April 18, 2023 • 50 mins
Dub C and CJ Mac sit down with Deandre Bonds aka Skully (Snowfall) to discuss landing his first acting role, ending up in prison at the height of his career, coming home and landing major roles on the big screen, then finally finding a home on the late John Singleton's hit television series "Snowfall".
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J dub c c J Maxshall,What up? Y'all? Welcome to another
episode of the dub sing CJ Maxshall. Once again, I am dub scene
and I am c J Mac.What's up? Bro? Bro? What's
up? Bro? You feel Ifeel good? Man? I bossibility better
man, I'll be you cal man, you want to be moon walking back?
You know what I'm saying. Wegotta do, We gotta be done,
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manulgare Man. It's snowing again inLos Angeles. U huh you know
what? What day? Man?We got another special guest. Like I
said every week, but this oneis true to my heart. Man,
this is my guy. Uh.You don't really need no introduction, man,
y'are all knowing? You know whatI'm saying. Yond Dreve Bro,
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mister Duve c mister C J.Mc man, this is one of my
dreams come true. Man with thegreatest man of legnan b Bro. We
really appreciate that. Man. You'rea legend. Bro bro y'all Landen,
you know what, don't make itabout me. It's about well, you
know what, today's about you.Because we like to give flowers to our
people that we respect. And wewatched growth. You know what I'm saying.
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You know, you know, Imean you got history. I watched
you grow from a you know,puppy to a dog. You know what
I'm talking about, man, Soyou know what? And I want to
salute you for that, man,because Bro, I watched you when you
was like trying to figure out whatyou go. First she was rapping you
had you still got a little flowright, got a little flow right,
little flow. First she was rappingMan. I don't I don't love it
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no more. You don't love it, Dough love this movie. I know
you do, because if checks isbetter. But I found my knicks.
You found what you want to do, Bro, and then you took offices.
How did that come about? Whatmade you say you know what,
I'm gonna start acting? It waspaying man, I'm gonna get money,
man. I'm making a thousand aday back then, so I was that
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was money man. But how didyou get on? Know? How did
it selling candy in Hollywood? Imet an agent. I used to go
on her office every day, ora particular building because I sold candy on
Sunset, So Sunset you meet.Everybody got stores, they got shops.
They have building that you don't knowunless you go in there and not gonna
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you know this management, I mean, you know, just different establishments,
bro. And I was trying tosell this woman candy every day. She
told me no, but my consistencyand my resilience. As far as she
gonna boss canny to me one wayanother, she never did. But I
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heard her talking about a commercial MimiMeyer, Angel City Talent. And when
she got off the phone, Iinquired, what you do commercials? She
was like, no, I'm anAsian. I represent actors to do commercial.
Wow. I was like an agent. That's would everybody be telling me
I need an Asian? I needan Asian? I need as Wow?
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Who do you get an agent froma live man? Wos Look at that
right place, white time, whiteheart, white mom. Wow, look
at that so open over door.I know you're telling me that, like
when you when everybody else is pressing, let me get this second your hand
and let's do that that you waslike, Nah, literally, I'm gonna
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sell candy and I'm gonna make abusiness out of that. Real life shout
out to all the people that youknow didn't do what they wanted to or
was forced to do what they didn'twant to do, and um, you
know, I just wasn't having it, like knocking on my dough, You're
gonna be from this gang, You'regonna be from this game. I'm not
gonna be from nowhere. I'm gonnastay who I am. And I got
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dreams that I want to manifest,so that's what I'm focused on. And
then I had family members. Thesepeople that's knocking on my dough basically is
my family because we growing up inthe same Yeah, so why would I
want to I want to do somethingdifferent, and I did some different.
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State my heart stay. God allowedme to keep my heart pure and stay
focused on my dream. Just talkabout that. What did you grow about
South central Los Angeles? Not centralor south laws in the south central,
it is south central. I don'twant nothing knew. I grew up when
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it was time for me to growup and need and learn what I need
at the time I grew up anyand graduating from it. I got the
scores, the wounds and all that. Who don't it's South Central Now they
got South La. I still saysla, but it's a little different.
It ain't as bad as it waswhen it was South No, not at
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all. No, not no saluteto the new one. Everybody got a
unique story, man, But that'sthat's I've never heard anything like that.
Man. That's amazing for you tobe selling as Lady Candy and she ended
up being the agent that sparked yourcareer. I mean, that's incredible and
that's all me me wire love youalways no matter you know what, and
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that's inspiration. If somebody want tojust know, man, you can.
You can make it happen. Man, It's gonna be all kind of different
ways, but you gotta beginning well, you know what I mean, say
you you can make it happen.You can expect for nobody else to make
it app before you'll get mad ifnobody to make it happen for you said
you yes, And that's key.That's key. You gotta want it.
You gotta want. If you don'twant it, it can't happen. Wow,
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it's not. It could happen,but they ain't gonna happen the way
it shoot or cook. Well,I was always told that you're not trying
to win if you ain't cheating,ain't cheating, ain't trying you. I'm
trying to you trying to win.But yeah, yeah you can like,
hey, I'm with it. Icheated a little. Yeah, well maybe
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a life, especially on homework,but it wasn't fuck me bro. So
what was your first film? Tellfrom Tales from the Hood? What do
you say? No, I Ilove I love what man? Real life?
That was the first thing. Thatwas the first one. Man,
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I was seventeen. I wasn't eveneighteen. I was going on eighteen.
So wow. And just to havethat that in that time to be doing
a film. It's not the sameway of doing the film that everybody do
and they don't go in the moviethere. But that film was a little
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different though. That was like ahorror it was. I didn't even see
that back yeah on me, Ididn't. I didn't say, Okay,
this is gonna have a twist.No, you didn't see it because you
you know I didn't even I've readmy part. Yeah, yeah, you
know what I mean. But itcome out and it's a one film working
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with the greatest in the industry atthat time, not realizing and recognizing that
you are with the greatest bro.God is helping your self right now become
who you want to be, rightand hopefully that's an example and the representation
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of the truth, real reality,real shit. So it's fair to sayment
you kind of been growing up inthis thing over the last grew up.
It ain't no fair to say ifit wasn't for everything that I've experienced in
my life, the ups and downthe bad from growing up, and I
couldn't be me if I was doingit another way or going through it another
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And that's something I love about youand I always respect that about you,
especially is that we saw we sawa play out on social media. We
saw a playout. We saw yougoing through your ups and your downs,
and for you to come out andto still be doing what you love to
do and to be good at it. Man, that's one of the reasons
why me and CJ want to getyou on the show and you know,
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and pay how much and salute youand give you your flowers while you hear
robs because we saw that. Youknow, was it hard down some back
from the lows the hearts and thelows or coming back getting inside of the
game. Really no, because Iwasn't expecting myself to take myself about the
game for some other boys. Excusemy language, but happens. It happens.
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And if you don't, if you'renot conscious enough and settled enough to
think before you move, you willmove like I moved at the time.
I'm right like somebody just try tocross me and I'm not from the hand.
Nobody put the hand or nothing likethat. And it's not against nobody
will force somebody just life life.Those balls at you? Yeah, well
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I ain't gonna say ball you hitit or you need that long? Yeah
move according Yeah, and um,you know, man, I should have
thought before I didn't have been.You know, well that that right there,
right, the right there is youknow, a note to give to
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the up and coming inspiring actors orpeople just want to make it. You
know, you're you're, you're,you're saying all the right things, but
most importantly you really believe it inyour heart. But um, let's talk
about just go back to talk aboutthe acting. Yes, you know,
so can I call you service?No, man, we gotta call you
something. Ye see it's real faNo, that's all. It's all love.
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After after tells from the hood aftertells from the hood where you were
you're expecting to do something bigger oror it was just coming to you now
from now, I was expecting youbecause I went to the premier, I
got on on red corpets and limousineand yeah, it's like, oh,
yeah, I'm doing this. Ilove this. Yeah yeah, added I
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did really, especially the after party, like after working, I didn't.
I wasn't thinking that on the sixYeah yeah, I'm just like, man,
I'm let's hurry him and get through. But then you go through the
after port and and then you seethe people's reaction and man, that's it
was amazing man, and your family, You got your fan. I took
my mama bro in the world toshare your successful somebody that's close to your
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real life. Man. You know, Mama, you know it's always been
impressive too, Daddy, dad,Pa, you know it. What's always
been I've been I've been proud ofhim about right is the fact that whatever
role he takes on, it becomesiconic for him. Right. So we
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started with Stacy, right, everybodyno favorite right there? Right there.
You can't teach that right there,that Stacy. Wait, wait what you
say, don't shake my name?My bad? I love it and you
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can say yeah. So let meask you this. We talked a little
bit earlier and you were saying thatwhat you drew from with that character is
like it wouldn't nobody talk to myself? This is no kind of way in
real life. So could you talkabout that a little bit. I'm the
oldest of eight or seven. Igot seven siblings. Well, let me
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make sure I got five sisters andtwo brothers years and then me, ye
yes, my daddy got two daughtersand me with my well another woman of
course, the two daughters. Butme, I'm with my mama and my
mother has five right, maryhillis Andrewand Jonathan. Yeah, so and being
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a big brother. And I gotfive sisters. Man, I'm not I
was hoarding in pain on mine.They got a big period, Ronda,
Mary Phillies to me. Then mysisters jazzach this one of my God blessed
sisters. You know what I mean. It's like who won't mess with them?
Who won't protect him? Nobody gonnamess with him. I'm gonna protect
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him. There we go, andno matter what they called, whatever it
may be, I'm make sure theyknow stay up it is. Don't do
that, dude you supposed to docarry yourself this way and and and and
everything. Oh show, it's calledreal love, real love, real love.
Really. So you drew from thatright there. Man, I took
that to put it in that rolelike Howard Stacy and then the stay si
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oh and I will tell my brothershot out. Yeah. I think thank
god you got a brother. There'sa lot of women don't have brothers,
and men take that as an excuseto be off yes on a week weirdo
ye yeah, and then you loseyour life. Yeah yeah, right.
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Stacy wouldn't have no, yeah exactlyexactly. I don't think none of us
were have no nothing like that.So that role right there, it is
for you to be sold. Forthat to be such an iconic role.
You've still been able to do somany different things, and like you know,
it's like you're not phased by that, Like you're not you're not type
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cast by that or whatever. Youjust do something totally different with your range.
Man, how are you able topull that off? I'm not understanding
at the time I'm doing it,Like what the ramifications are gonna be with
this role or high it's going packedor affect people? Right, I'm not
thinking that. I'm thinking, let'sget this money. I want to give
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my cash and get I want togo home, right, and then it
come out and it's just a giftto keep giving. Bro. You know
we called a real talent gift.Everybody can't do that. You know,
a lot of people time gotta youknow what I'm saying, gotta really going
to They gotta go to go toretreats and all kinds of stuff to get
carried out. Let me bringthe realBut I want to contact. But I
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go through that. I still do. I do that on set when I'm
going like, because I don't readnobody part except mom. Like I don't
want to know about what you gonnado, or what he gonna do,
or what they gonna do. Theygotta do that. I just gotta worry
about what I'm gonna do. Sothat's what our focus on real life.
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With what all that being said,we're about to step away, gonna pay
some bills. We'll be right backwith the dub C c J Max Show
once again. I am dub Iam cj'andre blond and we'll be right back.
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Get it, get it. Hecan't be boys. Shit, I got
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I am CJ Mac and I amdub C and we're still here with my
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pot. The man little up alittle scene that is so man. We
were talking earlier about some of thefilms you've been in, man, especially
The Wood, you know what Imean? So from there, what was
next? I did The Wood andI did a Sunset Port Sunset flood Time
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is yeah, it's trying to getlives. Terrence Howard Federal Star means,
I mean you jumped, you jumpedin and just kept going. Bro,
that's amazing. Well, when youwin, God's tumble. He gonna keep
you going. You're gonna till heclean you and then let you out on
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the other side. Wow, comeon, I love that, man.
I love that. So then threestrikes. I didn't know none of this
was gonna happen. I just wasdoing it from the cessity. I like
the money, man. Hey,I mean I got a fan my mama.
Wow, So let me ask youthat. That's let's talk about that.
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So a lot of people say,you know, don't don't have the
money involved in it, that yougot to be you know what I'm saying,
just the art form and into that, and it's not how are you
able to do both? So well, like you getting the money, but
at the same time you well,I'm getting the ass in or the money.
I'm not getting the executive producer money. Right, So that's what the
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thing. Yeah, yeah, keywordyet thank you? Right. And it's
a difference, you know, becausefrom somebody having nothing to getting what you
think is something a movie man andmake you like really think you hit the
gold mine. But the motherfucker's behindis the gold mine. They got all
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they're getting all the gold from yourtalent, if that makes sense. But
it does but is that your motivation? No? Money, never, it
was not my to do movies wasmy dream? Okay. I didn't give
care if I got money or notat first, But then once I seen
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the first check from Tells in theHood, I was like, hold on,
I'm in the wrong field. Youget it. You get this right
the day to do that, todo what you love, right, it's
called a passion, right, youknow. My brother, my brother tunes
rest in peace to you, alwayssay that if we wasn't getting paid for
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this, we'll be doing it forfree. Now we wouldn't be doing a
photime for free, but we'll bedoing it for free because it was a
passion. So acting was was yourpassion? He just said it bro or
anything I love, that's absolutely whatit would. I really had a dream
at a young age. I wantto be in movie. I will be
in movie. I'm gonna make movies. How was the question? How?
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I didn't know. I just thatI would do it. I would do
it, period. I will doit. And God just kept me kept
my heart right. As long asI kept well, I kept my heart
right. Yeah, as long asmy heart was right and I was doing
what I was supposed to do toget out there, maneuver and make an
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honest dollar. Yeah, he openedup other avenues for me to achieve my
dream. Well, I tell everybodyme and see jobs talk about about taking
advantage of our opportunity instead of takingit for granted. So many opportunities come
through, you know when you're growingup, and it seemed like as you
get older, them doors open andclose a lot faster, and it's less
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opportunities out there, like yeah,yeah, yeah, real you took advantage
of it. One it's like thatand then the other one. I want
to relax and I see the picturethe greater and that's just life, like
you're saying in general. Bro,heard you speak on your mother quite a
few times. Did your mother stillliving? My mother is ain't She's the
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goddess of my life. That's mybaby. She is alive, she's well.
She is a grandmother, a greatgrandmother. Wow. And she you
know, she she did. Shehad her issues growing up in the eighties,
you know. And if you wasout here in la you know everybody.
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Yeah, so she got over thatgot us all back because I was
in false home. You all,my state separated my family, couldn't you
know struggles at that time which stayimplemented, and I don't want to get
into that, but at least weknow now, not not the deal with
and who to deal with and whatto recognize from dealing with it. I
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recognize my mother resilience, strength,love for her children. Yeah, oh
my God, shout out. Shoutout the moms to every g out there,
every g out there who got themoms is still here or moms resting
in peace. You know, justbe thankful that you had or that you
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got a mama in your life,because there a lot of people don't realize
we mama boys. I'm a mamaboy, and I ain't talking about on
the sauce. Sh'm talking daddy boytoo. Though Daddy put the g stuff
in it, Mama put the loveand the compacion and the patience and you
got other big things. You know. Daddy was the writer. Though Daddy
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was like, man, I sawmy daddy knocked people's down, like knock
knocked down, down, down,you're not here. I don't think he
would ever showed me nothing like that. But when it came to my stepmother
and my step family, like youknow that he had that even pulling up
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nine young men and my daddy fromcom So. I stayed on Larning Rod
shout out to Conk and larning driveWayney Rood develop went to school real life.
Man, my daddy, I sawhim hop out the car one time.
Man and the daddy one of thechildren that the mother was down there
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in her face in my stepmother flake. They popped off the niggas on the
ground. Oh yeah, you gottagott example, especially when Conny yours.
Yeah, oh yeah. I'd havebeen with CJ quite a few times.
Yeah, and man, I'll benext time and I'm going next time.
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I love it. I love itThree strikes right, so yeah, so
so the movie three strikes. Dude, you gotta realize that we have and
you know, a lot of timesthe movies that people, you know,
be claiming, proclaiming to be thebig movies, to be the movies that
be going big time out the DJthanks, you know, going for our
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hood favorites a lot of times bethe ones you don't want to feel.
Lot of people would be sleeping off. Three strikes was funny. It was
funny. It's funny, and Idon't think, uh that is incorrect,
that is absolutely true. It wasfunny. If you get bad, if
I can, if you hadn't layingthe diaper and it was sliding on the
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glass, you can't move because youjust got character wise. Yeah, but
you know what, but it wasfunny, bro, But it was funny.
It was funny, Bro, andhe was in character. It was
funny, Bro, And you looklike somebody that didn't want to be in
that. So yeah, man,you put you played the road like crazy,
though, Bro, Like you knowwhat I'm saying. You was writing
a pocket. It was hilarious.I was making movies. Uh, I
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was doing at least a movie inyears. So every fucking year, excuse
my land. Every year I washaving something new come on. So I
wanted to keep that going, youknow what I mean? Like, Man,
I'm yeah, yeah. I auditionedfor it, got the Park,
audition for it, got the funHow did you find out about the audition?
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But how did you? I knewthat was in there, but I
didn't care. Man. I wantedI wanted the money. Man, did
you know did you know DJ Poopbefore there? No? I met him
audition. Wow. No, Ididn't know DJ Poop before then, but
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I guess I had something he wantedme to play that role, man,
because if it wasn't for him,I wouldn't have got the park. Yeah.
No, I was super funny though, man. Yeah, I bet
it's kind of like, but itain't as funny ass Friday. It was.
No, it wasn't funny Friday,but it was funny. It was
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fun It was the original class.You're like, yeah, yeah, I
reacted though when you was in there, you know you have got shot in
the ass the where you got Ireally got shot in the ass after that,
bro, after doing them, Wow, Yeah, that's true, because
I stabbed the nigga lockeddown, Yeah, and wanted to really stablished somebody in
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real life and going to prison,going naha something twenty days wow. And
then in three strikes I get shotin the ass. And after I did
that, I wanted getting shot threetimes and one of them when he here,
when he here came through there andwas stuck in my ass for like
thirteen years, got it came outin the pin right before the road in
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twenty eleven. To tell me youthat had to get that sling again,
No, I never had. Evenwhen I got shot in the ass.
They just gave me more fine thatshit feel better than anything. And I
was like, give me another shot. At that. The doctor showing me
asked rays, like, boy,they almost blew your balls off. I
had a scab oney there, everythinglike you got lucky you are. I'm
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like, man, look I didn'tthink of that at that time, and
now I'm looking back, I'm like, man, that's a lot. So
you know what, you know what'simpressive. So I talked to you right
after you got out, Yes,sir, And then I looked up and
he was in this huge movie withSean Pin. I said, I just
dude, do this shit. Man, he just got on. I read
for it and you and you calledme. You're supposed to put me down.
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You said, I'm gonna get youon. What happened? Well,
I was still I was still tryingto get on and see what happened.
I ain't forgotten about you, mistermat like I remember everything. I said.
Many man just got out and heacted like it wasn't nothing. No
ye hample to get back through this. And I looked at this huge movie,
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but my hand wasn't big enough toplay that's cool. I'm just proud
of you for being able to comeright home and jumping something that huge,
said Dave, I didn't even knowwho was in it, bro, I
was working with Spain and I don'teven know he was in I just booked
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the part once they said you gotthe Park, then they told me who
was in the mother. I'm onthe Paramount Lot. We got Sean kim
all these huge actors on that.Well, ain't he Anthony Mackie brother?
And then he didn't blew the fuckup. You know, it's just like
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doing if I go back like SunsetPark and then I'm working with Terrence Howard,
Fragile Store talent hearers, Melinda Williams, uh Antoine tanor all the people
that's relevant right now in the movieindustry and yourself. I mean, you
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know, I humble, but stillI'm I can't wait to go. Yeah.
I'm gonna keep my mouth close.Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, get get this, getthat, get that. Yeah, it
is what cog real life. Andif it ain't got this pack on it,
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it ain't mom, it ain't foodgag fucked up beyond all recognition is
that it No, that's food bar, food bar. I learned that on
that movie. Ye know, itwas the other dude the twin. They
beat up the niggas in prison.Uh. It was called U fucked up
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beyond right. It was all recognition. It was. It was the milk,
not mel gifting but Sevestisloan. Yeah. Uh oh oh, I know
the boy Michael something, Kirk,Kirk Kirk, somebody like that. We're
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gonna figure this out. Come backfrom a break, y'all, because right
now we stot whatever it is.Yeah, yeah, yea. We got
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worth Thick, we got west Sideto Worth, we got hoodies like that
worth Sill, got work for sale. We got work for sale, we
got merch for sale. We're atC and CJMC dot com. Get it,
get it, you can be boys. Shit, I got a bit
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hit. Welcome back to the Dumbc c J. Max Shaw wants to
get I am dumb and I'm CJ. You know what Wait wait wait,
tain't on cash, Tain't going cashRussell Russell man and mail gifted man.
No, So that's we found.I had to get that off, all
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right. We back were back onthat man. So look, man,
he'd have been in some movies.Man, He's been in a lot of
movies. Man. And like Isaid, I'm so impressed that you could
just come back and jump in likethat man, and then snow Fall.
Let's get the snow fall man.How did you get that role? Man?
Let's talk about that. I wouldI would love to see that audition.
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Take John Singleton rut Hey Man,real life man. That's I can't
even speak on that because mister JohnSingleton man is an angel. He still
he didn't, he didn't came backprobably already another body. I love that
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man. Man. He opened upa He gave me opportunity to so to
continue doing what I loved and whatI have a passion for with no judgment.
And that's hard to come by.Bro, that's rare. And the
brother, you know, he's like, Man, I'm not a role.
I want you to read for itand I hope you do good. That's
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all I needed to hear. Idon't give the role was did you what
did you read for? Originally?Scully? Oh? Originally I don't even
remember the character because I wasn't.That was like a few years prior to
it coming out. I was imprisonedwhen uh I did a violation like thirty
two months with half so I seenit. The same move the sow I
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read for is now own and I'min prison. I know how to make
you feel like here, we like, are you serious back in this motherfucker
for what you just did teen years? Why are you back? I don't
even know you had done the violationy'all did carrying a knife, Yeah,
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I keep a knife. No shiplegal, I ain't on Parollau pro back.
I walked out, went to infront of police just like this.
They came real, we love y'all. Bro. They came the one you
got violated, Oh that was akitchen knife. It was a little longer.
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Two of them I have too.So so let's get back to the
story. Man. So you was, you was locked down, you saw
it, you bounced back, andI was like, on my mom,
I'm gonna get on that ship becauseI knew I had a relationship for a
meeting. I knew John right,and he told me on the set of
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the Wood. He came up thereand I met him the first time near
I got something for you, Andit wasn't snowfall. It probably was,
baby boy. I was supposed tobeing that ship on the prison. I
missed a lot of things wanted toprison. Oh yeah, and thank god
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the ones that still had an interesting, had an interesting when you got out
right, Wow, that's a blessingin itself, Like I said, Man,
that's realized. That's a whole lotof getting blessed right, going in,
coming out, a lot of grading, bro, a lot of gras.
None of my life in my hand. My life is controlled and ordained
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by the universe. Anything I needand want, so long as it's right
and I'm doing what I'm one thatit's gonna be done. Basically you handling
in your business. And see Iwas, you know, I've been privileged
enough to work on snow Far witha quite a few of the actors and
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seeing this guy come through. Itwas funny because me and John was talking
and I said, you got DeAndre. He said yeah, he said the
dope. That's all he said.Yeah he doped. He doped. That's
all he said, was yeah,he done. And to see you there
doing your thing in the in thewhole cast, we already know everybody know
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you know. Let you be toldon God on my life. The people,
my co Yeah, yeah, yeah, Broy. They gave me so
much insight from behind the scenes aboutJohn and how he thought right of me.
Particulate. Yeah, I was like, what humble me so greatly?
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Bro, Like I I'm not Igonna do anything to tornish or mess up
this man's ideas. And or tosee you in action, you know,
when we're sitting back there and we'refilming, to see you in action,
to see you go like CJ isreally impressed me too by the way you
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just zone in, yeah, andzone out the player a character like Scully.
You know, what's the preparation forthat right there? Because Scully Scully
so unpredictable mask exactly because I thinka little that is in all of us,
like unpredictability. And what would youdo if if this was forced up
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on you. I'm not gonna thinktwice about. I'm gonna handle what I
need to handle, and Scully gonnahandle what he need to handle. But
if it's something he could think through, he gonna think through it. Is
it worth it or is it not? If it ain't worth it, everybody
gotta go right, does that makeif it ain't worth it, we're gonna
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lead that way it is, andand let's let's let's get to the next
plateau. It's funny that he's sooff the hook, but yet here is
a voice of reason. Definitely,that's great. You know what I'm saying,
scutty off the chair. I believethat it's a lot of people that
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we probably know and see that didn'thave a voice of reason and they're no
longer here. Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
that nigga was the nigga and yeah, now ye not hearing no more.
So reason is the key, evenif even if you that nigga, or
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you don't have no love me,or you don't get fun about and I'm
like, stup, don't have reason? You got children, you got family,
you got mothers, you got brothers, you got sisions. Think of
that ship before you do what youdo to mess it up. Take it
all away from you now you don'task right, you got that position where
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you didn't been taking away from everything. Man, we're making a rash decision,
and you know what I'm saying.So you definitely understand because of that,
making an indecisive, unrational didn't thinknothing through, just move right.
That's why I could carry a knifeeverywhere. Go a knife. It's not
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a gun. If I had agun, I'll probably been shooting a lot
of people just for fun. Ona freeway driving away, they dropped the
north fence. I'm not no,no, but I'm being I'm not I
can't throw a knife, fench.But and it's but at home, that's
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a different the story. Yeah,you know, you got the right to
protect anything you move with whatever youchoose. So understanding that, knowing that
when I move, I move acourting like I'm going here to handle this.
I ain't got a worry about this. I'm bringing whoever going my peoples
that are, let's go and wetake care of it and it's over after
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that. If it's something happened inbetween that, we got the man to
do that. KG. You know, I ain't gonna say no other name.
Yeah, you know what I mean, shu K. So look,
man, so do you have toone thing? And y'all for give me.
I'm kind of stuck on that characterbecause that's one of my favorite roles.
Yah. Yeah, that's my favoritecharacters. Right. So do you
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he's so different from everybody else inthe show, schulge that character is so
different. Do you have to gosomewhere like by yourself to get into that
character away from everybody else because he'sso different? Or how does that work.
Do you just really just dig intobeing him? Actually? First,
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remember I told you I'll read mycharacter. I don't worry about nobody else
peer whatever they're doing. I mayknow their lines to lead me. Yeah,
but other than that, man,it's uh, I do like have
to go inside myself to find Likewhen I look like the character Scully lost
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his daughter and had to meet hisbaby mother at the hospital. I have
never you know, thank god,lost nobody like that. You know,
But how did I prepare for that? Because imagine even imagining that type of
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loss is heavy. Wow, it'ssuper heavy, bro. So I go
in there and just do that,gain that and don't say nothing until it's
time to do it. When theysay it's time to work, then I'm
right. We're all talent. Andthat's what it looks like to me,
that that that you have to gothrough that kind of process because that character
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is so deep like that characters,I love it man. Like I said,
once again, man, you putoff another iconic role man only you
could do. Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that. But I've seen
every every every character inside snow Fall. I've seen everybody take that role and
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dig into it and put their twiston it, especially you. It was
Scully. I've seen that. I'vebeen sitting back there and just watching when
they say action, how you youknow something might meant to be and I
don't even know you watching me.Yeah, I'm happy, Yeah, something
something met Nick. You might thinkthat it's gonna be said a certain way
and you'll go another way, goanother way with it, and that we
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didn't set back there behind the multipletimes and we're like wow, wow,
wow, which is universe? Yeah, And I want to ask your questions
since we're speak on us now far, are you surprised the way that it's
being we talked about it earlier,the way it's being received right now.
You know, the beginning, peoplewere saying, you know, it's cool,
it's cool. In the middle,they're like, I'm getting up on
it now that we're announcing that thisis the last season. Are you surprised
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right now on how many people areupset, mad, they don't want it
to go. I don't I'm notsurprised, mad or none of that.
But what I would say according tothem to that is that's like life,
bro, motherfucker. Don't cry andappreciate you to you gone that's deep speak,
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and now it's going everybody feeling it. They were feeling it in a
halfway morning. Yeah, you know, but it took time to build to
reach that level. Yes, andBro, it's just it's just a work
or thing. Can't be duplicated,not at all. And that's what that's
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something that I'm I'm glad that yousaid that it can't be duplicated. You
know, it can't be duplicated.I mean, somebody could come out tell
their own version, but this oneright here, it can't be duplicated.
And we heard the story before,of course from you know, Rick Ross,
Freeway, Ricky Ross. Yeah,but this John told me out of
his own mouth all respect to Freeway, yeah, Rick, Yeah, Ricky
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Roll. He wasn't only dope dealer. Bro, you ain't the only dope
dealer in Los Angeles, California,let alone California or LA. You had
big time niggas that was dope dealing. So don't act like you the only
one was winning. Yeah, Butme being us being from South Central,
I will acknowledge the big homie,you know, Yeah, I and give
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him his because I because he wasthe closest to this right here, that
we know of you know to me, Yeah, but that don't have to
be but yeah story. Yeah.But at the end of the day though,
I wouldn't want to be a partof that, yes, yeah,
yeah, I definitely. I don'twant to be a part of nothing that
took my people to him. Definitely, definitely, definitely definitely, But you
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know I not act. Yeah,but the way I'm acting then I didn't
have nothing to do with good answer. Yeah. No. The way that
is being received though, Man,I'm happy, and that's credited to individuals
like yourself coming and putting in theirwork right there, you know, and
you know which brings me right nowto you as an individual off the screen
(43:37):
right now, I see on socialmedia you'll be getting it in with your
with your spreads following me, y'all, don't follow for you know what I'm
saying. But I was what whatbrought about that right there? Was it
something that you're just loving me?Didn't didn't think I was gonna ever be
(43:57):
able to eat other than noodles becauseof prison. Nigga, if I ever
make it out of here, I'mjust I'm gonna be the most I love
women so much now it just putsthem in a whole different perspective, how
important and life giving they are.Yeah, I wouldn't give your mind and
not I love you that. Yeah, but like that man, like not
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having it being taken away from whatyou're accustomed to and to have to start
over, like read program your whole. I learned respect, I learned patience,
I learned love, recognition from whois your people, from who is
(44:45):
not? Man in prison. Thatshit taught me all that brood from prison
because nigga wasn't even good. Youhad noodles. I thought both five six
cases a month if all it cangood? That you can only do so
much with him? Is that wayhe's going to be a super creative like
(45:06):
you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I didn't do it kind of my
house with each bread. All right, Well look here we go. Maybe
that's why we don't have a spreadout, spread out real life. Yeah
yeah, and I guarantee you hadto taste testers and we're gonna okay,
who heard, right? Yeah?I mean for those now you got so
(45:27):
don't you don't know what we're talkingabout? DeAndre be going hard on on
his I G and on social huckingit up. Anybody, anybody want to
fade on spread. I'm going againstLet's go and the winner game. I'm
coming to host the next dove CC J Max. I don't know about
all that shit. Yeah, I'mgonna win. He don't know about it
(45:50):
because he know he's gonna look.Yeah, I don't be right there.
Whatever whatever, I love it.I'm they voted. It was seven to
nine. I love it. Ihope I predict this shit. I love
it. I love it, man, So what else you got going on?
(46:12):
Brother? Stay cy og? Theyshout out the high Port gas station
in Vegas. Though real life,man, my brother came up with the
logo. Then he got the gaspump with the smoking marijuana, and then
you got gas and uh you know, Stacy man, I said, like
an album about smoking. We Imade a whole strength. Now you can
(46:36):
pick this shit up, go toyour nearest up dispensary and dispense yourself all
you want. We had a dumbin real life to see why the thinking
big man you got he got sideof the box. Thinkside the box.
(46:57):
I love life, stay cy og, uh diabetic friendly because I'm a dibbetter
what and I'll take in some andI've been doing that for like twenty years.
Wow. See we get we getthe wrong depression a lot of times
when we think about diabetics. Youknow, been higher quite a bit.
But you know a lot of peoplethink that when you're a die better,
(47:20):
you just this big old fat,obese you know, a person. People
some people don't realize that, youknow. And these are the different things
that no reason I'm speaking on itis because our people, you know,
And these are the different things thatby you being someone in the public figure,
I mean being a public figure,someone in the public eye, as
a public figure, it's good tosee somebody on your level speak on that
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and create something that's you know,that's that's got free. We go to
different restaurants or you know, andsee what they have the all for diabetics,
right, that's not gonna raises sugarright too much? Right, and
you know, check the sugar beforewe eat that. What we know the
(48:06):
numbers come on and and after wecheck. Yah. So to see what
you do did it or did wasit friendly or was it well? To
see you out there, see youout there doing good, surviving that right
there and creating products that's you know, that's diabetes free. That's that's amazing.
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Man. Yes, sir, youknow a lot of people. That's
why we had you on the show. It's so much about this brother right
here. People just don't they don'tget a chance to see or no other
than what we see on the screenwith these kind of girls. Thank you
man. In real life, theydon't know, y'all. I just I
just this is my first time.Didn't learned the real brothers that I grew
(48:49):
up listening to and was motivated byand made me say, you get your
ass selbduced man. I thank forI'm from we you thank you well,
y'all from la is the best Iknow OFFICI anybody we just saying, you
know, we just no. Wegot player partners and you know, partners
(49:16):
from everywhere around the world, butin no place like home. We're gonna
ain't no place like huh. Wifewith that girl name clicked her damn here
and she had everything she was.We finally got a name right to that's
my mama's name. Can we camecome on? That's why we created Kansas
(49:39):
too. Oh okay, that's mama. Look, that's why we created this
platform right here, so you know, cats can come on. Feel comfortable
kick the real share game, youknow, with all that being saying,
Man, we thank you, welove you, we give you your flowers
right now. You're one of ours, man, and we want you to.
We wish you much, you know, continual success. We look forward
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to seeing you. Gotta thu.No, man, it's all out.
That's apprec look for to see realyou look for to seeing you and bigger
and better things. Man, youknow ain't doing that thing. Keep aspiring.
Thank We're gonna we're gonna spread offtoo. Yeah, y'all gonna have
to spread off and we go,y'all see you. Look, I'm gonna
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be sitting here next tide. Lookdumb, gonna be like spread better he
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J dub c c J Maxshall,What up? Y'all? Welcome to another
episode of the dub sing CJ Maxshall. Once again, I am dub scene
and I am c J Mac.What's up? Bro? Bro? What's
up? Bro? You feel Ifeel good? Man? I bossibility better
man, I'll be you cal man, you want to be moon walking back?
You know what I'm saying. Wegotta do, We gotta be done,
(00:45):
manulgare Man. It's snowing again inLos Angeles. U huh you know
what? What day? Man?We got another special guest. Like I
said every week, but this oneis true to my heart. Man,
this is my guy. Uh.You don't really need no introduction, man,
y'are all knowing? You know whatI'm saying. Yond Dreve Bro,
(01:11):
mister Duve c mister C J.Mc man, this is one of my
dreams come true. Man with thegreatest man of legnan b Bro. We
really appreciate that. Man. You'rea legend. Bro bro y'all Landen,
you know what, don't make itabout me. It's about well, you
know what, today's about you.Because we like to give flowers to our
people that we respect. And wewatched growth. You know what I'm saying.
(01:34):
You know, you know, Imean you got history. I watched
you grow from a you know,puppy to a dog. You know what
I'm talking about, man, Soyou know what? And I want to
salute you for that, man,because Bro, I watched you when you
was like trying to figure out whatyou go. First she was rapping you
had you still got a little flowright, got a little flow right,
little flow. First she was rappingMan. I don't I don't love it
(01:56):
no more. You don't love it, Dough love this movie. I know
you do, because if checks isbetter. But I found my knicks.
You found what you want to do, Bro, and then you took offices.
How did that come about? Whatmade you say you know what,
I'm gonna start acting? It waspaying man, I'm gonna get money,
man. I'm making a thousand aday back then, so I was that
(02:20):
was money man. But how didyou get on? Know? How did
it selling candy in Hollywood? Imet an agent. I used to go
on her office every day, ora particular building because I sold candy on
Sunset, So Sunset you meet.Everybody got stores, they got shops.
They have building that you don't knowunless you go in there and not gonna
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you know this management, I mean, you know, just different establishments,
bro. And I was trying tosell this woman candy every day. She
told me no, but my consistencyand my resilience. As far as she
gonna boss canny to me one wayanother, she never did. But I
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heard her talking about a commercial MimiMeyer, Angel City Talent. And when
she got off the phone, Iinquired, what you do commercials? She
was like, no, I'm anAsian. I represent actors to do commercial.
Wow. I was like an agent. That's would everybody be telling me
I need an Asian? I needan Asian? I need as Wow?
(03:25):
Who do you get an agent froma live man? Wos Look at that
right place, white time, whiteheart, white mom. Wow, look
at that so open over door.I know you're telling me that, like
when you when everybody else is pressing, let me get this second your hand
and let's do that that you waslike, Nah, literally, I'm gonna
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sell candy and I'm gonna make abusiness out of that. Real life shout
out to all the people that youknow didn't do what they wanted to or
was forced to do what they didn'twant to do, and um, you
know, I just wasn't having it, like knocking on my dough, You're
gonna be from this gang, You'regonna be from this game. I'm not
gonna be from nowhere. I'm gonnastay who I am. And I got
(04:11):
dreams that I want to manifest,so that's what I'm focused on. And
then I had family members. Thesepeople that's knocking on my dough basically is
my family because we growing up inthe same Yeah, so why would I
want to I want to do somethingdifferent, and I did some different.
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State my heart stay. God allowedme to keep my heart pure and stay
focused on my dream. Just talkabout that. What did you grow about
South central Los Angeles? Not centralor south laws in the south central,
it is south central. I don'twant nothing knew. I grew up when
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it was time for me to growup and need and learn what I need
at the time I grew up anyand graduating from it. I got the
scores, the wounds and all that. Who don't it's South Central Now they
got South La. I still saysla, but it's a little different.
It ain't as bad as it waswhen it was South No, not at
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all. No, not no saluteto the new one. Everybody got a
unique story, man, But that'sthat's I've never heard anything like that.
Man. That's amazing for you tobe selling as Lady Candy and she ended
up being the agent that sparked yourcareer. I mean, that's incredible and
that's all me me wire love youalways no matter you know what, and
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that's inspiration. If somebody want tojust know, man, you can.
You can make it happen. Man, It's gonna be all kind of different
ways, but you gotta beginning well, you know what I mean, say
you you can make it happen.You can expect for nobody else to make
it app before you'll get mad ifnobody to make it happen for you said
you yes, And that's key.That's key. You gotta want it.
You gotta want. If you don'twant it, it can't happen. Wow,
(06:05):
it's not. It could happen,but they ain't gonna happen the way
it shoot or cook. Well,I was always told that you're not trying
to win if you ain't cheating,ain't cheating, ain't trying you. I'm
trying to you trying to win.But yeah, yeah you can like,
hey, I'm with it. Icheated a little. Yeah, well maybe
(06:28):
a life, especially on homework,but it wasn't fuck me bro. So
what was your first film? Tellfrom Tales from the Hood? What do
you say? No, I Ilove I love what man? Real life?
That was the first thing. Thatwas the first one. Man,
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I was seventeen. I wasn't eveneighteen. I was going on eighteen.
So wow. And just to havethat that in that time to be doing
a film. It's not the sameway of doing the film that everybody do
and they don't go in the moviethere. But that film was a little
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different though. That was like ahorror it was. I didn't even see
that back yeah on me, Ididn't. I didn't say, Okay,
this is gonna have a twist.No, you didn't see it because you
you know I didn't even I've readmy part. Yeah, yeah, you
know what I mean. But itcome out and it's a one film working
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with the greatest in the industry atthat time, not realizing and recognizing that
you are with the greatest bro.God is helping your self right now become
who you want to be, rightand hopefully that's an example and the representation
(07:51):
of the truth, real reality,real shit. So it's fair to sayment
you kind of been growing up inthis thing over the last grew up.
It ain't no fair to say ifit wasn't for everything that I've experienced in
my life, the ups and downthe bad from growing up, and I
couldn't be me if I was doingit another way or going through it another
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And that's something I love about youand I always respect that about you,
especially is that we saw we sawa play out on social media. We
saw a playout. We saw yougoing through your ups and your downs,
and for you to come out andto still be doing what you love to
do and to be good at it. Man, that's one of the reasons
why me and CJ want to getyou on the show and you know,
(08:35):
and pay how much and salute youand give you your flowers while you hear
robs because we saw that. Youknow, was it hard down some back
from the lows the hearts and thelows or coming back getting inside of the
game. Really no, because Iwasn't expecting myself to take myself about the
game for some other boys. Excusemy language, but happens. It happens.
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And if you don't, if you'renot conscious enough and settled enough to
think before you move, you willmove like I moved at the time.
I'm right like somebody just try tocross me and I'm not from the hand.
Nobody put the hand or nothing likethat. And it's not against nobody
will force somebody just life life.Those balls at you? Yeah, well
(09:28):
I ain't gonna say ball you hitit or you need that long? Yeah
move according Yeah, and um,you know, man, I should have
thought before I didn't have been.You know, well that that right there,
right, the right there is youknow, a note to give to
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the up and coming inspiring actors orpeople just want to make it. You
know, you're you're, you're,you're saying all the right things, but
most importantly you really believe it inyour heart. But um, let's talk
about just go back to talk aboutthe acting. Yes, you know,
so can I call you service?No, man, we gotta call you
something. Ye see it's real faNo, that's all. It's all love.
(10:15):
After after tells from the hood aftertells from the hood where you were
you're expecting to do something bigger oror it was just coming to you now
from now, I was expecting youbecause I went to the premier, I
got on on red corpets and limousineand yeah, it's like, oh,
yeah, I'm doing this. Ilove this. Yeah yeah, added I
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did really, especially the after party, like after working, I didn't.
I wasn't thinking that on the sixYeah yeah, I'm just like, man,
I'm let's hurry him and get through. But then you go through the
after port and and then you seethe people's reaction and man, that's it
was amazing man, and your family, You got your fan. I took
my mama bro in the world toshare your successful somebody that's close to your
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real life. Man. You know, Mama, you know it's always been
impressive too, Daddy, dad,Pa, you know it. What's always
been I've been I've been proud ofhim about right is the fact that whatever
role he takes on, it becomesiconic for him. Right. So we
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started with Stacy, right, everybodyno favorite right there? Right there.
You can't teach that right there,that Stacy. Wait, wait what you
say, don't shake my name?My bad? I love it and you
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can say yeah. So let meask you this. We talked a little
bit earlier and you were saying thatwhat you drew from with that character is
like it wouldn't nobody talk to myself? This is no kind of way in
real life. So could you talkabout that a little bit. I'm the
oldest of eight or seven. Igot seven siblings. Well, let me
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make sure I got five sisters andtwo brothers years and then me, ye
yes, my daddy got two daughtersand me with my well another woman of
course, the two daughters. Butme, I'm with my mama and my
mother has five right, maryhillis Andrewand Jonathan. Yeah, so and being
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a big brother. And I gotfive sisters. Man, I'm not I
was hoarding in pain on mine.They got a big period, Ronda,
Mary Phillies to me. Then mysisters jazzach this one of my God blessed
sisters. You know what I mean. It's like who won't mess with them?
Who won't protect him? Nobody gonnamess with him. I'm gonna protect
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him. There we go, andno matter what they called, whatever it
may be, I'm make sure theyknow stay up it is. Don't do
that, dude you supposed to docarry yourself this way and and and and
everything. Oh show, it's calledreal love, real love, real love.
Really. So you drew from thatright there. Man, I took
that to put it in that rolelike Howard Stacy and then the stay si
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oh and I will tell my brothershot out. Yeah. I think thank
god you got a brother. There'sa lot of women don't have brothers,
and men take that as an excuseto be off yes on a week weirdo
ye yeah, and then you loseyour life. Yeah yeah, right.
(13:41):
Stacy wouldn't have no, yeah exactlyexactly. I don't think none of us
were have no nothing like that.So that role right there, it is
for you to be sold. Forthat to be such an iconic role.
You've still been able to do somany different things, and like you know,
it's like you're not phased by that, Like you're not you're not type
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cast by that or whatever. Youjust do something totally different with your range.
Man, how are you able topull that off? I'm not understanding
at the time I'm doing it,Like what the ramifications are gonna be with
this role or high it's going packedor affect people? Right, I'm not
thinking that. I'm thinking, let'sget this money. I want to give
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my cash and get I want togo home, right, and then it
come out and it's just a giftto keep giving. Bro. You know
we called a real talent gift.Everybody can't do that. You know,
a lot of people time gotta youknow what I'm saying, gotta really going
to They gotta go to go toretreats and all kinds of stuff to get
carried out. Let me bringthe realBut I want to contact. But I
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go through that. I still do. I do that on set when I'm
going like, because I don't readnobody part except mom. Like I don't
want to know about what you gonnado, or what he gonna do,
or what they gonna do. Theygotta do that. I just gotta worry
about what I'm gonna do. Sothat's what our focus on real life.
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With what all that being said,we're about to step away, gonna pay
some bills. We'll be right backwith the dub C c J Max Show
once again. I am dub Iam cj'andre blond and we'll be right back.
We got worth Sill, we gotwest Side to Worth, we got
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worth Sill, got work for sale, we got work for sale, we
got merch for sale. We're atdub C and CJ Mac dot com.
Get it, get it. Hecan't be boys. Shit, I got
a bit hit. Welcome back tothe dub C and CJ Max Show.
I am CJ Mac and I amdub C and we're still here with my
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pot. The man little up alittle scene that is so man. We
were talking earlier about some of thefilms you've been in, man, especially
The Wood, you know what Imean? So from there, what was
next? I did The Wood andI did a Sunset Port Sunset flood Time
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is yeah, it's trying to getlives. Terrence Howard Federal Star means,
I mean you jumped, you jumpedin and just kept going. Bro,
that's amazing. Well, when youwin, God's tumble. He gonna keep
you going. You're gonna till heclean you and then let you out on
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the other side. Wow, comeon, I love that, man.
I love that. So then threestrikes. I didn't know none of this
was gonna happen. I just wasdoing it from the cessity. I like
the money, man. Hey,I mean I got a fan my mama.
Wow, So let me ask youthat. That's let's talk about that.
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So a lot of people say,you know, don't don't have the
money involved in it, that yougot to be you know what I'm saying,
just the art form and into that, and it's not how are you
able to do both? So well, like you getting the money, but
at the same time you well,I'm getting the ass in or the money.
I'm not getting the executive producer money. Right, So that's what the
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thing. Yeah, yeah, keywordyet thank you? Right. And it's
a difference, you know, becausefrom somebody having nothing to getting what you
think is something a movie man andmake you like really think you hit the
gold mine. But the motherfucker's behindis the gold mine. They got all
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they're getting all the gold from yourtalent, if that makes sense. But
it does but is that your motivation? No? Money, never, it
was not my to do movies wasmy dream? Okay. I didn't give
care if I got money or notat first, But then once I seen
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the first check from Tells in theHood, I was like, hold on,
I'm in the wrong field. Youget it. You get this right
the day to do that, todo what you love, right, it's
called a passion, right, youknow. My brother, my brother tunes
rest in peace to you, alwayssay that if we wasn't getting paid for
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this, we'll be doing it forfree. Now we wouldn't be doing a
photime for free, but we'll bedoing it for free because it was a
passion. So acting was was yourpassion? He just said it bro or
anything I love, that's absolutely whatit would. I really had a dream
at a young age. I wantto be in movie. I will be
in movie. I'm gonna make movies. How was the question? How?
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I didn't know. I just thatI would do it. I would do
it, period. I will doit. And God just kept me kept
my heart right. As long asI kept well, I kept my heart
right. Yeah, as long asmy heart was right and I was doing
what I was supposed to do toget out there, maneuver and make an
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honest dollar. Yeah, he openedup other avenues for me to achieve my
dream. Well, I tell everybodyme and see jobs talk about about taking
advantage of our opportunity instead of takingit for granted. So many opportunities come
through, you know when you're growingup, and it seemed like as you
get older, them doors open andclose a lot faster, and it's less
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opportunities out there, like yeah,yeah, yeah, real you took advantage
of it. One it's like thatand then the other one. I want
to relax and I see the picturethe greater and that's just life, like
you're saying in general. Bro,heard you speak on your mother quite a
few times. Did your mother stillliving? My mother is ain't She's the
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goddess of my life. That's mybaby. She is alive, she's well.
She is a grandmother, a greatgrandmother. Wow. And she you
know, she she did. Shehad her issues growing up in the eighties,
you know. And if you wasout here in la you know everybody.
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Yeah, so she got over thatgot us all back because I was
in false home. You all,my state separated my family, couldn't you
know struggles at that time which stayimplemented, and I don't want to get
into that, but at least weknow now, not not the deal with
and who to deal with and whatto recognize from dealing with it. I
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recognize my mother resilience, strength,love for her children. Yeah, oh
my God, shout out. Shoutout the moms to every g out there,
every g out there who got themoms is still here or moms resting
in peace. You know, justbe thankful that you had or that you
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got a mama in your life,because there a lot of people don't realize
we mama boys. I'm a mamaboy, and I ain't talking about on
the sauce. Sh'm talking daddy boytoo. Though Daddy put the g stuff
in it, Mama put the loveand the compacion and the patience and you
got other big things. You know. Daddy was the writer. Though Daddy
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was like, man, I sawmy daddy knocked people's down, like knock
knocked down, down, down,you're not here. I don't think he
would ever showed me nothing like that. But when it came to my stepmother
and my step family, like youknow that he had that even pulling up
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nine young men and my daddy fromcom So. I stayed on Larning Rod
shout out to Conk and larning driveWayney Rood develop went to school real life.
Man, my daddy, I sawhim hop out the car one time.
Man and the daddy one of thechildren that the mother was down there
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in her face in my stepmother flake. They popped off the niggas on the
ground. Oh yeah, you gottagott example, especially when Conny yours.
Yeah, oh yeah. I'd havebeen with CJ quite a few times.
Yeah, and man, I'll benext time and I'm going next time.
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I love it. I love itThree strikes right, so yeah, so
so the movie three strikes. Dude, you gotta realize that we have and
you know, a lot of timesthe movies that people, you know,
be claiming, proclaiming to be thebig movies, to be the movies that
be going big time out the DJthanks, you know, going for our
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hood favorites a lot of times bethe ones you don't want to feel.
Lot of people would be sleeping off. Three strikes was funny. It was
funny. It's funny, and Idon't think, uh that is incorrect,
that is absolutely true. It wasfunny. If you get bad, if
I can, if you hadn't layingthe diaper and it was sliding on the
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glass, you can't move because youjust got character wise. Yeah, but
you know what, but it wasfunny, bro, But it was funny.
It was funny, Bro, andhe was in character. It was
funny, Bro, And you looklike somebody that didn't want to be in
that. So yeah, man,you put you played the road like crazy,
though, Bro, Like you knowwhat I'm saying. You was writing
a pocket. It was hilarious.I was making movies. Uh, I
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was doing at least a movie inyears. So every fucking year, excuse
my land. Every year I washaving something new come on. So I
wanted to keep that going, youknow what I mean? Like, Man,
I'm yeah, yeah. I auditionedfor it, got the Park,
audition for it, got the funHow did you find out about the audition?
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But how did you? I knewthat was in there, but I
didn't care. Man. I wantedI wanted the money. Man, did
you know did you know DJ Poopbefore there? No? I met him
audition. Wow. No, Ididn't know DJ Poop before then, but
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I guess I had something he wantedme to play that role, man,
because if it wasn't for him,I wouldn't have got the park. Yeah.
No, I was super funny though, man. Yeah, I bet
it's kind of like, but itain't as funny ass Friday. It was.
No, it wasn't funny Friday,but it was funny. It was
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fun It was the original class.You're like, yeah, yeah, I
reacted though when you was in there, you know you have got shot in
the ass the where you got Ireally got shot in the ass after that,
bro, after doing them, Wow, Yeah, that's true, because
I stabbed the nigga lockeddown, Yeah, and wanted to really stablished somebody in
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real life and going to prison,going naha something twenty days wow. And
then in three strikes I get shotin the ass. And after I did
that, I wanted getting shot threetimes and one of them when he here,
when he here came through there andwas stuck in my ass for like
thirteen years, got it came outin the pin right before the road in
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twenty eleven. To tell me youthat had to get that sling again,
No, I never had. Evenwhen I got shot in the ass.
They just gave me more fine thatshit feel better than anything. And I
was like, give me another shot. At that. The doctor showing me
asked rays, like, boy,they almost blew your balls off. I
had a scab oney there, everythinglike you got lucky you are. I'm
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like, man, look I didn'tthink of that at that time, and
now I'm looking back, I'm like, man, that's a lot. So
you know what, you know what'simpressive. So I talked to you right
after you got out, Yes,sir, And then I looked up and
he was in this huge movie withSean Pin. I said, I just
dude, do this shit. Man, he just got on. I read
for it and you and you calledme. You're supposed to put me down.
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You said, I'm gonna get youon. What happened? Well,
I was still I was still tryingto get on and see what happened.
I ain't forgotten about you, mistermat like I remember everything. I said.
Many man just got out and heacted like it wasn't nothing. No
ye hample to get back through this. And I looked at this huge movie,
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but my hand wasn't big enough toplay that's cool. I'm just proud
of you for being able to comeright home and jumping something that huge,
said Dave, I didn't even knowwho was in it, bro, I
was working with Spain and I don'teven know he was in I just booked
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the part once they said you gotthe Park, then they told me who
was in the mother. I'm onthe Paramount Lot. We got Sean kim
all these huge actors on that.Well, ain't he Anthony Mackie brother?
And then he didn't blew the fuckup. You know, it's just like
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doing if I go back like SunsetPark and then I'm working with Terrence Howard,
Fragile Store talent hearers, Melinda Williams, uh Antoine tanor all the people
that's relevant right now in the movieindustry and yourself. I mean, you
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know, I humble, but stillI'm I can't wait to go. Yeah.
I'm gonna keep my mouth close.Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, get get this, getthat, get that. Yeah, it
is what cog real life. Andif it ain't got this pack on it,
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it ain't mom, it ain't foodgag fucked up beyond all recognition is
that it No, that's food bar, food bar. I learned that on
that movie. Ye know, itwas the other dude the twin. They
beat up the niggas in prison.Uh. It was called U fucked up
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beyond right. It was all recognition. It was. It was the milk,
not mel gifting but Sevestisloan. Yeah. Uh oh oh, I know
the boy Michael something, Kirk,Kirk Kirk, somebody like that. We're
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gonna figure this out. Come backfrom a break, y'all, because right
now we stot whatever it is.Yeah, yeah, yea. We got
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worth Thick, we got west Sideto Worth, we got hoodies like that
worth Sill, got work for sale. We got work for sale, we
got merch for sale. We're atC and CJMC dot com. Get it,
get it, you can be boys. Shit, I got a bit
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hit. Welcome back to the Dumbc c J. Max Shaw wants to
get I am dumb and I'm CJ. You know what Wait wait wait,
tain't on cash, Tain't going cashRussell Russell man and mail gifted man.
No, So that's we found.I had to get that off, all
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right. We back were back onthat man. So look, man,
he'd have been in some movies.Man, He's been in a lot of
movies. Man. And like Isaid, I'm so impressed that you could
just come back and jump in likethat man, and then snow Fall.
Let's get the snow fall man.How did you get that role? Man?
Let's talk about that. I wouldI would love to see that audition.
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Take John Singleton rut Hey Man,real life man. That's I can't
even speak on that because mister JohnSingleton man is an angel. He still
he didn't, he didn't came backprobably already another body. I love that
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man. Man. He opened upa He gave me opportunity to so to
continue doing what I loved and whatI have a passion for with no judgment.
And that's hard to come by.Bro, that's rare. And the
brother, you know, he's like, Man, I'm not a role.
I want you to read for itand I hope you do good. That's
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all I needed to hear. Idon't give the role was did you what
did you read for? Originally?Scully? Oh? Originally I don't even
remember the character because I wasn't.That was like a few years prior to
it coming out. I was imprisonedwhen uh I did a violation like thirty
two months with half so I seenit. The same move the sow I
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read for is now own and I'min prison. I know how to make
you feel like here, we like, are you serious back in this motherfucker
for what you just did teen years? Why are you back? I don't
even know you had done the violationy'all did carrying a knife, Yeah,
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I keep a knife. No shiplegal, I ain't on Parollau pro back.
I walked out, went to infront of police just like this.
They came real, we love y'all. Bro. They came the one you
got violated, Oh that was akitchen knife. It was a little longer.
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Two of them I have too.So so let's get back to the
story. Man. So you was, you was locked down, you saw
it, you bounced back, andI was like, on my mom,
I'm gonna get on that ship becauseI knew I had a relationship for a
meeting. I knew John right,and he told me on the set of
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the Wood. He came up thereand I met him the first time near
I got something for you, Andit wasn't snowfall. It probably was,
baby boy. I was supposed tobeing that ship on the prison. I
missed a lot of things wanted toprison. Oh yeah, and thank god
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the ones that still had an interesting, had an interesting when you got out
right, Wow, that's a blessingin itself, Like I said, Man,
that's realized. That's a whole lotof getting blessed right, going in,
coming out, a lot of grading, bro, a lot of gras.
None of my life in my hand. My life is controlled and ordained
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by the universe. Anything I needand want, so long as it's right
and I'm doing what I'm one thatit's gonna be done. Basically you handling
in your business. And see Iwas, you know, I've been privileged
enough to work on snow Far witha quite a few of the actors and
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seeing this guy come through. Itwas funny because me and John was talking
and I said, you got DeAndre. He said yeah, he said the
dope. That's all he said.Yeah he doped. He doped. That's
all he said, was yeah,he done. And to see you there
doing your thing in the in thewhole cast, we already know everybody know
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you know. Let you be toldon God on my life. The people,
my co Yeah, yeah, yeah, Broy. They gave me so
much insight from behind the scenes aboutJohn and how he thought right of me.
Particulate. Yeah, I was like, what humble me so greatly?
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Bro, Like I I'm not Igonna do anything to tornish or mess up
this man's ideas. And or tosee you in action, you know,
when we're sitting back there and we'refilming, to see you in action,
to see you go like CJ isreally impressed me too by the way you
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just zone in, yeah, andzone out the player a character like Scully.
You know, what's the preparation forthat right there? Because Scully Scully
so unpredictable mask exactly because I thinka little that is in all of us,
like unpredictability. And what would youdo if if this was forced up
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on you. I'm not gonna thinktwice about. I'm gonna handle what I
need to handle, and Scully gonnahandle what he need to handle. But
if it's something he could think through, he gonna think through it. Is
it worth it or is it not? If it ain't worth it, everybody
gotta go right, does that makeif it ain't worth it, we're gonna
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lead that way it is, andand let's let's let's get to the next
plateau. It's funny that he's sooff the hook, but yet here is
a voice of reason. Definitely,that's great. You know what I'm saying,
scutty off the chair. I believethat it's a lot of people that
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we probably know and see that didn'thave a voice of reason and they're no
longer here. Oh yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like
that nigga was the nigga and yeah, now ye not hearing no more.
So reason is the key, evenif even if you that nigga, or
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you don't have no love me,or you don't get fun about and I'm
like, stup, don't have reason? You got children, you got family,
you got mothers, you got brothers, you got sisions. Think of
that ship before you do what youdo to mess it up. Take it
all away from you now you don'task right, you got that position where
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you didn't been taking away from everything. Man, we're making a rash decision,
and you know what I'm saying.So you definitely understand because of that,
making an indecisive, unrational didn't thinknothing through, just move right.
That's why I could carry a knifeeverywhere. Go a knife. It's not
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a gun. If I had agun, I'll probably been shooting a lot
of people just for fun. Ona freeway driving away, they dropped the
north fence. I'm not no,no, but I'm being I'm not I
can't throw a knife, fench.But and it's but at home, that's
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a different the story. Yeah,you know, you got the right to
protect anything you move with whatever youchoose. So understanding that, knowing that
when I move, I move acourting like I'm going here to handle this.
I ain't got a worry about this. I'm bringing whoever going my peoples
that are, let's go and wetake care of it and it's over after
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that. If it's something happened inbetween that, we got the man to
do that. KG. You know, I ain't gonna say no other name.
Yeah, you know what I mean, shu K. So look,
man, so do you have toone thing? And y'all for give me.
I'm kind of stuck on that characterbecause that's one of my favorite roles.
Yah. Yeah, that's my favoritecharacters. Right. So do you
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he's so different from everybody else inthe show, schulge that character is so
different. Do you have to gosomewhere like by yourself to get into that
character away from everybody else because he'sso different? Or how does that work.
Do you just really just dig intobeing him? Actually? First,
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remember I told you I'll read mycharacter. I don't worry about nobody else
peer whatever they're doing. I mayknow their lines to lead me. Yeah,
but other than that, man,it's uh, I do like have
to go inside myself to find Likewhen I look like the character Scully lost
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his daughter and had to meet hisbaby mother at the hospital. I have
never you know, thank god,lost nobody like that. You know,
But how did I prepare for that? Because imagine even imagining that type of
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loss is heavy. Wow, it'ssuper heavy, bro. So I go
in there and just do that,gain that and don't say nothing until it's
time to do it. When theysay it's time to work, then I'm
right. We're all talent. Andthat's what it looks like to me,
that that that you have to gothrough that kind of process because that character
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is so deep like that characters,I love it man. Like I said,
once again, man, you putoff another iconic role man only you
could do. Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that. But I've seen
every every every character inside snow Fall. I've seen everybody take that role and
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dig into it and put their twiston it, especially you. It was
Scully. I've seen that. I'vebeen sitting back there and just watching when
they say action, how you youknow something might meant to be and I
don't even know you watching me.Yeah, I'm happy, Yeah, something
something met Nick. You might thinkthat it's gonna be said a certain way
and you'll go another way, goanother way with it, and that we
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didn't set back there behind the multipletimes and we're like wow, wow,
wow, which is universe? Yeah, And I want to ask your questions
since we're speak on us now far, are you surprised the way that it's
being we talked about it earlier,the way it's being received right now.
You know, the beginning, peoplewere saying, you know, it's cool,
it's cool. In the middle,they're like, I'm getting up on
it now that we're announcing that thisis the last season. Are you surprised
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right now on how many people areupset, mad, they don't want it
to go. I don't I'm notsurprised, mad or none of that.
But what I would say according tothem to that is that's like life,
bro, motherfucker. Don't cry andappreciate you to you gone that's deep speak,
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and now it's going everybody feeling it. They were feeling it in a
halfway morning. Yeah, you know, but it took time to build to
reach that level. Yes, andBro, it's just it's just a work
or thing. Can't be duplicated,not at all. And that's what that's
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something that I'm I'm glad that yousaid that it can't be duplicated. You
know, it can't be duplicated.I mean, somebody could come out tell
their own version, but this oneright here, it can't be duplicated.
And we heard the story before,of course from you know, Rick Ross,
Freeway, Ricky Ross. Yeah,but this John told me out of
his own mouth all respect to Freeway, yeah, Rick, Yeah, Ricky
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Roll. He wasn't only dope dealer. Bro, you ain't the only dope
dealer in Los Angeles, California,let alone California or LA. You had
big time niggas that was dope dealing. So don't act like you the only
one was winning. Yeah, Butme being us being from South Central,
I will acknowledge the big homie,you know, Yeah, I and give
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him his because I because he wasthe closest to this right here, that
we know of you know to me, Yeah, but that don't have to
be but yeah story. Yeah.But at the end of the day though,
I wouldn't want to be a partof that, yes, yeah,
yeah, I definitely. I don'twant to be a part of nothing that
took my people to him. Definitely, definitely, definitely definitely, But you
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know I not act. Yeah,but the way I'm acting then I didn't
have nothing to do with good answer. Yeah. No. The way that
is being received though, Man,I'm happy, and that's credited to individuals
like yourself coming and putting in theirwork right there, you know, and
you know which brings me right nowto you as an individual off the screen
(43:37):
right now, I see on socialmedia you'll be getting it in with your
with your spreads following me, y'all, don't follow for you know what I'm
saying. But I was what whatbrought about that right there? Was it
something that you're just loving me?Didn't didn't think I was gonna ever be
(43:57):
able to eat other than noodles becauseof prison. Nigga, if I ever
make it out of here, I'mjust I'm gonna be the most I love
women so much now it just putsthem in a whole different perspective, how
important and life giving they are.Yeah, I wouldn't give your mind and
not I love you that. Yeah, but like that man, like not
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having it being taken away from whatyou're accustomed to and to have to start
over, like read program your whole. I learned respect, I learned patience,
I learned love, recognition from whois your people, from who is
(44:45):
not? Man in prison. Thatshit taught me all that brood from prison
because nigga wasn't even good. Youhad noodles. I thought both five six
cases a month if all it cangood? That you can only do so
much with him? Is that wayhe's going to be a super creative like
(45:06):
you? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I didn't do it kind of my
house with each bread. All right, Well look here we go. Maybe
that's why we don't have a spreadout, spread out real life. Yeah
yeah, and I guarantee you hadto taste testers and we're gonna okay,
who heard, right? Yeah?I mean for those now you got so
(45:27):
don't you don't know what we're talkingabout? DeAndre be going hard on on
his I G and on social huckingit up. Anybody, anybody want to
fade on spread. I'm going againstLet's go and the winner game. I'm
coming to host the next dove CC J Max. I don't know about
all that shit. Yeah, I'mgonna win. He don't know about it
(45:50):
because he know he's gonna look.Yeah, I don't be right there.
Whatever whatever, I love it.I'm they voted. It was seven to
nine. I love it. Ihope I predict this shit. I love
it. I love it, man, So what else you got going on?
(46:12):
Brother? Stay cy og? Theyshout out the high Port gas station
in Vegas. Though real life,man, my brother came up with the
logo. Then he got the gaspump with the smoking marijuana, and then
you got gas and uh you know, Stacy man, I said, like
an album about smoking. We Imade a whole strength. Now you can
(46:36):
pick this shit up, go toyour nearest up dispensary and dispense yourself all
you want. We had a dumbin real life to see why the thinking
big man you got he got sideof the box. Thinkside the box.
(46:57):
I love life, stay cy og, uh diabetic friendly because I'm a dibbetter
what and I'll take in some andI've been doing that for like twenty years.
Wow. See we get we getthe wrong depression a lot of times
when we think about diabetics. Youknow, been higher quite a bit.
But you know a lot of peoplethink that when you're a die better,
(47:20):
you just this big old fat,obese you know, a person. People
some people don't realize that, youknow. And these are the different things
that no reason I'm speaking on itis because our people, you know,
And these are the different things thatby you being someone in the public figure,
I mean being a public figure,someone in the public eye, as
a public figure, it's good tosee somebody on your level speak on that
(47:43):
and create something that's you know,that's that's got free. We go to
different restaurants or you know, andsee what they have the all for diabetics,
right, that's not gonna raises sugarright too much? Right, and
you know, check the sugar beforewe eat that. What we know the
(48:06):
numbers come on and and after wecheck. Yah. So to see what
you do did it or did wasit friendly or was it well? To
see you out there, see youout there doing good, surviving that right
there and creating products that's you know, that's diabetes free. That's that's amazing.
(48:27):
Man. Yes, sir, youknow a lot of people. That's
why we had you on the show. It's so much about this brother right
here. People just don't they don'tget a chance to see or no other
than what we see on the screenwith these kind of girls. Thank you
man. In real life, theydon't know, y'all. I just I
just this is my first time.Didn't learned the real brothers that I grew
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up listening to and was motivated byand made me say, you get your
ass selbduced man. I thank forI'm from we you thank you well,
y'all from la is the best Iknow OFFICI anybody we just saying, you
know, we just no. Wegot player partners and you know, partners
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from everywhere around the world, butin no place like home. We're gonna
ain't no place like huh. Wifewith that girl name clicked her damn here
and she had everything she was.We finally got a name right to that's
my mama's name. Can we camecome on? That's why we created Kansas
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too. Oh okay, that's mama. Look, that's why we created this
platform right here, so you know, cats can come on. Feel comfortable
kick the real share game, youknow, with all that being saying,
Man, we thank you, welove you, we give you your flowers
right now. You're one of ours, man, and we want you to.
We wish you much, you know, continual success. We look forward
(50:05):
to seeing you. Gotta thu.No, man, it's all out.
That's apprec look for to see realyou look for to seeing you and bigger
and better things. Man, youknow ain't doing that thing. Keep aspiring.
Thank We're gonna we're gonna spread offtoo. Yeah, y'all gonna have
to spread off and we go,y'all see you. Look, I'm gonna
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be sitting here next tide. Lookdumb, gonna be like spread better he
put It was the garding. Thanky'all for tune in to another palm packed
episode of The DUB C and cJ Max Show. I Am c J,
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bro, thank you very much.Love spreading
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