August 10, 2025 • 29 mins
In the September 2024 episode of the Lex Fridman Podcast, Donald Trump discussed the ongoing controversy surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s confidential files and client list. He stated that, if re‑elected, he would have “no problem” releasing additional Epstein‑related documents and said he would “probably” make the client list public—positioning the release as a matter of transparency subject to his re‑election.
That promise—to “have no problem” unsealing the Epstein files if re-elected, voiced on the Lex Fridman podcast—now rings hollow given his administration’s actions. Despite that pledge, no substantive new revelations have been made. The Department of Justice, led by AG Pam Bondi, released heavily redacted materials in February and claimed there’s no client list—an assertion that infuriated many supporters and was declared “a lot of redacted nothing” by critics. Even under mounting pressure—including subpoenas from the House Oversight Committee and investigations into Clinton, Comey, and others—the administration has shifted from transparency to deflection, labeling the entire Epstein files saga a “Democratic hoax” and telling supporters not to dwell on it.
Also..
A Business Insider analysis of unsealed court records revealed that Donald Trump is identified as John Doe 174 in a set of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents. These “Doe” placeholders were used to anonymize nearly 200 individuals mentioned in the files—ranging from Epstein’s wealthy acquaintances to others referenced in passing. The revelation stemmed from a 2024 court order that unsealed previously redacted information, including the specific identity behind Doe 174.
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Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected (nypost.com)
source:
It Sure Looks Like Donald Trump Is Doe 174 in Epstein Documents (businessinsider.com)
That promise—to “have no problem” unsealing the Epstein files if re-elected, voiced on the Lex Fridman podcast—now rings hollow given his administration’s actions. Despite that pledge, no substantive new revelations have been made. The Department of Justice, led by AG Pam Bondi, released heavily redacted materials in February and claimed there’s no client list—an assertion that infuriated many supporters and was declared “a lot of redacted nothing” by critics. Even under mounting pressure—including subpoenas from the House Oversight Committee and investigations into Clinton, Comey, and others—the administration has shifted from transparency to deflection, labeling the entire Epstein files saga a “Democratic hoax” and telling supporters not to dwell on it.
Also..
A Business Insider analysis of unsealed court records revealed that Donald Trump is identified as John Doe 174 in a set of Jeffrey Epstein-related documents. These “Doe” placeholders were used to anonymize nearly 200 individuals mentioned in the files—ranging from Epstein’s wealthy acquaintances to others referenced in passing. The revelation stemmed from a 2024 court order that unsealed previously redacted information, including the specific identity behind Doe 174.
to contact me:
bobbycapucci@protonmail.com
source:
Trump suggests he’ll release Jeffrey Epstein ‘client list’ if elected (nypost.com)
source:
It Sure Looks Like Donald Trump Is Doe 174 in Epstein Documents (businessinsider.com)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
According to Donald Trump, whom in an appearance on the
Lex Friedman podcast recently, he's open to releasing the Jeffrey
Epstein client list if he's reelected as the president of
the United States. The only problem is there is no
client list. That's the real problem here. Everybody wants to
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talk about a client list. They want to talk about
this that the other thing. Fine, great, but the real
five hundred pound ape in the room is the fact
that there's been people named, and those people have had
no repercussions at all. So what makes anyone believe that,
even if there was a list, that anyone on that
list would get into any trouble whatsoever. So it's all
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fine and well to talk about a list, But if
you really want to impress people, and if you really
want to pursue justice, there's one way to do it,
one clear path, and that is RICO charges for everybody involved.
But unfortunately that ship is sailed, and now everybody can
flex and say I did this, or I did that,
or I'm gonna do this. But the reality is, when
people had a chance to do something about what happened, here,
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nobody did shit, and that's because, in their opinion, whoever
was running the operation, well, the juice was worth the squeeze, right,
Whatever information Jeffrey Epstein was giving them, in their minds anyway,
was good enough to warrant him not going to prison
for what he was doing. And to people who might
not know anything about how the FBI works or how
the Department of Justice works, this is pretty common. The
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Department of Justice has made deals with some seriously demented
people throughout the years. So if you think for a
second that they wouldn't make a deal with a guy
like Jeffrey Epstein if he was providing compromant, if he
was providing information that they felt was worthwhile, then you
best believe he's going to be brought into the fold.
And in my opinion, after the debacle at Baron Stearns,
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he should have been arrested. Everybody else gets hemmed up,
but he finds a way to not go to jail.
He finds a way to not get indicted or convicted
or anything. Every single time people get in trouble around him,
he's the only one that doesn't get in trouble. Now,
for people who don't follow along with organized crime, and
they don't understand how moles work and how cis work.
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This is it, This is what happens. If you get
picked up and you're a CI short of murdering somebody,
they're gonna let you go because they think that you're
gonna help their greater case. So the idea is to
get somebody in, get them turned quickly, and have them
back out on the street within twenty four hours, so
nobody is wiser to what's going on. And in my opinion,
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there's no doubt that Epstein was turned when he got
nailed with this whole entire Barristerns thing. And that's why
I say all the time that Jeffrey Epstein was an asset,
not a CIA agent, not an agent of the macade,
but simply an asset like many many other people around
the globe. Now, some assets are more important than others, right,
And I don't think there's any dispute that Jeffrey Epstein
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would be a gigantic piece to the puzzle for these
intelligence agencies that are looking to collect compromunt on people.
Considering how many notable some people visited Jeffrey Epstein's residences
and for me. It's not just the island. A lot
of people get caught up on the island, and I
understand why, right, there's that era of secrecy there, etc.
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But he was abusing women at all of these properties
that he owned, from New Mexico all the way to Paris,
and I don't think enough is made out of all
of that. You know, people will be like, hey, I
never went to the island, but I was at his house.
What like, no abuse ever took place at the house.
So it's ridiculous to me when people use that as
an excuse. If you were spending any amount of time
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at any of Jeffrey Epstein's properties, then chances are you
saw some shit that was unacceptable. Today's article is from
the New York Post and the headline Trump suggests he'll
release Jeffrey Epstein client list if elected. I'd have no
problem with it. This article was authored by Victor Naba.
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Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that he'd have no
problem releasing more official files related to Jeffrey Epstein if elected,
including the Late Offenders client list. Here's what he should
be releasing. All the video tapes. Let's get all those
videotapes Let's see everything that was seized and taken from
Epstein's homes. Let's see all of the information that the
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FBI refuses to share with the public. Let's see all
of that. The client list is a pump fake folks.
Don't fall for it. Don't fall for the salacious bullshit.
That's all part of the plan to keep the real
story covered up. You know, like the stuff about Tom
Hanks having people on an island somewhere and how he
had this big part with Epstein. None of that was
ever true. None of that was ever even remotely true.
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But people were out here believing it. People were out
here reposting it. Meanwhile, not a word about Bill Clinton
and his deep relations with Jeffrey Epstein, which is one
hundred percent effect. Hardly a mention that Stacey Plaskt, a
sitting congresswoman for the Democrats, is being sued by Epstein's survivors.
Hardly any talk about George Mitchell or Bill Richardson. How
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much more selatious do you want it? See? What people
want is they want to be their enemies that get
caught up in this. That's why they're interested. It's not
about the pursuit of justice. For a lot of people. Instead,
it's how you can wield this as a political cudgel.
And for the Democrats, they've really made a mistake here
trying to use this as some sort of weapon, considering
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their deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein throughout the years. I
think it's a very very odd flex. You're gonna show
a picture of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein during your
convention and then the next night trot out Bill Clinton,
like for real, for real, there's no doubt that Donald
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein used to be friendly, one hundred
percent of fact. You know what else is the fact though,
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that Bill Clinton and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was
much deeper than any relationship that Donald Trump ever had
with him. So if you're gonna come out and you're
gonna try and flex and show a picture of Jeffrey
Epstein with Donald Trump, you can't trot out Bill Clinton
the next night. Right, you would think people would hold
them accountable, but no, there's no accountability. It's all about winning.
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All that matters is the other side doesn't win, even
if that means throwing your support behind somebody like Bill
Clinton and acting like he has answered for his role
within the Jeffrey Epstein criminal enterprise, because he most certainly
is not. In fact, he's been caught lying about his
role numerous times. But where all these loudmouthed journalists that
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always talk about how they're holding people to account. Oh,
that's right, they're busy calling jd Vance weird. While that
might be the case, you know what else is weird
the fact that you have a sitting Democratic congresswoman who's
being sued by the Epstein survivors and you're not talking
about that. If you really wanted to flex, you would
have brought some of those survivors out during your convention.
But no, it's all about grandstanding. It's never about justice,
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and it's never about holding people to account. During an
appearance on the Lex Friedman podcast, Trump seventy eight insisted
that he never visited the pedophiles notorious private island where
scores the young women and underage girls were allegedly abused,
but that a lot of big people did well. There's
no doubt there's no reports of Donald Trump ever being
on the island one hundred percent of fact. Now. Bill Clinton,
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on the other hand, was seen on the island by
multiple eyewitnesses, and those eyewitnesses have won on the record
saying so. Now at the same time, just to be clear,
I haven't heard one bit of evidence that Bill Clinton
was abusing anybody while he was with Jeffrey Epstein. Haven't
heard any of that. But I also haven't heard any
answers for why Jeffrey Epstein made at least seventeen trips
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to the White House accompanied by young women when Bill
Clinton was a president. Why there's a picture of Bill
Clinton at Jeffrey Epstein's house while Bill Clinton's wearing a
blue dress and some pumps, that's hanging on the wall.
I'd like some answers about that, or about the fact
that Jeffrey Epstein gave the seed money to the Clintons
to get the Global Initiative off the ground. Maybe we
should talk about that a little bit. Or the fact
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that Alexander do Rossi, who is Glenn Maxwell's nephew, was
given a job at the State Department by Hillary Clinton.
Maybe we should talk about that. And those are just
a few of the questions I have. You see, none
of these questions have ever been answered. In fact, the
whitewash legacy, media hasn't even asked any of these questions, really,
and that right there should tell you everything you need
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to know about the whitewash that the legacy media has
been engaged in to keep Bill Clinton's name out of
the Jeffrey Epstein files and to keep Bill Clinton's name
out of the greater conversation. The big problem for them
is anybody who's been following along knows that that's impossible
because their relationship was tight, so tight in fact, that
Gallan Maxwell was a guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. I
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don't think, I mean, I'm not involved, the Republican nominee
for president said, when host Lex Friedman suggested that he
had shown some hesitation about releasing documents related to Epstein.
I never went to his island, fortunately, but a lot
of people did, Trump continued, and again, that's not really
the be all end, all right, just because you didn't
go to the island doesn't mean you didn't abuse anybody.
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But the same thing with Trump. There's no indication that
Trump was abusing anybody. People want to bring up the
lawsuit from Katie, but how much stock can you put
into a lawsuit when somebody is being unreliable, right, Really,
that's what you have to call it, because that's what
it was, unreliable testimony. And especially in the wake of
the ruling against Trump with Genie Carroll, you would think
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that if what Katie was saying is true, that she
would reignite this and get cracking. But that's not the case.
And after extensive investigation into those allegations, nothing has come
of it. And we're talking about people that are not
exactly friendly to Trump here that have been investigating this.
What you think people don't want their hands on something
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like this. So if the Katie Johnson allegations were true,
those allegations would be front and center, and you notice
that they're not. And like I always say around these parts,
we believe the evidence wherever the evidence takes us. It's
not a believe all women thing. It comes down to
the evidence. And if the evidence isn't there, then it's
not there. You can't go and make it up because
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it fits your narrative. So when we're talking about the
relationships and we're talking about who did what, there has
not been one credible allegation that's been made about Trump
or Bill Clinton abusing girls with Jeffrey Epstein With Bill Clinton,
it's more of the enabling, right, the connection, the interconnections
with finances, Epstein financing his stupid ass initiative, all this
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other stuff that makes Epstein put his hooks into Bill Clinton.
And if you don't see how that is a distinct
difference than his relationship with Trump, well, I can't help you.
When you can manipulate somebody into doing what you want
them to do because you have a financial hold over
them or compromand on them, the relationship dynamics are completely different.
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And there's zero doubt that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein
were as tight as the day is long, whereas the
facts tell us that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were
once friendly, but they had a gigantic falling out and
that led to them no longer associating with each other.
The former president argued that Epstein was a good salesman
who had some nice assets that he'd throw around like islands.
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When asked why so many high powered executives, politicians, and
royalty have been linked to the multi millionaire pedophile, Well,
there's no doubt the dude could sell ice cubes to
an Eskimo. He was a bullshit artist of the top
degree and maybe one of the biggest and best bullshit
artists of all time. No wonder him and Bill Clinton
got along so well. But a lot of big people
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went to that island. Fortunately I was not one of them,
Trump reiterated. Epstein pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight
to pro carrying a child for prostitution and of soliciting
a prostitute. He was sentenced eighteen months in jail for
the crimes. Epstein was busted again in twenty nineteen, accused
of sexually abusing dozens of young girls in his Upper
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east Side townhouse and his waterfront mansion in Palm Beach, Florida,
between two thousand and two and two thousand and five.
And this is what I was talking about with the island.
While the island did play a big part, we can't
forget that this abuse was happening wherever this combat went.
The sixty six year old pedophile was found dead in
his Manhattan jail cell in August of twenty nineteen, and
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his death was ruled a suicide. He had faced up
to forty five years in prison. In January, unsealed core
documents filed in Epstein's accuser of Virginia Roberts twenty fifteen
defamation suit against the sex offenders, Madam Glene Maxwell. You
mean co conspirator, general, all around scusbag and fellow child abuser.
Right showed dozens of high profile names among the more
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than one hundred and seventy people with ties to Epstein. Yeah,
it's very interesting, isn't it, Trump responded when Friedman described
it as very strange that a complete list of Epstein's
clients that visited his little Saint James Island in the
Caribbean has not been made public. It probably will be,
by the way, Trump added, I'd certainly take a look
at it. What do they think there was like a
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sign in book, like a registry at the top of
the mountain when you get to the summit. The people
were coming here so they could remain private. There's no list.
There's no group of people who were, you know, part
of this John group that used to come and use
their services. That's not what this was. This wasn't Heidi Fliss.
The people that were being caught up in this were
people that were powerful people, whether they're world leaders or
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big shot bankers, whatever. Those are The kind of people
that were getting caught up in this. It wasn't just
you know, somebody signing up and coming to the island
to have relations with some girl. That's not what this was.
So I understand the essence of what Trump's talking about here,
and if there's any documentation, it should be released. But
I don't think getting people gassed up over a list
is the right way to go, because there is no list,
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not the kind of list people are talking about. I
think the closest thing you're going to ever have to
a list are the flight logs and the Black Book.
After noting that his desire to quickly release documents related
to the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy if elected,
Trump clarified that he'd be willing to do the same
with the Epstein files. But yeah, I'd be inclined to
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do the Epstein Trump said, I'd have no problem with it,
And look, if he sticks to his word, that's gravy
for me, certainly more than the other sides offering up.
In fact, what they're doing is Trott now Bill Clinton.
So I don't know how anyone who cares about justice
when it comes to Epstein could sit here and say, oh,
you know what, that's the right way to go. Let's
bring out Bill Clinton and shove him down everybody's throat,
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considering what everybody knows about him. Really not a good look,
especially if you're gonna try and use Epstein as a
cudgel to go after Trump. Like I always say, if
you have a dirty ass yard and it is just
an absolute disrepair, you have some nerve if you pop
your head over your wall and tell your neighbor that
he better trim his palm trees. And that's basically what
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we're seeing here. All right, folks, that's gonna do it
for this one. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box one.
And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So as we
continue to get new documents. When it comes to the
unseiling of the Epstein files, it's looking Likenald Trump is
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going to be named as dough one seventy four in
this dump. So today we have an article from Business
Insider talking about Donald Trump being named as Doe one
seventy four. So let's dive into this article and let's
see what's going on with good old Donnie boy Trump.
The headline it sure looks like Donald Trump was disguised
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as dough one seventy four in newly unsealed Jeffrey Epstein documents.
This article was authored by Jacob Shamsian. Over the past week,
thousands of pages of court documents in a Jeffrey Epstein
link lawsuit have been unsealed. The documents identify about one
hundred and seventy people whose names have come up in
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a legal battle between Virginia Roberts, one of his accusers,
and Glene Maxwell, his former girlfriend who in twenty twenty
one was convicted of trafficking girls to him for sex.
His former girlfriend, huh okay, I guess if you want
to call her that, and I guess that Jeffrey Domin
was a fantastic food critic. Those roughly one hundred and
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seventy Jeffrey Epstein associates had names under seal for different reasons.
Some were his wealthy friends, some were his victims, and
some were people whose names were merely mentioned in passing.
They were identified as Jay Doe in arguments over whether
their name should be made public or remain redacted. And
as far as Trump goes, his name should have never
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remained or adacted, just like any public figure who was
mentioned in these documents. And just to be clear once
again for the people who are in the back and
can't hear us, just because you're mentioned in documents doesn't
mean you were engaging in abuse. I have not seen
one bit of credible evidence that points me in the
direction of Bill Clinton abusing girls while he was with
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Jeffrey Epstein. And on the flip side of that, I
haven't seen any bit of credible evidence that Trump was either.
Now there are allegations getting thrown around this way, that way,
in every way, but what we do here is follow
the evidence, and where the evidence leads us, that's where
we end up. So as far as I'm concerned, I
haven't seen credible evidence in either of those directions. With
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that said, there is zero doubt that both dudes, at
separate periods of time were paling around with Jeffrey Epstein
Trump previously before they had their falling out. They were
definitely buddies. There is not even a doubt about it.
And as far as Clinton goes, forget it, that relationship
is as deep and as tight as any that Epstein
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has ever had. But I think the thing that gets
lost in all of that, with people trying to score
points on either side, is the fact that all of
these so called leaders, all of these so called people
that everybody looks up to, they were all hanging out
with this dude. And you can say, oh, they had
no idea, they didn't know what was going on, but
I'll counter that with they did. You don't have a
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guy like this hanging out with all these girls, all
these young girls, and say to yourself, you know what,
this is just normal behavior. Because unless you're a fellow
traveler and you're another sick bastard, this is not normal behavior.
If I show up somewhere to one of my friend's
islands and there's a bunch of young girls running around,
I'm gonna have some questions, and those girls better have
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some ID on them when I ask to see that ID.
And if they don't, and I find out that my
so called friend is bringing girls down to his island
for whatever purpose, my dude's about to become sharp food
because I'm taking them right to the shore and I'm
throwing his ass directly in the ocean. So save the
whole I didn't know what was going on, bullshit, for
somebody who wants to listen to it. Donald Trump is
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one of them. But until now it wasn't clear which
of the nearly two hundred dos as enumerated by US
District Judge Loretta Presca in the fifty page list he
actually was. An exhaustive review of the documents by a
business insider points to one no longer anonymous doe who
checks all the boxes, Dough one seventy four. Presca's list
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identifies Dough once four as a person whose association with
Epstein and Maxwell has been widely reported in the media already,
and his or her name came up during Maxwell's public
criminal trial. Former President Trump fits that bill as someone
who has a long history with a now dead pedalphile
and who said I wish her well when Maxwell was
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indicted on sex trafficking charges. And I had an episode
obviously after those comments. Imagine saying that with this disgusting,
vile beast facing indictment, I wish her well, considering all
the bombs he drops on everybody else, all of a
sudden he's out here wishing Galagne Maxwell well. You see,
my problem is much deeper than one party or the other.
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My problem is all of these dirt bags who have
no respect for any of us and who look at
all of us as nothing more than chattele And that
goes for Donald Trump too. This dude doesn't care about you.
He doesn't give a damn about any of us, just
like the rest of the so called political class. The
only time these people care about you is once every
four years. Trump also came up several times during Maxwell's
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criminal sex trafficking trial. One of his marra a Lago
employees testified about an Epstein victim working at mar A Lago.
Flight records made public on the trial show Trump flew
on Epstein's plane with his son Eric, and one victim
at the trial said Epstein name drop Trump, apparently to
demonstrate that he was connected to powerful people, and this
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was certainly his m O. Jeffrey Epstein would collect these
powerful people so that he can name job later on
and say, look, these are my friends, these are my people.
These are the people that I can call on for
favors if you don't do what I want you to do.
So when I talk about people enabling Jeffrey Epstein, when
I talk about people fortifying his image, this is the
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kind of stuff I mean, because if you're somebody who's poor, right,
you come from the other side of the tracks, a
broken home whatever, and you walk into a home that
is as opulent as Jeffrey Epstein's, and you see all
these pictures on the walls of all these politicians, famous people,
all the rest of it. You know right away that
this dude's wilding power. And you know right away that
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nobody's gonna believe anything you have to say about somebody
who's calling Trump his friend, or who has a picture
of Bill Clinton in a dress on the wall. So
it all plays in And when I say there's levels
to this shit, this is what I'm talking about. To
be sure, Trump's not the only well connected individual whose
association with Epstein and Maxwell has already been well documented
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in the media. Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, for example,
continue to make headlines. But in her ruling, Presca said
dough one seventy four's name came up in nine different
documents that were previously under seal or had their name redacted.
And just again to be clear, just because your name
is mentioned in these documents doesn't mean you were diddling girls.
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What it does mean, though, is you should probably answer
some questions about the time you spent hanging out with
Jeffrey Epstein, and if you avoid those questions, well, it's
going to compound your problems and people are going to
think you have something to hide. So my unsolicited advice,
if you find your name in these documents, get out
in front of it and let everybody know what the
deal is. As of publication time Monday night, three of
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those documents had not yet been completely unredacted, but Trump
does fit into the context of those documents. The other
six documents that had been unsealed all include Trump's name,
and no other DOE is listed as being named in
those same docket entries, So this shouldn't come as a surprise.
We all knew that Trump was going to be named
in this dump, and we all knew that he had
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that relationship with Epstein previously. And seeing all these names
of these prominent people in this document dump says to
me that the people that we're talking about, while they're
all gross as hell, they're just a symptom of a
much bigger problem. And the bigger problem is a system
that just doesn't care when people like this abuse people
like us. It's unclear why Trump thought to keep his
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identity under seal in the documents. In her December order
to unseal the names, Presca said some does didn't argue
to keep their identity secret. For Dough thirty six, who's
Bill Clinton? For example, Presco wrote that he didn't object
to having his name unsealed. Well, that's because the name's
out there already. If Bill Clinton really wanted to do
the right thing, he'd come out and answer all these
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questions himself and not refer us to some stupid ass
press release from twenty nineteen. For real, I'm going to
go back to that press release. This individual did not
raise any objection to unsealing, and thus did not meet
his or her burden of identifying interests that outweigh the
presumption of access with specificity, Presco wrote of Dough thirty six.
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Presca used the same language in a ruling for more
than one third of the doe on the list to
describe their lack of objection, but she did not include
that note in her ruling for Doe one seventy four,
instead writing that no interests that outweigh the assumption of
access have been identified with specifificity. This material should be
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unsealed in full, Presco ruled. An attorney for Trump did
not respond to her request for comment from Business insider.
Victims talked about Trump as one of Epstein's friends. The
unsealed documents are not all damning for Trump. Two of
the unsealed documents, the judge said, named dough one seventy four,
are from a deposition of Joanna Shoberg, who has accused
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Epstein of rape and Prince Andrew of Gropinger. The British
Royal has denied these claims. In the deposition, Schoberg denied
massaging Trump at any of Epstein's properties. She also described
flying to Atlantic City in Epstein's private jet, where they
visited one of Trump's casinos. Jeffrey said, great, we'll call
up Trump and will go to I don't recall the
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name of the casino, but we'll go to the casino,
Schoburg recalled in the deposition. Another document, which was fully
unsealed in twenty twenty two, is an already public twenty
sixteen New York Post article about the allegations against Epstein.
It mentions that Trump and Epstein were friends and spend
time at parties together in Palm Beach. The three other
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unsealed documents are motions and letters from lawyers representing Jeffrey
Epstein and Alan Dershowitz, where Trump is mentioned in passing. Mister.
Epstein's name has been widely linked in the press with
prominent individuals such as Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew.
His attorneys wrote an emotion arguing that he should not
be forced to testify in front of a jury, later
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adding his personal appearance at the trial of this case
would predictably be the focus of massive media attention of
both mainstream and gutter variety. Well, while that might be
the case, if there is something credible, then I don't
care who's named. That person needs to be held to account.
One unsealed document from a lawyer representing Dershowitz, seeks to
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discredit one of his accusers, Sarah Ransom, by saying she
has made unproven claims about possessing video footage of powerful
people having sex with girls in Epstein's homes. Ransom had
said that she had a friend who was one of
the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump,
and that the friend said she had sex with Trump
in Epstein's Manhattan mansion. So those are the allegations. The
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question is do you believe them? Me personally, When it
comes to these sick billionaires, nothing's out of the realm
of possibility, right, However, I haven't seen any evidence that
points us in this direction. Just like with Bill Clinton,
Sam goes for Donald Trump. She told me how she
kept going on about how he liked her pert nipples,
Ransom said, purporting the side of friend Donald Trump like
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flicking and sucking her nipples until they were raw. Ransom
later reccanted her claims about having the video footage in
her book Silence No More, Surviving My Journey to Helen Back.
She said she told the false story as sort of
an insurance policy, though she maintained that Jeffrey kept a
trove of service valence on every person who had ever
visited his properties. I was absolutely terrified that once I
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went public with my story, Jeffrey and Galane would find
me and kill me, Ransom wrote in her book. I
wanted to send them a message via the press. If
you age war on me, I will return fire by
releasing my evidence. That would be my leverage, my way
of protecting myself. While three of the nine documents naming
dough one seventy four have not yet been fully unsealed.
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The public docket includes versions with summer actions. It's easy
to see where Trump fits into them. They are all
transcripts of depositions from Ransom, Robert's, and Epstein's Palm Beach
housekeeper Juan Alessi, all of whom were asked about Epstein's
relationships with celebrities and other powerful people. So, again, besides
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what Sarah Ransom says her friend told her, there is
no documents here as far as court documents, claiming that
stuff like this went down. So it really comes down
to what do you believe and who do you believe?
I saw a guest at the house that were celebrities
unless he told the attorney deposing him, who did you
see at the house the attorney asked, unless he's answer,
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as of Monday evening remained redacted. All right, folks, well,
we're gonna be hearing a lot about this over the
next day or a couple of days about what Sarah
Ransom said or didn't say, what she saw or didn't see.
For me, though, the real problem is the fact that
all of our elite are caught up in this Maelstroom.
The fact that so many names of big time politicians
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and big time people are even brought up in this
is a problem. And at this point there's only one
way to fully sess out what went down, and that's
full transparency. No more redactions, no more hidden secrets, and
certainly no more obfuscation from the DOJ. All Right, folks,
obviously a ton more on the way. We're gonna start
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diving into that Sarah Ransom deposition as well, and it's
another one that's massive, so buckle up and get your
barf bags ready. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
According to Donald Trump, whom in an appearance on the
Lex Friedman podcast recently, he's open to releasing the Jeffrey
Epstein client list if he's reelected as the president of
the United States. The only problem is there is no
client list. That's the real problem here. Everybody wants to
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talk about a client list. They want to talk about
this that the other thing. Fine, great, but the real
five hundred pound ape in the room is the fact
that there's been people named, and those people have had
no repercussions at all. So what makes anyone believe that,
even if there was a list, that anyone on that
list would get into any trouble whatsoever. So it's all
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fine and well to talk about a list, But if
you really want to impress people, and if you really
want to pursue justice, there's one way to do it,
one clear path, and that is RICO charges for everybody involved.
But unfortunately that ship is sailed, and now everybody can
flex and say I did this, or I did that,
or I'm gonna do this. But the reality is, when
people had a chance to do something about what happened, here,
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nobody did shit, and that's because, in their opinion, whoever
was running the operation, well, the juice was worth the squeeze, right,
Whatever information Jeffrey Epstein was giving them, in their minds anyway,
was good enough to warrant him not going to prison
for what he was doing. And to people who might
not know anything about how the FBI works or how
the Department of Justice works, this is pretty common. The
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Department of Justice has made deals with some seriously demented
people throughout the years. So if you think for a
second that they wouldn't make a deal with a guy
like Jeffrey Epstein if he was providing compromant, if he
was providing information that they felt was worthwhile, then you
best believe he's going to be brought into the fold.
And in my opinion, after the debacle at Baron Stearns,
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he should have been arrested. Everybody else gets hemmed up,
but he finds a way to not go to jail.
He finds a way to not get indicted or convicted
or anything. Every single time people get in trouble around him,
he's the only one that doesn't get in trouble. Now,
for people who don't follow along with organized crime, and
they don't understand how moles work and how cis work.
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This is it, This is what happens. If you get
picked up and you're a CI short of murdering somebody,
they're gonna let you go because they think that you're
gonna help their greater case. So the idea is to
get somebody in, get them turned quickly, and have them
back out on the street within twenty four hours, so
nobody is wiser to what's going on. And in my opinion,
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there's no doubt that Epstein was turned when he got
nailed with this whole entire Barristerns thing. And that's why
I say all the time that Jeffrey Epstein was an asset,
not a CIA agent, not an agent of the macade,
but simply an asset like many many other people around
the globe. Now, some assets are more important than others, right,
And I don't think there's any dispute that Jeffrey Epstein
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would be a gigantic piece to the puzzle for these
intelligence agencies that are looking to collect compromunt on people.
Considering how many notable some people visited Jeffrey Epstein's residences
and for me. It's not just the island. A lot
of people get caught up on the island, and I
understand why, right, there's that era of secrecy there, etc.
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But he was abusing women at all of these properties
that he owned, from New Mexico all the way to Paris,
and I don't think enough is made out of all
of that. You know, people will be like, hey, I
never went to the island, but I was at his house.
What like, no abuse ever took place at the house.
So it's ridiculous to me when people use that as
an excuse. If you were spending any amount of time
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at any of Jeffrey Epstein's properties, then chances are you
saw some shit that was unacceptable. Today's article is from
the New York Post and the headline Trump suggests he'll
release Jeffrey Epstein client list if elected. I'd have no
problem with it. This article was authored by Victor Naba.
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Former President Donald Trump declared Tuesday that he'd have no
problem releasing more official files related to Jeffrey Epstein if elected,
including the Late Offenders client list. Here's what he should
be releasing. All the video tapes. Let's get all those
videotapes Let's see everything that was seized and taken from
Epstein's homes. Let's see all of the information that the
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FBI refuses to share with the public. Let's see all
of that. The client list is a pump fake folks.
Don't fall for it. Don't fall for the salacious bullshit.
That's all part of the plan to keep the real
story covered up. You know, like the stuff about Tom
Hanks having people on an island somewhere and how he
had this big part with Epstein. None of that was
ever true. None of that was ever even remotely true.
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But people were out here believing it. People were out
here reposting it. Meanwhile, not a word about Bill Clinton
and his deep relations with Jeffrey Epstein, which is one
hundred percent effect. Hardly a mention that Stacey Plaskt, a
sitting congresswoman for the Democrats, is being sued by Epstein's survivors.
Hardly any talk about George Mitchell or Bill Richardson. How
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much more selatious do you want it? See? What people
want is they want to be their enemies that get
caught up in this. That's why they're interested. It's not
about the pursuit of justice. For a lot of people. Instead,
it's how you can wield this as a political cudgel.
And for the Democrats, they've really made a mistake here
trying to use this as some sort of weapon, considering
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their deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein throughout the years. I
think it's a very very odd flex. You're gonna show
a picture of Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein during your
convention and then the next night trot out Bill Clinton,
like for real, for real, there's no doubt that Donald
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein used to be friendly, one hundred
percent of fact. You know what else is the fact though,
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that Bill Clinton and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was
much deeper than any relationship that Donald Trump ever had
with him. So if you're gonna come out and you're
gonna try and flex and show a picture of Jeffrey
Epstein with Donald Trump, you can't trot out Bill Clinton
the next night. Right, you would think people would hold
them accountable, but no, there's no accountability. It's all about winning.
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All that matters is the other side doesn't win, even
if that means throwing your support behind somebody like Bill
Clinton and acting like he has answered for his role
within the Jeffrey Epstein criminal enterprise, because he most certainly
is not. In fact, he's been caught lying about his
role numerous times. But where all these loudmouthed journalists that
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always talk about how they're holding people to account. Oh,
that's right, they're busy calling jd Vance weird. While that
might be the case, you know what else is weird
the fact that you have a sitting Democratic congresswoman who's
being sued by the Epstein survivors and you're not talking
about that. If you really wanted to flex, you would
have brought some of those survivors out during your convention.
But no, it's all about grandstanding. It's never about justice,
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and it's never about holding people to account. During an
appearance on the Lex Friedman podcast, Trump seventy eight insisted
that he never visited the pedophiles notorious private island where
scores the young women and underage girls were allegedly abused,
but that a lot of big people did well. There's
no doubt there's no reports of Donald Trump ever being
on the island one hundred percent of fact. Now. Bill Clinton,
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on the other hand, was seen on the island by
multiple eyewitnesses, and those eyewitnesses have won on the record
saying so. Now at the same time, just to be clear,
I haven't heard one bit of evidence that Bill Clinton
was abusing anybody while he was with Jeffrey Epstein. Haven't
heard any of that. But I also haven't heard any
answers for why Jeffrey Epstein made at least seventeen trips
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to the White House accompanied by young women when Bill
Clinton was a president. Why there's a picture of Bill
Clinton at Jeffrey Epstein's house while Bill Clinton's wearing a
blue dress and some pumps, that's hanging on the wall.
I'd like some answers about that, or about the fact
that Jeffrey Epstein gave the seed money to the Clintons
to get the Global Initiative off the ground. Maybe we
should talk about that a little bit. Or the fact
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that Alexander do Rossi, who is Glenn Maxwell's nephew, was
given a job at the State Department by Hillary Clinton.
Maybe we should talk about that. And those are just
a few of the questions I have. You see, none
of these questions have ever been answered. In fact, the
whitewash legacy, media hasn't even asked any of these questions, really,
and that right there should tell you everything you need
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to know about the whitewash that the legacy media has
been engaged in to keep Bill Clinton's name out of
the Jeffrey Epstein files and to keep Bill Clinton's name
out of the greater conversation. The big problem for them
is anybody who's been following along knows that that's impossible
because their relationship was tight, so tight in fact, that
Gallan Maxwell was a guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. I
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don't think, I mean, I'm not involved, the Republican nominee
for president said, when host Lex Friedman suggested that he
had shown some hesitation about releasing documents related to Epstein.
I never went to his island, fortunately, but a lot
of people did, Trump continued, and again, that's not really
the be all end, all right, just because you didn't
go to the island doesn't mean you didn't abuse anybody.
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But the same thing with Trump. There's no indication that
Trump was abusing anybody. People want to bring up the
lawsuit from Katie, but how much stock can you put
into a lawsuit when somebody is being unreliable, right, Really,
that's what you have to call it, because that's what
it was, unreliable testimony. And especially in the wake of
the ruling against Trump with Genie Carroll, you would think
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that if what Katie was saying is true, that she
would reignite this and get cracking. But that's not the case.
And after extensive investigation into those allegations, nothing has come
of it. And we're talking about people that are not
exactly friendly to Trump here that have been investigating this.
What you think people don't want their hands on something
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like this. So if the Katie Johnson allegations were true,
those allegations would be front and center, and you notice
that they're not. And like I always say around these parts,
we believe the evidence wherever the evidence takes us. It's
not a believe all women thing. It comes down to
the evidence. And if the evidence isn't there, then it's
not there. You can't go and make it up because
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it fits your narrative. So when we're talking about the
relationships and we're talking about who did what, there has
not been one credible allegation that's been made about Trump
or Bill Clinton abusing girls with Jeffrey Epstein With Bill Clinton,
it's more of the enabling, right, the connection, the interconnections
with finances, Epstein financing his stupid ass initiative, all this
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other stuff that makes Epstein put his hooks into Bill Clinton.
And if you don't see how that is a distinct
difference than his relationship with Trump, well, I can't help you.
When you can manipulate somebody into doing what you want
them to do because you have a financial hold over
them or compromand on them, the relationship dynamics are completely different.
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And there's zero doubt that Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein
were as tight as the day is long, whereas the
facts tell us that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were
once friendly, but they had a gigantic falling out and
that led to them no longer associating with each other.
The former president argued that Epstein was a good salesman
who had some nice assets that he'd throw around like islands.
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When asked why so many high powered executives, politicians, and
royalty have been linked to the multi millionaire pedophile, Well,
there's no doubt the dude could sell ice cubes to
an Eskimo. He was a bullshit artist of the top
degree and maybe one of the biggest and best bullshit
artists of all time. No wonder him and Bill Clinton
got along so well. But a lot of big people
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went to that island. Fortunately I was not one of them,
Trump reiterated. Epstein pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight
to pro carrying a child for prostitution and of soliciting
a prostitute. He was sentenced eighteen months in jail for
the crimes. Epstein was busted again in twenty nineteen, accused
of sexually abusing dozens of young girls in his Upper
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east Side townhouse and his waterfront mansion in Palm Beach, Florida,
between two thousand and two and two thousand and five.
And this is what I was talking about with the island.
While the island did play a big part, we can't
forget that this abuse was happening wherever this combat went.
The sixty six year old pedophile was found dead in
his Manhattan jail cell in August of twenty nineteen, and
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his death was ruled a suicide. He had faced up
to forty five years in prison. In January, unsealed core
documents filed in Epstein's accuser of Virginia Roberts twenty fifteen
defamation suit against the sex offenders, Madam Glene Maxwell. You
mean co conspirator, general, all around scusbag and fellow child abuser.
Right showed dozens of high profile names among the more
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than one hundred and seventy people with ties to Epstein. Yeah,
it's very interesting, isn't it, Trump responded when Friedman described
it as very strange that a complete list of Epstein's
clients that visited his little Saint James Island in the
Caribbean has not been made public. It probably will be,
by the way, Trump added, I'd certainly take a look
at it. What do they think there was like a
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sign in book, like a registry at the top of
the mountain when you get to the summit. The people
were coming here so they could remain private. There's no list.
There's no group of people who were, you know, part
of this John group that used to come and use
their services. That's not what this was. This wasn't Heidi Fliss.
The people that were being caught up in this were
people that were powerful people, whether they're world leaders or
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big shot bankers, whatever. Those are The kind of people
that were getting caught up in this. It wasn't just
you know, somebody signing up and coming to the island
to have relations with some girl. That's not what this was.
So I understand the essence of what Trump's talking about here,
and if there's any documentation, it should be released. But
I don't think getting people gassed up over a list
is the right way to go, because there is no list,
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not the kind of list people are talking about. I
think the closest thing you're going to ever have to
a list are the flight logs and the Black Book.
After noting that his desire to quickly release documents related
to the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy if elected,
Trump clarified that he'd be willing to do the same
with the Epstein files. But yeah, I'd be inclined to
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do the Epstein Trump said, I'd have no problem with it,
And look, if he sticks to his word, that's gravy
for me, certainly more than the other sides offering up.
In fact, what they're doing is Trott now Bill Clinton.
So I don't know how anyone who cares about justice
when it comes to Epstein could sit here and say, oh,
you know what, that's the right way to go. Let's
bring out Bill Clinton and shove him down everybody's throat,
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considering what everybody knows about him. Really not a good look,
especially if you're gonna try and use Epstein as a
cudgel to go after Trump. Like I always say, if
you have a dirty ass yard and it is just
an absolute disrepair, you have some nerve if you pop
your head over your wall and tell your neighbor that
he better trim his palm trees. And that's basically what
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we're seeing here. All right, folks, that's gonna do it
for this one. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box one.
And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So as we
continue to get new documents. When it comes to the
unseiling of the Epstein files, it's looking Likenald Trump is
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going to be named as dough one seventy four in
this dump. So today we have an article from Business
Insider talking about Donald Trump being named as Doe one
seventy four. So let's dive into this article and let's
see what's going on with good old Donnie boy Trump.
The headline it sure looks like Donald Trump was disguised
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as dough one seventy four in newly unsealed Jeffrey Epstein documents.
This article was authored by Jacob Shamsian. Over the past week,
thousands of pages of court documents in a Jeffrey Epstein
link lawsuit have been unsealed. The documents identify about one
hundred and seventy people whose names have come up in
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a legal battle between Virginia Roberts, one of his accusers,
and Glene Maxwell, his former girlfriend who in twenty twenty
one was convicted of trafficking girls to him for sex.
His former girlfriend, huh okay, I guess if you want
to call her that, and I guess that Jeffrey Domin
was a fantastic food critic. Those roughly one hundred and
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seventy Jeffrey Epstein associates had names under seal for different reasons.
Some were his wealthy friends, some were his victims, and
some were people whose names were merely mentioned in passing.
They were identified as Jay Doe in arguments over whether
their name should be made public or remain redacted. And
as far as Trump goes, his name should have never
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remained or adacted, just like any public figure who was
mentioned in these documents. And just to be clear once
again for the people who are in the back and
can't hear us, just because you're mentioned in documents doesn't
mean you were engaging in abuse. I have not seen
one bit of credible evidence that points me in the
direction of Bill Clinton abusing girls while he was with
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Jeffrey Epstein. And on the flip side of that, I
haven't seen any bit of credible evidence that Trump was either.
Now there are allegations getting thrown around this way, that way,
in every way, but what we do here is follow
the evidence, and where the evidence leads us, that's where
we end up. So as far as I'm concerned, I
haven't seen credible evidence in either of those directions. With
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that said, there is zero doubt that both dudes, at
separate periods of time were paling around with Jeffrey Epstein
Trump previously before they had their falling out. They were
definitely buddies. There is not even a doubt about it.
And as far as Clinton goes, forget it, that relationship
is as deep and as tight as any that Epstein
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has ever had. But I think the thing that gets
lost in all of that, with people trying to score
points on either side, is the fact that all of
these so called leaders, all of these so called people
that everybody looks up to, they were all hanging out
with this dude. And you can say, oh, they had
no idea, they didn't know what was going on, but
I'll counter that with they did. You don't have a
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guy like this hanging out with all these girls, all
these young girls, and say to yourself, you know what,
this is just normal behavior. Because unless you're a fellow
traveler and you're another sick bastard, this is not normal behavior.
If I show up somewhere to one of my friend's
islands and there's a bunch of young girls running around,
I'm gonna have some questions, and those girls better have
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some ID on them when I ask to see that ID.
And if they don't, and I find out that my
so called friend is bringing girls down to his island
for whatever purpose, my dude's about to become sharp food
because I'm taking them right to the shore and I'm
throwing his ass directly in the ocean. So save the
whole I didn't know what was going on, bullshit, for
somebody who wants to listen to it. Donald Trump is
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one of them. But until now it wasn't clear which
of the nearly two hundred dos as enumerated by US
District Judge Loretta Presca in the fifty page list he
actually was. An exhaustive review of the documents by a
business insider points to one no longer anonymous doe who
checks all the boxes, Dough one seventy four. Presca's list
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identifies Dough once four as a person whose association with
Epstein and Maxwell has been widely reported in the media already,
and his or her name came up during Maxwell's public
criminal trial. Former President Trump fits that bill as someone
who has a long history with a now dead pedalphile
and who said I wish her well when Maxwell was
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indicted on sex trafficking charges. And I had an episode
obviously after those comments. Imagine saying that with this disgusting,
vile beast facing indictment, I wish her well, considering all
the bombs he drops on everybody else, all of a
sudden he's out here wishing Galagne Maxwell well. You see,
my problem is much deeper than one party or the other.
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My problem is all of these dirt bags who have
no respect for any of us and who look at
all of us as nothing more than chattele And that
goes for Donald Trump too. This dude doesn't care about you.
He doesn't give a damn about any of us, just
like the rest of the so called political class. The
only time these people care about you is once every
four years. Trump also came up several times during Maxwell's
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criminal sex trafficking trial. One of his marra a Lago
employees testified about an Epstein victim working at mar A Lago.
Flight records made public on the trial show Trump flew
on Epstein's plane with his son Eric, and one victim
at the trial said Epstein name drop Trump, apparently to
demonstrate that he was connected to powerful people, and this
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was certainly his m O. Jeffrey Epstein would collect these
powerful people so that he can name job later on
and say, look, these are my friends, these are my people.
These are the people that I can call on for
favors if you don't do what I want you to do.
So when I talk about people enabling Jeffrey Epstein, when
I talk about people fortifying his image, this is the
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kind of stuff I mean, because if you're somebody who's poor, right,
you come from the other side of the tracks, a
broken home whatever, and you walk into a home that
is as opulent as Jeffrey Epstein's, and you see all
these pictures on the walls of all these politicians, famous people,
all the rest of it. You know right away that
this dude's wilding power. And you know right away that
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nobody's gonna believe anything you have to say about somebody
who's calling Trump his friend, or who has a picture
of Bill Clinton in a dress on the wall. So
it all plays in And when I say there's levels
to this shit, this is what I'm talking about. To
be sure, Trump's not the only well connected individual whose
association with Epstein and Maxwell has already been well documented
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in the media. Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton, for example,
continue to make headlines. But in her ruling, Presca said
dough one seventy four's name came up in nine different
documents that were previously under seal or had their name redacted.
And just again to be clear, just because your name
is mentioned in these documents doesn't mean you were diddling girls.
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What it does mean, though, is you should probably answer
some questions about the time you spent hanging out with
Jeffrey Epstein, and if you avoid those questions, well, it's
going to compound your problems and people are going to
think you have something to hide. So my unsolicited advice,
if you find your name in these documents, get out
in front of it and let everybody know what the
deal is. As of publication time Monday night, three of
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those documents had not yet been completely unredacted, but Trump
does fit into the context of those documents. The other
six documents that had been unsealed all include Trump's name,
and no other DOE is listed as being named in
those same docket entries, So this shouldn't come as a surprise.
We all knew that Trump was going to be named
in this dump, and we all knew that he had
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that relationship with Epstein previously. And seeing all these names
of these prominent people in this document dump says to
me that the people that we're talking about, while they're
all gross as hell, they're just a symptom of a
much bigger problem. And the bigger problem is a system
that just doesn't care when people like this abuse people
like us. It's unclear why Trump thought to keep his
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identity under seal in the documents. In her December order
to unseal the names, Presca said some does didn't argue
to keep their identity secret. For Dough thirty six, who's
Bill Clinton? For example, Presco wrote that he didn't object
to having his name unsealed. Well, that's because the name's
out there already. If Bill Clinton really wanted to do
the right thing, he'd come out and answer all these
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questions himself and not refer us to some stupid ass
press release from twenty nineteen. For real, I'm going to
go back to that press release. This individual did not
raise any objection to unsealing, and thus did not meet
his or her burden of identifying interests that outweigh the
presumption of access with specificity, Presco wrote of Dough thirty six.
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Presca used the same language in a ruling for more
than one third of the doe on the list to
describe their lack of objection, but she did not include
that note in her ruling for Doe one seventy four,
instead writing that no interests that outweigh the assumption of
access have been identified with specifificity. This material should be
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unsealed in full, Presco ruled. An attorney for Trump did
not respond to her request for comment from Business insider.
Victims talked about Trump as one of Epstein's friends. The
unsealed documents are not all damning for Trump. Two of
the unsealed documents, the judge said, named dough one seventy four,
are from a deposition of Joanna Shoberg, who has accused
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Epstein of rape and Prince Andrew of Gropinger. The British
Royal has denied these claims. In the deposition, Schoberg denied
massaging Trump at any of Epstein's properties. She also described
flying to Atlantic City in Epstein's private jet, where they
visited one of Trump's casinos. Jeffrey said, great, we'll call
up Trump and will go to I don't recall the
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name of the casino, but we'll go to the casino,
Schoburg recalled in the deposition. Another document, which was fully
unsealed in twenty twenty two, is an already public twenty
sixteen New York Post article about the allegations against Epstein.
It mentions that Trump and Epstein were friends and spend
time at parties together in Palm Beach. The three other
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unsealed documents are motions and letters from lawyers representing Jeffrey
Epstein and Alan Dershowitz, where Trump is mentioned in passing. Mister.
Epstein's name has been widely linked in the press with
prominent individuals such as Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew.
His attorneys wrote an emotion arguing that he should not
be forced to testify in front of a jury, later
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adding his personal appearance at the trial of this case
would predictably be the focus of massive media attention of
both mainstream and gutter variety. Well, while that might be
the case, if there is something credible, then I don't
care who's named. That person needs to be held to account.
One unsealed document from a lawyer representing Dershowitz, seeks to
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discredit one of his accusers, Sarah Ransom, by saying she
has made unproven claims about possessing video footage of powerful
people having sex with girls in Epstein's homes. Ransom had
said that she had a friend who was one of
the many girls that had sexual relations with Donald Trump,
and that the friend said she had sex with Trump
in Epstein's Manhattan mansion. So those are the allegations. The
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question is do you believe them? Me personally, When it
comes to these sick billionaires, nothing's out of the realm
of possibility, right, However, I haven't seen any evidence that
points us in this direction. Just like with Bill Clinton,
Sam goes for Donald Trump. She told me how she
kept going on about how he liked her pert nipples,
Ransom said, purporting the side of friend Donald Trump like
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flicking and sucking her nipples until they were raw. Ransom
later reccanted her claims about having the video footage in
her book Silence No More, Surviving My Journey to Helen Back.
She said she told the false story as sort of
an insurance policy, though she maintained that Jeffrey kept a
trove of service valence on every person who had ever
visited his properties. I was absolutely terrified that once I
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went public with my story, Jeffrey and Galane would find
me and kill me, Ransom wrote in her book. I
wanted to send them a message via the press. If
you age war on me, I will return fire by
releasing my evidence. That would be my leverage, my way
of protecting myself. While three of the nine documents naming
dough one seventy four have not yet been fully unsealed.
(27:28):
The public docket includes versions with summer actions. It's easy
to see where Trump fits into them. They are all
transcripts of depositions from Ransom, Robert's, and Epstein's Palm Beach
housekeeper Juan Alessi, all of whom were asked about Epstein's
relationships with celebrities and other powerful people. So, again, besides
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what Sarah Ransom says her friend told her, there is
no documents here as far as court documents, claiming that
stuff like this went down. So it really comes down
to what do you believe and who do you believe?
I saw a guest at the house that were celebrities
unless he told the attorney deposing him, who did you
see at the house the attorney asked, unless he's answer,
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as of Monday evening remained redacted. All right, folks, well,
we're gonna be hearing a lot about this over the
next day or a couple of days about what Sarah
Ransom said or didn't say, what she saw or didn't see.
For me, though, the real problem is the fact that
all of our elite are caught up in this Maelstroom.
The fact that so many names of big time politicians
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and big time people are even brought up in this
is a problem. And at this point there's only one
way to fully sess out what went down, and that's
full transparency. No more redactions, no more hidden secrets, and
certainly no more obfuscation from the DOJ. All Right, folks,
obviously a ton more on the way. We're gonna start
(28:51):
diving into that Sarah Ransom deposition as well, and it's
another one that's massive, so buckle up and get your
barf bags ready. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.
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