ICE CUBE INTERVIEW (FULL) Check Yo Self! It's Friday and ICE CUBE's got a lot to say!

Dub C and CJ Mac sit down with Ice Cube to celebrate his accomplishments and that of Hip Hop.. Also discussing early life, longevity, music, movie making, new business ventures, politics, the westside and a ton of untold stories.

Episode Transcript

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up, seeing c J Maxshow.Welcome to the dub seeing c J Maxshow
once again, I am c JMack when I am still dumb seeing and
we're here with another power pack episodeof the dumb seeing CJ Max Show.
What's up up, Bro? What'sup? Power pacat it is when we
got a lot of power. Manlike energy, brother, I like energy.
Don't don't damp him my thing,man, let me do me.

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I was a weekend, all right, great weekend, brow gray weather Man.
Let me say something. I gota chance to see a couple of
my favorite artists get down there,let's get out. I was saying that
for a bit, you want ofthem, you want of them all right,
right, and then I got achance to go check out the Big
Three. Fire. The Big Threeis Fire is action pack, Bro.
They get down. They got anannimiosity back in the back and forth from

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the court. They played with passionthey played with. They played with so
much passion Road and it was sogreat to see like older players that you
admired, you know, former players. I'd rather I'd rather say, right,
But then coaches brought out the chanceto see doctor Jay get out to
coach Bro Gary Paid, My partnerwas out there, coach and Michael Cooper.
You know what I'm saying, LisaLesbie, It's great, Bro.

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You know what I loved about itthe most. Um, I got a
chance to but I mean I gota chance to catch a few gangs,
but to actually sit down there.It's a family oriented atmosphere. Yeah.
I never really tripped off on howmany families out there, the kids just
enjoying and all day. Man.I mean, for a good price,
you get a chance to see theyhave a great time. It was.
It was a packed house, youknow what I mean. It was a

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whole lot of East Coast love.And more importantly, for me, I'm
a systems guy. I'd like tosee how thing worked, you know what
I'm saying. And I saw thework of being put in and you know
that everything had to be on queyou know what I'm saying. The performance
was on Que everything for television wason Que the time out. Everything was
just so dope, man and sowell ran. Yeah. I was really
really impressed, you know, withthe founders. So with that being said,

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you know what I mean, withoutfurther adode, we wanted to bring
on our next guests. Okay,okay, he's uh it was a member
of the most dangerous rap group inthe world. Uh. He's a writer.
He's had multi platinum albums both soloand group. Uh. Movie star

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exactly the producer. When more canI say? Man? Oh, and
rock and roll Hall of Fame,got a star on Hollywood, got the
stars walk Bay and he's our guy. Man, he's all. He's our
champions, like my homeboys now likeice Que. Thank you, we're good
both. Thank you for coming tothe show. Yeah. Man, I'm

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proud of y'all. Man, let'ssee y'all. See y'all. You know,
uh huh, God, damn Polagoing down. We didn't stop from
the downladder. You know, Ishould have should have made sure I had
some mud on my feet so Ican Rick James's counselor you know what I
mean. It's white and uh,you know, they should have never gave

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you makes no money. What I'mplanning with you. I want to start
off first by saying thank you,Um, not just for an opportunity to
get out of here and see theworld getting down with you, but for
what you contributed to hip hop,to the culture in general, for always
standing up and doing you and notcaring about what anybody else thought. I

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just want to thank you for thatright there. I mean, I know
I'm your homie, and you knowwe chop it up every day every other
day see Chathern the Roll. Buta lot of times people talk about giving
their flowers individuals. A lot oftimes we wait until it's too late to
say thank you, and I alwaystell you thank you. But in front
of the whole world, now wegot a platform I can say thank you.
I appreciate you, dub. Youknow you You're You're a day one.

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You know what I'm saying. YouYou've always been there. Ain't nothing
like a loyal friend and nothing likean honest friend, you know, UM
without a hitting agenda exactly. SoUM. You know, we we've been
we've been doing this when we wasamateurs, when when we was just battling
and you were really coming up,you know, we don't. We didn't

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play football against each other in highschool. You know, we we um
and and then we don't sing theworld together, and and we don't rock
the world together. And we don'tdid you know platinum records together? And
and you're always honest and you know, ain't nothing like having somebody you can
bounce anything off of and they're gonnakeep it one thou while we oh yeah,

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yeah friends, Oh since elementary schoolelement elementary score wow them back in
the days. Yeah, And Iwas in the car. I had the
pleasure be in a car and y'allarguing about a football game before Yeah,
you know what doubles mother that fivesteven forty? Ain't that him? Ain't
that him? Que called me aboutwhat are you talking about? This que?
Car? He hitting me so slow, but he caught a touchdown and

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I was glad to see y'all don'trealize this dude right here. Y'all think
I'd be talking on record. Ohman, he'd be going in, going
in in the hood comedy, youknow how he could cast be like,
you know, what's always a backerin the hood, You dude, don't
stop. But he'd be real,you know, just real quiet and sarcastic.
When he hit you with a knockoutblow. He called me up.

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Me and CJ. It was meand c J. Rowland just in the
car, just on GP and thisdude just the phone run like what up?
Hey was signing? Man? Hesaid, up and you score against
us? I said, y'all calledhim. Bomb on y'all. He said,
nigga, you were slow to themall, man, and sever they
get a time out. Came backfrom the time out. He was still

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after fifteen. Hey, but onething I will say, I got braggningt
right, said day Q was hewas. He was our number. He
was mad. He was telling everybody, man, y'all scared of these things.
You know, the taffy and youknow there's a little nervous washing sco.
I know all these y'all scared ofit. I was like, who,

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But it's all good though they look. I want to start this off
by asking you, Um, wehad some interesting conversations on the tour bus,
so I thought some of that shouldbe shared. So I wanted to
ask you. I wanted to startthis off by asking you four question,
No, just give me four wordsand for you to define them as it
pertains to your life. Fear it'ssomething that that don't matter. It's all

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in your mind. You're not hittill you hit. You know, that's
when maker soldier keep keep going whenthe bullets is flying. You're not hit
to you hit. So don't acthit till you get hit, and keep
pushing and don't be scared because youmight not get hit. You might get

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through there without even scratch. Soput your faith in God and the fear
is all in your mind. Courage, Courage is um. It's something that
we all should make sure we cancall on. You know, you build

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up your courage before you have todo it. You know you don't.
You don't build up your courage atthe moment of truth. You build up
your courage before the moment of truth. So when it comes, you already
know what you're gonna do. Right, you know you already know what you're
gonna do. Important. Character Characteris everything. Nothing is great um unless

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the person created has great character.UM. If you don't have great character,
um, I think whatever you createwill ultimately not be good for for
people in the long run. Youknow, character is what we all it's

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what we all have. It's ourspirit. You know what I mean.
It's like, you can't you can'ttake that away. Um, if if,
if you don't, let nobody takeit away. That's one of those
things that God give you that youcan give it away, you know what
I'm saying. But nobody can takeit away. So it's something you should
cherish like you cherish your soul,you know, you cherish your spirit.

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Lastly, longevity, that's what weall want, you know. Um,
God's law is whatever is is uhborn has an expiration date. Whatever comes
to life has an expiration date.So we all have an expiration date.

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But you want to be it's goodfor as long as you can, um,
until you can't do it no more, you know what I mean.
The reason why I asked that isbecause over the years of me knowing you
and being a fan of your career, Man, you you've been in a

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lot of positions where you couldn't beafraid. You had to have courage to
walk away from a bunch of thingsthat the average person wouldn't walk away from.
You know what I mean. You'vealways had excellent character. You you
you're you're a superstar man, butyou're gonna show up here on time.
You showed up here on time andearly what you do? Yeah, that's
but that's character, you know whatI mean. And then all that to

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me is why you've had so muchlongevity. I mean, if you can't
be on time, be early,right. If you can't be on time,
be early. Um, it showsthat you care about other people time,
that you're not bigger than nobody.I mean sometimes I'm late, and

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that's natural, but they're never onpurpose. Um, and I'm not the
first one in the door, butI'm not the last one either at functions,
so um, you know, it'sit's just something that that I like
to do. I like to beon point because people expect you to be

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late. I like to be waitingon them when they show up. There
you go and and it sends amessage because I make sure I was on
time downstairs every time. We everymixed movements, so I wouldn't be the
one, Oh you're getting left Ifyou ain't that, you know you're gonna
be in the lobby saying the datethrough. It was that yep, you

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know, because you know, um, we hit the schedule. Everybody got
to be a professional, you know. When we hit the town everybody got
to be a professional. If Igot to be a professional, everybody got
to be a professional. I gottabe prompting on time. Everybody got to
be prompting on time. Um,and that's what I expect. And and

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you know my team is very veryprofessional. You know you you was on
time too, So you professional onyourself. Bro, I was gonna be
on the extra believe that it wasn'tgonna be me. It's always better.
Yeah, dope, dope, dope, dope. I got a question,

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what did um what a young icecube want to be growing up? Um?
You know, I want to playsports, you know, football,
basketball, And I got into thismusic thing. I became a fan and
then I tried it one day,tried to wrap. Um, I got

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better. I used to seek outpeople in the neighborhood that was doing hip
hop. M I met doctor Dreand you know, tenth grade. And
by the time I got to eleventhgrade, I had a decision to make,
you know, keep playing football oror getting to this music thing and

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hang out and be available. Sowhen Dre, you know Dre, he
he would be on his way outwhen I'm coming home from school. If
I came home at the regular time, I could catch him, make it
to Compton with him, you knowwhere they're doing the music up at Linzo
House, you know, Grandmaster lines. And I would do everything I could

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to make it on time. Andif I came around the corner and saw
that car, I knew. Iknew I was in the game. You
know. I was like dropped thebooks, you know what I'm saying,
and I'm gonna be at the studioall night. And I used to figure
out how I'm gonna do my homeworkwhen I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna
do this on the bus. I'mgonna do this in first period, I'm
gonna do third period stuff. Youknow. I used to be like figuring

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all everything out so I can stayat the studio late, because if I
went with him, he wasn't gonnabring me home till he was finished,
so right, you know, Icould. I could be there at two
till two in the morning, andI got to get the bus at six
forty five, I'm saying, soyou know I was down for that.

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We only show right here, wewe we stressed taking the advantage and not
taking it for granted. An opportunityyou know it's a scene. If you
stay ready, you ain't gotta getready. That's right. Um, speaking
of opportunities, it's a little allscript of what I was gonna ask you.
But when was the first opportunity thatyou got to get in with Dre?

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And then we're talking about like writinga song? Oh um, you
know they the Wrecking Crew had theyhad hit slow songs, you know,
with with like turn off the Lightsand gemmen too, you know lovers,
you know what I mean. Sothey had big hit slow songs. Dre

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had Doctor Dre's Surgery, but itwas no fast you know, kind of
you know, techno. And andwe were sitting around listening to the James
Army come out with hit after hitwith with Egypt Egyptian Lover Rodeo and them,

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and uh, you know we're lookingat the La Dream Team who had
smash hits, you know, RudyParty and Snake Puppy. Yep, you
know what I'm saying. They hadbig songs, and uh, it was
being played all over the radio,and we we wanted some of that action.
So I was always full ideas,I'm throwing him at Dre. I'm

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in the hip hop, so I'malways shooting him ideas and he, uh,
he had to write a song.He said, ma, i' gonna
write a song off this new dance. Um it's called the Cabbage Patch Dance
and I'm gonna write a song offof it, and um, and we
don't make it a hit. AndI help him write the song. So

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he started to you know, trustmy pen and and then I started to
He was doing mixtapes for K theTraffic Jams to do something for Steve Yanno
at the Roodium swad meets. Nowthe ones we did for Steve, he
wouldn't want me to wrap on andhe would be like, wrap that shit

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about the neighborhood that you'd be rapping. And I said, okay, so
I would put that on the tapesand uh, Easy heard that. I
asked Steve Yanno who put these together? And he said doctor Dre and Easy
remember doctor Dre from when they usedto you know, when doctor Dre went

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to Compton High then he ended upgoing to Centennial and um and so um,
that's that's kind of how I startedto get respect as a writer amongst
Dre and Yellick. Because now theyhad a song that it actually was a

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hit. LA had played it allday. You know, it was in
good rotation. So he was like, um, you know he trusted my
my my writing. Wow, that'sdope, man, that's real history right
there, that I have to writethe cabbage Patch It was song about the

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cabbage Patch dance. Yes. Wow. At that point, was that where
you said, this is what Iwant to do, this is I could
see myself taking this full fledge.Even though he was writing, he wasn't
rapping at the time on the Imean, I knew it was it was
a It was a fun hobby.I didn't think I was gonna make a

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living at it or make money atit. It was just fun to be
in hip hop, to be youknow in the DJ booth, you know,
backstage at concerts. I used towatch the Wrecking Crew. They would
open up for Mary Jane Girls andConfunction And I even saw uh Kid Rock

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you know, back in eighty foldyou know as eighty yeah, as a
DJ, you know, for forone of those concerts. You know,
crazy Yeah. He was you know, into hip hop, and and we
respected him because he you know,he was Djane. He came out there,
he rapped and everybody was like,who the hell are you? You

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know what I'm saying. He wasa white kid with this big ass,
super thin name, played to seekid rock damn, and so being you
know, with him and seeing itfrom the inside out. Um, that's
all I wanted to do my freetime. When did it turn into a

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business for you? We just sideof a it's time to turn this into
a business when you know, Easywanted to pay me to write a song
for one of his groups, andhe's gonna give me some money for it.

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Um, And so I was like, wow, okay, you know
I can actually get dollars off ofdoing this. And but but I never
liked, you know, thought aboutUm, I never really thought about Okay,

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this is this is the way I'mgoing right. You know. I
was just trying to convince Linzo todo a record on the Stereo Crew,
which was the crew I was in. We later changed it to CIA,
which h for us it was criminalsin action, but Linzo wouldn't let us

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put criminals in action on it.Well I'm not sayin't nobody buying the records
from my damn criminals? And heput crew in action because they was the
Wrecking Crew and we was like babyCrew Crew in action. Lonzo was not
messing with no no, you knowgangster Well, you know he comes from
an era where you know, youhad to dress up, were hard bottoms,

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you know what I'm saying that.Yeah, and you know it was
you know, funk, disco,R and B, you know, slow
jams, Teddy Pendergrass. You knowwhat I'm saying that that that music like
that and hip hop was kind ofan alternative. I don't want to talk
for the man, but that's fromour, our, our, my point

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of view. And then he wasa promoter. He would uh promote run
DMC and and Salt and Pepper andall these groups to come and perform at
Dudos or do the sky Land.Before that, he had Eve after Dark.
But I didn't go to Eve afterDark, you know, I came

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around when they went to Dudos overthere in Compton. So he was just
up, you know he was.He was hustling in hip hop, trying
to find his way. You gottaunderstand at the time Prince was King,
Michael Jackson was King ready for theworld. Yeah, you know, it

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was like you gotta he was tryingto be in the mix. Yeah,
he wanted to make sure that theywasn't trying to be run DMC because they
already had that covered. When't tryingto be the Beastie Boys. You know,
they had that covered. Curtis Blow, all these people they had,
they had that style covered. Ithink he was just trying to make sure

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they did an LA thing and andclaim some territory because they would tour all
through the South Southwest. They're beingDallas, they being uh Albuquerque, in
Phoenix and um, you know thosethose spots, um, so you know

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they'd be in Seattle. Um,it was cool. You know, they
were starting to game traction, right. That slow song Lovers was their biggest
hit, right, and so theycame behind that would turn off the lights,
off the lights another slow jab,big mega hit. You know,
it's kind of like it's kind oflike a little John with that h lovers

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and Friends with Us, you knowwhat I mean, It's just a jam.
So they was going all over thecountry with that song. So why
would he want to do you know, a bitch is a bitch or you
know, because Nigga's like me wantto hear it. I mean, you
know, just from a you know, different slightly, you know, on

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different get down. So what brokethe ice of that right there to where
you got a chance to display arecord? Easy m He was the only
one that was saying, look now, keep it real. I'm keep it
real. We did do those oneday and we had some dirty raps,

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dirty raps. Trey snuck us onstage. We had we turned rock Sand
Rock Sand into Diane Diane. Weturned my Adidas into my rubber. I
turned Pee Wee Herman and the VDsermon. I'm saying, so he did

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all these dirty songs, like flippingthe lyrics, you know, like on
some where our Yankovic type shit,you know, the dirty street shit,
flipping it around. You know.I was response. They went berserk,
and then that's when uh Linzo andTennis went up a little. But he
still he said, we're gonna recordthem songs. Well, we're gonna do

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a bootleg because I ain't about toget sued by run dmc Joski love.
Yeah, you know exactly, likeman ain't about to get sued by Full
Force and Tier Foe and shit.So like we gonna it was a blue
record that said it just said dirtyrapping. You know what I'm saying,

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I think he sold about it fivehundred and the motherfuckers, you know.
But Easy liked it, you know, yeah, you know. Easy would
be like he would come through there, you know, these are kind of
records we need to be doing,like y'all tripping, this is the Ship.
And then it's like he was justcoming around a little you know,

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young hustler coming around telling us whatthe records we should be making. And
we was like, man, tryingto get Ship on the radio, you
know what I'm saying, what thefuck? And he would be like,
man, he would uh, youknow, he would be like, man,
you need to do that shit you'redoing on the mixtapes boom boom boom.

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When I start a record label,I'm I'm that's the kind of shit
I'm gonna do. And everybody whatlabel you're gonna start. So he started
doing his homework, you know,learning from Linzo, you know, um
and and just learning from everybody around, going up to mccola and shit,
h mccola Press, Press, StarVinyl right here in Hollywood, not too

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far from here, and uh,he would be up there learning and then
one day he came with a labeland shit, it said ruthless. It
was it was drawn. It wasn'tred or nothing. It wasn't like you
see. It was just a handdrawn of all these different fonts that spill
ruthless and shit. So I waslike, damn Rufless Records, gotta ring

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to it. Yeah, And hesaid, we're doing hardcore shit. So
I'm like, okay, hardcore shit. But your first record was jj FAD
super Signics. Shit. I'm like, where's the hardcore shit. He's like,
man, that ship went shit,went platinum, you know what I

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mean. I'm still trying to makemoney. So I'm like, Okay,
they record came out first while wewas kind of working on the hard shit,
and he would bring around um allhe would he would go to the
record store and just buy all kindsof music, like he would have damn

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near a suitcase full of music.And he he bumping um, you know,
just Ice, he bumping nice Tea, he bumping criminal minded. You
know what I'm saying, He bumpingschool ly d A. And then what
we're doing is coincide with what he'ssaying. These are the kind of records

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we want to make. And sowe were all in our own groups,
so we knew we couldn't be onRuthless Records, and so he was trying
to sign other groups and he founda group called HBO. They looked like
New Yorkers where they were in NewYorkers. They was from Queens. They

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all looked like ll COO J soum. He was like, man,
it's my group, and we're likewhy, and he was like, they're
from New York, they're gonna blow. Like okay that you know, just
because you're from New York. Yeah, that don't mean you're gonna blow.
You know, back then, anybodythat looked like they was a B boy,

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we figured they could blow exactly inin La so Um. Then you
know the stories in the movie.But they didn't want the song I wrote.
I wrote the song in eleventh gradecalled Boys in the Hood. Gave
it to him. They didn't wantit. Drake convinced, easy to do

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it, you know, and thenthe rest is history. That is dog,
that's dog, that's dog. Youknow what. Let's take this,
take this time to go pay somebills. We'll be back with the iconic
og my homeboy Ice killed. You'dbe right back. We got worth Sill,

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we got west Side to worthies worthsilling got work for sale. We
got work for sale, We gotmerch for sale. Were at dub and
CJ MC dot com. Get it, get it. He cocked opens be
boys, shit got a bit.Welcome back to the dub C and CJ

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Max Show once again, y'all.I am dub See, I'm still CJ
Mac and we're still here with noneother than Ice q Q. I got
a question. Um, I knowwhat I saw. We grew up in
the same neighborhood. I know whenI saw him when I came outside with
an Ice QC when he stepped outsidein its neighborhood. Um, I mean,

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it's a nice neighborhood. You know, it's a lot of boys on
our street. You know, backthen there was a lot of boys on
the block. So it was alwayssomething going on, you know, whether
it was football, basketball, baseballon the street. Um, gold cards,

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mini bikes, all that scape boards. We're putting them ramps, We're
jumping off the roof. We comea heart of bloom fights. Come on,
you know what I'm saying. We'replaying high and go seat. You
know what I mean. We uh, you know, just enjoying the whole
neighborhood and and and you know,and looking out for yourself. You know,

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you're looking out for you know,gang bang activity, looking out for
the wrong car to hit the corner. You know what I'm saying. You're
looking out for um Lennox, Yeah, you know what I mean. It
was just the sharffs that patrolled theneighborhood, So you're looking out for them

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too, because you ain't gotta bedoing nothing for him the fuck with you?
Uh So, just being innocent,sitting down and kicking it with your
friends on the bike or sitting onthe grass whatever they roll up, pull
up, and you know, umdepends on who they really want to talk
to out there. So it wasall that, Um, a lot of

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a lot of people going to work, a lot of kids going to school,
um, people coming home for work, people coming home from school.
Um. You know, sometimes itwould be you know, fight here there
on the block. Yeah, somebodypicking on somebody, somebody trying to talk

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to somebody's sister. You know afew girls out there. But you know,
you could always get some cracking whateveryou wanted to get going right there.
You could always get find it.A few people to do it.
The reason the reason I asked youthat was because that Boys in the Hood
that you wrote. Yeah, youdescribed everything the day. I mean you

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described it all in it, fromgetting it to end um. And for
somebody to write that song, theyhad to be able to experience a lot
of that that went on. Whetheryou were the victim, the you know,
or whatever, you had to experiencethat. And one thing about California.

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Tell everybody y'all out there listening,everybody think The DJ premier told me
one time. We talked about thisall the time. When you first came
to La and he came to theneighborhood, I brought him at my mama
house. You're like, man,the grass is so green, it's so
nice around here. And then acar hit the corner and everybody got the
ducking and moving here like damn,what the hell? Why Why were y'all

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trip like that? And I toldhim, I said, it's the culture.
It's long term beef. It's allkinds of stuff that sparked that that
anger and for a place to bein which you just describe family oriented,
like you know, you could comeoutside and see this, see that when
you listen to Boys in the Hood, you see it's a whole another get

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down. You know you said itwas fun. It was fun. It
was funny, but at the sametime too, it was something that also
to let you know that anything couldjump off at any given time. And
with that being said, my nextquestion to you was, what made you

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say I'm about to start going evenharder? Because from what we heard Boys
in the Hood, but after Boysin the Hood you took it up a
whole other notch. What made yousay I'm getting ready to take this a
whole other level right here? Wasit responsive Boys in the Hood on how
everybody was loving it, or thisis something that you just had building up
in you, like I'm about togo with this one right here. I've

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been waiting to get this off.You know, I had different kind of
raps. You know, I hadstreet raps back then. Yeah, I
had street wraps, but I hadraps that was trying to get on the
radio too, you know what Imean, like regular rhyme and rhymes,
you know, uh yeah, youknow, um battle raps. Yeah,

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nothing street. We're talking about thestreets because we didn't know we could make
a living at that. You know, we always had to be caught with
a real song that was that couldget played on the radio. That was
the whole objective for everybody doing recordsat the time. Um, So I

(34:29):
always had these cocked and loaded.When Easy gave gave me the green light.
Now, um it was kind oflike, okay, over here,
Ruthless could do any kind of recordsyou want to do. And he had

(34:52):
come up with this concept is y'allcan stand y'all groups, This our side
hustle. This is like all stargroup. And got a couple from Wreaking,
the crew, got you from fromCia, we got uh, we

(35:12):
got Easy. You know. Hewas already a star, a rising star,
and he was letting us do thekind of records that we had just
made a mega hit out of.And so it was like, Okaka,
pull some of these street raps tothe front and and try to make records

(35:36):
out of him now and not justleave them in my notebook. All right.
So Dope Man was was a songI wrote, and what was dope
is dre was like, you know, I want you to do it there,
That's what I'm looking for right there. And then I wrote eight Ball

(35:58):
for Easy, you know, sohe could follow up Boys in the Hood
um. Then after that it wasthe next UM single I wrote was was
Gangster Gangster, And so it waslike dope Man had had you know,

(36:22):
made an impact and I found mystyle, so dope Man. To answer
that question, it was dope mandMan. So I want to say this,
man, I don't want to bethe one jumping on tripth and topics
and that ice Cube is definitely thenumber one story teller in the entire rap
game. And show me somebody elseto be doing this since nineteen eighty five,

(36:45):
you know, and maybe you knowa lot of people be saying I'm
biased because because you know, wefamily, But when you look at the
body of work, when you lookat the consistency and just how the impact,
how can he not be, youknow, not the best, one

(37:07):
of the best, in the toptwo to me, slick Rick definitely hands
down this, you know he there, but que definitely definitely. I mean
one of his biggest records, GoodDay, was a story, and you
can you saw that impact even fromrecords that we don't really trip off of
the stories because he's so witty andputting them down the way you even would

(37:30):
check yourself, you know, Imean, I just to me, I'm
loving it. I love the factthat I get a chance to see you
get down. I'm gonna take itback to since me and you was.
You know, we go way back. You know, fuck all this interview
shit. I remember y'all one Cubato come to my mama house. You

(37:51):
and you're the missus used to comeby and used to come in. Cube's
real competitive. For those who reallydon't know, he still to this day.
That's why he still do what hedo. You know, no matter
what we do, he want tobe the best at it. I remember
when you used to come in.You used to have a shitload of notebooks,
yea with rap center a whole Imean, just runs and you'll be

(38:14):
a B to B playing. I'llbe playing a beat and you'll be sitting
there. Me and tunes was inthe den one time, and I never
forget when you left, I said, did you see this one? Could
just kick like nine raps to theone beat? Oh, I got another
one here, kick one or twoverses and okay, let's try this one
with that one. And that rightthere, to me, it showed me

(38:35):
that you just don't have to writeto a beat. You don't have to
write to a beat. You know, if you really got an inn you
when you really want to get itoff, get it off. I wrote
my biggest songs to air to airto air before we even had to beat
to air to air. I wroteBoys in the Hood to air. That's
though it is no beat. That'sdog. The beat was not made now

(38:58):
to give a beat. You cango right to the beat back. Then
you wrote the song, and thenyou created a beat that fit the song.
That's dope, right, that's dope. I remember that I wrote there
told tunes. I say, neverseeming like that ever. It's absolutely amazing
man. Ability to be able tosee the things you see and put it
down and a blank piece of paperthen put these thoughts here and make it

(39:21):
makes sense man, And you've beendoing it for years. So he's number
one. To move right along,number one, No one, questionably move
right man. You know. Thething is is like um, like I
said before, you know, it'sa lot of dope storytellers. Oh yeah,
you know, but you gotta lookat sample size, and you know,

(39:44):
I think I gotta way bigger samplesize. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
definitely definitely and much loved respect toall the storytellers out there, all
the greats, but nobody fucking withmy home voice right out. You know
it's all good that it's taking onemore break. Make it's some builds.
Ain't rude. Yeah, we're rightback with Ice Cue. We got worth

(40:12):
Sill, We got west Side toworth Sill, got hoodies like that,
worth Silling, got work for sale, we got work for seven, we
got merch for sale. We're atdub C and CJMC dot com. Get
it, get it be boys,shit, I got a bit hit.
Welcome back to the jumbeing CJ macShow. I am CJ Mack and I'm

(40:37):
still dub C and we're still sittinghere with ice Q. Yes, sir,
you know, speaking of storytelling.When before we took a break,
one thing I always amired about you. I got a chance to set up
me show dog rest in Peace andJD just came home. We used to
sit up, all three of you. Just say, dude, you saw
this dude could just sit up andstudy detail. He could listen to stories

(40:58):
that you know that people talking outand he could just take it and just
write a story to it. Ican't. I don't know too many people
that can do that, you know. I mean, they might write a
story to it, but it don'tbe dead on. Some of the vacation
to me is when ice Cube's hardeststories ever, some of the cations.
Man. And I just remember hearingSheldy and JD said, Man, we

(41:22):
just sitting down with you. Weused to be just talking about this something
like that. That dude just cameout with a banger. And that's something
I admired about you man, whenit come to storytelling. I just wanted
to tell you that right there.I ain't never told you. Yeah,
I appreciate it. You know.Everything we all write about is things that
we been through, heard about,right or seeing with our own eyes.

(41:45):
And I used to be in schoolgoing back and forth to Phoenix, and
they was watching one of my peoplein Phoenix. Yeah that I had just
met, but they was cool tome. I didn't know nobody out there.
I was going to school and wewas cool. And the Feds would

(42:08):
always stop me at the airport andgo through my bag, you know what
I mean. They would sweat meevery every other time they thought I was
you know, they thought I wasmoving, but I was you know.
Um Southwest had a twenty nine dollarsticket one way, you know what I'm
saying that to get your plastic youknow, a plastic ticket and shit.

(42:30):
And I was like, I definitelycan come up with you know what I'm
saying, fifty some dollars every twoweeks to take my ass home. And
so I would be going back andforth, you know, they would seeing
me coming back and forth, andI'd be like, you know, I
niggas keeps stopping me. I'm inschool showing them my idea. They're going

(42:52):
through all my shit, you know. So seeing some of the people that
I was with, um making movesand doing things, it all brought it
all together when it was time forme to be solo and write a song

(43:13):
and understand, you know, whatpeople was going through. I knew people,
um who was out of town andthey got caught up UM and all
that. So it was, Yeah, it was something that I thought needed
to be sad because the rest ofthe country didn't really understand what was happening

(43:36):
in their cities with with a lotof la you know, dudes kind of
invade their town. Yeah, Ilove it, said, what what man?
One of them dudes invading the town? Oh? Man, you know

(43:57):
what's up y'all. Anyway, justgo to the movies. Because of the
movies Boys in the Hoods, thatthe very first of them, very first
movie. No, No, Iwas it? What was it? Dragon

(44:20):
Fly Jones? Damn dragon Fly?I was the first person to start que
movie. For those who don't know, it didn't make the cut. And
maybe because I was running around thetripping with that gun, that's why you
never come. But what was dragonFly? Joe Love Martin? We used
to Love Martin and he had acharacter on there and called dragon Fly John.

(44:44):
And so we was in Japan,board out of our mind, and
I'm like, man, we needto just film some shit. You know,
we had the little cam quarters backthen. So um we walking down
the hall, you know, justtrying to film some stuff, and uh,

(45:05):
I think Crazy Tunes was like,hey, he tripping, he tripping,
he tripping. I come through.I come around the corner and dubbed
is he dressed like a superhero shit? And he take off running down the
hall and I'm feeling him and uh, he got this little fake ass pistol
on his head in his hand.He coming around. I'm trying to catch

(45:30):
you, and he said he said, he cuckoo. You know, he
off he off that dust and youknow he get into the hallway and just
and bust on himself before turning thehallway. And I'm like, wait a
minute, man, that was aquick ass movie. You know what I'm
saying. Like, you know,the movie lasted like seconds. Man.

(45:53):
I'm like, dude, we can'tgo nowhere after you kill yourself. It
ain't no nothing else to shoot.That's what Dubin Tuned used to drink heavy
character character this. It was funto see. Yah. You know my
roles and the movie was just kindof small you want to make look at

(46:16):
that? Damn Yeah, no shotthat on? No what? No know
what your roles? What you doing? So positive? Hood? Man?
How did that come about? JohnSingleton man? You know he he just
came up to me one day.Yeah, rest In Pieces came up to

(46:37):
me one day. I was backstageArsenior Hall show and he was like,
uh you h cu right, AndI'm like, yeah, he's a man.
I want to put you in amovie. I'm like, what you
know, back then, I waslike I didn't think I was qualified.
I'm like, iin't gonna you knowacting? You know what I'm saying,

(46:58):
like Golden Movie. I like movies, never trying to be and didn't you
know, didn't didn't think about it. But I didn't dismiss him, you
know. I just kind of listento him, you know, hearing him
out, and then and see himagain. He said he was a junior
at USC. And then I seehim a year later. I'm in the

(47:22):
Bondaventure Bonda Venture Hotel, walking throughme and some folks. He comes running
up, Hey, hey, rememberme, remember me. I'm trying to
singleton. I'm I'm a senior atUSC. Now I'm a senior and you're
gonna be in this movie. I'mlike, yeah, man, okay,
watch out, you know. Andthen I lead a group. I go

(47:44):
to New York. I work onAmerica's Most Wanted with the Bond shout out
Chuck d much love and the BondsCHOI, Eric and Keith Shockley, Hank
Shockley, um pitying me. GrandScratch come on out so we you know.

(48:05):
They out in LA at the Palacedoing the show and I'm there checking
him out. This dude, comehit me again. Yo, I graduated.
Man, put you in this movie. Man, I can't tell you
about it. You know, itwas cool. Show was over. I
was like, yeah, man,I'm watching my car. Just we're sitting

(48:27):
the car. He's like, you'reworking on the album. I was like,
yeah, I'm going solo. SoI'm like, okay, here going
new new somebody could place some demosfor and see if you know, they're
feeling the ship, feeling the ship. He was going crazy. Then he
started telling me. You know,he started telling me about start telling me
about the movie and long story short, nigga ride leave him. You know

(48:52):
what I'm saying, his ride leavehim. Wow. And we're at the
palace. It's empty. No,we're the only car in the parking lot
and um, and I'm looking around. He go walking and thinking his people
don't stayed and waited for him.Yeah. I'm like, man, I

(49:13):
hope this dude don't come walking outof here. I hope he walked in
and found his people. So themovie John I turned on my card and
hear his ass come walking back andI'm like hey. He was like,
man, my ride left me.And he started looking around like I'm gonna
get the sc from here. Likehe's looking he like, cabs ain't back

(49:37):
then, ain't nothing coming, nobus running. He was like, cute
man, I hate to ask youbecause you give me a ride to my
dorm. I'm like, oh oh, I don't do this kind of shit.
I'm dolo, right, and Idon't know who this dude is,

(49:59):
right, it could be just aline ass a little weird though, So
get him a ride and I don'tsee him no more. You know my
solo record is hidden. I gottakill it, will you know what I
mean? On my solo career?Rolling you My manager Pat Sharp and they
say she got a script. Imeet her in her office one day.

(50:22):
She's like, somebody will put youin the movie. Hands it on,
put on her debts. I'm like, huh, who move me? Are
you sure? Yep? Go downthere. Thursday hears the size. You
know you gotta here's what you gottaread. Sides are just one scene or
two that you read when you're auditioning. Okay, I take the script.

(50:43):
I thought in my back seat,I folded the size up and put them
in my pocket. It's Monday whenshe give me his. By Thursday,
them size is all bent up.I ain't never looked at nothing. I
pull up they he had his uh, his his office at Marla Gibbs Studio

(51:04):
right there in the Merk Park.And we pull up and I pull up.
You know, I'm doom by myself. I pull up, I pull
the side on my back pocket.I'm trying to read him in the car
real quick. You know, I'llpull up at I pull up at one
thirty. My meeting is at oneuntyfive. I'm just like, you know,

(51:27):
I'm thinking, I'm going to seesome people that made a damn mistake.
You know what I'm saying, LikeI ain't the one, you know.
I think I'm going in there tosee you know, like white people
make movies. That's the how Ithink. So I go in there.
His little ass is sitting there,Tom, I see, I told you
told you. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, you say,

(51:51):
damn you are making a movie.So I was like looking around, I
said, okay, he's all right, man, got all the people in
there, and he's like, herewe go. He start reading lines.
I suck. I'm I don't knownothing. I'm reading you know, LA
Unified School District. You know whatI'm saying. I'm I'm sucking up.
And he like, man, yousuck. He put me aside. He's

(52:14):
like, man, I don't thinkyou're gonna be that bad cute. Yeah,
And I was like, hey,man, hey, I ain't no
actor. Nag I told you,he said. He said nah, he
said, did you read my script? Man? I said no, it's
in my back seat. He's like, oh, it's fucked up. He

(52:37):
said, huh. He was like, I'm gonna get one more shot,
man, because because they want theywant me to bring in some other actors.
I just wanted you. I'll getyou one more shot. Go home,
read my whole script so you knowwhat the movie is about. And
when you come back, I can'tunderstand. So I went, I went

(52:58):
and read the script me and youknow, me and Kim. I'm sitting
there, She's sitting there. I'mreading the script and I can't put it
down. M I kept saying,they making a neighborhood. They making a
movie about our neighborhood. And shewas like, what say, They're making
a movie about our neighborhood. AndI'm like, is that movie work?

(53:21):
Like how we grew up? Motherfuckers? Want to see that in the movie.
And uh. She was like,I guess all they're making it.
And I understood. So when Iwent back in audition, you know,
I was, I was. Iwas like, man, I got this.
I know, I know this shipright here like this is I thought
it was some real acting stuff Ihad to do. It was, I

(53:46):
mean, you know, I hadto you know, hit my mark and
save my lines. But I knew, I knew what to do. I
knew, I knew who Doughboy,right, I knew I know dough Boy.
Yeah. Yeah. Could I remembergoing to see the movie for the
first time. We got a chanceto go see it. It was a
preview. Yeah, you got achance to go see it, not the

(54:07):
premier. We got a chance togo see it before everybody else got a
chance to see it. And man, I mean it was a powerful movie.
And John used to tell me too, because let her down the line.
I got a chance to work withJohn Recipe for snow Fall. Thank
you John. M Wait wait,people don't know Dub c got all the

(54:28):
actors Compton ready and straight out ofCompton. So all the actors that came
from out of town. Hey,he the one who had him looking and
feeling and sounding like n WA.So salute to Dub working with all the
actors and giving them that la swam. Thank you, thank you for the
opportunity because it was a trip,because I believe you when you call.

(54:52):
Yeah, they came up to mebecause they was mad at Jason Mitchell.
Yeah, came up to me.They said, Man, that motherfucker could
think you easy got damn right,God, damn rdy dude. They were
so mad, you know because walkingaround there like I wouldn't let him funny.

(55:14):
I was like, Okay, Isaid, that's what y'll mad about.
You say you think I'm gonna goover there and stop him? Okay.
You know we were around some realones around him, like, man,
I ain't about to do nothing ofthat nigga. Man, you know
what I'm saying. Easy? Yeah? Yeah, so so fast forward,
man. Lots of great performances,lots of great movies and things like that.

(55:37):
Then he picked up your pin.You and DJ Pooh created Fridays.
Yeah, you know what was theinspiration behind that? And how did that
come about? Um? Shout outto Robert Townsend with Hollywood shuffling. Shout
out to um. The Wayans brothers, you know, Keenan and dann U

(56:00):
with with and you know their sister. Yeah, they dope, you know
with in Living color dope. Youknow, those was what we laughed at,
you know, Martin, and youknow, we was having fun watching
TV, you know, in theafternoons of eating this or movies like like

(56:22):
Hollywood Shuffle. We saw Robert Townsand do that movie basically with credit cards,
bar money, um, doing whateverhe can to get a film together
the way he saw it and wantedto do it. So you know,
we admired Robert Towns and for fortaking them stance and doing the movie he

(56:45):
wanted to do and he did.Hollywood Shuffle is a classic, classic,
classic, uh movie that that reallyhighlights what black actors have to go through
in Hollywood, you know, especiallyat that time. So um, you
know those was an inspiration. AndBoys in the Hood, Minister Society,

(57:08):
uh South Central Colors, you know, all of them, Um showed think
American meat too, but all themshowed our neighborhood and how how fucked up
it is. And I wanted tobe like, well wait a minute,
we have fun too. There wego. We laughed about everything. You

(57:31):
know what you might cry about,we're laughing about it, and we need
to show how it really is whenwe young and you know, you're not
scared of the streets. You know, you're not scared of the activities that's
going on around there. You init. You're young, you're coping with

(57:53):
it, you're dealing with it,you're surviving through it, and you and
you're laughing the whole fuck in.Wait, you know what I'm saying.
And that's what we wanted to portray. Two dudes kicking it on the porch,
tripping off the neighborhood around him.All the activity that go on on

(58:15):
a Friday in the neighborhood right onone street. That was That was just
it was brilliant. I got achance of being a movie. Yep,
you tried to kill Craig in data. You know how many people would have
hated you? No shoe mass onceagain, quickly, I asked, I

(58:42):
said, I said, damn.I told uh uh f Gary Gray,
Damn, I said, dub jumpout man. He let the cliff go.
I'm like, you really think wedidn't get hit movie man, just
jump on the jump on the damntruck and damn, he let him all

(59:06):
go. He trying to end them, He didn't trying to smoke more of
a villain than d boy, ifyou ain't in the shots with a hit
smoking look, man, I tookadvantage of the opportunity. Rolled down there,
only tunes, roll me on thebeach, crews, only hand the
bars. Yeah, roll through therecame up with I'm killed. I heard

(59:30):
he was doing a movie and Isaw it was real and ki when it
was out of getting in, Isaid, I gotta go, and Gary
did tell me don't really, youknow, just get off shit. I
had a couple of seconds. Man, everybody looked at my right y'all.
He was like, we good,nigga. Yeah, yeah, we got

(59:50):
the shot. We got the shot. I want to salute you for this
too. Man, you discovered havehave discovered. There's so many uh talents,
great talents through that franchise. Man. Yeah, Chris Chucker, Mike
EMPs, I mean, come on, man, like you're giving so many
people's shots. Man, even itwas Michael Blackston. Yea giving a lot

(01:00:13):
of people opportunities, put together agreat cast of the people like John Witherspoon
and stuff like that. But man, you gave a lot of people opportunities,
man, And you know, definitelyshould be saluted. Yeah, you
don't get the credit for that.Yeah. I mean, I mean,
you know, I don't need creditfor people that that you know, that

(01:00:34):
don't want to give it to me. Who cares? You know, it's
the people that see what I do, see what I'm doing, enjoy what
I do, because that's the mostimportant thing. You know. Somebody gave
me a shot. Somebody put mein front of the camera or put you
know, put me in front ofthe microphone, right and and just discovered
my talent and and said, okay, this this deserves the world to see.

(01:01:00):
And when I see talented people outthere, that's what we're going through
my mind, like, damn,world need to see this, you know,
because he he uh he got something. And and ut Williams, I'm
I got a good eye. Youdo, you a good eye? Um.

(01:01:20):
But they're talented already, you know. I'm just giving them the opportunity
to show the world what they cando. Speaking of Friday, the I
P yeah, me and you talkedabout this. Um, why do you
think if they don't want to moveon with the franchise, why they're still
holding on to it. Why notjust give it back to you? Um?

(01:01:43):
You know, Friday is a familymovie. The men in the movie,
work it out. You know thatain't on That ain't on Hollywood's agender
right now. Damn, that's whyI'm getting a movie back, and that's
why it's not getting made because it'sa family movie where the men and the

(01:02:05):
family work it out. And likeI said, that, ain't that ain't
hollywood wood agenda right now. MSo this is the hold up. We
can't enjoy this film although everybody inin the world wants to see it,
there's a hidden agenda behind yeah,you know, Um, they get to

(01:02:27):
distribute the movie. They've doubt it. Me before would Ride Along. I
took it to Universal and made ita hit. With Straight out of Compton.
I took it to Universal and madeit a hit. And they don't
want it. Want me to embarrasssomeone with Friday and take it to Universal

(01:02:52):
and make it a hit. Sothey're trying to save their jobs. But
um, his roll. You know, Toby Emrick who was stopping it fired
or demoted. Wow, So we'llsee who's gonna be the next person up.

(01:03:14):
Crazy. Well, I'm sure hopingfor it because everybody's waiting on it.
Man, I've been waiting on fortoo long now. I want to
see who the next great person.Uh, you know that you discovering and
let's keep the franchise rolling. Man. That's why I'm saying, Mike de
Luca, do the right thing.Come on, Mike, Yeah, do
the right thing, the right thing, Mike. Yeah, we need that,

(01:03:36):
you know, Mike, we don't. Did you know early New Line
movies together. He's one of thenew guys in charge, so you know
it happen. Make it happen,Mike. Yeah, we need that.
We need that slice cube. Onething I didn't want to ask you about
politics. He got deep into politicsaround the time pandemic. Uh not really.
They got with me because you cameout with something and I know how

(01:04:01):
you are. I know you waswho hardly into it, and it seemed
like you started catching a lot ofbacklash man, like they don't expect us
to have anything to say about thingsthat have to do with us, and
I don't get that right. Yeah, So I mean I wouldn't use to
wear backlash. Didn't nobody touch me? Okay, So they were talking a
lot of smack on them. Yeah, they're just talking shit. So it's

(01:04:23):
it's politics and the plans for youletter on or are you still involved.
I don't want to be in.I don't want to be No, I
don't. I don't um really careabout politics. I care about getting shit
done. I don't. I don'tcare that people don't like that. I

(01:04:45):
talked to everybody. Fuck them.I could talk to whoever the fuck I
want to talk to when I wantto talk to him. There you go,
grown goddamn man. You don't likeit, that's your problem. Don't
make it my problem, because thenyou got a real problem. So you
know, I do what I wantto do when I want to do it,

(01:05:06):
and at the end of the day, I don't care about none of
them anyway. You know what I'msaying. I'm just trying to get some
shit done for people that deserve it. So let's move to the Big three
another creation. Yeah that, Igot a story to tell, Okay,
go ahead, got I mean it'sit's this is my partner right here.

(01:05:29):
So I gotta say. We wasbackstage overseas, backstage overseas, and you
came to me and you said hey. He turned on the side of he
was like, man, I'm thinkingabout putting together a basketball league. You
know, in my mind, Iwas listening to you, like all right,
cool. I know we talked toyou for real, but I didn't

(01:05:49):
really trip that it was going tobe where it's at right now. You
something your basketball, he said,summertime, and we really ain't got too
much to watch. It's baseball there, butture know we like baseball. Towards
the end, play a half ofyeah, the World Series. Yeah,
he was like, I'm thinking aboutputting together a three on three the way
we used to play. See y'alldon't realize that kill used to always back

(01:06:12):
then when we was younger. Hehad wrist mans with that basketball. He
was for real, like doctor Janeback and then the risk mans. Hey
time he used to go back andcome by his house, he'd be back
there hooping. And I mean,for real, I thought you was gonna
go basketball before football and rap,I really thought you was gonna go basketball.
He was for real and that nelementary. He know, he was for
real playing basketball. But when youtold me three on three, he was

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like, the way that we playall rules that three on three, you
gotta take the ball back, takeit back, you know. And I
was like, damn, Nick trippingfor real? I like, all right,
I hear it, but I don'tknow if it's gonna you know,
go and then later down the linewhat you just brought up from what you
just wentner this weekend. Amazing,amazing. I told him, I said,

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man, that was so because that'sexactly what how we play. Oh
we just went to half court manthree on three. Oh, you gotta
sit there at home. He's justthree, you know, and he created
this, uh this this this efessionalversion. Yeah, it's crazy, man.
You know, it's like just tookwhat we already two and elevated to
the professional level and get get thebest players that we can find at the

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three on three games, right.Yeah, it's a different game than five
on five. Five on five youcan you can be a specialist. You
could be a three point shooter,you could be a rebounder, you could
be a defensive guy not in theBig three. You gotta be able to
pass, dribble, shoot, anddefend or you're gonna get embarrassed, exposed.

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Definitely. Yeah, you don't getthe game is gonna get exposed because
it was it was warfare out there, man, it was personal. Is
one on one one you gotta lockup. The winning team gets paid more
than a losing team. That's whythey're playing hard. Ship Yeah, you

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know. So I was like,we've added as many incentives that as we
can to get them to play hard. And it's first to fifty, so
it's a sprint. Ain't nobody takingno minutes off because it ain't no minutes.
It's first to fifty and we gota fourteen second clock, so you
gotta you see how they were sweatingout. I watched the NBA game one

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time. The dude play forty eightminutes. He was bone dry. I'm
like, damn, is he outthere trying for really? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah, you gotta go with this. You gotta gotta play hard or
you gotta cover a big court becauseit's the same size as an NBA half
court, and uh, you gotthree people to cover cover that distance.

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I saw lately that you you know, something has been going viral. Obviously
Eve been having issues, uh withthe NBA. Um, what are some
of those challenges I want to sayissues, but challenges that you've been having
with them? Well, it's notyou know, when I say the NBA,
I mean the top brassy, Imean the you know, the corporate

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people, the lawyers. Not I'mnot talking about the players. They love
us. I'm not talking about thecoaches. I'm not talking about um the
you know, players, coaches,GMS, scouts and even owners love the
Big Three and they want to invest. And they've made that clear. Um,

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the NBA has a by law inits owners contracts that say if you
you cannot, you cannot invest moneyin a competing league. So they're saying
that the NBA is competing with thethe Big Three is competing with the NBA,

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And that's like the stupidest shit Iever heard. They make billions of
dollars and um, we're still tryingto get the league into it totally in
the profit so UM, it's justridiculous that they're holding us to that standard.
They don't do it with TBT,which is the Basketball Tournament NBA owners

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can invest in that. They don'tdo it with the slam ball shit that's
coming. What's the trip is anNBA owner can He can own a football
team, He can own a Majorleague soccer team, he can own a
baseball team, he can own apickle ball team, he can own a

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damn lacrosse team, yacht see,I don't give a fuck, But he
can't own the Big Three, andwe think that's bullshit. I think it's
to the point where, uh it'son some anti trust monopoly type shit going
on. Fucked up. Yeah,real fucked up, keep real fucked up.
You got to keep total control.You don't so the sponsors that you

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do have, do they get pressuresfrom them? Do they get pressures from
some of our sponsors have have?You know, um just stayed down with
us even though the NBA puts pressureon them not to work with us.

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Some has just not worked with usand told us as much, basically that,
um, we can't work with youbecause um, somebody from the NF
NFL, I mean sorry NBA camein and told us that that doing the

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deal with the Big Three will jeopardizea deal with the Wowzy. Well,
I mean, I guess that's themeasure a measure of success, you know
what I mean. At the sametime, right if you know it's successful,
Yeah, I mean, at theend of the day, they haven't
stopped us, and God willing,they won't be able to. All the

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takers are support you know, ifwe support the league and understand that I
did the leave for the people outthere and not just for myself support.
Um. Then then they they can'tdo nothing about it. The only way
they can do something about it isif people don't watch, people don't pay
attention to, people don't care,and then they can squash us. So

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um, we can beat them overnight. Yeah, everybody work, So everybody
yet out here and support the BigThree. It's amazing. I'm telling you.
It's action packed, it's fun.The entertainment is off the chain.
I mean it's a pack house.Man. We just had a great,

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great, great time. What gamesare left home? Where next? We
were in Memphis this Saturday, UM, and we got six games out there,
which is great. Boston, Charlotte, Miami, Detroit, Washington,
d c our Championship and All Stargames in London at the O two Arena.

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UM. Check us out, youknow, if we're in your city,
come check us out. Support.It's an affordable ticket. You can
bring the whole family. You won'tbreak the bank. The kids will love
you for it. And if youcan't make it to the game, check
us out on CBS or Big threedot com. You can check us out

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live, especially the games that's noton CBS. Check us out on Big
three dot com. You and uh, the mid Atlantic area. We're in
masking our own masking, which isuh, which is there are saying that
play sports, So check out theBig Three. Support the Big Three.

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We we bringing the fire all summeralong. Well. We definitely definitely going
to continue to support on this sandright here, and I'm quite sure everybody
here in the land is supporting.UM. I want to thank you,
like I said, once again,for always standing up going against the grain
when the grain ain't rolling like it'ssupposed to be rolling the grain exactly,

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you know, Um, that's whatyou bet your career off of, anyway,
standing up speaking in your mind.I love you for Thank you for
Big Three. Thank you for everythingthat you've done for the culture. And
for all those out there who wesee they can get us all say that

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all those out there gonna tuck yourtail like you know imally do. Thank
you once again, you guys,it's been good. I am Dove C
and I am still it always willbe CJ. Matt and we got the
Don Mega Ice motherfucking cute yeah onthe day Untune and then on the Dove

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C CJ. Maxhall much loved him. Spec y'all