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May 2, 2023 • 40 mins
Dub C and CJ Mac sit with Comedian Scruncho to disscuss Media Instigated beef with Mike Epps, working on the film How High, industry triumphs and pit falls, and the Life of a West Coast Comedian.
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J gub c c J Maxshall.Welcome back to another fire fact episode of
the Dove cing CJ. Maxshaw's againtingI am CJ Mack and I am the
one that only dove c. What'sup, bro? Bro? What we
got going? Man? Feel goodto be back to day see that?
Yeah? What's up? New?You go to lick a freshman? Ye

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man? Yeah? Yeah, youknow I think they. I think somebody
Internet saying, uh, I'm player. I love it. Today we got
another special guest because everybody's special tome, and I'm saying everything right special,
super super special to me. Manand his home team was again you

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know he's uh, he's absolutely hilarious. Man. It's my even taught me
how living weights one day. Yea, y'all ain't know it is man,
you know, it's like to say, I'm like the h I'm like the
fine cologne of comedy. Come on, yeah, you know, come on,
well, I'm like fine cologne.Like don't really for me. They

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just want to smell like they do. Okay, for the first couple of
minutes, we're gonna try to refinefrom using the world. I know,
he's right, man, My bad, because it's always again I should just
be quiet. Obviously, gonna bea challenge, you know, when you

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went two real ones. Man,it's just a natural thing to say,
you know, a man, youknow how I sitting here with my grandmama,
auntie Dad. It to be reallyeasy not to say the realist.
Look, it's a natural all respect, dude. Like we were just having
a conversation. Yeah, we learnedfrom a lot of them. Yeah,
because to me, a lot oftime, what your mouth? I want

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to come to yourself. You dotoo much custom exactly. Your show is
an amazing brother, keep me crackingup. You know what I love about
it. It's so hood and it'sso rooted. Yeah, you know you're
born the range, La. Yeah, I'm a I'm a I'm a food
long beach baby. Iry was bornin Chicago, moved out here on all
three. Yeah, yeah, wemoved from Chicago, moved straight to Watts

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you know what I mean. Helived in the Nickerson watch Man, laugh
out Nickersons. Then move straight toNorth Cilona Beach and I've been there every
since. That's history. That's history, man, he beach. She man?
What's shout out? Long Beach?Man? Shut up? Nickas is
everybody else where? People always alwaystacking up on cows because scratch up from

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Compton. And I'm always telling onlydifferent Compton to Long Beach is green Leaf.
Yeah, I do too. Idon't go to east side that,
but I don't know what to becareful at. Let's kick it off,
man, how do you get startin the comedy? Man, it's so

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crazy. Man. When I firststarted doing the comedy, you know,
like most most casts, we startin the hood and and man, you
think you're funny, you won't geton stage. I said, oh my
Mama, give me into snapting.So the Holly come get me, put
me on stage. And I knewI was you know, I thought I
was bigger than what I really was. I was funny, I said,
I'm going big. I flew mygrandmama out. I had my sisters come,

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family came, the Hollies came.Man, my mom and my mama
left me with my daddy jacket.My sister made me a braces. I
went on stage looking like everybody right, I get I get on I say,
I get on stage, su Iget on stage. Man, I'm
gonna tell you something. I ain'tnever been scared of nothing my whole life.

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But when you face your gift.The minute they called my name,
bro, it's like walking to death. Row. I walked down the man
feel jumped at me man and Igot on stage. I have my little
Malcolm X jacket. My mama gaveme that my daddy wanted to wear.
Not to have my race and mysister ware. I can't think of a

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joke man in my eighty nine yearold grandmama bless her. So sit like
you probably all the way out ifit is my brother, though I told
men, the only one like Ilove you, brother, you hang yourup

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from that man. I did nottook a lost I had. My bro
was like you go away, goaway, and I was being so it
hurt me so bad. I sweatman. I walked away from from long

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Beach from Hollywood to to to LongBeach thinking about your life. Yeah,
it hurt me so bad and ittook me about maybe three and four years
out there to get back on stage. But that time next time, I
had a strategy ready. So that'sone of the act. So did you
start off as like a bagger?Like you thought you was like the coldest

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dude could bag on everybody? Andknow that the reason why because A.
J. Johnson, remember almost brobecause he was backing on time. We
should be like, dude, youneed to ride a routine or something.
Yeah, big homie. Yeah,man, um, we all started our
bagging, you know because most blackpeople we now actually funny, right,
We're just funny and spirit but usuallylike if you watch Chris Rock special,

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right, um, and it wascool. Let mean for the seventh special
it was decent. But what youcould tell at the end when he got
to talking about it, he didn'trecover yet. See, in order for
the comedy to really be at aspast, you gotta heal from what you
went through in order that resonate,you know what I'm saying. And with

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Chris you can still hear the feelings, you can still hear the hurt,
you know what I'm saying it,And it didn't resonate like it you know,
it was more emotional than funny.So it's like if somebody in your
family died. We're going through thepain. But then once the pain go
away, but like then, whydon't there grab that wig looking like the
time you look? But the painoverrode it. So that's just it's just

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you gotta heal. So that's whya lot of cats up. So it
took some time for you to healand you was back at it. Yeah.
Then once I got over the pain, I understood that. I mean,
it's an art, you know whatI mean. And I focused on
the art of comedy and not justto you know, the perception of what
I thought comedy was. You know. So it's a real it's a real

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beautiful gift to have. You know. I got a question, what was
your first show? You did?What you realize like, damn, I'm
mom, I'm on yeah, Andhow did that feel? Man? You
know them because that's all the sweethearOur song on already and we're like we'd
have made it. Yeah. WhenI first you know, when people first
started laughing, man, it bitI remember it was I did a show

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man I was, and it wasit was like it was in New York,
my first time in New York andit was a New York when it
did a show in New York andit was a and I was. It
was kind of like it was afear thing because it was during the time
of East Coast versus West Coast.I think I know a little something about
that. And I was like,oh man, And I came out there,

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you know, I'm straighting on mydickies and I got the you know,
the house shoes zone, and I'mlike on the West Coast really heavy,
and I already go to the stageand it was at the Apollo Ray
was they was already, you know, because the first show I got boomed
so bad because I told Rudy Rush, I said, do not tell them

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I'm from La Jes, say fromaround the way. So I got boot
fight and went to the stage froml a a y'all know, and my
name but Jes because I asked meLa Beef. And so the second show
man, I was so nervous.I said, they don't say my name.

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I said, don't say where I'mfrom, right, So he didn't
say while I was from it's TracySashion Rest in Peace from Long Beach east
Side. Long Beach is out there, and he just popped up out like
our angel, out of nowhere andhere like cause you know how we do
it, you know, he gavehe said, man, you I got

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and I went out there and Ijust smash it. So I looved dove
at him. You're like, yeah, So from that point, it was
it was. It was, Itwasn't it was. I knew I had
something different there. I mean becausebecause in New York, I don't care
what nobody saying. How funny youthank you is if you can't make them

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laugh in New York, Yeah,you can't make them laugh New York.
You know, New York is themecca hip. We all know that.
And what's crazy is if you canmake it in New York. I'm talking
about Fallwatch is performing you know,you go, you pretty much can perform
anywhere. Yeah, y all thecomics they raw, you know what I'm

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saying. And when you conquer NewYork, it was like, man,
and now New York is a tripbecause they're hard on you, you know,
but when they love you, it'sthe love it. It's you can't
never lose again. Yeah, youknow they gonna go hard on you.
You know what I'm saying. BecauseI first went to New York to do
a show out there. Man,I said, Wow, it was big.
It was born to do it ina wheelchair. I remember back in

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the days doing the New York musicseminars. Yeah, it was a couple
of groups that wasn't from New York. Ain'tle seeing the names and went out
there. They were throwing shoes inthem, Andy Man, they robber when
they love you, man, Iswear man, it's like, could no
other type of love? You know, I love and LA love me.
You know what I'm saying. Butit's weird how you know, Uh,

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I could go out of town andbe selling on everything they love. I
mean everyone go it's like, youknow, get home. I get home
and they cheat me like they're doingme a favor. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying. And again,if I blow up tomorrow and and mess
with none of the la, theyswamp it down on Hollywood. Yeah,
but they really went HollyHood first.Oh yeah, you know what I mean.

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You've got the casts that they beembracing out here. They not even
at my level, not even openthe ax. But they're more comfortable with
what they don't know than everything thatthey think they do know. So let's
talk about the politics of being acomedian. Lot of times I hear other
comedians say that, you know,it's not like y'all think like we all
just be looking out for each other. A lot of times you gotta you

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know what I'm saying, a lotof times you gotta go for self when
outside looking in and it seemed likeit is like that, but not in
LA, like you gotta remember manin LA. And I always say,
people don't realize how LA is becauseif you think of well, I was
telling y'all this earlier, you know, I always say, NWA, it's

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the greatest not just rap you,but the greatest rock and roll group of
all times, not because of whatthey did, but because how people went
through their brand. Click it alland think about it. With between Easy,
Doctor Dre, ice Cube and SnoopDog. I mean, with the

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ice Cube and Doctor Dre Man,guess what it wouldn't be No Chris Tucker.
It wouldn't be no no, no, no, no, um um
um Cat Williams. It wouldn't bemy Morris Chest, but Mike Elbs,
it wouldn't be Um think about.It wouldn't be no Sugar Night. It
wouldn't be no. It wouldn't beno, no death ro. It wouldn't

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be no ball, It wouldn't beno, it wouldn't even be It's so
many actors that came through that thatthat brand, you know what I mean?
And then I had to take it. It took me a long time
to realize. I know, Snooptalked to Cube all the time, and
it took me a long time torealize. It's not where you're from.

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It's a business. It Once youunderstand it's a business and it's not personal,
and then you don't it. Don'tdiscourage you and encourage you because they
can't put you on because you fromthe West coast. Right, it's a
business, right, you know whatI mean? Asked up? How could
we any more? Moon? He'sa cute Why come you in? Yeah?
If I go out on the agustion, you know, and I put

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them, you know, balls tothe walls and go out there and just
go harder whatnot in there thing,I might be able to fall into some
of those, right, a lotof people think because you're cool with somebody,
they supposed to just put you on. Don't It don't work like that.
He's learning that right now because he'son the rotter side of the producer
side as well, that you gottawork hard man, You gotta work hard
man. We gotta actually work harder, you know what I mean? Because

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me and Snoop we didn't knowing eachother since childhood. Yeah, I mean,
and if you think about all thestuff he put me on. I
did movies with Snoop, right,I put how much more can he do
for me? Right? He sharedhis brand with me all the time.
You could do? Yeah, youknow when the Netflix special came out with
all the comedians and I wouldn't knowit my phone boy, Why something put

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you off? But they don't understand. It's a business. It's you let
them use his name for the specialand with Sarah ray Maker put the roster
to count. Yeah you know whatI mean. I wouldn't include in the
roster. But it wasn't personal.It was business, you know what I
mean. And they think because youla, you should have been seen.
Maybe I did get overlooked. It'scommon, but it's never a person.

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Know what I'm saying, How didyou? How did you get the role?
And how high you know? Igot to we final to get into
how high I got. Apologize tomy boy Mike Ups. I keep in
mind Mike is my potner potner,and we talked crazy to each other and
I got al radio last week.I man, Mike ain't never put I
said, Mike gave me everything,but he ain't never he let me eat,

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but he ain't never let me getfull. But the part they left
fought is he did better than letme get full. He taught me how
to feed myself. You got torealize it couldn't bait. Yeah, people
they try, they try to.They trying to cut it up. So
they yeah, they cut it up. And well, I'm not familiar with
whatever was going on love Mike soand he didn't. He was just kind

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of like what And when I lookedat it, I seen how they flipped
it. But it wasn't even theway they flipped it as the way I
said it, because I was like, they ain't never Mike ain't never let
you. Ain't let me eat,but he didn't let me get full,
which he didn't, but he letme, taught me how to feed myself
right and did he didn't not onlythat, man, if it wasn't for
Mike EFPs, he educated me onhow to how proper etiquette, how to

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act. I don't know how todeal with certain people, certain cultures.
And it was because Mike shared hisbrand and let me get that and it
was dope. But then I waslike, you know, then they edit
it where I said, I gota joke right while I'll be talking about
Hollywood. I said, man,they ain't scared of your talent, you
know what I mean. They scaredhim a fire. They don't want me
to find who their boyfriend is.Like they edited it, they edited that

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right out. I said that itmade it look like I was talking about
Mike EFPs. You knowing everybody knowthat is a one real one. You
know, yeah, that's a supersolid cat man. And you know we
hadn't been the war together business.And any time I feel like I disrespect
somebody or hurt their brand or didanything, because I know in this business
you can make a lot of money. Thing casts under the bus, right,

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that's the new hustle. That's justthrow them under the bus. So
with me, I don't do mypopnets like that. Don't if I if
I was out of pocket, youknow, especially like his daughters. They
sing it in and took it wrong. So not just to Mike, but
to his daughters, to wifey.You know, I love it. That's

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my family too, you know whatI'm saying. So to my own,
I'm sorry. You know you mypopnet and I gotta I gotta respect my
friends, you know. Yeah,that's who you here on the CJ.
We shot to make and we're startingoff scrunch other day. Michael little gaze,
he was Mike. When I seeMichael, Michael game, man,

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it might be ready to get theman right there before we go pack some
bills. Um, I'll can giveyou some give you word of a vice
though. Know when you're talking tothese people, it's unfortunate, man,
because we can't be ourselves because theygo run with it. But know that
they're trying to they're trying to get, they're trying to paint the narrative so
they can they can catalize, theycan capitalize. Everybody want everybody won't view

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man, I mean TMZ hit meup asking me what do you think about
what this person said? That personsaid this and that or whatever, and
your name came up or whatever andeverything I did tell them tune into the
dove CCJC. Yeah, it's alloff, you know what I'm saying.
If I can't call it, talkto that person personally. I don't trumble
off for what's going on. Yeah, you know, we like streetcasts.
Man. I'm very and I'm veryum overretective about my name because you say

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something, I mean, you mighthave to catch a fade, you know
what I mean, if it's you'retrying to destroy my brand. So by
the same token, I gotta berespect for to if I disrespect somebody brains
because some of my favorite comedians,you know, I mean, like my
favorite probably rapper. You know,I love West Coast. I'm a West
Coast I just like Dub always comeman. You know. Dub was the

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heat, the heat, the uhhe the uh, the brick to to
the uh. I look at himlike the brick. Then I look at
Ice like the brain, and Ilook at Mac Ten like the player of
that West Side connection. You knowwhat I mean, You the foundation to
the brain and Mac was the littleyou know, and so you always respect

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the brick, you know, whatI'm saying, and he would you you
know, we talk he finished domy special, you know, but he
would let real quickly. We gota lot more to shake. We will
be Zach's all day. We gotworth, we got west Side, we

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got hoodies like that worth Sill gotwork for sale. We got work for
sale, we got merch for sale. We're at dub C and CJMC dot
com. Get it, get itbe boys, Shit, I got a
bit hit. Welcome back to thedub C CJ Max Show. I am

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dub and I am still and alwayswill be CJ Mack and we still here
with Crucho and incredible enough. Bro. So you're saying something that was very
interesting because Dove C and I withthis being fifty years of hip hop.
Yes, C and I just hada show and we were talking about the
impact of NWA on music period.But you just brought up a scorn point

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that it even has something to dowith actors and media medias. Oh yeah,
that's that's that's that's something that wedidn't even think that you've been to.
Man, how powerful that movement was. Man that yeah, Man,
come on, think about it,man, Doctor Dre. If you break
them down individually. You'll see You'llsee a long line of celebrities, each
one of those cats brought in,you know what I mean. And if

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you go through the Q brought inand all of the comedians and the actors
and all of cats like that.Yeah, you know. I was actually
got mad at Chris Tucker because hewouldn't come back and do Fridays. I'm
like, man doing it? Man, come on, bro, Yeah,
I say, because because he talkedabout the money. But the truth of
the matter is that was the reddoor that opened enough for everybody give you

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money. So that platform and thatred door was worth more money than you
could ever make. Wow. Soyou should never come back and forget the
fact that what they gonna give youwould not give you. It's it's it's
just good business. Yeah, youknow what I mean. And Chris Toby,
he said I would come back.He real cool man, he said,
you want to come back, andlike, it's really not about the

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money. So I'm trying to talkon the coming back because that's that's a
movie that could never miss. No, it's a billion dollars in the end.
I love Chris. How did youget the role in How Hot?
Because that ain't got nothing to dowith nothing over here. Hey man,
you know what I talked to ashine of Guard. She was my agent

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of the time, which is thesame way uh uh, the same as
a Mathew man. I had anaudition for the role, and Mike originally
got me an audition for um thedude that played the uh with the with
the dial on it on. Heplayed the quiet dude that rolled the hits

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from the streets right okay, butnot the cat who had the role of
the role I played. It wasa cat named CJ. Cross had it
right, but he got mad becausehe didn't get that role audition for.
So when he didn't get the role, he didn't show up. So Mike
Kipps was like, don't get scrauntcho. I want to get Scrauncho. He

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said, a matter of fact,I'm gonnanna get him and the nigga rolle
through the hood. And he handpicked me for that Pacific role even though
shinna car originally got me the audition. Mike hand picked me for that role
right to be his assistant. Itwas one of my first big movies and
I was nervous and he just said, man, just he coached me on

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how to act and just be cooland the cold point about it. Yeah,
we are sold that when we seenit with me and Mike seen it.
We looked at it and we wasextremely disappointed because the funniest stuff they
cut out because what happened it testedso high our characters that they brought us

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back in and repaying us, payus more money to shoot the hole isn't
in a movie, you know whatI'm saying. Damn. And then he
couldn't use a lot of it becauseit would have been our movie. Know,
but we still was able to makeit legendary, you know what I'm
saying. And Pampas since pampandh seeyou go a long line. You got

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a long life. But sister pills, you'll never be a citizen. Now
a lot of improfit not I don'tknow that now that'll be but it should
sound good. So I wasn't understandit was a lot of improfit. Man,
man, man, My chemistry isundeniable, you know what I'm saying,

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Because you know it's just you know, you can't nobody have a real
answer for chemistry. Even you gotit, you don't. We don't even
know. We just worked good togetheron tour and everything. You know what
I mean, even though our ourroads took different paths and different terms,
and we still brothers and spirit andwe don't hang like we used to,
but we still you know, Isaw always genuine love. You know what

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I'm saying, and it is whatit is. I think of being a
comedian in La has gotta be trickybecause you know the attitudes around hit Me
flaring man. You know, youknow if people don't take the jokes,
that will you know what I mean. I got a joke where back in
the days, the world has walked, you know what I'm saying. So

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back in the days, you couldn'tget nobody to sit in front of the
stage because everybody was scared to gettalked about, getting body on the front
down. The world is so walkedthere with all the smoke. I did
a show last week. It wasdue to the front row all. I
didn't all they say nothing too,we gonna jump out. I didn't wait,
he ain't putting out it all micToob. I didn't wait on you

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to say something about me. Nigga. I was going down, come home
with it. Come on, yougot me messed up? Nobody how deal
hecklers? Um, you know whatit's like, you can't really never disrespect
the person with the mic because yeand you really you really fee then today

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gift, you know what I mean? So when you mess with me,
I'm you know, I say allthe things I wanted to say court to
the you know, so that's theworst. It's easy to deal with him.
But I really don't get a lotof hecklers because you too. Yeah
yeah, yeah yeah. I usedto have When one of my whole boys

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standing over there, we just hada heckling crew. We have money.
Jun thought was cold. We shouldgo to the comedy Stone RiPP boy,
we should have to be right upthere and all that. And I like
to tell this story about Eddie Griffin. We told his ass up his first
night in the commage. We toldwhat we came back. Yeah, he
said, oh no, put themin the hey hey bro. He just

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mantled us one yeah, just arguingwith each other. Bro. It was
like he was like, okay,he ain't to be playing man. So
you learned as a heckler, bro, I used to be a professional heckler.
Man. You learned the who toplay with Griffin man, he embarrassed

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so bad. We argued all theway home. But Daddie is a genius
man. Got he liked one ofthe most probably underrated comedians in the in
the world, because it's you couldname all, I could name all.
I probably can name three or fourcomedians. He probably even in the top
two. He his he prolific whenit comes mind so winsdom Man. He

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just pure genius. Man. Whoare some of the comedians that you,
um, you hold like mont mountRushmore and you know when it comes to
comedians like who are your top comedians? Well, you know what I'm saying,
Um, I'm not gonna say MikeElse because I like him. He
my friend, but you he hisrange, he could act the characters.

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He don't even do all the charactershe can do. You know what I'm
saying, he real he keeping athousand and he really underrated. I love
my I absolutely love Cat Williams.You know what I'm saying, shut out,
you know what I mean? Hehe another just he get you got
to get you on the show.Cat is characteristically just hell of funny.

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What I'm saying at brilliant And thenI'm gonna have to go with like Eddie
Murphy because nobody got his range.Eddie. Eddie was the first one to
put rock and roll in the comedy. He was the first one to tunted
into a rock and roll. Heput the fire to know what I'm saying,

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what may Eddie and always said KingRichard Pryor, Richard Pryor is to
you know, he's the one andonly king and it's not as not only
because of his uh remember he didwatch stacks. I remember that he was.

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He always stayed in the hood andhe always he was the first one
that he put all black actors onhim and him and him and a red
fox. They the first ones thatsaid me and if it ain't they used
the N word and on Johnny Carsonand on his shows and check and they

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was checking and he no matter howsuccessful he got. And that's why I
love by Richard Pryde, Marvin Gayeand um and it's a couple of it.
But what I love about them,right, they the first artist that
was accepted follow their brands was accepted, and they crossed over with the white
thing when it was accepted by mainstreamsociety and they abandoned that. It came

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back to the hood. Richard Pryortook off the suit and came back to
the hood and kept it griming.You know what I'm saying. That's when
he got raw. Uh. MarvinGaye took off the dowap suit, got
with the beard and nappy and likewhat's going though? They and those that
cash you I look up to whenthey make it to black Toy come down

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and and and deal with casts inthe hoods. And that's why you got
some casts like you know or oror or Eddie Griffin like that. Yeah,
you know what I mean. Hereally a crip. You know,
he loved you know, he reallya crip. Crip, you know what
I mean. For Compton, heyeah, man, and he got real
crypt ties for real, for real. So shout out the Eddy and he,

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you know, in casts like thatthat come back and deal. You
know, boy. Some of myfavorite comedian love Corey hokem you know oh
man, Yeah, hom is probablydumb C's favorite comedian. Man. I
love one joint. Shout out toall the fab mitches of Rod Dick with

(29:45):
T shirts on Dumb Love Manny Rawand um, you know, and so
I liked the Raw Raw comics.Man, you know, and even when
it comes to this comedy, youknow, it's it's less than two percent

(30:06):
that could fuck with me, youknow. But nowadays, if you tell
a raw truth, you sound likea hater because you're missing off the church.
No, no, no, whatI mean. But if you take
it, see where you get foodthat you know, if you take away,
they accolades, they tidle, theirmoney, they fame, and a
lot of these is trash, youknow, you know, but you know

(30:26):
what do we got to look forwardto coming from You're trying to tell the
raw truth? You sound like ahater. Yeah, you know what I'm
saying. But I'll tell you whoto Raw's female comedian out some more some
more less see her Netflix spec haveshe not just probably got to hide as

(30:48):
Netflix special as a female, butas a male too, because you gotta
look at she top man, lookat she mastered geniusly the art of comedy,
you know what I'm saying. Andwhen she got on there, man,
her Netflix special, happy laughing frombeginning to end. I had to
call her and tell her I washe spectful. I called her husband and

(31:08):
told him, Man that the funniestspeci I ha seen y'all don't see some
more specially you better go see itbecause the master are in the comedy.
She mastered it. Let's take onemore break and we're gonna come back and
talk to you about what you gotgoing on, hearing the near future and
what we have to look forward to. So we'll be right back. Stay

(31:30):
tuned. We'll be right back,y'all. We got worth, we got
west Side, we got hoodies likethat worth sill work for sale. We
got worth for sale, we gotmerch for sale. We're at dub C

(31:51):
and CJMAC dot com. Get it, get it. You can't be boys.
Shit, I got a bit hit. Welcome back to the dub C
CJ Mcshow. I'm still CJ MAC, believe or not. Yeah, and
I'm still sitting right here with thehomeboy scrunch. Yes, yes, the
scrunchh Man. Thank you for comingtoday, man and sharing stuff for this

(32:13):
man and a monk dropping jewels,being a man, you know what I
mean, Absolutely changing and promoting whenwe promote man, making making this place
a better place for all of us, man and getting along round here as
best we can. Um. Whatare we looking forward to out of you
in the future. I got actuallynegotiation and do my special. You know
what I mean, I'm gonna doa documentary comedy special. So the first

(32:37):
thirty minute is gonna go into mydocumentary and basically a West Coast version of
it, you know in DM murgedtrading into my comedy. You know what
I mean. I'm glad. I'mglad you came out here and you staid
at first what you're gonna do withyou know, niggas be biting right,
Yeah, of course they should,they should buy it. But you know
what, the one thing they cameby it is me there because I'm the
best at being me. Yeah,and nobody came top me. When I'm

(33:00):
on stage, I'm the best atwhat I do. You know what I'm
saying, And at the time,it don't matter who's better, who you
think is better at that moment whenthe mic is in my hand. The
one thing I know I did,I mastered this art of comedy. What
I love about you? Your confidence? Yeah? I love that. You
know. In this business right here, we gotta be our biggest cheerleaders.
Yeah, we gotta root for ourselvesbigger, you know, harder than anybody

(33:22):
else's root for us. Because ifyou know, they say, squeaky Wheel,
get the oil. And if wedon't speak up, you know what
I'm saying, a lot of peopleare not gonna listen. We get lost
in the sauce. With all thatbeing saying, Man, I appreciate you,
and this interview is it's more thanjust an interview. To me,
is special because we mean you bothin the physical essence lost somebody that was
dear to us. Yeah, yeah, master, it's a it's a like

(33:45):
myster arrest in piece man. Thatis, he is like the big homie
in the back ball of my brand. Because when I've been boasted, he
sat down and he loved everything aboutmy comedy everything. But I think he
taught me was addequtt how to dealwith um, you know, the weird

(34:07):
old world. And he educated methere because I had a mentality that was
hurt anymore than but that's me becauseI didn't know how to navigate it right.
And then I've been doing him sinceI was a little dude. And
then once yeah, so a littledude. We bet and uh Carmelino,
Yeah, the stay at next doorand then he stayed on the other he

(34:30):
used to that's a d d TheHome Girls yea, and I came over
they one day we were shooting diceand just pulled up. I pulled up
and we just talked it. Wekicked in him and we just and we
bonded from that point. Then Iseen him in prison and I see it
and then we just been and healways he was always there for me,
you know what I'm saying, Andand years of years I knew, but

(34:51):
he had to wait for the timewas right to bring me the ice Cube
right right start. For those whodon't know Monsters, Monster was he was.
It was a homeboy from the hood, but also too he down.
He became one of the security guardsfor ice Cube yea. And he always
pushed for you anytime. He alwayspushed. Q promised me you know what
I mean. Well, we wereright before Monster passed. We was scheduled

(35:15):
to Dude the special. Wow.Yeah, Cuban Suit had Monster set it
up and he had the special betweenme, Cube and Snoop. He sat
me in the room with him andit was like it was a it wasn't
a dream three come true and meand a nigga man we cried, He's

(35:35):
I told you, Q gonna messwith you and being Q talked to this
day and because Q didn't know,Q didn't No, I don't smoke,
get hid, do drugs, getI'm gonna do nothing. So hit that
shocked, you know what I mean. So and to this day, me
and Cuban negotiation to do my specialand even if it don't go, just
the fact that que he got trying. Yeah, the same company that schedule.

(36:04):
Yeah, matter of fact, man, y'all gotta come. I'm doing
a um Easter Sunday. I'm doingmy second annual woman empowerment, all clean
comedy show with all female lineup exceptme. And it's called Loyalty over Love
because of our loyalty. Love isjust a hustle and it's just uplifting the
woman and it's clean and it's refreshing. It's gonna be at the City of

(36:27):
Refuge Easter Sunday. Tickets on sale. You go to the City of Refuge,
you get the tickets. It's gonnabe amazing. I'm gonna bring my
a game, My mama gonna bethere, Grandmama gonna be Yeah. And
you bring your mother, bring yourgrandmother, bring your daughter, bring your
aunties. It's a time where allwomen need to be uplifted because right now
women as being really just brutalized andgetting they getting the bath short ends of

(36:52):
the deal, and I just wantto make them feel good. To do
that though, so we can close, and we can as well make she
rad clean clothes because Scrunch is gonnabe a clean show. Yeah, to
be talking about the clothing and nothe's got to be talking about And I

(37:13):
tell you at the time, comedy, as they want to know, comedy
has, it's a spirit. Andwhen you got that spirit of laughter,
you don't have to cuss. Youknow, I don't do sex jokes.
No, no, I'm saying no, I don't do no sex jokes because
it's so much. It's so muchto say, Dad, when you do
the sex jokes, you cheated it. You you got so much, man,

(37:35):
you gotta go through something right andwhen you could go, I live
so much, man, I findI got the average he goes away comedy
go first special is fire, everybodyhungry broke after. Then a second special
with half is funny because now hegot some money. Now he got some
face that's acculating. Now you haveit's like rap. Now your third special
is completely trash. You talking aboutyour money and I now you your ego.

(38:00):
Run what I'm saying. The averagecomedian never do the fourth one.
I say that to say this.If I blow up tomorrow, I got
five specials in me. Wow,at least I got a monologue, a
catalog full of jokes. Nobody gotmore material than me in comedy. And
I've been on this stage every minusthe four years I was in prison.

(38:22):
Yeah, I've been on stage fromMonday through Sunday, four or five times
of a night. Sometimes I've beena microphone junkie and put in a way
I made it an addiction. Andwhen I grabbed that mic, it's a
rap. You know what I mean. I ain't got to talk about nobody

(38:44):
except everything I've been through it.Yeah, you y'all heard it right here.
Hey, y'all, come out supportthe homey any and everything. He's
the Sunday Man. Come through,Bishop Norah Jones. You know what I'm
saying. In the City of Refugeand Jaylam gonna be hosted. I got
Wander White, Reatha Jones, CathyWinfield, all women, and I'll would

(39:06):
come in and just close the show. Well you already here there, you
becoming a brother and we appreciate you, man, I appreciate good y'all.
My mama mama, which is mygrandmother, man, and we got to
get you back on the show.Man. Oh my mama. Have been
an honor, and being here isan honor because you know, I watch

(39:30):
y'all, man, and just tobe just for y'all to know who my
brand is because I was I was. I was a fan of y'all way
before y'all even know who I was. And to be here with y'all,
it's more of an honor to me. Man. This is just as big
as I swear. Man, Thisis like I came out here specifically,
but it showed appreciate you because y'allWest Coast legends, y'all respected in the

(39:52):
industry, y'all respected on all level, all aspects, and and for y'all
to go this long and we suckerfree, you know what I mean,
it's ten toes down. Man.It's unbelievable. And I'm a part of
just for y'all, including my brandwith y'all brand, man, it's pricing.
Anytime you asked me to come back, man, I'm coming. We're
definitely gonna get you back on andI'm paying for my all parking. I

(40:15):
don't even know. I told threedollars. Yeah park everything everything to another
part fact episode of the dumb Cand c J Mac Show, What Coms
Crime Show. I am c JMan, I am dumb C. Thank

(40:37):
you up,
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