Interview with Cell Block 1%er Outcast Motorcycle Club

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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, I'm Black Dragon, your host of Black Dragon Biker TV.
And today we're going to be talking to Cell Block
one percenter of the Allcast Motorcycle Club Nation about a
situation that he has recently come out of where he
has been imprisoned for the last six months.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
But first a little history.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Over a year ago, maybe close to two years ago,
there was an agreement for a truce between all black
motorcycle clubs, or at least the major black one percenter
motorcycle clubs on the Black Biker set, in which there
was a promise made by the national presidents of those
organizations that there would be no more violence between the

(01:06):
black one percent motorcycle clubs, especially the historical violence that
we've seen over and over again where we have seen
them bury brothers and sisters throughout the years, all as
a result of violence perpetrated by one club on another.
In the wig of this peace treaty, much much fanfare

(01:29):
was made. Everybody thought it was the greatest thing. These
national presidents even called me and told me of their promise,
and I actually reported upon it extensively. In fact, in
one instance, several of the one percenters got together and

(01:49):
made a video to celebrate this and brought me in
on the video, which was a great honor to be
in to Shan's video with the rest of the fellas
celebrating this peace treaty. And I saw amazing things. In fact,
when I was at the Professional Motorcycle Conference that year,

(02:11):
the PROC, we were able to see some of these
one percent clubs come together, and these guys were hugging
and holding and crying and just fellowshiping with one another.
We have never seen anything like this. It was most amazing.
The truce was spectacular, and the Black biker said, ate

(02:32):
it up, man, and it lasted more than a.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Year without a hitch.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
But six months ago, unfortunately, there was an attack on
the wheels of Soul which left two wheels were so dead,
a couple of outcasts shot and several outcasts went to jail,
And though the truce was broken, they worked hard to

(03:01):
get it back together again. And that's something that we
didn't think would happen either. During that time, the police
were in a frenzy. First of all, they were afraid
that there was going to be an escalating war, that
no one would be able to stop something on the
scale of what used to happen between the white clubs

(03:21):
and the seventies and the eighties. Next, they needed to
find out who had committed this crime and try to
put those folks in jail, and one name kept coming
to the forefront. The guy they figured either did it
or knew who did. His name was sell Block one percenter,

(03:43):
and at the time of that heinous incident, he happened
to be with one of his family members who was
in the hospital, but the police still brought him in
and he had to face a very excruciating choice. Though
he could not be placed on that crime scene. They figured,

(04:06):
either hey, bro, you did it or you know who
did And what we want to know is everything about
your motorcycle club, how it's set up, who's in charge,
who made it happen, or else we're gonna violate your
ass and put you back in prison. So here was
a man facing prison time not for charges associated with

(04:32):
having committed that crime or even having been part of it,
but rather, you're gonna do prison time if you don't
talk to us for this crime, whether you committed it
or not, because we have all the power and we're
gonna violate your parole and put your ass back in

(04:54):
prison for a couple of years. I think was the
first thing that I remember him telling me that they
talked about. So here's the time everybody talks about being
a one percenter until it's time to do one percent
of shit like face those folks and perhaps lose your freedom.
And what would have to be excruciating is if you're

(05:17):
going to lose your freedom over something that you didn't
do and perhaps you didn't even know anything about, especially
since you were in the hospital when it occurred. But
he did that one percenter thing we hear about. He
didn't speak and so they violated his parole for having
a box cutter.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
In his.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Work truck, and away he went for six months. So
tonight you'll hear from sell Block one percenter. Now this
is ongoing litigation, so of course there's a whole lot
we won't be able to talk about, but we will
be able to hear some of what he has to

(06:03):
say about the set in general, some of the things
that he thought about when he was doing time in
prison for a crime that he was not charged for,
and some of the ideas that went through his mind

(06:24):
his head and kind of where he is with biking today,
like For instance, if you had a chance to be
at one percenter again and go through all this shit again,
would you in fact do it? Is it worth it?
What is brotherhood to you? And all kinds of other
things like that. I hope you guys will find this

(06:47):
interview informational, educating, and perhaps for some of you who
are in that world and that lifestyle ar thinking about it,
it might give you some things to think about, which
is what has always been the goal of this channel,
to educate, in form of course entertain, but to make

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you think. It's so important that we understand the best
part of biking is being on the back of a motorcycle.
And perhaps by hearing these folks think and talk and
hear what was on their mind, people like cell Block
one percenter, perhaps you'll understand there may be some things

(07:32):
in motorcycling that just stain't worth doing other than riding
your motorcycle and having fun. Now, I want to point
out that this interview has nothing to do with the club,
as he was not speaking for his club, nor was
he in rags or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
This is one man and.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
His feelings about some of the things that he went
through in this personal very personal journey. So without further ado,
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Speaker 2 (09:45):
Hey, what's up man? I appreciate you, Thank you for
coming to the dragons. There everyone, we.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Got uh cell block one percent here and uh we're
gonna talk to him about some things about the motorcycle
set and what's going on, some things that have been happening.
There's some stuff that we can't talk about. Some stuff
we can't talk about. So we're gonna talk about what
we can't talk about. I appreciate you here, man. So

(10:11):
the elephant in the room. There was a big blow
up here in the city.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Some shit happened, and.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
As a result, you've been locked up for the last
six months, half a year.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Half a year. You went back to prison for a
parole violation, not for the things that happened. So what
the hell was that?

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Like?

Speaker 3 (10:40):
H having it stopping and really just a life to
go back into that reason mold.

Speaker 8 (10:49):
But you know we go back for I mean, at
the end of the day, it's gonna piece it off
because going back.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
For something that they want you so bad on that
you ain't even fucking good.

Speaker 8 (11:06):
And then they turn around and after they do that,
you know, go, we just gonna throw you back in
fridge because we can't just get question and all this
other shit. And then when you provide, you know, the
truth as to he ain't.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Got shit to do with me. I mean, the fid
is gonna do what the fuck they want to do.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
And at the end of the day, so does the
fact that kind of power and just take you off
the street. Oh yeah, I ain't finnna lie.

Speaker 8 (11:35):
They they they shot me one real good. You know
what I'm saying. You know, if you oh, if you
don't gonna operate, you.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Don't snitch, you don't tell you what we want to hear,
you don't say shit. You guess what.

Speaker 8 (11:48):
We're gonna figure out something. We're gonna violate your ask
and see you ain't back to bridge. But at the
end of the day, okay, well whatever you're talking about
running and we'll figure this shot in the back.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
You can get you a lawyer. And so you got
you got two choices. You can you can talk or
or sit there in jail or prison in your case,
go ahead the prison. And and and so what allows
you to make the decision that whatever y'all talk about,

(12:23):
I'm not fixing to be a part of that brotherhood.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
The brotherhood of the club will make you.

Speaker 9 (12:31):
But they said there's no brotherhood anymore. I went down
the road forever year and I ain't gonna even lie.
It's more than just the brotherhood. Is outside the brotherhood too.
You know, it wasn't just my club had my bag,
you know, reaching out.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Oh we know you, you know, down the road for
then you ain't do ship.

Speaker 8 (12:53):
But at the same time, you got other people outside
the club a knowledge the same thing.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
You know, you're down, you down, but you ain't down long.
You ain't do ship. You know it's gonna be what
it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
You had politicians and stuff freaching out to you while
you were locked up, sending messages. What was that like
to have support from a politician though though you were uh,
they were trying to link you to.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Some pretty agreedious stuff.

Speaker 8 (13:26):
I mean to have several people politicians and you know,
different kind of city officials. You know that that that
shows you that being a biker ain't bad as everybody
make it seem like, because they wouldn't take the time

(13:46):
out to show you know what I'm saying, Hey, we
here for you, We got your back.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
It's just because of the work that you've done with
the children, with the community, and uh, that's something that
we have always followed you guys on every year since
I met you. You've always done big things for the children.
Now just just an a sire, you're gonna be able
to do some stuff with the children this year?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Is that gonna happen?

Speaker 8 (14:15):
Well, this particularly year, the sick it's gonna pretty much
do what they can, you know, dealing with the fact
that you know, it's gonna be impossible to try to
put this stuff together the way we put it, the
way we normally put it together, because I be hands
on with the decorations, I be hands on with you know,
getting other people involved in all that. So this particular time,

(14:38):
they're gonna do what they can. But this year we're
gonna get back on track with having it all blown
out how it's supposed.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
To be for those kids now. So so next year
it'll be next year, definitely this year and bed and
but this year to set.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
But when you get involved, like you have been giving
away food and bikes and all kinds of stuff, let.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Me ask you this.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
So you've had some time to think in there, hold
up six months to just sit in there and think,
Uh so did you think about the setting while you
were in there, the whole the motorcycle set and your
place in.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It and that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
I reflected on a lot of still because I'm gonna
ask you some questions like, okay, so do you see
things in the overall dynamics of the set across the country?

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Do you see changes? Now?

Speaker 1 (15:31):
We know different areas do different things differently, but do
you see the set changing for the good or the bad?
You know, we hear a lot of good and bad things.
Do you see what do you see from your standpoint
based on the experiences you've been through?

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Ha See's it changes for good?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
You know? Is developing?

Speaker 8 (15:56):
The ain't not the way they yet, But it's developing area.
Not gonna, you know, be on the same page as
other areas, but it's developing. You know, you can develop
a relationship over time.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And then what they say, yeah, but are the traditions
is the set dying traditionally?

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Traditionally?

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Overall? I pretty much say in a way it is.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Are we developing new traditions or or are we just
going to hell in a handbasket and crumblin.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
People not being passed on what was taught to them,
They're not passing it down. So now you got people
just freestyle and doing you know, what they see fit
or what they've seen on TV, or what somebody told
them it.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Should be, or having their own agenda to do it.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
So lately we have seen a change in some of
the one percent club especially on the black set, and
now we're seeing it on the white set too. We're
seeing some of the top one percent of clubs coming
together in a kumbayaal like kind of thing where folks
have said we're going to we're going to have peace

(17:13):
between us, We're going to party together, we're gonna have
fun together, and I'm not asking you to represent your
club with this. I'm not asking you as a representative
of your club. I'm asking your personal opinion as far
as Georgia is concerned.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Where do you see that? Do you see that piece
being here? Or would you just rather see.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Those people on their side and these people on their
side and you do your thing and they do that thing.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Do you think there'll be a greater kind of coming
together here in Georgia?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I feel like this everything comes with a sit down.

Speaker 8 (17:54):
Whether to sit down, you gotta come with whatever you're
coming with, to sit down and talk about. Everybody don't
agree to disagree. But at the end of the day,
what do you really get it out of sitting down?
And then turn around and two three years later you
back the square one?

Speaker 3 (18:16):
You see what I'm saying At.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
The end of the day, You know, Fiz looked at
me and said, they don't give a fuck what they
see on TV. It turns over sitting down and we
get peace and all it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
I'm just giving you.

Speaker 8 (18:34):
I don't give you my testimony from sitting in front
of the motherfucker's face. Fizz don't give a fuck about
none of that. So everybody has to have a reasons
and opinions and this is mine, not my club, this
is mine.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
To sit in front of somebody that's a federal agent
and telling me, yeah.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
We see all the people going across the country sitting
down and all that, but that doesn't mean that shit
won't happen today, tomorrow, next year, two three years from nothing.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Are you gonna be able to go back.

Speaker 8 (19:08):
And say, well, look what we did back then, they're
not gonna be standing under that shit.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
That man said, my biggest job, then I get a bonus.

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Fuck used to take y'all ass off the street, whether
you're a Womber Center or whether you're nine or nine.
So when you ask about to sit down, people can
come to the table and shit down at all the time.
Everybody's always open the talk. But it's a way to
do it, and it's a time to do it. Every
area not gonna have the same time to do that.

(19:43):
Who knows, I could see somebody I didne walked in
the room with multiple clubs that that's seen. You know,
that's Wumber Centers. I ain't ever had a problem with him.
I'm gonna still do what I do. I mean, they
over it all I'm over here. That just me my

(20:03):
personal opinion.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I don't have to.

Speaker 8 (20:07):
Come sit down and then after sit down say we're
gonna move in this direction for the front, but behind clothes. Oh,
we still don't like each other.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
So you said that they see one percentage of the same.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
What do you mean by that?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Because we always they don't see us like this, y'all.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
That man said.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
We were not one percentage. We don't have that on us.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
Listen to this.

Speaker 8 (20:42):
If you walk into a situation and you got two
people from a ninety nine club go into a bar,
two people, both of them got in their clubs. Now
you know they already look at bikers, not one percentage.
They look at bikers me. And you can be a
part of anything as long as you got close on

(21:03):
you and the club, you're a biker. Once you get
out that Mozart you walk in. This dude go overre
he had the ball talking to a woman. This dude
his brother is over there on the dance floor dancing
the music. The lady at the ball he's talking to
has an X that's stalking her.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
When he comes in.

Speaker 8 (21:27):
If he's already stalking and this is her, she has
nothing to do with this dude, and they get into an.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Altercation as far as going back and forth arguing.

Speaker 8 (21:36):
The rule because he's trying to check this man from
talking to his ax, like you don't even talk to
this Later more, if that dude pulls out a knife,
nobody gonna let them shit dad stab him, like he
gonna protect yourself. So in the meanwhile, this dude over
instead of dancing, he don't know what's going on because
it's packed. When that happens, and he gets the knife

(22:00):
and protecting itself, use it and this guy dies. They're
gonna charge both of them at one point in time.
Are they looking at if you got a one center
Patson or that? No, So when they get charged, you
know they gonna get gang activity because the two guys

(22:20):
and they gonna get that body charged.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
The two guys were in the same color.

Speaker 8 (22:24):
Who guys were in the same cousin that one time
that I tell you them guys one percenters. They was
regular bikers with the same colors on, not ans. So
how they gonna say who is who?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
You can't damn all.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
They look at everybody that if you're not in a
law enforcement club or a Christian club.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
He said, all clubs got an attention to be to
commit a feeling me and to be a guy.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Uh hmm. Let me ask you, if you could do
this all over again, would you be a one percenter?
Did you did you you lose hope when.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
You were in there?

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Did did you lose faith? Did you think? Shit? What
am I doing back? And you've already done twenty years?
You know another twenty year? Bien?

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Do you even have that in you to do? I'm
gonna be honest with everybody, say, oh.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
You signed up. This is what you signed up for.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
Nobody signed up to go to fucking prison man, Nobody
sign up to go to war and all this this
you do that.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
If you go into the military, you know what you
signing up for. This ain't the military.

Speaker 8 (23:32):
Ain't none of us signed up to do no dumb shit.
We signed up because we said we want to be
involved brotherhood if we want to ride out motcycle. So
when I go to prison and you say did I
reflect on this? Did I reflect on that? Would I
do it again? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:50):
I do it again.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
I would actually do it all over again. I will
still be a wantson because my bro showed me brotherhood
and not just my bros. But people even hold the
nine of nine side showed me. You know what I'm saying, like, hey,
I got you back, I'm here now. How many people

(24:13):
can got to ask to say that? Hmm in regular
life like that? That that separates the men from the
mice all day long, That separates if you're gonna be committed.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
So it said there's no brotherhood anymore. Though they said
the brotherhood's gone. I wouldn't necessarily say brother but what
would you would you say that by the fact that
you did six months you were showing brotherhood.

Speaker 8 (24:42):
This is once that I did. I was saying brotherhood,
ass on. I can't say that it was any less
than that because people don't have that chance to feel
that love. No brotherhood love. But it ain't just saying, oh,

(25:04):
because we got the same colors on our back, we're gonna,
you know what I'm saying, call ourselves brothers knowing I'll.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Ready like you.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
I gotta like you the goddamn take care of you
while you're down right. That's that's the point of showing brotherhood.
Why are you there, I'm gonna make sure you good.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Why are you there? I'm gonna have your back.

Speaker 8 (25:27):
Whatever you need done, I'm gonna make sure it's done
until you get back on.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
But you also have blood family. So in your world,
the one percent of world, how do you balance.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
The loyalty and brotherhood that you're gonna show, especially when
times are down against that family you know that you
might not see again.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
How where? How do you just.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
Determine how to balance that? Where's the fine line there?

Speaker 3 (25:59):
It's thinguishing that you can't.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
Be.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
There's your family. It is your faminy club and your club.
It is your family.

Speaker 8 (26:10):
Your family is already been inducted into whatever you do
and whatever you become when.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
You put them colors on.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
So now the club is you got to pick up
the weight or what your family already is to you.
If they can't pick up that weight, then you don't
need to be in. They got to pick them club.
It got to balance out. It ain't gonna balance out
if your family ain't feeling the.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
Same thing that their club feel or your club ain't
in your eyes? What do what your family is to you?
You wouldn't do it?

Speaker 1 (26:48):
How do you feel about the uh? How what would
be your message to to all clubs? Since now you've
had a personal experience with law enforcement telling you they
see us all the same.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
So what would the message be, how do you how
do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Do you do you feel about law enforcement looking at
all clubs the same?

Speaker 2 (27:14):
What would your message be to ninety nine's who many
of us have always thought, Yeah, well we're example, we
don't look like them.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
MESSI would be united exempt nobody has as long as
they got on clothes.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Hm.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
I mean, you can't be exemptive if you ride a
motorcycle and you minding your business and you get pulled
over for no reason.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
I mean, I'm pretty sure it's people that can get
a testimony that.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
You know, befolk that even comes across says the difference
between ninety nine and won't percenters.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
I'm pretty sure as.

Speaker 8 (27:47):
A lot of ninety nine to say, oh I got
pulled over for no reason, and they didn't even give
me a reason to pull me over.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
They just pulled me over.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
And then they want to run your place, and they
want to ask you your name and out of there.
Oh yeah, you free to go, But what did you
pull me over for? Now you're seeing what it's like
to be at wallazum without even being one.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So now Uh, what do you think is? Are we
losing our traditions? Now?

Speaker 1 (28:18):
I know things have done different in the north and
south and east of the West, stuff like that. I'm
seeing a lot of one per center clubs doing things
that I haven't seen them do before. I uh like
the you know, uh for instance, I've seen a lot
of hungry ass one center clubs like the one that
took that took our chapter of uh in Colorado Springs.

(28:41):
They took over our chapter. Them dudes ain't no fucking
out laws. They are some snitch ass fucking so so
how you gonna take how you gonna take that in
your club? And and and be like we're still on
traditions and stuff like that. I've seen wholesale crazy stuff
going on. Who's holding the traditions down? If y'all hold
the traditions down, who's hold the traditions down?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
One percenters hold the tradition down. But at the same time,
you have to look at the chapter. You can't look
at the club.

Speaker 8 (29:10):
If that chapter is doing something, Man, that's on that
chaplain that's up today nationally, get down on that chapter
or that's all together as a whole. We need to
God damn cultivate our club a little bit more better
than what it is me myself personally. I can't speak
on somebody else to look or what I can say
is on the traditional level. From a culture standpoint, it's

(29:35):
it's it's evaporating because you have at one point where
people when they come in town, they're gonna first hit
before they do anything else. They're gonna first hit the
should they should just hit the dominant's house.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (29:52):
They gonna give a phone guy, I say, we we
on the way up there, we're gonna come through and
you know what I'm saying, break bread and see what
y'all got going on.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Blah blah blah blah. And you don't see that like
you used to. You know what I'm saying. It's different
if you go to Maryland.

Speaker 8 (30:09):
Oh well, we go up here the Maryland, We're gonna
deal with you know, the guys up here in Maryland.
We go to phild Deafiti, We're gonna deal with the
guys in the field deffinit. We go to California, We're
gonna deal with the guys in California. At least pay
hundreds to whatever area you're going.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
To before you just pop in. You see what I'm saying,
Don't just go to Maryland. You know, you got fucking
thunder guards.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Up here and you ain't even stop the house.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
You ain't even stopped by these for a clubhouse.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, but you're here for a party.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
You here for boots on the ground party and you
ain't even went through the Don't go to Philadelphia, ain't
got damn boy wheels. Don't go to Detroit or Lodon.
You ain't even saying, hey, what's up out cast? Like
it's just certain stuff. You gotta make sense. You see
what I'm saying, coming by you checking in like that

(31:01):
one of them clubs gonna be able to tell you
in the area eight, it's not good for you to
come through right now because the police is a rassing bibus.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Or hey, we just had a problem.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
On the set.

Speaker 8 (31:12):
Well, a severe got hit on the motorcycle. So the
laws are changed on the different You know, it's all
kinds of it. Ain't always bad shit, but it's always
good to have a relationship with people in every fucking area.
The tradition is when you came in, guess what whatever
clubs that you started up, all those clubs knew that

(31:34):
they had to go, so whatever area that they had
to go to and sit down and speak with them people.
The Wumper Center clubs are the ones that you pay
hummings to. That's just like you go in and you
pay hummers to the veterans they had.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
The veterans are the set.

Speaker 8 (31:50):
They was in there in the mud getting the where
you can god damn move around the way you move around,
and I had these problems. They actually stood up for
certain shit that did not ton. And then you see
what I'm saying. You come to Alane, you gonna see
the difference in how it is in alone then how

(32:11):
it is in New York, or you're gonna see how
different it is in New York than how it is
in California. But be myself personally, I mean I feel that, yes,
the the culture is changing, that people should pay more
attention to getting it from the horse's mouth than getting
it from their president, because they president probably ain't even

(32:31):
been to that, to that one percent clubhouse, and the
president is gonna keep what he can why he can
away from them because they know if they go to
outcast so seeing City or thunderguards or wheels, these guys
been doing it for a long time, So why would
you not tell me to go over here and hear

(32:54):
what the people in this area.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Got to say.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
If it's gonna be some bullshit, you know what I'm
I can call it, but I can't call it if
you don't team.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
So let me ask you.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
We didn't used to see clubs, especially one percenters and
stuff on TikTok and social media.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Do you think that's a bad thing or that is
that a good thing? Is that an okay thing that
we're seeing.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
It's just a change in the traditional culture for a
bad thing that we're seeing all these one.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Percenters now on social media.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And why is that.

Speaker 8 (33:29):
I think it's a good thing because these guys are
promoting the guys having fun. They promote every time you
go on somebody page, no matter what club it is,
they ride, that's what we are. Most likely they party.
That's what it's all about, having fun and party. And

(33:50):
the main thing, the third thing, the traditional standpoint of brotherhood.
You see all of them ago all whatever states they at,
they always symbolizing Hey, I mean Georgia, but I'm with
my South Carolina.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Bro I'm with my Alabama bro. I remember Calor I
got in California, broke and all. It was right here
together having fun. So yeah, I mean you can't generation wise,
we're not gonna do what they did back in nineteen
sixty nine or nineteen seven or nineteen eighty.

Speaker 8 (34:28):
But to get out there and have fun, those are
memorable moments that you could never get back. Nobody taking
pictures no more. That's the new form of Kodak, That
motherfucker social media. It's the way you do it. You know,
they're not looking at the fact of you're advertising or

(34:48):
explaining violence or you're promoting violence. You're promoting goddamn what
you signed up for, brotherhood, Rody Moss and having fun.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
So the puppet I can see that from this day
and ag this new generation.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
Man, Yeah, I'd be like, keep doing because you woul't
been never see nobody posting the cryz.

Speaker 3 (35:06):
One m right like I had do with that.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
It like that.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
You know, I've sat in in great criticism, but you're right.
It is absolutely showing the world that you love your club. Uh,
and in the way that we used to do it
in the early days. So it just did it differently.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
So what's next?

Speaker 1 (35:24):
Man?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
What's next for you? Uh? What's next? In?

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (35:31):
In? Do you you see yourself? You know in your
motorcycle club world? Are you done with it? Are you
still moving with it? What you're gonna do?

Speaker 3 (35:39):
I'm still in it.

Speaker 8 (35:40):
I mean when we say we forever, we feel I'm
still in. I'm not out bad, I'm not spinning it.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
You know, I'm in it like I got out. You know,
I was this, you know back, I was this with
my brows.

Speaker 8 (35:59):
You know what I'm saying. At a recent anniversary, you know,
we had we had a good time. We discussed a lot,
But the main thing is that I was able to
come and got a prison and tell them how much
I love them, Yeah for being there for me, having
my back.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
So what does forever mean to you?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Forever?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Mc? Forever? What does happening to you?

Speaker 3 (36:21):
You're gonna bay mean?

Speaker 4 (36:22):
You right?

Speaker 8 (36:24):
You ain't gonna see nothing else on my back but
what I got on them. You ain't gonna never say, oh,
set block over here in this club, say about the
winter that club, say about then? Man, if you if
you're in the club and you ridly about that shit,
you ain't gonna never really catch no fines because you're
always doing what you're supposed to do. You ain't gonna

(36:46):
get suspended because you're doing what you're supposed to do.
And three, you love the fucking ride. So how you
got time to catch a fine and you get suspended
and you ride the motorcycle? It's impossible. Only thing you're
paying for is what your time out there on the road.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Would you say the one per centers are the last of.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
The Mohicans when it comes to holding us down? Do
you or do you think the younger generation's gonna take over?
Are the ninety nine per centers doing what they need
to do? I mean, who's holding this culture together, combination
of all of us or just from an aspect, I'm
gonna tell you like this, the warm percenters are the.

Speaker 8 (37:30):
Last of the Mohicans. And when I when I use
that word Mohicans, I use that as the last because traditionally,
from a cultural standpoint, we're still out here pounding.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
We ain't crying about if it's cold, if it's hot,
if it's raining, if it's not.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
We ain't doing nothing of that shit. We know we
gotta do.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
We gotta go see our bros. This mandatory ride this
way or it's miles. We gotta get to go this way.
I mean, that's what we're gonna do. But from the
nine to nine standpoint, they kind of be like, I'm
gonna just jump in a cage.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's gonna rain to night.

Speaker 8 (38:08):
They got rain, You'll put that ship on and go
see your people. You know, some people don't realize that
this is spell for to pull up in the cage.
You see what I'm saying. But that's what the one
percentage can tell you. Hate don't ever come to my club.
That's no cage. You know what I'm saying. That's it's
fucking or tornado white outside our door. Don't pull up
at at our house with no.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
In no cage.

Speaker 8 (38:31):
You know, this is the tradition that you should be
able to tell people for this. This is the tradition
that they're with it to itself. Hell man, I don't
seen I'm pretty sure I have seen other clubs. The
other one percent of clubs can tell you that it's
the same thing what I'm saying, Hey, we don't seen.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
That of nights.

Speaker 8 (38:47):
Got to get out a car in the winter time
or the summer time or anytime.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
What colors on What the fuck they do that at
tradition culture? Now, let us try that ship.

Speaker 8 (39:01):
Yeah, suspended and everything else, because you're not valuing what
you got on your back.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
And that's what people fucking up now.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
When I say the culture is changing, people don't value
their colors like they used to.

Speaker 3 (39:17):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
You just seeing the change in the generation with your people.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
You know, people will give you excuse and money before
they give you the ride. I rather do the ride
before I give you money.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
I need that money right right, you're talking about the
fine for not for not making the ride. They'd rather
just pay the fine.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
But on our side, we're gonna ride because we enjoy
the road.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
Right.

Speaker 8 (39:47):
It ain't about just going to the next party next week,
seeing the same people are going over here, you know
what I'm saying, Seeing who I can holler that I ain't.
You know, I don't know shit about. But I'm just
going because they got might I don't want to see perform.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Right, Listen, I appreciate you for coming in, and it's
been a couple of years, and I'm glad you're in
good health and doing well, and I'm glad you're out
of there. That's no place for anyone to be, and
I'm glad that for the reasons that they put you
work there, that those were not reasons that you had

(40:22):
to stay there.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
So amen to that.

Speaker 4 (40:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
You welcome to come here anytime. This is the dragons Layer.
You can come party here. You know, you welcome.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Everyone's welcome at the dragons Layer. I just want to
thank you guys for tuning in and listening to show.
Block one per center discussed some things here about Georgia
and his take on things. Again, this is not him
speaking for his club at all. He ain't got no
club colors on and nothing like that. It's just me
talking to a guy here. So I appreciate you, man.
Thank you for coming through.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Young man.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
All right, keep doing good things out there. All right,
we out peece.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
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Speaker 2 (41:15):
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Speaker 2 (41:31):
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Speaker 1 (41:46):
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Speaker 2 (41:48):
You can find yourself in the title of.

Speaker 5 (41:53):
The kind of moves And when number one dragget you.

Speaker 8 (42:15):
And what your mocycle, your president, you want to find
morn and.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
What your mocycle is.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
It can be very dangerous.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Demand when you have that kind of thing, say so
as a nine moorcycle problem.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
What you want to find it is.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yourself in your business, in your lane. A fancy stuff
is handled on other levels.

Speaker 10 (42:51):
Yeah, you heard that idea, you know other levels. I
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A black dragon is the man. A little o g
to be born a five third or by a true MC.
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(43:16):
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Speaker 10 (43:29):
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Speaker 3 (43:36):
Some people thought he was.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
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He became the president of the mighty black Estavage Nation.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
EMC y'all respectfully, respectfully, black time.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
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Speaker 2 (44:10):
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Speaker 3 (44:10):
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Speaker 10 (44:13):
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Speaker 3 (44:24):
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Speaker 2 (44:28):
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Speaker 3 (44:33):
Y'all know it, and I know it and I know it.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
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Speaker 10 (44:41):
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