C-WALK KINGS: OT GENASIS (FULL INTERVIEW)

DUB C and CJ MAC sit down with OT GENASIS to discuss West Coast Rap Culture, First Time Deals, Performing across the Globe, and of course the power of the C-WALK.

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the Dove Seeing CJ MaxShow. I am CJ Mack. Last
time I checked, I was stilldone, Yes, sir, and we're
back with another back episode of TheDove ce CJ Max Show. What's up?
Bro? Bro? Feel good?Man, feel real good, real
good. You're about to get upout of here on me again? Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yea. I'mgetting up out of here. But
it ain't gonna be down like I'mback. What I'm saying, I can't

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go this time. Either. You'rescared of fly Bro. You not,
Bro, I'm not scared of flyBro. I'm afraid of what the pilot
might have done the morning before theflights, our person of the Yeah,
Bro, you know what I'm saying. You know, you know somebody told
me one time, if the transmissiongo out of your car, Bro,
you can just pull over. Transmissiongo out of the plane. Bro.

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You know what I mean? It'sanother you know what plane? Plane rids
with Chang Chang chain. Oh youmean getting money? When anything for the
money. I don't do anything forthe money. But I'm jumping on the
flight no matter, Chuck something firstclass We are baby anyway, though,
Man, what's up? Man?You're good. I'm good, bro,
Bro, just been grinding, mandoing I gotta do man, keep it

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things together man, and uh youknow, yeah it is you know what
I mean? Brother, Well,you know, stay active, man,
dude, I gotta do. Youknow, it's always good to be around
family. And when I say family, not just you know, not just
my parents of my generation, butalso too the young. And you know,
we do got love for the newgeneration for those who think that,
you know, we just old haters, just old haters now, you know,

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we just we just love seeing thereal and originality, which brings us
to our next guest we have.Who is it, oh mother teacher?
Yes, sir man, I'm good. Family good. We've been talking about
having you on here for the longest, bro, Like for real, Man,

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we watch your career, we saluteyou. Uh, you're a beast,
bro. You know what I mean, You're a beast. Man.
So we're gonna start off, man, asking some question everybody else want to
know we already know. So wherewas you raised? Man? Where you
come from? Man? From LongBeach? I'm from the North Side,
LBC in LBC, LBC. Yeah, yeah, sir, talent man.
So once you tell us the differencebetween for those who don't know, the

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north side and the east side.Oh okay, so the north side along
Beach, it's like I would say, like, well, obviously be different,
but it's like we over there kindof like what we Jordan High School
is all. That's all okay,you know what I mean east side.
You know what I mean over there. You know what I mean. Were

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on the north, they on theeast. So it's like, you know,
we got our own we got ourown little set up over there.
They got they set up over there. But you know, it's all love
you. So when I when Ifirst heard you man your music, I
did not think you were from theWest Coast period. Yeah, yeah right,
I love it. I love whatyou came with and how you came
with it and the topic you knowwhat I'm saying. But I didn't have

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I had no idea that you fromLA And He'll tell you, Manute,
I've been preaching for a long timethat we need to change, like we
can't keep on recreating uh n wA over and over and over and over,
or DUBC over and over, icecube over right. So when you
came with that, I was like, well that's dope. Then when I
found out you was from here,I was like, oh yeah, so
I didn't come about how the stylecome up so different? The style came

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up because I was like, Iwas always out of town, and uh
there you goes, I was alwaysout of town and and so you know,
you meet you know, you meetdifferent people, you know what I
mean, different legos, different whatever, you know what I mean, whatever,
But my hustle stayed the same,you know what I mean. And

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it's me like coming from the streetsthat always stayed the same. But you
know, everybody was like everybody wasshocked by it because they're like when I
came up, I was coming upand I was like writing songs and everything,
and it was some DJ they tellingO d Y It's like na O
t if O t want to beaccepted on the West. He got to
you gotta make some West Coast music, you know what I mean. And

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I'm like, and they on melike that, you know. So,
uh so when I did dropped therecord you know what I mean, like
Cocoa, and they took off.Yeah, I'm in love with the Coco
dropped that. When it took off, everybody thought I was from New York,

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Miami, New York, and Miamithe most. It was New York
in Miami and and I think Texas. Everybody thought and then they thought that
I was that I was Haitian,you know what I mean. But I'm
beleiving though, but but they thoughtthat I was Haitian, mostly because all
the zo's is in Miami, sothey like, Okay, who is this

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dude from, you know what Imean? And so it was that mystique.
And I'm like, I'm not sayingnothing, you know what I'm saying,
because yeah, I'm not seeing nothingbubbling. I'm bubbling right now.
No, I'm not saying nothing.It wasn't until I dropped cut it and
then I dropped the video like allthese blue rags and stuff. Figure out

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what's going on? So let mebe okay, so let me so,
let me be honest with you.Right. So when you when you came
out at first like that, andI didn't. I didn't know that,
and I didn't really see the visuals. The record was stronger than the visual
Yeah, yeah, I I didn'tsee the visuals. So when I saw
that and then I saw that thel A coming out, I was like,

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why is he doing this? Why? Why is he doing this?
You know what I mean? Likehe is the man bro like he's on
some levels. C J used tohave conversations about when you came out and
you know, letting them be knownthat you was from Long Beach. We
started saying, Damn, he gotthis audience over here, he got a
broader audience in just the hood,like damn, Like you know what I'm

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saying. Do you think that ifhe continued to take this route that he's
doing right now, he'll be biggerthan where he's at right now? We
be going back and forth. Butme knowing that that's always been you.
Yeah, you know, it feltgood to see you doing you you know.
But Phinish telling us a story allabout the record was bubbling you just
saying nothing video drop so and soso it's bubbling. I ain't say nothing

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to video drop. Everybody like likethey're trying to figure it. They're trying
to figure it out, like whatyou know? So then and then only
it was funny too because I didthe video with your dog, you know,
recipes your dog, and then inthe verse she was like la with
that boy o T and everybody likewhat is going on. They're not figuring

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it out. They trying to figureit out. So so then when I
when I knew and anyone like doubleplatting him out the gate, I know,
I'm like solidified. So with allthem DJs and everybody like yo,
I'm like from the city. Myinterviews, they're like, what too late?

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It's too late, you know whatI'm saying. And so that I
think that that was the part thatwas dope. I was playing possible the
whole time. I love it becauseyou know, I understand certain people's perspective
and and how they think about thingsor how they look at life and whatever
that may be, you know whatI mean. So if I get to
play with that a little bit,like oh, this is gonna have to
be quiet for you to accept me, all right, cool? I love

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it, you know what. Ilove it because you had me and the
blender. I ain't gonna lie everyAnd then when I found out now you
know he's from out here, andI said, okay, well it makes
sense then, you know what Imean? At first I was like,
watch, but that's upe and eveneven fashion wise, you know what I
mean, Like, man, Ididn't check out your your swag Man play.
We called the fly Hood Fly.Yeah, he played with it.

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You know what I mean? Youknow what I mean. It's crazy because
when he got it and he sawthe set, You're like, damn,
big bro, wish I forgot Iwas because they see me in my house
should And I'm like, no,I want you to. I want them
to see that side that we knowexisted. You know, we know it's
a lot of things that they mightnot be up on. We're gonna get
to it though, but getting puton. I'm talking about faul wats in

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the Rap Gang? How did youget on? In the Rap Gang?
I had this song called uh Touchdown. At the time, I was running
around the city running ound La Hollywood. I was doing like showed up,
always performing and wh sop swoops.Are you in the school chip right?

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Nope, I don't tell us story. I don't tell us, so we
let you down. I had asong called Touchdown. This one dude met
me. He was I think hewas Jamaican. He was like, yo,
bro, you gotta deal with him. Like I ain't got to deal
with nobody. So he was likehe was like, all I want you
to meet somebody cool to my member. And then at the time he wanted

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to meet the doe who was mywho became my manager. I think,
you know after and so like,y all want to meet meet this guy
named Dino. Dino da YadA YadA, and like got cool. So so
we meet. Then we talk aboutmanagement and then but I'm like, I
don't know what you did, butI I but back then he had he

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had signed cash money. He GESIcash money gave him that that big get.
He had syncatch money, and hewas trying to sign fifty uh at
Universal, but they said fifty wastoo hood. He had all everything you
know, to me riding around allso then so then he went to in
the scope. So then you wentto so then he went too and they

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missed out. So they missed outand they missed out. So one day
I get up. It's makes melike a couple of weeks after after me
and Dino Chapel, it's like acouple of weeks ago. By helping my
home meet, he got a move. Were in the city. We actually
right across street from Jordan. Hegotta move. I'm like, I'm gonna
go help you move, you know, I mean to go pick up the
refrigerators and all that. So Igo do that my phone ringing. I'm

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not answering my phone, but Imean, like this has been going on
for like the whole hour. Myphone is like hold on, going up.
And then so I picked up thephone and they're like, you know,
like yo u yo, fifty tryingto get in contact with you,
Like what by you at refrigerators allthat? I'm like, what you what

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you're talking about? Speaker outside He'slike he's trying to get trying to get
in contact with you. He's I'mgonna call you back. I was like,
all right, me not putting twotogether. I guess you know,
Biddy still had love for for youknow, trying to try to get you
some money, right, you knowwhat I'm saying, trying to get you
on. So I guess his assistant, well, his assistant got on the

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phone at the time like yo's seehow you're doing. Yo. It's this
guy. You know, he's reallyinterested. You know his name is,
his name is fifty cent. Holdon? And then he was like yo,
what up? And I'm like neverthis is going on outside, it's
all time, like bro, holdon, hold right right? You know
what I mean stopped the moving truck. And so I'm chopping it up on
the phone with him for like anhour, and he like, no,

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I'm gonna get you. I'm gonnaget your deal, but I'm gonna get
you a single deal. Don't goaround your hood telling anybody you rich.
You and I just all laughing,and he like, I'm gonna come out
to l A. I'm gonna cometo Santa Monic. I'm gonna have a
mixture meeting. I guess he hada mixing me probably probably want I think
right at the time. And hewas like, yeah, you just come

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to the meeting. I was like, all right, cool. So I
medt him at the meeting and thenwe locked in. And this is the
time when he was like, weused to go to Vegas a lot because
he was That's when him and Floydwas like real tight. So it was
in Vegas and then doing shows andMountain Dew shows and knock and running all
over the place. But I neverunderstood what a single deal meant. You

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know, you know, I ain'tgot no I'm like, I'm in my
own or am I not? Youknow what I'm saying. So and if
you don't know who that is.For people that was watching, it's like
he's signing you the one song youknow, that's a single, you know,
and I'm like, okay, coolsong, come out. It did,

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Okay, it did, it didalright. But he was like,
damn, I didn't know. Hedidn't know that. He was reservicing it
in a way because he was alreadyyou know, Bubble was just in the
streets, so he was reservicing it. Okay. Cool, So we running
around. I finally understand what thatreally is, and I'm like, all
right, so I go back towork. So that's so that deal is
up, you know. But me, me and him is still cool.

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But that deal is up. Sothat's that. That's two thousand eleven,
and then it's twelve, and thenthirteen. I'm yeah, the bottom of
twenty thirteen, I'm in the clubperforming on a whole another song and that's

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what I mean, buster, Andthen Busser is like, yo, where
you signed to because the club isgoing crazy when I'm doing it, doing
the break, they going crazy.And I did it like seven times.
I used to wait till like Iknew it was popping. I used to
wait till like it's the most packednight and it's something going on in the
city, maybe a BT weekend.You know, I go on there and

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everybody going crazy, the whole city. And so you know, you about
to tell you, like who wasyou? You know what I mean.
So it was one of those,and so what song was it? It
was a a what song was that? Oh my bad, my bad,
my bad? This is touchdown.The other one was Jackie tan with with

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fifty Okay, this is yeah,but this is the one was touchdown.
This the one I was going with. This the one and so and so
oh now we meet. We goto the studio, like, yo,
meet me at the studio. I'mlike, all right, cool. So
we chopped it up and he waslike, y'all, he's gonna get a
deal at you want to get adeal at Atlantic, but he wanted to

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get a label deal also, soit's like I'm the person that used to
get his label deal. We gothere like all right, we like a
song they do that, give mea remixed fresh one time and everything cool.
And then it was like, okay, it was kind of like the
same thing, like the same effect, like the song was already already,

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you know what I mean. It'slike already, be already, brother.
So it's kind of like we can'treally get so it's like we resurfacing this
one. So they give me somemoney. Alright, cool, Now they
give me some money. The topof it's like January, right, Yo,
I'm spending this money. I'm spendingthis money. I think I'm the

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man. You hear me, Inever forget. One of my boys was
like, we was in the cluband I'm like, man, give me
that don p give me give methree of them down Peas the club over
at two o'clock. I'm ordering thatone forty, he said. Bro,
it ain't no reason for you toget these bottles. I said, is
you drinking or not? He said, come on, we're doing it.
I said, come on, SoI'm ordering. I'm wild. So it's

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far from January all the way toI will say August. Right, and
now I get a word from theA and R. He's like, I
don't know the verbose he used,but I was telling my man, what
does it? What does he meanby that? He was like, they're
basically saying they're gonna drop you.They're basically saying they're gonna drop you.

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In December, you know what I'msaying, they'll drop you in December,
Like you ain't me puttingut no musicor nothing. Damn, all right,
I gotta go put out some music. I gotta put I was just so
happy, guy, I never hadnothing to me like they coming like,
yeah, I'm I've been hustoming,but I ain't been there. Ain't just

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yeah you know something at you yeah, legally like yeah, I ain't looking
on my shoulder. So so allright, I gotta go record. So
I go to the studio. Idon't, I don't, I don't record
nothing. I go the next day, I go to the club. After
I go to the club, Icome back from the club, I go
straight to the studio. I goto the studio. I pass out.

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I wake up. It's my homiestudio. So I wake up. I'm
like, damn, I just startedputting be so I just start. Man,
I'm doing it, but I'm inthere by myself. I'm just pulling
up thething in there by myself.So now it's like, I don't woke

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up from the club, ain't brushingmy teeth nothing. I'm sitting there and
I'm like it's maybe like one inthe afternoon and I'm just in there.
I turned it up loud and I'mlike, all right, I put the
I had a BlackBerry at the time, so I'll put it in my voice
note so I don't remember. Iremember everything, you know what I mean.
And I'm like, I just rememberthe cadence to everything. So I'm
like, all right, cool.So now I know how I am like,

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I'm gonna record this, but I'mgonna record it. I'm gonna record
this tomorrow when I'm just you knowwhat I mean, I'm kind of sleepy,
but I knew everything I want here, so cool, I go,
I go record it. I'm like, oh, this is hard. So
my brother like, oh yeah,this is this is hard. This is
hard. So were in there.Then we in there with the dude Atlanta

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use use let us use us usethe Atlantic Studio. So we in there
with Charlie Proof, the dude that'sit's been a yeah. He's like,
yo, this is hard, youknow what I mean? Yeah, So
I'm like cool. So then Igive the label a chance. They like,

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yo, we want to put outthis song with some song that they
wanted to put out that I recorded. I ain't like it like that.
I was like. I was like, yeah, I like it, but
I don't feel like it's stronger,you know. And I'm like, we
go shoot the video. They shoot. We go to go shoot the video,
big old video. I'm like,oh, I'm on, you know
what I mean, I ain't neverseen this, Like, I'm on,

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So the video come out. Iain't like the video. I was like,
no, what happened in and Istart that's that's that's when I started
understanding I'm the creative part as faras editor, you know, and they
director sent it to the editor todo whatever. But he wasn't there in
those moments where you like, youknow, you shoot the video, like
oh that's gonna be hard. Ohthat all those parts wasn't in it.

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Nothing was. I'm like, Ihate it. Yo. Bustle was so
mad. He was like, youhated what you want us to doe?
They spent all this money, Isaid. He said, you got another
song you want to do? I'mlike, yeah, I got no song.
Guy. He's like he's like,what is it. I'm like,
I'm gonna let you hear it.Go we go shoot the video for free

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Go Boom, go over to theprojects Boom shoot it go go in two
weeks from when I dropped that song. Two weeks mind you, it ain't
service nothing, not nothing. Mymy manager at the time telling me,
you sure you want to drop thistwo weeks. I promise you my life
changing two weeks that song went boom, just took off everywhere everywhere. Wow.

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As soon as I like, letthe video go, it was everywhere.
We're gonna, we're gonna, we'regonna, we're gonna stop you right
here, and we're gonna go toa break so we can come back,
go pay some bills. But checkthis out before we leave. All the
upper cooming artists out there and eventhe je's in the game. Remember your
guts he had from day one.He knew that this was what he wanted

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to put out. Or We'll beback c c J Max Show with O
T. Jenesis Come in Love withthe Go. Yeah yeah, welcome back
to the de c c J MacShow. Y'all know I'm still dumb c
The last time I checked, Iwas still c J Mack. Yeah yeah,
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the button in the button, clickclick. We're still here with o TM
genesis man. We learned a wholelot about his career, man, about
him as an individual man, anduh, I like him more than I
did. Yesterday. Sot was tellingus that you came out the record in
two weeks, your life changed.Yeah. Yeah, I was that it

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was crazy because I, uh,my first show was in New York,
right, so so this was andI think and I think that's another reason
too why I thought it was aNew York because I was when I had
I had a line like around it. I only had one song line Butterflies.
You heard all the rumors about NewYork, you know, I don't

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like that's out there. When Iget to the get out of the car,
all was oh t O t Ot O t yo ya. I
was like, I'm looking like thisand it ain't even sinking in. I'm
just like, is this really happening? You know? Is this really happening?

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And so I couldn't even tell youI was excited. I was just
curious because I'm like, like,this is just crazy, you know.
So so when I going there,I knock off the show like I gotta
go, like I'm obviously I'm doinglike a bunch of songs that they don't
know. And then I go throughthat like ten times, same response every

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time. It's like it's like Iplayed it the first time. Every time
we go yeah, So they grabbedme. It's a bunch of kids and
everybody. Everybody grabbed me. Theytrying to grab me, and they grabbed
me to where I end up.You know how people stays die. I
didn't stays die. They grabbed meto where yeah brought me in. I'm
like, you know what I mean, I ain't got no jewey on or
nothing. I ain't you know,I mean, I'm just here. And

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so that's when I'm like, thisis this, this is yeah, I'm
I'm I'm on and I couldn't likeI can't go no, I can go
nowhere without everybody's oh oo. Soso you know, like we have that
run where you get a song poppingin the States, you run all through

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the States, and then you gooverseas. I was going overseas at the
time when I'm also supposed to bein the States, So I was playing
both get it And when people promoterstry to book me, they have to
book me three months ahead because I'mnot coming back. Wow, you know
so And you know, in somecontracts they'll tell you like, okay,
let's say if you go to Miamior wherever you at, Nigga, Okay,

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you're about to play here. Youknow how, they'll put that radar
thing like that. You can't They'relike, nah, when he's not coming
back to the state. So sohere, yeah, so we had to
clean up everything. I'm here,I'm across the street next day, you
know what I mean. Kid here, we was running that up. And

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we'll run, we'll run through astate and for like about two and a
half three weeks and we're not evercoming back into maybe next year, going
crazy, going crazy, and anduh, I had to leave. And
then I think my first date waslike and like Copenhagen or something like that.

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I think I did not. ThenI ran through all the year.
I ran through all the Middle East. I don't even received over there,
David. First of all, whenI go to Taiwan, right when I
listened to go to Asia, rightI go to Taiwan, I never forget.
I saw dudes crying like I ain'tnever seen that since the only time

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I seen that is when I usedto watch them, Michael Jackson ja from
back then when I used to cry. I seen grown men crying. I'm
like, as I'm performing and thencrying like, oh my god, I'm
like what people under estimate the powerof music. People unders me the power
of music. Music. That's whyhip hop is so strong. Yeah,
you know, and they love it. So you said the reception was real

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good. Yeah, it was realgood. When I get off the When
I get off the it was weird, like especially overseas, like I get
off the plane and everybody's there withpictures already. How do you know I
was about to land here at thistime, so they know exactly where you're
gonna be kind of like they likeeven when you like yeah man, And

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so we get off along like yoo o. I get to my my,
my, my hotel. The outsideof my hotel, this woman Desidne.
They all got printed up pictures ofme, you know what I mean.
So I'm signing everything, and it'slike it's a it's a it's a
great feeling. But while I'm doingall of this, I'm now hearing oh

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oh one hit, wonder one hit, I'm hearing this. So but while
this is going on, I'm gone, you know, I'm like that everybody.
I'm like, what's going on witheverybody? And I never knew that's
how it worked, like, youknow what I mean, I'm like,
yeah, I never do and I'mhearing it. And then when I got
back, I chilled for a minute, and then uh, I pray,

(25:19):
like maybe I chilled for like maybelike three weeks. I went back to
the studio and did cut it.That's my next question, the pressure.
So did you feel pressure during thattime frame to produce that second song?
Did you just you were just onthe road, kept going this was this,
this would happen. I felt Ifelt pressure because it's kind of like

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it's like I didn't when I didwhen I did Coco, I didn't.
It was just it was the feelingfor me. I never knew it was
gonna be that big. I justknew it was hard. I never knew
how big it was gonna be.So that's the part that's messing with you,
because you like, if I triedto do that, you know what
I mean, If I tried todo that, you know what I mean,

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it's different. But I didn't tryto do that. So now,
yeah, I just came from thehip with it. I just came,
you know. So now you're like, damn, so, how I'm supposed
to do this? And so sowe get to the studio, have a
few drinks and everything, and thenit is then I it just just came
out. Bro, when I justI did that, dropped it, and

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then I sent it to young Dogwhile I was going to twenty for our
fitness I sent it to him andthen he sent his verse back. We
dropped it crazy. That did itfor me. That made me a true
fan right there. When you didit, you did it back to back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'mone of them. I'm just wanted
them to skeptics to saying that personwas cold man, But can you do

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that again? He came with it, cut it. I said, yeah,
that's something different, some different.So from blowing up on the music
side to later down the line becomingthe face of what we call the sea
walk over here, right, youknow, let's get to the content with

(27:10):
everybody tuning in. They got dumb, so got ot here. It's just
something that you always is that howyou always boogie when you came when it
was coming up? Yeah? Oris this something you saw me or other
people going yeah we I this waslike we was always doing this. But
when we looked at you, wewas like, oh we broke get us.

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So we always looked at you asthat, you know what I mean.
We always it's like, oh seeworks, So I like, I
love when I watched videos of mindyou. We had we had the box
you know, we had the boxcracking it. You don't even have to
box cracking. So we used towatch it. We always be walking,
especially as a house parties. Atthe house parties, it's like all right,

(27:53):
everybody on the wall. First youknow that little awkwards that everybody on
the wall. Then it's one thatget off, they getting on anybody having
a good time. So it wasalways that. And then I was in
the music video, so I alwaysto see you. I'm like, oh
he get it is all yeah yeahyeah yeah So yeah so that was that

(28:15):
was that was that was like thechild my childhood, you know what I
mean. My childhood is that likewe always we always walk at a port
always right, you know what Imean? And what's crazy for me,
we did the documentary called Sea Walkabout it because it was misunderstood. It
was just the way that we boogeycare. Yeah, it wasn't never came

(28:36):
out as I once ever said Iwas a king. You never said that.
Nobody never came up and said,you know, this is the only
way that we dance over here.Now as matter of fact, we never
said it was a dance. Itwas just for me when the camera shot
on me, that's our boogey.And it just so happened that on the
Upper Smoke tour, you know,especially on the East Coast, you know,

(28:56):
we wanted to make sure that princesspresence was spelled. You know.
I came out, you know,and I'm you know, everybody know Dub
dubs, you know, Trademark gotthe old school walk, you know,
and I got my own skipped toit, call myself Skip Skip. But
what I did was on one fromone side of the station to the other.
And the whole world at the timewas like whoa. So you started
seeing R and D singers kids thatwasn't even that didn't even come up you

(29:22):
know, in the hood that wasdoing it, and you start having a
lot of you know, a lotof official gang bangers that it was hot,
like just making this dance now,you know. But all my homeboys
knew that I wasn't extra out tryingto be around you know what I'm saying
extra, It was just how Igot down. And those who really who
really really lived the life and knewme and and you see me coming up,

(29:47):
you know, in the hood,they saluted it. They were like,
man, show them how we getdown and how we got and when
it brings me to you. WhenI first time I saw you doing it,
I smiled. Everybody's like, dugguts money out there, men trying
to be you. And I said, damn, I said, trying to
be me? I said, nah, I said, I don't mean trying
to be me. He doing him. And I love the fact that you

(30:10):
never to this day. I toldyou when you came in, you don't.
You don't you don't bring it topeople. I'm talking about fall Wise's
interviews like yeah, yeah, let'stalk about today as a seawalk Well yeah,
yeah, yeah. You let peoplebring it to you and talk to
you about it. And I justwanted to know, you know, because
for me, everywhere I go sometimesa lot of times the sea walk overshadows

(30:33):
the music. Music. Yeah,crowd, get to holler them see walk,
see you walk and they want tosee you. Do you ever get
because I want you to the cripwalk on command right there with the camera
and all that all day, everyday, everywhere I go, you know
what I mean, I don't carewhere I'm at. They were like,
hey, walk real quick, andI'm like, man, I ain't just
finna just start walking? Yeah,exactly what, I'm real quick or I'll

(30:56):
be at my shove. I'm before. Are you here? Save walk here?
You know you especially DJ drop abomb boom. It ain't no music
and it ain't nothing. You can'thear nothing save what say you shay?
You walk? You know what Imean? They get everybody else is saying

(31:18):
it. You don't know how manytimes. I'm then told my brother Too's
recipes cute and we all done tryto walk away from it. But you
got to get to people what theywant. And for me, the first
time seeing you get down it wason. First of all, let me
tell y'all how we met. Meand O Team met. I remember the
first time we ran across each other, but we was at the form.
I believe it was. He wasback stage at the forum, wasn't it?

(31:41):
And I had my son would bemy oldest clid, he's twenty now,
and he was younger, and wewas passing by and I saw this
dude say, hey, man,some man, I love you. You
don't know. And I was like, all right, all right, I
said much love you, much love. And my son said, Daddy said,
you don't know what it was.I said, like, he said,

(32:04):
man, that's ot ot genesis AndI said, that's ot. You
said yeah, I said, damn, that's dope. And always in my
head every time I saw you gettingdown on the screen, I always start
back to how when we bumped whatwe bumped into each other, how you
always you know what I'm saying,you paid how much? And saluted and

(32:24):
to me, like I told youearlier, a lot of times we might
run across cast. They got ahit record out and they feel like,
you know, I'm gonna be onforever whatever. They don't even acknowledge,
you know, they don't even acknowledgetheir tears or the ogs or whatever.
To me, that that resonated socold in my heart, man, to
where I always said that no matterwhat this dude did, I was gonna

(32:46):
support it, and we wanted tosee you win. So when I started
seeing you getting down and start seeingthat this is cold. He took.
He took. He took from beingin the eye of the public of being
known for having these workers out toletting y'all know I can go here too.
And then when I got to looking, when I got to looking deeper

(33:07):
into your career and finding out what'sgoing on, I found out so much
more about you, not just whereyou from the LBC and coming up getting
down, but also too, youknow, you had a sense of humor,
something that a lot of us,you know, we lack on the
side or people think that we don'thave. Like CJ used always tell me,
man, we got to show morethan us coming up the whole role
thing. We just come in andwe shoot the party. Yeah yeah,

(33:28):
yeah yeah. And I started seeingthe skits he started doing, and you
was making. You was having somepeople like keep your calling them, but
the fans was loving it. Wewas loving everything you was doing. And
what that seawalk, dude. Whatmade me really say this is cold and
ain't none of these youngsters fing withhim? He on a whole nother level

(33:51):
with it. Was when you hadthat blue Santa Claus had on, Dude,
I said this dude right here.It's nice. Yeah, yeah,
what what? What what made yousaid? I'm gonna do a sniff.
I'm gonna do a drop of skin. Said Man, I don't know.
I was, Man, I don'tknow. I'll be crazy sometimes I'll just
bet in my head. I'm liked. It was Christmas coming up, Christmas

(34:12):
coming up, I'm like and thenyou know, like someone the homies be
like, all right, very Christmas, bro, you know what I mean.
And he'd be like, Man,I'm finna go get the man.
I'm finna go get the uh yeah, the blue I said, what if
they had it? I had lookedup. I said, oh yeah,
I'm gonna walking this today. Andso I did that and walked in the
video that was everywhere. They wereplaying that, the viral, viral,

(34:37):
viral bral. Man, it wasbig. The first thing they said it
was, Man, wait even geta blue center. I saw Mike Capsule
one time in the mall. Mike, I don't know if you remember.
It was on a fox Hill malland we was chopping it up and some
dude came in Men's Land and thenhe came in with a blue Santa Claus
at Mike looked, said, man, you going to hell, yeah to

(35:02):
take a quick quick break and comeback. Yeah, yeah, crazy,
And I guess I can't put mycamera and getting no sea walking on with
me right back Man and c JMax Show, thank you for staying tuned
and welcome back to the Dove Ceand c J Max Show. And I
hope you hit that like subscribe.But yeah, we're just sitting over with

(35:25):
O T. Genesis right now onthe c c J Max Show right here
here in that real uncut raw OT. Tell us what's going on?
Lady? What you what you gotgoing on? You just came back from
out the country, right, Ohyeah, I came from out the country.
I was and out of China.Run try to run around China.
They were trying to make me eatpig brain, big brain. I was

(35:45):
like, I'm not eating that.I'm not eating that, and they just
eating it with a suit. Theyjust eat it. So you know that's
like in the culture. I'm like, and they lived the longest, right,
It's like it's all right, dipit in the soup. Yeah,
lost weight out there. I gotthe McDonald's. I got some ponish from

(36:07):
Vietnam, right and I've been totheir houses to eat and they's a baby
chick and the egg got blue.I think it's called it's a baby chick,
bro. And it's like he reallyright there though, they eating.
Bro. They was like she,I'm like, no, no, distant

(36:30):
all the cultures, but you gottaunderstand all that. You know, we're
not used to eating certain foods.Whatever. We're gonna stick with the nicky
camp like that. You. Yeah, that boy told me o T he
said, there's nothing wrong, justlike chicken nuggets. I said, no,
you cannot compare that to chicken nuggbro. The hop. So one

(36:52):
thing that interests me, man,Doug put me up on this fact that
you I don't know if you don'twant to broadcast or not, because I
want you to. I don't wantnobody to choke and I don't want him
to have to joke nobody. Hewas just he was just he was just
trending with Okay, I didn't seethe video whatever, but anyway, man,

(37:14):
you well versed in m M Aand uh, what's your specials?
Yeah, I've been doing mixed martialarts for like eight years, so it's
like eight nine. Yeah, isthere like a style specialty or something like
that. Marcial yeah, style.Yeah, so I'll do everything different,

(37:34):
like striking to jiu jitsu, youknow, I mean everything like you know
pretty well around it. Yeah.So you've been competing and competing for that
long I've been been Yeah, I'vebeen in an sparn for a long time
and me chilling my ge and wrestlingon the floor and everything like that.
How is that when you first gotinto it was you getting taxed? It

(37:55):
was, yeah, because I didn'tI didn't know. I'm like, I'm
like, all you know is fight, That's all we understand. We didn't
know. It's a science, right, it's a science man. When that
when when when it's people out herethat's dangerous man, and and know things
that that you don't know, it'sit's it's eye opening. But it also

(38:22):
it also helped with discipline. Andnow I see in all those old karate
movies when when the bully right thereand the other dude that know everything be
like just waiting. No, I'mnot letting understand. Bruce just always saying
yep, you don't want to gothere. I understand what mister Mia was

(38:43):
talking about. They didn't want tofight. They're like, look, we're
gonna whoop you. We don't wantto fight. We don't want to fight.
Then they start doing that. It'slike, oh man, but now
I get it because it does whenyou know, when you know what you
capable of doing to someone, you'relike, man, I don't want to.
I don't do this to you,and you're looking at what they doing

(39:05):
and they pre worm up like bro, yeah, you like, I don't
want to do it. Like evenif it's a situation or altercation outside,
I'm like, man, I don'twant to. I don't want to.
Nah man' it's crazy because you knowyou know too much, you know what
you're gonna do. You know whatyou you probably didn't then if you and
if you've been drinking and you don'twant to nobody wrong way, and then

(39:27):
you know what I mean, likeyou like, man, I'd rather not
do it. That's why I'd ratherlike choke you out if that's that.
I'm not gonna don't want to reallyhit you like that because I don't want
you to fall the wrong way orbreak something. That spoiler. Don't just
be running up on him with Ifyou don't feel like see walking, let
it go, let it go,let it go, Let it go.

(39:49):
You don't. But but just likewith any light that you received, whether
it's you know, religion or justsomething that you love, it becomes an
addiction for you to get out thereand to grab take two. So with
the mm A thing and you're doingmusic, is it the urge and sometimes
still want to go and get downand compete. Yep. Always always,
But that's what I said. Isaid, I'm glad. I'm I'm glad

(40:13):
I didn't run into that when Iwas younger, because I would be fighting'll
be, I would not be rapping, right, nor would I even have
I love that too much, soI'll be dedicated to that your passion.
You probably just been just successful though. Yeah we've been sitting right here right
now with ot the m m Ayeah, a little Caulifler. Yeah,

(40:34):
you have to hear. You hadto hear. Don't play with them ear
I see one of them ears.Man, they say, they say you
gotta keep flushing them. Yeah,keep flushing. I think most fighters getting
know they wear him like a badge. That it's kind of like a badge.
Had that ear right, Yeah,you want everybody know, it's like
walking, You're like you I knowwhat he do. Yeah, so ot

(40:54):
man, I've been told that youjumping into the movies now yeah yeah,
TV and movies correct, Yeah,movies. So what you got going?
I get to it, well,I shot I shot a TV show and
with MTV in September that just shota TV show with them. And as

(41:20):
far as the movies, I'm righthere chilling, you know, reading the
scription, figuring it all out,you know what I mean. But definitely
film, It's definitely gonna be filmmand TV. I'm definitely like I'm I'm
locked in obviously the next progression man, and I know you're gonna do great
at that, just like everything else, you know what I mean. Yeah,
super super talented individual man, andman, I'm thoroughly impressed. Man,

(41:44):
I'm hollering, you know, reconnectingverbally. I think the time that
we met during COVID. Okay,I react to you on I g remember
oh yeah, yah yeah yeah yeah. Everybody be saying, dub that ain't
really you on I g ain't youain't got no blue? But is that
the blue uh yeah, a bluecheck? For some reason, I've been

(42:05):
trying. I don't know if it'sthe wrong people that's trying for me.
I can't get a blue check.So IG, if you're listening now on
Facebook, give me my blue check. That's me. I reached out,
Yeah, quit playing. I reachedout to the homie and I said,
Yo, I've been seeing you getdown and do your thing. Man,
keep your foot on the neck.I'm proud of you, you know.
And I just learned how to Idon't know if you look at the message.
I just learned how to work this. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

(42:27):
yeah, yeah. You did tellme I had somebody always running my ig
from me. Everybody used to goingacross to you. They'd be like some
cats were looking at me crazy.I'm like, damn, what's going on.
But the person that was running myig for me, you know,
I asked him during COVID because Ididn't I had nothing to do. Let
me sit up and learn this righthere. So I reached out to a
lot of people that I've always wantedto chop it up with. And I'm

(42:49):
glad that we got a chance tosit down though, you know, and
not just sit down to learn moreabout OT genesis, but for me to
sit here and to give you yoursand I'll let you know that I'm proud
of you. Man, keep onwhat you're doing and you always got a
spot here to come here. Thisis home, man, It's home.
And I love the fact that youyou Yeah, anybody no dub they no
dub is always. I always tryto be original, from putting braids on

(43:13):
my beer to the language and dosee if leahna all that to just you
know, being me and to hearyour story of you not being scared to
do you and how it was ashock to you, even a funny story
about being in the club and havingmoney like legally, like you know,
you remind me so much of mybig bro right here, CJ. CJ
is always being you know, someonewho you know who not scared to step

(43:37):
out the box and be him.And to see you come in today you
know what I'm saying, and gotyour own swag, you know, like
my like my big bro right here. You know, both of y'all got
the fly shirts you know. Tome, I love to see that and
I just want you to continue tostay doing you. Don't for me to
you, I got the noise mento continue to do you, dude,

(43:57):
and no matter what, at theend of the day, whatever the the
answer is you know or the outcomeis you the one that was in control
of your own narrative, You theone that did it. Can't nobody say
that you know that. You can'tsay nobody failed you, but you could
say that I did it on myown and if it didn't jump, if
it didn't jump off, I canalways come back and do it again because
you did it once with Coco,and you did it will cut it and

(44:20):
you're out here right now doing moviesand doing your thing. Dude. I
salute you, man, I'm proudof you. Man. Here for you,
man. No matter what. OT y'all, Certain Genesis, y'all,
let them know where they can findyou at. Oh you can find
me on the ground, you canfind me on Twitter, you can find
me on all that. Man,everything is just O T Genesis man hogh
at me oh TJ Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, thank you, brother,

(44:43):
I appreciate you. I'm SA loveit, Brosten. Yes, come on,
come on, you can tune intoanother pop Pack episode of seeing CJ
Max Joe. I am CJ Maxand I'm dub c with OT Genesis.
Yeah yeah, yeah, fine,