August 27, 2022 • 46 mins
The legendary Minnie Mouse joins us (the incredibly talented voice actor who provices her voice) Kaitlyn Robrock to talk about Kaitlyn's career and her amazing story of how she took over stewardship of the voice of Minnie Mouse.
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This is the dragon Con Pregame Showpowered by Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space
Science Center, where you can learnthe science behind the fiction. Joining us
on the dragon Con Pregame Show.You know her from Amphibia, Mister Pickles,
Thundercat's Roar, multitude of TV shows, movies, and video games since
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twenty ten. In twenty nineteen,however, she became the voice of many
Mouse. You may have heard ofher. Caitlin Roebrock joins us. Hey,
Caitlin, Hi, I'm excited aboutdragon Con. I'm always excited about
dragon Con. I've been covering thisconvention for over twenty years. It's always
a great time. But I'm especiallyexcited when I get to sort of see
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the experience of a first timor atdragon Con. And I know this is
your first time at dragon Con,so I'm looking forward. What have you
heard ad I want to see?Well, yes, I've mishard. Well
there's lots there'll be dragons around,There'll be lots of things around. UM.
Dragon Con is it is its ownbeast, and I guess that beast
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may be a dragon, but it'sis it is different to other conventions.
UM, and I know you haven't. You haven't done a lot on the
convention scene. So this is yoursecond convention. This is my second convention
as a guest. I did SaltLake City Fan X last year and Dragon
cons my first big con five days, first time in Georgia. It's it's
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gonna be so exciting. And I'vealways gone to Comic Con down in San
Diego as a as a condoer forthe last two decades, so I know
how to work upon But now Iget to kind of visit people and meet
people and see what makes them happy. So this will be able. Laugh
well. I can tell just fromour conversation before the interview that you're a
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You're a fan of a lot ofthings, and I know that you're going
to fit right in at Dragon Con. I can tell just words of advice.
You need to hydrate. This isa long haul kind of convention and
it really does go all hours ofthe day and night. It doesn't really
slow down at all, so you'llhave to pace yourself. I'm just gonna
warn you that from the beginning,gotcha lots of water, get my snacks,
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take a breather every now and then. That's it. That's it.
Okay, Well, I want totalk because we've had on this show Bill
Farmer voice of Goofy and Pluto.We've had Tony and Selmo voice of Donald
Duck, now Many Mouse. We'reworking our way through the list, and
this one is a big one forme. I'm really excited to have you
on the show. I love talkingto voice actors, and I really love
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seeing the way you guys interact withfans at conventions like Dragon Con. It's
just a really unique way for youguys to connect with fans. Yeah,
voice actors are really cool. That'swhat I was doing for years. I
would go see cartoon voiceover panels atcomic Con and I would meet the actors
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afterwards, say hello, kind ofgets to know them, and that really
actually helped to jump start my careerby making those connections and seeking out that
type of mentoring advice. I knowone of those connections that you made was
Jess Harnell. Yes, Jeff ismy biggest cheerleader. He I've known Jess
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twenty years now. I met himthrough Rob Paulson, who I also had
met at Comic Con, and itwas about twenty years with Rob, definitely
fifteen or more with Jess for sure, and we had talked about, you
know, my dreams and goals ofvoiceover. He was always so encouraging.
He gave me his phone number.I could call him at any time if
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I had a question or a worryor advice. And he's always been forthcoming
and he really helped me get myvery first voice silver gig. Actually,
well, I was going to askyou because I understand handcuffs are involved in
you getting that first voice role.They were, and they were fuzzy.
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So what it happened was down atComic Con they were having a panel for
the Drawn Together movie. And DrawnTogether was an animated reality show on Comedy
Central that took different archetypal characters fromthe Disney Princess, the Internet, flash
animation, the video game character,the superhero character, all kinds of archetypes
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of animated characters and they put himin a house for a reality show and
it was The cast was phenomenal.It was Jess, Harnell, Cree,
Summer, Tara Strong, Jack Plotnick, Oh my goodness, and Planking his
name. He's fantastic. James,I'll say James like I know him.
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But it was a beautiful. Itwas it was. I mean, it's
an adult show for or not forchildren. I was in college when it
premiered, so I was laughing myhead off. And they had a panel
for a direct to DVD movie theywere going to do about five years after
the show had been canceled, andwe went to the panel to support Jess
and to see what was it about. And that the end of the panel,
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they said, We're going to doa little contest and the winner of
the contest will be drawn into themovie. And everyone started cheering, and
I heard them stay and throw ina voice line or two, and I
looked at my friends, like,you all heard that, right, A
voiceline like a voice job. Thatcould be something you could tap hardly with
it, or you could springboard.You can do something with that. And
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so I raised my hand and theypicked one guy over here. They picked
one guy over there, and thenmy friend Diana, blessed her heart,
she screens out pick a check andit catches everyone's attention, and Jess sees
me and I'm waving my hands nepotism, you love me right, and he
dicks me. So I get togo up and we start thinking like,
okay, what could this What couldthis be? Do we have to do
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our best impression of a character?Do we have to re enact the scene?
What's this challenge? And they flatout told us the challenge was to
stay handcuffed to the creator of theshow until the last one standing is remains.
Now we're like, okay, yeah, all right. So they get
out a couple pairs with the fuzzyhandcuffs that they got from some respectable store,
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I'm sure, and they handcuffed usall. Today's one of the creators,
and we all have a gas.The CON's over, and then we
didn't really think beyond that, likewe're going home, right, No,
the other two gentlemen in our littlelineup were gung ho. They're staying until
the bitter end because one of themhad everything he needed for the weekend in
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his backpack and he was just kindof popping from hotel room to hotel rooms
so he didn't care where he endedup. And the other guy lived in
downtown San Diego and this house isright over there. It's okay, and
there's little old me like I wantto go to where my parents are.
There's a bed and shower and food, and I don't want to be here,
but I have to. You gottayou gotta do sacrifice if you want
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to get rewards. And I justthought, okay, I'll I'll stick it
out as long as I can,and let's see. I spoke to Jess
while everyone's kind of at this littleafter party, and it's like, I
can do this role for you.I plom it. I don't know how
else to convince them, but Ithink we all agree this kind of has
to end at some point, andJess's like, go marry I got Then
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he spoke to David Natt and wherethe creators have trown together, and said,
hey, I can vouch for Caitlin. She's been coming to con for
here, she met all these differentvoice actors, she's taking classes, workshops,
whinning, she's really working hard toachieve this, and I believe she's
got you know what it takes tomake to make this work. And they're
like, okay, we'll give aturn to get her out of here and
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get everyone out, and eventually,you know, we all we all basically
left at that and I'm like,okay, we had fun, and they
drew all of us into the movie. So in an audience scene, for
a particular character who replaced the drawntogether show. I shan't say her name,
but in the audience you can seeus being drawn in there and I'm
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wearing a pink shirt and a whitehat, and on Worth wearing a black
top, and I forget the othergentleman's name, but we're all there,
and I got to do the voicelinesand it was a little old lady.
It was a bar chick, andit was Smurfett and those were very fun.
That's that's how I got my veryfirst gig. I and I it
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projected into nick that Matt and Davenext show, mister Pickle us Pickles killing
me Coffin Dodgers, and I didthat callback and someone heard me during the
callback and sent me on to misterPickles, and I auditioned for mister Pickles.
Not was my first meeting show.So that's how it all got started.
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It's I mean, I'm sure therehave been other careers that started with
you know, handcuffs, fuzzy handcuffs, but I mean, this is the
clean version of it. And it'sa great. Yeah, it's a great
start to to your career. Andit's remarkable to think that from that story,
you eventually land this i'm sure dreamrole. But before we get to
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before we get to many, andI really want to talk about many,
but I want to talk about whatmade you want to become a voice actor
to begin with, because you hadobviously spend some time, uh, you
know, talking with Jess, talkingwith Rob, Rob a friend of the
show. Also we uh he wason the show last year and we had
a great time with him on theshow as well as at dragon Con.
We've enjoyed spending time with him.And I mean, you're right, you're
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talking about people that really want tohelp, encourage and breed sort of more
voice actors. They're very unselfish withtheir time. I don't I don't know
Jess well, but he's he's beento dragon Con obviously, and and uh,
you know those two are kind ofattached at the hip for obvious reasons.
But I mean you're talking about peoplereally do encourage those sorts of things
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as far as you becoming a voiceactor, but your origins were wanting to
do that go back to Robin Williams. Yes, I saw Robin Williams in
Hook. My brother convinced me tosee that before we saw Beauty and the
Beast, and because it came outthe same year, so we went and
saw Hook and it was the firstmovie I saw with Robin Williams that I
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was cognitant of who this man is. This guy's an actor and he's making
me laugh. That's what I wantto do. I want to do what
he's doing and make other people laugh, or make them cry, or just
make them feel some kind of emotionaloutburst. Because I'm a very empathic person,
so I'll cry at the drop ofa hat, but I definitely want
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to give to others what I receivedby feeling those types of emotions, just
because make you feel so alive.And then the next year I saw him
in a Laddin as teen, andthat's kind of how I learned. Oh,
voiceover is also acting, it's itsown thing. This is the same
guy, it's the same voice.This is a job you could do this
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He is doing it right in frontof me, and he's making me laugh.
So I knew for sure, Okay, I want to be a voice
actor. I want to do whathe does. And I grew up in
San Diego, so we didn't havethere's not a lot of deck. Then
there wasn't any like voiceover things Icould seek out. At my age was
all very much la based, andwe couldn't really do junior theater too much.
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We were frugal, family and makingwe had so many things to keep
track of. But my first thoughtwas, okay, well, all of
these Disney movies that I love somuch, all of them have Broadway actors
in them, So I clearly haveto be on Broadway. So I took
acting classes, musical theater classes.I majored in that in college. And
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my goal was to move to NewYork, do a few shows on odd
Way, and then you know,move back and do voice over. And
that's not how it works. Youdon't just go and do shows. That's
a whole other career, a wholeother world of classes, acting, dancing,
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singing. Living in New York,you have to work two jobs just
to stay there. What are thearchetypes that are in the shows? What's
your body type? What's your voicetype? Are their roles for you?
People have been studying for years?Are they able to make it big?
There was so much that went intoit, and I just realized this isn't
something I can just jump in andassume I can do. This is real
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quality work. This stuff people's dreamof and work so hard towards. And
if I'm going to do that,I have to take my time with it
and learn from the ground up.So I moved back home because we lived
there through a college program, soI was able to kind of get that
taste. And that's how I knewmy classmates want this so much more.
They're hungry for it. They're gettingat six am for auditions before classes.
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They're taking extra classes out of theirown dime. When our daily classes have
completed. I'm going to see shows. They're practicing to be in those shows.
So I thought, Okay, I'mgoing to move back home. We're
going to start from the ground upand see where we can go. And
at that point, the Internet wasallowing a lot more opportunities to voiceover,
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so there were classes you can take. There's little schools you can go to
learn the basics or just to seedo you have what it takes intrinsically to
pursue This is the it factor thereand it needs just polishing and cultivating and
growth. And that's how I foundBob Bergen. So Bob Bergin teaches a
class I believe it's eight weeks andthe years the waiting list is four years,
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So get on it now. Thatway, when your turn comes around,
you've got four years of growth behindyou. And I took it twice.
Back then you were the wait listwas only a year, and so
I took it twice so I couldlearn stra hard how to do it.
And Bob's another mentor of mine.I could ask you any question, I
could call him at anytime. He'sopen to listening to auditions, demos.
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It's just that that community is soimportant and that support system really helped guide
me, and that's how That's howI really got started pursuing voice over in
earnest was starting with Bob and takingworkshops and classes constantly. So you obviously
were, you know, hungry forthe knowledge, how do I do this?
What's the process? What you know? What's involved in doing this?
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But surely before that you were alreadyyou know, if you were trying to
make people laugh, you were probablyalready doing impressions and accents and mimicking things.
And is that where it started foryou? Oh? Yeah, A
lot of it was. You know, I got in trouble in school because
if like I would mimic or doimpressions on my classmates because I got bullied
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a lot, and like, Idon't want to be a bully back,
but I also have pride. Ican't just be quiet as much as my
parents said, don't do anything,it'll just let it die down. Like
I can't. I have to dosomething. So if a bully would say,
like, well, I'm better thanyou. I finished my homework,
I would berta minic as I getit, I nag and just you know,
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do the same cadence and pitch,which is a good skill for voice
matching and dubbing. I would justuse my powers for evil. And of
course, you know, then itescalates and like, well it was all
vocal at least nothing physical, andor you'd you hear your accents or dialects
and you just recreate your favorite momentsfrom TV shows and movies and quote.
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I quote stuff all the time soobscure or so well known, and I
always know, if you get theobscure references, you're my people. But
it really kind of hit home afterChicken Runs came out, which is a
phenomenal movie. May I'd say Ilove it. Everyone everyone in that movie
is just great. But the Scottishchicken, that's what. It was always
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so fun to just do that accentto make my dad laugh. You know
what happened to my wing oudio tobe doing. And you've broken the boon
now and you have to said it. But I did a little, we
did whatever, and then it goes, what, oh, what doesn't matter,
She's Scottish, It's okay. Sojust mimicking dialects and an accents or
family a mangers who live fast oror my cousins who lived after our are
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or just you know, great grandparentsand all who live in who further Wisconsin
or nosing areas and just oh,you know, it's just having a good
time, just mimicking and impressioning,hearing voices on radio's, your favorite TV
shows. Because even if you're borrowingothers, work the way you speak it,
and you work it will be itsown creation. It's inspired by but
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it is uniquely you and you probablymaybe back then you weren't doing it yet,
but I'm sure now you're sort ofcataloging those as you think of a
new voice as you go along.Back then you were probably just doing it,
doing it for fun, and nowyou're sort of thing, Oh,
I might be able to use thisfor an audition, or oh yeah,
absolutely I will. I would havea little tape recorder, so if I
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were driving to my classes, youknow, I was working at Disneyland,
and I'll work eight am to fourthirty and then immediately get on the road
for a two an hour and ahalf two hour drive to LA to get
dinner and then do a three hourclass. So I would listen to podcasts,
audiobooks, commercials, and I wouldhave a little tape recorder, and
if I'm mimicking what I'm hearing orI'm making up my own stuff and I
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make myself laugh with something I heard, I immediately re report it to hold
onto it and see, Okay,what could I use to this, how
could I expand on this? Orin think in a lot of classes and
workshops that they would give you copiesof your work through MP threes. I
don't think it's very common anymore,but back then you were able to do
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that. So I would take snippetsof my work in the classes to see
like, oh I really like this, I want to see what more I
can do with this, Or Iwas inspired by other classmates, and like,
that's a great voice for this guy. I wonder how it would sound
in a girl's voice. Or toshow my agent like, hey, I've
been practicing little old ladies. Here'sthe sample I did. Here's the casting
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director, guest guest director of thenight. Here's their response to it.
May I please start auditioning from littleold ladies. So that was that's work
on my in for my agent,because my agent works for me by you
know, giving me the auditions.But I have to work for my agents
and give them and what as mostjust myself as I can so they can
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serve it so they can offer meto the buyer. So if I'm not
reading for little old ladies, Igot to work on that. If I'm
not reading for teenagers, I gotto work on that. And I would
constantly update my agent with my progressso they can see, Hey, she's
she's working on herself. She's she'staking her weak spots and strengthening them.
Let's have her audition for these.That way I can truly say I've got
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arranged from a baby to an oldwoman. I love it. I love
it. You mentioned your family.You've been living in San Diego and I
love to ask this question when Italked to voice actors, and I've had
some Asian actors as guests on theshow, uh Stephen jan or mingna Win.
And it's a similar question that usuallyget kind of similar responses. And
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that's why I really like asking youguys and them this question. What did
your family think when you decided thiswas going to be your career. They
were very supportive, and they theyknew like, oh, she's always doing
voices, she's goofing around, she'swanted to be an actor since Hook and
Aladdin, so that the passions there, and if it's still there, you
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know, ten five, ten,fifteen years later, it's a real passion
and it should be it should becultivated as such. So they always said,
like, you know, pick acareer that makes you happy. That's
not a job that you're just yeah, a job you can work and pay
the rent, But a career issomething that you should be passionate about that
can sustain you and give you thatstability. So and acting is a risk,
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yeah, absolutely, And and onceyou've got sort of that passion,
and once you've got that support systemaround you to help push you that way,
it really does make things easier,doesn't it. It does. I'm
very privileged in that way. Iwas very lucky and a lot of they
definitely helped support me. Um,you know, they gave me monthly cash
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for work for classes, you know, and I would always say, like,
this is the class I'm going totake, Here's why I'm going to
take it, here's the price.Whatever they were able to offer me,
I accepted. I discovered later howmuch of a gift it was that my
father paid for my college education withpersonal checks. Like he worked hard,
and he worked good paying jobs tosupport himself and my mom and us.
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And mom was a teacher, sheworked hard. So I really understood the
gift that, you know, nothaving college debt helped me out with as
well. And we knew how tobe frugal, you know, I lived
with roommates help with rents. Iwould wear the same clothes for years on
end. I rarely went shopping becauseI take footcare in my clothes and I
love them. I don't need somethingfashionable or something super form fitting unless it's
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like a nice outfit for voiceover jobsor interviews. And you know, you
learn how to cook and make yourfood sprints. So I definitely wanted to
work hard and sacrifice all that Icould safely to achieve this and take that
time. Some people they may findsuccess within a few years. Mine absolutely
took like fifteen years because I hadto go slow in order to survive and
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keep my job. Don't quit yourday job, so I definitely kept working.
Yeah, and your day job atDisneyland ultimately certainly put you in a
position where you were able to heara certain voice a lot and started to
whether you were consciously doing it atfirst or not, but you started to
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mimic this very famous voice, yes, and it eventually it eventually became an
opportunity, that's right, an opportunityto audition for that role. So you
were working at Disneyland and you werehelping guests and facilitating them opportunities I guess
to meet characters and things, andyou were able to hear many a lot,
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Yes, working at Disneyland, somany people who went to UCI with
me or at Disneyland. That waskind of the job to do. So
my second europe college, I washired at Disneyland as as an entertainment host
to character host, so we wouldgo out with our character friends. Make
sure everyone mind up, have yourbooks and cameras ready, you know,
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take turns. Be fair, facilitatesthem so you can meet our characters.
And it was like two thousand andfive or so. The Christmas parade comes
in that town square and that's oneof our play rooms, like where where
we can rest in between our visits. And I was having lunch and the
parades coming in, and it happenedso often you memorize the parade too,
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you just do. You hear itso often? So the ice skating float
came in with Nicky and Minnie,and NICKI said, um, you know,
isn't this so much fun? Me? And then without a beat,
since I knew her too, Ijust did my best high voice of Mini
saying ki oh chet to wow.And a co worker of mine was very
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startled and said, oh my goodness, you sound just like her. That's
wow. And I thought, doI really that's that could be something?
Okay, okay, So then youknow, thanks, You find whatever you
can on YouTube or scene park,audio from parades or shows like Fantasmic.
She's not in it, but whodoesn't love Fantastmic And just listen back to
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all of these audio samples and repeat, repeat, repeat, mimic the cadence
and the nuances, the little things. That's what I really started focusing on
when I knew the sound was there. Let's focus on her scoops, she
scoops up, she scoops down.There's a nasality to her when she says
her ends and her ends, Andhow does she react to Nikki? How
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does she react to Goofy? Howdoes she react to Donald? How does
she react to Daisy? Like everyperson, she's got a point of view
in a relationship with How is shegoing to speak to them? How does
she speak to a little figaro,her guinnea. These are all things every
character and actor has to figure out. That way their reeds come off as
real and warm and organic and connectingwith your audience. So I made sure
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I was thinking about all those aspectsof her and practicing, and I'm a
I'm a soprano, and I hadtaken some opera in college, so singing
like Minnie, she's very Vaudeville,and she has a lot of that fun
Morville in her voice, and it'sjust it's a fun caricature as well as
a real character to our audience.So I just practiced and practiced and practice
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and practiced, and you were obviouslydoing your version of Ruci's performance as many
and obviously when she passed away twentynineteen, that's when the audition process came
along. And what was it likeauditioning for it? I mean, was
this one of those things where youthought, I'm gonna try and we're gonna
see what happens, or did yougo into it like with a real positive
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energy and say I'm gonna get this. It was It was very sudden for
everybody, and because I thought forsure we'd have ten fifteen more years with
her, and it just happened verysuddenly. And it was something where like,
well, the people involved in pastingthat I'm familiar with, they all
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know who I am, they allknow my agents, they know my reputation,
they know my work ethics, andI believed, like among all of
them, okay, it's pretty strong. I feel it's very positive. I've
never heard anything negative that I couldn'tcorrect, or maybe as a misunderstanding,
I felt secure that everyone liked me. So, for lack of a better
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term, I m Disney had hiredme the year before as felicious son do
on I have Fabia, So Iknew, Okay, the Disney team knows
who I am. They they've hiredme, they trust me, they know
my work. I had a callbackfor Baby Piggy, which was such a
thrill, like I love Piggy somuch, and the callback my first callback,
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and so they knew. They knewI could do like voice matching,
they knew I could do those sortof things. And the role went to
another lovely Nady And it helped alittle in hindsight because one person had said,
like, well, what I heardwas while you kind of did while
you did it, you did achievethe role. You sounded too much like
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Minny, and that's not something thatthey can really foster. And it's like,
oh goles a lot of sense.Okay, I have closure now.
That is so much better to know. So they were aware a little bit
of that possibility as well, butI still didn't want to tell anybody.
I only told my agent and Itold one other person in the community.
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So after Rusie's passing, there wasa couple of weeks of time to mourn,
to grieve and to kind of cometo that acceptance, and then the
audition went out just as a regularaudition to the agencies in LA, and
I knew the team, so Ipracticed all week. I had a couple
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of friends come over to listen tothe reference files. They had listened to
my repeating of them. When wehad to read some lines that have no
reference at all, like you haveto create okay, how with many sounds
saying these things? What would shedo? How would she perform them?
So those we focused on, andthen we had a song to sing,
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Bicycle built for two. You mighthear me being a little froggy right now.
We just did a session today,so I'm a little beaches. But
we did our song and I rentedout a studio in LA to make sure
it was being recorded professionally. Thesinging was matched to the music, and
I sent it to my aunt,my agent, and I said, like
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you, is there any way youcould listen to this before the do date
which is next week on Tuesday.That way, if there's anything I need
to fix or oof fop or doanything on I can do so with time
to spare. And my agent listenedto it and she said, don't touch
it, leave it exactly as itis. Do not touch it. This
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is perfection in her opinion, Sowe we sent it off. Who knows
how long it'll take to go throughall of who knows how many girls auditioned.
It was just unknown numbers. Sojust kind of you've done it,
set it out of your mind,forget it, and move on. And
then a week later I was workingon Frozen two and I got the call
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of like, hey, Disney wouldlike to see you tomorrow. Let's make
it happen. So we have afirst callback and it was well. We
were very much driving home a lotof specific nuances and a lot of repetitives
work to show like this is somethingyou can do right away. It wasn't
hours of practice that became the auditions. You've got to get something in the
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first two or three teenths that waywe can move on. And that goes
for any character archetype, for anyvoice matching you're doing. So we really
wanted to work it to make sureit's coming off across in my directible.
If there's anything to shrill or tooslightly off center, can we get it
back on center? And that way, over time it will be permanent.
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That way you grow to know it. So we worked on it and most
anxious week in my life. Thiswas Oh man, this was a Tuesday.
So all day Wednesday, Thursday,Friday, I'm checking email, I'm
checking phone logs, I'm checking voicemailin case the call didn't take it but
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a voicemail did. It was justlike, what do I even do with
myself? I don't know what todo. I'm agonizing. And the D
twenty three XBO was that weekend Iwent for I always go. It's so
fun. It's so fun to goand immerse yourself. And I met some
friends there and they're like, oh, we heard, we heard this is
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happening and nothing's been decided yet.We'll just tell you that, but we're
aware of you. It was like, how did you find out. I'm
like, oh, we have oursources. They weren't part of casting,
but they had heard. So itreally helped relax me that, Okay,
nothing has been decided, no newsis good news. Things seemed positive.
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Let's enjoy the rest of the weekend. We got this and then I got
a call and the following he waslike, oh, Disney would like you
to come in for a second callback, and all the tensions just left my
body. Point by strings were cut, like, okay, we've got this.
Two auditions, two callbacks. Herewe go. We do the callback.
It's exactly the same as the firstcallback, and in neither one.
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We didn't do any scenes. AndI double check, like, you know,
if you want to work on thesong, no no, no,
no song, fine, we don'tneed that. Oh okay, we do
it. We do the callback,and at the very end, the head
of character Gooidson's Rick was saying,all right, thank you so much,
Kaitlyn. We're gonna send you toDisney Television next week. Have a safe
drive home, thank you, thankyou very much everybody. And I'm driving
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home and oh, let's great,a third callback. I don't have to
stress about it. I don't.It's the next leg of the journey with
whoever else is with me. Andthen the following week comes along and I
go in and they give me paperwork like favorite work. We don't have
favorite work at callbacks. And theyoung ladies, oh, no money,
it's just a gig, didn't theytell you? So that's what he was
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telling you when he told you youwere going to Disney Television. That's what
he was telling you. You'd gottenthe job oh more or less. But
he didn't actually say it right,And when I checked in with my agents
she didn't actually say it either,but that we were aware, like,
all right, was this in great? Honey, I'm so proud of you.
You're you're heading to Disney next week. I'll check in the latter.
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I gotta go take care of thepapwork. You your agents always working,
they're always busy, And it wasthe gig and we scare at each other.
It's like, don't worry, wecan sell this out afterwards. They're
ready for you to go on in. So I didn't have any time to
freak out or second guess or doubtor had it. But I also didn't
get that much fantasized moment where Iwould get the call and be told and
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I would tastefully cry and it wouldbe this whole thing. It was like,
I get to work. Here wego, Wow, okay, So
I walk in. So you havethat, you have, you have that
brief moment you're walking in and thisis beginning. So at that moment,
like does lose yourself by M andM start playing in your head, like
how do you get yourself amped todo this right away? Well, I
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walk through the door and it's it'sa stunt moment of like I got it,
like this, This isn't a joke. This isn't one knows that we
actors get for roles. We goout after probably even more than ninety nine
point nine percent of roles you readbefore. You don't blup. It's like,
but I get to have this,this is true, my literal dream
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came true. I'm allowed to havethat. And I walk in through the
doorway and there's ten fifteen people there. And usually in our session, for
any actor, you'll have yourself,You'll have your vocal director, you have
your engineer. Oftentimes you have anote taker to help kind of keep track
of things, and oftentimes you'll havethe creator of the show wants to be
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into like piece the process, seehow his vision wants to go. So
anywhere from two to four people,it's very very common. And there was
over ten in this room and I'venever seen them before. Half of them
i've never seen since. Some ofthem were wearing a really fancy suit.
And I look around and like,I don't know any of you. I
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know Dave right Hi, and Iknow Jen Trucio, Hi, I know
Kelly Warren. Hi, I don'tknow anybody else, So like, all
right, well start acting, kid, So I like to start acting.
Hi, guys, thank you somuch for having me here. I'm so
excited. Let's do it. I'mterrified. I'm terrified, and I'm shaking
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him my boots and like take it. Oh, I'm so what. I'm
safe and feel don't feel don't I'msafe. So we get in the booth
and I'm just walking up to thenight home Man oh Man, oh Man,
oh Man, oh Man, ohMan, Man and Dave, head
of Disney Television. Since testing,he popped to Stead and I, um,
I don't think we knew they wereall going to be here. But
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you'll be fine, don't We neverpass fun. That's why you're here.
You got it? Okay, hereyou day and solid. All right,
here we go. Let's focus onyour script, focus on your voice.
Director. We got through a coupleof the projects that needed to get done
on a very tight deadline. Wefocus on those first. I gave them
a few alternate ideas they had trackedthe joke or two to show them fun
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and the hits. But you know, like the kids say, and it
was a costly time, and Iwe finished, and I thanked everybody and
wished them a safe drive home.I headed out, signed all the pay
forward, said thank you to everybody, start driving home and start crying in
the best way. I called mymom, I called the two friends who
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had worked with me on the audition, who were like chopping their fingernails this
whole time with me. And thenI went home and got twenty dollars worth
the chip Boatley and bench Walk atelevision show. I don't remember what.
I think it was parting right,but that was my treat for myself.
That is a it's a remarkable story. I mean to be just thrown into
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it, and it's very much.You had that moment of sink or swim
right away and you swim, yeah, like you walk the walk. Now
you better darn well talk to talk. And that's another thing. Like that's
why I didn't tell anyone I wasauditioning, and I very rarely told anyone
that was my tree. I didn'twant a reputation of like, oh,
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you're done into the role. Someone'sgot it, like no, no,
no, I want to the farand far future. I love was doing
it. I wouldn't ever want totake anything away. I just he wants
the chances to show what I cando when that opportunity comes and let the
chips fall where they made. Let'syou know, let fate decide. So
I kept it to myself. Jobnew, very new. Um, some
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certain people knew. But I alsodidn't talk about it often outside of that,
so the audience came around. Ididn't tell anybody. It's remarkable when
when you stepped into this role,you and Brett kind of coming in obviously
at about the same time. UM. And when I talked with Bill and
with Tony about stepping into those roles, and that group was all sort of
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cast at the same time. Uh, you know, they were trying to
trying to do a reset with thosevoices and trying to get everybody there for
that consistency. Obviously, you andBrett come in, Brett the voice of
Mickey now or one of the voicesof Mickey now, but the primary voice,
and the two of you coming inat about the same time and stepping
into those roles. UM. AndI know Bill and Tony talked about the
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importance of sort of preserving I thinkI heard you use the word steward being
a good steward of this character thatyou've you've taken, and I just I
love that as a concept because that'sthat's what you are as you're you're holding
this position for a while. SoI certainly hope so Wayne had it for
about thirty two years, but atthe time of his passing, and Brucie
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also had its thirty two or thirtythree years. I'm also like, I'm
a very amateur Disney historian. Ilove learning about Disney history, especially poor
voiceovers, just anything. So Idefinitely knew like Wayne had gotten in seventy
seven, Brucie had gotten in ineighty six eighty seven, and Bill and
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Tony had book the roles, andit was like, we're starting from the
ground up. Here are the voiceswe'd like to cultivate and work with for
the long haul in that way thatthey're recognizable, the integrity is there,
that branding is there. We're ableto keep an eye on all aspects of
this phenomenon that's still with us yearsafter Waltz past, years after the company
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has been established. It's some ofthe most connected characters around the world,
right, and everybody knows And whenI say you're holding onto this role for
a while. I mean, obviously, these characters will outlive all of the
people who voiced them. I mean, that's how significant these characters are.
It's a legacy, it's it's it'sI'm so glad to be a part of
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that and to be a steward andan ambassador of sorts for this character and
the company that she's a part of. And you know that, you know,
we're continuing to deliver that magic andthat connection to the audience that I
myself has always wanted to do,and not just for any but for original
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characters, and to show that littlepiece of you to the world that'll live
on after you're gone, to makethat impact. I've always wanted to be
someone who made an impact, toknow that I wasn't a waste, that
I wasn't a blip, and we'reall blips in some ways, but at
least now I know, like,well, I'm here and I'm present,
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and I'm part of something so muchbigger than myself, and I'm so honored
and proud to do that, togive that gift to others that was given
to me, and for as long, you know, keeping good health,
be positive the friendly, work hard, stay strong, and just you know,
we'll see how long we go withher. And who knows that the
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next person may be out there somewhere. They may not have been born yet,
but whoever it is, I hopethey have just as much love and
passion for the work as I do. And I know that your story has
to inspire. I feel like we'redoing a little bit of a masterclass in
voice acting in a lot of ways. Maybe not quite masterclass, but we're
running through a lot of the fundamentalsof this and I think for folks that
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are interested in this as a career, there's a lot here that you have
shared with us that will help folksmaybe down the line. I do want
to ask, though, if Icould possibly speak with many. Is she
nearby? Could she maybe jump onthe phone and I could ask a few
questions. Yeah, I'll go getI think she's given CC a little bit
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of lunch. I'll be right back. I'll go get Hello. Oh,
it's so great. It's so greatto have you here on the on the
pregame show. And I know thatyou're going to be coming with Caitlin to
to dragon Con next weekend. Whatare you what are you looking forward to
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the most with with meeting your fans. Oh, I'm so excited to feel
like everyone might be wearing and peopleare so creative season and I'm an actual
but I'm so excited to see therewill definitely be cosplaying dragons. We see
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those all the time and they're nottoo scary, so you don't have to
worry about that. I know youhave this very special connection with Caitlin uh,
and I just wonder if how weresome of the ways that you and
she are alike, Like, whatare some of the character qualities that you
guys share so much? Come backwith me, But she also knows how
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much we love everybody want to showthat love to the war. I met
you many many years ago when Iwas a kid on my first trip to
Disney World, and I was ableto introduce my sons to you. A
few years ago, we came intoChef Mickey. They took a photo with
you. I'm sure that you rememberJake and Luke. Well, they gave
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you a kiss on the cheek onboth sides, and we happened to notice
when we got home we were goingthrough the photos, Mickey saw it all
go down. We're not sure aboutthe look he had on his face when
he saw the double kiss that theboys were giving to you. But we
were just wanting to make sure thatyou didn't get any grief from Mickey about
that double kiss from the boys.Oh of course, no, actually wanted
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me to come home with it.Of course, you always excited, and
I know that he knows what it'slike to be a mega star and have
people wanting to meet you, becauseyou guys are really this super couple,
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aren't you. Oh? Yes,we are for so much and many were
looking forward to seeing you at DragonCon. Anything that you want to say
to your fans that were thinking aboutcoming and they might be coming up to
to see you in Caitlin, Andif you could put Caitlyn back on the
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phone, Caitlin, anything that you'dlike to say. I know you've got
fans of some of your other projects. I know that you just said goodbye
to Amphibia this year earlier this year, just a few months ago, so
I know you've got fans of someof your other projects. Anything that you
want to say before you get toyour very first dragon Con to folks thinking
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about coming up. Oh man,I am so excited to meet everybody.
Go. We've got some more showscoming in the works. I just can't
slain with i am just yet,but hopefully they're just as big and beautiful
as Amphibia was. And I'm reallyloving the Agletsko love out there. By
the way, I'm Agletsko's mother onthe show, and now we see where
she gets it from. So I'mjust so excited to meet everybody, and
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i want to hear everyone's stories.Caitlyn Robock, thank you so much,
thank you, thank you for havingme. And that'll do it for the
twenty twenty two edition of the dragonCon pregame show. Again, thank you
to Columbus State University's Coca Cola SpaceScience Center and doctor Sean Kruzen for dropping
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in on today's show. Thanks toDan Carroll as well as the rest of
the media relations team at dragon Con. Could not do this show without you
guys, Sam, Aaron, Gregall the team there in the interview room
at dragon Con. You guys alwaystake really great care of me over the
course of every single dragon Con weekend. Thanks Matt Piper from Open Hand.
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You guys are doing the Lord's work. I really enjoyed learning about your organization
and looking forward to seeing you atdragon Con. Thanks again to Caitlin Roebrock
for spending some time with us,and of course the incomparable Mini Mouse.
Great chatting with her. Thank youfor listening, and I will see you
at dragon Con. This has beenthe dragon Con pregame show, powered by
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This is the dragon Con Pregame Showpowered by Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space
Science Center, where you can learnthe science behind the fiction. Joining us
on the dragon Con Pregame Show.You know her from Amphibia, Mister Pickles,
Thundercat's Roar, multitude of TV shows, movies, and video games since
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twenty ten. In twenty nineteen,however, she became the voice of many
Mouse. You may have heard ofher. Caitlin Roebrock joins us. Hey,
Caitlin, Hi, I'm excited aboutdragon Con. I'm always excited about
dragon Con. I've been covering thisconvention for over twenty years. It's always
a great time. But I'm especiallyexcited when I get to sort of see
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the experience of a first timor atdragon Con. And I know this is
your first time at dragon Con,so I'm looking forward. What have you
heard ad I want to see?Well, yes, I've mishard. Well
there's lots there'll be dragons around,There'll be lots of things around. UM.
Dragon Con is it is its ownbeast, and I guess that beast
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may be a dragon, but it'sis it is different to other conventions.
UM, and I know you haven't. You haven't done a lot on the
convention scene. So this is yoursecond convention. This is my second convention
as a guest. I did SaltLake City Fan X last year and Dragon
cons my first big con five days, first time in Georgia. It's it's
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gonna be so exciting. And I'vealways gone to Comic Con down in San
Diego as a as a condoer forthe last two decades, so I know
how to work upon But now Iget to kind of visit people and meet
people and see what makes them happy. So this will be able. Laugh
well. I can tell just fromour conversation before the interview that you're a
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You're a fan of a lot ofthings, and I know that you're going
to fit right in at Dragon Con. I can tell just words of advice.
You need to hydrate. This isa long haul kind of convention and
it really does go all hours ofthe day and night. It doesn't really
slow down at all, so you'llhave to pace yourself. I'm just gonna
warn you that from the beginning,gotcha lots of water, get my snacks,
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take a breather every now and then. That's it. That's it.
Okay, Well, I want totalk because we've had on this show Bill
Farmer voice of Goofy and Pluto.We've had Tony and Selmo voice of Donald
Duck, now Many Mouse. We'reworking our way through the list, and
this one is a big one forme. I'm really excited to have you
on the show. I love talkingto voice actors, and I really love
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seeing the way you guys interact withfans at conventions like Dragon Con. It's
just a really unique way for youguys to connect with fans. Yeah,
voice actors are really cool. That'swhat I was doing for years. I
would go see cartoon voiceover panels atcomic Con and I would meet the actors
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afterwards, say hello, kind ofgets to know them, and that really
actually helped to jump start my careerby making those connections and seeking out that
type of mentoring advice. I knowone of those connections that you made was
Jess Harnell. Yes, Jeff ismy biggest cheerleader. He I've known Jess
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twenty years now. I met himthrough Rob Paulson, who I also had
met at Comic Con, and itwas about twenty years with Rob, definitely
fifteen or more with Jess for sure, and we had talked about, you
know, my dreams and goals ofvoiceover. He was always so encouraging.
He gave me his phone number.I could call him at any time if
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I had a question or a worryor advice. And he's always been forthcoming
and he really helped me get myvery first voice silver gig. Actually,
well, I was going to askyou because I understand handcuffs are involved in
you getting that first voice role.They were, and they were fuzzy.
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So what it happened was down atComic Con they were having a panel for
the Drawn Together movie. And DrawnTogether was an animated reality show on Comedy
Central that took different archetypal characters fromthe Disney Princess, the Internet, flash
animation, the video game character,the superhero character, all kinds of archetypes
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of animated characters and they put himin a house for a reality show and
it was The cast was phenomenal.It was Jess, Harnell, Cree,
Summer, Tara Strong, Jack Plotnick, Oh my goodness, and Planking his
name. He's fantastic. James,I'll say James like I know him.
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But it was a beautiful. Itwas it was. I mean, it's
an adult show for or not forchildren. I was in college when it
premiered, so I was laughing myhead off. And they had a panel
for a direct to DVD movie theywere going to do about five years after
the show had been canceled, andwe went to the panel to support Jess
and to see what was it about. And that the end of the panel,
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they said, We're going to doa little contest and the winner of
the contest will be drawn into themovie. And everyone started cheering, and
I heard them stay and throw ina voice line or two, and I
looked at my friends, like,you all heard that, right, A
voiceline like a voice job. Thatcould be something you could tap hardly with
it, or you could springboard.You can do something with that. And
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so I raised my hand and theypicked one guy over here. They picked
one guy over there, and thenmy friend Diana, blessed her heart,
she screens out pick a check andit catches everyone's attention, and Jess sees
me and I'm waving my hands nepotism, you love me right, and he
dicks me. So I get togo up and we start thinking like,
okay, what could this What couldthis be? Do we have to do
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our best impression of a character?Do we have to re enact the scene?
What's this challenge? And they flatout told us the challenge was to
stay handcuffed to the creator of theshow until the last one standing is remains.
Now we're like, okay, yeah, all right. So they get
out a couple pairs with the fuzzyhandcuffs that they got from some respectable store,
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I'm sure, and they handcuffed usall. Today's one of the creators,
and we all have a gas.The CON's over, and then we
didn't really think beyond that, likewe're going home, right, No,
the other two gentlemen in our littlelineup were gung ho. They're staying until
the bitter end because one of themhad everything he needed for the weekend in
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his backpack and he was just kindof popping from hotel room to hotel rooms
so he didn't care where he endedup. And the other guy lived in
downtown San Diego and this house isright over there. It's okay, and
there's little old me like I wantto go to where my parents are.
There's a bed and shower and food, and I don't want to be here,
but I have to. You gottayou gotta do sacrifice if you want
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to get rewards. And I justthought, okay, I'll I'll stick it
out as long as I can,and let's see. I spoke to Jess
while everyone's kind of at this littleafter party, and it's like, I
can do this role for you.I plom it. I don't know how
else to convince them, but Ithink we all agree this kind of has
to end at some point, andJess's like, go marry I got Then
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he spoke to David Natt and wherethe creators have trown together, and said,
hey, I can vouch for Caitlin. She's been coming to con for
here, she met all these differentvoice actors, she's taking classes, workshops,
whinning, she's really working hard toachieve this, and I believe she's
got you know what it takes tomake to make this work. And they're
like, okay, we'll give aturn to get her out of here and
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get everyone out, and eventually,you know, we all we all basically
left at that and I'm like,okay, we had fun, and they
drew all of us into the movie. So in an audience scene, for
a particular character who replaced the drawntogether show. I shan't say her name,
but in the audience you can seeus being drawn in there and I'm
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wearing a pink shirt and a whitehat, and on Worth wearing a black
top, and I forget the othergentleman's name, but we're all there,
and I got to do the voicelinesand it was a little old lady.
It was a bar chick, andit was Smurfett and those were very fun.
That's that's how I got my veryfirst gig. I and I it
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projected into nick that Matt and Davenext show, mister Pickle us Pickles killing
me Coffin Dodgers, and I didthat callback and someone heard me during the
callback and sent me on to misterPickles, and I auditioned for mister Pickles.
Not was my first meeting show.So that's how it all got started.
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It's I mean, I'm sure therehave been other careers that started with
you know, handcuffs, fuzzy handcuffs, but I mean, this is the
clean version of it. And it'sa great. Yeah, it's a great
start to to your career. Andit's remarkable to think that from that story,
you eventually land this i'm sure dreamrole. But before we get to
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before we get to many, andI really want to talk about many,
but I want to talk about whatmade you want to become a voice actor
to begin with, because you hadobviously spend some time, uh, you
know, talking with Jess, talkingwith Rob, Rob a friend of the
show. Also we uh he wason the show last year and we had
a great time with him on theshow as well as at dragon Con.
We've enjoyed spending time with him.And I mean, you're right, you're
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talking about people that really want tohelp, encourage and breed sort of more
voice actors. They're very unselfish withtheir time. I don't I don't know
Jess well, but he's he's beento dragon Con obviously, and and uh,
you know those two are kind ofattached at the hip for obvious reasons.
But I mean you're talking about peoplereally do encourage those sorts of things
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as far as you becoming a voiceactor, but your origins were wanting to
do that go back to Robin Williams. Yes, I saw Robin Williams in
Hook. My brother convinced me tosee that before we saw Beauty and the
Beast, and because it came outthe same year, so we went and
saw Hook and it was the firstmovie I saw with Robin Williams that I
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was cognitant of who this man is. This guy's an actor and he's making
me laugh. That's what I wantto do. I want to do what
he's doing and make other people laugh, or make them cry, or just
make them feel some kind of emotionaloutburst. Because I'm a very empathic person,
so I'll cry at the drop ofa hat, but I definitely want
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to give to others what I receivedby feeling those types of emotions, just
because make you feel so alive.And then the next year I saw him
in a Laddin as teen, andthat's kind of how I learned. Oh,
voiceover is also acting, it's itsown thing. This is the same
guy, it's the same voice.This is a job you could do this
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He is doing it right in frontof me, and he's making me laugh.
So I knew for sure, Okay, I want to be a voice
actor. I want to do whathe does. And I grew up in
San Diego, so we didn't havethere's not a lot of deck. Then
there wasn't any like voiceover things Icould seek out. At my age was
all very much la based, andwe couldn't really do junior theater too much.
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We were frugal, family and makingwe had so many things to keep
track of. But my first thoughtwas, okay, well, all of
these Disney movies that I love somuch, all of them have Broadway actors
in them, So I clearly haveto be on Broadway. So I took
acting classes, musical theater classes.I majored in that in college. And
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my goal was to move to NewYork, do a few shows on odd
Way, and then you know,move back and do voice over. And
that's not how it works. Youdon't just go and do shows. That's
a whole other career, a wholeother world of classes, acting, dancing,
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singing. Living in New York,you have to work two jobs just
to stay there. What are thearchetypes that are in the shows? What's
your body type? What's your voicetype? Are their roles for you?
People have been studying for years?Are they able to make it big?
There was so much that went intoit, and I just realized this isn't
something I can just jump in andassume I can do. This is real
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quality work. This stuff people's dreamof and work so hard towards. And
if I'm going to do that,I have to take my time with it
and learn from the ground up.So I moved back home because we lived
there through a college program, soI was able to kind of get that
taste. And that's how I knewmy classmates want this so much more.
They're hungry for it. They're gettingat six am for auditions before classes.
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They're taking extra classes out of theirown dime. When our daily classes have
completed. I'm going to see shows. They're practicing to be in those shows.
So I thought, Okay, I'mgoing to move back home. We're
going to start from the ground upand see where we can go. And
at that point, the Internet wasallowing a lot more opportunities to voiceover,
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so there were classes you can take. There's little schools you can go to
learn the basics or just to seedo you have what it takes intrinsically to
pursue This is the it factor thereand it needs just polishing and cultivating and
growth. And that's how I foundBob Bergen. So Bob Bergin teaches a
class I believe it's eight weeks andthe years the waiting list is four years,
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So get on it now. Thatway, when your turn comes around,
you've got four years of growth behindyou. And I took it twice.
Back then you were the wait listwas only a year, and so
I took it twice so I couldlearn stra hard how to do it.
And Bob's another mentor of mine.I could ask you any question, I
could call him at anytime. He'sopen to listening to auditions, demos.
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It's just that that community is soimportant and that support system really helped guide
me, and that's how That's howI really got started pursuing voice over in
earnest was starting with Bob and takingworkshops and classes constantly. So you obviously
were, you know, hungry forthe knowledge, how do I do this?
What's the process? What you know? What's involved in doing this?
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But surely before that you were alreadyyou know, if you were trying to
make people laugh, you were probablyalready doing impressions and accents and mimicking things.
And is that where it started foryou? Oh? Yeah, A
lot of it was. You know, I got in trouble in school because
if like I would mimic or doimpressions on my classmates because I got bullied
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a lot, and like, Idon't want to be a bully back,
but I also have pride. Ican't just be quiet as much as my
parents said, don't do anything,it'll just let it die down. Like
I can't. I have to dosomething. So if a bully would say,
like, well, I'm better thanyou. I finished my homework,
I would berta minic as I getit, I nag and just you know,
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do the same cadence and pitch,which is a good skill for voice
matching and dubbing. I would justuse my powers for evil. And of
course, you know, then itescalates and like, well it was all
vocal at least nothing physical, andor you'd you hear your accents or dialects
and you just recreate your favorite momentsfrom TV shows and movies and quote.
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I quote stuff all the time soobscure or so well known, and I
always know, if you get theobscure references, you're my people. But
it really kind of hit home afterChicken Runs came out, which is a
phenomenal movie. May I'd say Ilove it. Everyone everyone in that movie
is just great. But the Scottishchicken, that's what. It was always
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so fun to just do that accentto make my dad laugh. You know
what happened to my wing oudio tobe doing. And you've broken the boon
now and you have to said it. But I did a little, we
did whatever, and then it goes, what, oh, what doesn't matter,
She's Scottish, It's okay. Sojust mimicking dialects and an accents or
family a mangers who live fast oror my cousins who lived after our are
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or just you know, great grandparentsand all who live in who further Wisconsin
or nosing areas and just oh,you know, it's just having a good
time, just mimicking and impressioning,hearing voices on radio's, your favorite TV
shows. Because even if you're borrowingothers, work the way you speak it,
and you work it will be itsown creation. It's inspired by but
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it is uniquely you and you probablymaybe back then you weren't doing it yet,
but I'm sure now you're sort ofcataloging those as you think of a
new voice as you go along.Back then you were probably just doing it,
doing it for fun, and nowyou're sort of thing, Oh,
I might be able to use thisfor an audition, or oh yeah,
absolutely I will. I would havea little tape recorder, so if I
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were driving to my classes, youknow, I was working at Disneyland,
and I'll work eight am to fourthirty and then immediately get on the road
for a two an hour and ahalf two hour drive to LA to get
dinner and then do a three hourclass. So I would listen to podcasts,
audiobooks, commercials, and I wouldhave a little tape recorder, and
if I'm mimicking what I'm hearing orI'm making up my own stuff and I
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make myself laugh with something I heard, I immediately re report it to hold
onto it and see, Okay,what could I use to this, how
could I expand on this? Orin think in a lot of classes and
workshops that they would give you copiesof your work through MP threes. I
don't think it's very common anymore,but back then you were able to do
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that. So I would take snippetsof my work in the classes to see
like, oh I really like this, I want to see what more I
can do with this, Or Iwas inspired by other classmates, and like,
that's a great voice for this guy. I wonder how it would sound
in a girl's voice. Or toshow my agent like, hey, I've
been practicing little old ladies. Here'sthe sample I did. Here's the casting
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director, guest guest director of thenight. Here's their response to it.
May I please start auditioning from littleold ladies. So that was that's work
on my in for my agent,because my agent works for me by you
know, giving me the auditions.But I have to work for my agents
and give them and what as mostjust myself as I can so they can
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serve it so they can offer meto the buyer. So if I'm not
reading for little old ladies, Igot to work on that. If I'm
not reading for teenagers, I gotto work on that. And I would
constantly update my agent with my progressso they can see, Hey, she's
she's working on herself. She's she'staking her weak spots and strengthening them.
Let's have her audition for these.That way I can truly say I've got
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arranged from a baby to an oldwoman. I love it. I love
it. You mentioned your family.You've been living in San Diego and I
love to ask this question when Italked to voice actors, and I've had
some Asian actors as guests on theshow, uh Stephen jan or mingna Win.
And it's a similar question that usuallyget kind of similar responses. And
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that's why I really like asking youguys and them this question. What did
your family think when you decided thiswas going to be your career. They
were very supportive, and they theyknew like, oh, she's always doing
voices, she's goofing around, she'swanted to be an actor since Hook and
Aladdin, so that the passions there, and if it's still there, you
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know, ten five, ten,fifteen years later, it's a real passion
and it should be it should becultivated as such. So they always said,
like, you know, pick acareer that makes you happy. That's
not a job that you're just yeah, a job you can work and pay
the rent, But a career issomething that you should be passionate about that
can sustain you and give you thatstability. So and acting is a risk,
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yeah, absolutely, And and onceyou've got sort of that passion,
and once you've got that support systemaround you to help push you that way,
it really does make things easier,doesn't it. It does. I'm
very privileged in that way. Iwas very lucky and a lot of they
definitely helped support me. Um,you know, they gave me monthly cash
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for work for classes, you know, and I would always say, like,
this is the class I'm going totake, Here's why I'm going to
take it, here's the price.Whatever they were able to offer me,
I accepted. I discovered later howmuch of a gift it was that my
father paid for my college education withpersonal checks. Like he worked hard,
and he worked good paying jobs tosupport himself and my mom and us.
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And mom was a teacher, sheworked hard. So I really understood the
gift that, you know, nothaving college debt helped me out with as
well. And we knew how tobe frugal, you know, I lived
with roommates help with rents. Iwould wear the same clothes for years on
end. I rarely went shopping becauseI take footcare in my clothes and I
love them. I don't need somethingfashionable or something super form fitting unless it's
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like a nice outfit for voiceover jobsor interviews. And you know, you
learn how to cook and make yourfood sprints. So I definitely wanted to
work hard and sacrifice all that Icould safely to achieve this and take that
time. Some people they may findsuccess within a few years. Mine absolutely
took like fifteen years because I hadto go slow in order to survive and
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keep my job. Don't quit yourday job, so I definitely kept working.
Yeah, and your day job atDisneyland ultimately certainly put you in a
position where you were able to heara certain voice a lot and started to
whether you were consciously doing it atfirst or not, but you started to
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mimic this very famous voice, yes, and it eventually it eventually became an
opportunity, that's right, an opportunityto audition for that role. So you
were working at Disneyland and you werehelping guests and facilitating them opportunities I guess
to meet characters and things, andyou were able to hear many a lot,
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Yes, working at Disneyland, somany people who went to UCI with
me or at Disneyland. That waskind of the job to do. So
my second europe college, I washired at Disneyland as as an entertainment host
to character host, so we wouldgo out with our character friends. Make
sure everyone mind up, have yourbooks and cameras ready, you know,
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take turns. Be fair, facilitatesthem so you can meet our characters.
And it was like two thousand andfive or so. The Christmas parade comes
in that town square and that's oneof our play rooms, like where where
we can rest in between our visits. And I was having lunch and the
parades coming in, and it happenedso often you memorize the parade too,
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you just do. You hear itso often? So the ice skating float
came in with Nicky and Minnie,and NICKI said, um, you know,
isn't this so much fun? Me? And then without a beat,
since I knew her too, Ijust did my best high voice of Mini
saying ki oh chet to wow.And a co worker of mine was very
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startled and said, oh my goodness, you sound just like her. That's
wow. And I thought, doI really that's that could be something?
Okay, okay, So then youknow, thanks, You find whatever you
can on YouTube or scene park,audio from parades or shows like Fantasmic.
She's not in it, but whodoesn't love Fantastmic And just listen back to
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all of these audio samples and repeat, repeat, repeat, mimic the cadence
and the nuances, the little things. That's what I really started focusing on
when I knew the sound was there. Let's focus on her scoops, she
scoops up, she scoops down.There's a nasality to her when she says
her ends and her ends, Andhow does she react to Nikki? How
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does she react to Goofy? Howdoes she react to Donald? How does
she react to Daisy? Like everyperson, she's got a point of view
in a relationship with How is shegoing to speak to them? How does
she speak to a little figaro,her guinnea. These are all things every
character and actor has to figure out. That way their reeds come off as
real and warm and organic and connectingwith your audience. So I made sure
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I was thinking about all those aspectsof her and practicing, and I'm a
I'm a soprano, and I hadtaken some opera in college, so singing
like Minnie, she's very Vaudeville,and she has a lot of that fun
Morville in her voice, and it'sjust it's a fun caricature as well as
a real character to our audience.So I just practiced and practiced and practice
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and practiced, and you were obviouslydoing your version of Ruci's performance as many
and obviously when she passed away twentynineteen, that's when the audition process came
along. And what was it likeauditioning for it? I mean, was
this one of those things where youthought, I'm gonna try and we're gonna
see what happens, or did yougo into it like with a real positive
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energy and say I'm gonna get this. It was It was very sudden for
everybody, and because I thought forsure we'd have ten fifteen more years with
her, and it just happened verysuddenly. And it was something where like,
well, the people involved in pastingthat I'm familiar with, they all
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know who I am, they allknow my agents, they know my reputation,
they know my work ethics, andI believed, like among all of
them, okay, it's pretty strong. I feel it's very positive. I've
never heard anything negative that I couldn'tcorrect, or maybe as a misunderstanding,
I felt secure that everyone liked me. So, for lack of a better
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term, I m Disney had hiredme the year before as felicious son do
on I have Fabia, So Iknew, Okay, the Disney team knows
who I am. They they've hiredme, they trust me, they know
my work. I had a callbackfor Baby Piggy, which was such a
thrill, like I love Piggy somuch, and the callback my first callback,
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and so they knew. They knewI could do like voice matching,
they knew I could do those sortof things. And the role went to
another lovely Nady And it helped alittle in hindsight because one person had said,
like, well, what I heardwas while you kind of did while
you did it, you did achievethe role. You sounded too much like
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Minny, and that's not something thatthey can really foster. And it's like,
oh goles a lot of sense.Okay, I have closure now.
That is so much better to know. So they were aware a little bit
of that possibility as well, butI still didn't want to tell anybody.
I only told my agent and Itold one other person in the community.
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So after Rusie's passing, there wasa couple of weeks of time to mourn,
to grieve and to kind of cometo that acceptance, and then the
audition went out just as a regularaudition to the agencies in LA, and
I knew the team, so Ipracticed all week. I had a couple
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of friends come over to listen tothe reference files. They had listened to
my repeating of them. When wehad to read some lines that have no
reference at all, like you haveto create okay, how with many sounds
saying these things? What would shedo? How would she perform them?
So those we focused on, andthen we had a song to sing,
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Bicycle built for two. You mighthear me being a little froggy right now.
We just did a session today,so I'm a little beaches. But
we did our song and I rentedout a studio in LA to make sure
it was being recorded professionally. Thesinging was matched to the music, and
I sent it to my aunt,my agent, and I said, like
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you, is there any way youcould listen to this before the do date
which is next week on Tuesday.That way, if there's anything I need
to fix or oof fop or doanything on I can do so with time
to spare. And my agent listenedto it and she said, don't touch
it, leave it exactly as itis. Do not touch it. This
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is perfection in her opinion, Sowe we sent it off. Who knows
how long it'll take to go throughall of who knows how many girls auditioned.
It was just unknown numbers. Sojust kind of you've done it,
set it out of your mind,forget it, and move on. And
then a week later I was workingon Frozen two and I got the call
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of like, hey, Disney wouldlike to see you tomorrow. Let's make
it happen. So we have afirst callback and it was well. We
were very much driving home a lotof specific nuances and a lot of repetitives
work to show like this is somethingyou can do right away. It wasn't
hours of practice that became the auditions. You've got to get something in the
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first two or three teenths that waywe can move on. And that goes
for any character archetype, for anyvoice matching you're doing. So we really
wanted to work it to make sureit's coming off across in my directible.
If there's anything to shrill or tooslightly off center, can we get it
back on center? And that way, over time it will be permanent.
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That way you grow to know it. So we worked on it and most
anxious week in my life. Thiswas Oh man, this was a Tuesday.
So all day Wednesday, Thursday,Friday, I'm checking email, I'm
checking phone logs, I'm checking voicemailin case the call didn't take it but
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a voicemail did. It was justlike, what do I even do with
myself? I don't know what todo. I'm agonizing. And the D
twenty three XBO was that weekend Iwent for I always go. It's so
fun. It's so fun to goand immerse yourself. And I met some
friends there and they're like, oh, we heard, we heard this is
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happening and nothing's been decided yet.We'll just tell you that, but we're
aware of you. It was like, how did you find out. I'm
like, oh, we have oursources. They weren't part of casting,
but they had heard. So itreally helped relax me that, Okay,
nothing has been decided, no newsis good news. Things seemed positive.
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Let's enjoy the rest of the weekend. We got this and then I got
a call and the following he waslike, oh, Disney would like you
to come in for a second callback, and all the tensions just left my
body. Point by strings were cut, like, okay, we've got this.
Two auditions, two callbacks. Herewe go. We do the callback.
It's exactly the same as the firstcallback, and in neither one.
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We didn't do any scenes. AndI double check, like, you know,
if you want to work on thesong, no no, no,
no song, fine, we don'tneed that. Oh okay, we do
it. We do the callback,and at the very end, the head
of character Gooidson's Rick was saying,all right, thank you so much,
Kaitlyn. We're gonna send you toDisney Television next week. Have a safe
drive home, thank you, thankyou very much everybody. And I'm driving
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home and oh, let's great,a third callback. I don't have to
stress about it. I don't.It's the next leg of the journey with
whoever else is with me. Andthen the following week comes along and I
go in and they give me paperwork like favorite work. We don't have
favorite work at callbacks. And theyoung ladies, oh, no money,
it's just a gig, didn't theytell you? So that's what he was
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telling you when he told you youwere going to Disney Television. That's what
he was telling you. You'd gottenthe job oh more or less. But
he didn't actually say it right,And when I checked in with my agents
she didn't actually say it either,but that we were aware, like,
all right, was this in great? Honey, I'm so proud of you.
You're you're heading to Disney next week. I'll check in the latter.
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I gotta go take care of thepapwork. You your agents always working,
they're always busy, And it wasthe gig and we scare at each other.
It's like, don't worry, wecan sell this out afterwards. They're
ready for you to go on in. So I didn't have any time to
freak out or second guess or doubtor had it. But I also didn't
get that much fantasized moment where Iwould get the call and be told and
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I would tastefully cry and it wouldbe this whole thing. It was like,
I get to work. Here wego, Wow, okay, So
I walk in. So you havethat, you have, you have that
brief moment you're walking in and thisis beginning. So at that moment,
like does lose yourself by M andM start playing in your head, like
how do you get yourself amped todo this right away? Well, I
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walk through the door and it's it'sa stunt moment of like I got it,
like this, This isn't a joke. This isn't one knows that we
actors get for roles. We goout after probably even more than ninety nine
point nine percent of roles you readbefore. You don't blup. It's like,
but I get to have this,this is true, my literal dream
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came true. I'm allowed to havethat. And I walk in through the
doorway and there's ten fifteen people there. And usually in our session, for
any actor, you'll have yourself,You'll have your vocal director, you have
your engineer. Oftentimes you have anote taker to help kind of keep track
of things, and oftentimes you'll havethe creator of the show wants to be
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into like piece the process, seehow his vision wants to go. So
anywhere from two to four people,it's very very common. And there was
over ten in this room and I'venever seen them before. Half of them
i've never seen since. Some ofthem were wearing a really fancy suit.
And I look around and like,I don't know any of you. I
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know Dave right Hi, and Iknow Jen Trucio, Hi, I know
Kelly Warren. Hi, I don'tknow anybody else, So like, all
right, well start acting, kid, So I like to start acting.
Hi, guys, thank you somuch for having me here. I'm so
excited. Let's do it. I'mterrified. I'm terrified, and I'm shaking
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him my boots and like take it. Oh, I'm so what. I'm
safe and feel don't feel don't I'msafe. So we get in the booth
and I'm just walking up to thenight home Man oh Man, oh Man,
oh Man, oh Man, ohMan, Man and Dave, head
of Disney Television. Since testing,he popped to Stead and I, um,
I don't think we knew they wereall going to be here. But
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you'll be fine, don't We neverpass fun. That's why you're here.
You got it? Okay, hereyou day and solid. All right,
here we go. Let's focus onyour script, focus on your voice.
Director. We got through a coupleof the projects that needed to get done
on a very tight deadline. Wefocus on those first. I gave them
a few alternate ideas they had trackedthe joke or two to show them fun
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and the hits. But you know, like the kids say, and it
was a costly time, and Iwe finished, and I thanked everybody and
wished them a safe drive home.I headed out, signed all the pay
forward, said thank you to everybody, start driving home and start crying in
the best way. I called mymom, I called the two friends who
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had worked with me on the audition, who were like chopping their fingernails this
whole time with me. And thenI went home and got twenty dollars worth
the chip Boatley and bench Walk atelevision show. I don't remember what.
I think it was parting right,but that was my treat for myself.
That is a it's a remarkable story. I mean to be just thrown into
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it, and it's very much.You had that moment of sink or swim
right away and you swim, yeah, like you walk the walk. Now
you better darn well talk to talk. And that's another thing. Like that's
why I didn't tell anyone I wasauditioning, and I very rarely told anyone
that was my tree. I didn'twant a reputation of like, oh,
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you're done into the role. Someone'sgot it, like no, no,
no, I want to the farand far future. I love was doing
it. I wouldn't ever want totake anything away. I just he wants
the chances to show what I cando when that opportunity comes and let the
chips fall where they made. Let'syou know, let fate decide. So
I kept it to myself. Jobnew, very new. Um, some
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certain people knew. But I alsodidn't talk about it often outside of that,
so the audience came around. Ididn't tell anybody. It's remarkable when
when you stepped into this role,you and Brett kind of coming in obviously
at about the same time. UM. And when I talked with Bill and
with Tony about stepping into those roles, and that group was all sort of
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cast at the same time. Uh, you know, they were trying to
trying to do a reset with thosevoices and trying to get everybody there for
that consistency. Obviously, you andBrett come in, Brett the voice of
Mickey now or one of the voicesof Mickey now, but the primary voice,
and the two of you coming inat about the same time and stepping
into those roles. UM. AndI know Bill and Tony talked about the
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importance of sort of preserving I thinkI heard you use the word steward being
a good steward of this character thatyou've you've taken, and I just I
love that as a concept because that'sthat's what you are as you're you're holding
this position for a while. SoI certainly hope so Wayne had it for
about thirty two years, but atthe time of his passing, and Brucie
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also had its thirty two or thirtythree years. I'm also like, I'm
a very amateur Disney historian. Ilove learning about Disney history, especially poor
voiceovers, just anything. So Idefinitely knew like Wayne had gotten in seventy
seven, Brucie had gotten in ineighty six eighty seven, and Bill and
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Tony had book the roles, andit was like, we're starting from the
ground up. Here are the voiceswe'd like to cultivate and work with for
the long haul in that way thatthey're recognizable, the integrity is there,
that branding is there. We're ableto keep an eye on all aspects of
this phenomenon that's still with us yearsafter Waltz past, years after the company
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has been established. It's some ofthe most connected characters around the world,
right, and everybody knows And whenI say you're holding onto this role for
a while. I mean, obviously, these characters will outlive all of the
people who voiced them. I mean, that's how significant these characters are.
It's a legacy, it's it's it'sI'm so glad to be a part of
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that and to be a steward andan ambassador of sorts for this character and
the company that she's a part of. And you know that, you know,
we're continuing to deliver that magic andthat connection to the audience that I
myself has always wanted to do,and not just for any but for original
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characters, and to show that littlepiece of you to the world that'll live
on after you're gone, to makethat impact. I've always wanted to be
someone who made an impact, toknow that I wasn't a waste, that
I wasn't a blip, and we'reall blips in some ways, but at
least now I know, like,well, I'm here and I'm present,
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and I'm part of something so muchbigger than myself, and I'm so honored
and proud to do that, togive that gift to others that was given
to me, and for as long, you know, keeping good health,
be positive the friendly, work hard, stay strong, and just you know,
we'll see how long we go withher. And who knows that the
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next person may be out there somewhere. They may not have been born yet,
but whoever it is, I hopethey have just as much love and
passion for the work as I do. And I know that your story has
to inspire. I feel like we'redoing a little bit of a masterclass in
voice acting in a lot of ways. Maybe not quite masterclass, but we're
running through a lot of the fundamentalsof this and I think for folks that
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are interested in this as a career, there's a lot here that you have
shared with us that will help folksmaybe down the line. I do want
to ask, though, if Icould possibly speak with many. Is she
nearby? Could she maybe jump onthe phone and I could ask a few
questions. Yeah, I'll go getI think she's given CC a little bit
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of lunch. I'll be right back. I'll go get Hello. Oh,
it's so great. It's so greatto have you here on the on the
pregame show. And I know thatyou're going to be coming with Caitlin to
to dragon Con next weekend. Whatare you what are you looking forward to
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the most with with meeting your fans. Oh, I'm so excited to feel
like everyone might be wearing and peopleare so creative season and I'm an actual
but I'm so excited to see therewill definitely be cosplaying dragons. We see
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those all the time and they're nottoo scary, so you don't have to
worry about that. I know youhave this very special connection with Caitlin uh,
and I just wonder if how weresome of the ways that you and
she are alike, Like, whatare some of the character qualities that you
guys share so much? Come backwith me, But she also knows how
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much we love everybody want to showthat love to the war. I met
you many many years ago when Iwas a kid on my first trip to
Disney World, and I was ableto introduce my sons to you. A
few years ago, we came intoChef Mickey. They took a photo with
you. I'm sure that you rememberJake and Luke. Well, they gave
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you a kiss on the cheek onboth sides, and we happened to notice
when we got home we were goingthrough the photos, Mickey saw it all
go down. We're not sure aboutthe look he had on his face when
he saw the double kiss that theboys were giving to you. But we
were just wanting to make sure thatyou didn't get any grief from Mickey about
that double kiss from the boys.Oh of course, no, actually wanted
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me to come home with it.Of course, you always excited, and
I know that he knows what it'slike to be a mega star and have
people wanting to meet you, becauseyou guys are really this super couple,
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aren't you. Oh? Yes,we are for so much and many were
looking forward to seeing you at DragonCon. Anything that you want to say
to your fans that were thinking aboutcoming and they might be coming up to
to see you in Caitlin, Andif you could put Caitlyn back on the
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phone, Caitlin, anything that you'dlike to say. I know you've got
fans of some of your other projects. I know that you just said goodbye
to Amphibia this year earlier this year, just a few months ago, so
I know you've got fans of someof your other projects. Anything that you
want to say before you get toyour very first dragon Con to folks thinking
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about coming up. Oh man,I am so excited to meet everybody.
Go. We've got some more showscoming in the works. I just can't
slain with i am just yet,but hopefully they're just as big and beautiful
as Amphibia was. And I'm reallyloving the Agletsko love out there. By
the way, I'm Agletsko's mother onthe show, and now we see where
she gets it from. So I'mjust so excited to meet everybody, and
(44:45):
i want to hear everyone's stories.Caitlyn Robock, thank you so much,
thank you, thank you for havingme. And that'll do it for the
twenty twenty two edition of the dragonCon pregame show. Again, thank you
to Columbus State University's Coca Cola SpaceScience Center and doctor Sean Kruzen for dropping
(45:06):
in on today's show. Thanks toDan Carroll as well as the rest of
the media relations team at dragon Con. Could not do this show without you
guys, Sam, Aaron, Gregall the team there in the interview room
at dragon Con. You guys alwaystake really great care of me over the
course of every single dragon Con weekend. Thanks Matt Piper from Open Hand.
(45:29):
You guys are doing the Lord's work. I really enjoyed learning about your organization
and looking forward to seeing you atdragon Con. Thanks again to Caitlin Roebrock
for spending some time with us,and of course the incomparable Mini Mouse.
Great chatting with her. Thank youfor listening, and I will see you
at dragon Con. This has beenthe dragon Con pregame show, powered by
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Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space ScienceCenter. Learn more at cc SSC dot
org. For an updated list ofsafety guidelines and guest list, visits DragonCon
dot org and Transmission Now
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