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August 7, 2025 33 mins
For nearly four decades, Baba Sam Shelley’s life was defined by relentless illness: multiple sclerosis, bipolar disorder, chronic pain, and migraines. He was told his conditions were incurable. Yet, against all odds, Sam found healing—not through medicine, but through stillness and meditation. His story is a testament that a diagnosis isn’t a destiny, and that real healing comes from within.

Key Conversation Highlights:
  • A Life Transformed:
    Baba Sam shares his journey through years of debilitating illness, living with the weight of multiple diagnoses and the daily fear of what his body might do next. Despite being told by doctors that his conditions were permanent, he remained determined to find answers.
  • The Turning Point:
    A chance encounter at a paranormal event sparks Sam’s curiosity about the unseen world, eventually leading him to meditation. Through a simple practice—just five minutes, twice a day—Sam experiences a profound realization: he is not his thoughts. This awareness becomes the foundation for his healing.
  • The Power of Inner Stillness:
    Sam describes how shifting his focus from negativity and fear to presence and inner peace allowed his body to begin healing. Over time, he regains his health—no longer needing a cane, medication, or fearing heat intolerance.
  • Skepticism and Science:
    Scott and Sam discuss why the medical community often overlooks practices like meditation, and how belief and mindset play a crucial role in healing. Sam emphasizes that healing is highly individual, and that both medical care and inner work can have a place.
  • A Message of Hope:
    Sam’s story isn’t just about overcoming illness; it’s about reclaiming agency over your own life and wellbeing. He encourages listeners to slow down, become present, and let go of the “head trash” that keeps them stuck.
    Key Takeaways:
    • A diagnosis is information—not a life sentence.
    • Inner peace and presence can be powerful catalysts for healing.
    • The stories we tell ourselves shape our health and happiness.
    • Even small, simple practices (like a few minutes of meditation daily) can spark dramatic change.
    • Healing is possible—even when it seems impossible.
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    • Watch Scott on Dark Echoes Paranormal (Amazon Video, Paraflix, and coming soon to Apple TV)


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Speaker 1 (00:02):
He was sick, very sick, multiple sclerosis, bipolar disorder, chronic pain,
migraine after migraine. For thirty eight years, Baba Sam Shelley
lived a life most of us wouldn't choose and few
could endure. He was told it was incurable, unfixable, just

(00:28):
the way it was going to be. But then something changed.
He didn't find a miracle pill, he didn't stumble into
a groundbreaking treatment. Now he found something far more unexpected, stillness.
Through meditation and in her peace, Baba Sam experienced something
doctors couldn't quite explain. The illnesses disappeared, the king Don,

(00:56):
the medicine unnecessary. Now he's on a mission to tell
the world that a diagnosis isn't a destiny, that healing,
real healing, comes from within. I'm Scott Allan. This is
the Enlightened Life Podcast. And if you think you've heard
stories of transformation before, just wait and Roba Sam, welcome

(01:32):
to the Enlightened Life Podcast. You've been through a lot
decades of pain and the kind of struggle most people
can barely imagine, and yet here you are, and you're healthy,
whole and ready to share what you've learned. You know
it's a rare thing to turn a life like that around,

(01:55):
and even rarer to come out with the kind of
wisdom and peace that you can carry. So I'm really
glad you're here. I noticed conversation is going to be
something special, So thank you so much for joining me.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
It's real pleasure to be here as the guy. Really
an honor. I'm looking forward to our little conversation here.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I mean as well. You you lived with illness for decades.
What was it like to carry that weight around every
single day? Knowing your body was feeling you, but your
mind was still searching for answers.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yeah, that's really what it was. The mind was searching
for answers and there really was none out there in
the world. You know, you're constantly bombarded with the incurable stories.
You read all the medical literature and multiple scrosses, bipolar,
you know, whatever the condition may be, it's always with
a negative bias. They're always saying these are the worst
things that can happen, and of course the mind attaches

(02:50):
to that and that makes it becomes part of your reality. Oh,
I'm taking this medicine. These are the side effects that
come along with this medicine, and your body so clink
to Oh, so I'm supposed to be feeling fatigued. I'm
supposed to be feeling this from the medicine, and then
you're already naturally fatigued from multiple grosses and everything else.
It's really a lot of burden that the the body

(03:13):
really begins to carry because the mind is addicted this pain.
Body is always grabbing onto all this negativity. And if
we're constantly surrounded in negativity, well, how is your life
going to be molded? Because I know when I was
really going through a lot of stuff, I would wake
up every day like what else is going to go

(03:33):
wrong today? So when you're always focused on the wrong,
life goes in that direction. You know, I was always
asking questions like am I be all walk today? Can
I see today?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I have a migraine today. These are my real fears
that I had every day. But when you're consumed in fear,
life just goes in that direction that does not supportive
to living a happy, enjoyable life.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
So at what point did you realize that this path
that you were on on just wasn't working. Relying on doctors,
medications and treatments, they just weren't getting you any help
or healing.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, but I was still looking at the doctors in
a medicine because that was my world. I wasn't really
into the spirituality, this alternate health. It was always like
that's woo woo, that's out there, and it just sort
of wasn't really my world. And one of the things
that I remember when I was in my twenties bipolar,
suicidal in the hospital. So I didn't kill myself, it

(04:31):
was my uncle came in to my hospital. He's an
evil evangelical pastor, and he came into the hospital room.
They tried to cast the demons from my head, so
that that did not help. That actually closed some windows
with spirituality and religion because ford suddenly I'm possessed, I

(04:53):
have these demons in my head or something like that,
and it was just not supportive. It was really by
no chance you could say that I found the way
out because I was never I was always just in
this medical world of doctor's medicine diagnosis, and that diagnosis
did become my destiny because everything I was reading wasn't

(05:15):
reinforcing that I'm gonna be stuck with multiple growths forever.
I'm not gonna be a walk bipolar, the arthritis, the migraines,
everything was just going to stay in place because I
just consumed in this negativity that I call, you know,
the head trash. We really get this, this head trash

(05:35):
and this pain body built up from that head trash show.
It's really was finding a different way out. And the
way I found my way out was by only by chance.
But ultimately there is no chance or luck. It's a
matter to see that life unfold, does it needs to
unfold or our spiritual growth. But I know this doesn't

(05:56):
make sense for a lot of listeners. So with a
good but when I had multiple scrosses, I had a
lot of fatigue. It was difficult to walk. My vision
was really poor, so it was really challenging time. So
I remember at the end of the day I would
be completely wiped out, exhausted. Though I took down from
the TV. It was a copp potato well. One of

(06:17):
the things I used to like to watch was ghost
hunting shows, but I didn't know if it was real
or fake. It was this entertainment, something to watch. But
then I saw a tweet from the ghost Hunter, the
show that I was watching ghost Hunters watching that, and
I was like, Oh, there's an event here in Philadelphia.
I can go to that. You know, I can get
a room nearby because I know the fatigue is going

(06:38):
to be bad and it does too in the summertime,
so I'll need my cool invest with the MS because
the body really shuts down with heat. With multiple scrosses.
I'll get my cane. So I'd get all my gear
together to go to this event. And I did that,
but I know it was only going to be good
for even with all my gear, for about an hour,
maybe a little over an hour. So I did some

(06:59):
research on you know, Fort Mifflin and Philadelphia, and it's like, okay,
So apparently it's just if these ghosts are real, I
want to have an experience in the casemates if there's
anything to be witnessed of be in the casemates. So
they had all these groups going to different areas and
I was like, Nope, I'm going to the group with
the casemates. I'm not stinking with my grip. I'm going
over there. So I was in this area of the casemates.

(07:23):
There really wasn't much happening. One of the experience is
a few things that happened the one experience that really
got my attention. I'm sitting there on a bend in
the dark, you know, really not much is happening, and
I just felt somebody sitting next to me that didn't
have a body. There were somebody just sat there next
to me that the buddy like. Then I just felt
those overwhelming under dread come over me, Like okay, that's interesting.

(07:47):
So there's these ghosts are real.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And that's how to describe, isn't it. If you tell
somebody you found someone next and trust me, I get
it right, Like you have someone next to you that
doesn't have a body, likeeople think you're a little outdream
What do you mean? What does that feel like? How
do you even feel that to do?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, if you're just sitting on the bench,
you can tell someone when you sit next to you.
It was like the same thing. It felt somebody just
sit next to you, and it's like, oh, that's that's weird.
So these ghosts are real. So what this led me
to I was like, oh, well, who speaks to ghosts? Oh? Mediums.
So let me go read a book from a medium.

(08:26):
And I was reading this book from medium. I think
my mian Alison did. Wow. I'm not quite sure it
could have been her book I was reading. I don't remember.
It was a while ago. But in the book, eventually
they talked about meditation and how I used meditation to
get into their space for this communication. And one of
the things they talked about was the benefits of meditation,
and one of the benefits of meditation was inner peace.

(08:48):
And like, I need enter piece. I am so stressed,
so overwhelmed with life. So I had no clue that
meditation with great healing. I was just focused on, like
meditation creates inner piece. I need some inner piece. So
this book, to a page and a half on meditation,
was very very small section. So it is just basically

(09:12):
sick quietly and relaxes, basically the instructions. But it was
under the depression that when you sit in meditation, the
mind stopped thinking. So with this got me into so
the mind. I was sitting there relaxing, so the mind
starts thinking. I'd be like, oh, stop thinking, mind thinking,
stop thinking. Then there's about three four days like, wait

(09:32):
a second, wait a second. If I'm aware of my thoughts,
I'm not my thought. This is a huge realization for
me to see that. I had thought, if you're aware
of your thoughts thoughts, then I'm not my thoughts. If
I can witness my thoughts, because I realized I was
a thought chasing a thought. So that was a huge

(09:54):
epiphany to realize, Wait, I'm aware of my thoughts. I'm
a witness to my thoughts, but I'm not my I thought.
This was a huge realization because I took my thoughts
as a source of truth in my twenties and nearly
killed myself twice because of that mental darkness. So now
I had this awareness. Wait a second, I have thoughts, well,

(10:15):
not my thoughts. So my next question was, well, not
my thoughts, then who am I now? Before there's all
of that identity of personality, I have bipolar, I have MS.
I was completely identified with my diagnosis. So then I
was sitting with that question. But my meditation practice was
very simple. I was sitting five minutes in the morning,

(10:38):
five minutes in the evening. That was my whole practice,
five minutes twice a day with my practice very simple,
was sitting there quietly. But now what would happen when
mine would start thinking? I wouldn't say stop thinking anymore, like, oh,
where are my feet? I bring my attention back to
my feet. So that was my practice. So now, but
I was sitting with that question before I would go

(10:59):
and meditate, like, well who am I? So I didn't
sin with this question of who am I? And I
was doing that for maybe about two weeks. I was
sitting with that who am I? Question? And this one evening,
I just heard a voice say perfect spirit. I'm like,
that's it. My spirit is perfect. It's simply the body

(11:20):
and mind that are damage. Then it's really hard to describe.
When I was just sitting there, I just felt this
great sense of peace come over me. Then I just
had a knowing that all was well, and I just
knew all my health calendents were over. And that instant
I knew it was over. We'll put the body from
the time to catch up with that reality, but I

(11:42):
just knew it was all over. And the body start
to recover from that day. And then it was just
getting these either hearing the voice or that my intuition
or somethings of the feeling, and it'd be like okay,
Like one of the feelings they had was like to
do yoga. I just had an impulse to go do yoga.
So I didn't. The mind no longer had power or

(12:03):
makes of mine would have was go onto all the stories.
You don't have flexibility, you don't have balance, you can't
do yoga. The mine was in all these stories. I
just ignored it. I just trust, trusted this voice or
this knowing that I need to go do yoga. So
the next day I signed up for a monthly elemented
card at a yoga studio. I just did it.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
So six months after doing yoga, no more caine. I
was no longer heat intolerant, like the body was really
coming back. I was tapering off medication. I was really
you know, the body was really starting to make a
really strong recovery. And within fourteen months, no caine, no
heat intolerance, no medicine, no symptoms. The body is completely

(12:47):
recovered within fourteen months of hearing that voice.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
So let me, let'll be big. Meditation is really where
it started, right. Why do you think the medical community
dismisses healing practices like this? What do you think is it?
Is it? Do you feel that it threatens their authority
or financial profit?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Is?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
What is the reasoning behind it? Because where doctors didn't
understand how is this happening? Especially ms?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You know right right, yeah, because they're just never really
not taught that. You know that we were talking before
the show, is that doctors they're just treating symptoms. Y're
not looking for root causes. Like the doctors would never
ask me, like a hous your stress level, what's going
on besides my psychiatrists for the bipolar but it was

(13:37):
still medication. He never he never told me, well, have
you ever tried meditation or a mindfulness exercise to to
get you to settle the mind or anything like that.
And no, that wasn't his reality. And I can look
back today when I was suicide in my twenties, he

(13:58):
never wants to ask me why your thoughts to the truth, yes,
he too was his thoughts. He didn't have that separation.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
So you're healing with spontaneous and somedenight call it miraculous.
I just might say it's coincidence or even wishful thinking.
But how do you respond to people, how do you
respond to skeptics when they say it's nothing more than
let's say, a placebo effect.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, it's just really hard to explain. Like, like I
recently posted about this, Like you could have told the
old sick may that meditation will do this for you,
that yoga will help you with this, and I would
have discounted it because I was completely wrapped up in
the medicine world. It was really the pivotal moment for
me was ghost hunting because I needed something to ship

(14:49):
my reality. I needed this because I was always the
type that I had to see it to believe it.
But now suddenly, how somebody's sitting next to me that
doesn't have a body. So why are called these quantum
shifts where we have these moments in times where reality
just shifts and pivots dramatically. So it was that curiosity

(15:11):
on my part two, Oh somebody sitting next to me,
isn't that fun? And just ignore it? Like no, I
was curious. So the ghost hunting with curiosity allow that
door to be open. Without that curiosity say hey, is
there something more to this? Then nothing changes because when
I was in this medicine doctor world, I was only

(15:33):
reading about my ailments and the medicine and things. But
I wasn't exploring, like why am I taking this medicine forever?
Why is this incurable? Because they say it's incurable. Why
is it incurable for me? And that's why I want
individuals to see today that a diagnosis is simply information.

(15:54):
It's it's not your destiny unless you allow it to
be your destiny. So it's really about being curious and saying, oh,
they're saying that I'm incurable with this. I've been working
with a lot of Parkinson's patients lately, and I getting
into this deep space when I'm doing this interhaler work
with them who we can their own inter healer, and

(16:16):
I get them into this deep space and like, has
your spirit ever told you you're incurable? And they're like, no,
my spirit, my soul has never once said I'm incurable,
because we've remembered, like it says in the course of miracles,
that there's no degree of difficulties with the miracles, that
we are spirit, that we are soul, that we are consciousness.

(16:38):
The same energy that created the universe is within us.
But we don't know this because we're not taught this.
But the Yogis have been telling us this for three
four thousand years, and but we've been hijacked in a
way with all this negativity and all this bias.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Yeah, does belief have I have a part in this?
In other words, if you have someone who doesn't believe
but says, I'll humor you, I'll humor you, let me,
let me, let me work with you. Just just ultimately,
the belief in what's happening help or do you not

(17:21):
really have to believe?

Speaker 2 (17:23):
No, we have to realize the mind can go either way.
It can either assist with healing or keep the illness
in place. It can go either way. So if I
tell people, if you are the best medicine, the best doctor,
is the best surgeon, whatever it is, say you're going
for a surgery for something and you're absolutely convinced this

(17:44):
isn't going to work for me, it's not going to
work for you. But if you have a bloomber of
public I'm going to have this surgery. I'm going to
function better after that. Then that little bit of belief
allows that opening for healing. But if you go to
any situation saying this absolutely will not work for me,
then it will not. Your mind will shut that down.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
So I want to ask you too. And we talked
about this before the show. There's really a lot of
debate about alternative healing, and some call it dangerous or responsible,
especially if people reject additional treatments. So how do you
balance inhaling, you know, encouraging in your healing without discouraging
medical care.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah, it's really finding that balance for you. Sometimes the
body needs help. We have to understand. It's always about
getting quite, getting still. Usually we're very reactive. We hear something,
we pick up to what we attach. We need to stop,
pause and see how do we respond to this situation.
This doctor's giving me all this information doesn't resonate with

(18:48):
you or not. If it's resonating with you, like oh yeah,
it feels like this is right for me. The body
needs a little help. Let's do this. Like if you
broke your left arm, Yeah, the body can heal that fond,
but without help, it's going to go crook it. You know,
it needs to be set and needs to be Yeah,
so it goes back straight. So we need that little assistance.
So it's it's always finding that balance, that middle way

(19:11):
where you're acknowledging you the deeper essence and then the
material and then finding this middle way for you your
recipe forward because you're the one that's living in this body. Ultimately,
you know it's best for you, and others are giving
you information. Now, how do you respond to the information.
Most of us are just reacting to that, not taking

(19:34):
it in absorbing and say, Okay, that's a lot of information.
What part of this is right for me? And finding
my way forward? It's always about you know, finding your
way forward, because no one has your answers except you, right.

Speaker 1 (19:52):
Right, So your Inner Healing School encourages people to take
responsibility for their healing. What if they don't. Are there
circumstances where they just don't, or or that their illness
is just too far progressed or to involved to really work.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
No, that's I called individuals before that you are a
spirit that there's no degree of difficulties and miracles. I
was once called in on a cancer patient. When I
walked into the room, I saw little as she was
days away from death. I worked with her for ninety
minutes because she had all this negativity around her, all

(20:32):
these stories, and her body was confirming that because it
was stage four breast cancer mystasticized into the bones. Who's
really bad shape. But we worked together for ninety minutes
and she lived for another five years because we really
clear that negativity. It's like she reached a milestone. She
got to see her son graduate high school. And once

(20:55):
she's sung graduated high school and she's like, Okay, I'm done,
I can leave now.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So she wasn't healed, and she wasn't healed to the
extent that you know, everything's gone, the tumors are gone,
the cancer is gone. I'm going to live to be eighty.
But it encouraged, it created a little more longevity for her.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Right credit more long devity because you saw that there.
But I think she was doing really, really well. I
don't know what happened because she didn't really keep up
and keep in touch with me, so I can see
what was going on. So maybe I could insist to
her because when she showed up for one of my talks,
like on the two three years after a fall in
the hospital, and you would never know she had cancer.

(21:34):
She looked like a pillar of health. She looked like
she had absolutely no issues. So I said, it really
seemed like, oh, my son graduated, I'm fine, I can
leave now. But I think she like when I saw
her two three years later, she looked like the pillar
of health. You would never know anything was wrong with her.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
I mean, that's incredible, it's it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
So when your body began to heal, how did it
affect your relationships even you know, let's say the view
of the world around you. Did others start to see
and believe when they watched you?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Yeah, so what it mostly did. But people were asking like,
how did you do this? How did you do this?
How did you do this? So it was my motivation
for writing my first book. So that's why I wrote
my first book, was I don' dwell because constantly it
was dwelling in thoughts and I no longer was dwelling
in thoughts, so that I did write that first book
to explain that. But life shifted completely, you know, the

(22:31):
marriage ended at the corporate job, and that everything was
sort of falling away, that was no longer serving me.
Like my ex wife, she was still in that victim
mentality that life was against her, and she was still
in that very much that negative world and the medicine,
the doctors and all that. She just couldn't she couldn't

(22:51):
fathom me in my healing. It. This didn't make sense
because she was totally locked up in the medicine and
we look at my meditation practice as something that doesn't work,
or even though it was physically healing, it wasn't part
of her reality. She'd never had that quantum shift or
that shift in reality, so it just didn't work for her.

(23:11):
And then I was working a corporate job, even though
I was very sick. I was working a corporate job
and a pharmaceutical company, so they were completely understanding if
I need time off or whatever. So was it was
a perfect job for me to work. But one day
I saw these two managers arguing over some issues, some problem,
and I was off on the side laughing at them, like,
why you're taking this so serious? The world isn't going

(23:34):
to end, So it's a shift to my reality. Now
I don't take things so seriously. I just realized the
mind's just we have to realize that right and wrong
good in bead Or all from her mental perspective, So
there's no ultimate truth from the mind because it's just
all based on opinions and perspective. That like when I

(23:56):
talked to the doctor Gobor and Matte about my healing,
and he has me all these questions and he basically
summed it up that I stopped taking the mind as
a source of truth. And that's I think what real
people really need to do is stop picking your mind
as the source of truth. The truth is deeper within you,
that spirit, the soul, you're aliveness in the body. That's

(24:19):
your deeper essence. And if this doesn't make sense to you,
realize you had a toller body, a teenager body, a
young adult body, you had thousands of the bodies throughout
your life. But the one who sees, the one who hears,
the one who touches that has never changed. That's our
deeper essence.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
So ms typically we're told it's not curable, and you know,
of course there are cancers that aren't curable and that
you know, that kind of thing that you can live
with them and maybe the you know, medicine or whatever
it is can prolong your life. How is it the
case for you? Is it really gone? I don't know
if there's a genetic marker, if there's a test for it,

(25:01):
or is it just in remission type of a thing.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Well, if you look at my doctors and this was
twelve years, yeah, it's been actually thirteen years. And that's
been thirteen maybe fourteen years since I left on my doctors.
All my conditions they put in remission because to them
there was no getting rid of They've put everything in remission.
But that's been for thirteen years now with no medicine
and no nothing. So it's just a matter of like

(25:28):
we have to remember that we are consciousness, spirit and
all things are possible, and we operate and live from
this place. That's why I talk to people through the
advanced Parkinson's and they are making interesting progress when they
start coming back into who they are and finding their balance.
So who knows what's going to happen with them. But

(25:51):
the ultimate thing is the body may be unwhelmed, but
we're here to enjoy life. So we're we're enjoying life
to the rest of our ability, and the body of
we'll usually catch up to that enjoyment, that energy that
we're pinning up there. That I was always in a
negative bias. When you put to a positive bias, life
works out better because you were always miserable, destressed and

(26:14):
pain and it's really hard when you're in pain to
find that happiness. But you need to find a way
to turn it around that what's that thing that you
do like to enjoy? Like there's that story that somebody
was sick with cancer or something. So they used to
watch comedy shows all the time and to stay in
a place of laughter, enjoy and things turn from them.
So it's always finding that that thing that can bring

(26:37):
you into more of a positive or uplifted mood. Because
if you're miserable, you know you're in a lot of pain,
you're in a lot of discomfort. Life will keep in
that direction. But if you find a way to elevate
that mood, then life you give yourself an opportunity. Like
we talked before, that belief systems I can't or I

(26:58):
can when you literally thing like, oh I can heal
from spirit. Spirit can show me the way to maybe
not get rid of this, but live a more enjoyable life,
because maybe there are some things within the body where
it just really just decayed or worn down or whatever.
It's still possible for recovery, but maybe to the point

(27:21):
where you really can't recover the body as much as
you would like. Because I saw for myself that I
healed that pivotal time, because my MS was in the decline,
I saw a permanent wheelchair was coming in my future
rather quickly, so I was able to catch that right
in time before the body declined to that point. Because

(27:41):
once you get into the wheelchair and you start having
that atrophy and the muscles and something, it becomes even
more of a challenge. But who knows, everything is possible
if you're willing to have that patience with yourself and
let go of all criticism and judgment of self. That's
really one of the biggest keys that I've seen is
removing all judgment and all criticism because we have to

(28:05):
understand that our skill levels are where they are in
this moment, and the mind will always look back and say, oh,
you could do better. It's like no, at that particular
point you were. You were doing the best you could
at that point. So the mind always wants to look back.
It's like, no, you let go of all judgment, all
criticism because that judgment and criticism will keep that things

(28:27):
in place. And I see people autoimmune disease where the
body is attacking itself. I had three of them. And
what's happening When you're judging and criticizing yourself. You're poisoning
your own inner environment. You're keep your triggering autoimmune diseases.
So you need to change that mood and that there's

(28:47):
many components to autommune disease, but one of them is
our inner environment. If you change that inner environment, then
that's one less thing for the autommune to cling onto.
And I see immune turn around when the judgment and
criticism stops and you just say, nope, my skill levels
are where they are. Ignore the mind, it's not your

(29:09):
source of truth.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Wow. So after all those years of being sick, what
surprised you the most about being healthy?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Just feels still surreal that I was sick for so long.
It's like, wow, I can actually you know, and you
can enjoy life. You know. I was talking to one
of my students. She said, I was actually able to
stand up for my whole shower. It's like, that's beautiful
because I know when I had MS, I had a
shower seat, I couldn't stand for a shower. And now

(29:37):
I hear from my students, he's like, yeah, I was
able to stand for my whole shower.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
Wow, that's amazing, that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
So see the little things we take for granted that
we are able to do now that we forget. Like
at one point in my life, I couldn't go get
myself a glass of water. I couldn't stand for a shower.
All these little things that we take for granted, and
it just to do those things is a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
So what would you say to someone who's listening right
now and who might be feeling trapped by their own diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Yeah, if they're feeling trapped, and then reach out. I'm
beyond head trash with my site when I'm all over
social media, I have hundreds of videos. I have my
Vibrant Soul Society, Interheerer School. There are resources out there
that will will show you a different way forward, and
it doesn't have to be a long time. I have

(30:33):
videos out there since sixty seconds to inner peace. We
only need a minute to come back to who we are,
and it's just a matter of just like slowing down,
stop reacting and learn to respond to become present. And
if you'll know what present is is to realize that

(30:53):
you're listening right now, that you're sitting at your feet
on the floor, that's present, that we're either lost in
our thoughts or we're fully here. And once you become
fully here, then you're aligned with your spirit, your soul
because your spirit, your soul is always in this moment,
and anytime you're lost in thoughts, you're in a way
you're disconnecting from yourself and your own wisdom, your own truth.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Anything else you want to say before we close.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Up, Yeah, just to the best. The best thing you
can really do for is just to rely to stop
leaving all those stories as your truth. Ultimately, the deeper
truth is within you. It's not outside of you, and
it's just amount of learning to go within and to
realize I had a very simple practice. I feel doing

(31:43):
practices for one or two minutes, and that's all it requires,
is is putting those gaps in the thought stream, the
little gaps in the thought stream, and more and more
peace will come because they have actually, they have done
a lot of studies that thirty days of meditation make
ex dramatic changes within the body. Thirty days and it

(32:04):
could be a very simple one to two minutes of
presence and your blood markers will be different in a month.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
That's great, Thank you so much. Baba. Sam's journey my
Friends reminds us that sometimes the greatest battles we face
aren't just with our bodies, but with the stories that
we tell ourselves. For nearly four decades he lived with
a shadow of what medicine called incurable, and yet he
found a way not to his science alone, but to

(32:36):
something quieter, deeper, and profoundly personal. You want to learn
more from Baba Sam, visit his website at beyond headtrash
dot com, a place where healing begins with the mind
and the heart. And if you'd like to explore your
own path, you can find me at Mediumscott Allen dot com.

(32:56):
There you can book a private reading, dive into my work,
and even grab a copy of my book, In the
Presence of Light For those who love the mysterious and unexplained.
Catch me on got Gecko's Paranormal, streaming now on Amazon
Video and Paraplexit coming soon to Apple TV. Thank you
for joining us on the enlighten Light podcast. Until next time,

(33:18):
take care of yourself, because sometimes the story isn't over,
it's just beginning. We'll see you next time.
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