically gonna be socialism, communism,
the government paying money. That's just like they did during COVID.
This is right out of the COVID panic playbook where
Trump handed out checks to everybody with his name on it.
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I told you at the time that was going to
create a horrendous precedent, and it did. And now here
we have Trump deciding, well, we allegedly have all this
tariff money. He's greatly exaggerating how much TERRFF money we have.
And oh, by the way, we still have a guard
Gansuan budget deficits. So this idea that somehow, wow, now
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we're in surplus so we can give out dimdend checks
is just flat out completely and totally wrong. Not to mention,
it would be extremely inflationary, which we learned during COVID.
And thankfully I don't think this is going to happen.
But here was Trump at the White House trying to
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pitch his idea of two thousand dollars in a tear
off dimitant for every non rich American.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
We're going to issue a dividend to our middle income
people and lower income people of about two thousand dollars,
and we're going to use the remaining tariffs to lower
our debt. We're going to be lowering our debt, which
is a national security thing. So we were doing a
lot of good work, and the numbers were reported so incorrectly.
The real numbers are trillions of dollars have been taken
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in or have gotten in terms of investment from the tariffs.
And you know, if that were ever reversed, it would
be a disaster. Frankly, it would be a national security
problem for our country. And nobody thinks it's going to
be reversed. I think we had a very good court case.
As you know, it's before the Supreme Court right now.
But if that were ever reversed, you know, people are saying, oh,
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it's a billion dollars. Some people said, oh, it's stupid here. Well,
that obviously we can handle very easily. But this is
trillions of dollars we're talking about in terms of the
tariff income and all the investment income that's come into
our country.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You know, now, not only is this really bad economics
because of the inflation influtionary element of it, and because
of the fact that it increases the depthit dramatically, iyban
two thousand dollars for every non rich person in America.
It's just a staggering amount of money that we clearly
do not have. But there's also the element of this
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coming right on the heels of the teriff issue coming
before the US Supreme Court, and it was very clear
that at least two of the so called conservative justice
Roberts and Barrett, we're having none of the Trump lawyer's
arguments on this and appear to be ready to invalidate
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Trump's tariffs something he's simultaneously. This is just so crazy.
In any other administration, this would be all anyone would
be talking about. But with Trump, it's just par for
the course. He's simultaneously talking about giving away two thousand
dollars a tariff money while also posting on social media
that it would be a catastrophe for the US Supreme
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Court to invalidate the terriffs because the money would have
to be paid back in some way, shape or form.
And so you never know. Is Trump just this schizophrenic,
is he this incompetent? You know, the old argument over
whether he's playing chess or whether he's playing shoots and ladders.
You never know with Trump. But I do think it's
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possible if we try to give Trump some credit here,
which I always attempt to do, even sometimes giving him
more credit than he deserves, If you try to give
him some credit strategically, it seems as if he might
be trying to set up a situation where the US
Supreme Court prevents the American public from getting two thousand
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dollars a piece. That would be logical, at least from
Trump's perspective. That Trump is freaked out that the US
Supreme Court may rule against him here, and he delusionally
thinks that this is going to matter to Roberts or Barrett,
that somehow, if he makes the argument that we're going
to head for an economic catastrophe if the tariffs are invalidated,
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and oh, by the way, you're going to prevent every
non rich American from getting two thousand dollars, that maybe,
just maybe that will impact Roberts and Barrett in their
decision as to how to rule on the tariff case.
In Trump's mind, I guess that makes sense. I don't
see how that's going to have any impact at all
on Roberts or Barrett. I could be wrong about that,
(21:59):
but I just don't see the logic in that. But
if you're Trump, I guess I can see. Because Trump
thinks that this is the way everybody else acts. Trump
thinks he has no principles, So I guess he presumes
Roberts and Barrett have no principles and don't give it
damn about what their interpretation of the law is. That
they're just going to be intimidated either by public pressure
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or this idea that they're going to send the nation
into economic catastrophe or they're going to prevent non rich
Americans from getting two thousand dollars. I don't know what
it is, but that's the best explanation I could come
up with for this incredible dichotomy between Trump at the
one on the one hand, talking about how this is
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going to be a disaster from the terrorist perspective, but
also proposing that he's going to give away all this
tear off money which may not even exist to every
non rich American. And again, the bigger picture is that
this is as communistic as a gas. This is the
government giving people money we don't have simp I guess
(23:01):
to buy public opinion because Trump's approval ratings suck. The
Republicans just got crushed in the off year election. We're
going to have a midterm election and now just less
than the year, and Trump's got to do something to
turn the economy around, at least the perception of the
economy around. And unfortunately, in Trump's world, since he's not
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a conservative and he's acting like a communist, the best
and most efficient way to do that is just to
pay people, even with money we don't have. And then
there's the issue of speaking of communism, Trump being supportive
of six hundred thousand Chinese students being allowed to come
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into America to attend American universities, based upon the idea
that if we don't do that, American universities, some of
these elite, woke schools will be in big trouble economically.
This seemingly horrified Laura Ingram in her interview with Trump.
And here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Folks are not thrilled about this idea of hundreds of
thousands of foreign students in the United States. We have
about three hundred and fifty thousand Chinese. One point during
COVID you were going to, you know, push to get.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
Them out, but that was pulled back.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You've said as many as six hundred thousand Chinese students
could come to the United States. Why, sir, is that
a pro maga position when so many American kids want
to go to school and there are places not for them,
and these universities are getting rich off Chinese money.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Sure, never said about China, but we do have a
lot of people coming in from China. We always have
China and other countries. We also have a massive system
of colleges and universities. And if we were to cut
that in half, which perhaps makes some people happy, you
would have half the colleges in the United States school
out of business. Oh well, I think that's a big deal, are.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
They You would have the the United.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
States, Yeah, but you would have as you know, historically
black colleges and universities would all be out of business.
That you would have a system of colleges and universities.
But I think it's good to have. I actually think
it's good to have outside countries. Look, I want to
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be able to get along with the.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Word, not the French.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
They're the Chinese. They spy on us, they steal our
intellectual problem.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Where do you think the French are better?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Really, I'll tell you, I'm not so sure. We've had
a lot of problems with the French where we get
taxed very unfairly on our technology with you know, they
put twenty five percent taxes on American products. Look, assuming
everyone treats us badly, because that's the way I am.
But we take in trillions of dollars from students. You know,
the students pay more than double when they come in
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from most foreign countries. I want to see our school
system thrive, but at the same time, I want to
be I know you and I disagree. We're never going
to agree on But that's okay. And it's not that
I want them, but I viewed.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
As a business.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
We have millions and millions of people. Also, I want
to get along with countries if possible. You know, people
are shocked. Remember Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Said will be in a war.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
I stopped eight wars in the last nine months. I
don't want to be in worse.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
If I am in a war, We're going.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
To win the thing fast and it'll be violent. But
I don't want to be in worse. But one thing,
you don't want to cut half of the people, half
of the students from all over the world that are
coming into our country, destroy our entire university and college system.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
I don't want to do that.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And don't forget Mega was my idea. Maga was nobody
else's idea. I know what Mega wants better than anybody else,
and Maga wants to see our country thrive.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Now it's hard to dessert what the most telling moment
of that clip was. First of all, there's the idea. Hey, look,
I'm Maga. I'm the one who determines what's maga and
what's not. In other words, I'm the king buzz off
that was rather telling. But it's just remarkable how this,
(27:00):
you know, this warrior against wokeism allegedly who has talked
a really good game when it comes to attacking the
woke universities and the elite colleges, that somehow that would
be problematic. See Laura Ingram says, wait a minute, so
what so what if these elite schools end up being
(27:22):
in economic trouble? I mean, first of all, most of
these elite schools have endowments that are absolutely acidine. I mean,
they're not even really schools anymore. They're hedge funds with
classrooms and football stadiums. That's basically all they are. And
so yeah, it might put a strain on them economically,
(27:44):
But so what. I'm one hundred percent with Laura Ingram,
especially if you really believe, as I do, that they
as an institution are detrimental to America. And I believe most,
if not all, elite academic institutions are currently And so
this was really an incredibly telling moment. I don't know
(28:06):
what's motivating Trump here, I really don't it. I mean, again,
if this was a democratic president making this exact same argument,
MAGA would be rightfully having a fit. But because it's
Trump and he's the one who's in charge. He's the
godlike figure, he's the cult leader, and he says, look,
(28:27):
I decide what's mecca. And it doesn't matter that Laura
Ingram is sitting there horrified at a huge Trump supporter
from Fox Newschelle. You would think she would have some
street cred on this. By the way, similar to this,
I'm not gonna play the clip, but Trump defended expansion
of the visa program because he said that American workers
(28:50):
aren't good enough. We need foreign workers. By the way,
he even used the word you, not us when referencing
to Laura Ingram the issue of American workers. You don't
have those kind of good workers, basically making it sound
like America's a shithole country with a bunch of morons,
(29:10):
which I kind of understand where he's coming groups, especially
given the nature of his cult like base. But I digress.
I mean, this is just unbelievable. This is an incredible
betrayal of the MAGA base and alleged MAGA principles, whatever
the hell they are. And from the standpoint of this
fight against wokeism and elite academic institutions, the most confusing
(29:35):
part about this to me is that, and I have
been supportive of Trump on this, some of the things
Trump's doing by threatening to withhold federal funding is having
an impact. He seemingly has elite academia on the run.
There was remarkable evidence of that this past weekend on
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sixty Minutes when they interviewed a Harvard professor by the
name was Stephen Pinker, who fully acknowledged on sixty Minutes
he doesn't get more mainstream media than that that Harvard
had gone too far to the left and had basically
censored right wing voices, and that they needed more conservative
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perspectives for academic balance. And here's what that sounded like.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Harvard and the federal government have been in settlement talks
for months, and in a statement, the Department of Education
told us the Trump administration is actively working toward a
deal with Harvard that holds them accountable for egregious civil
rights violations and discrimination on campus, while restoring generous taxpayer
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dollar support to the institution. Harvard, in turn says it's
working to improve existing programs promoting ideological diversity.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
Harvard has not done enough to ensure a wide range
of opinions being represented on campus.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Harvard psychology professor Stephen Pinker has been a member of
the faculty for twenty two years and has been outspoken
about what he says is liberal bias on campus. In
your estimation, where has Harvard gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
I think there have been too many incidents in which
someone has expressed a controversial opinion and has been shamed
or canceled.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
President Trump has described Harvard as a liberal mess, that
it has been hiring almost all woke, radical left idiots
and bird breed. Yes, the language is what is a
bit harsh, But does he have a point here?
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Not there? No, I do not agree with that. I
think there's a grain of truth in that. I think
it's the grain of truth. I think there should be
more voices on the right at Harvard. I don't want
Donald Trump to decide who those people are going to
be or how many we should have.
Speaker 7 (31:54):
You do have the president, and you have lots of
supporters of the President who say we don't like what.
Speaker 6 (31:58):
They're doing there at Harvard.
Speaker 7 (32:00):
So why should my text dollars go to support its research?
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Do you want Alzheimer's to be cured? Do you want
to have cancer treatments for kids? Do you want treatments
for people with paralysis?
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So I really baffled by why Trump seems to be
waving the white flag here or not tightening the screws
further when it comes to this issue of six hundred
thousand Chinese communists coming into elite American institutions. There's got
to be something that I don't know about or that
we don't know about that is motivating Trump here because
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he's clearly going to get blowback from his magabase and
as I said, he already did from Laura Ingram, and
he's got he's winning this battle. He's winning this battle. Maybe,
as I try to figure out, okay, maybe this is
all part of a negotiation that he's having with these
schools that he's got to give in on the six
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hundred thousand Chinese students, but maybe he'll get something else
in return. I'm never confident that he's going to actually
pull off the deal like he claims that he is.
You know, the guy wrote the book The Art of
the Deal has never done a whold a lot of
really great deals in my opinion. But maybe if I
give him the benefit of doubt that this is all
part of a plan. But to me, it feels like
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he's got the ball on the five yard line and
he's punted. That's what it feels like when it comes
to the battle against woke academia. But maybe the moment
and I realize I'm in a very very very small
minority here, But maybe the moment that infuriated me the
most over the past week regarding Donald Trump happened when
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he attended an NFL football game in Washington, DC. It's
actually outside Washington, DC. It was a Washington Commander's game.
He was there as a part I guess of Veterans
Day weekend. He was administering an oath to new members
of the military.
Speaker 8 (33:59):
By the way, he got profoundly, profoundly booed, which is
not a big surprise given the fact that he was
a game in the Washington DC area, where he is
extremely unpopular, especially with the government.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Shutdown going on. But I forget about the booing. The
part that really legitimately infuriated me was he was invited
into the booth to be part of the Fox broadcast
of the Washington Commander's game. Now you probably recall that
on multiple occasions we have talked on this podcast about
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how Trump has unique leverage when it comes to the
Washington Commander's football team because they want to move their
stadium from outside Washington, d C. To back into Washington,
d C on the side of the old RFK Stadium,
which happens to be in part on federal land. So
Trump has leverage over the washingt Commanders, and I had
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been urging for a long time him to try to
use this leverage to get the Commanders to restore their
nickname to what it ought to be, what God intended,
which is the Washington Redskins, never thinking that that was
really going to go anywhere, because I didn't think that Trump,
even though some members of the conservative media had asked
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him about this. We played the clips on this podcast,
it didn't seem like Trump got it. That he was
philosophically not in favor of the Commanders, but he didn't
really believe in the whole Redskins thing, and he hadn't
put all the pieces together in his tiny little mind.
And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he
made a couple of social media posts where he made
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a big deal out of the Redskins issue and seemed
to finally get it and seemed to indicate that he
was going to do what it took to try to
get the Washington Commanders to change their name back to
the Washington Redskins. Now, I said at the time, I
did not believe that Trump would have the four to
two dude to take this all the way into the
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end zone. I think I said it was a thirty
percent chance that he would actually take this fight all
the way. I even had a disagreement with my former
co host on this podcast, Liz Abebe, who now works
for the Trump administration fairly closely to Trump has I
don't know if she has interaction with him, but certainly
she has an interaction with a lot of top people,
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and she was very confident, now living in Washington, DC,
that Trump was going to succeed, that the Redskins thing
was a done deal. I think was basically she told me,
and I told her she was wrong, that this was
never going to happen, that Trump wouldn't follow it all
the way through. And so since that time, we've heard
nothing about the Redskins name. But now we have a
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very unique situation. We have Trump being the first president
to attend an NFL football game since nineteen seventy eight,
first time maybe ever, because I don't think that Jimmy
Carter when he was president nineteen six. I could be
wrong about this, but I have no recollection of him
actually being in the booth during that game. So essentially,
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for the first time in modern history, we have a
US president in the booth for eight minutes live during
not just an NFL football game. By the way, if
he was at any NFL football game, it would be
relevant to bring up the Redskins game. But he's at
a Washington Commander's football game, and I'm like, Okay, is
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he even going to bring this up? Because this is
the perfect time. Not only did Trump not bring this up,
he clearly resisted multiple opportunities where it would have been
completely and totally not just appropriate, but in my opinion,
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imperative that he brings up the Redskins name. The Fox
play by play announcer incorrectly referenced the Commanders as having
won multiple Super Bowls in their Washington history. Well that's
not true. The Commanders have never won anything close to
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a Super Bowl. It was the Redskins that won a
super multiple Super Bowls, and Trump said nothing. Then Trump
references past great red skin coaches, specifically George Allen and
Joe Gibbs, without ever even uttering the word redskins. He
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didn't have to bring up the red skin issue, although
I certainly would have with one thousand percent certainty, But
Trump doesn't even It seems like he was going out
of his way not to bring up the red skin issue.
Fox was almost inviting him to bring up the red
skin issue, and Trump didn't do it at all. In fact,
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Trump was so oblivious to everything that was going on.
The Color analyst and I'm actually surprised that this didn't
get from from what I can tell, more attention online.
But the Fox analyst, not once but twice, basically mocked
Trump during this eight minute interview in the booth by
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using the six' seven. Meme, now if you don't know
what six', seven is you clearly don't have young KIDS like.
I do but the biggest thing in middle schools this,
entire year and, IT'S huge, i mean it might be
the biggest meme of. All time is this idea of
whatever the words or the numbers six seven, get used everyone.
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Goes bananas and on two occasions the analyst used six'
seven clearly, referencing The meme and trump had no idea
what he. Was talking about trump has to be the
Last media consuming american who has no idea whatsoever what. Six.
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Seven is now no one knows, what it means but
most people at least know that. It's a thing trump
didn't know that. It's A thing and i didn't see
as Much mockery of trump OVER that as I expected
once i, Saw the clip but that paled in comparison
to Me to what trump did not Do. Regarding the,
Redskins to me trump. Completely wimped out trump. Is a
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fraud trump at his core is. A fucking pussy that's
what pisces me off. More than anything he pretends to
be this great warrior against wokeism, and political correctness and
you know that's in all of, his is, persona the
imagery even, the you know the, social media, posts c
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megs and it's. All a facade it's. All a fraud.
He's a wimp. He wimped out he did. Have the
balls that. Was the moment and, BY the way i
should be POINTING out that espn had reported just a
few days before This appearance that trump has Said he
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wanted washington to name the. Stadium after. Him, after him
now it's impossible to know the truthfulness. OF that story espn.
Had multiple sources it Certainly. Sounds like trump there's been
no real. Confirmation of that but if, that is true
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now all, of a sudden we have an explanation in
Theory for why trump so completely whimped out on. The
redskin issue is he playing ball Because he thinks washington
may name the. Stadium after him there's no chance they're,
gonna do that but it Only matters that trump thinks.
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That they might And so is trump playing ball for?
His own purposes is he selling out the red skin issue,
because he thinks or once or Dreams that a washington
football stadium is gonna Be Named. FOR donald trump i
just don't think there's any way. That's GONNA happen the
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nfl has made it very clear for a long time
ago they Have Disdained. For donald trump that's why he
was INVOLVED. IN the, usfl i mean there's a long
Standing feud between TRUMP, and the nfl and there's No, WAY,
in washington dc the commanders are gonna name their stadium
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for a guy who's going to be out of office
in a, couple of years who the vast majority of
the residents of their city and their fan base hates that's.
Not gonna Happen but does trump really think, That that's
possible and is that why he's Completely Abandoned the. RED
skin issue. I don't know my gut tells me it's
actually just because, he's a pussy because he had his
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moment and. He blew it there will never be. A
greater moment, by the way even if you could never
actually Win on the redskins name issue from, a principal
standpoint if you really believe in it and you really
are a. Warrior against wokeism when the play by play
announcer Says that the commanders have a great history and
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Have Won, several super, bowls, you go. No they haven't
they haven't Won. Any Super Bowls the washington Redskins Won.
Multiple Super bowls joe Gibbs Won. Multiple Super bowls george
allen Went To a super Bowl as, a redskin Coach Just.
LIKE joe, GIBBS i, mean i mean anybody would Say
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that if and, by the way this. IS a guy.
I love this this is my favorite part of what
was an incredibly infuriating moment FOR me is i think
you can already tell about this, On SOCIAL media and
I had many trump fans seemingly seriously Tell me that
trump was actually using good decorum and that this was
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not the appropriate time in place for him to bring. Up,
the issue Yes Because if donald trump is, about nothing
else he's about decorum and picking the appropriate time in
place to say things and not doing anything that might,
disrupt you know generally. Accepted good behavior that's Really what's
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All trump and trump. Is all, about, Come on people
his entire persona, is about, being you know the bull in,
the china shop and here the. Bull was castrated the
bull has no. Balls at all the bull. Is a
pussy the bull's. Not A bull donald trump is a complete.
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And total fraud we've, always known this but when you see,
it in action and you see it actually ending, the
last chance this golden opportunity to reverse this Horrendous moment
in american history where somehow we all DECIDED, with the
nfl decided to screw over one of, their great franchises,
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not to mention piss Off Millions of native americans who
actually Liked the nickname redskins for. NO purpose, WHATSOEVER i
mean i don't even know who. They were placating nobody
was actually pleased except, for you know white female liberals
who aren't even football fans. To begin with that we
got rid of The redskins and trump goes down without. Even,
(45:38):
a fight again Part of why i'm making a big
deal about this is he. Posted about it trump did.
On multiple occasions and when it came time to stand,
up and, actually you know take the FIGHT, to the
nfl take The fight the fox in, A perfect opportunity
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trump didn't even, come up tiny he. Didn't even exist
he revealed himself as a complete fraud. And a Pussy
That's who. Donald TRUMP is and i realized to some
people that why is this so big a? Deal to?
YOU to me i do think the redskin. ISSUE matters
symbolically i think it's way more significant than. Most people
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understand but it's Mostly about who, trump really is because
if he's wimping, out on this what else is he?
Wimping out on in, very dramatic ways he IS not,
A pc WARRIOR he's. A pc wossy and this is,
HAVING an, impact i, think in. Many many ways and
we've already seen it this week in many Other topics
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that i've already gotten into details on, NOW as otherways
i still try to Be, fair to TRUMP even though
i have disdain for him in a very, very deep
way especially this week for All the reasons, i've Already
stated and I'm gonna defend trump one more time when
it comes to a story that exploded just before we
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started to tape this episode, of the podcast and That
is that, democrats now think or at least are pretending
That they have trump Implicated In the jeffrey epstein scandal
because They have released democrats have three Different Emails involving jeffrey,
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epstein that appear at least in their minds To Implicate
somehow Donald trump. In, epstein's, crimes now look my view
on this has. Been very clear. Epstein was guilty epstein killed.
Himself in prison the story has gotten completely out of
control because of a perfect. STORM of circumstances i don't
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believe there was any massive. Sex trafficking organization i'm not
even sure, That His, companion glene maxwell who's in, a
federal prison. WAS actually guilty i know she didn't get.
A fair Trial i know prince Formerly Known as prince
andrew Now just regular andrew is, almost certainly innocent which
is why he was never. Charged with anything the story
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has gotten completely out of control For reasons that i've
talked about many many times, in the Past and so
democrats understand that this is an. Extremely combustible environment they
know anything new or quote unquote new With regard to
epstein They can Connect epstein to trump is going to
get massive amounts of attention, and media coverage which IS
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partially why I have said i Don't think, the epstein
files to whatever, extent they exist should even ever be
made public because people are going to misinterpret. What's in
there it's, nuclear powered now and people that are totally
innocent are going to have. Their lives destroyed well we
saw evidence of. That this morning when these three emails
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are over several years, period of time we're released, with
no context no chain Whatsoever that are epstein. In an
exchange one of the Exchanges Is, with michael wolfe who
is an ALLEGED journalist that i have never had. ANY
trust For I think michael wolfe is is as sketchy
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as it gets when it comes to a, so called journalist,
A book author he's written A, lot about, TRUMP you,
know i mean the, media loves him especially when He.
Goes after trump, but TO me when i looked, at
these emails maybe the most significant thing is that we
now Have Proved that michael wolfe Is Essentially advising jeffrey
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epstein back in twenty fifteen about How To, manipulate donald
trump because in twenty fifteen he was running For president
and epstein was facing these allegations, and you know you
might Be able to, i'm paraphrasing here you might be
able to manipulate Your relationship with trump if he gets
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elected to help. You, out here now that's completely and
totally inappropriate for. An alleged journalist this is right Out
Of the, sarah gannam playbook maybe even worse in some
Ways From The Penn State Joe paternal, jerry sedusky scandal
where the woman Who Got the pulitzer prize is essentially
recruiting accusers and accusers' parents during a critical moment. In
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THAT investigation, But i digress michael wolf, Is a scumbag
AND so when i look at this from, a journalistic
perspective that's the real headline from, this these, email these
emails that got Released by the Democrats in The. House
of representatives but With regard To, Epstein, And trump yeah Epstein,
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refers to trump and He refers to trump in a rather.
Vague WAY away and i even got manipulated by the
way that the emails GOT released because i woke up
at six point thirty, in THE morning like, I normally Do,
i CHECK twitter and i See that the democrats have,
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released These emails and i'm, reading the emails and two
Of them have epstein seemingly use the word victim. In capital,
letters i'm like how does that make? Any goddamn Sense
why would epstein be using the word victim? In capital
letters AND stupidly because i didn't look at, it carefully
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enough and it's. Not made clear it's definitely. Not MADE
clear and i think this is. Done on purpose by
The way the democrats. Release the email epstein does not
use the word victim in capital. Letters or otherwise he,
uses somebody's name but we don't know, that person's name
and so they redacted that person's name and they put
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in the word victim. In, capital letters well we have
no idea. What that means on what basis are they using,
the word victim who is it and why is? That being,
Redacted you know i've talked about this, many many times
where this whole idea that we must protect the identity
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of accusers even when they are, adults in very very
high profile and serious situations where people's freedoms are on
the line or the reputations, on the line is. Just,
totally absurd okay you can't evaluate the nature of an
allegation or, in this case the context of an email
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Without knowing who. Epstein's referring to so we're just supposed
To trust the democrats that this person is a quote
Unquote victim when epstein never even. WENT to, trial i
mean who knows what who? That PERSON is and i
will acknowledge that at least one of the emails is
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Odd in that Epstein, refers to trump although you could
argue that he's actually making The case that trump was
trying to get him to, knock it off because He
says that Trump Essentially told glene maxwell. To stop it
so in, a weird way That's Exculpatory. For donald trump
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i've Never Believed that donald trump had anything to do
with the Crimes Committed. By jeffrey epstein none of the
Accusers in the epstein case have ever said anything but
Positive Things. About Donald Trump, even virginia jeoffrey who just
killed herself and then, released this book even though she
claims to have been trafficked Out Of, mar a lago
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she had very nice things To Say about donald trump,
in her book which never made any. Sense to me
but THAT'S the. Fact, i mean so none of these
accusers have ever been on the record saying Anything Negative.
About donald, trump in fact they've only. Said positive things
so here we have these VAGUE emails where i don't
Even understand what. EPSTEIN is saying i acknowledge. That they
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were they are certainly weird enough, to warrant questioning Questioning,
maybe of Trump. Ideally of epstein, But guess what. Epstein
is dead, SO you know i go through this, every
single time Not, just with epstein but other cases similar
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and especially in situations. Where They're Suicide and virginia geoffrey
is a really good example of this with. Their new book,
that's you know the media has been touting as if,
it's the gospel which. Is completely ridiculous when, someone is
dead that means they. Can't, be questioned obviously there used
to be a time when the news, media understood this
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and the, attitude, was basically, well you, know it sucks
but we can't question this, person about this therefore we
can't give it. Very much credibility but that. Doesn't exist, anymore,
in fact weirdly the dead person all of a sudden.
Gets INFINITE credibility and i love this part of, this
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whole story where the obviously incredibly Duplicitous And, corrupt jeffrey
epstein all, of a sudden his vague emails are taken,
as highly credible like we can interpret them as being
obviously truthful his private emails where he's being Advised To
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manipulate donald trump By Alleged. Journalist MICHAEL wolff so i Don't,
understand how epstein who's dead and obviously a corrupt individual,
at his core can be taken seriously. As a source
the emails, are very vague the word victim being put
in there is obviously an attempt that was, successful ON
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me as i was groggy, in the morning to pretend
that the person being referred To is, an epstein victim
as if, the implication, there of course and what the
reader must Believe is that trump knew that the person,
being referred to this anonymous person whose, name Is redacted
that trump knew that they were a quote Unquote, victim
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of epstein which. Is obviously absurd that is really the
biggest weakness in this email release is the use of
the word victim. In a redaction we have No idea
who epstein literally, is referring to or what that might
mean With regard to trump having spent time, with this
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Person or what epstein. Is even meaning but forget about
the details. FOR a second i go back to the
core Of the, entire epstein issue which has been so
incredibly frustrated to me because it's so obvious, from my
perspective and the vast majority of the public and even
the media just really do. Not understand this this is
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where The topic of epstein's suicide is. So incredibly important
let's pretend that the democratic interpretation of these emails, is
EXACTLY correct which i don't believe it, Is at all
but let's just pretend for sake of argument that. It's
completely correct, there's a massive massive problem with the logic
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because here you have, In twenty Fifteen Epstein and michael
wolfe essentially for lack of, a better term conspiring to
Figure out how trump might Be. Helpful to epstein that's
my paraphrase of probably the key email of the three
that got Released by the Democrats. In The, house all
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right in, a weird way if you, think this through
this Actually, further exonerates trump unless unless You believe that
epstein was murdered in. A federal prison because if you
Don't believe that epstein was murdered in, a federal Prison Against, What, Bill,
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Barr Cash, mattel Dan bongino and pambondi, have all said and,
not to mention four Years of THE biden do oj
never said a Damn thing about so you've, Got You
know bill barr is a huge part of This Equation
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because bill Barr. Is, anti trump now So You've, Got,
Bill Barr, Pambondy Dan, bongino cash mattel And THE entire
biden doj Effectively saying yep. Epstein killed himself so you
have to believe, all those people for some. Reason aren't
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lying and you also don't, have A suspect which i've
said a million times is impossible in this situation where
you would know to within a couple of people who
could have. Possibly done this it's, a federal prison you
know where everybody is. At all times you can't just
sneak into a federal prison that. You know there if this,
had actually happened there would be a very very very
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clear suspect that it would be an. Incredibly easy. Crime,
as All so if epstein did, not kill himself then
you have an argument, because, all Right well obviously, epstein
was silence but there's no, evidence Of that and i've just,
told you why there's no reason. To believe That but
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if epstein, did kill himself it destroys the email Between,
he and wolf because if the email Between him and
wolf is to be Understood as somehow epstein having Some,
dirt on trump he never would have killed himself in. A.
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Federal prison people it's it's. Either or now in order
To believe that trump is Somehow implicated by, epstein in
this you must believe in one of the most massive
nonsensical conspiracies. Of all time you must believe he was,
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killed in prison because if, he killed himself it totally
invalidates the entire Theory because if epstein really Has dirt
On trump and trump is president and he's in a
federal prison. Facing federal charges there's no chance in the
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world he's. Gonna kill himself he's a super rich guy
with all, sorts of connections and he's got blackmail material
on the President Of. The united states why would. He
kill himself. That's completely absurd he would never do that
because he would have, not only hope he would have
(01:00:55):
An expectation that trump might help him. Out of this
it might only take a wink wink and a nod
nod or the very at the, worst case scenario all
he's got, to do, is you know announce he's going
to do an interview with some media outlet which would
have been happy to do an. Interview with him and
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there's all sorts Of things that epstein could have Done
to alert trump that he was about to give up The,
goods On trump and trump, would have said, who whoa whoa.
Whoa whoa whoa hold, on a second because he's President Of,
the united states it still us to run for re election,
At that point so that theory doesn't even make it
out of. A batter's box so you must you Must
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believe that epstein WAS murdered because i, get you know if,
that was true there would be Some logic To trump
wanting epstein dead right if he had dirt on him
somehow implicating him in a. SEX trafficking scandal. I get
it i don't believe that it's, what would happen but at,
LEAST in theory i understand that that. Makes some Sense
(01:02:00):
but as i've said, a zillion times there's no, evidence
for it and there's a massive amount of a lack
of evidence that proves, it didn't happen including the PART
that even i, don't mention enough which Is THAT the
biden doj said nothing about this, for four years even
when they Were running against. Trump for reelection how? Is
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that possible. It's completely RIDICULOUS so the bidendj was sitting
On Evidence that donald trump engaged in Illegal Activity with
jeffrey epstein in a massive, sex trafficking ring and they
just decided never to leak that during, their four Years
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even when Trump got the, republican presidential nomination they indicted
them on everything, they possibly could but they just never
decided to Go down. The epstein, bat, come on people.
Use your brains and so the bottom line to me
of those emails is that this is yet another example
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where the media is going to take them. Out OF
context and i have no doubt that this will actually
further the Asenine theory that epstein was murdered in a
federal president because that's what you. Have, to believe now
that's the only way that miss. Makes ANY sense and
i said that the emails Actually weirdly. Exonerate, trump further
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sure if you, use your, brain They Do because michael
wolfe is planting The seeds in epstein's brain in twenty
Fifteen that, If trump wins trump might be able to
be manipulated. To help you and yet we're supposed To
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believe that epstein with that, obviously you know planted in
His Brain by michael wolfe allegedly Having Dirt, on donald
trump who. Wins The presidency, and epstein decides, YOU know
what i. Haven't no hope i'm gonna kill myself in
a brutal fashion in a federal prison because it's. Gonna
(01:04:06):
be ugly you can't cleanly kill yourself in. A federal
prison and that's What. Happened with epstein how does that make?
Any goddamn. Sense it doesn't but this is just gonna
be another example where everybody buys. Into a myth this
is gonna further, the fairy tale the dark fairy tale of.
This entire CASE and, here i am, in my opinion
(01:04:30):
probably doing a better Job Of, defending DONALD trump, whom
i hate with probably a GREATER passion than i, ever
had previously than Anybody in the magamedia. Is gonna Do
because the magamedia is. Hamstrung On this the magamedia Can't
Fully defend donald trump because they've bought into This bullshit that,
epstein was murdered which is just so, stupid to me
(01:04:55):
not just because, it didn't happen but Because, obviously implicate
trump at least didn't directly because he was President And,
His Attorney general bill barr was in charge of the
federal prison system. At the, TIME so yeah i actually
take no joy in The idea that trump is being
poisted on the pitard Of. His own magamedium, Morons and
(01:05:18):
competence thanks for listening to today's free drop of. The
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