Should My Club Switch One Percent

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh, good morning.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
Man, I got a cold, bad look at my eyes.
I'm gonna try to make it through this morning. WHI y'all,
but it.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Is bad bad.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
We've seen a lot of clubs switching over to the
one side. Let me pull up my script that the
pastor wrote me to Damn Black Dragon Biker TV will
be tackling a question that's being asked more and more
across the motorcycle set. Should have ninety nine percenter club?

(00:59):
Make this which to one percenter status? Lately we've seen
a growing number of clubs attempting to move from ninety
nine percenter riding or social inmseas into the one percent
of world, and not everyone, frankly, is prepared for what
that actually means. Now, this isn't just about changing a patch,

(01:21):
It's about changing your motorcycle clubs entire reality. Today we
will have a esteemed and loved one percenter on Big
Bone one percenter, and we're going to be asking us
some questions about about, you know, what it is to

(01:44):
be in the one percenter life? Because I know, you
know I couldn't be on that you don't know anything about.
So we went and got some experts and we have
a couple of one percenters that I called last and
that will be in the chat. So we'll talk about

(02:05):
what it really means to go from nine to nine
percent to one percenter, why many clubs are not ready
for that switch, and the responsibilities, expectations and risks that
come with it, and what must be in place before
the club even considers making the move, and what happens
to clubs that rush the process and ignore the protocol.
We'll also talk about the hard truth. Not every club

(02:27):
it's meant to be a one percenter club, and that's okay.
Special guest, Big Bone, our special guest host today is
Big Bone one percenter. So Joe join us in Big
Bone one percent bring almost bringing real world insight from
the one percenter side of the house. He'll help us

(02:49):
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And all right, we will be back in a minute
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be hanging out together this morning. Hopefully we can get
that's my voice. We're just gonna make the preacher do
all the talking. Uh and uh should my club switch?

(03:32):
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Speaker 1 (07:16):
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Speaker 8 (07:19):
Hey man, what's going on? Logic brothers. I got to
tell you, thank you for that, uh that excellent introduction. Man.
I appreciate it because you know that keep my nose
to the grindstone. And every now and then somebody says, hey,
good job, and you know you appreciate it. So as
much as folks don't like to say, even amongst us,
we appreciate the acknowledgment because it's like fuel to keep

(07:41):
you going in this thing.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
And you're the second black man in the entire world
to receive that that uh that that award, and you
know that that organization is run by some of the
baddest clubs in the world, biggest Spottish park core clubs
in the world. So for them to recognize you and

(08:07):
for all the things you've done, and you are the chairman,
I forgot to say that part. You are the chairman
of the South Florida.

Speaker 8 (08:16):
Corna, the West West Florida Confederation of Clubs, the CEOC
is we like to call it.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Oh my god, I'll get that right one day, the.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
West Florida of Clubs, you know.

Speaker 8 (08:28):
And look in your defense. Here's the thing, because I know,
if you, like most folks, when we talk about this stuff,
especially those of us in Florida, we look at the
map and we see, well, if if the COOC, if
my COOC covers basically the middle of Florida, why does
it say West Florida. And that's that's plague this for
like twenty years. But and what happens is this when

(08:52):
the when my COOC started, way back when it really
was West Florida, it was just uh, you know, ham
Pasco Spring. It was a small area. But over over
a number of years it's gotten pretty freaking huge. So
now covers damn near to the entirety of the middle
part of Florida. So it should be. But you know

(09:13):
how it is like old school, especially amongst us one percentage,
we don't like to change stuff. So we're stuck with
the name West Flood, which we like to name West Florida.
Uh Confederation Clubs, But it really encompasses a big choke
at the state.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
I got to tell you this, I am so surprised
to see your logo down there that you use that
fricking lutely. I designed that logo for you and I
didn't even know you. I didn't even know you. I

(09:54):
heard your name. We were on al together and I
and I said, let me send this guy this. I
put that together. And what was that six or five
six years ago?

Speaker 8 (10:07):
No, no, it's longer than that, because let me see,
this is twenty five, so in two thousand and so,
so six or seven, so six or seven years ago
at this point.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Well, I didn't even know you at the time, and uh,
just we had if we hadn't become friends or brothers
or anything. Uh, then you were just some guy. That's
some cool guy. And I said, man, I like that name,
Big Bone. Let me let me make big Bone one percent,
or let me make this. I don't even know why,
but it is so cool to see you still use
that because.

Speaker 8 (10:43):
I look, I use it. I'm proud of it.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I love it. And you know, build your brain, man,
build your brain.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Yeah, and you know it's the funniest thing. So somebody
told me that they saw me and Black Dragon at
a PROC from like the I think they said twenty ten,
but I think it was twenty ten because that year

(11:15):
I was I was one of the speakers at the PROC.
In twenty ten. It was in Tampa, Florida, And interestingly
enough true story the night before because you know, were
you know, out of PROC is it's a lot of
parties at nighttimes, parties and what not going on, and
so I ended up going becoming a guest of the
guest of the state accidentally, mind you, that night, as

(11:38):
did a number of people, including some of the folks
from the PROC. Because Florida ain't no joke. But anyway,
I was like working in Florida, y'all. So I missed
my speaking part. But somebody was like, well, don't worry
about it because and they told me Black Dragon was there.
And I said, are you sure? And so we went
back and forth as to whether or not it was

(11:59):
the Tampa p or another PROC. But you were at
a PROC that I was at a PROC. Apparently we
spoke and this girl says, she has a picture of
me and you from back then. I'm like, are you sure,
because I mean I think I was aware of you
for sure back then, but anyway here or there.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Each other back then.

Speaker 8 (12:17):
Wow, Okay, I'm in search of that photograph because this
woman swears up one side and down the other and
even mentioned the fact that I went to jail. I'm like,
that was I had forgotten about that. I'm like, oh yeah,
that's right.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That was a good night woll uh.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Okay, So some one of the some of the people
that are going to be talking today are actually going
to be in my text messages.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
What's up on Uncle Shaggie speaking of text messages?

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Okay? So okay, good, we got some questions.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
All right, cool, all right, So listen, man, I was,
first of all, I was in here to hey and
we got Goose back in the background running the show,
and there's always much love and honor respect to our
brother Goose back there. So, man, I was down in
your town and I didn't realize I was that close

(13:12):
to you, not that I would have even had time
to see you. You know, I get it. I get
touched out. As I'm driving back home, I get this
phone call. You were in my stadium. You didn't even
drop by. I didn't know you were down. I didn't
know where.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I thought you were in West Florida.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Man, Yeah, right, technically, but that's what I was saying,
is the way the name goes. It says West Florida,
and you know again, but the area are what we
call our Ao is basically the middle part of Florida.
But where you were was about uh, let me see

(13:46):
you were Was it Moulberry or or I was in
was it Brandon, Bradenson or I forget the name of
the town he was in.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
But it wasn't that far Brandon or something like that.

Speaker 8 (13:58):
Brandon, Right, you were in, You weren't that far.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
I was in Polk County and it was like going
back to Sharecropper nineteen eighteen fifty seven. Bro, yeah, I was.
I was scared walking around down there.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Man.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
I was like, do not break any laws down here,
black dragon.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
This is boy. You got rural on this one, my bro.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
Whoa, Yeah, you went to Grady what we call Grady Juddling.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Man. Hey, I could feel great.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I could just feel graty in the air, like mess
up if you want to, I can like this.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I could just be like I could mess up if
you want to. Lit like this.

Speaker 8 (14:39):
Most folks that live in Pope County, you could offer
them a million dollars cash to tell you who the
mayor was, right, they ain't getting that money. You could
ask anybody in the state of Florida who the sheriff
is of Pope County and everybody knows.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (14:56):
You know it's funny you say that, Bone because to
this day now, I've been out of New York since
eighty six upstate, and I can tell you who are
chief of police and our mayor was because they was
part because they was mom.

Speaker 8 (15:10):
Right, I can tell you.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
That's it.

Speaker 8 (15:17):
So I can't tell you who the mayor was after
them before them, right.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
So we want to welcome my brother in uh, Commissioner Lavish.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
With your brother.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
What's happening?

Speaker 10 (15:31):
What's up, fellas super Lavish?

Speaker 5 (15:35):
Oh man, big Bone, what's happening?

Speaker 8 (15:37):
Are you feeling better?

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Man?

Speaker 10 (15:38):
I'm feeling good man. I'm wanna have to get you
on the podcast. Man, when I fired this thing back up. Man,
it's coming real soon too, man.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
A Levish. We gotta we gotta talk Leavish a year man.

Speaker 10 (15:49):
Listen, man, I'm all for it, man, I'm all for man.
We got some big stuff coming. I know, I want
to take this podcast up.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Another notch man as me to be on your podcast.

Speaker 10 (15:58):
I mean, I had you on the pile and that's
not a problem, but Big Bone, I had them up
on the podcast.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying I.

Speaker 10 (16:07):
Know, hey man, this ay big Bone, will cart you
in in Florida.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
I mean I'm in Panello.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Is that near Tampa anywhere?

Speaker 8 (16:16):
Yeah? Right next door right now? Okay, basically it's the
Tampa Bay area.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
So we got some stuff.

Speaker 8 (16:21):
Man.

Speaker 10 (16:22):
I think my club in your club if I'm not mistaken.
I don't want to put it out there too soon, man,
but I know I'm coming down there. I think it's
in February. I think it's in February. I got starting
coming up in February.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Man.

Speaker 8 (16:39):
It's Florida is one of the twenty four to seven
biker states, so it's always something going.

Speaker 10 (16:44):
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, I know I'm coming down there
in February supposed to anyway.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
Well, look if you if you get down here, I'm
definitely gonna see you. I know now February, no January.
The proct is in January, right, and here's something in February.
But now you if you come down here, I'm definitely
gonna link up with you. Cool. I tried.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I tried to call you yesterday.

Speaker 8 (17:07):
Logic YouTube. Man, for sure, when you get down here,
you get.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
No I'm in Texas now, snow logic and got the snow.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
It's gonna be christ twisted, though, Texas does get.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
A bone to let you know, I tried to call
you yesterday. I had a number, but it said it
said no this number, it's not working.

Speaker 8 (17:30):
Shoot it to you all.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
I got the number that's on the business card.

Speaker 10 (17:34):
I got the number that's on the Okay, listen, I'll
be showing listen. I used that business card as a
conversation piece when people stopped right up like, I'll be like, yeah, man, yeah,
it's a big bone.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:48):
You know I rock with them, they rock with me.
You ain't got one of these cards, don't do you?

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:55):
I don't have one. I want I want a card,
big Bone I designed logo. I don't have a card.

Speaker 8 (18:01):
It's literally on the card. I want to take wait
a minute, I want to say it's on the car.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
So let us let's get back to the topic.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's funny because I was down in Polk County, down there,
and it's funny because hard Wire said I said the
same thing about going to Mike's. You know why, because
I'm in the South, but I live in Atlanta and
Atlanta is not the South.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
And when you when you leave Atlanta south, that's the
dirty at the.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
South South, Pempc said. Pempci said, the rapper said, Atlanta
the South.

Speaker 10 (18:34):
If it's the South, he said, look at the time
something about the time, it's not the South.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Atlanta's not the South.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Atlanta is Miami Beach in Atlanta or something like that,
and you drive out of Atlanta, you'd be like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah,
we're in the South.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
You can hear them whistling Dixie and ship down there. Uh.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
So I was down there. I had to go to
this trial and uh and then we just covered a
trial a couple of days ago about all those guys
uh that were in your club that had some some trouble.
And I got to speak with one of your brothers
uh in a in a bone in a long conversation,
and a couple of things I found out about the

(19:13):
uh Savannah chapter of both of those clubs that were
down there that got into that to that little uh
fray that cost some of those guys what twenty to
twenty five years. Uh, that's my car, turn it on.

Speaker 8 (19:33):
They got that carn's.

Speaker 9 (19:38):
Yeah yeah, okay, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Wow, yeah, I don't have to have the number. I
don't have to have a car. I got the number
right here on my phone. So we Uh, well, I
guess the preacher is going to get his car too.
Hey bone shod me want them.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Cars, bro, I have a car and I don't have
a damn car.

Speaker 5 (20:05):
I'm just saying, man, you know we got the car.

Speaker 1 (20:08):
So uh.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I talked to one of your brothers and and uh
what I found out about two of those clubs, those
two clubs down there, is that both of those guys
came from ninety nine percent clubs. Like both of those
all those guys that we saw that went to jail
or or went to court or that were that was
involved in that, they were all from ninety nine percent
clubs and they were all friends, all homies and stuff

(20:33):
before they went in two separate clubs and then couldn't
be friends no more.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
We've seen that happen before.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
But this guy that I talked to told me said,
you know, because I was talking about maybe going that
route with my club restart, and the guy was like, no,
I don't think you should do it. So I want
to talk to you today. And some of the guys
that we have in the chat, and if any of
you want percentage in the chat and you want to
speak up, I want to talk to you about are

(21:01):
these I mean, should clubs switch? Should you know?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
What?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What should you be thinking about when you're trying to switch?
And UH and how good? How good is it? And
one of our esteemed one percenters in the in the
UH chat sent me some questions. He sent them to
YouTube bone. So the first question that we're going to
say is what is or how does changing benefit your

(21:29):
motorcycle club to change from one percent from ninety nine
percent to one percent? So that's the first question. And
I will say I think I know why most of
these and they're in Atlanta, they're popping up like crazy.
These have been like ninety nine percent is forever. And
you look around they got hole Georgia rockers and one

(21:51):
percent diamonds, and you you be thinking like, are y'all
like really built like that?

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I'd be.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I think that there's two reasons that a club that
I would want to do that, and one might would
be for autonomy. I'm tired of getting blessings, I'm tired
of being pushed around, and that one percent diamond may
set you off, set you out as Hey, I'm at

(22:19):
the top of the food chain, so nobody's going to
push me around. I don't have to get a blessing
to go places. And also it shows people that they
shouldn't pick on you or mess with you or so
like maybe people might use it as like a badge
of like a lot of people stand behind they don't
have what it takes to be at But most folks
ain't going to ask you, they're not going to test you.

(22:42):
When they see that, they're instantly terrified. So that might
be a couple of reasons that people want to do that.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 8 (22:52):
This is one of those I'm jumping at the bit
because I've got a whole bunch of thoughts going on
at the same time. But you know, what's that thing?
Everything that looked like sugarine sweet and grass is always greener.
There's yeah, and and the biggest one, this most this

(23:15):
most applicable to this conversation is heavy. Where heavy heavy
lies the head that wears the crown. And I know
it's Shakespearean and I know I'm saying it wrong, but
y'all get the point.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.

Speaker 8 (23:27):
Yes, right, heavy is the head that wears the crown.
So here's the thing. And but where we are now
twenty twenty five, every other so and so, either because
they saw a movie or because they saw something on
the set, or people have these these ideas, these ideology

(23:51):
opinions about what it is to be in a dominant
club or specifically what it means to be a one percenter.
The majority of the time, what you what the person thinks,
and what it really is is two different things, as
in they are wrong. And what we see culturally and

(24:14):
geographically is like you said, you got these clubs, it's
just popping up. They might have been around for some
of some of these clubs been around for a while,
and decide, hey, we're gonna go ahead and make that
transition in California not beating up for no fucking I'll
beat up in California. So California, I was there, Uh
what was it a year and a half ago? Went

(24:36):
up the Murder Mountain too, that was crazy. But in California, man,
I saw more diamonds than a son of a gun.
Like they're passing them out like like cookies. The culture
in California is the true dominant will decide another club
is worthy of such. And basically they're working as they're
serving as their proxy, sort of like a support club.

(24:59):
And as a result of such, when you get a diamond. So,
and here's the thing, I want to be clear. I'm
not against a club who's worthy putting on that diamond.
And you notice I use the word worthy, because here's
the thing. Hey, if you put on that diamond, and
I'm just going to cut straight to the chase on it.
If you put on that diamond, you need to be
able to enforce it. You need to have that discussion

(25:22):
amongst whomever is going to be wearing it, and whomever's
having that conversation, who's ever, whoever the chairman or the
board is or whatever. They need to communicate accurately and
effectively what it actually means. That means the good and
the bad. Because Dragon, I know you noticed you mentioned
a moment ago that oh, you know, most people will

(25:44):
put on that diamond and people are going to be
so terrified they're not going to be tested. Whilst that
might be true amongst some those folks that are already
in that fraternity will most definitely most assuredly test you right,
and I can tell you. I could. I could show
you in my closet where I am acquired over my

(26:07):
MC career, some accoutrement. I'm trying to clean this up,
so I don't know, but I have. I was gifted.
Oh there you go.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
I was gift gifted, gifted there.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
I was gifted some some one percent of diamonds of
clubs that don't exist anymore. And I was lucky because
I was one of them in some circumstances, one of
the first ones to see them in my area, and
they gifted me. Uh they're vesting their diamonds just prior

(26:43):
to their club folding. So yeah, that was a nice thing.
That was good.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
But yeah, that's that's like to put on your wall
right right the way that was worded.

Speaker 8 (26:59):
Minute But you know, but for real, though, yes, there
is there's a certain amount of autonomy. But like I said,
good things, bad things, heavy lies ahead and all that.
But here's the thing, though, as much as it seems
like dominant clubs and dominant club members have all this autonomy, man,

(27:19):
we got more rules in the constitution. There is a
lot that goes along with this. And you might say
to yourself, man, how that dude I remember back when
he was a ninety nine, and how is he qualified
to do that? The stuff that you don't know is
what he went through in order to get that that
dogon jewelry. There are some clubs who probably should have

(27:45):
put on a diamond. This is a very unpopular thing
I'm about to say. There's some clubs who are in
certain club members who should have put on a diamond
a long time ago. For a variety of reasons, they
decided not to. Maybe it's the area that they're in.
Maybe they don't want to radically change the makeup and

(28:06):
the focus of their club the way you know, they
like it the way it is. That's fine, But there's
clubs that are worthy of such that, for one reason
or another, have elected not to. Maybe they don't want
the headaches it will come market.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
When I came up, it was a racial thing. When
I came up, it was very simple, we don't need
that white boys shit, That's what they would say. The
black clubs, especially on the West coasts, that were big,
hard clubs that deserve diamonds, they did not need or

(28:39):
want the targeting that that diamond was going to put
on them, and most big black clubs I knew of
knew forever refused to go that way until probably about
twenty fifteen is when we started seeing the clubs on

(28:59):
the black set really putting on the diamond. As the
younger guys started coming in, and as these black clubs
started spreading across the country. Instead of being local in
small areas, they started spreading. And so if you're known

(29:20):
as a dominant club on the west coast, but as
you're coming east, people don't understand a one piece patch,
or they don't understand a non three piece patch. They
don't understand a diamond that doesn't have a one percent
in it. So you saw these guys, I think, giving
up their identity to go to something larger so that

(29:44):
they would have the respect that they already had. But
now they're in a new area. So when in Rome
do as the Romans. So I think a lot of
that came when you started seeing a lot of the
big black clubs start moving towards those diamonds.

Speaker 8 (29:57):
Well, and I guess again it is to some degree
is geographical. And you know, my head is exploding as
you're saying these things, because as I think about my own.
I'm like, hey, we've been around since the sixties and
da da dah. But that's also a comparatively rare situation.
I think the motivation of putting on that jewelry now

(30:22):
is quite different than what it used to be Back
in the day. It was a statement on many levels.
Now amongst some and this in what you were speaking about,
but amongst some folks nowadays, it's like it's like having
a fresh pair of Jordan's that nobody else could get
just yet, you know. But it's it's losing when when

(30:44):
you get these pop up clubs that slept on these diamonds,
it waters down, It dilutes and takes away from the
actual history and the culture and the work product, for
lack of a better way to put it, and the
dedication that goes along with being a one percenter gets
watered down when somebody can just slap this.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Thing on, it just takes it takes the value in
the pride away from it.

Speaker 8 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah, I'll say it like this. In my area,
we're very concerned with property values, so we.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, I heard about Joe Area. Man, I'm like, holy moly.

Speaker 8 (31:22):
You know it's necessary to maintain to maintain the value
of not just the real estate, but the commodity, the jewelry.
And I'm talking all kinds of ass backwards and everything,
but just in plain speaking, it's like this, don't come
to my state slapping on a diamond. You've been here
fifteen minutes, or like I saw in California, which used

(31:45):
to just bother the devil out of me. Some clubs
it's been around one chapter one, chapter eight members and
you all folks put on a diamond. You better not
let me see that. In Florida, you better not. Now
it would be different.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Going back to our one percenter that sent us this checklist.
One of the things he has as a big question,
and I think this is so important and when you're
thinking about whether or not you want to take your
club to a diamond, this question he says, does your
club have any active duty military in it? If your
club has active duty military, I know you don't want

(32:20):
to do that diamond.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
I wouldn't say any, but it is it is definitely
a challenge not for your club, but for that individual.
So that individual has to make the decision as to what,
if any sanctions or actions he wants to expose himself
to because there's things in the u CMJ that say that,
and depending on who's interpreting the UCMJ, there's things that

(32:45):
say you can't be in this club or your your
participation with this club is tantamount to some crime just membership.
And again that's open to the interpretation of some person
making a decision about that. And I've seen it where
I've seen I've seen brothers have to in different clubs,

(33:09):
have to lay down their rags because hey, I got
five years till retirement and I can't have this kind
of problem. I've seen guys say, hey, uh, you know, well,
let me go ahead and do these last six months.
I was going to re enlist, but now I love
my club. I ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
To end an official military policy that prevents service members
from joining on one percent motorcycle club.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
Again, it's based on interpretation, but article thirteen of the
I believe, I want to say it's article thirteen of
the you see him Jay, which is we call it,
we used to call it the catch all clause, which
means that's like conduct unbecoming.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
Or wasn't that one thirty four?

Speaker 8 (33:59):
There's one thirty is I think more specific, but there's
a few different clauses that suggest like, for example, you
can't be a member of the KKK, or ironically enough,
in the military, you can't be in the KKK, but
in the police department you can. That's funny, but certain

(34:20):
police departments not yours you good man, but not thrill
though it depends on who's inter are. There are articles
that suggest that you cannot be affiliated or associated with
certain type of organizations, like you can't be a gang
member and join any branch of the military if you
have gang tattoos, for example, you can't join the military.

(34:44):
You can get a waiver for some stuff, but some
stuff is a hard no. So what if you pull
the cryps or the bloods two years into your service, Well,
now that's grounds forgetting a dishonorable discharge.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
So I just to ask rock Western Grock is the
new AI Grock Model four that's being used by x
dot com. I asked it is there a military policy
that prevents service members from joining one percent of motorzart clubs.
It says yes, there is a US military policy that effectively,
so not really, but effectively prohibits active duty members from

(35:20):
joining or actively or actively participating in one percent outlaw
motorzart clubs like the Hells, Angels, Pagans, Outlaws, Banditos, or mongols.
These clubs are often classified by law enforcement and at
f FBI is outlaw motorcycle gangs involved in criminal enterprises,
which triggers the DoD prohibitions on gang and extremist activities.

(35:42):
So there's not necessarily something that prevents you from being
in a motorcycle club, but an outlaw motorcycle club that
has been determined to be an outlaw motorcycle gang, it
looks like there is a DoD thirteen twenty five point
ZH six.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
And it's what you were just saying, handling dissident, protest,
extremist and criminal gang activities among members of the armed forces.
So that was the the KKK and Black Chapels, I guess,
or any damn body else that they don't like criminal
or gangs.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Organization of average advocation.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
That's what I mean by it's open to interpretation. Yeah,
so the person who's who's charging saying, uh, you're a
part of an organization that is that fits X y Z,
and they say, well, you're you participated in a Black
Lives matter protest, which legally you're allowed to First Amendment

(36:42):
rights and all like that. But if you're in the
military and your CEO says, uh, he don't like Black
Lives Matter because he thinks all of this, all of
this right wing uh ultra conservative stuff, then guess what
you'll be charged and possibly convicted. Uh McGee. Uh, that's
my brother up and up in Samford. Good to see you, COVID,

(37:04):
he says u CMJ Article ninety two regarding participation in
extremist or criminal gang activity.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Right here here, it is right there.

Speaker 10 (37:15):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (37:17):
But here's the thing, and the funny thing about it
is is this is that every organization, I don't care
whether you're talking about the Boy Scouts, uh, the Kawanas Club,
or the US Congress has criminals in it. So that
doesn't make them criminal organizations. However, the government is really
good at for their at they're convenient, you know, as

(37:38):
it's convenient to them to label an organization a criminal
organization because one body, one person did a thing once
upon a time. And I'm not naiven say that clubs
haven't done stuff, you know, but this.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Is not when you're thinking about becoming a one percenter
and are our guy in the comments asked this question
do you have activity active duty military? It's important because,
in summary, while not every motorcycle club is banned, one
percenter OMG affiliation is incompatible with military service and can
lead to severe consequences. Like you said, depending on the interpretation,

(38:16):
service members are advised to avoid them entirely. So I
think that's a good question that you should ask. So
if you're thinking about going that way, and how many
military guys do we have in the club and are
we putting their careers on the line by letting them
join or are we're going to change for a one

(38:36):
percent motorcycle club. The third question he asked is does
your club allow law enforcement or former law enforcement? So
big Bone explain that how does that work in the
one percent world?

Speaker 8 (38:48):
So typically law membership in law enforcement is absolutely frowned upon,
not on the set in general, but amongst one percenters
it's typically frowned upon. Now, the funny thing is, over
the past ten years, there's certain clubs who shall remain nameless,
have pretty much embraced the idea of having law enforcement

(39:13):
prior or active in their clubs. Now, all of those
clubs and Unfortunately, there's not very many of them at all,
but those clubs are in some places. They're definitely suspect,
but they're also alienated in a lot of ways. In
some places. I'll say this, certain state up north incorporated

(39:34):
law enforcement members into a one percent or motorcycle club,
and they did it in such a fashion whereas folks
didn't know. People just assume everything you know that they
assume that their standards haven't didn't change. As that information
became more public, the alienation in the and being ostracized,

(39:54):
that club being ostracized spread like wildfire, and that same
exact I'm thinking one club in particular, that same exact
club would then in turn deny the fact that this
was true, even though it was. I mean, with social
media now there's photographs of the officer in uniform and

(40:15):
that same officer wearing that club's rags. I'm not suggesting
that law enforcement cannot join a motorcycle club, but a
one percenter lifestyle is something different. Again, the history, the traditions.
I was told many years ago by a one percenter
that sort of was my mentor, one of my mentors,

(40:36):
i should say. He said, the police have a job
to do you have a job to do. Their job
is to lock you up. Your job is to keep
your black ass out of jail. Because life behind bars
means something different to both of y'all. I'm like, okay,
I get that, and so it's frowned upon. But I
think if you have, if you have law enforcement in

(40:59):
your one percenter motorcycle club, then you need to reevaluate
your whole entire club. I don't care whether that club
has been around for five minutes or fifty years. This
is not a space for law enforcement for a variety
of reasons. Not suggesting that one percent motorcycle clubs by
default are doing crime, I'm saying that the lifestyle of

(41:21):
a one percenter is incompatible with a person whose actual
career is to be up in folks's business and to
arrest people. So if you have powers of arrest, because
like you don't have to be an officer on the beat,
per se. But if you have powers of arrest, and

(41:42):
you know, like for example, a bondsman can arrest somebody
who he has on bond and he needs to put
back in jail, that's more of a re arrest sort
of a situation. That's not the same thing a correctional officer.
Amongst some will say, hey, well he's a jailer. He
going around arresting people. That's true, but he can be

(42:03):
deputized and he can, under certain circumstances make an arrest,
even amongst someone who's already in jail, or if that
deputy who works in the jail is needed on the street,
guess what he's doing. He's an officer of the gd law,
so he can affect and arrest. He's a cop. He
shouldn't be in a one percent of club. There's a

(42:26):
lot of folks that will argue and disagree with me,
And the reason that that will happen now is because
the culture is getting watered down. If we had this
conversation fifteen years ago, there's not one person who would say, oh, yeah,
that's a great idea, whereas now there's people who would
actually argue that point.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
The next question that he asked, if you're like wanted,
you're considering like whether or not you think your club
should be a one percent or moved to the one
percenter aside, He said, who is going to be the
sanctioning one club?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Why is that important?

Speaker 2 (43:03):
And and and explain that that there's a couple of
ways to.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Get a diamond.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
One is to just throw one on, but probably the
better way is to get one handed down. So explain
the differences if you wouldn't.

Speaker 8 (43:17):
Right, I sort of tapped on it a little earlier
when I mentioned in California they're handing them out like
cookies or something like that. I said, And you.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Make somebody very angry when you said that.

Speaker 8 (43:29):
Oh yeah, sorry, all right, But did I lie exactly?
You know, I didn't lie. The thing is and like
I said, I said, California, and you know, because guess
what If I was to say that same thing in Florida,
it would be crickets because it don't happen here. But
in California, for example, a dominant club can say, hey,

(43:52):
you know, we like the way y'all are moving. Da
da da da da uh. And a part of the progression,
a club will start with the one Traditionally, you start
with one piece patch, you pound the ground, you do
as you're supposed to do, you develop a good reputation
in the community, and so forth. Then you go to
two pieces, then ultimately the three pieces. So but in California,

(44:14):
now in some places that's it. Three piece pats. You're MC,
you're on the set. You recognize all that's good. In California,
there's another step, which is that diamond as in how
closely are you associated?

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Well, in Texas you get a diamond too. It would
just have a thirteen in it, you know, if you
were a support you know. So there's a few ways
to a diamond. You don't see that here. You don't
see diamond. Thirteen's really here in the South that much.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
Right, right, Like New York does. New York does all
kinds of stuff. They got a sixty nine things, they
got all kinds of stuff. Shut up. But but yeah,
so those are so. But to answer your questions like this,

(45:05):
so the two ways one it's better, I mean, if
it's got to happen, it's better to have a dominant
say hey, you know, we f what you uh, recognize
who you are and what you're doing. And basically that
that club that receives that diamond is going to be
like a brother to whoever whoever the true dominant is.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
But maybe is it is it?

Speaker 2 (45:31):
He says, So who is going to be is it?
Or is it better or worse to get it from
one nation versus another. Does one have more requirements than another?
Is it important who gives it to you? Or should
you not care?

Speaker 8 (45:51):
I'd say ultimately, at the end of the day, it
doesn't matter how you got it. If you got it,
you got it. And I think the concern would be, uh,
how are you going to keep it? It's it's always
easy to get it than it is to keep it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I would I would say this, I have seen an
area that has a you know, not to ruffle too
many failures, so I got to say this, uh in
the way I'm going to say it. So I have
seen guys get the one percent designation from a club

(46:26):
that is not particularly as strong in an area, and
so now they got it, but they're almost like hiding
with it like that where when they're with that club
or something, uh, and you don't really see them out
strong because they didn't get it handed to them by
the stronger group of all the ones that are in.

(46:46):
And I think sometimes less strong one percent will start
handing those things out to build up their their their
extended family.

Speaker 8 (46:58):
It's the crash test, I mean syndrome. And what I
mean by that is this, they'll say, hey, you guys,
are all right, Damn, here's this diamond. Go go for
it and be fruitful. And if those guys can go
to the hot bar, I'm just making up a name.
If those guys that they just gave a diamond to
they can go to the hot bar and make it
through the night and nobody beat their ass. Then now

(47:22):
the club that gave it to him says, hey, we
can go there too. It's safe. Where you all going.
Why don't y'all go.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
On the experiments? Oh yeah, experiment with them first, work
out this pretty good.

Speaker 8 (47:42):
That's that's how they do. They literally do stuff like that. Now,
the thing that we didn't delve into too tough was
that club that says, hey, we are there, we should
have been did this blah blah blah. They sit down
and take a vote and say we're putting this diamond on,
and and that's that. The question should always be how
are you going to keep it? Because you should expect

(48:04):
that you're not going to be allowed to keep it. Now,
if you think you got what it takes to keep it, hey,
maybe you was right. Somebody's going to be right one
way or the other, either the either the one that
put it on or the one that took it off.
But somebody's going to be right in that situation.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
But the folks that are going to be testing you
are going to be those of your own ilk. Those
that are you're not going to really necessarily be tested
by ninety nine. But the guys that are already in
that would wearing that jewelry would be the ones that.

Speaker 8 (48:40):
So you would think, I know of a support club
that shut down one of them pop up diamond clubs
shut them down and collected all of the all of
the trophies to prove it shut them down. And it
was a support club that did it. Because guys forget
that they put on these best and these diamonds and
they think that the diamond makes them ten foot tall

(49:02):
bulletproof with a twelve. Nah. They breathe oxygen just like
everybody else does. Uh, they bleed like everybody else does,
and they can get their ass beat just like everybody
else does.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
So the support club did they did? They did? They
respect level cup through the room.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
That the support club that that that relieve those gentlemen
of the property. That particular support club was a support
club of another dominant start a situation. Uh, they already
knew about that situation, so when they saw them, they
didn't need to make phone calls and all this stuff

(49:39):
like they do on the movies. They just handled that
business because and ironically enough, that new Diamond club went
to the support club trying to you know who we are,
we're so and so and so and so, and my
understanding was essay said, yeah, and y'all ain't supposed to
be here, and the one cat's like, respect my diamond.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
And so they did and they got that work.

Speaker 8 (50:03):
Yeah, yeah, they got it. So don't get it if
you if you ain't planning on keeping it.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
When I was national president, there was a pop up
diamond club in California, uh, and they were at our
national at one of our parties back in twenty eleven.
The big dominant came there and and surrounded them at
my party and we had to get in between them.

(50:32):
A week later, that whole one percent club patched over
to Black Sappa. They were given permission by the guys
who shut them down. You know, y'all can be Black
Sabbath if y'all want. And that's how we that's how
we took in a diamond club. Hey, they turned out
to be one of our strongest chapters. But they weren't
going to stay in that diamond and be safe.

Speaker 8 (50:52):
Moto Moto Moto Gatto in Texas says, how does one
percenter see L E MC today versus years back? I'm
seeing many L e MC on the set like never before.
I feel like once upon a time, well I already
told you, once upon a time, Uh, L E e

(51:13):
MC was not even close to being respected. In fact,
uh they used to move in silence even though they
you know, they had badges on their day job on
the set and even to this day. And I'll say,
like in Florida, those clubs you see them at very
very public event like Daytona or which is not necessarily

(51:36):
safe per se, but you'll see them at Daytona or
at Harley Davidson. Harley Davidson is uh is like Switzerland.
Anybody's allowed to go to Harley.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
Uh, no issue, you would think so, but I shall
get see.

Speaker 8 (51:53):
That's another thing that's changed. The tradition Once upon a
time was everybody's on a motorcycle. They need to at
some point or know that you're gonna go to Harley
and Harley Davidson knowing that, uh, they do some of
the biggest No matter what stateture in Harley Davidson, at
some point is gonna have a party. Uh so at
a Harley Davidson. A lot of times it's uh, anybody

(52:14):
can go to Harley.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
So you see L E.

Speaker 8 (52:16):
MCS, the law enforcement, motorcycle clubs flock to stuff like that.
But what you won't see you won't see him at
anybody's clubhouse. That ain't gonna happen. You ain't gonna see
him at at my house, at a number of house.
It don't matter white, black or plaid. You ain't gonna
see him in somebody's clubhouse. However, they will go do
do stuff with each other. Or if there's like the

(52:38):
you know, the Kawanas or the Walmart Riders or some
some off brand whichever, you know, they'll they'll do that.
Because if if it's a mom and pop sword club,
they've been around forever and all like that, they deal
with whomever. That's a different situation. But uh, but yeah,
it's different now because you do see a lot more
U L. E. Mcs uh. And I think that has

(53:01):
a lot to do with what's going on in the country.
You know, there's a millennial attitude, and yeah, but some
stuff is getting watered down.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
The next question that he said, if you're trying to
determine whether or not you're ready to be a one
percenter is and and why is this important? This is interesting?
Are you earning the one percent status or are you
paying for it? Can as a club.

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Basically, yeah, but what that means is this in those
areas where in those areas where we're, like I said,
they handing them out like cookies, you got guys who's
on the d so hard that they're kicking up to
the dominant, and they're kicking up to the dominant and
the dominant. Let's say they got a new new addition
to build on the clubhouse and they need some dough

(53:55):
who knows you know that that uh, that club who
is thirsty for that diamond? You know them getting that
diamond might mean that they're getting it and keeping it
on the installment plan.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Oh my god.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
It's also it's also a not a respected situation because
what one percent of worth his salt is paying anybody
for anything? It's hard to get. It's hard to get.
One percenter is the pay at the damn door to
come to the prop my mister Foxy keeps them in line.
You know, relationship with you, you don't get here with

(54:30):
that Foxy.

Speaker 10 (54:33):
You know you know the funny thing about the one
percenters and paying at the door. Man, And I don't
know if it's relationship building or not. Man, you got
some man that will and you got some that could plain.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Man.

Speaker 10 (54:44):
Everybody in different financial you know, Uh musicians, Man, I've
had I had you know my event man, and all
of the outlaws that came, they paid, no problem.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
They came. They wanted to have a good time. They
don't be on no bull crab. They they be welcoming
to pay. Man, Man, how much is it okay?

Speaker 10 (55:05):
But they can go to a motorcycle club and the
club have an anniversary party or a special party.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
Like look, everybody gotta pay, Oh man, what we gotta
pay for? We don't charge all the coming our club.
We all do this and it'd be a man, it'd
be a hole big.

Speaker 8 (55:22):
And you know, here's here's the thing. Here I go
again with tradition and stuff getting watered down the way
it's supposed to be. And Dragon tell me, and I
know from your standpoint, you can speak to this. What
is supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
The way it.

Speaker 8 (55:35):
Always was was like this the dominant. If somebody's doing
their their anniversary or something like that, of course I
can say dominant supposed to slide through. And here's what's
supposed to happen.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
At the door.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
At the door, they hand you a white envelope and
move on. That's how it's supposed to happen.

Speaker 8 (55:57):
And here's the thing. A lot of times, the way
it happens because like here in Florida when uh or
or the way it used to be. For sure, in
a lot of places, when they give you that envelope,
that envelope is worth more than what you was gonna
charge them to come in. In the first place, they're
showing you some love, They blessing you, like hey, we
recognize you, we see you. Happy anniversary. Bam, here's a
bunch of money, and you and your bro's gonna come in.

(56:18):
They already got a spot six, You got a spot
set up up for him, You got security set up
for him.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
You got a girl that's going to take care of them.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
They don't even have to go through the bar, they
don't have to separate, they don't have to move everything
that is being handled.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
They this is the respect.

Speaker 8 (56:35):
This is how it's that's the way it always And
here's the other thing. The craziest thing is like this,
you're gonna go through hit that club with a whole
bunch of money in the envelope, and you're gonna be
gone in forty five minutes to an hour because you
ain't staying there all night. You got one percent of
shit to do, so you're gonna boom, Hey, good to
see that up. Here's that. And when you leave that

(56:58):
club's gonna be like, damn, the big brother. Oh they're
looking at the envelope. Oh, now, big bros just broke
us off. They showed us some love. We like those guys.
We freaking love those guys. Can't wait till next year
to get a bunch more a whole bunch of money,
you know. But now, because certain one percenters don't understand
how this thing's supposed to go, they just assume in

(57:20):
their head, we're supposed to go here. And of course
there's clubs that are hey, come on in. You know,
we're not charging you. But it really is. And this
is the part that folks miss. It's a reciprocal sort
of a thing. There's a reason as to why one
percenters used to go to a place, and folks are
very welcoming to them, you know. And then also it's
a respect thing. Somebody comes to see Lavish. Lavish has

(57:43):
a good reputation throughout North America, you know, so when
folks come to see Lavish, oh, they're gonna come correct
because who wants to be on the wrong side of
a conversation about something that went wrong with Lavish? Because
you're gonna you're gonna look like a fool. Because this
man's got an excellent it's reping solid right, So you
want to be a part of that solidness, not the

(58:05):
guy who came. And now you got to be the
ass that came and don't know protocol and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Hey, one down, Goldie says, today, you brothers have just
filled in the missing piece for this platform. Black Dragon,
the out bad host, Lavish, the police commissioner, Logic, the priest,
Big Bone, the one percenter.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
We got the good he got it all right, Yeah,
but to go clear it up, now, go ahead, Lavish.

Speaker 5 (58:34):
No Bone had just said you know everything that Big
Bone has said.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
Man, those are the stories that I hear when I
sit around the old timers as far as how it
used to be, and then they talk about how you know,
used to got the you know, the envelope you come
in the door. Those are real life stories that I
actually heard, not just heard from sidewalk conversations.

Speaker 5 (58:56):
These are guys that were in the clubs, old heads
that sit.

Speaker 10 (59:00):
Around and talk about the past and now, and I
mean it's so pointing, man, I mean it's so bad
now man, with the with the new way of things.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
Man, you got a lot of these clubs that have
been around for a long time.

Speaker 10 (59:13):
Man, they don't even want to deal with the one
percenters at the club house no more, because.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
There's no one gets in free. If your club is legit,
I pay always. That's called supporting my community. If you
think you are above paying, f you you are never
that big. And that's one of our esteemed one percenters
that we love so much.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
There.

Speaker 10 (59:33):
Yeah, you got people still to this day that say
the same thing because they understand what the support is.
They understand, man, I went through the door because I
got guys that come down in my club right now.

Speaker 5 (59:44):
I watched this happen. They'll come down here and they
know I don't drink.

Speaker 10 (59:49):
They know I don't drink, and they'll just sit up
here and they barely drink, and they'll just say, hey man, listen, man,
I just want to you know, I just want.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
To put this on the bar.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Mm hmmm, I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:00:01):
Hey man, how much is the water? How much is
a pop? Get lavish a pot?

Speaker 8 (01:00:04):
Man? How much is it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:00:06):
Yeah, man, it's four dollars, six dollars whatever. Here, take
this tea, man, I just put this on the bar.
So you have you have people that understand it, and
they and they get what the whole support thing is.
What makes it so bad is that you get the
other side that comes out looking for problems, looking for
trouble right causing chaos. And that's where I feel where

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outlaws get the bad rep from, not from everybody in
their club, but you have the newer hot heads, the
newer Oh man, this is what the outlaw life is.
And they don't understand the rules, they don't get the game.
They don't they don't get that. They haven't been told anything,
or they've been told they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:00:48):
They don't want to hear it because they have in
their head.

Speaker 10 (01:00:52):
I'm all I could do whatever I want to do
however I want to do, man. So I think that's
where that's where the bad thing come at. Because listen,
I've seen this as well as you guys. I'm sure
you've seen it where you can go to certain places
in certain areas, an outlaw, the outlaw clubs come in,

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the whole party.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Shift everybody like, go shit, man, it's about problem.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Man.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
But then I can say that I've.

Speaker 10 (01:01:22):
Been in areas where you get the different outlaws that
come into the party and it's just like we all
looking at them.

Speaker 5 (01:01:28):
Like okay, yeah, okay, they just pulled up, no big deal,
and they having a good time.

Speaker 10 (01:01:34):
And I can see different areas you go to different
clubs and you have the same club that's in a
different chapter in the vibe and the morale is totally off.

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
It's totally off, man. And I think that's just where
you know, some of the some of the bad, bad
rep you know, you know, come from.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
I gotta tell you just just uh on the side here,
uh that blue light and that four K camera is
kicking bro. You man, you are looking good with that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
It looks like you got to.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Let me We're have to delete to some kind of
way and haze this out. I can't have you looking
better than everybody else on the Oh.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
Man, you know I changed you know, I changed colors.
You know, whatever color you want. I changed colors.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
Man, gotta change.

Speaker 8 (01:02:23):
They like the blue though.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Now the MC show, Uh, he's been on this for
a long time, and somebody please explain what is that
these Christian clubs do, because on the set of the party,
I don't see them doing anything that has to do
with the word. Hey, we're going to make that a
whole nother show. We might even do that tomorrow. Uh,
the Christian club thing, Yeah, we might do that. We

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might do that tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (01:02:49):
Okay, now you know not to not to not to
stop off because you said something about the Christian clubs.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
This is what I noticed with the Christian clubs that
do come off of Big Rise and everything. You know
how everybody has a certain place.

Speaker 10 (01:03:00):
I think what I've seen with the few Christian clubs
with Christian guys that come out, I think that you know,
when they come out.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
There, their place is the is the prayer. Yeah, well,
I'm not saying that in the laughing matter.

Speaker 10 (01:03:16):
I'm saying that, like when when they when they come
out to these big rides. You you have you know,
your regular you know person perk club that might do
a prayer. But I think in order when they come
out to have them somewhat involved, you know, they'll act
one of one of those.

Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Members from one of those Christian clubs.

Speaker 10 (01:03:36):
Hey man, you do you mind, you know, leading us
off from prayer before we take this ride. And I mean,
I guess maybe that might be a way of showing
respect and acknowledgement for them even being there. Possibly, I'm
not saying that's what it is, but it could be.

Speaker 8 (01:03:53):
Oh no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Ahead, well hold on for one second. We want to
acknowledge and and say hello to hell Fighters Preacherman, Steve Man.
It's been a long time since we've seen you. I
heard you've been sick, man, and I'm so glad to
see you on the show today. Man, all right, go ahead, Preacher,
I'm sorry, Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:04:11):
Yeah, Since i am the president of the Motorcycle Ministry
and I've been around for a while, I've been around
on the set for eleven years, they're different and I've
seen other Christian clubs and motorcycle ministries is a different
distinction on a set that I have learned, but the
purpose and I was asked by I was asked this
by one of your brothers in y'all clubhouse, big Bone,

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and what is the purpose of a preacher that ricle
when X y Z preacher does this? And I said,
everybody has a different calling. You won't see me do this, this, this,
and this. You might see him or.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Her do this, this, this.

Speaker 9 (01:04:53):
And then I turned it around to him and I said, listen, you,
me and you just sat out here and we talked
about your family, your wife, the pro with your kids.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
He said yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:05:01):
I said, okay, would you to ask that same question
to that other person?

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
He said no. I said, there's your difference.

Speaker 8 (01:05:09):
And they wanted to tell y'all no, And you know
what pasted that. By the way, you nailed it. I
get excited on this subject because in my CEC we
have a chaplain just in fact, we have a chaplain
in our A Bay chapter. And yes he does. Like

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when we start our meetings, it is uh, we start
with the pledge of allegiance. The very next thing we do,
as I called a chaplain, he does a prayer and
a lot of folks saying, oh, that's all he does,
or he might do a bike blessing somewhere once a year,
and that's the exact opposite. Like here a motorcycle ministry
and Christian clubs alike. If you're going to be on

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the set, you're going to fulfill your calling. And if
you don't know what your calling is, we'll tell you
what it is. And but fortunately the guys here, guess
what if a biker goes down, first one at the
hospital is somebody from uh from Warriors of Faith or
Soldiers for Jesus or Christian uh CMA, Christian Motorcycle Association.

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When we do our toy room, which we're in that
season now, when we do the toy drives and the
toy runs, or if somebody's sick, or if somebody needs
some help or we need to raise some money for
some charitable effort. I won't say they're always the tip
of the spear, but they absolutely understand that that's a
part of your deal, that that's a part of if

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you're if you're here, then you need to be of service.
And fortunately, if you talk to any one of these
cats over here, they're going to tell you that quicker
than than we could say it like, it's not the
sort of thing where we have to say you're not
doing your job. But we have had a circumstance, not
I'm going to too much detail on it, but we
had a we had somebody, uh, president of one of

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the the motorcycle ministries who would show up to every
meeting and that's about it. But the other, you know,
the other X number of days in the month, you
ain't gonna hear him, see him or nothing else. So, uh,
the cat that's here now, and look, he understood his assignment.
In fact, he understood his assignment before he got the

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position of chaplain. He's been doing it, not just for
not just for the clubs and the outcasts and outlaws
and so forth, all the other clubs in the COEC.
He's been doing this. And our chaplain is a pastor
of an actual church, rides motorcycle. It wouldn't blink, I mean,

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wouldn't even raise an eyebrow to see him in every
one percent of his clubhouse on a Friday night, because
he his his congregation outside of his church is the
set congregation. He has a two wheel ministry. A lot
of these guys do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
So let's move back. Let us move back to uh,
we still got three questions to get through. Did we
ever answer is the importance of the sanctioning club? Did
we ever answer that? Or did we do that well?

Speaker 8 (01:08:13):
I don't think we did it well.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
So is it important who's going to be sanctioning you?

Speaker 8 (01:08:19):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Okay? And why it is?

Speaker 8 (01:08:23):
Because either you're going to be sanctioned or you're going
to do everything completely independent, you know, like you're going
to just put it on and say that's that. And
even in that circumstance when you declare yourself a one
percenter club, there is still protocol that happens. You at
that point should announce to the other dominance that you're here,

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where you're going to be moving and grooving and so
on and so forth. That conversation or that declaration is
either going to be one of cooperation or of confrontation,
but it will be one of them, one or the other.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
But my home.

Speaker 8 (01:09:02):
Ever, then you'd assume if this club, and this is
depending on where you are and so forth. Here, if
a club put a diamond on another club, there's going
to be pushedback. But now the question is, well, if
if they're big brothers gave them that diamond. You know,

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we do. We respect this because you know, I ain't
trying to have no diamonds up in my face. But
these guys are cool. We you know, we deal with them.
But they're handing out diamonds. It gets real funky, man,
It can get real funky because everything changes. This is
why I would suggest the clubs to seriously consider putting
that diamond on because there's a lot of stuff that

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goes along with it, and a lot of it is
not written down in black and white anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
All Right, the next question, so we we do know
that you okay, we already asked that, are you earning
it or paying for it? So the next question is
do you and your members of your club understand the
history of the one percent?

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Moniker? Is that important?

Speaker 8 (01:10:10):
Knowing your history is extremely important? I find it. I mean,
I mean, it pisss me off when I run into
somebody who's on the set, you know, claiming that they're
a certain something or other and they don't even know
what that is. My first year in my club. You
know what I said for that first year, nothing. I

(01:10:30):
didn't say nothing because I yeah, I was a proby.
But once you put on them rags. I spent the
next year learning stuff, learning how to be a good bro,
learning what this means. And I thought I knew everything. Man,
you know, I've been on the set forever. I thought
I knew some of everything. But I knew just enough
to know how stupid a statement like that or a

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thought like that could be. So for the first year,
I said very little. Y'all know, I'm a talker that
first year. I remember in church when I finally went
to talk about a thing, my chapter president said, oh,
you do know how to speak? Huh. But I was
told for about a year, man, just sit down, shut up.
You got two eyes and two ears and only one

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hole for your mouth. So use that other stuff first,
And that's what I did. And learn your history, learn
why you're here, learn how this stuff works. So speaking
of this stuff is because somebody didn't teach that bro.
So when he goes out there acting a fool and
like lavish, say, creating chaos, that's because he's not educated.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So speaking of history, big Hoot says, black Dragon, can
you touch on the different colors of the diamonds and
how that can get you in trouble with other diamonds?
It's crazy that diamonds have certain colors and those colors
mean something.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
Can you speak to that?

Speaker 8 (01:11:55):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
But I uh who gives you your diamond can can
determine the color of that diamond. And and so it's
like we're in a support patch, uh, in a in
a wrong area, uh, and people are going to look
at the color of that I can speak to it.
People look at the color of that diamond and it

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could absolutely be trouble. So we're back to that other
question is that we talked about do you understand the
history and who's giving you the diamond?

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
Those all kind of tied together.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
And last one, uh, does your club understand the responsibility
and burden that oilmcs with that patch have and what
that status actually means, especially I'm going to add, especially
to law enforcement and stuff like that. What what are

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the negative things about having a one percent diamond on
your chest?

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):
Sir?

Speaker 8 (01:12:57):
You become responsible for every stupid ass thing that somebody
else with that uh that where's the same stuff that
you do? You become uh blamed for or uh blame
for and or associated with every stupid action that anybody
else does. You know, Like in boot camp of one

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of your guys in your squad messed up the whole
The whole squad or the whole platoon is getting punished
for it. Think of that on a on a national level,
you get painted with a with a brush that you
didn't necessarily earn uh, And typically that's a very negative thing.
When my brother's UH saved a woman and a child

(01:13:41):
from a burning car, they didn't say, Wow, one percentage
are out there saving babies. They didn't say that. But
if a brother runs a red light, then we become
the whole nation is a bunch of red light runners.

Speaker 5 (01:13:55):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 8 (01:13:58):
I'm watering down the statement for a few reasons, of course.
But the thing is that you you get a target
put on your back from law enforcement, and it can
even expand into things like like where you want to live.
And you know, in Florida we're dealing with some laws.

(01:14:19):
I won't go into it, but we're dealing with that
HB four twenty nine. And if HB four twenty nine passes,
you can't live where you want to live no more,
because you on that list. You wouldn't am You can't
just bad. Yeah, it's natural bad, it's all bad. Yeah,
And that ideology is already in place. That law, should

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it pass, will just make it very enforceable and you
can't and and unarguable if that law passes. But there's
a lot of stuff that goes along with being a
one percenter. You should conscientiously make the decision that if I,

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if I do this and not even starting a new club,
not even switching your club, but should you join the
responsible brothers in your responsible brothers Before you join that club,
should have a serious conversation with you and let you
understand the good, the bad, and the ugly, you know,

(01:15:23):
because it's not all And don't get me wrong, people
do this. We all ride motorcycles and do our club
shit because we love the lifestyle. We love riding motorcycles.
We like the parties, the events, the charity work, the
recognition amongst not the world, but those five kids, and
you just hook them up for Christmas. The smile on

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that kid's face will keep you going for another twelve months, right,
because you ain't going to get that love from the
police department or from the from the governor's mansion.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Right.

Speaker 8 (01:15:56):
So you do it because you want to do it.
So let me say it like this. Here's here's the
deal with one one percenters is this is one percenters
in a nutshell. It's and I say this all the time.
You do your thing, I'll do my thing. As long
as your thing ain't gonna interfere with my thing. We
ain't gonna have a thing one percenters. Our ideology is
like this, I'm gonna do what I want to do,

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and I understand this consequences. If I'm okay with dealing
with the consequences, I'm gonna do whatever I want to do.
And that's the difference between one percentage and everybody else.
Because most folks they see a red light, they see
that red light, and they think, I better stop at
this red light because I'm supposed to stop at this
red light. One percenten sink is this red light inconvenient

(01:16:39):
for me? Because if it is, let me go ahead
and handle my business. He gets pulled over for a ticket, Yeah,
he's gonna argue the ticket, maybe, but guess what, he
made that decision before he got to that red light.
He made that decision last year.

Speaker 10 (01:16:53):
And I think every club got that one percenter. I
think every club got that one And I say that
all the time. I'm that one percenter in my club.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
I'm that.

Speaker 5 (01:17:05):
I'm that guy that's running that red light. I deal
with if they stop me. Yeah, I'm the guy that
don't want to follow the rules. I'm the guy that's
you know, does everything.

Speaker 8 (01:17:16):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:17:16):
I'm the guy that does everything that you're not supposed
to do and didn't worry about it, Like why did
you do this?

Speaker 5 (01:17:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:17:23):
I just want to That is it. I say that
all the time. I say all the time people argue,
you know, I want to argue this point. I say,
most clubs have a one percenter in that club. He
just don't. He just don't. He's not wearing a diamonds.
Not one club but that do so. One percenters are
not born or excuse me, one percenters are not made.

(01:17:45):
They're born. You were one percenter before you got to
the club. You just had to get to that club
before you could put on the jewelry. That's all it is.

Speaker 10 (01:17:55):
Yeah, and that's that's what it is. I mean, the
same attitude, the same thing I've had. I've had people
beforehand asked me, they like, you know what laps I
thought all this time, I thought you was a one percenter?
I said, why'd you think that? I just thought you
was an hour log club? And I say stuff like,

(01:18:15):
I mean what I never said too much about anything? No,
just the way you carry yourself. I mean you're always
in all black, the stuff that you say, the way
that you walk, the clubs that you do hang out at.
And I'm like, oh, okay, no, man, I don't bleed
out man.

Speaker 8 (01:18:30):
Right right, but look like you said it best. Every well,
we said it best. Every club has a one percent
in it. No, I won't say every club, but a
lot of clubs do. Yeah, where do you think we
come from? Most of nowadays? Uh, the club they're in
is not their first club nowadays, A lot of one

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percenters came from somewhere else, right, And and there's a reason,
just the fact that he thought he could be a
one percent. That's half the one percent of ideology. Anyway,
I can do what I want to do. I want
to go to that club, I'll go to that club.
But I guarantee you eighty percent of the club that
he's in wouldn't even dream of such a thing. While

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you're thinking, I can do whatever I want. And that's
that's some of that one percent. Sh what's up about Yeah,
I see, I see. What's happening for talking about you earlier? Yeah, Georgia.

Speaker 5 (01:19:26):
A big bowl.

Speaker 8 (01:19:27):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:19:27):
That's like I had told Black Dragon about my I
don't want to go too deep into it because they
get pissed off when I talk about it. But the color,
the color of the color of my patch, the color
of my patch versus the color that they said that
I needed to have, and I want the whole I
want the whole term with the color I wanted.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
Versus the color that and they brung it up. Man, listen, man,
I had different chapters.

Speaker 10 (01:19:51):
They secretly, you know, spoke it up to the to
the top dogs and they're like, hey, man, listen, man,
you know you're supposed to be this is the uni form.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
I'm like, no, well, you know what, this black and
white looks better on me.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
So uh interesting, this guy said Muszlplex said, I know
of diamond clubs are timpting the blessed ninety nine percent
individual members with a diamond And he's laughing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Uh, but I have seen that many times, and that's
that's not out of the ordinary thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
Yeah, that's absolutely think it's a it's an absolute honor
to have that Uh, the question is where do you
wear that diamond that's been given to you by a
one percent club?

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
That's the question. And and and so if where do
you where do you position it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Yeah, and and the answer is inside your vest exactly,
not on the outside, because you're not in a diamond club,
although the club may think you're a diamond individual. Uh.
And that's that's that's a diamond you put inside your
vest next to your heart or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
That's exactly that. Okay.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Yeah, And so there's not a lot of them, but it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Fortunately not a lot of them. But then that happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
It does happen, and it's not something you'd really talk about,
but if you ever needed to. And the reason that
if you ever needed to, you just opened that vest
up and and uh, who gave it to you? And
and what color it is and what club it came from?
That all means some shit.

Speaker 5 (01:21:22):
Uh, Man, I just learned something totally new, man. I mean,
I guess that's a good thing too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:21:27):
When you be up on this, when you be up
on here, man, with different people with different backgrounds of knowledge, Man,
you you learn you learned something, man, Because I never
I thought that I have thought that, to be honest
with you, if I thought that for myself, like yeah, man,
I can so and so and so, and you know
that would be like I should.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
But I never knew that that really.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
Existed. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
So that's that's you know. I mean, I think a
lot of us on here probably just learned something new.

Speaker 8 (01:21:56):
Yeah, and you know that's that's because uh, that's because
dragon's very old.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Probably one time I i've heard of that is that
a thing? It is absolutely a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
Uh, it's just not gonna it doesn't You really would
are a respected person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
And all that kind of stuff for a diamond to
hand you a diamond.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:22:21):
When he asked to get one.

Speaker 8 (01:22:25):
I also saw I've seen this before where having that
conversation the one Uh, I was at a place and
someone opened inside of his vest and showed someone else
I got this from so and so and da da
da da da. Guy said, man, how did you get that?
He said, none of your business?

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
As in, you know, he probably lost it.

Speaker 8 (01:22:47):
He no, he earned it. The guy earned it, but
he wasn't going to tell how it was earned. That diamond.
So the dude that was asking about it, in turn
turns around and went to speak with the president of
that certain motorcycle club and said, hey, you know, I'm
down with so and so and so. Can I get

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me one of them too? He was acting like he
was asking for like a I don't know, like a
cross country patch or something like can I get one
of them too? Kind of like I mean, he was
asking for it, but he was like making light of
the importance of it. Right, So when he got out
of the hospital, I'm pretty sure he felt differently the

(01:23:31):
way that he did that because it's a big deal
for someone to do that, you know, but it's not
a good idea to go, you know, trying to you know,
because that that could be perceived and as a very
disrespectful thing, like give me your diamond that you worked
and you know your your blood, sweat and tears to

(01:23:53):
get and you went through all that. No, just give
me one. I can put it right. And no, that
didn't work out, So don't ask for one. But if you,
if you're solid and you find yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
You might have one given to you. Some solid work,
you may have one given to you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
Now I'm still laughing about the hit when he got
out the hospital.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
As you never wear not even in your vests, you
put it in a lock box. I've had several given
to me, but before he became a one percenter, and
that was the rule told to him. So there are
different you know, if different rules, different sets do it
different ways, and but he definitely had some given to
him before he became a one percenter himself. Uh, if

(01:24:41):
you were individually given a diamond, would it would be
would it be the club that gave it to you?
Are color blind your club's colors? I'm not sure if
I understand that. If you are individually given a diamond,
would it be the club that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:55):
Gave it to you color blind your colors?

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
So if you are individually given a diamond, you'll never
wear that thing on the outside of your cut because
your club is not a diamond club. So and the
person that gives it to you will give you the
rules by which you can have it, and it's not
something you're supposed to be flashing around. Okay, So here's
he asked it better.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
If you're individually given a diamond, would it be the
club's color or your club's color? I would imagine, Hey,
I got I keep going, I gotta go. Yeah, me too,
I was about to say, Man, it's twenty five, I
gotta get we all need to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, No,
I like this conversation. Man, we got to do it again.

(01:25:43):
I know, I got to get out of here.

Speaker 5 (01:25:44):
I got some stuff to do myself and everything like that.

Speaker 8 (01:25:48):
Man.

Speaker 10 (01:25:48):
But I just definitely learned something, you know, different, learned
something new about that, about that, you know right there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
So here's another guy.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Bishop says, if it is given, it should not be one,
even on the inside of your vest. So there are
definitely people that see it different ways.

Speaker 8 (01:26:06):
And yeah, that's what I mean. The tradition and the protocol,
it varies depending on sometimes geographical and sometimes based on
who gave it to you, Like, the tradition in one
club might be different in another club. Like there's certain

(01:26:26):
things that's different on the black set and the white set,
you like Shaggy can tell you, like on the white side,
there's no such thing as social clubs. And he has
a wonderful story about the first time he experienced or.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
You know, the Pagans have one. The Pagans have one
now they have one. Yeah, I actually met him.

Speaker 8 (01:26:48):
So that's the reason reason for that, because the Pagans
aren't the same club now that they were once upon
a time, right, you know they they got folks with
hands up in there now.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
I've heard, Yeah, I've heard too.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
I heard I actually met one and uh yeah, I
met one and then and that's where the social Club
came from. Yeah, he bought the social clothes with him.
He brought the social club with him, he did. So
that's down here in Atlanta. That happened here in Atlanta.
I don't know if it's if it's still a I
don't know if he's still in or not, but it did.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
It did happen. Uh so, Hey, it shocked the ship
out of me.

Speaker 2 (01:27:29):
Uh Foxy asked, uh, why do people have boots spurs
given to them?

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
And that's a new one on me. I've never seen
that one.

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
Yeah, the boots spurs. It's a whole thing with that.
My brother was trying to explain that to me, and
that's one of those few things that always throws me
off because I've heard like ten different versions of why
it is. And it's not even two boots spurs, it's
one boot spur. But you know what, Foxy, I'm going
to get to the bottom of that because I don't
want to tell you the story.

Speaker 1 (01:27:58):
That's one Black Dragon does. And no, I don't know
that one.

Speaker 8 (01:28:01):
The whole thing with the boot spurs, but I want
to find with the boots spur, I should say, but
because I know a few bros that wear them, and
and everybody I talk to always has a completely different story.
But I'm gonna I'm gonna get with somebody that's a
little older and grayer than me, because I really, actually
I want to know the answer to that. Yeah, I'm

(01:28:25):
supposed to be like Wikipedia for bikers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
An homage to the cowboy days and what they are
used for.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
So somebody knows.

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Okay, sounds like the truth, you know, that sounds more
like the truth because I don't even want to That's
what I'm saying. I don't want to even repeat some
of the stuff that I heard because I'm like, I
don't know about that one.

Speaker 2 (01:28:50):
You know, And he said I had this guy says
I had to brow given a hammer pin from a
dominant club. I've never seen a hammer pin, and I have, in.

Speaker 8 (01:29:01):
Fact a certain club down here. When they were trying
to get set up in the state of Florida, we're
told you have to remove those hammer pins because we
don't do that here. There's a specific club that gives
those hammer pins.

Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
I can imagine probably which one it is, of course,
So okay, so that that's I've not ever seen a
hammer pin, you know. I just I get amazed, like
shit up here and speak I know, oldest knowledge. And
every day, man, there's something new.

Speaker 8 (01:29:32):
Every day I learned something new that yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Comes on here. So okay, we're gonna get out of here. Oh,
profit did a YouTube video about it. Maybe I'm gonna.

Speaker 8 (01:29:47):
I'm just gonna call them.

Speaker 1 (01:29:48):
And asking yeah, yeah, the heel for the heel toe shifters.

Speaker 10 (01:29:52):
All right, I gotta get up out of here, man,
I don't wanna catch up with y'all. Man, it's been
a pleasure, big bombing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
I'm out of here, all right, brother, take care.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
Hey, I really appreciate you coming on today, especially with
such short notice. Man, and you just really made the
show today as always, brother, I I love you and
appreciate you man, and you definitely will be getting an
invitation to the wedding, so.

Speaker 8 (01:30:19):
All right, right on, right on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:21):
I'll make sure too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
We had we had the MC shows trying to come
on and ask a question, but I couldn't get my
stuff to work. I got to reboot it. So we'll
get you tomorrow with that question, my brother. We didn't
We didn't forget you. Uh, And the final thing will
go out with fox. He says, definitely no such thing
as a social club wearing a dominant club support patch

(01:30:47):
on the white set.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Hell no, but there's.

Speaker 8 (01:30:50):
Also there's really no social clubs.

Speaker 1 (01:30:52):
On the white whitet. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Yeah, so that's not even an issue that they would
have to deal with. Yeah, bootspurs on a motorcycle club
MC sets are decorative.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Oh I don't think so.

Speaker 8 (01:31:08):
There's something else going on here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Yeah, but he looked that up somewhere. He's, uh, that
was jet.

Speaker 8 (01:31:18):
By the way, I've discovered chat GPT is so incredibly
wrong about biker related topics. It is incredible how wrong
they are.

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
But it's important that you correct it. You have to
correct it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
When you read chat it will allow you to correct it.
And if you correct like the other day, they said
Chosen Few was an all black club and I corrected
it and it went out and found the sources and
then it readjusted.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
So you have to understand that Chat GBT.

Speaker 2 (01:31:48):
And these other voice models are being trained, and they're
being trained by people that are prejudiced against the biker
club community, so it actually makes sense. Yeah, it's being
trained to be the prejudicial towards bikers and anything else,
any marginalized group. So if you're part of a marginalized
group and you're asking chat, b jet, Chat, GBT or

(01:32:10):
GROC or any of those a question that you are
barred any of those that you know wrong. You can
correct it on the spot. It'll go out and find
especially if you give it sources, it'll go validate, and
then now it'll be right for everybody else. So that's
something to think about. Hey, brother, thank you so much.

Speaker 8 (01:32:26):
Oh hey, can I take ten seconds to brand some
stuff right quick?

Speaker 1 (01:32:30):
Oh? Absolutely.

Speaker 8 (01:32:31):
If you get a chance, go to and this is
super important if you like the lifestyle that we're living
and you're on the set, especially if you're on the set,
go to change dot org and sign the petition to
fight HB four twenty nine. That's this bill that they're
trying to make a law in Florida basically eroding all

(01:32:52):
rights of bikers. They're trying to be able to label
anyone they want as a gang member and I'm not
oversimplifying it when I say that. Change that and just
put in the search fight HB four twenty nine, this
hotel Bravo four two niner. So help us with that.
Sign that petition, because yeah, we got some heavy lifting

(01:33:13):
to do. Uh, this ising just about a petition. We're
gonna go to Tallahassee. We're gonna sit down again with Senators, congressman, lobbyists,
and lawyers so that we can change a law that's
gonna help everybody, not just in Florida, ultimately in the
United States. Check out WFLCOC dot org. That's for West
Florida Confederational Clubs dot org. We'll have information on there.

(01:33:36):
Change dot org. If you're in an area, join your
local COOC, join your abait chapter in your area. If
you don't know how, hit me up. I'll tell you how.
I'll help you out. Get in this fight with us.
But that's all I got And thank you for the
time to say that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:33:52):
All right, take care of my brother, respect and love
your honor, respect, and I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
Man.

Speaker 8 (01:34:00):
On Sunday on the Big Boneyard on Sunday. Check it out.
It's on YouTube, The Big Boneyard micro podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:34:05):
Maybe I'll get invited to that show sometimes Funday be
inviting me to stuff I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:34:12):
All right, man, I appreciate you. Take care later.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Man, Hey man, it's your boy Black Dragon. Thank you
guys for being on this long show. I hope you
learned some things here. Basically, if you want to go
that one percent route, what I've heard and the reason
I wanted to do that show is because we had
those all those guys that really got.

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
A bunch of jail time, and.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
Maybe not so much that they had to do jail time,
but they definitely have been put on paper for decades
and they were all ninety nine percenters and they all
went into the one percent world. And one of the
biggest things I heard is is about what you think.
It's something you got to be ready for. It's something
you need to be prepared for. And we were given
this list of things to look for and ask questions

(01:35:00):
and you know, make some of the right decisions. But
the biggest thing to remember is, man, have some common
sense about what you do. Whatever you do, my man,
I was so blessed to have a big bone on
as well as my co hosts lavish and logic. These
guys are just really great people and we appreciate how

(01:35:22):
they're holding it down for the biker club community. Goldie said, Hey,
we had all the elements today. We had the out
bad host, we had the police commissioner, we had the priest,
and we had the bad boy, the one percenter. So
we had a great show today. Hey, thank you to
my one percenters out in the chat, especially those that
sent me these. I know I can't really mention your name,

(01:35:43):
and that's why I haven't, but thank you guys so
much for helping our show today and all of those things.
Barker News Canada's good to see you man, and everyone,
take care of have a great day. That's my two cents.
Love to hear your two cents in the comments section below.
Thanks for tuning in, y'all, and let me get the
right buttons to get the hell out of here. Thanks
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(01:37:33):
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