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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It began with a breath and the stillness after Melanie's memorial.
OH sat in meditation, searching for comfort, for a sign,
for something, anything that might ease the ache of sudden loss.
Then the quiet, the presence, the gentle, familiar, unmistakably heard.
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It was the start of a conversation that would change
everything well understood about love, loss, and the enduring connection
between two souls, one here and one beyond. My guest
today says to grief can be a doorway and that
true love doesn't end, transforms. I'm Scott Allen, and you're
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listening to the Enlightened Life podcast, where we explore the
mysteries of the soul's journey, healing and transformation.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Let's get started. Much for having me, Scott, I really
appreciate you. You allow me to come on the show
and share my story with your audience.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
My pleasure. Take us back a little bit to the beginning,
if you would. How did you and Melanie first meet
and when did you realize your connection was something extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was a nightlife promoter for many years on the
West side of Los Angeles. I worked at a place
called the Buffalo Club, where I was hosting their Friday nights.
And I met Melanie in twenty fifteen, and I think
I was walking to the door and she walked in
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and our eyes met, and I just immediately felt this
magnetic connection and I was kind of nervous to talk
to her, and I went over to the bar and
I asked the manager to send her a drink, and
then we kind of danced around the idea of dating
for a long time, but it never really happened. The
timing the stars never aligned. But every time that I
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spent time with her, that same sensation kept returning to me,
and it was like nothing that I had ever felt.
And we finally took a shot on May sixteenth of
twenty twenty three. That was our very first date, and
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on May eighteenth of twenty twenty four is when I
lost her. So it was really kind of just one
year of actually being involved romantically with her after a
eight year pursuit, so to speak. So there was just
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something that I felt that was different that I had
felt a few times in my life, where it's almost
like a tingling sensation and knowing inside your being that
I know this person. I looked her in the eyes
and every time I looked her in the eyes, and
I couldn't figure it out. And we would spend hours
at a time just staring into each other's eyes. And
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I feel like she was struggling with some past traumas
that were making it really tough for her to receive love.
And she knew she was sensitive to energy, and she
knew that what I was feeling was real because she
could feel what I was feeling, and she knew that
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it was honest, but she couldn't really feel it herself,
if that makes sense. She was sexually abused when she
was four years old, and that trauma was suppressed. At
fifteen years old, she started taking adderall and it was
buried even deeper. And then she realized at about thirty
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years old she needed to get off the adderall. She
was in a toxic relationship at the time. We had
kind of been out of contact for about three years,
three four years, and she came back around. She came
back into my orbit, and she told me that she
had realized that she needed to get off the Adderall.
She needed to get out of the relationship, and she
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found breath work and used breath work as a tool
to clear all that traumatic energy. And we took a
shot together for about a year and in February of
twenty twenty four she went back to the adderall. She
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kind of backpedaled and hid it from me, and she
was gone by May. But she worked really really hard
to try and heal her nervous system. And when she
got free of the adderall and off the birth control
and cleared, that started clearing that traumatic energy. Her psychic
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abilities opened up. Melody was very gifted. She on multiple
occasions she was able to read my mind. And I
think that for people that are sensitive to energy and
have these gifts, a lot of times the answer in
western medicine is, oh, you're crazy, we need to put
you on medication. And there's not a safe place, or
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not many there are safe places, but they're tough to
find for people who are understanding and realizing that they
have these abilities. And Melanie was. She had her breath
work community. I think she was trying to find that,
but it was it was difficult for her to bridge
the gap between her new life and her old life.
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And she had a very strong family life, and it
was she was almost kind of like the the black
Sheep that not everybody understood that kept a lot to
herself because of the gifts that she had.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
Do you know if she had these gifts her whole
life or is that something that came up later on?
And it's probably because a lot of times people wake up,
you'll have this awakening.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, I don't know. She never really She would
give me small little insights into the gifts that she had.
For example, she had the ability to read my mind,
which was it was mind blowing in certain instances where
one time I was surprising her because she wanted me
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to be a little bit more spontaneous, and so I
tried to introduce a little mystery into the relationship. And
she was staying at Airbnb and Topanga and I said, Okay,
I'm just going to pick you up at five o'clock
and the rest is going to be a surprise. And
she's poking at me, what do I wear? What do
I wear? And I told her what to wear. And
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when I finally picked her up, the first thing she
says is are we going to the Seventh ra A
which was a restaurant into Panga Canyon. And I'm just like,
how did you know that? And like I told you,
you can't hide anything from me. And then we were
going down PCH from to Panga to Santa Monica to
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go to the Victorian in Santa Monica first for a
salsa dancing night afterwards, and as soon as I turned
on PCH, she says, are we going to the Victorian
for salsa nite? So it was there was some moments
in our relationship that were absolutely fascinating, where you know,
I had a little bit of a sports gambling addiction
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and on a Saturday I had lost a bunch of money,
and so Sunday was date day because I worked on Saturday,
and she had come over and she's like, something's wrong,
and I was like, I just I'm hung over. I
had too many espresso martinis at work yesterday. She's like,
something else is wrong. I was like, I lost a
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lot of money yesterday betting on football. And she's like,
I told you, you can't hide anything from me. So
she Those were the two instances, and there was maybe
one more instance where she was expressing that she could
read my mind, but she never she didn't want to
burden anybody with her gifts. So I don't know how
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long they lasted, but for me, the trauma was the
trauma was definitely what unlocked my abilities. And Melanie, she
ripped my shot, gone out of the closet in our
bedroom and shot herself in the chest with it, and
I found her at the foot of our bed. And
the moment I found her, it was like all of
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her trauma was transferred over to me. And processing that
and working through that my spiritual abilities. And I've always
felt like I've been pretty intuitive with things, but the
things that have happened to me since I've lost her,
I wouldn't have even believed are possible. And it's been
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quite the journey.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, I can't imagine. You know, I've worked with a
lot of people who have a lot who have lost
a lot of people. I was a funeral director for
over three decades, almost four decades actually, and you know,
I've dealt with a lot of really traumatic situations. And
you know, no, there's no rhyme nor reason. Many times
people will, as I said, have this sort of spiritual
epiphany or awakening when they go through this. I'd like
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to jump forward just a little bit because you describe
your first communication with her after her passing is really
life changing. Can you maybe talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, So I'll give you kind of the first brief
the first communication that I actually realized. I was sleeping
in her bed at her parents' house and this is
the night after she had done what she did, and
I'm lying and my hands are on my chest like this,
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and I woke up about four o'clock in the morning.
And this is the first night that it actually kind
of got some shut eye. I think it was two
nights later, after a breathwork meditation, I finally fell asleep.
I woke up about four am and my left hand raised.
It raised like this, about three inches off my right
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and it was involuntary. I didn't use any muscles to
do it. And then it kind of set itself back down,
and I'm thinking, like, I'm like, that's got to be Melanie,
And you know, but I was going through so much
shock and trauma at the moment that I was like,
am I losing my mind? So I didn't fully believe.
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I mean, I thought that that was something was there,
but I didn't know for sure yet, and I was
questioning myself because I was wondering if I was delusional
because I hadn't slept, I hadn't eight and so, but
I was curious. So the first night that I actually
stayed in my room was probably about ten twelve days
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after she had passed, after her funeral service, and I'm
lying in bed after a breathwork meditation. And Melanie was
after she had cleared all this energy for herself, the
next partner her healing process was to become a breathwork facilitator.
So I was one of her first kind of pupils
that she had taught breathwork to. And it's really what
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I used to clear the sadness and the energy that
was trapped within me after I lost her. So I'm
in a breathwork meditation in my bedroom where she committed
suicide for the first time staying in my house by myself,
and that hand raising experience was it was, you know,
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on the forefront of my mind and had been for
a while. So after my meditation, I'm still in state,
and I just said I'm going to ask. I said, Melanie,
are you here? And before the words even got all
the way out of my mouth, I felt this euphoric
surge of electricity through my body, through all my chakras,
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all my energy centers in my body, and I realized
that I could ask her yes or no questions, and
when the answer was a yes, this charge of electricity
would come through my body and the answer was a know,
nothing would happen. But I noticed after I got all
excited because I'm like, Okay, she's here, I have the
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ability to communicate. Whether I've never done anything like this before,
this is all brand new to me, but what's happening
inside my body, and it was a similar sensation to
the sensation that I felt every time I looked into
her eyes. So I've since been visited by many more spirits,
but Melanie's energy when it comes, I know what it
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feels like. I know that it's her, and she doesn't
need to show me images or anything like that for
me to be able to identify that it's her when
she comes. Got a little bit sidetracked there, but so
so I asked her. I realized that the surge of
electricity was kind of dissipating as we got deeper into
the question sessions. So I said, is it difficult for
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you to communicate like this? And I got a big yes.
I said, do you want me to find a medium
so that you can communicate more directly? With me and boom,
I got a big charge of electricity. I started asking
her if she wanted to see certain people in her life.
I got yesses for some and knows for others. I
asked her if she wanted to see her breath work teacher,
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David Elliott got to know on that. I asked her
if she wanted to see her breathwork friend Kia. I
got a yes on that. When I then went to
go try and find a medium. I called her breath
work teacher, who I had gone to see a couple
times because I knew that he was tied into that community,
to the energy community, and he said, I've got a
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medium that is really good that I will reach out
to to see if it's okay for you to contact.
And I contacted him and he wouldn't do it reading
for at least a year. And I knew that Melanie
wanted us to do a reading, and so that's why
she didn't want me to go through David because his
medium wasn't going to do a reading for us. But
her friend Kia referred us to a woman named Brandy,
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who ended up doing a four hour reading for me
and her family. And that was my first experience ever
with a medium, and I kind of went into that
situation even though I felt like I was being led
to her. It was my first time, and you want
you don't know whether or not this person is legitimate.
And the first thing she said that really perked my
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ears up to be like, Okay, there's something here is
she said that, you know, Melanie's throat chakra was locked
up and she didn't have the ability to tell her story.
And once I got that, I knew, Okay, she's coming
through here, and it was pretty powerful experience for me.
That was my first and I've since I've worked with
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two more mediums after that, and each time my mind
is blown just a little bit more.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So can you talk about the significance of the butterfly
and the sunflower?
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah? So Melanie, like I said, she was at four
years old, she was sexually abused. She'd kind of suppressed that,
never really dealt with that. At fifteen, when she went
to high school, she took a sexual interest in boys
for the first time. All that sexual abuse trauma came
up and she was having a difficult time focusing in school,
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and her parents didn't understand that she was depressed. Doctor
put her on adderall and for fifteen years it worked,
but she was kind of when we went to the
Portugal the Man concert at the Hollywood Bowl and I
was coming up with a nickname, and there was a
band there that was called Chicano Batman and Melanie, she's
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got her mother's side, has some Mexican blood in them.
And I said, I'm gonna call you mechs email, kind
of as a joke, and she's like, now, you can
do better than that. And right then there it came
to me. I said, how about Butterfly. You know, you
were struggling with all this trauma and kind of buried
it in this adderall addiction, and you finally cleared that
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energy and you were like a caterpillar in a cocoon.
But now you have these big, beautiful butterfly wings and
you're ready to take flight. And you know, she loved it,
and so I started calling you. I'd answered the phone
high Butterfly, and that was Hurt, my nickname for her
while she was alive. And my second session with a
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medium was with a woman named Aaron the Angel, and
Aaron had told me that sunflowers were huge for me.
She goes some Melanie's shown. She says sunflowers are big
for you. And at the end of our session, I
was like, well, what about Sunflower by post Malone, which
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is a song and Melanie has found ways to use
music put lyrics in my head, and when I plug
a song into YouTube, there'll be a chain of songs
that come through and messages that come through the lyrics
and the music videos that I'm watching. And or Brandy
had said that one of the easiest ways for spirit
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to communicate is through technology because it vibrates at a
similar frequency. So I've had a bunch of communication that's
come through technology. Music has been a big one, and Sunflowers.
When I heard the lyric You're my sunflower, You're my sunflower,
I got that same upork charge of electricity, and then
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I started thinking about butterflies and sunflowers, and I'm like, Okay, well,
she's still my butterfly, and now I'm her sunflower, and
she is offering insights from the spirit world from the
other side, and I'm like a sunflower that's downloading all
of this information that's coming in for it. And that's
how Sunflower Signals was born.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
So wonderful, but I need to say too, because you know,
for me, my awakening happened later in life as well.
And you know, I feel like there were signs maybe
early on, I didn't understand them. I didn't think it
was what it really was, and you chuck things up
to coincidence. Was there ever a moment? I mean, let's
be honest, it's only been a year, you know, and
for you, you're on this high speed trajectory. It took
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me a few years, even once I understood what was
going on, to really own it. Do you ever doubt
your experiences or even wonder if your mind was just
searching for comfort rather than it being what it truly was.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I did in the beginning, and even now I find
myself in conversations with people who are curious about what happened,
and I can see the doubt. And probably about ninety
five percent of the people that I speak with, I
can see the doubt in their eyes. And you know,
one thing I've learned is that we're supposed to live fearlessly,
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so I'm not supposed to let that affect me. But
I try not to waste my energy with people who
don't get it. But the doubt existed early on, but
so much has happened to me since then. Aaron the Angel,
who was the second woman that I've worked with, who
has a chapter in the book, she told me she
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goes most people spiral up spiritually. She's like, for whatever reason,
you're on a rocket ship. And the first book ends
as really I'm learning like new median forms of communication
have come through to me. It's difficult for Melanie to
charge my chakras, to charge my energy centers because she
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I think she runs out of energy on the other
side and she needs to go back to the light
in order to gather more energy. And I'm guessing, like
I don't know for sure, there's no way for sure,
but something along along the lines, I've hurt charge to
get more energy to be able to shock my energy
centers like that. Well, I have the ability, and I've
had When they want to send me messages, I get
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dots and dashes and twitches in my body and I
realized it was Morse code. It's either Morse code or
it correlates with a letter, so ten, for example, Jay
is really difficult for me to decipher in Morse code.
When they want to give me a J I'll get
ten dots for the number ten, and I correlate it
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with Jay. Sometimes it's a date, It'll be like six
twenty seven, and so I go back to my journal
and I see what I journaled on June twenty seventh.
And then something that I've journaled from an idea that
I got or a message that I had felt had
come through some music or a sign in synchronicity. Now
I'm seeing that message in the real world. So the
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thing for me that I think is challenging is I
don't have any doubt because there's so many things that
I've predicted that then end up coming through. But it's
in the moment when the message comes through. I got
no idea. Sometimes, I mean, I've had I get messages
through my featured photos on my iPhone, where I've got
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twelve thousand photos on my phone. In the Morse code
and the featured photos they barely make it into the
end of the first book. Those are going to be
more detailed in the second book.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
But well, and I'm going to predict something for you.
I mean, I'm going to predict something for you because
it's very common that when you open up and when
you have this awakening. It's really in your face. It's
like a puzzle coming through. It's a need to get
your attention, and they know you don't know how to
understand any other way. So don't be surprised if it changes.
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It will become, in my experience, much more. That's the word,
just much more nuanced, but also extremely accurate, like you'll
just know, And that's sort of hard to explain to
someone you may not get the big things. For me,
it was all visual for a for a while, you know,
like quite a bit, quite a bit of time after
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I started opening up. It's visual, but it it's just
not the same way now. It's you just have this
intuition that.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You just know.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I used to I used to feel them too. I
used to feel that electricity from your head to your brain.
I don't get that it hasn't gone away completely, but
it's not the sole way of communication. So as Milanie's
soul begins to go up to higher vibration and she transcends,
you will as well, and I think you'll both go
together in that way. At least That's been my experience
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and the experience of others that I've been with. So
as I see you talking about a second book. Don't
be surprised when there's a third, because I feel like
you're going to see all of these changes happening around
you and you'll have new experiences to talk about.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, and what you're saying is totally I'm totally starting
to feel that to where I used to not get
the images, but now and like I said, other spirits
are now coming through to me with messages that they
want me to share. And then as soon as I
sent share the message, it's like, Okay, my job's done.
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You know. I can't force people to go and work
with somebody to have a conversation with their medium. Sometimes
what I've realized is all I need to do is
share the message sometimes. But I get those images now
at the end of at the end of a breathwork session,
like I'll see a teammate of mind from college who
who will show me an image of a picture that
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I know of them, and I'll and I'll say Drew,
and boom, my chakras will light up. And that's happened
probably with about two dozen people that I know that
have passed that want to let their family members know, Hey,
if you need to get in touch with me, you
have the ability to do so. And Aaron had told
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me that Melanie, she'll be there for me and she'll
she'll be a spirit guide for me for the rest
of my life until I've had probably about another dozen
messages come through that she's going to come back as
my daughter. And the one year with my soulmate, you
know that feeling that I always always felt. I had
a realization. I was at Alchemy Yoga and Uluatu and
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I was journaling after my session with Aaron the Angel,
and Aaron had told me that your grandfather, Marty is
We'd realized it was my grandpa Marty, but he was
on my right and Melanie was on my left, and
she said, he's been with you since the accident. I'm like,
why would Marty be with me since the accident? You know,
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he was not only there to be a spirit guide
for me, but he was also there to help his
mother transition. Melanie was my grandfather's mother in her past life,
and I was her husband. William Pellegrimia Williams, who was
my grandfather's father. And William Pellegrimia Williams was a marine
and a tuberculosis doctor that died at thirty two years old,
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and Melanie lost me when I was thirty two years
old in our last life, and I lost her when
she was thirty two years old in this life. And
this was the completion of some kind of a karmic
cycle between us, which the moment that I had that realization,
and the reason that my grandfather was there is he
was there to help his mother transition. In the moment
that I had that realization, it was just like it's
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like I hit the jackpot in Las Vegas inside my
body on a slot machine. If that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Wow, So how has your understanding of love and loss
changed since she passed.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I don't think that loss and love go together. If
love does exist, then I'm sorry. If reincarnation and the
ability to come back, or if the soul goes on,
which I fully leave now, love has the ability to
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transcend time. So loss, as we think about it, is
only unique to the ego that exists right here, right
now in Bow and Scott right like we have. Our
ego has the ability to lose, but our soul doesn't.
If the love is real. And so I think that
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that for me is for whatever reason I've been trying
to lean in. There's two paths that I could have gone.
I could have gone the woe was me I lost
the love of my life, I lost my soulmate. Or
I could go the path of what am I meant
to learn? Why is the universe want me to go
through this? And what am I meant to learn from this?
And what am I meant to create out of it?
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And that's the path that I've chosen to where Okay, Well,
if Melanie's going to come back and if breath work
was her dream, then I can build a foundation for
it so that she can roll right into that when
she does come back as my daughter.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
What do you hope readers take away from your books.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I really hope that it gives people comfort in knowing
that the love doesn't die. It's not going to be
gone forever, but for whatever reason, for right now, this
is what your soul is meant to go through. I
hope that it opens people's eyes. I hope that people
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that are struggling with loss realize that you do have
the ability to communicate with your loved ones on the
other side as long as you are open to it.
I hope that people that are struggling with trauma and addiction.
Come out of the book feeling inspired. Okay, whatever it
is that I'm going up against, I can find a
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way to beat it. And I'm trying to get tools
like breath work and ice baths and journaling and hit fitness,
which hit fitness I associate with fire, breat work, I
associate with air, ice bats, I associate with water. Journaling,
I associated associate with element. And then if you can
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remove alcohol from that equation as well, then you're removing
spirits and you're allowing the crown chakra to be open
to the downloads from the universe. So those earth, air, fire, water,
and spirit. If you lean into those things, I think
that we all potentially have these spiritual gifts. And for
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whatever reason, through the educational system that currently exists, I
think that you know, cultures like the Hopie Indians and
the Mayan and some of the ancient civilizations, they understood
and recognized this stuff. But just for people to know
that think outside the box, don't be afraid to think
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outside the box, live fearlessly, and then everything we do
should come from a place of love and light. That's
what I really hope comes through in the book, Don't
be afraid to be honest, don't be afraid to share
your truth. It's okay to be the black sheep. It's
okay to carve out your own path. It's okay to
let people go in your life.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
So I'd love to take a minute for you to
talk about really anything you want to talk about now,
how people can find you, or there could be a
story or message or practice you'd love listeners to try,
just something that they can take with them today.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
If you want to reach out to me directly, I've
done a couple other shows, and since the books come out,
I'm making myself available to anybody that wants to communicate.
My website at Sunflower Signals dot com. You can fill
out the form there to reach out to me. You
can direct message me on Instagram, where you can find
all my socials, you can find information about the retreat.
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You can find a link to the book on Amazon,
so all that is available. It's pretty transparent as far
as getting in contact with me. I'm Aarondiangel told me
that Melanie and I are a way show and I've
got mediums that I've worked with that are very gifted
from Brandy to Aaron the Angel, to Amajee, And depending
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on what I feel like it might be what somebody's
looking for, I would kind of steer them to one
of those two three ladies to whether it's finding healing
or just communicating with somebody on the other side, or
if they need a life coach and somebody to kind
of walk them through that. I feel like each one
of them has their own little gift when it comes
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to that. So I'm here as a resource for you,
and I feel like I've been called upon by my
higher self and the universe to be I was a
nightlife promoter forever, and now I feel like I'm a
way Shehller, a promoter for the energy community as I
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continue to hone my gifts. I'm not ready to do
readings or anything like that myself, but I can point
you in the right direction for people that are very gifted.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Oh thank you so much for sharing your journey with
us and Melanie's ongoing life, and for listeners who want
to learn more. You can find both books and the
Sunflower Seeds podcast online and discover about the Butterfly Effect
retreat at his website at Sunflower Signals dot com and
as always you visit my website www dot Mediumscottallen dot com,
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