August 23, 2024 • 31 mins
Kristin Kreuk joins us to talk about seeing Simone Biles compete, her time on Smallville, books, TV shows, Canadian things and whether books are what drew her to her new role as a librarian on Murder in a Small Town.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Joining us now you know her from Smallville, Burden of
Truth Reacher, and her new series Murder in a Small
Town debut is on Fox next month. Kristen Krook, Hi,
welcome to the pregame show. This is your first dragon Con.
So I'm really exceeded that I get to have you
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on the pregame show before your first dragon Con. I
guess I should start by saying, what have you heard
about this wonderful convention that is Dragon Con.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I have heard some amazing thing just that it's a
huge convention, that people are there to have a really
good time. But it's a really fun convention for people,
and I think there's a lot of costplay. Yeah, so
I'm excited to go, and I'm going with Eric Johnson.
I think as long as everything and goes smoothly for him,
and I think it'll be really.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Fun elite level cosplay, and it's a little different than
some conventions, and that it doesn't stop. It really starts,
you know, Thursday, and then it ends Monday and there's
all hours of the night. It's it's become right.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's like a big party, right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
NonStop, the biggest best costume party that you will ever attend,
you know, while there's a convention going on in the background,
and that's what makes it special. It's all just part
of it. So you are currently in Paris because you went,
you were there, and then you got to go to
the Olympics. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was really lovely to
be able to go. I got to see some perform
and all of those Olympians, all of those gymnasts, I
just I was blown away by them. I did gymnastics
as a as you know, from like I don't know,
sixth grade. It's just late. I started late and I
went into like eleventh grade, and I compete at a
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very low level. So it's kind of nice to be
able to see people who are extraordinary, best in the
world and in Solon's case, changing the game, just see
them in person and with all that energy. It was.
It was really spectacular.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's there's nothing like seeing someone who is just absolutely
the best at what they do and then you get
to see it in person, like I got to see
Michael Jordan play in person a few times.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I got to see Pete Sampras play once, and you
just these guys are like, they're just so unbelievable. So
that's great that you you got to see. Uh yeah,
what anything else that you got to see or was
anything else that you would have wanted to see?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I saw. I saw a little bit of something also,
which was great because the French gosh Leon, I forget
his last name right now, but the guy who was,
you know, just killing it. He competed that evening and
obviously there's a whole bunch of events and that crowd.
I have ever heard a crowd that loud in my life.
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Not that I go to big stadium things very often.
It's not something I would typically pick, but the sound
that they were making I had to plug my ears.
It was wild, how loud and excited everyone was.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
As a Canadian, would you have rather gone to a
Winter Olympics? I mean, I don't know where Canadians are.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean I was in Vancouver for the twenty ten Olympics.
I didn't go to events, but I was home for
that Olympics and it was the energy was really vibrant.
But yes, I mean, I love watching all of the
winter sports. I think I do prefer I'm probably one
of the very few who preferred the Winter Olympics. But
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I love watching gymnastics and I'll always be attached to
that sport for the rest of my life. I spent
so many hours and years in the gym and it
means a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is there a some moan bottles of curling? I mean,
do you have that kind of inside?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And I don't know, but yes, listen. Just because I'm
Canadian doesn't mean I know everything about curling. Although although
I do love watching curling when when it's on, you know, yeah,
it's a fun sport to watch, and they're they're just
I mean, I can't. I tried it once and when
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I was working in Rechina and Saskatchewan, and I was
I fully injured my hip flexor because I'm terrible on
the ice because I'm a West Coast girl and we
don't get a ton of snow. I mean we do
now a little bit more. But yes, it's not an
easy sport.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
There's not many sports that it's like house cleaning, you know,
It's like you're scrapping and Chasing a Rock. But it's fascinating.
I love to watch it, and you know, I get
hooked and I just start just kind of stare off
into space while I'm watching it, and then suddenly an
hour's gone by, and I'm like, I don't even know
what I just saw, but it was amazing. I loved
every seven of it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Good good. I'm glad you should go and hang out
in Winnipeg or you know, in a Prairie province town
and let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Can you teach me to I mean, you're there me. No,
I've already got that hips from one day from soccer
over the years, so I've just, oh god, I'm begging
for some sort of a hip injury to go with that.
So you're from Vancouver and then you you get you
actually ended up with a couple of acting jobs in
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Vancouver kind of at the same time, but I'm sure
Smallville is the one that changed everything. Do you consider
yourself a child actor because you were young but you
weren't really like a kid?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
No? No, I don't. I really I was seventeen, I
was in my last year of high school, so I
guess technically I was still a child, but I felt
like I was closer to to you know, I mean,
it's the boy is the marker, it's the marker eighteen
years old, I don't know what I do. I have
a fully developed frontal well maybe not, but I I
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didn't feel like I was a kid. I wasn't a
kid on so although I was, I didn't have the
confidence that I would later have, and I didn't know
quite how to stand up for myself. Like there are
things that I supposed to fits me and fit me
into that kind of child actor category, but I didn't
grow up in it, and it wasn't something that defined
my youth. I acted for fun. It was something I
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enjoyed doing in class format, but never professionally. And I
didn't act to make money until I was you know
of an age where people go and get jobs and
get paid. And so I don't feel like I fit
into that category. I don't feel like I've had the
same traumas that a lot of child actors have had.
I yeah, so long answer, No, I don't feel like
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I was a child actor.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And so you're saying you don't get invited to the
meetings with like Corey Feldman and Emmanuel Lewis whenever they
get together, you don't. You don't get invited to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Those are there meetings?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know, but no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't think I've earned that level, that level of
child actory meth.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
David Spade had the movie Dickie Roberts former child Star,
and they were all playing poker together all the time,
and it's you know, like Greg Brady and all this.
I don't know in my head, I just think, man,
I wish that that was a real thing. Yeah, so
you end up on Smallville and you get cast, and then,
I mean, because it was one of your first gigs,
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I don't know that you really had anything to compare
it to as far as perspective, but I mean that
was a massive show for you right out of the gate, right.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it really was. I mean I had done, like
you had sort of alluded to. I had done a
CBC series for a season or two prior to getting Smallville,
and I had done an ABC TV movie called Snowhite,
although I don't think that had aired one Smallville aired.
I don't remember the timing of all this. It was
so long ago now, but yes, Smallville was a It
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was a huge budget show, especially for the time, and
it was a show that was picked up for thirteen
episodes right out the gate, which was very rare back
in two thousand and one, and it ended up being
a you know, global sensation, a hit. And while I
didn't have any other experience, it was certainly clear that
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it was abnormal and it really was a parent in
my day to day life that the show was a
big deal to people. And that's only been like further
confirmed through all these years of going to conventions and
hearing stories about, you know, how the show impacted people's
lives and how they watched it with their family members,
and how it reminds them of their parents and moments
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of closeness, and it just it's amazing how much the
show impacted people.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So you get cast to play Lana Lang and you
mentioned Snow White, and this is you know, over twenty
years ago when this happens. Obviously there's a lot has
changed since since that time, since two thousand and one. Yeah,
and we're seeing certainly now, especially in the last ten years,
and kind of recently we just had the Disney convention
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where they were you know, really to the uh, the
Snow White footage. Things are so different now do you
like and you're you're, you know, wonderfully diverse as a
human being. You have you know, a Chinese and Dutch ancestry.
So do you feel like, you know, you kind of
dodged all of that or did you get much grief
about any of that back then playing snow White or uh,
(09:21):
you know, playing long and just not looking like what
people were expecting you to look like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I well, in regard to snow Light, there was no
conversation that I recall. I also, I mean, this is I.
While I am mixed race, I am in many ways
white passing, and so you would say, so I don't
I don't really present. I mean this is what I'm
told anyway. So I don't think for character like snow White,
(09:51):
I don't think the there was I didn't look that
different from what people imagine that role to look like.
For Smallville, I feel like people were more angry that
I wasn't a red head than anything else. And I
wish we played her as white. We always played her
as white, and I wish we hadn't. I wish that
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we had taken a risk and done something more on Bold.
But you know, even not having red hair was hard
for people who had grown up with these comic books
and seeing these characters and imagine them in their minds
in a certain way for so long.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, and that's a testimony to where we are now,
that that kind of progress has been made and that
people are willing to take those kinds of chances. And
I just wondered if you ever, you know, sort of
face those things. And I remember conversations about the Red Hair,
just as someone watching it and talking to people, and
I just remember saying, but she's supposed to have read,
and like, if that was the only thing we were
complaining about now, it would be great, right.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I guess yeah. I mean it's become I don't know,
it's become a very political conversation. And and I mean
the books, for most of those comic books are written
at a time when our lives were not as integrated,
and there was I mean, probably a lot more racism.
So I do think that if those comic books are
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written today, those characters would be more diverse, because our
cities and our lives are more diverse. There have been
more and more people that have moved into towns. I mean,
I live in Vancouver. It's been incredibly. I'm used to
there being many different people from many different backgrounds. I mean,
all of us have come from somewhere else. These are
our native lands, at least in Canada, in America. So yeah,
(11:37):
I think, yeah, yeah, so yes, it was a very
different time. But I do get a lot of people
who'll come up to me who are either mixed race
or of Asian heritage and who feel seen from that
show because there was so little representation back in two
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, that's fantastic, And I know one of the things
about doing a show and a lot of people now,
I guess actors they're hoping for a show like Smallville
so that they can then have these opportunities to go
to conventions and meet fans, because it's just one of
those shows that clicks with a fan base, and like
you said, to be able to connect with people at
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a time in their lives when they were watching it,
that's really special because you don't have that access to
them without this show.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Exactly, absolutely, And it's so special that people are willing
to be so vulnerable with us. You don't meet strangers
on the street generally who are willing to share some
of the most intimate things of their lives. But with
people who have watched and communed with a television series,
they're willing to share some incredibly personal details and it
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feels very, i don't know, generous, and I feel lucky
that I get to be a part of people's lives
in that way.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
If people don't understand that, and the only way that
I can tell them that they can kind of experience
that is at Dragon Con. Maybe go near where some
of the voice actors are and watch the interactors and
watch when they do the voice, and watch the tears
and why it's like music, there's something that's connecting the soul.
I have seen people just cry listening to Bill Farmer
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talks Goofy or Rob Paulson do any of his voices.
Rob Pulson will be there with the other original Ninja
Turtles this year, which is kind of exciting. I got
to interview the four of them once, and you know,
that's probably went the way that you would imagine it would.
I just asked one question and got out of the way.
But it's just special to see that connection that happens
because it's touching something deep down inside. Obviously, you guys
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are getting that too. It's a little different there because
you know, you're playing a role, but you're not necessarily
doing some voice as you're talking to them. They're hearing
you as you spoke on the show. Primarily, most people
tend to think that when you work on a show
or a movie together, everybody there becomes, you know, best friends,
and they hang out all the time. Radio people get
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that too. When we're people think, oh, you guys must
hang out all the time, and it's like, we go
to work, we do our job, but we're not necessarily
hanging out all the time. Yeah, was it that way?
I mean, did you guys spend a lot of time
together away from work or are you now getting that
opportunity when you go to conventions to make up maybe
for lost time?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I mean I never spent time. I mean maybe
I hung out with Michael that off of set. Alison
and I were friends for many years, and Erica and
I became friends because we didn't really have scenes together
Erica and I on the show. We had some here
and there, but our friendship is really blossom since the
show ended, and you know, we spend time together and
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we touch base with each other and we you know,
we see each other because we both live in Vancouver,
so we see each other and have tea and like
we have a relationship and it's beautiful. And I think
that this convention circuit that it's really it's Michael that
got me on this thing, that got me on this train.
I feel closer to everybody now than I ever did before,
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and it's really special because we're all this is a
show that we did so many years ago, and now
we get this opportunity to know each other better and
it's I don't know, they're really lovely people and we
shared a really kind of pivotal part of our lives
with each other, so it's nice to continue to have
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access to those memories.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Please tell me you go out for tea with Erica,
like in public, and people walk by and see you
and go what you know what?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It rarely happens still recognize one or the other of us.
But it's weird. It's like we we don't quite get
noticed as like like the two of us together. It's
very funny.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I've heard all these stories about the you know, the
cast from Full House, like you know, Joey and like
they're all out together somewhere and then people are like, wait,
they are related, Like what's going on here? This is
more with Kristin Kruk right after this. So as far
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as conventions go, and I'm gonna see how my research.
You can grade me on my research at the end.
But I heard you were a big Star Trek next
Generation fan as a kid growing up.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So when you go to a convention, and they're going
to have a big representation at Dragon Con this year.
So when you go to a convention, is it a
little like as a fan of the show or are
you kind of looking at them from a distance. Have
you walked over and talked to them? Do you like,
do you approach them? Because I also know that Jonathan
Frakes is going to be there, and I understand that
that might be a little awkward hilarious.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
So here's the thing. I've I've met a bunch of
them many times now because I've done, you know, a
bunch of conventions, and I feel like I have a separation,
Like I feel the show that I watched as a
kid into my teen years is not that they're not
the same, but doesn't I don't know, doesn't Also, I'm
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a huge Princess Bride fan. And I've seen those guys
at conventions and I don't feel like they don't feel
like they're attached to the thing that I was attached to.
If that, and he says, it's the weird divide in
my mind, So I mean, it's nice. I love seeing
them that the next generation people, I don't think they
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I mean, I've talked to Franks before, and I have
I've never, you know, told him that I had a
big crush on him as a child, so you know,
but it doesn't doesn't feel relevant really. But you know,
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if I was Michael Rosenbaum, I would have had many
posters signed, had DVD's, I would have. You know, he
when he's a fan of something, it's like it's intense.
I just I feel like I'm a little bit weak
that way. My fan drive lives very much in my
nostalgia and not in my present life.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I was doing an interview with Christy Swanson once and
I'm not gonna say, I'm not going to say who
the person was. It was one of the other guests
at the convention TV person and he heard that I
was doing the interview and he's like, what will you
introduce me. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan
of hers. And I was like, absolutely, just just come by.
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You know, I'm gonna be doing the interview. You don't
interrupt the interview. But then when we're done, yeah, I'll
introduce you. And he said, yeah, I'm just like, she's
in my favorite movie of all time. I thought, oh,
what's this going to be, because I'm in my head,
I'm thinking what's his favorite. I'm thinking he's going to
say like Big Daddy or I didn't know what he
was going to say. And he said, oh, Mannekin two
and I was like, shut up, that is nobody's favorite
movie ever. What are you talking about. Don't say that
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out loud. That's embarrassing. Just walk away, man, you're not
I'm not going to introduce you. Now, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Nobody's favorite it's man too.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh come on, man, you're also big a fan of
the Office, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes? They do. I love the Office. I mean I
like both the American and the British Office.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Catherine Tate who was on the American Office but is
British and it just seems so weird. Yeah. Also on
the Dragon con pregame show this year. I just interviewed her.
Oh nice, and yeah, she'll she'll be uh, she'll be there,
and it's always She says that it's the fandom for
the Office is just intense compared to the Doctor Who
Fantom that you would think would be the intense ones, right, Really.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
The Office fandoms more into the that I am shocked.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, and maybe it's just because it was you know,
maybe more people in America saw The Office and knew, right.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's less of a genre show. I mean, it isn't
a genre show, so maybe it has a broader appeal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, So if you want to meet Catherine Tate, by
all means, all t you ever to introduce you if
you want.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, that's your favorite movie that she was in was
man Okay, Okay, now that I think about it, I
should have just told him, hey, his favorite movie is
Mannequin too, and she probably would have said, shut up, no,
it's not I would think, can we talk about can
we talk about Reacher?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah? Of course.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
So you uh obviously you uh got to work with
with Alan again and and so and I know he
was always you know, kind of a big guy. But like,
was there enough of a gap between you seeing him
that all of a sudden, he's this giant monster of
a man, And like, what was your reaction when you
saw him?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh? Yeah, I mean he he had gained a ton
of muscle, just a lot of muscle. He's I mean,
I didn't work with him on small though, I don't
think and but but uh, yeah, he was shockingly large.
He really took it on, and he took on that
character and wanted to make him as ignormous as possible,
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so so so he succeeded. I think he's really charming
in that role.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, and he's got that appeal to him. And I
watched the first season on my own, and then at
some point my wife was saying, you know, what's what's
something that we can watch? And I said, well, there's
a second season of Reacher coming out. It let's go back,
and I rewatched it with her, and I mean she
fell in love with him immediately. She's like, this guy's great.
And I say, yeah, I mean I understand why you
might know. He's you know, you know, built and huge
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and enormous and all that, and but no, he's got
that appeal to him. Doesn't he There's just something kind
of charming about the guy in general.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He's great. He's great in that role, and I think
he's easy to watch and the show's a lot of fun.
I think people wanted a fun television show that isn't
too too dark and twisty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
More with Kristin Kruk right after this, what kind of
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stuff you watch? I know you read a lot of books,
and I'll get to books in a second, but is
there anything you're watching right now? Or do you spend
all your time with your nose in a book?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No? No, No, I watched things too. I mean i've been
I started watching Shogun when it came out, and then
I hadn't finished it. So I'm finishing off Chogun now,
which I think is a beautiful show. It's gorgeously shot.
It's shot in VC on the coast, and just I
think the acting is lovely. And Justin Marx, who is
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one of the epis on it, wrote a really wonderful
movie I did called street Fighter the Legend of Chun Lee.
So I kind of like how his career has blossomed
since since that that endeavor of ours. Yeah, so I've
been watching that lately, I don't know if I've and
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watching anything else. I've kind of been behind the Bear.
I like The Beth, but I haven't watched the latest
season yet.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh yeah, the to the books? Do you consider yourself?
And I didn't know that there was a difference between
a bookworm and a bibliophile. Do you see that there's
a difference between those two or do you think just
to me, those are synonymous? Right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
They feel like synonymous? Yes? What is the difference?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I one is just like a bookworm is somebody who's
reading books all the time. And I guess a biblio
file is someone who appreciates books and is often reading them,
but maybe they're just collecting them or they're just you know, Oh,
but you're probably more of a book if you're reading.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, I think I'm probably both. I have shelves of books.
I like buying beautiful copies of books, but I also
am reading books a lot less when I'm working, obviously
for obvious reasons. But yes, I read all the time.
I just finished It's been on everyone every woman in
my edge. I've been reading Randigulyized All Fours, which is
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a fantastic book that sort of explores perimenopause, and I
really's I mean, she's an incredible artist, all around artist,
and she's a really interesting, insightful and funny writer. And
I really enjoyed that book.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did your love for books in any way draw you
to playing because you're playing a librarian? I am so
was there any thinking like, Okay, I'm going to take this,
but this is what I need. I'm going to need
like many scenes in the library so that whenever we
we're not shooting, I can just thumbing through stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I didn't, because I should have. I love that
she's a librarian. And I did spend a lot of
time in the local library and Gibson's where we shot,
because we shot in their library, so really vibrant, functioning
library where people are always they're always there, there's always programs,
which is what's great about libraries because the community has
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in their places where people can feel safe and people
can find information and people can connect with each other.
And yes, I love that that that's what I get
to do, and that's I hope we get to do
another season of the show, because she's a She's a
wonderful character, and I really liked I really liked playing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I like your description of the library, but also for
people like me that I'm not crazy about loud noises
and you get away from that too in the library,
that's also good.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I can kind of use anxiety.
I think it's a place of safety for in many fasts,
in many ways.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
All Right, so you're you're Canadian. I was thinking about
a round of Canadian or Dead. It's a game I
like to play when I have a Canadian guest on
and you just name people and you tell me if
they're Canadian or dead. But I thought it might be
more fun instead of that to just go through a
couple of Canadian things and you can tell me like
yeah or no, or you know, some version of it.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh okay, sure.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Where they ran Nickelback. I'm starting tough. I know this
is hard, but I want to start with nickel.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, it's a divisive it's a divisive topic. I feel
like Nickelback is having a real renaissance and has been
a part of the cultural conversation redesigning their place within
within the music lands shape of Canada. Listen, I'm not
a Nickelback fan. That means nothing I am not a
connoisseur of music. I don't think there's anything wrong with them,
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but I'm just not a fan.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a documentary, So neay is what you're saying on that,
And so if I said yeah or nay, that would
they would be a NAE for nickelback for you. But
you're not hanging on them.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You're just saying I'm not hating on them in any way.
It's just a name for me. I mean, will assume
that it's for me on all of.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
These there's a there's a documentary about them. I think
it goes on Netflix, and it kind of goes into
the hate and all that stuff, and so that's why
they're back on my mind again. I watched it right
after I watched uh, the one that Brat's on the
Brat pack, and they were kind of sound right, and
then it was like, you know, things were going great
and then all of a sudden everything gets de railed
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and all the hate starts happening and all that. So
it's kind of a similar back to back watch. All right,
how about poutine?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Funny, I've been talking about poutine a lot lately, so
I stopped eating meat and I became a pescatarian a
long time ago now, so I don't think I've ever
actually had a real poutine, which seems crazy, but again,
I'm from the West Coast and it's a real corDECT thing,
so theoretically I'm a ya, but I have never tried it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
How about the kids in the Hall?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Ya, But again I feel like I'm just a little
too young.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You're just a little younger than me. We're not far apart,
but I feel like I'm about half a generation ahead
of you. And that was huge for me, like as
a teen watching Kids in the Hall because again, probably
shouldn't have been watching it when I started watching it.
And yeah, but they still make me laugh a lot.
Beaver tails.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
A I like them, I wouldn't pursue them necessarily. I mean,
there's fried deliciousness. There are many versions of fried deliciousness
that I would like to consume and if that was
an option, for sure. Yea.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Do you know the song Rocks and Trees by the
Arrogant Worms.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It's it's it's an ode to Canada, and the main
lyrics are We've got rocks and trees and trees and
rocks and rocks and trees and trees and rocks and
rocks and.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Trees and.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Water are they throwing at the yea? I don't know
if you knew the song. It's great. And my wife,
who is is Australian, her mom is from Canada, so
technically my wife is half Canadian. And my kids are
quite proud of the fact that they've got Canadian heritage.
And that was one of the things that we made
sure when they were that was one of our you know,
riding in the car songs. We made sure we had
that song handy so that they can actually between that
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and the Wiggles, we tried to rock you know, all
of the all of the homeland with that. How about
Alan Thick?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Alan Thick, God, I haven't thought about that guy a
long time. He has not crossed my mind. Do we
know a lot about Alan Thick?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, the only well I met Alan Thick, and he
was we had some we had a good time hanging
out for a little bit. But I but the reason
he was on my mind is when I was putting
together my Canadian or dead list, because he would be
both now right and I always like to throw it
at the end. One that's both. That was the way
the game usually works, And I used to use like
John Candy or somebody, but now so I was working
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on that. That's why he was still on my list.
And what about Ryan Reynolds? I mean, is anybody having
a better life right now than Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
No, he's killing him, isn't he. I mean he's he's
a Vancouver boy. Yeah, yeah, from my from my hometown. Yeah,
good for him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He seems to just Yeah, did you watch him on
was it fifteen? Is that the show that he did
when he was a kid?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh, I don't know. I think he was on The Odyssey,
which was another show that a lot of people were
on back then, which is a you should look at it.
It's a real it's the staple of Canadian Intellivision from
that time in the genre realm.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well that maybe I should have just used that instead
of Ryan Reynolds or Allan Thick. I should have just
gone with the other. Yeah, exactly, that's where it should
have been. So we're getting ready for Dragon Con. It's
next weekend. Anything you want to say to the fans
that'll be coming to see this will be great because
this is your first dragon Con so you're going to
get You're going to get it kind of a larger
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group in that regard, because you know, some of the
people that come every four or five years, you know,
maybe people have seen them before. You're going to have
all fresh people.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, I'm excited. I haven't done a convention in that
area in a long time too, So yeah, I mean,
I'm just looking forward to seeing everybody and talking about
you know, the show so much about books people. I'm
just excited to meet everybody. It'll be lovely.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And I've got to warn you it's it's going to
be like really really hot. I know you're I don't
know that you spend Yeah, it's we're just boiling down
here right now. Over the next couple of weeks. It's
going to be rough. So just a heads up on that.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Thank you, Thank you for the warning.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I try and you know, and we try to remind
our listeners also that you know, take a shower, deodorant.
You're in a costume. It may be leather, it may not,
I don't know, there may be holes in it. Sometimes
you got a little ventilation, but you still want to
make sure to shower and hydrate and deodorant. For crying
out loud.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, yes, and reapply. I always need to reapply during
the day.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Kristin, thank you so much. Really looking forward to seeing
you at dragon Con next weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yes me as well.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
A mom that lifts joins us.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Next this is the dragon Con pregame show powered by
Columbus State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center, where you
can learn the science behind the fiction.
This is the dragon Con pregame show, powered by Columbus
State University's Coca Cola Space Science Center, where you can
learn the science behind the fiction.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Joining us now you know her from Smallville, Burden of
Truth Reacher, and her new series Murder in a Small
Town debut is on Fox next month. Kristen Krook, Hi,
welcome to the pregame show. This is your first dragon Con.
So I'm really exceeded that I get to have you
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on the pregame show before your first dragon Con. I
guess I should start by saying, what have you heard
about this wonderful convention that is Dragon Con.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I have heard some amazing thing just that it's a
huge convention, that people are there to have a really
good time. But it's a really fun convention for people,
and I think there's a lot of costplay. Yeah, so
I'm excited to go, and I'm going with Eric Johnson.
I think as long as everything and goes smoothly for him,
and I think it'll be really.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Fun elite level cosplay, and it's a little different than
some conventions, and that it doesn't stop. It really starts,
you know, Thursday, and then it ends Monday and there's
all hours of the night. It's it's become right.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
It's like a big party, right.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
NonStop, the biggest best costume party that you will ever attend,
you know, while there's a convention going on in the background,
and that's what makes it special. It's all just part
of it. So you are currently in Paris because you went,
you were there, and then you got to go to
the Olympics. That's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, I mean it was. It was really lovely to
be able to go. I got to see some perform
and all of those Olympians, all of those gymnasts, I
just I was blown away by them. I did gymnastics
as a as you know, from like I don't know,
sixth grade. It's just late. I started late and I
went into like eleventh grade, and I compete at a
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very low level. So it's kind of nice to be
able to see people who are extraordinary, best in the
world and in Solon's case, changing the game, just see
them in person and with all that energy. It was.
It was really spectacular.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It's there's nothing like seeing someone who is just absolutely
the best at what they do and then you get
to see it in person, like I got to see
Michael Jordan play in person a few times.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I got to see Pete Sampras play once, and you
just these guys are like, they're just so unbelievable. So
that's great that you you got to see. Uh yeah,
what anything else that you got to see or was
anything else that you would have wanted to see?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I saw. I saw a little bit of something also,
which was great because the French gosh Leon, I forget
his last name right now, but the guy who was,
you know, just killing it. He competed that evening and
obviously there's a whole bunch of events and that crowd.
I have ever heard a crowd that loud in my life.
(03:02):
Not that I go to big stadium things very often.
It's not something I would typically pick, but the sound
that they were making I had to plug my ears.
It was wild, how loud and excited everyone was.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
As a Canadian, would you have rather gone to a
Winter Olympics? I mean, I don't know where Canadians are.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I mean I was in Vancouver for the twenty ten Olympics.
I didn't go to events, but I was home for
that Olympics and it was the energy was really vibrant.
But yes, I mean, I love watching all of the
winter sports. I think I do prefer I'm probably one
of the very few who preferred the Winter Olympics. But
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I love watching gymnastics and I'll always be attached to
that sport for the rest of my life. I spent
so many hours and years in the gym and it
means a lot to me.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Is there a some moan bottles of curling? I mean,
do you have that kind of inside?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And I don't know, but yes, listen. Just because I'm
Canadian doesn't mean I know everything about curling. Although although
I do love watching curling when when it's on, you know, yeah,
it's a fun sport to watch, and they're they're just
I mean, I can't. I tried it once and when
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I was working in Rechina and Saskatchewan, and I was
I fully injured my hip flexor because I'm terrible on
the ice because I'm a West Coast girl and we
don't get a ton of snow. I mean we do
now a little bit more. But yes, it's not an
easy sport.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
There's not many sports that it's like house cleaning, you know,
It's like you're scrapping and Chasing a Rock. But it's fascinating.
I love to watch it, and you know, I get
hooked and I just start just kind of stare off
into space while I'm watching it, and then suddenly an
hour's gone by, and I'm like, I don't even know
what I just saw, but it was amazing. I loved
every seven of it.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Good good. I'm glad you should go and hang out
in Winnipeg or you know, in a Prairie province town
and let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Can you teach me to I mean, you're there me. No,
I've already got that hips from one day from soccer
over the years, so I've just, oh god, I'm begging
for some sort of a hip injury to go with that.
So you're from Vancouver and then you you get you
actually ended up with a couple of acting jobs in
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Vancouver kind of at the same time, but I'm sure
Smallville is the one that changed everything. Do you consider
yourself a child actor because you were young but you
weren't really like a kid?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
No? No, I don't. I really I was seventeen, I
was in my last year of high school, so I
guess technically I was still a child, but I felt
like I was closer to to you know, I mean,
it's the boy is the marker, it's the marker eighteen
years old, I don't know what I do. I have
a fully developed frontal well maybe not, but I I
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didn't feel like I was a kid. I wasn't a
kid on so although I was, I didn't have the
confidence that I would later have, and I didn't know
quite how to stand up for myself. Like there are
things that I supposed to fits me and fit me
into that kind of child actor category, but I didn't
grow up in it, and it wasn't something that defined
my youth. I acted for fun. It was something I
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enjoyed doing in class format, but never professionally. And I
didn't act to make money until I was you know
of an age where people go and get jobs and
get paid. And so I don't feel like I fit
into that category. I don't feel like I've had the
same traumas that a lot of child actors have had.
I yeah, so long answer, No, I don't feel like
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I was a child actor.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
And so you're saying you don't get invited to the
meetings with like Corey Feldman and Emmanuel Lewis whenever they
get together, you don't. You don't get invited to.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Those are there meetings?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I don't know, but no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't think I've earned that level, that level of
child actory meth.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
David Spade had the movie Dickie Roberts former child Star,
and they were all playing poker together all the time,
and it's you know, like Greg Brady and all this.
I don't know in my head, I just think, man,
I wish that that was a real thing. Yeah, so
you end up on Smallville and you get cast, and then,
I mean, because it was one of your first gigs,
(07:19):
I don't know that you really had anything to compare
it to as far as perspective, but I mean that
was a massive show for you right out of the gate, right.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah, it really was. I mean I had done, like
you had sort of alluded to. I had done a
CBC series for a season or two prior to getting Smallville,
and I had done an ABC TV movie called Snowhite,
although I don't think that had aired one Smallville aired.
I don't remember the timing of all this. It was
so long ago now, but yes, Smallville was a It
(07:49):
was a huge budget show, especially for the time, and
it was a show that was picked up for thirteen
episodes right out the gate, which was very rare back
in two thousand and one, and it ended up being
a you know, global sensation, a hit. And while I
didn't have any other experience, it was certainly clear that
(08:10):
it was abnormal and it really was a parent in
my day to day life that the show was a
big deal to people. And that's only been like further
confirmed through all these years of going to conventions and
hearing stories about, you know, how the show impacted people's
lives and how they watched it with their family members,
and how it reminds them of their parents and moments
(08:33):
of closeness, and it just it's amazing how much the
show impacted people.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
So you get cast to play Lana Lang and you
mentioned Snow White, and this is you know, over twenty
years ago when this happens. Obviously there's a lot has
changed since since that time, since two thousand and one. Yeah,
and we're seeing certainly now, especially in the last ten years,
and kind of recently we just had the Disney convention
(08:58):
where they were you know, really to the uh, the
Snow White footage. Things are so different now do you
like and you're you're, you know, wonderfully diverse as a
human being. You have you know, a Chinese and Dutch ancestry.
So do you feel like, you know, you kind of
dodged all of that or did you get much grief
about any of that back then playing snow White or uh,
(09:21):
you know, playing long and just not looking like what
people were expecting you to look like.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
I well, in regard to snow Light, there was no
conversation that I recall. I also, I mean, this is I.
While I am mixed race, I am in many ways
white passing, and so you would say, so I don't
I don't really present. I mean this is what I'm
told anyway. So I don't think for character like snow White,
(09:51):
I don't think the there was I didn't look that
different from what people imagine that role to look like.
For Smallville, I feel like people were more angry that
I wasn't a red head than anything else. And I
wish we played her as white. We always played her
as white, and I wish we hadn't. I wish that
(10:13):
we had taken a risk and done something more on Bold.
But you know, even not having red hair was hard
for people who had grown up with these comic books
and seeing these characters and imagine them in their minds
in a certain way for so long.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Well, and that's a testimony to where we are now,
that that kind of progress has been made and that
people are willing to take those kinds of chances. And
I just wondered if you ever, you know, sort of
face those things. And I remember conversations about the Red Hair,
just as someone watching it and talking to people, and
I just remember saying, but she's supposed to have read,
and like, if that was the only thing we were
complaining about now, it would be great, right.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I guess yeah. I mean it's become I don't know,
it's become a very political conversation. And and I mean
the books, for most of those comic books are written
at a time when our lives were not as integrated,
and there was I mean, probably a lot more racism.
So I do think that if those comic books are
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written today, those characters would be more diverse, because our
cities and our lives are more diverse. There have been
more and more people that have moved into towns. I mean,
I live in Vancouver. It's been incredibly. I'm used to
there being many different people from many different backgrounds. I mean,
all of us have come from somewhere else. These are
our native lands, at least in Canada, in America. So yeah,
(11:37):
I think, yeah, yeah, so yes, it was a very
different time. But I do get a lot of people
who'll come up to me who are either mixed race
or of Asian heritage and who feel seen from that
show because there was so little representation back in two
thousand and one.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Yeah, that's fantastic, And I know one of the things
about doing a show and a lot of people now,
I guess actors they're hoping for a show like Smallville
so that they can then have these opportunities to go
to conventions and meet fans, because it's just one of
those shows that clicks with a fan base, and like
you said, to be able to connect with people at
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a time in their lives when they were watching it,
that's really special because you don't have that access to
them without this show.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Exactly, absolutely, And it's so special that people are willing
to be so vulnerable with us. You don't meet strangers
on the street generally who are willing to share some
of the most intimate things of their lives. But with
people who have watched and communed with a television series,
they're willing to share some incredibly personal details and it
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feels very, i don't know, generous, and I feel lucky
that I get to be a part of people's lives
in that way.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
If people don't understand that, and the only way that
I can tell them that they can kind of experience
that is at Dragon Con. Maybe go near where some
of the voice actors are and watch the interactors and
watch when they do the voice, and watch the tears
and why it's like music, there's something that's connecting the soul.
I have seen people just cry listening to Bill Farmer
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talks Goofy or Rob Paulson do any of his voices.
Rob Pulson will be there with the other original Ninja
Turtles this year, which is kind of exciting. I got
to interview the four of them once, and you know,
that's probably went the way that you would imagine it would.
I just asked one question and got out of the way.
But it's just special to see that connection that happens
because it's touching something deep down inside. Obviously, you guys
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are getting that too. It's a little different there because
you know, you're playing a role, but you're not necessarily
doing some voice as you're talking to them. They're hearing
you as you spoke on the show. Primarily, most people
tend to think that when you work on a show
or a movie together, everybody there becomes, you know, best friends,
and they hang out all the time. Radio people get
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that too. When we're people think, oh, you guys must
hang out all the time, and it's like, we go
to work, we do our job, but we're not necessarily
hanging out all the time. Yeah, was it that way?
I mean, did you guys spend a lot of time
together away from work or are you now getting that
opportunity when you go to conventions to make up maybe
for lost time?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, I mean I never spent time. I mean maybe
I hung out with Michael that off of set. Alison
and I were friends for many years, and Erica and
I became friends because we didn't really have scenes together
Erica and I on the show. We had some here
and there, but our friendship is really blossom since the
show ended, and you know, we spend time together and
(14:41):
we touch base with each other and we you know,
we see each other because we both live in Vancouver,
so we see each other and have tea and like
we have a relationship and it's beautiful. And I think
that this convention circuit that it's really it's Michael that
got me on this thing, that got me on this train.
I feel closer to everybody now than I ever did before,
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and it's really special because we're all this is a
show that we did so many years ago, and now
we get this opportunity to know each other better and
it's I don't know, they're really lovely people and we
shared a really kind of pivotal part of our lives
with each other, so it's nice to continue to have
(15:23):
access to those memories.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Please tell me you go out for tea with Erica,
like in public, and people walk by and see you
and go what you know what?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
It rarely happens still recognize one or the other of us.
But it's weird. It's like we we don't quite get
noticed as like like the two of us together. It's
very funny.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I've heard all these stories about the you know, the
cast from Full House, like you know, Joey and like
they're all out together somewhere and then people are like, wait,
they are related, Like what's going on here? This is
more with Kristin Kruk right after this. So as far
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as conventions go, and I'm gonna see how my research.
You can grade me on my research at the end.
But I heard you were a big Star Trek next
Generation fan as a kid growing up.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
So when you go to a convention, and they're going
to have a big representation at Dragon Con this year.
So when you go to a convention, is it a
little like as a fan of the show or are
you kind of looking at them from a distance. Have
you walked over and talked to them? Do you like,
do you approach them? Because I also know that Jonathan
Frakes is going to be there, and I understand that
that might be a little awkward hilarious.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
So here's the thing. I've I've met a bunch of
them many times now because I've done, you know, a
bunch of conventions, and I feel like I have a separation,
Like I feel the show that I watched as a
kid into my teen years is not that they're not
the same, but doesn't I don't know, doesn't Also, I'm
(17:09):
a huge Princess Bride fan. And I've seen those guys
at conventions and I don't feel like they don't feel
like they're attached to the thing that I was attached to.
If that, and he says, it's the weird divide in
my mind, So I mean, it's nice. I love seeing
them that the next generation people, I don't think they
(17:33):
I mean, I've talked to Franks before, and I have
I've never, you know, told him that I had a
big crush on him as a child, so you know,
but it doesn't doesn't feel relevant really. But you know,
(17:54):
if I was Michael Rosenbaum, I would have had many
posters signed, had DVD's, I would have. You know, he
when he's a fan of something, it's like it's intense.
I just I feel like I'm a little bit weak
that way. My fan drive lives very much in my
nostalgia and not in my present life.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
I was doing an interview with Christy Swanson once and
I'm not gonna say, I'm not going to say who
the person was. It was one of the other guests
at the convention TV person and he heard that I
was doing the interview and he's like, what will you
introduce me. I'm a big fan. I'm a big fan
of hers. And I was like, absolutely, just just come by.
(18:35):
You know, I'm gonna be doing the interview. You don't
interrupt the interview. But then when we're done, yeah, I'll
introduce you. And he said, yeah, I'm just like, she's
in my favorite movie of all time. I thought, oh,
what's this going to be, because I'm in my head,
I'm thinking what's his favorite. I'm thinking he's going to
say like Big Daddy or I didn't know what he
was going to say. And he said, oh, Mannekin two
and I was like, shut up, that is nobody's favorite
movie ever. What are you talking about. Don't say that
(18:57):
out loud. That's embarrassing. Just walk away, man, you're not
I'm not going to introduce you. Now, get out of here.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Nobody's favorite it's man too.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Oh come on, man, you're also big a fan of
the Office, Is that right?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Yes? They do. I love the Office. I mean I
like both the American and the British Office.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Catherine Tate who was on the American Office but is
British and it just seems so weird. Yeah. Also on
the Dragon con pregame show this year. I just interviewed her.
Oh nice, and yeah, she'll she'll be uh, she'll be there,
and it's always She says that it's the fandom for
the Office is just intense compared to the Doctor Who
Fantom that you would think would be the intense ones, right, Really.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
The Office fandoms more into the that I am shocked.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well, and maybe it's just because it was you know,
maybe more people in America saw The Office and knew, right.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's less of a genre show. I mean, it isn't
a genre show, so maybe it has a broader appeal. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Yeah, So if you want to meet Catherine Tate, by
all means, all t you ever to introduce you if
you want.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
To do that.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, that's your favorite movie that she was in was
man Okay, Okay, now that I think about it, I
should have just told him, hey, his favorite movie is
Mannequin too, and she probably would have said, shut up, no,
it's not I would think, can we talk about can
we talk about Reacher?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah? Of course.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
So you uh obviously you uh got to work with
with Alan again and and so and I know he
was always you know, kind of a big guy. But like,
was there enough of a gap between you seeing him
that all of a sudden, he's this giant monster of
a man, And like, what was your reaction when you
saw him?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Oh? Yeah, I mean he he had gained a ton
of muscle, just a lot of muscle. He's I mean,
I didn't work with him on small though, I don't
think and but but uh, yeah, he was shockingly large.
He really took it on, and he took on that
character and wanted to make him as ignormous as possible,
(21:04):
so so so he succeeded. I think he's really charming
in that role.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, and he's got that appeal to him. And I
watched the first season on my own, and then at
some point my wife was saying, you know, what's what's
something that we can watch? And I said, well, there's
a second season of Reacher coming out. It let's go back,
and I rewatched it with her, and I mean she
fell in love with him immediately. She's like, this guy's great.
And I say, yeah, I mean I understand why you
might know. He's you know, you know, built and huge
(21:32):
and enormous and all that, and but no, he's got
that appeal to him. Doesn't he There's just something kind
of charming about the guy in general.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
He's great. He's great in that role, and I think
he's easy to watch and the show's a lot of fun.
I think people wanted a fun television show that isn't
too too dark and twisty.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
More with Kristin Kruk right after this, what kind of
(22:10):
stuff you watch? I know you read a lot of books,
and I'll get to books in a second, but is
there anything you're watching right now? Or do you spend
all your time with your nose in a book?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
No? No, No, I watched things too. I mean i've been
I started watching Shogun when it came out, and then
I hadn't finished it. So I'm finishing off Chogun now,
which I think is a beautiful show. It's gorgeously shot.
It's shot in VC on the coast, and just I
think the acting is lovely. And Justin Marx, who is
(22:39):
one of the epis on it, wrote a really wonderful
movie I did called street Fighter the Legend of Chun Lee.
So I kind of like how his career has blossomed
since since that that endeavor of ours. Yeah, so I've
been watching that lately, I don't know if I've and
(23:00):
watching anything else. I've kind of been behind the Bear.
I like The Beth, but I haven't watched the latest
season yet.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh yeah, the to the books? Do you consider yourself?
And I didn't know that there was a difference between
a bookworm and a bibliophile. Do you see that there's
a difference between those two or do you think just
to me, those are synonymous? Right?
Speaker 3 (23:22):
They feel like synonymous? Yes? What is the difference?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I one is just like a bookworm is somebody who's
reading books all the time. And I guess a biblio
file is someone who appreciates books and is often reading them,
but maybe they're just collecting them or they're just you know, Oh,
but you're probably more of a book if you're reading.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
All the time.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Yeah, I think I'm probably both. I have shelves of books.
I like buying beautiful copies of books, but I also
am reading books a lot less when I'm working, obviously
for obvious reasons. But yes, I read all the time.
I just finished It's been on everyone every woman in
my edge. I've been reading Randigulyized All Fours, which is
(24:05):
a fantastic book that sort of explores perimenopause, and I
really's I mean, she's an incredible artist, all around artist,
and she's a really interesting, insightful and funny writer. And
I really enjoyed that book.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
Did your love for books in any way draw you
to playing because you're playing a librarian? I am so
was there any thinking like, Okay, I'm going to take this,
but this is what I need. I'm going to need
like many scenes in the library so that whenever we
we're not shooting, I can just thumbing through stuff.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, I didn't, because I should have. I love that
she's a librarian. And I did spend a lot of
time in the local library and Gibson's where we shot,
because we shot in their library, so really vibrant, functioning
library where people are always they're always there, there's always programs,
which is what's great about libraries because the community has
(25:00):
in their places where people can feel safe and people
can find information and people can connect with each other.
And yes, I love that that that's what I get
to do, and that's I hope we get to do
another season of the show, because she's a She's a
wonderful character, and I really liked I really liked playing
a lot.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I like your description of the library, but also for
people like me that I'm not crazy about loud noises
and you get away from that too in the library,
that's also good.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I can kind of use anxiety.
I think it's a place of safety for in many fasts,
in many ways.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
All Right, so you're you're Canadian. I was thinking about
a round of Canadian or Dead. It's a game I
like to play when I have a Canadian guest on
and you just name people and you tell me if
they're Canadian or dead. But I thought it might be
more fun instead of that to just go through a
couple of Canadian things and you can tell me like
yeah or no, or you know, some version of it.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Oh okay, sure.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Where they ran Nickelback. I'm starting tough. I know this
is hard, but I want to start with nickel.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, it's a divisive it's a divisive topic. I feel
like Nickelback is having a real renaissance and has been
a part of the cultural conversation redesigning their place within
within the music lands shape of Canada. Listen, I'm not
a Nickelback fan. That means nothing I am not a
connoisseur of music. I don't think there's anything wrong with them,
(26:22):
but I'm just not a fan.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
There's a documentary, So neay is what you're saying on that,
And so if I said yeah or nay, that would
they would be a NAE for nickelback for you. But
you're not hanging on them.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
You're just saying I'm not hating on them in any way.
It's just a name for me. I mean, will assume
that it's for me on all of.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
These there's a there's a documentary about them. I think
it goes on Netflix, and it kind of goes into
the hate and all that stuff, and so that's why
they're back on my mind again. I watched it right
after I watched uh, the one that Brat's on the
Brat pack, and they were kind of sound right, and
then it was like, you know, things were going great
and then all of a sudden everything gets de railed
(27:00):
and all the hate starts happening and all that. So
it's kind of a similar back to back watch. All right,
how about poutine?
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Funny, I've been talking about poutine a lot lately, so
I stopped eating meat and I became a pescatarian a
long time ago now, so I don't think I've ever
actually had a real poutine, which seems crazy, but again,
I'm from the West Coast and it's a real corDECT thing,
so theoretically I'm a ya, but I have never tried it.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
How about the kids in the Hall?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Ya, But again I feel like I'm just a little
too young.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
You're just a little younger than me. We're not far apart,
but I feel like I'm about half a generation ahead
of you. And that was huge for me, like as
a teen watching Kids in the Hall because again, probably
shouldn't have been watching it when I started watching it.
And yeah, but they still make me laugh a lot.
Beaver tails.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
A I like them, I wouldn't pursue them necessarily. I mean,
there's fried deliciousness. There are many versions of fried deliciousness
that I would like to consume and if that was
an option, for sure. Yea.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Do you know the song Rocks and Trees by the
Arrogant Worms.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I do not.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
It's it's it's an ode to Canada, and the main
lyrics are We've got rocks and trees and trees and
rocks and rocks and trees and trees and rocks and
rocks and.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Trees and.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Water are they throwing at the yea? I don't know
if you knew the song. It's great. And my wife,
who is is Australian, her mom is from Canada, so
technically my wife is half Canadian. And my kids are
quite proud of the fact that they've got Canadian heritage.
And that was one of the things that we made
sure when they were that was one of our you know,
riding in the car songs. We made sure we had
that song handy so that they can actually between that
(28:55):
and the Wiggles, we tried to rock you know, all
of the all of the homeland with that. How about
Alan Thick?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Alan Thick, God, I haven't thought about that guy a
long time. He has not crossed my mind. Do we
know a lot about Alan Thick?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Well, the only well I met Alan Thick, and he
was we had some we had a good time hanging
out for a little bit. But I but the reason
he was on my mind is when I was putting
together my Canadian or dead list, because he would be
both now right and I always like to throw it
at the end. One that's both. That was the way
the game usually works, And I used to use like
John Candy or somebody, but now so I was working
(29:42):
on that. That's why he was still on my list.
And what about Ryan Reynolds? I mean, is anybody having
a better life right now than Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
No, he's killing him, isn't he. I mean he's he's
a Vancouver boy. Yeah, yeah, from my from my hometown. Yeah,
good for him.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
He seems to just Yeah, did you watch him on
was it fifteen? Is that the show that he did
when he was a kid?
Speaker 3 (30:04):
Oh, I don't know. I think he was on The Odyssey,
which was another show that a lot of people were
on back then, which is a you should look at it.
It's a real it's the staple of Canadian Intellivision from
that time in the genre realm.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Well that maybe I should have just used that instead
of Ryan Reynolds or Allan Thick. I should have just
gone with the other. Yeah, exactly, that's where it should
have been. So we're getting ready for Dragon Con. It's
next weekend. Anything you want to say to the fans
that'll be coming to see this will be great because
this is your first dragon Con so you're going to
get You're going to get it kind of a larger
(30:38):
group in that regard, because you know, some of the
people that come every four or five years, you know,
maybe people have seen them before. You're going to have
all fresh people.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, I'm excited. I haven't done a convention in that
area in a long time too, So yeah, I mean,
I'm just looking forward to seeing everybody and talking about
you know, the show so much about books people. I'm
just excited to meet everybody. It'll be lovely.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
And I've got to warn you it's it's going to
be like really really hot. I know you're I don't
know that you spend Yeah, it's we're just boiling down
here right now. Over the next couple of weeks. It's
going to be rough. So just a heads up on that.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Thank you, Thank you for the warning.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I try and you know, and we try to remind
our listeners also that you know, take a shower, deodorant.
You're in a costume. It may be leather, it may not,
I don't know, there may be holes in it. Sometimes
you got a little ventilation, but you still want to
make sure to shower and hydrate and deodorant. For crying
out loud.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, yes, and reapply. I always need to reapply during
the day.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Kristin, thank you so much. Really looking forward to seeing
you at dragon Con next weekend.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Yes me as well.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
A mom that lifts joins us.
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