Banned in Norway Satudarah Outlawed to Stop Gang Violence

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Can it happen? Can a motorcycle club be put out
of a country? The question is it going to happen
more frequently? I guess that's the question. Are we going
to see this more in the First World Western countries

(00:41):
where freedom of speech and association is supposed to reign supreme.
Are motorcycle clubs going to do enough to get themselves banned?
As time goes forward, we're seeing all kinds of stuff,

(01:03):
shootings in the streets, all kinds of stuff, and now
we're seeing things like this. We're going to talk about
it today and we're going to talk about a few
things banned in Norway, Saturdorah outlaw to stop gang violence.
This is an interesting story today that we're looking at

(01:26):
and I'll get into it with you when we get
it on, but we're going to dive into this international
news pass. Norway officially banned the saturdaya motorcycle club, declaring
the organization of criminals association or is it just a
local thing. We'll be looking at it also. We're going
to be looking at motorcycle clubs across the nation that

(01:49):
are doing great things. You know, we want to take
this amount of time this time of this year to
show motorcycle clubs doing good things. When we do good things,
they never seem to remember. When we do bad things,
they never seem to forget. But we we have to
uplift those that are doing good things out there in
the community. And also should the question of the day,

(02:10):
should today's motorcub clubs use social media and the internet
to recruit, share information and display their colors? Is it
good for visibility? Does it create or does it create
unnecessary heat? Or is transparency the new era of MC culture.
We want to hear from you today in the comments
and live chat. What do you think Should today's motorcub

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clubs be used in the internet and social media at all?
Should they use it to recruit? Should they not use it?
What do you guys think? We'll be talking about those
things and several others as we four way foray into
the heading towards the end of the year. This December

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the second, twenty twenty five, we're wrapping things up, heading
towards the end of the year. It's going to be
Christmas soon and we'll be headed for New Year. Those
of us who survived to see it. That'll be a
good thing. All right, so back in a minute and
seven seconds after this brief introduction, Thank you guys for

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What's going on? Black Dragon was going down and everybody,
everybody where's that.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Man Satador motorcycle club where they actually banned. This is
an interesting story because I can't really verified. I think
this is really a story that came from another story
that happened last year in October. That's what I think

(06:09):
this is and just recycled for today, which you know
papers do that. I don't know who this paper is,
the Daily Asian, but it could be a paper, an
online paper in Asia that's running some old news, but

(06:34):
I thought it would be interesting because I think I've
actually found where this story came from. And this may
be from last year. However, the reason I want to
talk about it is in light of a lot of
things that are going on, it becomes So this was
published at twelve o'clock am this morning, but I think

(06:59):
it actually comes from a new story that happened here
in October ninth, twenty twenty four, a year ago, where
it says Norway bans a local chapter of the motorcycle
club Saturdura. Here it says Norway bans motorcycle clubs to

(07:22):
stop gang violence. When I first saw this, I was like, wow,
did Norway ban all motorcycle clubs? So when you get
into this story, it looks a lot like this one,
so you can see. But this story is only about
three paragraphs and it's gone. So this story is what one, two, three, four, five,

(07:48):
six paragraphs and it's gone. So I didn't I don't
know if this is a actual newer rendition of the
story or not, but it is an interesting story because
it absolutely could signal things that are going on internationally.

(08:10):
So the story says Norway bands motorcycle clubs to stop
gang violence. And this is from the Asian the Dailyasianage
dot com. So they have a lot of stuff going
abound about Asian stuff. And the widely feared organization originated
in the Netherlands and has chapters. So this is about Satadura,

(08:34):
the motorcycle club, and this is I didn't understand this
when I first read this. This is actually the caption
for this picture. So here's where the story begins. Norway's
highest court on Wednesday called the Norwegian arm of the
Dutch motorcycle club Satadura a criminal association and banned the group,
saying it was necessary to prevent crime. Well, this says
on Wednesday, and what makes me think that this is

(09:01):
just a recycled story is because it said the same
thing on the last one Wednesday in October of twenty
twenty four. So it calls this the Norwegian Armor of
the Dutch Mocarle Club a criminal association of banned the group,
saying it was necessary to prevent serious crime. This may
have just been a local chapter, the Supreme Court said.
Participants in the club, known for a history of violent crime,

(09:23):
extortion and legal drug trade and arms trafficking, allegations repeatedly
committed serious offenses against someone's life. It says health and freedom,
and that their actions were apt to cause fear in
the population. So this is why it becomes a really
interesting story, even if it wasn't, even if it's a

(09:44):
year old, and even if it was only a local chapter.
Here we see a motorcycle club has been banned from
a Western democracy in Norway, And you know what does
that resound for motorcycle clubs across the world and what

(10:08):
we consider to be free countries. I mean, you wouldn't
this wouldn't if this was like a third world country
somewhere where you have dictators and stuff, you could imagine
that that happens. They're probably fairly easy. You can fall
in the wrong side of the government you're out here,
But to be thrown out of a Western country, and

(10:28):
they don't have as much freedoms as we supposedly have
in the United States. But we're seeing this come to
the United States. We saw this happen with the Mongols.
They tried to take their entire patch from them and
make it illegal for them to wear it. So we're
seeing these kinds of things happen. The Court added that

(10:49):
although and this is interesting, and when we talk about
e roading, we talked about e roading MC culture, watch this.
Even the court's going to jump on their ass. Watch this.
The court added that all those that are do were
described itself as a motorcycle club and it's open to
ethnic minorities. Participants don't even need to have a motorcycle

(11:11):
or a license to join.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Do you see that?

Speaker 1 (11:14):
The court? How's the court going to call your ass out?
How's the court going to call you out? The court says, yeah,
you call your motorcylial motorcycle club, but you don't even
have to have a motorcycle or a motorcycle license to join.

(11:35):
Stop playing. And even though you're open to ethnic minorities,
nor does the club aim to promote promote multi ethnic interests,
it wrote, So in this opinion, it's calling the whole
thing of sham. You're not even a motorcycle club. You
have to have a motorcycle or a license to join,
and you say that you're open to ethnic minorities, but

(11:58):
you don't promote any more ethnic interests. Are you even
the real damn thing? They're asking them? That's why I
want to put your lass up out of here because
you're just a gang, is what they're saying. The Supreme
Court also noted that the gang see that describes itself

(12:18):
as a so called one percent club, a term normally
used for motorcycle clubs that live on the fringes of
society's laws and rules. You know, a lot of you
guys that are starting new clubs need to really seriously
consider do you need that one percent diamond moniker? Do

(12:39):
you really need that one percent diamond moniker? You can
be outlaw all day long and not have that patch
that diamond. It brings a lot of BS to a bro.
I was thinking, you know, if I start my own club,

(13:01):
maybe I want to be a one percenter this time.
But then I see what you see. I see what

(13:21):
happens to the rest of these boos. I'd be like, man, bro,
stop playing with me. Stop playing with me. I stopped
playing with me. H. I think maybe if I had
it to do, I don't know, man, there's just so
much bs.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
You know, that was asked. That was asked of me.
Since coming up in the Metroplex and going to different
clubs and being getting to know the on cs around here,
and there's like if you if you were to joined
at MC. This was asked, if you was to join

(14:04):
at MC, which MC would you join? I know you
go do the most cycle ministries before we started, but
which one would you join? I said, well, if I
was the person I was in college, I probably would join.
And I named the OMC and they stared at me
and they said written. I said yeah. I said, because
you would join the club that will but closely match

(14:27):
your personality and that gave them. They looking at me like,
but you're a preacher. I said, I wasn't a preacher
in college. That's why. That's why God knew. That's why
God knew when to give me a motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
The Supreme Court also noticed that the gang described itself
as a one percent club and they're mad and they're
mad about that. According to Norwegian broadcaster n Our Case
Saturduah set foot in Norway in twenty fourteen. I remember
when satur Duah got to Norway. I remember that last

(15:02):
year police as coorts to ban Satadora because of its
alleged criminal activities, which were said to include drug offences
and violent classes with other gangs. The club originated in
the Netherlands. Where it was started by mostly Malucan immigrants.
I don't know. Forgive me for being ignorant. I don't

(15:22):
know what a Malucan is. What is what is a Malucan?
Where do they come from? Malucan. There's a Malucan cockatoo.
There's some Lucan islands. Okay, so let us ask what
is a Malucan. I don't know. We'll find out. A
Mulucan can referred to a person from the Molucas Islands

(15:44):
in Indonesia, or a specific type of large salmon crested
cockatoo native to the Red Yeah, we saw the bird,
but okay, so it's a person from some islands in Indonesia.
The term is usually describe a large diaspora people primarily
from the Malucas who live in the Netherlands. Okay, So

(16:06):
a Milucan immigrant is somebody from these islands in Indonesia
that live in the Netherlands. I got it, uh okay,
And they are native inhabitants of the Malucas. An island
group in Indonesia are ethnically diverse and included people of
Austronesian and Melanesian descent. Their population is significant in Indonesia,

(16:29):
with a major population in the Netherlands. Okay, so it
was Netherlands Miluccans that started the club Saadura. It's name
means one blood in Indonesian Malay Malay. The Dutch authorities

(16:50):
eventually banned it, as did Germany. It's somebody say.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
You do it all of that? They black people?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Are they black? Are they are?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
They?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Are? They? Are they black? What? Okay?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
So?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
What color? I didn't know that. What color is a Malucan?
Are they black? I know?

Speaker 2 (17:14):
Love is right?

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Uh? What color is a Lukan parakeet? What color is
a Malucan person? Damn it? Uh? Dark skin? Okay, white eyes,
curly hair, black, it says, uh, dark skin with white

(17:44):
eyes and curly hair. Though physical appearances can vary due
to mixed ancestry and regional differences, the Malaysian roots connect
them physically to indigenous people and regions like Papaul and Australia. Okay,
they are often considered hearing that this black here, it
is black, the black attack right there? Okay, now we

(18:09):
know no, Okay, it makes sense now. So The Clever
originated in the Netherlands, where it started by mostly black immigrants.
Its name means one blood in Indonesian Malay. The Dutch
authorities eventually banned it, as did Germany in twenty fifteen.
In neighboring Denmark, the local chapter dissolved itself in May

(18:30):
of twenty twenty third and became the Comanches EMC. This
is interesting that they would become the Comanches EMCES because
the Comanches are from Oklahoma, New Mexico, Texas, and they
never existed anywhere but America. So it's interesting that they

(18:52):
would become the Comanches EMC in Denmark. Interesting, isn't it.
In Sweden, the chapter was added after all of its
members were arrested for drug related offenses and gun possession.
In Europe, Satadua MC has established a local presence in Austria, Bosnia, Serbia, Belgium, France,

(19:13):
Spain and elsewhere. Sweden's gang violence has escalated to the
point where it's homicide rate linked to gang warfare is
now the highest in Europe. You don't ever think of
Sweden like that, with shooters often being minors. Damn. There's
an average of one shooting per day for every ten
million inhabitants. In twenty and twenty twenty three, fifty three

(19:34):
people were killed in shootings. That's a lot for Europe. Like,
you know, fifty three people is not like Schiraq over here,
where four hundred people die this summer. You know. Yeah,
that's a lot for them over there. So I got
to hang out with Saturdura members here in Georgia. They're here, actually,

(19:58):
it got to hang up out with some of them
up in the North Georgia mountains up there in near Helen, Georgia.
Maybe three months ago, it might have been like three
months ago, two or three months ago. Two months ago
maybe T and I were up and in Helen, Georgia,
enjoying the scenery as we were establishing our love affair

(20:22):
and setting ourselves up for the marriage that we will
be entering into our lifetime pursuit of one another, we
thought we would go to the mountains up there and
enjoy the scenery and be one with ourselves and of

(20:44):
course the dogs. And so up there we went, and
it was beautiful and it was refreshing, you know, and

(21:07):
then we run into a damn biker club one percenter
cats pull up, you know. And the bad thing is,
wherever I go, if there are freaking bikers, like I

(21:28):
can't like, like they know me, you know what I mean?
And so you got these one percenters getting off their
motorcycles looking real crazy over at me, Like I wonder
if those guys know me? And did I say something
bad about their motorcycle club one time? You never know,
you never know. Ah, but they turned out to be that.

(21:50):
You know. I don't know why one percenters have to
get off their motorcycles looking so damn mean, get off
your motorcycle looking nice sometimes. But anyway, they they came
up and they said you must be Black Dragon, and
we know you. We've seen you out there and we
followed you. And I was like, wow, they know who

(22:15):
I am. Ah, Hi, what do you think? No, No,
I'm not married yet. I'm not married yet. We're not

(22:38):
getting married until next month. I put up one picture
of a wedding we went to and everybody's congratulations BD.
You ready for the big showdown this Saturday at three pm?
Good dogs? Sick of what big showdown? Oh the Georgia? Yes? Yes,

(22:58):
why because he adopts dogs like a crazy cat lady
he seems married. No, I don't adopt dogs like a
cat lady. That's not my dog. By the way, he
stole the dog. He stole.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
He stole the dog. He stole the dog. He keeps saying, no,
we're not there. He keeps saying. The man keeps bringing
his dog over there and saying, I'm gonna come get him.
I'm gonna come get him. And Black Dragon keeps feeding
the dog. See, and he's buying the dog collars and everything.
That is his dog. You don't do that for a
neighbor's dog. You till the neighbor's dog go home, go

(23:36):
to your own home.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
The This is what's said. The man asked me yesterday,
can you keep my dog? No? He asked me if
it was okay if he took his dog home. You
know what I'm saying. See, I said, it's your dog.
Of course it's okay, he said, Or do you mind
keeping him to night? The dog can stay here?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
So okay? So, so is this your niagh? Is okay?
Is this this neighbor? I don't know where you live at?
Is that next door to you? Is it? Is it
a house complex?

Speaker 4 (24:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
No? So this is my office right here, I know you.
And behind my office is uh is the uh? These
guys from I think they're from Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Or something. And they.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
They have a car shop. They fixed cars and paying
and repair cars. And I always cuss them out every
day because they're making too much noise or whatever. They
know they have to be quiet between ten and twelve.
They know that. And they had a dog that they
were keeping, and that they were leaving it in the
car overnight and stuff. Uh, And I found out because

(24:54):
the guy was sick. He went to the hospital, but
the guys around there weren't taking care of the dog.
So I I went and opened the car and took
the dog. You can't be in a car around my office, bro,
that ain't happen.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I heard him, right, y'all hurt him right. He went
to side inside somebody else's personal property and took something
out of it.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
I took dogs out of the car. I could have
called I could have called a SPCA on the ass.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You could have then you wouldn't be you wouldn't be
a thief.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
So I got the dog. And then the next day, Uh,
he's screaming, where's my dog. He's where's my dog?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
My dogbody stole my dog.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
I opened the door and there he saw his dog,
and he just just like, ah, dragon, thank you they
called me dragon over here. So now he's working all
day long. And what does he do. He sticked the
dog back in the car, and the dog is looking
at My dog's run around and play while it's stuck

(25:59):
in the car.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
So I went and opened and liberated it, right, went
liberated it.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I liberated it. I let it out, and he looked
over and saw that the dog was running with my dogs,
and he was like, he can't do nothing with the
damn dog all day, so he can run with my dogs.
She can run with my dogs. And so, uh, then
he left the dog for like a week or two,
just left the dog with me, and so the dog

(26:27):
runs away and stuff. It's got to have a tracking caller,
so I can't lose that man's dog. So you've made
your money. No, you know something, and this is how
we know it's his dog and he doesn't make a
lot of money. And matter he says to me, Dragon,

(26:47):
how much money did you spend on giving you all
that money back?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Because I want my dog back.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Okay, he's clearly established that this is his dog, so
he's uh be giving me all this money.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
To day when the when the neighbors dogs are in
my yard, or they come over here like the cat
because you're evil like, No, I'm not evil, like I'll sing.
I'll be sending in my garage watching television, you know,
sitting by the bike. And the cat comes up to
our screen and he looks and I said, I'm sorry,
you can't come in because you don't live here, So
go back to your house. I don't shoot it off,

(27:24):
I don't throw anything at it. I just say, you're
not coming in.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Oh my goodness, no, bro, I couldn't have that dog
laying out so now. But I told him, you do
not have to ask my permission to take your dog.
And the best batterish I could come up.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Evidently he evidently he felt like he did have to
have permission to get his dog back.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I told I told the the owner of his uh
of of the business back there. They're laughing at me, draggon,
you took his dog, they say, I said, I'm not
the only one. I said, that is not my dog.
They're all laughing at me. They are are laughing at me.
That's your dog. The church next door. Dragon, you got
a new dog. No, I do not have a new dog.

(28:13):
Mama and Ranger understand. She says our neighbors. Dogs spent
the night before all on our own. The neighbors don't
really worry about her. See, they don't worry about the
dog when you take care of the dog. So she
would run away, Well, I would take her to walk
with me and the dog. I cannot come back here
without that man's dog.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
He worries about that dog so much, so the dog
has no recall, Like, he doesn't spend enough time with
the dog. You call her her name, and she keeps running.
So I had to get a tractive caller for her,
so she can't get away. I can't lose that man's dog.
Man can't. So I don't care what you say. Man,

(28:56):
that's not kay Wayne, says dog napper. Confirm you should
start an animal sanctuary. The biker doctor Doolittle. Uh, and
you know something. Everything eats here. I have food out
for the birds. The squirrels eat, the groundhogs eat the uh,

(29:17):
the straight cats. I feed the stray cats. They come through.
Everything eats here. There's food for everything. Everything that's out
there eats here. They have food. There's bird there's bird
feeding things out there and a bird bath. There's everything
you need to eat at the dragons.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
There, you have lasagna. I'm coming.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
If I know you will have it.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
I have laign.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
If I know you're coming, We'll have lasagna. Oh my goodness.
And yes, I take all three on my walks. Take
all three on my walks, and none of them suckers
have leashes.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Bro, That's how he got in trouble.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Anyway, we're going to see more of that's happening, and
we have to be careful in the biker club world.
You guys have to understand. Man, they are coming after
us big time. They're shutting down motorcycle.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Club Let me ask the question, and I'm trying to
I want to frame this correctly. But and it's been
going on. This is nothing new. Uh, it's been going
on law enforcement attack and going after motorcycle clubs with
our new way of living here in the United States.

(30:31):
I know this club is overseas, but our new way
of living in the United States and actually overseas to Russia.
To once the government labels an organization or supposed organization
and give them a title, then that gives the government

(30:53):
all the rights that they need under the under the
law to do what they want to ban it, to
kick it out, to charge it, to do whatever. How
do you stop? You see what I'm saying. You can't.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
You can't.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
And I know we're talking about outlaw motorcycle clubs, but
this can happen to nine to nine percent clocks.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
It can happen to we just had an interview with
And that's why I first jumped on this story because
the story initially read Norway bands motorcycle club see that?
And I thought when I first saw this this morning,
twelve am December twenty five, I thought that this was

(31:36):
the first Western country to say no motorcycle clubs whatsoever
at all. Period. Story is coming, That's what I thought.
I thought it was over in Norway, and I was
reading this like, oh my god, it just happened. But
the story was misleading. We call that clickbait. This story

(31:58):
was a little bit misleading. It was really just talking
about one motorcycle club. And when you come to the
original story here, it might not even be that that
club is banned in all of Norway. It says local
Norway bans a local chapter of the club Satadua. That
was the original story. So how that became Norway bans

(32:21):
all motorcycle clubs was very interesting to me. But as
I looked into it, they did in twenty fifteen ban
Satadua in Germany. That did happen, and they did ban
it in another place. I think it was Denmark. I
remember covering that story. So it's not crazy that it

(32:44):
could be banned from the whole state, the whole city,
And so I put the story up for us to
think about it. If it hasn't happened, it is progressing
to that. If it hasn't happened. See according to the
let me see where was it? The Dutch authorities eventually

(33:05):
banned it. So it was banned by the Dutch authorities
and Germany banned in twenty fifteen. In neighboring Denmark, the
local chapter sided Dura dissolved itself in May and became
the Comanches. In Sweden, the chapter was disbanded after all
its members were arrested for drug related offenses and gun possessions.

(33:26):
So this motorcycle club has been targeted all throughout Europe
and it continues to be targeted. I did meet some
of the guys from that class of here, I say,
and they were really cool dudes.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
You know you didn't answer my question.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
What was the question? I'm sorry, I thought I just
went through a whole soliloquy here.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
And I know, I know we're talking about a motorcycle clubs,
but this type of thing doesn't always necessarily have to
be with them. You get social clubs, motorcycle ministriescycle Christian
motorcycle club. It can be any club once the government

(34:12):
gives them a title and labels them. Because the government
all of a sudden, I don't like them. Oh, I
don't like the person that's leading it. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:21):
I had started to answer a question. I got off
on a tangent. I know.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
That's why I didn't want to cut you off. I
waited for you to take a breath.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
I was just interviewing Cell Block one percenter a few
days ago here at the Dragons. There he went to
jail for six months for being a member of the outcast,
and they they wanted to find out more information about

(34:51):
the shooting that happened here in Georgia, so they pulled
him off the street on a parole violation. The violation
was he had a box cutter in his car, so
they basically told him, hey man, we want to know
more information, or we're going to violate you and put
you back in jail. And so he took this violation.

(35:15):
He went to jail for six months for a crime
that that he was never charged for. He was never
charged for participating in the shooting that killed the two
Wheels of Soul. He was never charged for that, but
he did go to jail for six months for. One
of the things that he told me in that interview
was that the police department, the FEDS that he was facing,

(35:37):
told him, we see all you guys the same. All
of you guys, we see the same.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Thank you very much. That's really one same.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Because what does it take to be a game? It
doesn't take a one grist of people diamond is that
it now looks like a almost It doesn't take a
diamond to be a gang? Right, what does it take?
What does it take? What's the definition of a gang?

Speaker 2 (36:07):
A group of people?

Speaker 1 (36:08):
We went through that before. It's three or more people,
not a group of people. It's specifically three or more
people wearing the same clothing or identifying to the same ideal.
You don't even have to wear clothes, you could just
be on the same thing. We could call ourselves all logics.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You know what here in Dallas years ago, years ago,
years ago, Well, you went to me and two other
people went to the state their and had the same
shirt on, and they told us we couldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Yeah, they sorry, we're not looking for.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, yeah, but how do you? I mean, but you
can't once you get labeled that, you can't stop it.
Let And to your point, I was told when I
used to go I used to go to pretty often
because I was trying to get, you know, no, to
understand to know the culture, going to the one of
the omc's out the full Worth. And they used to

(37:06):
say to me, all right, logic, be careful when you
when you leave, because police are high. And I'm like,
oh man, they ain't bother me, they ain't bothered me.
I got I got Harley Davidson on my best. But
then I was told later it says this, well, logic,
trust me, if they've seen you hanging around us and
coming here ever so often and leaving here, they have

(37:26):
already investigated you. Mm hmm mm hmm. I was told
that they have already investigated you. They know where you live,
they know how far are you riding. They know, they
know who you are. You got a license plate on
your motorcycle because they hang around our clubhouse all the time.
They see this civilian coming. Okay, well, who's this guy?

Speaker 1 (37:47):
They probably they you know, they may well Black Dragon
the Midnight ghost Writer. How much have I lost? How
much weight have I lost?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Well?

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I started off at like about three hundred seventy pounds
and I got down to three hundred and six pounds,
So I lost sixty four pounds this year. That's what
I lost. I gained weight over Thanksgiving. I gained like

(38:18):
seven or eight pounds, so I think I'm three fifteen
right now. But I started losing that again last night,
so I'm back on my diet. I should have this
six pounds off in the next two or three days.
So right now, somewhere between sixty pounds is what I've

(38:39):
lost and I'm still on it. I'm on it dot
gonnet and I just had my A one C yesterday
and my A one C is a six point two,
so I'm doing okay. I'm doing doing okay.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
And Modo Gotto said they do it to lmc's two.
So what this what what?

Speaker 1 (39:02):
And we've seen that we have seen l EMCs be
targeted by police departments. But what uh sell block one
percent told me was the Feds told him that unless
you're an l EMC or Christian motorcycle ministry, we see
you guys all as gangs or potential gangs because you know,

(39:26):
you do have ninety nine percenters that sell dope and
run prostitutes and stuff like that. And and you don't
have to be in a motorcycle club to do all that.
You don't have to be, but you don't have to
be a one percenter to do all that either. There
are plenty nine nine percenters that do that just fine.

(39:47):
And uh it looks like uh black dragons saw the
video because he said they don't look at Christian clubs
like that, and and that's what that's what he said,
unless you are a Christian club. Uh yeah, uh chunk, Uh.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
They don't look at they don't look at Christian clubs.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Like what like outlaw motorcycle games. Well, we was told
or I'm motorcycle ministries, is what he said, motorcycles.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
We were told that when when they when the cops
were pulling everybody over down in the Houston Iten area.
I ain't gonna say the cities, and they said even
he said, even those motorcycle ministries can get pulled up
because they rolling down with six or seven. They don't
know who you are until they pull pull you over.
That anybody can hide behind a ministry name.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
If you were smart, you would, if you were smart,
he would be the baddest one percent motorcycle club on
earth and you'd be called Jesus Disciples. Why why wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Isn't that? Isn't that one of the things, Black Dragon?
That this is what I heard grow growing up, coming up.
That's what I heard, and this is why we are
the way we operating God's Warriors is a little bit
different that. The reason why a lot of omc's not
everyone so I know, we got one per centers on there.
Not everyone don't like or don't look down on the

(41:12):
ministries is because people try to get away from protocol
by going into a ministry.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well, yes, I've heard that, and it's true. It's true
because every every place where there's something good, but it's human,
there'll be somebody human to come mess it up. So
when we are so there were times when places were closed,
Like there was a time when I came to Houston.

(41:40):
When I came to Texas with the Black Sabbath in
two thousand and nine, it was closed. You weren't coming
into Texas. And if you were a black club, it
was very difficult to get in to Texas at that time.
And so they would grant, they would kind of leave

(42:04):
certain kinds of clubs alone. So if you were a
motorcycle ministry, they might be like, oh, yeah, okay, well
you're here for Jesus and Jesus too, so here you are.
And then so those guys might not have had to
go through everything like we had to go through. We
had to go through a rigorous thing to get into Texas.

(42:24):
It was not easy. We had to go through the
COEC and all this kind of business. Blah blah blah.
This was long before there were any black clubs running Texas,
running the black clubs in Texas, so you actually had
to go through the bandidos and the COEC and all
of that. But they might have given some Christian clubs
a break motorcycle ministries. And then you got all these

(42:47):
guys in motorcycle ministry and they look just like you do.
They're grimy and grungy. And hair laid out and everything
and looking crazy. But then you go to you go
to the strip club. They're in the strip club harder
than you're hollering at the horse and the guy that

(43:08):
taking hits of speed, harder than spoon fools of speed,
harder than you guys are taking spoon fools of speed.
You know, we have to always really, did you say
the spoons? Did you go basebly that spoon spoons? So
all of a sudden you're like, well, wait a minute, hey,
what's up Ganda? Uganda, Africa is on our on our

(43:29):
channel day? What's up Uganda? Man, It's good to see
you guys right well, wild wide worldwide, Black Dragon and
Logic and Lavish worldwide. So they were all of a
sudden they're like, well.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
My guy, but what are you saying? What are you saying?
That's not true? My guy said, that's not true. I
don't know what he's talking about though. That's old. I
was checked out before. That's not true, is it. There's
a motorcycle Christian club in Pennsylvania. Where's a diamond patch? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Uh. A Christian club and a motorcycle ministry are two
different things. Let that be understood. Black Sabbath motorcycle Club
is a Christian club. We have a cross on our back.
That's not the same thing as a motorcycle ministry. So
there is a club called Christian MC that wears a

(44:21):
diamond in Texas. They're not a motorcycle ministry. They're a
Christian club. They're club of Christians who, if you look
at it, the Infidels is a Christian club. Not necessarily
are they a motorcycle ministry at all, whatsoever. Period.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
But my main point, my main point was that soon
as the government labels any club, any organization, it can
be a gleek club, you know, because they want to
go after them. Then all of a sudden that club
is in violation in them every law that they can
they can throw at you. Like the gentleman you said

(45:05):
you had on it. They pulled them over, they said
they violated them for a box cutter. Okay, all right,
So all of a sudden, my organization because they don't
like my leader, my organization is a terrorist organization. So
now terrorists can't have any type of weapons, even though
you can carry weapons here in Texas. But your organization
is a terrorist organization, or your organization is a gang

(45:28):
affiliated organization or your organization is a gang. So you
can't have a weapon just because we want to go
after right, Okay, That's that's where I was getting at.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
And that's something that that cell block one percenter said
in the interview. I said, a box cutter, you could
You couldn't have gone to jail for no box cutter
in your work truck. And he said, the federal government
can do anything it wants. Yep to you, big hooch,
Big hooch, put some spoons up. Don't forget to put

(46:07):
sponges up while you're out.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
No, no, no, no, don't be trying to see you're
trying to pass the buck again.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
There you don't you know, Oh my goodness, I'll never
forget that. What's that on your knees? Sponges? They look
like sponges.

Speaker 2 (46:22):
See how he's trying to they see how he's trying
to switch the subject off of him.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Kay, Wayne said Black Jagon, Where might I purchase a
nice spoon of math? I thought they measured it in spoonfools, bro,
That's what I thought. In Denmark they shut down the
bandidos since October twenty twenty five. Yes, they did, tongue.
They sure did. I remember covering that. This just in

(46:50):
I just saw this. This is about the shooting that
happened in Phoenix yesterday or over the weekend. It looks
like they're starting to finally untangle this. You know, we
report on this stuff before. I mean, they put these
reports up. They don't know what's going on, and so
now I think they're finally starting to get down to
what's going on. Probably after watching US here action, you're

(47:12):
learning a.

Speaker 5 (47:13):
Lot more tonight about a deadly shooting involving two motorcyclists.
Phoenix police say that one of them shot and killed
the other and then they were hit and killed by
a car.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
There's a lot to break down here. Steve Nielsen joins
his Live with what happened and possible motives involved.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Yeah, well, you're right, John, there is a lot to
break down here in this one one of those pieces
of evidence out there that police are.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
There's a lot to break down, and you don't know
about anything you're talking about.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
We're trying to go through a violent video that's been
posted on social media, recorded by a witness there. Police
would love to use it. There's a few problems with it. One,
they're still trying to confirm its authenticity. That's something you
have to deal with in an AI world right now.
But two, they're still trying to track down the person
that recorded that video.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Not Gonna happen Mobile command.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
And flashing lights under the seventeen overpass at seventh a
Friday night. The scene was very different than the crash
officers thought. They were responding to very confusing scene.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Detective's work for multiple hours trying to piece out what happened.
It's tragic. It's a tragic incident. I'm very concerning for
our community as well.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
Sergeant Jen zach Now says Scott Keikis and Job Martinez
were both on motorcycles and got into some dispute when
Martinez shot and killed kikiS. Moments later, a driver hit
and killed Martinez. The driver left the scene, but was
close by and didn't answer any questions.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
According to zach individual saw the person getting shot and
did hit the person that was doing the shooting. As
for how that all ties into this whole scene, whether
he was a third party unknown, we're still working on any.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Details for that.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Zach says.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
They're investigating online claims about possible connections to motorcycle games.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
We are hearing a lot of those rumors, are getting
that information, people are calling in tips about it, and
all of that information is something that we are looking
into and diligently.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I just spoke with one of them this Yeah, calling
in tips because tips. Yes, of course they are, and
they're probably in motorcycle clubs.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Doo, I got something for you.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
Yeah, this morning, they're working on working hard on trying
to figure out exactly what who all everyone that's involved.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Ki Kis was a father and husband. His wife didn't
want to speak yet about her husband. Local businesses say
police have obtained some surveillance video.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Let's go back to this for a second. You better
believe that they ain't talking about everything they know, So
just keep that, keep that we don't know anything. We're
trying to piece stuff together. They ain't talking about ninety
percent of.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
What they know.

Speaker 5 (49:55):
Those rumors, We are getting that information, people are calling
in tips about it, and all of that information is
something that we are looking into. Our detectives are working diligently.
I just spoke with one of them this morning. They're
working on, working hard on trying to figure out exactly
what who all everyone that's involved.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
Ki Kis was a father and husband. His wife didn't
want to speak yet about her husband. Local businesses say
police have obtained some surveillance video and as of this moment,
no one has been charged yet with anything involved here.
Keep in mind, police believe there is likely more witnesses

(50:31):
out there, more video possibly out there as well. They're
hoping if you have any of that info get it
to them as they try to piece together everything that happens.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Here.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
The number to contact them for it a witness and
you can remain anonymous reporting lives.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Steve Elson Foxton.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
Here's another thing to keep in mind, and this is
for all you folks.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
That that are in this world.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
What did the shooter do? Or what did the guy
who run ran over the guy do? What did he do?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
He didn't open his mouth?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
And what did they do?

Speaker 2 (51:05):
They let him go?

Speaker 1 (51:10):
They didn't one more time for sure for the people
in the in the nosebleed section? What what did the
guy do who ran over the guy?

Speaker 2 (51:16):
He kept his trap shut?

Speaker 1 (51:21):
That should be motorcycle club training one on one. Absolutely,
it should be one presider of trainer, one one on one.
It should be motorcycle club training. One away, shut up,
don't say anything. Quiet, It's what what it should be.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
Is there any questions?

Speaker 1 (51:41):
According to Zach, did you hear that.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
Questions?

Speaker 1 (51:46):
According to one more time here.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Left the scene but was close by and didn't answer
any questions.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
According to Zach, individually still saw the person getting shot
and did hit the person that was doing the shooting.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
As for how that all ties into this, it didn't
answer a single fing question. He didn't say anything. So anyway,
here's the brief. The Phoenix police investigators said a dispute
between two motorcycles resulted. One guy's name was Job Martinez.
The other guy he shot and killed Scott Kike's. Martinez

(52:22):
was then fatally struck by a driver that they haven't
named after the shooting. The investigation is complicated by police
attempts to verify the authenticity of the violent cell phone
video of the incident, which has not yet been traced
to its original poster, amid an age of concern over
artificial intelligence manipulation. Interesting police say one motorcyclist shot and

(52:43):
killed the other very confusing. Scene detectors worked multiple hours
to peace out what happened. Zach said the textas are
trying to determine if the driver was a third party,
a witness or not. We do know that the individual
saw that the saw the person getting shot and did
hit the person doing the shooting. As to how that
ties into the whole scene, they say they don't know.

(53:05):
The investigation is complicated by the violent cell phone video
that's all over social media now of the shooting that
police are attempted to confirment if it's authentic or not.
Citing challenges during this age of artificial intelligence, I think
artificial intelligence needs to be banned. I'm tired of looking at.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
Do you know that? I wish I would have brought
that article up, but it had nothing to do with motorcycles.
But since we're talking about AI that some judge had,
they said, just the first time somebody tried to present
evidence in a courtroom with AI and the judge figured
it out. The judge figured it out right off, they said,

(53:49):
and through the case. They said.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
No.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
They tried to fight it one time and just said no.
Then the news article was like, this is how you
can tell. But the more you can tell, the more
the better they get at it and said, now you know,
like they said you know, people come up with a
video they have black dragon flying through the air.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
You know what I mean, real dragon? We found it.
In April twenty twenty five, a man named Jerome d
Wall tried to use an AI generated avatar to argue
his case in a New York State Supreme Court hearing,
but the judges immediately halted the presentation and expressed anger
at being misled. The attempt was shut down, with the
judge dating the courtroom could not be used as a

(54:27):
platform for business, highlighting the tension between new technology and
established legal system, while later apologized to the court, explaining
he had some technical difficulties and the avatar was used
to present a polish argument as he was representing himself. Wow, Wow, Yeah,
I think this AA I should here's the story. I

(54:49):
think this AI stuff should be banned. Bro. I'm so
tired of turning on Google to see a woman wrestling
a bear and I thought it was real till the
bear's hand turns into a foot or something, and you're like.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
A friend of mine, a friend of mine, an associate
of mine. Just she just put up a post and
said I'm gonna stop putting my pictures on Facebook because
somebody sent me this video what they did to one
of my pictures and had her singing some songs.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
They could have had her singing to a different microphone.
I'm sorry for sure. Did you turn your back to me? Really?

Speaker 2 (55:47):
That hurt?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Anyway? Moving on, listen, I'm a biker, not a choir boy.
I'm a biker. It was funny, Okay, I feel all embarrassed.
I'm red anyway, say something no, no, because it's gonna
hurt my feelings. It's okay, go ahead, We're almost We're

(56:13):
Almo Sauce. No, I ain't gonna say it. No, I mean,
it's gonna start up something times. It has nothing to
do with biking. It's just stuff that go ahead, something aggravating.
This is your platform.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
We just we I'm gonna say we because I'm a
member of this country. We just hardened. Oh yeah, the
biggest drug trafficker in history and didn't want to still
tell American people that we're blowing up both in Venezuela

(56:46):
because they're trafficking drugs. Okay, I'm off my spot and
I put up a post. I put them a post
and says not just that, but we double tapped them. Yeah,
that's I don't That's what I don't go down there
because that's what that got me. That's why, that's why
the other guy had to apologize. Did y'all know if

(57:07):
anybody don't know that Venezuela has more oil than Irack
and maybe even more than Saudi Arabia. And you wonder,
why are we going down there. I didn't know that. Yeah,
and they got a rich oil deposit there in Venezuela.

(57:29):
Why do you say rich like that rich? Because as
we say, you got a rich deposit of oil, they
have a lot. They have a lot of oil. And
what the biggest fear is not that we just want
to steal the oil. The biggest fear is that they
can destabilize oil trade if they if they desire. Remember
what Old Peck did back in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, remember they were shooting people. I don't know, you
were young, they were shooting. I was young, man, I
was in my teens in the eighties.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Bro was young. You ain't number three years.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
I was talking about the seventies. When it first happened.
In the seventies, Okay, when I was like eight or
nine years old, people were do you remember when we
had to go to odd and even days on your
license plate to get gas? Yes, did that happen in
the eighties as well? Or were you around in the
seventies for that I was born in you remember that question?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yes, yes, I remember a black dragon.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
I don't know how since you're like ten years younger
than i.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Amber, I remember, I'm not ten years younger than you are. Yeah, yeah,
I think you are here four years older than me. Oh, yes,
that's really And I don't know why I get my
respect for being How old are you sixty two?

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I'm about sixty eight or so.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
No, you're not sixty eight. That's a line. You sixty two?

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, and you are fifty six. I am fifty nine,
are you? Yes, you're almost old enough to speak on
my shame level.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Almost. No, I speak above your level many times.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
You're almost on my level, preacher.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
But anyway, I just I just do that in it
because you know, we don't we we have a divided
nation is getting more and more divided. People that used
to be comrades and not not comrades anymore, and just
that and the other. And it's because and I even
said this in church, it's because we're me black Dragon.
I'm gonna use us as an example. At our level

(59:38):
are arguing about what billionaires are doing. We can't change
nothing that a billionaire does. You have one guy's trying
to become the first brillionaire, and I'm mad at them.
You can do that, he's a trillionaire. I'm not gonna
argue with black Dragon over what. You know what. I

(01:00:00):
would digress and say, you know what, I'm just gonna
make sure I save my money right and manage my
money right because the price of bread is going up,
so anyway, I gotta go. I don't want to turn
this into something that's not I just saw that post, so.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Uh yeah, well we did parton that guy. That guy
did get partner. I don't know why he did get pardoned.
He did get pardoned.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
Four hundred, four hundred, four thousand metric tons of cocaine
whatever it was, some astronomical number got convicted by our people,
by our courts.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
I'm sure our reason. There had to be a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I mean, yes, there is a reason. It's all about money.
It's all about money. It's all about money. It's all
about it. I'm sure you don't let you do not let.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
I'm sure he didn't pay to get out. You can't pay.
No one has more money than America, which you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Mean you can't pay. It goes to an individual or
your friend. Hey man, black Dragon needs needs a new studio.
I'll tell you what you helped my boy black dragging out.
I give you a pass. Come on, now, we did
that in the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
We do. We have that kind of cronasm at the
highest levels of our We did that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
We did that in the hood. Bro, what you're talking about?
Come on, man, Oh you're not from the hood.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Igt He was, But I spent many a time. I
spent much time there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
But I lived it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
I lived it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You spend time there, but I lived it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
I spent every summer there. How about that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
Say, man, I tell you what I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Want my partner hood here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I need call my boy. I called my boy up
up there on State Street, and I know that's the
way you got to go. And I tell you what
if you get my my little brother, you buy my
little brother ice cream out of the out of the
ice cream, mister softie, I'll call my boy up there
on State Street and let them know you got to
get the Baker Street and I let them give you
a pass.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
How are you y'all didn't even have cell phones.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
I'm going to house and call what you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
How did we communicate back then? With no cell phones?
You had to be by your phone. You had to
answer your your answer machine. If you didn't go in
the house and call, you go up to the strip
you know where they hung out at, or you'd call
a cell phone near them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
You didn't have a cell phone back I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Mean a payphone. I'm sorry, payphone near them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
No, we wasn't going to pay phones back then either.
If you're not in the house, we meet you on
the strip. I'm just wondering how we even communicated that
or I came or I came to your block. I
didn't come on your block. I came to your block
waiting to be noticed, and just hey, man, go get man,
go get Ben. Tell Ben d is here?

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
All right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Don't come up here? You know what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Mark, like you were wait at somebody's front door.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Bro, See you got just don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Wow, Yeah I didn't. I didn't come up in that.
I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Come down the street, don't you street.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
I can't even tell that lie with any streets that
I couldn't go up that that was not my reality.
Thank god, thank you mama, thank you for thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
That's really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
That I did not have to come up with that
kind of bs. Thank you my goodness. That's now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Can you imagine if I would have if I would
have stayed with that mentality, in that mindset, in that
environment that we had up north. Can you imagine if
I would have stayed in Bedstine. That's why my mother
took me out. She says, nah, you got no bring
you behind up here.

Speaker 1 (01:03:49):
Now, that's why Tia, my bill of It, took her
children out of out of Chicago because of what she
grew up in. Tia a real gangster. For real. If
if you if you ain't never met a gangster, if
meeting Tia, you meet a real gangster, because that child
is fearless. But let me tell you something. Her children

(01:04:12):
are so well behaved and uh, it is just amazing
to me. Like her her children aren't in any her
daughters in school getting her doctor right now, her son,
they don't hang out and in in nightclubs and stuff.
Like they are just amazing children. These these kids she

(01:04:35):
has raised. Uh, and all that because of where she
came up. She brought her entire family eventually came down
here to Atlanta to h to get away from, Like
you said, that mentality, it's amazing, but.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Uh yeah yeah, but you know, most real, most real
og male or female, whatever you want to call them,
they don't glorize that stuff. I can, I can reminisce,
but you don't glorize. I did a video. Oh no,
I did a post long time ago. Then I'm gonna
get off. We're gonna get off this soap ox long
time ago. And I apologize to everyone that I that

(01:05:13):
I that I harmed growing up mm, either through trying
to run you over, what we are you with baseball bats,
cutting you, just beating you up all that, I apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
And then when I went to up the state, when
I went upstate to a funeral this year earlier this year,
the first person when me and my boy got off
the car going to the funeral of one of our
old homies, the first person that walked up to me
was somebody that me and my partner got into a
fight with. And I laughed. I said, I wait till
I call bo boy wretch say read. I took a

(01:05:51):
picture with what grad who was this? He said what
I said? I said, I don't know. I said, that's joke,
and you knocked out. But but the thing is, we
grew up. That was high school stuff, that was teenage stuff.
You know what I'm saying. That was old stuff. We
grew up. We made it to our late fifties, a
lot of cats, and I'm making it past twenty five.

(01:06:14):
You see what I'm saying. So you don't glorize over that.
And this motorcycle community, these omcs, fifty six year old
men out there shooting each other on the motorcycle.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, because in that last story, uh yeah,
those guys were yeah, uh older. One of those guys
is fifty something. If I remember right, I'm trying to
what I believe one of those guys was fifty something.

(01:06:52):
I have to go look it up, but uh, is
it right here? I saw it somewhere. I saw it
somewhere earlier today that one of those guys was fifty something.
And any event, we need to do one feel good
story and then we need to get the hell out
of here because we promised a feel good story. Is

(01:07:14):
this it here? Yeah? Right here? Here? It is look
at this preacher right here. Two of the bickers, identified
as Job Martinez, fifty three years old and Scott Kaike's
thirty six years old, were stopped at a light when

(01:07:35):
they began fighting. Moments later. Martinez, the fifty three year old,
then shot the thirty six year old multiple times. Maybe
he just emptied his gun on him, you know who knows,
and then and then he was killed. So he was
fifty three years old, he was killed thirty six year old.
It's just tragic now. To me, a fifty three year

(01:07:55):
old is still a kid. To me, a fifty three
year old is still a very young person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
That ain't okay, No, fifty three it's because you're older
than he is. Ain't no kid to me.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
I should have fifty three year old as a young
as a very young person, you know, okay, why is
old sixty two? As I am even older than yourself,
and therefore I should be honored and respected as such.
I don't even know why you haven't paid tribute to
me this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Ay, tribute to you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Go ahead, play your Oh they okay, you're right, it's
time for that. It's time for that. Maybe you guys
should donate some freaking money. Maybe you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
Donate some freaking donate, donate, maybe help me young.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
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(01:09:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
But I'll go give you the email address too, prayers.
Oh I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Okay, do I know what I'm doing with the preacher?
I won one? I won one by one. I won one. Okay,
we give you no one on the board for Oh
that's two for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
That's really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Thank you, Yes, sir, give me my give me my
thing up there on the whiteboard.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
I did, I put it up on the white board.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
Hey, how are you good? Are you? Are you calling
me to be on the show? Be better? Could be better?
Could be better? Are you calling me to be on
the show? I want to talk to you about I
don't know how purpose because we're still on the allegations
and all that. Okay, okay, hold on, hold on, oh
hold on, hold on. Let me call you right back

(01:11:45):
and soon the show is over. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
want to talk about no allegations. All right, don't call
me during this time unless you want to be on
the show. People, damn sure, don't call me about no
club business at this time. Oh look, somebody gave us

(01:12:05):
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(01:12:27):
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And hopefully you re up all right. Our last story
for the day, and then we're the hell out of here.

(01:12:48):
Motorzart Club. We needed donations some of Satan's oh I'm sorry,
some of Santa's helpers Satan's home. Some of Santa's helpful
elves are coming in this year, riding Harley Davidson's Indian
motorcycles and maybe a Kawasaki or two. Members of The
elizabeth Town Drifters Motorcycle Club are determined to give area

(01:13:13):
children the best Christmas possible as the club sponsors its
annual toy drive. The drive began a few weeks ago. However,
club president Ryan Munk said the toy drive is a
little sluggish this year. Yeah, everything is down this year.
It's slow at the moment. We need some more donations.
Much said. In my opinion, the government shut down had
a lot to do with it. I think so, sir,

(01:13:33):
I think so. Nobody has as much as they had.
Here is a picture of the Elizabethtown Drifters Mozart club
collecting toys at some point somewhere it says they need
donations for this year's annual toy drive. Donations are being
accepted through Saturday, with toys, books and clothing being handed
out two families at eleven am to four pm on

(01:13:56):
December thirteenth at the high Craft Park in Elizabethtown. To
make a donation, reach out to the club through its
Facebook page. And this is the Elizabethtown that's all one word,
Elizabethtown Drifters Motorcycle Club and it's in its fourth year.
Club members consider the drive a way of giving back
to their community and helping some families that find themselves

(01:14:18):
struggling during the holidays. It's hard out here, Monks said.
Times are hard, the economy is not all that great.
We just want to help out. Drifter's motorcyc Club continues
accepting toy donations through Saturday. Monks said they will accept
new toys, gently used toys that are in good condition,
and items of clothing, books, clothes, whatever they can donate.

(01:14:39):
Monks said, I'm sure people can use it. Anyone with
items to donate can reach out to the club through
their Facebook page by searching for Drifters MC. A club
member will contact the donor and schedule a day and
time to meet to collect the items or the donations,
or they can be bought directly to high Craft Park,
high Craft Street and elev Elizabeth Tallon on this Summer

(01:15:03):
thirteenth at ten am, where the toys will be distributed
between eleven am and four pm. Monk has hopes this
week will turn things around with more community members being
involved and more donations coming in. So you can reach
Greg Thompson at two seven zero five zero five one

(01:15:23):
four one four or g Thompson at the News Enterprise
dot com and if you need to and they can
get that to you. Greg Thompson G. Thompson at the
News Enterprise dot com all one word. So, hey, good

(01:15:45):
for you guys out there donating toys. We're going to
do some more of this tomorrow. And for you guys
that are looking to to help donate, SSW said donations.
Can we sent a spoonful of sponges?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I gotta go, man too. All right, that's funny though,
I gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
It's time to get out of here. Hey, black dragon
rocking a tracksuit far out. Yeah, I told you I'd
be wearing tracksuits. That's what old people wear, especially when
you lose weight. All right, let's see, let's get you
out of here. Man, we'll shut this down and we'll
bring this on and yeah, I remember this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
I get my home music.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
Well you've been saying that, Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
What's up everyone? This is your boy logic over here.
Keep it logical. Hey, it's been a great day. It's
still cold out here in the Metroplex. Hopefully it's going
to get up at least sixty degrees. But if you're
out there riding, I was riding in thirty seven degrees
yesterday y'all. But if you're out there riding, remember these words.
Ride hard, ride safe, always, always ride on faith. Thank you,
THEO logical.

Speaker 1 (01:17:05):
Black Dragon said, I finally got you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
I know it's two to it's two to one hundred
and three.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Hey, the journey of one thousand miles starts with one step.
My bro. All right, take care of man, and it's
your boy, Black Dragon. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see
you guys, saying back time, saying back channel tomorrow. Yeah,
try to find a way to treat somebody out there
like precious pieces of solid gold, man, and you will

(01:17:36):
be blessed. Enjoy your motorcycle club life and career, and
be safe. I'm Black Dragon. That's my two cents. Love
to hear your two cents in the conversation below. Thanks
for tuning in, and hey man, the new year is coming.
Get ready to get skinny.

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