War Dog Executed in Daylight Police Find Pickup Used in Shooting

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Well man, a shot some guy off his motorcycle for
bikers in clubs. That's like the absolute worst death. I

(00:39):
think there's two things I fear. One is running into
some shit a dumbass left on the highway because they
couldn't strap their mattress down or they couldn't keep the
container from blowing out of the back of their pickup truck. Like,
you got real dense, dim witted people out there. I

(01:00):
even almost ran into like four hay squares, you know,
bales of hay. I was coming around a corner, coming
around a curve on two eighty five. You you move
from two eighty five to eighty five, it's a bridge,
it's in the sky, and you make this huge curve

(01:20):
and you bank and you drop your motorcycle down and
you act like you're Mario Andretti or somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, and then there's these.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Barrel, these these these haystacks, and you got and you're
linked over. You got to come up and this one.
Now you're heading off the bridge because you popped up
and it's nothing but other highway below you. So if
you hit the bridge and fall over and survive the fall,
you're getting run over. One hundred times, so you pop
up and you pop back down, you pop up. So

(01:54):
one of the worst things I fear is running into
some something an idiot left on the high irresponsibility. You
should just get ten years in prison for that. And
the second thing is being shot off my bike. Like
in the mozyc club world, you know, you would think
that you would give a person opportunity to get off

(02:16):
their bike and square up with you. Anyway, this is
a horrible incident that has happened, and it's got gang
a gang, a gang, a gang, gang gang written all
over it. We hadn't named the motorcyc clubs. Actually we
didn't touch the story for a few days until more
came out of the news. So it has finally come out.

(02:36):
Names of clubs have been issued, so we'll talk about
it now. But it's a horrible thing and we that
we may know where it came from, where it's dimmed from,
but definitely some messages have been sent and it'd be
open warfare on the street. So we're going to talk
about that. That shooting and the police have found so

(03:01):
long story short, somebody got shot off their motorcycle. Police
have found the truck involved and we'll talk about the
things not looking good for clubs, but hey, we know.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
What we're getting into when we get in and we sign.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Up for this.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
But then you want to scream foul anytime somebody pulls
you over and treats you like a gang member. And
then maybe we might get around to talking about loyalty.
I've made a couple of videos on loyalty and dislow behavior,
and we might get a chance to talk about loyalty
this morning. So that is what we'll be covering in

(03:38):
about a minute and seven seconds when we return. So,
a member of the War Dogs motorcycle club was executed
in broad daylight. Police found the pickup truck that was used,
and we'll talk about some of the things that we've
learned thus far as we put it in the news.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
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Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah well alrighty then it's a boy Black Dragon from
Black Dragon Biker TV, the Biker News Network, the Black

(05:50):
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and biker.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
News you can use, and biker news from a biker
this point of you.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Yes, yes, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
And I'd just like to thank you. I would like
to thank you.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
I would like to thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yes, and I'd like to introduce my co host. We
are the only motorcycle club Protocol and news biker news
channel and entire world to have our very old doctor.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Logic in the house.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
What was going on, Black Dragon was going on?

Speaker 7 (06:41):
Everyone Happy Wednesday, what they call this hump day, Happy
hump Day.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
That was a whole minute long there. I like that introduction.
I think people are tired of me screaming. What do
you think that that's your thing?

Speaker 7 (06:55):
Man?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Remember that day you didn't do it.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I didn't feel like doing it, Like nah, I didn't
feel like doing it now. And I was like, he's
going to make me do it again?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, you got here in a minute of this is
Black Dragon.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Nah.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Sometimes I just don't have the energy. My man, oh man,
this is horrible. This Uh, let's get right to it.
This is this is the part of the whole news
reporting thing I don't like. And I and this is
why I'm really thinking about getting out of news. I've
been telling you about this a long time. I've been
thinking about getting out of the news and just doing
interviews and stuff like that. You know, we've been talking

(07:35):
about that and uh, I want to get like twenty
interviews lined up, and I think I might only do
news once a week.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I get so sick of this, s h I T
I get sick of talking about it.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
And I'm so glad that I was never in the
motorcycle club world that dealt with this on a daily basis.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
So the story goes, let me fight the actual story.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, So this is we've known about this for a
few days, and we get a lot of calls in
and people that are in the area tell us stuff.
But they never like want to be hey, you didn't
you didn't get this from me, bro. They don't want

(08:25):
to be put on record you you didn't hear this
from me. But and I'm like, well, if I didn't
hear it from you, who in the hell do I
say I heard it from? So they always, uh yeah,
call you up whispering it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
You know, you didn't hear this from me.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But we're not going We're not going live with that.
We're not going live. We're not going live. You hear that,
We're not going live with that. If you call me
up whispering, it's just going to be a conversation between
you and me. Uh, if I can't. Uh, Boss Sock said, Nah,

(09:05):
you just you got to keep screaming. I told you,
I told you, it's a party. It's a party of you,
b D. Don't stop being you see you don't want
to listen to me.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Have I been wrong yet?

Speaker 1 (09:18):
You've been wrong? Just know about anything between us yet.
But I know there's some wrong in you somewhere. You
gotta you got some wrong in you. So this, uh,
this we we don't we're not going to do the
the You heard it from me, but you didn't hear
it from me. We can't talk about that like that.

(09:41):
We have to wait, uh until we have it in
the news. So here's the story. Let me pull this up.
I share the screen. I will share it with the sound,
but I'll turn the sound off. That way you won't echo.
Let me know if you're echoing. Maybe they fixed it.
So here screen one here? Sure, yes, are you echoing?

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Ted?

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
Yep?

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
It used to work like butter and now they've messed
it up. All right.

Speaker 1 (10:11):
So here's the story that this is the story as
we have it. But we've we've known about this since
it happened. Uh, and we've heard all these stories, but
now that it's been printed. So this is Jennifer Barosso
and she's been covering this story up there.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
CBS.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
Pittsburgh police say they found the pickup truck connected to
a deadly shooting in the middle of White Oak Section
on Sunday afternoon. What happened was a biker, a member
of the War Dogs motorcycle club, was shot off his
motorcycle in broad daylight in the back, whilesting on his motorcycle.
Like we've always thought that that was unfair and okay,

(10:52):
in war, there's no fair, of course, sure, but damn yeah,
get shot shot off your motorcycle is like completely unproductive,
Like it's completely unfair. Okay, there's no fair in war.
There's no productivity in war. But it's like completely non objective. Okay,
there's no objectivity. What is there in war? It's horrible,

(11:13):
It's absolutely horrendous. This man was shot off his motorcycle,
at least two shots in the back. We don't think
that's mainly to be shot in the back. I mean
the Americans and I'm from Oklahoma, the cowboy whole cowboys
shit and facing the guy up at you know, at
high noon at the ok corral that sort of thing.

(11:34):
I can see Foxy doesn't like my screams though, however,
so this is a horrible thing. So no arrest were made,
so they found the pickup truck. No arrests were made
as of Monday night, but but sources tell KD KATV
that the pickup truck was believed to be connected to
the shooting. It was from found in Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland County,

(11:56):
about twenty five miles from White Oak from you guys
from that area nowhere that is Is that in Virginia
or is that in in uh.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Pennsylvania? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Alleghany County police are still searching for the suspects involved
in the incident that happened in broad daylight at the
intersection of Jack Jack's Run Road and Lincoln Way near Wendy's.
But if I'm Wendy, I don't want my name or
associated That's sources say. The victim, thirty three year old
Kenneth Hayman, was part of the motorcycle club. So when

(12:28):
we had just this story, we just didn't didn't run
with it. But now we know he was part of
the War Dogs motorcyc Club, which opens up a whole
bunch of questions. Police say Hayman was shot while on
his motorcycle at the intersection. Sources said told Kadka TV
that Hayman was shot at least twice in the back

(12:48):
like the most hideous thing that that was. There was
no that was either. That was to send a clear
cutting message. We ain't playing, uh, this is there's just
this is where this is.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
This is war.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Jasmine Reinhart, who was working in the shopping plaza behind
the Wendy's. Reinhart said she saw she heard about five
gunshots and saw the victim fall off his motorcycle. Five gunshots,
bang bang bang, bang, bang bang, And you know, you
look over there and you catch it out the side
of your eye, see somebody fall off their motorcycle and

(13:25):
you think, oh my god. She rein Hart's manager said,
right after the shots were fired, he tried to crawl
to somebody over at Wendy's for help. Rein Hart said,
I've been there, I have been almost executed, and I
remember the crawl.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
For me.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
It was McDonald's. I remember crawling to somebody for help.
It was a McDonald's and the lady jumped over the
counter to save me, and I will appreciate her for
my entire life. I don't even know who she is.
She's probably an old lady. Now, police say the shooters

(14:04):
were inside a pickup truck, armed with long guns and
wearing masks. I heard on Insane Throttle Hollywood say his
sources said that it was AK forty seven, at least
one AK forty seven that was used. I say, if
they found the truck there, they are guaranteed to find
the guy soon, right, they can't be too far? Rinhart said, well, no,

(14:25):
they could have used a stolen truck and all that
kind of stuff. Jasmine's girlfriend, who works in the plaza,
has questions. Jasmine's girlfriend Okay, has questions. Am I where
are you reading it?

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Right there, Jasmine. So she was the one talking, and
so her girlfriend, who also works in the plaza, has questions.
This definitely looked like a targeted Yeah, it does like
something targeted. She said, this definitely looked like a targeted.
Something targeted. Who would just go out in masks? Taylors
and he said, we are all a little shook, scared, worried,

(15:10):
what's going on? Why would somebody do that in broad daylight?
So whoever did the attack was wearing masks. Obviously somebody
saw them in masks. They had long guns. Hollywood sources
said they were AK forty seven's and they shot up
this man at least twice in the back. The lady
says she heard five gun shots. Now, it was at

(15:33):
this point that we decided to run with the story.
Jennifer Barrosso, who wrote the story, put an update up
on Facebook.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
When does she put this update up? Last night?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
New information in the White Oak deadly shooting the victim
was part of the war Dog So that's why we
named that club motorcycle club, Katieka has learned. Sources also
say Sunday shooting may have some link to an incident
that happened out of Washington County biker bar in August.
That's when you remember we did that story that Pagan
was set upon by like twenty war dogs.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Please say.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Thirty three year old Kenneth Hayman was shot on his
motorcycle at the intersection, so he was later he later
died inside that pickup truck police believe were three to
four mass men armed with long gun. Sources tell me
police found the suspect truck at Mount Pleasant, Westmoreland County.
No arrest had been made yet. I'm told investigators are

(16:29):
looking at an assault that happened at forty Bar and
Grill in North Franklin, TWP, Washington County in August. During
that during a Katie Kat television interview, the bar owner
told me she believed it was a targeted attack. So
what they believed was the club, the club that targeted

(16:50):
that pagan or pagans. It was a target attack, and
sources said the victim may have been a different biker club.
The owners bartender told me they had clubs, bats, knives, guns.
I'm assuming he said, dozens of motorcycle club members known
as the war Dogs targeted one of the bar's regulars. Yeah,
beating him under a booth. And I heard that he

(17:13):
was an older guy. I'm not sure, but I heard
he was an older guy, and like she said, dozens,
at least twenty of them. We heard at last check,
no arrest were made. Well, no arrest were made, but
maybe some payback happened. That was the first comment here
from a guy, Harley Hardy, who says maybe a little

(17:34):
retaliation for mopping the floor with that pagan down at
the forty bar. So, well, if the truck was found
in the territory of one club, should be easy to
figure out.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
The clubs are there's so many clubs all over, they
don't have territories anymore.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
They're everywhere.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
They must have had a tracker on his bike and
in the end, still a human life lost. The family
dealing with tragedy, questions left unanswered. True said, so it
was a hit basically, Well, now, uh, now you put
the bartender at risk.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
So it goes on and on a lot of folks
the streets are talking.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
And uh, a lot of folks think that this was retaliation,
and and uh it's now been posted on the news.
This young lady just posted it.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Uh that the the.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Reporter who's been reporting on it. And so now that
they put the names up, we we go with the names.
We don't ever do that stuff unless it's been vetted
and and we see it in the news, so or
we vetted ourselves. Now, we don't do a lot of
breaking news here, but we do some. Uh So anyway,

(18:50):
I am I am just complete big block joker. I
ain't seen you in a long time. Uh, I'm just myself.
It's just just disgusting dildo fraggings. I thought you're going
to change your name, bro, you said.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Uh, he said, it's a process, man, it's a process.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well you found the Lord though, api dil do to
the to God. And so he says, well, I guess
I should change my name last week. But you know
what he's he's probably slipped. He's backslid on us.

Speaker 7 (19:28):
It's a process, just like when you stop, like when
you stop drinking a lot of people, you don't stop
drinking cold turkey. Uh, you just you just you know,
if I do two bottles and might go down to
one bottle, you know the.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Process, Lulu. Only a complete coward shoots their enemy in
the back.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Uh you know, not really? Like I say, war as hell.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
And if you target targeted somebody for extinction, you're not
targeting them to give them a fair fight. You're trying
to take them out. That's that's what you're there for.
I'm there to take you out by any means necessary.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
You got to go.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
So when it comes to war, I mean, what's the difference.
You drop a bomb on a city of sleeping people.
That's cowardly too, But your purpose wasn't to grant them
any quarter. Your purpose was to take them out. You know,
during World War Two we bombed not in military bases,
we bombed cities and civilians and whole cities of people,

(20:27):
and we bombed parks and stuff like that, apartment buildings.
So war is about annihilation and that's what it comes
down to. Alleghana County is.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
In Pittsburgh area where all the war dogs jumped those fellas. Remember. Okay,
so it is in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
I wasn't sure whether it was in Pennsylvania or Virginia
because I think that county doesn't it cover both of
those areas, But I wasn't sure. So yeah, hardwire one
percenter appreciate that. It's definitely retaliation. Hardwire asystant Yankee Viking. Well,
that's what the streets are saying. The streets are saying that,

(21:07):
and the streets talk, and.

Speaker 6 (21:08):
So what happened.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Uh, hey, if you were here, no, I'm not even
going to do that.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
So man, if you're here, it.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Do I said, I wasn't going to do it because
I knew it would come right back at me.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
When you put one finger at somebody, you got three
pointing right back at yourself. So uh yeah, for those
of you just now tuning in, like Lavish, who looks
sleepy right now?

Speaker 6 (21:34):
The the I've been studying.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Man, Okay, so you're sleepy because you don't look like
an alert studier right now. Yeah, man, you know.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
I've been studying man, student lab notebook?

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Man?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Is that for when you do things to bodies? Is
that what?

Speaker 4 (21:49):
That is?

Speaker 2 (21:52):
What the mortician need to la.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
To study the anatomy of somebody?

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Microbiology man, you know, bacteria and stuff. Lock joker, No,
I didn't drop I didn't drop my bike. I did
get hit by a gown. Another bike ran into me
and fucked my leg up, broke my leg, fractured my leg. Yeah,
all those bike, all those things.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
So uh nobody answered to Harley Gwinnon's challenge. Uh, Brooklyn
is quiet. Nobody's gonna that's what that m M A fighter.
Quit playing. Thank you, logic, thanks for calling me out.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
I call you out.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
That was black drugon next.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
And you also got our boy of black eyes so
so so was.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
That a real black eye picture or AI?

Speaker 2 (22:47):
That was? What was?

Speaker 6 (22:49):
What was the story behind that? I've seen you, I've
seen it up but I didn't know if that was
like something that was real or not.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Well, I don't know that was a AI.

Speaker 7 (22:58):
I'm not even gonna bring it back up again. I
told black Dragon leave it alone.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
His wife lost two hundred over two hundred pounds, so
I innocently asked him, well, which version of heard do
you like best?

Speaker 7 (23:12):
And I said stop. I said, don't ask that question that.
I said, that's not even a question that.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Uh. And and he said his wife gave him a
black eye afterwards. No, literally, for real. I don't know
if it's true. Maybe it was a black guy he
got from from his time with the Hell's Angel or whatever.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
She heard she heard a black Dragon say that, and
she looked at him, like, you gotta say that, you gotta,
you gotta ask me that question.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
You got you asked me that question. That's your friend.
That's your friend.

Speaker 7 (23:41):
This is who you follow. Who's the other short guy
over there that said don't don't listen to him?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Don't? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Motorsports said, it's about twenty minutes southeast of Pittsburgh. I
was filming a motive blog on the other end of
town right when it happened. The whole incident took place
about five miles from my house. Wow, it's scary. Can
you imagine that somebody actually firing off uh an a
K forty seven tot somebody.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Man, Well, you know.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
If you say you don't know if it's retaliation or not.
But you have to have a certain mindset to take
your weapon and shoot somebody in the back.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
No you don't, Yes, you do.

Speaker 7 (24:26):
No, I don't have to have a certain average average
person is not going to average person is not going
to go get their gun and just go.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
And I'm gonna walk down the street and shoot something that's.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Not the average person. That's I got to attended target.
My goal is to end this guy's life.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Now, you have to have a certain mindset.

Speaker 5 (24:42):
And that's what I'm going to do. Where I catch him,
how I do it? It is not do it you
know what I'm not Tony Montanna. Let me make sure
he sees me. No, my goal is to x this
guy out, get my check.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And move on.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
And you have to have a certain When I when
I had, when I had when I when I was
when I was back in the streets and I wanted
to get someone because they walked down my street. If
I wanted you. I had to have that mindset that

(25:19):
I'm about to go break those legs with my black dragon.
That was a that was a mindset that was that's
old school though. But you know everybody got a hard
to get it back. I can tell you that that's
that's that's old school.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I had to be.

Speaker 7 (25:34):
I had to be talked off the ledge and my partner.
It's not too many people that could have done it
when I was going to burn this house, this guy's
house down, and and I was in a certain mindset
and they had to talk me down.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
An average person. I had to go everybody, but I
had to have that certain mindset to do it.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
And average you can't get an average like okay, martial arts,
black Dragon, just bring it down to it where you
know we're on this playing field and martial arts. You
can teach somebody to break somebody neck, break the arm,
break this, break this, break this, breakdice, but that person
has to be in a certain mindset to do that
because everybody can't handle hearing bones break. Everybody can't handle that.

(26:18):
I'm just saying, man, it's just coming from that's just
coming from a battle. That's coming from a battle perspective
when I broke. When I broke, When I broke the
guy's nose, it was a certain thing that I wanted
to break his nose.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
But on the average day, man, I don't want to
break Nobody knows. I mean, who's thinking like that.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
So to go to that next level of actually taking
somebody's life by shooting him in the back with whatever
type of gun it was shutting him down, you had
to be in a certain mindset to know that.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
I don't know if they start they I don't know
if they started out with all we're gonna shoot him
in the back, but they definitely that's what happened. And yeah,
the mindset was, we're gonna count this is this is
making Hardwire is no longer hardwire one percenter. I noticed
that hard wire X. I didn't notice the X one percenter.
I went from hardwire one percenter X one percenter very recently.

(27:11):
I apologize you aren't in the loop, Black Dragon. You
would know if you watched my show.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
I saw your show last night. I watched the video
I watched.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
I was on your page yesterday, Hali with the people
that was playing on the stoops, playing music on the stoops.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Yeah, he wasn't directing that and you it was directed
at me.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
But you know, I just want to say I was
on the page Black Dragon, wasn't on the paid I
was on the.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Gold start for you don't start preacher.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Anyway.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
So so I'm not disagreeing with what you and Lavish
is saying. I'm just I was just interjecting, like a
person has to be in a certain mindset to.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Just you know what, I'm gonna wake up this morning.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
You don't have to do it.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
I'm gonna go somewhere in the back.

Speaker 6 (28:02):
What you got, man, When that's what you got? Them hitters?

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Many where are you at ready already?

Speaker 6 (28:10):
Yeah? They already there. Man, you should see.

Speaker 4 (28:14):
You.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
I just tell people all the time. Listen, man, please
do not bother me.

Speaker 4 (28:19):
Man.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
See these guys be these guys be that's they.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
Thing many i'd be having today. Man, Calm down, relaxed.
It's not that serious about everything. They be ready they
be on go looking for it, looking for it, bro.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Right right right right, and look it's one of them things.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (28:44):
I was total long time ago, said logic, if you
ever need help, call me and I take a figurative.
You take a figuratively card. Say that's the They ain't
give me a business card. But you take that that
card and you put it a top shelf where you
can't reach it, because you know that once you pull
that and make that phone call, you can't go back.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
So those are those are people lavish.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Motorcycle clubs need to get rid of those guys.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
They don't have to be in the club.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
Well we're talking.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
About Montarle clubs. But most of you get rid of
those guys. And i'll tell you why. Uh and and
and this administration, this Trump administration, when they get rid
of when they when they when they get more of
their objectives accomplished, they they get the what they call
the immigration problem. They get that underhand. When they get

(29:36):
through with these cities. Uh, they're going to be looking
for some more bad guys. And if you can't see
the riding on the wall, motorcycle clubs, that bad guy
is going to be your asses. It's going to be y'all.
Y'all are going to be the ones, and they're going

(29:57):
to becoming for all the them. As for y'all, what
was that's a machine gun? Of Howarzer's what I got
to get a howards. But anyway, they they're going to
be coming for y'all. They're gonna be coming from motorcycles.
This administration is not going to do the lawlessness. It's
not And and so I would think anybody with common

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sense would know that the government that we have right now,
it is going to be gearing up to take on.
They're not going to have no minutemen running around. And
that's what motorcycle clubs are groups of minutemen that can
come together and band together.

Speaker 2 (30:35):
And uh, that's not this new world order.

Speaker 1 (30:37):
That's not where what you got to get smart and
get your head down and and and so clubs need
to stop all this gangster shooting.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Ship.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
All that's going to take is somebody in a press
conference and say, Wow, President Trump, what about the guys
that are shooting up the cities and they won't let
guys ride their motorcycles and the patch place and blah
blah blah.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
And he'd be like, say, what that's going on here?

Speaker 4 (31:02):
Ah?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
Hell no, he based off of his last interview I've said,
he might even say, well, they need to start checking
in because I can see a lot of violence.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
That's so they should be smart. I they know the rules.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
That's really nice.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Y'all better lead that man alone.

Speaker 6 (31:33):
I'm just saying, I don't think they like me very much.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You better leave that man alone. Bro.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
I'm telling these motorcycles, I keep telling y'all better kill
out brou But a lot of people are looking at
this as retaliation or whatever. We don't know whether that's
true or not, but that a lot of folks are
are thinking, and the police now are looking at that

(32:02):
that assault to see if if the two are connected.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
So I guess we'll hear more.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I say, motorcycle clubs, man, A lot of people are
being turned away by motorcycle clubs. A lot of people
are motorcycle clubs are losing members. I think I see
us dying out because if it ain't some drama like
what I was going through, if it ain't some kind
of drama, it's violence. It's violence to drama, drama to

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violence and then motorcycle wrecks.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
How many people have you buried? Uh?

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Here recently? You've buried what three or four people in
the last month? Uh lavish?

Speaker 5 (32:44):
I know for a fact too, No, in the last yeah,
a month and a half, three oh, four people from
my club.

Speaker 6 (32:54):
Yeah, they're outside of my club.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
It's almost like a funeral every other week, not every week,
but is not it's not from violence.

Speaker 6 (33:03):
It's not from motorcycle violence though.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
It's just yeah, but you know, either we're somebody or
you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Joker one sixteen's PFFP, Well we know Joker sixteen. He says,
no comment on the shooting. We wouldn't expect you to
have a comment about anything. One percenter. Those guys, they
just conveniently don't know anything. Trump is going to national

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guard every city in America. That's how Hitler and the
SS took power, says Big Block Joker. And they and
they got rid of all the militias that were out there.
So don't don't be considered no kind of militia. That's
what I'm saying. All right, So that's that story. Hold
on a second, guys, we need to get a quick

(33:55):
We need to have a quick public service announcement.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
Maybe you need to donate some freaking money, donate, donate,
Maybe you need to donate some freaking money.

Speaker 6 (34:05):
Maybe you need to donate.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Some do do donate.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
I like that that that public service announcements announcement is
so cool. Hey, we got a few minutes here.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
What do you guys? I wanted to talk a little
bit about loyalty.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
And disloyalty, and I wanted to ask you guys and
folks out there if you if you have a comment,
what do you think are some disloyal things that should
make you be thrown out of your club immediately?

Speaker 4 (34:56):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (34:57):
Man makes you go on throwing ounce the clue immediately?
Man telling club business to the other club members. I
mean I was sad clubs man right now? Your club members,
you know, stealing money from the club.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, it is stealing money from the club. Disloyalty, Yeah
you ain't.

Speaker 6 (35:20):
It ain't trustworthy.

Speaker 5 (35:21):
However it happens, and you know, they find out about it,
and you pay for it, you owe the club back
money and all this other crap. But yeah, I think man.
You know, for me, one of my biggest things is, Man,
throw this dude out the club and because he ain't
can't trust him, you know, he's telling secrets.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Uh So for you it's it's it's telling club business
more so than stealing.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
There's more trust, you know to trust, is you know
cand of you know, are you a trustworthy person.

Speaker 6 (35:52):
Can I trust you with my life and when I
save my life.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
I'm not even speaking on anything you know that has
to do with you know, criminal stuff, just trust Are
you in my best interest as a club member.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
So those are some of the big ones.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Stealing from the club, messing with somebody's wife, we've saw it,
stealing and snitching, okay, being a pedophile as.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well around me man that we don't hear a lot.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
But we did have one club where the national president
was a pedophile, and his members called in and said,
we don't give a damn, he's still going to be
our national president. We know the backstory, we know the backstory,
and we've accepted it. So that's not even always one.
The Black Sabbath tried to keep a pedophile in and

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they didn't get rid of him until everybody found out.
Once it made the news. Then now they want to
get rid of him. And he was quite hurt by
that because the national president was just fine with having
him around because he was voting on his side. But
after everybody found out and it made the news, now
all of a sudden, uh, the guy was persona non grata.

(37:04):
So joker one percenter sixteen said ratting, stealing, screwing the brothers,
old ladies, and telling club business. Those are the big ones.
But if you're a president, what other signs of disloyalty
would you look forward to get rid of a person.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Being a Really you're really disrespect like Levis said, But
let me say I can't trust you, but disrespecting the
I will say the hierarchy. So if you have a
member that doesn't respect your president, doesn't respect your your
vice president, doesn't respect none of the officers, and they
just doing their own thing, like anarchy within within the organization,

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that right there with if it's not checked and checked fast,
that will split your organization, split your club and everything.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
That person gotta go.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
Well, you're talking about me maybe ten years ago.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Maybe maybe maybe not even the whole ten years ago
I was. I was on like a four year run
with that.

Speaker 6 (38:20):
Same attitude of mentality.

Speaker 5 (38:22):
However, I knew, I knew my bylaws, and I knew
you know, I knew how far to go before I was.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
At that line where that line.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
I was at that line where I knew, okay, I
can push.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
It right there and get back off and back off.

Speaker 6 (38:41):
It's nothing they can do so.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And I was going to say that a lot of times.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Uh what what he what he said here being in
loose cannon doing things your own way, not the club's way.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
mL is so right about that.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
However, like Lavers said that those things are not specifically
in the bylaws, So being in loose cannon and blah
blah blah, but you can't find a charge to get
rid of those people because they'll they'll they'll hang right
in the.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
In the right right right there at that fine at
that fine line we're when the club think they got you,
you sitting back and you.

Speaker 6 (39:22):
Ain't got nothing, know me.

Speaker 3 (39:26):
I guess that's how you. I guess that's that. That
falls down to how.

Speaker 7 (39:30):
Your how well and how detailed your bylaws are. We actually,
even though we're a ministry, we actually had because I'm
a writer, I write so much and and stuff, we
actually had to cut back. They said, Okay, you got
too much detail in there. I said, I want to
cover everything. I said you should, and you should. You know,

(39:50):
you're more detailed the bylaws, I believe the better. But
most clubs do not have good, well written by laws
because they're not written by writers. I remember when my
club decided that they were going to rewrite the by
laws that I had spent about a decade writing, and
to this day they still haven't gotten the bylaws were written.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
To this day, Oh, we're just going to go back
to the nineteen seventy four by laws. Okay, go back
to nineteen seventy four. It's tough to sit down and
writelume voluminous bylaws.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
But the more we got more communication because now you
need bylaws.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
You even need bylaws for Internet protocol. We think of IP.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
In the IT world logic and I were in, but
IP for motorcycle clubs, there should be an Internet protocol.
How do you use the Internet, How do you use
social media? How do you use these platforms that should
even be part of your bylaws nowadays. So a lot
of these guys they get out of it by being
in the bylaws. But let me tell you something. If

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you're not able to get rid of disloyalty, the second
you see it, those disloyal people become poisonous snakes.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
That can destroy your home. Motorcycle club.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Big Block Joker said, I noticed that throwing around the
accusations that someone as a pedo is a political warfare,
feminist attack, and the masculinity a way to isolate and
damage a person.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
There's a whole lot of that goes on.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
People will use keywords and catchy phrases and things like
that to attack club members. Sometimes all you got to
do is put a charge on them, like you stole
from the club. It's such a targeted distraction. So part
of disloyalty, I think would be a reason to put

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somebody out of a club is if someone lied on
a club brother. That'd be a reason. But I'll tell
you a quick story about a guy in the club.
I want to tell you if you me this.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Isn't about to be a quick story.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
If you see disloyalty word click.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
If you see disloyalty as a leader and you don't
get rid of it, it could come back and haunt
you and bite you in the rear end. There was
a guy in my club who had a brother, and
his brother had a girl on the back of his
bike that was not his wife.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
They don't do do.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And so the the guy takes a video of this
woman on the back of his brother's bike and puts
it up on social media so that his brother's wife
could see it.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Now, his brother was in the club.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
He was in the club, and when he put that
video up, the guy's wife saw it as it was intended,
and there was an immediate warfare in his house. Now
the brother calls me and says, hey, man, you need
to put that guy out of the club right now.
But he hadn't told club business. There was no place

(43:23):
in the bylaws to get rid of him for doing that.
And it was a rotten, dirty, low down thing to do.
Should I have gotten rid of him for that disloyalty?
Well I didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
And several years later that disloyal son of a bitch
got rid of me. His name was right or die.
He did that to his own brother. So what do
we learn here? What's the teaching moment.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
It's kind of like going back to the laws of
forty you know, forty eight Laws of power, forty eight
powers of law whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
You can't think of the.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Name right now, man, you get something like laws of power.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
Forty eight Laws of power. Yeah, you gotta you gotta
destroy a problem right when it happens.

Speaker 5 (44:22):
You gotta eliminate it completely, eliminated, you know, And and
the more and the more I go on with life
because you'd be thinking that you're helping some people and
you really don't want to be, you know, that bad
of a person, and you want to give people a
fair chance. Those same people that you give a fair
chance to always seems in some type of way, it

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comes back and.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
It haunts you.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
And I've learned that just from life, from business, from friendships,
and at this point in my life, I don't need
a lot of friends. I have kids, I have a family,
and that's all I care about. I focus on any
everything else. I want to eliminate it, make it irrelevant, get.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Rid of it.

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And that's what we have to do.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
Man eliminated, destroy it, completely.

Speaker 2 (45:12):
Cut it.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Watch this. Stop putting band aids on the problems that
need sutures.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Mhmm, it's still gonna just gonna keep bleeding.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Okay, that's that's that's my comments. That's my comments. I
use that in life, I use that in it. T
stop putting band aids on them.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
That was my teaching moment for the day. And see
it was a short story. I'm done. We didn't have to.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
We didn't have the dramatic music that should.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Have went behind it.

Speaker 7 (45:47):
Dang man and I have some too Oh my god,
too late, too late, too late, I should too late, too.

Speaker 6 (45:54):
Late, nothing can stopped me.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
I can't play that stay that anyway. Yeah, that was
that was interesting.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Okay, uh So what I want to tell you guys
as leaders, I have a question I want to see
you guys as leaders, is it's hard being a leader
and you want to be fair. But as a leader,
you must toe the line. And the line you must
toe is the line of are the bylaws being followed,

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is the club being represented? Are we doing things the
right way? And whenever you see that disloyalty, that cancer,
that person that keeps talking about brothers behind their back,
that person that keeps making accusations, somebody said participation the
people that aren't participating. You got to cut the dead rate.
You got to go ahead and and and and counter losses,

(46:56):
let it go and move on and keep the organized
pruned and cold in order to keep it sharp, efficient
and moving in a forward direction.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
Yes, sir preacher, what is your question? Okay?

Speaker 7 (47:09):
Now I'm asking us out of respect, so I understand
you cannot as a guest in anybody's clubhouse, not just
omc's clubhouse. You can't just go in there and take
pictures of the clubhouse unless they say, oh yeah, it's
cool to take a picture here, take a picture there,
and blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
What I get at?

Speaker 7 (47:28):
And I asked a friend of mine, I said, well,
if I said, who cannot take a picture in your clubhouse?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
He said no one.

Speaker 7 (47:34):
I said, even you said no, we're not even allowed
to take pictures in the clubhouse and put them on Facebook.
I said, so, why see a lot of y'all are
with y'all pictures of youall clubhouse on social media and
they would say, we're not We're not supposed to do that.

Speaker 3 (47:50):
But it's not in the bylaws.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
Man.

Speaker 6 (47:54):
You know what, Man, I'm gonna speak on me.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
That's the one person you can speak on.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
When I go different clubs, I don't because of who
I am, with the type of pictures that I post
and I put on you know, with my following of
a platform. I don't go in clubs just taking pictures
because I really just don't know what the heck I
might be taking pictures up unless they know or they
want me there and they know I'm taking pictures. And

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most of the time you get some clubs. That's ask me, man,
where your camera at? But you know, they don't even
realize out of respect, I just don't walk in there, right,
you know, because when I did, you know, when I
did come into this bike world stuff, many many years ago,
at the tender age of innocent nineteen, you couldn't even

(48:43):
have cell phones in the club. Let's loan, you know,
taking pictures of stuff.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
They didn't have cell phones when you were nineteen.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the breadthphones.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
No, no, I had the This was around the era
where they the Sprint PCs phones was just coming out.

Speaker 6 (49:05):
No, right, right not.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
It was ninety nine.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
Let me just say whatever. The phones was that in
ninety nine. And as time as time went along.

Speaker 5 (49:19):
And clubs started letting people because when they started other
people start coming in with phones.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
One you had to have colors on it even have
a phone. Then when people.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Started coming in and they started to get relaxed, people
just they just randly pop out their phones and it's
not even a big deal anymore.

Speaker 6 (49:39):
It's not even a big deal.

Speaker 5 (49:40):
It's like, hey, me and my girls, me and my boys,
me and the homies were taking pictures.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Hold on, so I don't know if that's the thing
that's kind of been lost. You know, even in clubs
that you see posted. I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (49:52):
Say clubs names or anything, but I've seen clubs where
they state no pictures, no videos, no live streaming, no none.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Of and they do it.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
Everybody's doing it, and they do it everybody's doing.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
That's what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Yeah, So for me, most of the time, when clubs
invite me over, it is to either cover them or
they want me to mention them, even the one percent clubs.
Uh So when I when I go and I have
my cameras or my phone, I just going on ahead
up to the sergeant and arms of the one percent

(50:27):
club and say, okay, where can I not take pictures?
Can I am I allowed to take pictures? And nowadays
they'll tell you, okay that that area over there is
a picture friendly area. That's a picture friendly area. Don't
take pictures of the backs of any brothers.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
You know, I'll tell you what to do.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
They have it all lined out. And so when one
of them comes up to me looking retarded and crazy
as hell, I'd be like, hey, go talk to your
sergeant of arms. Another one that happens to me when
I'm out is the one percentage will come up to
me dragging, I see you got that camera out, bro,
don't be shooting our brothers. Uh and okay, I got
you man. So they'll they'll normally tell me, but then

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the other guys just come and they circle me, surround
me and put their arms around me. They want to
be in the picture. So it's it's it's it's transferred.

Speaker 7 (51:17):
I have pictures I have and you know, talking about MCS,
I have pictures of own me with differs, and they'll
tell me, they say, now, logic, now you know you
can't because they know I post. You know you can't
post that. I said, no, this is going to go
in my private collection at the house. There's pictures that
people never see unless you come to my house. And

(51:37):
that's if I put it in the frame.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
You know.

Speaker 7 (51:41):
So I've been sting told the same thing, Black Dragon, like, okay,
all right, Lodd, you can take this picture, but you
know we better not see it now.

Speaker 2 (51:50):
I haven't.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
I haven't been I haven't been told that yet.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
You haven't.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
No, only because most of the time when I go somewhere,
they know that I'm coming so it kind of it
is a good feeling because their whole club, even though
I don't even know who everybody is, they know why
am oh that's lavish. Oh he's here, he's doing this
blah blah blah, and the coarateerie and the fellowship is great.

(52:19):
Now on the flip side, when I go out and
I'm just doing you know, whatever random stuff wherever I'm at,
Myrtle Beach, Kings of the South, whatever bike event that
I'm at, next level event, I tell people all the time, listen,
if you are not what the person you're supposed to
be with, stay out of the view of my camera.

(52:42):
Because see what, because what happens you get these people?
You know, hey man, can you take this video down?
No how much time I spent editing this video, man,
hey man, stay out so and I said it on video,
you know, numerous the times. Listen, don't be in the
way of my camera if you see me. But then
I'll get some people. They'll see me and they'll want

(53:02):
to be on the camera. But they don't want to
be on the camera. They want me to wait until
they distance themselves and then they'll right then they'll be like,
oh yeah, now, I'm good men and women, So what
I do?

Speaker 6 (53:18):
Yeah, men and women, you know they'll walk up to me.

Speaker 5 (53:20):
They won't.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
They might not. They won't be all lowed about it.
They'll be like, hey, oh.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Don't over here.

Speaker 5 (53:28):
Yeah, yeah, that video you know you don't, Hey, don't
post me because uh, you know so and so and so,
and I'd be like, you know, a mental note, all right,
cool and out of such so much stuff going on
behind the scenes of people business that you don't even
know what's going on.

Speaker 6 (53:45):
Whenever I see somebody, like a guy riding somebody, I
don't even know, I'm paying away.

Speaker 5 (53:53):
Just because I don't even know what might be going on,
you know. And sometimes you doing a thing, you not
even seeing it because I had a guy.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Then tell me, man, I've seen the video. Man, you
had me, man, and it was two years old.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
He just finally came across it. But then you got
you got these FBI women out here. Man, oh man,
they Yeah. I seen his bike and I knew it
was a girl on the back because when the video
was shot, I seen his bike and if you look
on the ground you could see the shadow. Show Listen, man,
I'm trying to tell you I didn't heard it all man.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
That yes, wow, you know what I'm saying. Hey, Gary
from New York is joking, But bro, this is the truth.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (54:44):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (54:45):
They only had rotary phones. I was around.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I saw the first push button phone stop playing when
I when I was a kid.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
Do you even know what a rotary phone is? Lavish?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Yeah, you might.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
I had We had one in our house. You know,
I'm a grandparents child. I hate that thing. You missed
one number, you gotta start all over.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Yeah, okay, it was no.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
There was no speed dials back then.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
There was no speed very joking. I remember we had
one of We had one.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Of these in my grandparents house. This was the late eighties,
early nineties. They had the regular phones at that particular time.

Speaker 2 (55:31):
Man, Oh my goodness, it's the truth. Man.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
I was around for the first cell phone. I was
around for payphones. I saw payphones disappear. I was around
for the first pagers. I was around for the first computers,
the eighty eighty six, before that, before the eighty eighty six,
the Tandy, I saw the first desktop computers.

Speaker 6 (55:58):
I'm old, bro, man, I remember the payphones.

Speaker 4 (56:01):
Man.

Speaker 6 (56:02):
We used to have our certain payphones that we knew.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
Give you a quarterback yep, we'll be like, no, you
got to use that payphone because it gives you the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Calling cards. You just have a calling card.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
Yeah, you used to scratch that thing go off. That's
how I used to make.

Speaker 3 (56:20):
I am not as old as these gentlemen.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
I have no idea when I came around, when when
the first BlackBerry came around.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
That's how young I am.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
I dig it.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
That was still twenty five years ago.

Speaker 6 (56:37):
Yeah, that's like two thousand and three.

Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah, problem, let's go.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Problem to be that young.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
I was looking at that thing like, man, look at
all these buttons on there.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Yeah, that was before you type on that thing. That
is before you swipe. Now you know one thing with
you know one thing with the rotary phone. You know,
you know what you couldn't do. What you couldn't when
you died. You couldn't force it back because it'll mess
up because I.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Never I was in a hurry the dollar number, and
I'll never try to. I never tried to force it.
I just let it go.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
And being this thing.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
It used to hurt your fingers too.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
If you was one of those people that be on
the phone a lot, always having to spin it didn't
hit the little metal piece right there.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
Yeah, when Wooten phones came out, I was like, oh
my gosh, no more road, no more doing this, I say.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
But here's the deal.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
They still used the same sound effect pattern to make them,
to make the numbers, to actually make the numbers happen.
It's still the same as it was way back then.
Even on the on the phones today you just don't
hear it. But they're still used the same technology, just
a different you get to it a different way. Callie

(57:48):
Kit said, I was around for the first Bible. Payphones
weren't dying back in the day too. Yeah, they got expensive.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
That name fifteen twenty five cents.

Speaker 6 (57:58):
It was a quarter for me and didn't went up
to thirty five since.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
I was around. You can number and do it for me.

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Learn that one.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
Call me, call me if you need someone to talk to.
And when they say here's my number in the dime,
you don't remember.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
That Black Dragons my number in a dime. You can
call me any times. That prince, No, that was some
girls saying that.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Girls.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
It just sounded like some princes or at the time.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
They were around during the Prince time they might even
mess with That was some girls. That's saying satisfaction guarantee.
Call me if you need someone to talk to me.
SSW says nope, you cannot force it back.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
It has weights and do.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
That was Blondie to Pulse Style. So that's what it's
called Pulse styling. Lulu Me Too, Black Dragon. No one
had sales and everyone had a pager. No social media
to worry about. Uh, when you broke down on the highway,
you either walk to the next exit or hopefully a
call box on the highway. And the people had call

(59:01):
boxes was California.

Speaker 6 (59:03):
Hey, you know what we used to do.

Speaker 7 (59:04):
Man, listen, let me tell you this because I have
got way off topic, guys, I know, but I got
to share.

Speaker 6 (59:10):
This man about because we're talking about phones.

Speaker 5 (59:12):
Man. You know, I was around all the older guys, right,
older guys, and they used to always teach me.

Speaker 6 (59:18):
A lot of bad habits.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Right.

Speaker 6 (59:19):
So we had this phone. It was a phone you
get it from the phone company.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
Man.

Speaker 6 (59:26):
This guy he had this phone. It was like this
big and it had the clips on there. Yeah, and
we used to go to the phone box.

Speaker 5 (59:34):
We used to We used to go to other people's
phone boxes, eaves drop on their conversation.

Speaker 6 (59:41):
We can make. That's how we used to make our calls.
We used to call when we had our pagers. We
used to go and we'll make calls.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Box, that's set up.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Why would you need to get a pager call and
then go put a phone on two. We didn't have
cell phones, you get Why do you need to make
a call all of a sudden, he was doing something, man.

Speaker 5 (01:00:06):
Listen, Man, I was trying to get the girls at
that particular time. Man, we were trying to meet up
with the girls. Man, trying to meet up with the girls.
Where are you at? And calling them back? I have
my own phone line. You know, a lot of a
lot of the chicks, they had their own phone lines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
I think he was in the business. That's what I'm thinking.
He was in the business. He was in the business. Bro.
Nobody I hear you. I ain't calling no girls like that. Man,
you got to page your call. You needed to make
a call right back.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Listen, man, All I can say is we had the
phone and we used to plug up the other people
boxes and make phone calls, especially late at night.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
Be on side of somebody house, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
Right talking this because it wasn't no cameras and ring doorbells.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
And late at night. Who's out one of those kind
of people? That was out? Man oh man, Yeah, that
was it. It was orange, Yep, it was it was.
It was a big It was a big orange. It
was a big orange.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
I think it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
I think one side was yellow or some crap like that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
It was like this big man call me with sky Scott.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
Yeah, yeah, he was right, because I look, Blondie did
a song like that too, I mean did a song
titled that. That's the first one that popped up when
I look, and then I did I put some other
words in there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Right came up. Hey, Emil says the way you block
somebody was you left the phone off, the receiver off
the phone, and.

Speaker 7 (01:01:36):
Then you wait for that beating to stop. Yeah, wait
for that to stop. That stopped after a while.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Dirtie d Detroit Pager, Lavish equal Steeler. See man, I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Look.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Hey, hey, okay, let me count. Can I do storytime?

Speaker 8 (01:01:57):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:01:58):
Let me stay, Let me do story time. Levis you
wasn't in the military, so you can get with this,
but you probably won't understand. So and when I was
in still in the military. That's when the brick phones
came out.

Speaker 3 (01:02:10):
I had. That's when I met my wife. I had
a bag.

Speaker 7 (01:02:12):
Phone that had two phone numbers on it, but I
lived one from for Texas, one for New Mexico. I'm
living in New Mexico. My frog wanted my friend wanted
a phone. I had the brick phone, so I gave
him my brick phone. Now, my friend's sister lived in Mississippi. No,
she lived in No was it? She lived in Detroit.

(01:02:33):
His family was from Mississippi, and his mom and them
was from New York. So he's making these phone calls. Now,
you know, back in the day, back then they had
roaming charges. Yes, I get a phone call in my shop.
These are the phone calls you don't want to have
at your job, lavish. I get a phone call from
the West Side and said, Sartaint Tournament need you to

(01:02:57):
come see us before Well we need we need to
find out if you are a drug dealer.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
This is on the phone. I'm like, I hung the phone,
told my sorry. I went down to the office. They
said they had my records.

Speaker 7 (01:03:11):
They said, we see that you have two phones, three
phone numbers and one phone is calling areas where.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
There's high trafficking drugs.

Speaker 7 (01:03:23):
It's made out of New Mexico, calling Detroit, New York
and Mississippi.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
And your phone bill is thirty five hundred dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:03:33):
May you had a thirty five phone bill.

Speaker 7 (01:03:35):
My my friend had a thirty five, but it's in
my name, so yes, he said, then you got a
second phone.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
That's dollars. Damn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
That was a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
Yes, I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Figure out.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
I had to figure out how first to explain to them, no, sir,
I'm not a drug dealer sitting in the United States
Air Force. And then get on my friend like, hey man,
you can't be making those phone calls like that, cause
those Roman charges. They watched that, and that was back
in ninety, yeah, ninety.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
One, in ninety they really were watching.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
They were watching.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
They were watching these phone calls because this break because
drug dealers was, Hey, we got these cell phones. We
don't got to go to the payphones anymore, get a
get a page. They find the nearest payphone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Bug the cell phone. Like Black Sabbath, we owned our
own cell phone. It was right outside the clubhouse and
people all over the neighborhood would come talk on it.
They would bug the damn they would bug certain cell phones. Okay,
we're gonna bug the cell phone to listen to whatever's
going down on it. So uh yeah, there the payphone.
So the cell phones took all that away.

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Yeah, yeah, I got I got called at that.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
But that's the most terrifying thing for somebody to call
you at your job on base and ask you are
you a drug dealer?

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
And it's coming from the oside.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Yeah, job b.

Speaker 7 (01:04:54):
You don't want that on a phone call BROD for well,
is a special investigation that's like the FBI of the military.
The Army, each branch got their own special.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Their own ours was called c C. Yeah, I believe
in C I S and CIS. I believe Naval Investigator
n I.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
They made them. They made a whole sitcom of y'all
of y'all's police thing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:20):
But your in C I C and c I S
oh I was special investigations in the United States their force.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
All right, guys, I think we've talked about a lot
of stuff today. Over we're right at an hour.

Speaker 6 (01:05:35):
All right, Well, I'm about to get out of here.
I have to continue to study for my exam this afternoon.

Speaker 7 (01:05:45):
Yeah, so we wrote letters, no phone calls, logical part
of New Medican. I was in close New Mexico Cannon
Air Force Base.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
I know the area.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
Mm hmm A right, young man, All right, y'all be easy, man,
y'all take care. I'm getting out of here. I got
right up under.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
I got twenty days to election time, man, twenty days
to election right.

Speaker 6 (01:06:12):
Yeah, we're gonna narrow it down.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
I wanna get back out here as soon as I
get some help to finish going door to door, boots
to the ground. And I got a test today, man,
I'm gonna be out here studying for this microbiology lab exam,
which is not easy at all.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
A lot of gram staining, negative staining, simple staining.

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
Look at that somebody else had three thousand dollars bill.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:35):
So I want to catch you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
All right, take care. Oh, it's all right. Let's get
you your stuff wrong, gotcha?

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
What's up? What's up?

Speaker 6 (01:06:53):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
Everyone next to your boy? Logic over here and keep
it logical.

Speaker 6 (01:06:57):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
I like to thank all those that are on this
on this stream that went over and.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
Like tagged and did all that and followed me on
my YouTube page, on my TikTok page, love you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Lessons on you.

Speaker 7 (01:07:11):
When you're riding on your twobs, make sure your bike
is all well and checked out and everything, no oil
leaks or any of that. If you on threes, do
the same. If you're in your car, do the same.
But remember these words when you were out there. Ride hard,
ride safe, and always always ride on faith and keep
it logical.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
Peace, peace, Sames boy Black Dragon, appreciate you guys. Thank
you so much for tuning in.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
We'll catch you guys tomorrow, same batchannel, same bat day.
We're going to be interviewing a young racer from South
Africa who is trying to race over in Spain. Man,
So it's going to be a very exciting day. And
to see the whole South African riders and the stuff

(01:07:58):
they're doing, it's gonna be interesting, all right, Catch you
guys tomorrow. Hey, thanks for tuning in. Be good to someone.
I'm stuck at like three hundred and I make three
hundred and six pounds yesterday and then boom back up
to three ten, like, so we're stuck between three ten
and three h six. But we're working on it, man,
trying to get below a three hundred man, so Hey,

(01:08:20):
thanks for tuning in and it's skinny.

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