July 11, 2025 • 29 mins
Step into the shadows with us on this special episode of The Enlightened Life Podcast. Psychic Medium Scott Allan welcomes John Griffin and Jaclyn LaRen Fallara—cast members of the hit series Dark Echoes Paranormal—for an unfiltered conversation about what really happens when the lights go out at some of the Northeast’s most haunted locations.
With the upcoming live event at the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, just around the corner, Scott, John, and Jaclyn pull back the curtain on the world of paranormal investigation. From the meticulous preparation and protective rituals to the surprising social bonds forged during late-night ghost hunts, nothing is off-limits. The team also shares the origins of Project Apparition Hall, their commitment to authenticity, and the biggest misconceptions they face in the field—including why “not everything’s a demon.”
Packed with behind-the-scenes stories, a look at what makes the Twisted Vine so infamous, and an invitation for you to join the live streaming event, this episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about life after death, haunted places, and the real work of spirit communication.
In this episode of The Enlightened Life Podcast, Psychic Medium Scott Allan is joined by John Griffin and Jaclyn LaRen Fallara from Dark Echoes Paranormal. Together, they dive deep into the haunted history of the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, and discuss what it takes to conduct a real paranormal investigation.
You’ll hear about:
00:00 – Welcome to the Enlightened Life Podcast
01:00 – Meet the Cast of Dark Echoes Paranormal
02:57 – Investigating the Twisted Vine
05:42 – Preparation for Haunted Investigations
10:53 – Project Apparition Hall Explained
11:42 – Live Streaming the Investigation
12:35 – Behind the Scenes of Dark Echoes
17:46 – Misconceptions About the Paranormal
20:38 – Looking Forward to July 20th
24:30 – The Professionalism of Matt
29:26 – Closing Thoughts and Invitation
Key Takeaways:
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With the upcoming live event at the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, just around the corner, Scott, John, and Jaclyn pull back the curtain on the world of paranormal investigation. From the meticulous preparation and protective rituals to the surprising social bonds forged during late-night ghost hunts, nothing is off-limits. The team also shares the origins of Project Apparition Hall, their commitment to authenticity, and the biggest misconceptions they face in the field—including why “not everything’s a demon.”
Packed with behind-the-scenes stories, a look at what makes the Twisted Vine so infamous, and an invitation for you to join the live streaming event, this episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about life after death, haunted places, and the real work of spirit communication.
In this episode of The Enlightened Life Podcast, Psychic Medium Scott Allan is joined by John Griffin and Jaclyn LaRen Fallara from Dark Echoes Paranormal. Together, they dive deep into the haunted history of the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, and discuss what it takes to conduct a real paranormal investigation.
You’ll hear about:
- The unique energy and chilling stories behind the Twisted Vine
- How the Dark Echoes team prepares for investigations, including protective rituals
- The mission and methods behind Project Apparition Hall
- Why authenticity matters—and what sets real investigators apart from TV stereotypes
- Common misconceptions about hauntings (hint: “not everything’s a demon”)
- The importance of community and humor in ghost hunting
- What to expect from their upcoming live streaming event
00:00 – Welcome to the Enlightened Life Podcast
01:00 – Meet the Cast of Dark Echoes Paranormal
02:57 – Investigating the Twisted Vine
05:42 – Preparation for Haunted Investigations
10:53 – Project Apparition Hall Explained
11:42 – Live Streaming the Investigation
12:35 – Behind the Scenes of Dark Echoes
17:46 – Misconceptions About the Paranormal
20:38 – Looking Forward to July 20th
24:30 – The Professionalism of Matt
29:26 – Closing Thoughts and Invitation
Key Takeaways:
- The Twisted Vine is known for its haunted history.
- Dark Echoes Paranormal focuses on real, authentic investigations.
- Preparation includes protective rituals and a deep respect for Spirit.
- Project Apparition Hall aims to understand spiritual entities—not just chase thrills.
- Not all hauntings are what you see on TV—misconceptions abound.
- The social and community aspect of ghost hunting is vital.
- You’re invited to join the live event and participate in the experience.
About Scott
WEB:
Want to connect with Spirit, get a private reading, or attend a live event? Visit mediumscottallan.com for bookings, event updates, and more.
PATREON:
If you love these stories and want to support more episodes, check out my Patreon for behind-the-scenes content, bonus Q&As, and special perks for supporters.
Scott's Patreon
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Sub venues are famous for their food, sub for their history,
and some like the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, are
known for the stories that linger long after the lights
go out. On July twentieth, we're going to be gathering
for a night of spirit, suspense, and maybe a little
supernatural mischief. But tonight we're getting together to swap stories,
share some laps, and get ready for an event that
(00:24):
promises to be anything but ordinary. Welcome to the Enlightened
Life Podcast. I'm Scott Allen, and around here we believe
in good energy, open hearts, and the occasional goosebump. Tonight,
I'm joined by my cast mates from Dark Echos paranormal
cast Beansberg, John Griffin and Jacqueline Loren are sharp eyed
(00:44):
lead investigator and the one most likely to keep us
from running out the door when things get a little weird.
But we're chatting about our upcoming live event at the
Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, what it's like to chase
mysteries together, and why you should absolutely join us for
the venture. So let's get started. Hey guys, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well doing well?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
How are you yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Good? Now that we have this technology working I'll tell you,
you know, I know we're going down there. We're they're
on the twentieth. I'm there on the nineteenth. I actually
have an event there myself on the nineteenth, but we're
all together on the twentieth, and I just knew I
wanted everybody to beat my friends and to find out
what Dark Echoes is all about. They can tune into
(01:29):
it on TV. They could tune in it on Prime,
on Sling, on Paraflex, and wherever else it is, and
we can talk about that, but I also want to
talk about why they should tune in. When we do
the live the live streaming, it's like an episode, but
it's live and it's happening in real time. So I
wanted to chat with the two of you. There are
lots of us that could make it here today because
(01:50):
we're recording this during the day. But John and Jacqueline,
what first drew you to the well, I'm going to
say to the Twisted Vine? Have either of you ever
been to the Twisted Vine?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have twice.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, you have. Have you investigated or you just went
there for dinner?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I investigated both season one and we did an episode
there and then we went back and did a meet
and great event there again.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, yeah, that's right. I didn't know you were there
for season one at that point. Yeah, what what pulled
you into that? Was it just the episode or you
know what pulled you into dark? Get gos? I should
say it's even better question.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, I mean I've been an investigator for over twenty
six years. Always, you know, kept my cases very you know, quiet,
close to the vest, investigate cold case murders and combine
that with the paranormals, so it's always It's never been
something that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I ever aired.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But when I started to look for a way to
get it out there more to help more families, that's
how I actually met Matt and we just like hit
it off right away, and he you know, thought it
was great what I was doing, and I thought what
he was doing was great, and I loved how he
was running his show. And when he asked me to
be as a guest investigator on the show for season one,
(03:03):
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Like absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Just so happened to be Twisted Vines and we had
a blast film in you know for that episode, and
then we did the meet and greet that was kind
of a kickoff for season two also at Twisted Vines,
and so when Matt asked me to come back as
a full time cast member, it was not a second
thought in my mind. I was like, yes, absolutely, I'll
be there. So we had a really good time with
(03:27):
the at the meet and greet. We had some really
good stuff happened there too.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's awesome, John, How about you? How did you get
involved in this?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So basically with mine, they were Dark Echoes was filming
the season finale at Wildwood Sanitarium and so we got
cast I got a message, got casted for that episode
as being a guest, and so I know I was
recommended by by the owners to Matt and the crew,
so we did. I did come down there. We filmed
(03:56):
a really dramatic episode which is obviously out now, you know,
because that place for me was home away from home
and has the connection between my brother. I like brother,
and I did. The filming was phenomenal, the way it
was structured, the way it was organized, and meeting the
crew felt like meeting old friends and I had never
met these people before. So yeah, Matt ended up towards
(04:18):
the end asking if I wanted to or if I
could commit to being on season two, and I don't
normally say yes to things that easily. I had seen
enough and I decided to give it a shot, and
I have no regrets now Season two got done filming
that and was there for every single episode and it
was a blast.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's where you and I met. Actually
we met at Wildwood, Yes, yes, yeah, I was one
of the mediums on that night. That was sort of
a surprise how things kind of like turned around it
because you never know what you're going to get when
you filming these things, right, And that's one of the
things I love about Dark Echos because it is really
spontaneous and it's real and you know, you know you
(05:00):
though when you go on an investigation, it's like watching
paint dry. Sometimes you can sit there and nothing happens,
and other times it's active and crazy. But that's what
people are seeing when they watch the show. They're actually
seeing a real investigation. We're there for what twenty four hours?
Maybe I'm not because I'm the medium, so I come
in and I'm in and out. But for you guys,
(05:20):
you're there just just a short period of time. Whereas
you know, the big television shows, they'll film over several
days because they need to fill thirty minutes or an
hour with evidence, and sometimes you get that and sometimes
you don't. But the realism I think of this is
what really is has been great. How do you, Jacqueline
prepare for night in a haunted place like this? Do
you do anything, I mean, any rituals or you know
(05:41):
anything about gear, like what's your what's your what's your way?
Or do you just kind of like walk in and
wing it?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, as far as you know the investigating part, I
kind of have my go to techniques and I've always
always had and everyone knows me for my famous favorite portal,
and boy has that been one hell of a tool.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Aside from that, it's kind of like my little medium
in a box, I always tease you.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But aside from that, before when we're doing a lot
of my team used to investigate dark entity cases and
cases involving haunted objects and curses and you know a
lot of the dark stuff that most investigators don't.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Want to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I got into the habit of making sure that
i had all my medallions blessed before I'd go on
an investigation in Holy Water and blessed salt and kind
of have all those things with me and charge my
crystals and go through like every barrier of protection I
could possibly take, because you know, I've seen so many things.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I still always have that stuff on me.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I you know, I'm at a place in I
guess i'd say my investigative career where it takes a
lot to scare me, it takes a lot to make
me go the other way, and I try to go
into every investigation and just you know, I'm very excited.
You know, it's like it's like a kid on Christmas
morning for every time I walk through a door, because
whether whether we get something or not, the locations them
(06:59):
cells are always wonderful to be at. But you know,
I very rarely have a situation where I don't leave,
you know, pretty excited. So I just kind of going
there with an open mind and just have fun.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And that's about it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, And John, you know, I think one of the
things that I've really enjoyed, you know, having you on
the show, on the episodes that I've been on, is
that you do something nobody else is doing right, and
you do what you and your brother had started working
on was the Apparition Hall, right, and that's its own
show which I think is coming out. But you've been
doing it with Dark at Ghost and you're going to
be doing it during the live is that right? Yeah?
(07:33):
Can you tell us a little bit about what the
Apparition Hall is and how it works and what types
of things you've you've experienced.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Sure? So, Project Operation Hall is a project that Jeremy
and I. It was our It was actually our last
project that Jeremy and I worked on together, and just
for the audience, Jeremy is my brother that I was
mentioning earlier. He started off using raw photography with a
green lazer and a cent Actually in simple terms, he
had more far more complex way of explaining it. It
(08:05):
was basically coloring the spirits in. But we've since changed that.
We found that with our we were making progress with
audio audio evidence, but in order to be able to
continue with the UH with the audio evidence to to
further that, we now had to delve to apparitions because
we can't see where they are, how they work, what
(08:25):
their actual composition is. So that's what apparition or Project
Apperson Hall is all about, is understanding a spiritual entities composition,
how they put themselves together. Uh so ultimately, uh, you know,
we use the file, we use green laser in a
very specific way. And but what we're doing is testing
(08:51):
elements for building the actual apparition hall, so to speak,
where will there will be certain measurements that we'll get.
Will we'll have an area of trolled area that will
allow for them to be able to put themselves together
so that we could see them the endgame. I mean,
we're talking maybe pass when I'm alive.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The one we're talking to, I don't know who knows.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, oddly enough, the first time, the first time that
I labeled because we didn't have a name when Jeremy
was live, we didn't have a name for it. We
just called the Manifestation project I turned into Project Apperition Hall.
And the last thing that we discussed about doing before
he died, I put it into action at Wildwood Sanitarium
and the first apparition that appeared was my brother. So
(09:38):
oddly enough, that kind of you know, who knows, Maybe
I'll be the one they'll be like, oh, we're going
to finish this work up, and somebody flips the switch
and I go, hey, but that's where we ultimately wanted
to end is basically having this thing that you could
turn it on and visually, visually see them. They can
(09:58):
put themselves together. We can help them with that. If
however that works, that's the ultimate endgame.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, and you posted a photo not that long ago
which I thought was kind of mind blowing. Really it
was the photo of you, not you, but it was
while you were doing the apparition Hall experiment and you
could see I think it was a woman, but anyway,
you could see the apparition that had manifested in the
mist and the laser, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Talking about the woman with the dress.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, it was incredible, incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That's just one of many. We have so many apparitions
we haven't shown yet.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, so friends, listen, you know, if we're going to
talk about this right because Paraflex is going to be
streaming this if I'm not mistaken, So it'll be on Paraflex.
It's going to be streamed as far away as Japan.
Believe it or not. They may not understand what we're saying,
but they're going to like, hopefully what you're picking up
on this thing. But we're going to be doing this.
John's going to be doing this at the Twisted Vine
(10:58):
Restaurant in Derby, Connecticut. So two things. Want to make
sure that you get the link and we will be
posting that. Check out the Dark Echos Paranormal page. Check
out with Paraflex. Look for us on social media because
we'll be posting the links when we get them up,
so you can watch. This is going to be the
twentieth it's actually Sunday night, but you can watch from home.
(11:19):
It'll be the cast of Dark Echos Paranormal, myself, John, Jacqueline,
Matthew and and and all the others that are that
are part of the show. And you'll be able to
see John's experiment live. So I think that's gonna be
a lot of fun. You definitely don't want to miss
that anything. I'm not with you guys all the time.
I mean literally, I come in blindfolded, I go through
(11:40):
the I go through the location, and I'm not there
because we have a couple of other mediums as well.
So we have Grego, who unfortunately isn't going to be
able to make it with us this weekend, and we
have Erica who's new. But but tell me a little
bit about when you're there any anything funny happened, Like,
what's what's funny things that happen? Well, you're together in filming,
may not even be paranormal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Matt screaming at the manner that's screaming. Sorry, Matt. It
was the first time I ever heard of but it was.
It was good.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, I think I can relate. I can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, h funny.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh well, there's always the lovely infamous scene of Greg
and John with their rupert ducks having a war.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yep, yep, yeah yeah, because at the end of the day,
it's really you know, it can get creepy depending on
where you at, but the other day we're just like
regular people, right, we go and we have a good time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, and uh, what do you call it? There was
I remember the last time we were all out to eat,
I think, yeah, it was it was a season finale.
So this, uh, this was the second time that we
met with Erica the New Medium, and thankfully she's super
open minded, funny, very late act. So I mean we
(13:02):
became we became friends over these these past couple episodes,
and so I decided to let my weirdness shine a
bit Jacqueline. I think Jacqueline knows that I have a
tendency to just randomly just go, you know, yell out
dinosaurs or something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, So naturally, I don't think Erica knew this yet.
So we were all at the restaurant together, all eating,
and I randomly just turned to her in the restaurant
and just kind of like, hey, Erica, and she's all happy, Hey,
what's up? And I go, just dinosaurs, t Rex's velociraptors,
mutated frogs, and that's all I said. And I turned away.
(13:39):
She was like, Oh, okay, for random out.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know we've filmed now. I'm thinking it must have
been season two, right. We haven't started filming season three yet.
We were filming season two. We were in the Poconos, Jacqueline,
were you there for that one.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't think you made the one where I was sick?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, yeah, well we filmed with Yeah, it was a bummer.
That was a great episode and that's coming out next year.
You'll see it. We filmed with Brian Kano, who is
the host of Paranormal Cut on camera. I don't know
if it's on travel or I think that's the channel
to Discovery Discovery. Yeah, and we've filmed with some people
who are kind of well known, you know, influencers online,
(14:22):
plus people who were on TV, and so you definitely
don't want to miss that next year. But what could
if you could invite any celebrity to investigate with us
on a show, who might it be?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Geez?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's easy one for me, crasy one for me. My
favorite celebrity that I've investigated with in the past that
I would love to see on the show would be
Nick Roth and even his wife too. Is his wife's medium, Yeah,
they are. I mean I haven't really met his wife,
but i've met Neck and neck Is he was one
of the most down to earth he to talk to
(15:00):
and boy does he really get into it. I think
he would be fun to have on the show work with.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah. Yeah, did you say you didn't have an idea,
Jacqueline or what were you thinking.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I would like to bring back?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, I mean I met them a while ago, but
I would like to see like John Zappis or Dave
Schrader join us, you know yea.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yep, especially if we're doing something, especially if we're doing
something where there are objects that might be haunted, I
think fantastic. I've interviewed John. I've interviewed John on my show,
and he's actually a super nice guy, so so nice.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I actually had to reach out to him and Dave.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I reach out to them consulting on one of my
old cases that involved a haunted well far beyond haunted now,
but it was a very bad situation and because of
the objects, I needed to get rid of the dolls.
So Dave connected me with John's you know, brilliant brilliant man.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, they're both brilliant yep.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I've always loved the shows that they were because
they weren't again, they weren't like scripted, very real, so
I always found that, you know, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So I would love I would love to bring them out.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. You know we're probably going
to be watched. I know we're watched on the TV,
but also when we do this live stream, people are
going to be watching who've probably never been to a
live or never been to a haunted location. They enjoy
watching it on TV. But what's one you know, for
both of you, what's one thing you wish people knew
about the work that we do, and whether it's the
work behind the scenes, or or the misconceptions about haunted
(16:32):
locations that you'd love to be able to clear up.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh well, let's start with not everything's a demon. Let's
go there first.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh oh my good. I cannot handle.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
The amount of times that people will run around and
throw that out there, because in reality, one it's very rare.
And two, if you came face face with a demon,
believe me, would be sitting here laughing and joking about it,
so that that'd be definitely number one on my list.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yep, John, anything for you, I mean, I'll you know,
for me, I'll kind of echo that too. Yeah, the yeah,
the the demon thing that drives me, that drives me
up the wall because you know, but I'll tell you
I've actually gone through a real back when I was younger,
a real demonicon thing, so I could distinguish the difference.
(17:30):
So this whole everything is that, you know, everyone running
around saying demon, demon, demon, like it's you know, just
you know, a common thing.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, it's no, it's not. It's not. That's that's exactly.
It's not cool. It's not the people who actually go
through it are suffering. So that one I wish there
was more respect for but I do like with uh
again with dark echoes, it's it's true what it's true
what Matt says when we're going in that the psychics
(18:02):
really don't know where they're going. I mean, it's great
to speak to see that we've had guests that have
actually gotten to see this in person, and that the investigations.
He doesn't tolerate faking at all. You fake, you fake,
You're done.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And I think that's another selling point for me because
I'm all about being authentic and if I see, I've
I've literally had international TV shows that have reached out.
There was one where the contract indicated that we may
have to fake evidence. I tore up the contract and
I said, never mind, I'm not interested. Like I literally
turned down being on another international TV show strictly because
(18:43):
of that. So I love the authenticity and I you know,
if people come on set, if they get to be
a guest investigator or you know, guest medium, whatever, they
get the opportunity to see that. And so far from
what I've seen with other people who have been guests
on the show that have investigated stuff like that, they've
(19:03):
seen what's you know that it's actually real.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, well, and that's what we talked about at the beginning, right,
I mean we're there for a day as opposed to
a week. You know, we get what we get. But
that's what it's really like when you're out in the field, right. Yeah,
it's not always going to be you know, exciting, and
it's sometimes we're just having pizza and coffee and having
a good time. You know. It's it's the social aspect
of it that I think is you know when I
(19:26):
go out to these places and the creep factor. You know,
you could get creep factor in a place that's not
even haunted. Just turn the lights out and stand there
by yourself. You get the creep factor. So it's kind
of fun, it's a little exciting. You know. What are
you both looking for? What are you both looking forward to?
On July twentieth, I would like.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
To re challenge something I did last during our meet
and greet.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was super successful.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
We set up kind of a well, we use a
couple of different tools up in the attic area, and
there is you know, there were there were talk of
a spirit up the this attic area, and so I
set up you know, some devices to basically corner them in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And while we were there, we.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Actually had the Spirit responding on command. But not only that,
but it was almost as if the Spirit was pacing
back and forth because we had device over here and
device over here, and it would go over and like
this one, and go over and like this one, and
go over and like this one. And it was on command.
So I want to try to recreate that.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, John, for you, I've never been there, so you
know that's going to be the exciting part for me
is is actually experiencing it, because you know, I've heard
a bunch of people talk about it. That's an awesome place. Yeah,
So being able to do Project at Person Hall is
gonna be great. And then also for the people who
purchase tickets to be there live at the event. You know,
(20:46):
we're going to look to have people evolved with Project
at Person Hall. So I look forward to, you know,
again with that social thing you were talking about, Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
We have a great group of people that we know,
we work well together, we laugh, We have a great
time having other people there as guests getting to experience
the what goes on, but also having great laughs with
them as well.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I would agree, and I think if I'm not mistaken,
there may be a few tickets left. If there are
people in the area and they want to come down,
I think there's still a few left. How should they
reach Jacqueline? I mean, do you think just reaching out
on the Dark Echo's Paranormal Facebook page or you know,
if you want to reach out to me, you can
get me at on Facebook, Medium Scott Allen, or you
could email me Scott at Mediumscottallen dot com. You can,
(21:34):
you can reach out and I'll get in touch with
Matten and hook you up. But if you'd like to
come and be a part of the experience, I think
that tickets are seventy five dollars. If I'm not mistaken
and there are a few spots left. But even if
you're not in the area and you're not able to
make it, I hope you'll be able to be there,
you know virtually, you know, watch it and see all
the fun that we're doing. I think for me, you know,
(21:57):
I've been to the Twisted Vine a few times because
I've done events there so but I've only been in
that room on the first floor. That's where I do
my events. I've never been downstairs or upstairs or anywhere
other place, so I'm excited to kind of go through
and see what that's all about. I not had any
experience with it. And for those of you local, the
food's amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
By the way, I was just gonna say that Jane
is a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They're closed on Sunday, but I always have dinner there
before my event, which will be on Saturday. What are
you guys coming into town? Are you coming in on
Sunday or Saturday?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Or I'm coming in on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Jacqueline, come Jacqueline, John come over and you know, if
you want, I have an event there on the seventieth
at seven o'clock on the teenth, So if you're around
at that time and you want to come over and
have dinner and you know, and hang out, I would
love to have you. It'd be fun because I don't
think you've ever been to You've never seen me work
like that. I usually see me kind of walk in
with a blindfold.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It's a whole different thing. Yeah, I'd love to have you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I'm really sorry that Matt couldn't be here today. I
thought he was going to be able to make it.
I think Matt is our host. So Matthew Ryan Condraki
is our host. What's one thing you want people to
know about Matt or or one word or one thought
about Matt.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Very professional? He takes this this This isn't just a
show to him. It's you know, like his life's work.
And he's very passionate about it. But he's very professional,
and he's very very adamant as John said before about
keeping it authentic. You know, I think it's so important
that people know that. You know, there are, as we said,
you're going to go on investigations where you get absolutely nothing,
(23:39):
and that's just real investigating, right, And so he's very
much he very much follows that, and he's very very.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Kind and very professional during the process. But you know where.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Most hosts and producers are very you know, they could
be very rigid and just you know, it's business, right.
He's also our friend, We're like a little family. So
I think that's also very important to say.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I would agree. I would agree.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
What do you think, John, So mine is mine's very similar.
I mean I've been on prior to Dark Echoes, I've
been on many bunch of Hollywood, you know, Hollywood sets
with large production companies dealing with directors and producers and such.
And then I've been on some of the more I
don't like to use the word but more amateur type
(24:27):
of filming that it's not a large production company. People
you know, it's their first time to do with things.
So I've gotten to see people who are well established
versus you know, versus people who are getting into it
that you know, are learning the ropes and such. With
the more amateur side is more of like, you know,
it's very it's very casual. What you know, well, we'll
just wing it. Hollywood set it's very boom boom boom
(24:51):
boom boom. It's you know, the directors are very straightforward
there to the point they could be stern. So when
I came on Dark Echo set resembled what would be
the larger organizations, how they operate, how it's structured, how
it's very professional, and for people who are not used
to that if you go on these types of sets,
that's what it's like. So Matt is, yes, he's very
(25:14):
he can he can be stern, but his focus is
the dream, the end product and making sure that the
show turns out right, and he's only got a certain
period of time to do it, so he operates it
in a really professional manner. And so for people who
have never experienced an actual major production, what he does
is what the bigger organizations do. The other thing, too,
(25:39):
is that with Matt on camera, I mean on on
on set versus Offset, it's two different, very two very
different people on set, it's very you know, business, It's
to the point, let's get this done. Offset. He is
an amazing friend. I got to I became friends with Matt.
I got to see who he really is. Offset, And
(26:00):
let me tell you something, he is. He does, he
has done so many things like he has He has
helped me out in so many ways. And I got
to talk to him more on a personal level about
his production. And I wish people could see his that
personal side that he's got passion.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
He does, for sure he does.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
He does have a really caring heart. It's just it's
something that people you have to get to know him
to truly see who the real Matt is.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Could not agree more with you. And and Jason Clifford,
who's our executive producer, is backstage and he had just
just messaged in that he wanted to say that Matt
is very passionate about the show and the investigations that
you guys do, and he wants to make sure that
there's something that was found during the show that it's real,
(26:51):
and you mentioned that you know it's real, it's not
made up in any way. This show has to be authentic.
That is that is his thing. It is authentic percent.
I think for me, if I could have one word,
you know, if I were if I were going to
offer one word about Matt, it would be misunderstood, because
I think people do misunderstand him. He wants this. He
wants to raise this to a level that you don't
(27:14):
find on most amateur productions, right. He wants us to
be I mean, you think about it. The equipment that
we use and the sponsors that we have. Monster his
sponsor does, and there's a bunch of others. Is Hollyland
with the uh you know, plus plus these people that
have given all the equipment for us to use during
our shows. He is one hundred percent professional, but I
(27:36):
can also tell you he's one hundred percent loyal. He
wants it back, he demands it back, but he will
also dish it out and give you the loyalty that
you ask for. So I'm glad that he's leading the
ship and I could not agree with you more. I
think we're on. We've got a good thing going here,
So you know, I want to thank you all for
being here. I know Jason's backstage. We were having some
(27:59):
mic ish, but I appreciate that he's hung out with us.
Also you, Jacqueline and John, and it's been a fun conversation.
Thanks for sharing the stories and to everyone listening, if
you're ready for a night out there that's a little
bit different, full of spirits, a spence and definitely some
good company, join us for Dark Echos Paranormal Live at
the Twisted Buying Restaurant in Derby, Connecticut on Sunday, July twentieth,
(28:24):
and we'll be streaming worldwide, so wherever you are you're invited.
For all the details, tickets and more, you can reach
out to me at Mediumscott Allen Scott at Mediumscottland dot
com or go to the Dark Echos Paranormal Facebook page
if you're on If you're on social media, check that
out and you can send a message to Matt. Please
(28:45):
don't forget to subscribe to my channel, check out past episodes,
and keep your heart and mind open to the magic
around you until next time. Keep it light, keep it kind,
and remember that sometimes the best way to face unknown
is with good friends and a lot of laughter. We'll
see you next time.
Sub venues are famous for their food, sub for their history,
and some like the Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, are
known for the stories that linger long after the lights
go out. On July twentieth, we're going to be gathering
for a night of spirit, suspense, and maybe a little
supernatural mischief. But tonight we're getting together to swap stories,
share some laps, and get ready for an event that
(00:24):
promises to be anything but ordinary. Welcome to the Enlightened
Life Podcast. I'm Scott Allen, and around here we believe
in good energy, open hearts, and the occasional goosebump. Tonight,
I'm joined by my cast mates from Dark Echos paranormal
cast Beansberg, John Griffin and Jacqueline Loren are sharp eyed
(00:44):
lead investigator and the one most likely to keep us
from running out the door when things get a little weird.
But we're chatting about our upcoming live event at the
Twisted Vine in Derby, Connecticut, what it's like to chase
mysteries together, and why you should absolutely join us for
the venture. So let's get started. Hey guys, how are you.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Well doing well?
Speaker 1 (01:08):
How are you yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Well?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Good? Now that we have this technology working I'll tell you,
you know, I know we're going down there. We're they're
on the twentieth. I'm there on the nineteenth. I actually
have an event there myself on the nineteenth, but we're
all together on the twentieth, and I just knew I
wanted everybody to beat my friends and to find out
what Dark Echoes is all about. They can tune into
(01:29):
it on TV. They could tune in it on Prime,
on Sling, on Paraflex, and wherever else it is, and
we can talk about that, but I also want to
talk about why they should tune in. When we do
the live the live streaming, it's like an episode, but
it's live and it's happening in real time. So I
wanted to chat with the two of you. There are
lots of us that could make it here today because
(01:50):
we're recording this during the day. But John and Jacqueline,
what first drew you to the well, I'm going to
say to the Twisted Vine? Have either of you ever
been to the Twisted Vine?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have twice.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Yeah, you have. Have you investigated or you just went
there for dinner?
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Nope?
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I investigated both season one and we did an episode
there and then we went back and did a meet
and great event there again.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Okay, yeah, that's right. I didn't know you were there
for season one at that point. Yeah, what what pulled
you into that? Was it just the episode or you
know what pulled you into dark? Get gos? I should
say it's even better question.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, I mean I've been an investigator for over twenty
six years. Always, you know, kept my cases very you know, quiet,
close to the vest, investigate cold case murders and combine
that with the paranormals, so it's always It's never been
something that.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I ever aired.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
But when I started to look for a way to
get it out there more to help more families, that's
how I actually met Matt and we just like hit
it off right away, and he you know, thought it
was great what I was doing, and I thought what
he was doing was great, and I loved how he
was running his show. And when he asked me to
be as a guest investigator on the show for season one,
(03:03):
I was.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Like absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Just so happened to be Twisted Vines and we had
a blast film in you know for that episode, and
then we did the meet and greet that was kind
of a kickoff for season two also at Twisted Vines,
and so when Matt asked me to come back as
a full time cast member, it was not a second
thought in my mind. I was like, yes, absolutely, I'll
be there. So we had a really good time with
(03:27):
the at the meet and greet. We had some really
good stuff happened there too.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
That's awesome, John, How about you? How did you get
involved in this?
Speaker 4 (03:35):
So basically with mine, they were Dark Echoes was filming
the season finale at Wildwood Sanitarium and so we got
cast I got a message, got casted for that episode
as being a guest, and so I know I was
recommended by by the owners to Matt and the crew,
so we did. I did come down there. We filmed
(03:56):
a really dramatic episode which is obviously out now, you know,
because that place for me was home away from home
and has the connection between my brother. I like brother,
and I did. The filming was phenomenal, the way it
was structured, the way it was organized, and meeting the
crew felt like meeting old friends and I had never
met these people before. So yeah, Matt ended up towards
(04:18):
the end asking if I wanted to or if I
could commit to being on season two, and I don't
normally say yes to things that easily. I had seen
enough and I decided to give it a shot, and
I have no regrets now Season two got done filming
that and was there for every single episode and it
was a blast.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah. Yeah, and that's where you and I met. Actually
we met at Wildwood, Yes, yes, yeah, I was one
of the mediums on that night. That was sort of
a surprise how things kind of like turned around it
because you never know what you're going to get when
you filming these things, right, And that's one of the
things I love about Dark Echos because it is really
spontaneous and it's real and you know, you know you
(05:00):
though when you go on an investigation, it's like watching
paint dry. Sometimes you can sit there and nothing happens,
and other times it's active and crazy. But that's what
people are seeing when they watch the show. They're actually
seeing a real investigation. We're there for what twenty four hours?
Maybe I'm not because I'm the medium, so I come
in and I'm in and out. But for you guys,
(05:20):
you're there just just a short period of time. Whereas
you know, the big television shows, they'll film over several
days because they need to fill thirty minutes or an
hour with evidence, and sometimes you get that and sometimes
you don't. But the realism I think of this is
what really is has been great. How do you, Jacqueline
prepare for night in a haunted place like this? Do
you do anything, I mean, any rituals or you know
(05:41):
anything about gear, like what's your what's your what's your way?
Or do you just kind of like walk in and
wing it?
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Now?
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Well, as far as you know the investigating part, I
kind of have my go to techniques and I've always
always had and everyone knows me for my famous favorite portal,
and boy has that been one hell of a tool.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Aside from that, it's kind of like my little medium
in a box, I always tease you.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
But aside from that, before when we're doing a lot
of my team used to investigate dark entity cases and
cases involving haunted objects and curses and you know a
lot of the dark stuff that most investigators don't.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Want to be involved in.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I got into the habit of making sure that
i had all my medallions blessed before I'd go on
an investigation in Holy Water and blessed salt and kind
of have all those things with me and charge my
crystals and go through like every barrier of protection I
could possibly take, because you know, I've seen so many things.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
I still always have that stuff on me.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
But I you know, I'm at a place in I
guess i'd say my investigative career where it takes a
lot to scare me, it takes a lot to make
me go the other way, and I try to go
into every investigation and just you know, I'm very excited.
You know, it's like it's like a kid on Christmas
morning for every time I walk through a door, because
whether whether we get something or not, the locations them
(06:59):
cells are always wonderful to be at. But you know,
I very rarely have a situation where I don't leave,
you know, pretty excited. So I just kind of going
there with an open mind and just have fun.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
And that's about it.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Yeah, And John, you know, I think one of the
things that I've really enjoyed, you know, having you on
the show, on the episodes that I've been on, is
that you do something nobody else is doing right, and
you do what you and your brother had started working
on was the Apparition Hall, right, and that's its own
show which I think is coming out. But you've been
doing it with Dark at Ghost and you're going to
be doing it during the live is that right? Yeah?
(07:33):
Can you tell us a little bit about what the
Apparition Hall is and how it works and what types
of things you've you've experienced.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Sure? So, Project Operation Hall is a project that Jeremy
and I. It was our It was actually our last
project that Jeremy and I worked on together, and just
for the audience, Jeremy is my brother that I was
mentioning earlier. He started off using raw photography with a
green lazer and a cent Actually in simple terms, he
had more far more complex way of explaining it. It
(08:05):
was basically coloring the spirits in. But we've since changed that.
We found that with our we were making progress with
audio audio evidence, but in order to be able to
continue with the UH with the audio evidence to to
further that, we now had to delve to apparitions because
we can't see where they are, how they work, what
(08:25):
their actual composition is. So that's what apparition or Project
Apperson Hall is all about, is understanding a spiritual entities composition,
how they put themselves together. Uh so ultimately, uh, you know,
we use the file, we use green laser in a
very specific way. And but what we're doing is testing
(08:51):
elements for building the actual apparition hall, so to speak,
where will there will be certain measurements that we'll get.
Will we'll have an area of trolled area that will
allow for them to be able to put themselves together
so that we could see them the endgame. I mean,
we're talking maybe pass when I'm alive.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
The one we're talking to, I don't know who knows.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, oddly enough, the first time, the first time that
I labeled because we didn't have a name when Jeremy
was live, we didn't have a name for it. We
just called the Manifestation project I turned into Project Apperition Hall.
And the last thing that we discussed about doing before
he died, I put it into action at Wildwood Sanitarium
and the first apparition that appeared was my brother. So
(09:38):
oddly enough, that kind of you know, who knows, Maybe
I'll be the one they'll be like, oh, we're going
to finish this work up, and somebody flips the switch
and I go, hey, but that's where we ultimately wanted
to end is basically having this thing that you could
turn it on and visually, visually see them. They can
(09:58):
put themselves together. We can help them with that. If
however that works, that's the ultimate endgame.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, and you posted a photo not that long ago
which I thought was kind of mind blowing. Really it
was the photo of you, not you, but it was
while you were doing the apparition Hall experiment and you
could see I think it was a woman, but anyway,
you could see the apparition that had manifested in the
mist and the laser, which is.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Talking about the woman with the dress.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah, it was incredible, incredible.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That's just one of many. We have so many apparitions
we haven't shown yet.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, so friends, listen, you know, if we're going to
talk about this right because Paraflex is going to be
streaming this if I'm not mistaken, So it'll be on Paraflex.
It's going to be streamed as far away as Japan.
Believe it or not. They may not understand what we're saying,
but they're going to like, hopefully what you're picking up
on this thing. But we're going to be doing this.
John's going to be doing this at the Twisted Vine
(10:58):
Restaurant in Derby, Connecticut. So two things. Want to make
sure that you get the link and we will be
posting that. Check out the Dark Echos Paranormal page. Check
out with Paraflex. Look for us on social media because
we'll be posting the links when we get them up,
so you can watch. This is going to be the
twentieth it's actually Sunday night, but you can watch from home.
(11:19):
It'll be the cast of Dark Echos Paranormal, myself, John, Jacqueline,
Matthew and and and all the others that are that
are part of the show. And you'll be able to
see John's experiment live. So I think that's gonna be
a lot of fun. You definitely don't want to miss
that anything. I'm not with you guys all the time.
I mean literally, I come in blindfolded, I go through
(11:40):
the I go through the location, and I'm not there
because we have a couple of other mediums as well.
So we have Grego, who unfortunately isn't going to be
able to make it with us this weekend, and we
have Erica who's new. But but tell me a little
bit about when you're there any anything funny happened, Like,
what's what's funny things that happen? Well, you're together in filming,
may not even be paranormal.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Matt screaming at the manner that's screaming. Sorry, Matt. It
was the first time I ever heard of but it was.
It was good.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, I think I can relate. I can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, h funny.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh well, there's always the lovely infamous scene of Greg
and John with their rupert ducks having a war.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yep, yep, yeah yeah, because at the end of the day,
it's really you know, it can get creepy depending on
where you at, but the other day we're just like
regular people, right, we go and we have a good time. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Well, and uh, what do you call it? There was
I remember the last time we were all out to eat,
I think, yeah, it was it was a season finale.
So this, uh, this was the second time that we
met with Erica the New Medium, and thankfully she's super
open minded, funny, very late act. So I mean we
(13:02):
became we became friends over these these past couple episodes,
and so I decided to let my weirdness shine a
bit Jacqueline. I think Jacqueline knows that I have a
tendency to just randomly just go, you know, yell out
dinosaurs or something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, yeah, So naturally, I don't think Erica knew this yet.
So we were all at the restaurant together, all eating,
and I randomly just turned to her in the restaurant
and just kind of like, hey, Erica, and she's all happy, Hey,
what's up? And I go, just dinosaurs, t Rex's velociraptors,
mutated frogs, and that's all I said. And I turned away.
(13:39):
She was like, Oh, okay, for random out.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
You know we've filmed now. I'm thinking it must have
been season two, right. We haven't started filming season three yet.
We were filming season two. We were in the Poconos, Jacqueline,
were you there for that one.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't think you made the one where I was sick?
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, yeah, well we filmed with Yeah, it was a bummer.
That was a great episode and that's coming out next year.
You'll see it. We filmed with Brian Kano, who is
the host of Paranormal Cut on camera. I don't know
if it's on travel or I think that's the channel
to Discovery Discovery. Yeah, and we've filmed with some people
who are kind of well known, you know, influencers online,
(14:22):
plus people who were on TV, and so you definitely
don't want to miss that next year. But what could
if you could invite any celebrity to investigate with us
on a show, who might it be?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Geez?
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's easy one for me, crasy one for me. My
favorite celebrity that I've investigated with in the past that
I would love to see on the show would be
Nick Roth and even his wife too. Is his wife's medium, Yeah,
they are. I mean I haven't really met his wife,
but i've met Neck and neck Is he was one
of the most down to earth he to talk to
(15:00):
and boy does he really get into it. I think
he would be fun to have on the show work with.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Yeah. Yeah, did you say you didn't have an idea,
Jacqueline or what were you thinking.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I would like to bring back?
Speaker 3 (15:15):
Well, I mean I met them a while ago, but
I would like to see like John Zappis or Dave
Schrader join us, you know yea.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yep, especially if we're doing something, especially if we're doing
something where there are objects that might be haunted, I
think fantastic. I've interviewed John. I've interviewed John on my show,
and he's actually a super nice guy, so so nice.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I actually had to reach out to him and Dave.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I reach out to them consulting on one of my
old cases that involved a haunted well far beyond haunted now,
but it was a very bad situation and because of
the objects, I needed to get rid of the dolls.
So Dave connected me with John's you know, brilliant brilliant man.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean, they're both brilliant yep.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
And I've always loved the shows that they were because
they weren't again, they weren't like scripted, very real, so
I always found that, you know, very interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
So I would love I would love to bring them out.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, I agree, I agree. You know we're probably going
to be watched. I know we're watched on the TV,
but also when we do this live stream, people are
going to be watching who've probably never been to a
live or never been to a haunted location. They enjoy
watching it on TV. But what's one you know, for
both of you, what's one thing you wish people knew
about the work that we do, and whether it's the
work behind the scenes, or or the misconceptions about haunted
(16:32):
locations that you'd love to be able to clear up.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh well, let's start with not everything's a demon. Let's
go there first.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Oh oh my good. I cannot handle.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
The amount of times that people will run around and
throw that out there, because in reality, one it's very rare.
And two, if you came face face with a demon,
believe me, would be sitting here laughing and joking about it,
so that that'd be definitely number one on my list.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Yep, John, anything for you, I mean, I'll you know,
for me, I'll kind of echo that too. Yeah, the yeah,
the the demon thing that drives me, that drives me
up the wall because you know, but I'll tell you
I've actually gone through a real back when I was younger,
a real demonicon thing, so I could distinguish the difference.
(17:30):
So this whole everything is that, you know, everyone running
around saying demon, demon, demon, like it's you know, just
you know, a common thing.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Yeah, it's no, it's not. It's not. That's that's exactly.
It's not cool. It's not the people who actually go
through it are suffering. So that one I wish there
was more respect for but I do like with uh
again with dark echoes, it's it's true what it's true
what Matt says when we're going in that the psychics
(18:02):
really don't know where they're going. I mean, it's great
to speak to see that we've had guests that have
actually gotten to see this in person, and that the investigations.
He doesn't tolerate faking at all. You fake, you fake,
You're done.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And I think that's another selling point for me because
I'm all about being authentic and if I see, I've
I've literally had international TV shows that have reached out.
There was one where the contract indicated that we may
have to fake evidence. I tore up the contract and
I said, never mind, I'm not interested. Like I literally
turned down being on another international TV show strictly because
(18:43):
of that. So I love the authenticity and I you know,
if people come on set, if they get to be
a guest investigator or you know, guest medium, whatever, they
get the opportunity to see that. And so far from
what I've seen with other people who have been guests
on the show that have investigated stuff like that, they've
(19:03):
seen what's you know that it's actually real.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Yeah, well, and that's what we talked about at the beginning, right,
I mean we're there for a day as opposed to
a week. You know, we get what we get. But
that's what it's really like when you're out in the field, right. Yeah,
it's not always going to be you know, exciting, and
it's sometimes we're just having pizza and coffee and having
a good time. You know. It's it's the social aspect
of it that I think is you know when I
(19:26):
go out to these places and the creep factor. You know,
you could get creep factor in a place that's not
even haunted. Just turn the lights out and stand there
by yourself. You get the creep factor. So it's kind
of fun, it's a little exciting. You know. What are
you both looking for? What are you both looking forward to?
On July twentieth, I would like.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
To re challenge something I did last during our meet
and greet.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
It was super successful.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
We set up kind of a well, we use a
couple of different tools up in the attic area, and
there is you know, there were there were talk of
a spirit up the this attic area, and so I
set up you know, some devices to basically corner them in.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And while we were there, we.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Actually had the Spirit responding on command. But not only that,
but it was almost as if the Spirit was pacing
back and forth because we had device over here and
device over here, and it would go over and like
this one, and go over and like this one, and
go over and like this one. And it was on command.
So I want to try to recreate that.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, John, for you, I've never been there, so you
know that's going to be the exciting part for me
is is actually experiencing it, because you know, I've heard
a bunch of people talk about it. That's an awesome place. Yeah,
So being able to do Project at Person Hall is
gonna be great. And then also for the people who
purchase tickets to be there live at the event. You know,
(20:46):
we're going to look to have people evolved with Project
at Person Hall. So I look forward to, you know,
again with that social thing you were talking about, Scott.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
We have a great group of people that we know,
we work well together, we laugh, We have a great
time having other people there as guests getting to experience
the what goes on, but also having great laughs with
them as well.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yeah, I would agree, and I think if I'm not mistaken,
there may be a few tickets left. If there are
people in the area and they want to come down,
I think there's still a few left. How should they
reach Jacqueline? I mean, do you think just reaching out
on the Dark Echo's Paranormal Facebook page or you know,
if you want to reach out to me, you can
get me at on Facebook, Medium Scott Allen, or you
could email me Scott at Mediumscottallen dot com. You can,
(21:34):
you can reach out and I'll get in touch with
Matten and hook you up. But if you'd like to
come and be a part of the experience, I think
that tickets are seventy five dollars. If I'm not mistaken
and there are a few spots left. But even if
you're not in the area and you're not able to
make it, I hope you'll be able to be there,
you know virtually, you know, watch it and see all
the fun that we're doing. I think for me, you know,
(21:57):
I've been to the Twisted Vine a few times because
I've done events there so but I've only been in
that room on the first floor. That's where I do
my events. I've never been downstairs or upstairs or anywhere
other place, so I'm excited to kind of go through
and see what that's all about. I not had any
experience with it. And for those of you local, the
food's amazing.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
By the way, I was just gonna say that Jane
is a good one.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
They're closed on Sunday, but I always have dinner there
before my event, which will be on Saturday. What are
you guys coming into town? Are you coming in on
Sunday or Saturday?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Or I'm coming in on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Jacqueline, come Jacqueline, John come over and you know, if
you want, I have an event there on the seventieth
at seven o'clock on the teenth, So if you're around
at that time and you want to come over and
have dinner and you know, and hang out, I would
love to have you. It'd be fun because I don't
think you've ever been to You've never seen me work
like that. I usually see me kind of walk in
with a blindfold.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Right right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
It's a whole different thing. Yeah, I'd love to have you.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
I'm really sorry that Matt couldn't be here today. I
thought he was going to be able to make it.
I think Matt is our host. So Matthew Ryan Condraki
is our host. What's one thing you want people to
know about Matt or or one word or one thought
about Matt.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Very professional? He takes this this This isn't just a
show to him. It's you know, like his life's work.
And he's very passionate about it. But he's very professional,
and he's very very adamant as John said before about
keeping it authentic. You know, I think it's so important
that people know that. You know, there are, as we said,
you're going to go on investigations where you get absolutely nothing,
(23:39):
and that's just real investigating, right, And so he's very
much he very much follows that, and he's very very.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Kind and very professional during the process. But you know where.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Most hosts and producers are very you know, they could
be very rigid and just you know, it's business, right.
He's also our friend, We're like a little family. So
I think that's also very important to say.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I would agree. I would agree.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
What do you think, John, So mine is mine's very similar.
I mean I've been on prior to Dark Echoes, I've
been on many bunch of Hollywood, you know, Hollywood sets
with large production companies dealing with directors and producers and such.
And then I've been on some of the more I
don't like to use the word but more amateur type
(24:27):
of filming that it's not a large production company. People
you know, it's their first time to do with things.
So I've gotten to see people who are well established
versus you know, versus people who are getting into it
that you know, are learning the ropes and such. With
the more amateur side is more of like, you know,
it's very it's very casual. What you know, well, we'll
just wing it. Hollywood set it's very boom boom boom
(24:51):
boom boom. It's you know, the directors are very straightforward
there to the point they could be stern. So when
I came on Dark Echo set resembled what would be
the larger organizations, how they operate, how it's structured, how
it's very professional, and for people who are not used
to that if you go on these types of sets,
that's what it's like. So Matt is, yes, he's very
(25:14):
he can he can be stern, but his focus is
the dream, the end product and making sure that the
show turns out right, and he's only got a certain
period of time to do it, so he operates it
in a really professional manner. And so for people who
have never experienced an actual major production, what he does
is what the bigger organizations do. The other thing, too,
(25:39):
is that with Matt on camera, I mean on on
on set versus Offset, it's two different, very two very
different people on set, it's very you know, business, It's
to the point, let's get this done. Offset. He is
an amazing friend. I got to I became friends with Matt.
I got to see who he really is. Offset, And
(26:00):
let me tell you something, he is. He does, he
has done so many things like he has He has
helped me out in so many ways. And I got
to talk to him more on a personal level about
his production. And I wish people could see his that
personal side that he's got passion.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
He does, for sure he does.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
He does have a really caring heart. It's just it's
something that people you have to get to know him
to truly see who the real Matt is.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Could not agree more with you. And and Jason Clifford,
who's our executive producer, is backstage and he had just
just messaged in that he wanted to say that Matt
is very passionate about the show and the investigations that
you guys do, and he wants to make sure that
there's something that was found during the show that it's real,
(26:51):
and you mentioned that you know it's real, it's not
made up in any way. This show has to be authentic.
That is that is his thing. It is authentic percent.
I think for me, if I could have one word,
you know, if I were if I were going to
offer one word about Matt, it would be misunderstood, because
I think people do misunderstand him. He wants this. He
wants to raise this to a level that you don't
(27:14):
find on most amateur productions, right. He wants us to
be I mean, you think about it. The equipment that
we use and the sponsors that we have. Monster his
sponsor does, and there's a bunch of others. Is Hollyland
with the uh you know, plus plus these people that
have given all the equipment for us to use during
our shows. He is one hundred percent professional, but I
(27:36):
can also tell you he's one hundred percent loyal. He
wants it back, he demands it back, but he will
also dish it out and give you the loyalty that
you ask for. So I'm glad that he's leading the
ship and I could not agree with you more. I
think we're on. We've got a good thing going here,
So you know, I want to thank you all for
being here. I know Jason's backstage. We were having some
(27:59):
mic ish, but I appreciate that he's hung out with us.
Also you, Jacqueline and John, and it's been a fun conversation.
Thanks for sharing the stories and to everyone listening, if
you're ready for a night out there that's a little
bit different, full of spirits, a spence and definitely some
good company, join us for Dark Echos Paranormal Live at
the Twisted Buying Restaurant in Derby, Connecticut on Sunday, July twentieth,
(28:24):
and we'll be streaming worldwide, so wherever you are you're invited.
For all the details, tickets and more, you can reach
out to me at Mediumscott Allen Scott at Mediumscottland dot
com or go to the Dark Echos Paranormal Facebook page
if you're on If you're on social media, check that
out and you can send a message to Matt. Please
(28:45):
don't forget to subscribe to my channel, check out past episodes,
and keep your heart and mind open to the magic
around you until next time. Keep it light, keep it kind,
and remember that sometimes the best way to face unknown
is with good friends and a lot of laughter. We'll
see you next time.
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