What She Saw After Dying Will Change You. Nancy Maloney's Near Death Experience.

What happens when the place we trust most turns into the very edge of the unknown? For Nancy Maloney, a routine surgery became a portal to something far deeper—a journey that took her across the border between life and death. In those suspended moments, she met her grandmother, received messages that would change her forever, and glimpsed a reality beyond what most of us dare to imagine.

This episode is an invitation to consider what lies on the other side of crisis, surrender, and survival. Nancy’s story isn’t just about coming back—it’s about what she brought with her, and what those messages might mean for all of us. As you listen, I invite you to reflect: What would you do if you returned with knowledge you couldn’t unsee?

Ready to explore what lies beyond? Hit play and join us for a journey you won’t forget.

Episode Highlights

A Safe Place Turns Unfamiliar: Nancy shares how a simple surgery spiraled into a near-fatal experience, shaking her sense of safety and certainty.

Crossing Over: She describes the surreal, peaceful moment of leaving her body and the unmistakable presence of her grandmother on the other side.

Messages From Beyond: Nancy recalls the predictions and insights she received during her time “between worlds”—and how those messages have unfolded in her life since.

The Return: What it felt like to come back, the physical and emotional aftermath, and how her perspective on life, death, and spirit has shifted.

Living With the Unseen: Nancy and Scott discuss the challenge (and blessing) of carrying spiritual knowledge in a world that often doubts the mystical.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah, I knew I was in heaven. There was this
feeling of love like you have. The feal never ever failed,
Earth fuller and it literally looked like somebody took like
finite glitter and blew it all over everything. Everything spoggled

(00:20):
though the brooks Bockle a tree spoggle. It was a
massive building behind me. It looked like a giant hollow
records and the doors to go into it. It was
the double door, our shaped double door that was completely
gem impressed. It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yesterday says that she never saw a ton of or
a blinding light, but instead found herself on a peaceful
noll in what she knew was a lower level of heaven,
beside her beloved Nana and your childhood dog Sherry, after
a surgery that went as wrong as anyone could imagine.
I'm Scott Allen and you're listening to the Enlightened Life podcast,

(01:17):
where we explore the soul's journey, the mysteries of the afterlife,
and the moments that transform us. Nancy, thank you so
much for being here. And I just want to say
that for those of you watching, you're going to see
me on the screen and you're going to understand as
we get through this talk why Nancy is not on camera.
She has a lot of physical ailments and disabilities because

(01:39):
of what she went through, so she's not on camera.
It's difficult for her to stay on camera. But we
are able to talk with her, and I'm so grateful
that she's here, and thank you for your courage in
sharing such a personal and powerful story with us.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It is my pleasure, and We've been talking about this
for a while, so I'm glad to finally have you
on the show. When you first realized the surgery had
gone wrong, was there a moment when you knew your
life never be the same?

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Oh? Yeah, I definitely did. I woke up. I don't
have any recollection of how many days it had been,
but I woke up. I was in intensive care, flat
on my back, strapped down to the gurney. They had
buckles around my wrists. I was strapped down at the gurney.

(02:28):
They had given me a medication that they overdosed me on,
and I had an adverse reaction and I apparently began
pulling up. I was at that point ike up to
eleven different machines to keep me alive. I never felt
pain in my life like I did when I woke
up at that point, and I knew something was devastatingly wrong.

(02:51):
But I also couldn't talk because they had given me
a trike that took away my ability to talk. So
all I could do was mouthed my words and pray.
Whoever was around me could read my lips, and generally
that was my husband at the time, and nobody could
explain to me what happened, what went wrong. There was

(03:11):
an incident, and at that point, nobody knew what went wrong,
So a lot of things happened to dayson and while
I was in that ICU, and I became even more sick.
My fevers went up to one hundred and eight. They
had to pack me in ice, and they want to
putting me in a medically induced coma for three weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
So tell me for a moment, and you don't have
to get into details. But the surgery, was that a
risky surgery or was it more routine?

Speaker 1 (03:41):
No, it was a routine stomach surgery, And which is
so weird. What we wound up finding out later was
when they were closing me up, they broke one of
my ribs, and it punctured my lung and seriously affected
my breathing. And they couldn't understand why my breathing was
so siville affected. And the doctor had told my husband,

(04:03):
you can only waste a horse for so long before
it gives out. We can't leave her like this. We
can't put the tube down her throat, so we're gonna
have to trager her. That's how it started.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Wow, and you were in a ton of pain and
and and you know, I can't even imagine what that's like.
And you probably I don't want to put words in
your mouth, but you probably were reaching a point where
you just genuinely wanted to let go.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I did. I kept telling my husband, I want to die,
Let me die. Tell them to kill me, tell them
to overdose me. You know.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
So you know you you were you were pretty bad off, yes,
And you did die in that hospital. How long after
the surgery was that?

Speaker 1 (04:49):
It was after I came out of the medically induced
coma that I do know. I just reamed. Remember after
I woke up from that, coming back from heaven and
my husband came to visit, I was so excited, ironically

(05:12):
tell him what I had just gone through.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Hang on one second, Mary, because I want to go back.
We're going to get to that, and I want to
give you an opportunity to share that experience when you
came back. But I want to talk about first what
happened when you passed? So in those first few seconds
after death, what did you know for certain that you
had never known before? What were those moments left?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
I knew, I knew I was in heaven, but I
knew I wasn't in the grand stage level of heaven.
I knew I was in a lower level of heaven.
And how I knew immediately knew was the failing. There
was this failing of love like you have. You'll never

(05:57):
ever fail Earth, you won't get it. It's almost nonexistent
down here, that level of love and wong like you're
just constantly being hugged by love, just surrounded by it.
That's the reason I didn't want to come back. I
wanted to stay there for that feeling.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
How I've heard people describe this right as as more
real than where we are now, which is hard. It
was for those of us who haven't gone through this,
it's hard to understand what that might feel like. But
what did it feel like? What was so different?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
The colors? There are so many more colors in heaven
than you ever find a crayle of our Grayand I'll
tell you that much vibrant. And it literally looked like
somebody took like finite glitter and blew it all over everything.
Everything sparkled, The brook spockled, the tree spoggled. There was

(06:57):
a massive building behind me. It looked like a giant
hall of record. And the doors to go into it
were I had. It was like gem encrusted. It was
the double door, our shape, double door that was completely
gem encrusted. It was beautiful, And.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
I guess this is you know, I want to try
to ask the questions. And I know people are probably thinking,
if we are in a place where we are spirit,
we are not physical? How are those places human places?
How are they physical? Like a gem encrusted building or
a river or.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
You know what? Do you know?

Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know what I'm getting it? Like, how do we
how is that a non human in a human space?

Speaker 1 (07:46):
It was a human space, because it's just that our
you know, the shell that God put your soul in
is what's nonexistent up there, you know, But who you
are as a human is your soul and what your
soul is. That's truly what makes us who we are.
But the place is real, the plate is real, the

(08:10):
trees are real. The wind blows birds, her butterflies. You
know it was it was? It was there weren't really
people around. It was my nana and my dog from
when I was four years old, But you knew that
others were there. It's almost like I had this feeling

(08:31):
that we were not to be interrupted. This conversation that
I was going to have with my Nana was not
to be interrupted, So nobody came around. Just the dog
furmed the dog. That's it.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
How did you know it was them? Did they have
bodies or was it just an understanding that it was them.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Nana when she first showed, because I was looking around
trying to find people, and when I turned back around,
my Nana was sitting on the so grasty no right
beside me, and I think she appeared that way so
I would recognize her body. She looked the way that
she looked right before she died. But then she was light.

(09:13):
She was just light, a ball of light. The whole
rest of the conversation, I was not staring at my
nana's face. You know, even the conversation itself was telepathic.
It was she was a ball of light, but it
was her. I knew it was her. I could hear
her voice. It was her.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was her. Did you feel with her the same
kind of connection that you had felt here even though
she was a ball of light?

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah? Yeah, And I missed it. I missed it. I'm
god I missed it. Yeah. That was That was the
hard pot, knowing that I was gonna have to leave her.
I didn't want to leave her, you know, I wanted
to just stay there with her.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Was there a word, a gesture or feeling from your
nana and your pet changed you the whole thing change.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
You can't go through something like that and not be changed.
She made it very clear that I am blessed. She
made a very clear, very clear that I am constantly
being watched over, that they're always with me. Look for
the signs, which I do get. I get smells. I
get signs all the time. I know again know the

(10:23):
the love, the loved feeling. It's warm. Well, you can't
explain it because it's not anything that you feel earth balanced,
So how do you explain something that nobody will ever
feel until there are any of it, So it's hard
to explain that to an earth balance being.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
So you're there, You're experiencing, experiencing this incredible warmth, it
incredible love, this incredible space that you've been told about
but never experienced. It is blonde, your wildest imagination. And
then she says, you have to return to a life
of pain?

Speaker 1 (11:03):
What that? What was that like? What was that like that?
I almost want to say that I argue with her,
because you've got to remember, I wasn't quite like dead dead.
You know, there is no human emotion in heaven other
than love. I was. I remember feeling confused because I

(11:24):
kept saying I don't want to go back, but she
kept telling me that I had to, and I couldn't
understand why. Why couldn't I say? And I would ask
her why I don't understand why, Nana, and she said,
you still have so much more to do. He said,
like what? Like? What what am I supposed to be
doing when I go back there? You know, why can't

(11:46):
I stay here with you? She said? It's, Jeff, not
your time, she said, but I need to prepare you
because the minute you go back You're going to enter
her body riddled with pain that you've never felt in
your life before. And unfortunately it's a condition that there

(12:09):
is no medication on the planet that will help with
that pain, and you will have to live with it
until the day God called you back home. And she's
not wrong.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Life if you if you could have stayed, would you
have chosen to leave everyone and everything behind?

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Absolutely? And actually I deal with anger, yeah, because I
was meant to combat What is that like?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
And and by that I mean when you were there,
did you have any connection to your body here? Were
you were aware of it? Was there anything?

Speaker 1 (12:44):
Absolutely aware?

Speaker 2 (12:46):
So even though you were on the other side, you
were still aware of what people were doing here?

Speaker 1 (12:50):
And yeah, yeah, what was that like? It's almost like,
you know, if you stuck your head lower enough, you
could pick your head between the clouds and look down
and see it was weird in that regard, So, yeah,
I knew what was going on. I actually saw things
that the nurses were doing and heard some of the
stuff that they were saying while I was up there

(13:12):
and they were around my bed and that the ICU units. Yeah,
you know how people say they have out of body experiences,
there and surgeries, and they look down and they said, yes,
that's what it was like. That's what it was like.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
So you're here and you're with your grandmother and you're
having a conversation with her. At the same time, you're
aware of what's happening here right in your body. Do
you not get a sense of was there no sense
of loss? So, in other words, you were married at
the time, you had family here, siblings. Was there no
sense of loss or there would have been lost?

Speaker 1 (13:49):
No, that's the freaky pot. You don't care, at least
for me. I didn't care. I knew that, just like
song says, goes on without me. I knew that it
would probably be a blow unexpected, that people would be
affected and their lives would change, especially for my husband

(14:11):
at the time. But I knew that they'd be okay.
I knew that they would be okay. You just know.
It's just this knowing thing is so prevalent.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Is it almost when because you did obviously you did
come back. Is it almost like there's a firewall that
goes up after your return?

Speaker 1 (14:29):
You know?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
In other words, you're so open and you have this
knowing and this understanding of all of these things and
then you come back and it must be like sinking
into a ball of concrete.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Well it was. I've always had this knowing thing. And
as a child, I used to have out of body
experiences and they said me. And I never told anybody,
because that was back in the day when you talked
like that, you were put into some kind of men

(15:00):
institution and locked up. And it happened to people in
my family only with mental health issues, and I was
not going to be that person, so I never told anybody.
And ironically, watching a talk show one day when I
was like twenty two, they mentioned astro projection as to
travel and I said, oh my god, that that's me.

(15:21):
That's the answer. That's where I went through for all
those years as a kid, and I always had this
throwing so I guess there was always have this openness.
But when I came back, when I was put back
in my body, I was so aware of every single
thing going on with my body and around my body.

(15:42):
It's almost like I had been unplugged my entire life,
and then suddenly I'm plugged in.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
And that was that why you came here.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I knew what my hot rate was, I knew when
I had a urinary tract infection. Now you've got to
remember they had me. He loaded up on so much
medication that you know, I knew days before. Two days
before I remember telling my nurse Marie at the time,

(16:13):
I'm getting a urinary tractive sector. So they did his
test and they said nope. I said, it's coming. And
she said, now, how do you know that, I said,
trust me, I know. Two days later, you're in a
very attractive fector. I just literally was so plugged in,
so plugged in.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
How long did that last for?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
That lasted for a long time, for a couple of
years after, and then any time there was an emergency
or an urgent situation, my body automatically plugged back in again.
Like I was left taking care of my mom with
dementia for five years before she passed, and there were
a lot of urgent and serious issues that came up

(16:52):
with her, and every single time it did boom, I
was plugged right back in again. It was amazing, amazing
to know I knew things I never should of known.
I knew things I'd never should have known. I knew
just all of a sudden. It was weird. And again
it's a psychic connection. I told them that my mother

(17:13):
was on a medication that was making her dementia worse,
and it was the Nevernton and they're like, no, no, no,
And I said, take her off of the neurontin and
watch her get better. Boom it happened. So she had
to go back into the hospital again after a bad fall,
and I was adamant, do not put her on the nerontons.
I go to the hospital to visit her. At a

(17:34):
minute I walked in the door, I could tell they
gave her the neurtons. She got it, yep. I went
to the nurses and I grabbed the doctors and I said,
I told you people, do not put her on this medication.
It increases the dementia. They didn't believe me when I
told them the first time, so they figured they'd give
it a try. I mean, just things like that constantly happened.

(17:57):
Blugged in. That's the only other way I can explain it.
In unplugged the whole entire life, and then all of
a sudden you plugged in.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Well, for people who say this was just your brain
shutting down, what do you say to that?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
How do you know that?

Speaker 2 (18:15):
How do you know I mean, and and I'm playing
Devil's advocate, but how do you know that it wasn't
a dream or something brought on by medication or you know.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Okay, two specific things, one being there and witnessing what
I witnessed. I think I was that I'd never seen before,
that feeling of pure love that just every five of
you being again. I can't explain how amazing that was.
That is a feeling that I never felt on this planet,

(18:48):
because it doesn't exist on You're only ever going to
get that in heapy. And then again when I came back,
I came back much more gifted.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
You did.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, it intensified whatever I went through, intensified my ability and.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
What are your abilities?

Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well path both more of an animal impath ironically, the
sentient and psychic ability, so.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know things, you feel, things you sense, and it
scarves me.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
That's the psychic pot scuse me, especially like permanition dreams
at things. Three nights before the Twin Tower, I had
a dream that Sable book both going to get hit
with me. There was also a massive I think it
was between Boston and New York, a commuter rail that

(19:38):
had gone off the traps, and a lot of people
died and I dreamt about that two days before it happened.
You know, things like that. It scared me. It scared me.
I'm going to be honest.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
How did this experience affect your relationships with your loved ones,
the rest of your family, with God, with yourself? Did
anyone in your life struggle to even believe you?

Speaker 1 (19:58):
No? You know, like my siblings, my husband, my best friends,
they all embrace what I went through. And they they're
actually they get excited that I know things because they'll
come to me and say, look, I've got a new job.
How do you see this going? You know? Or something
really weird will happen and they'll be like, you know,

(20:19):
did you have any idea this was going to happen?
I don't get everything. It's like I wish it worked
that way. I wish I was, you know, the gurus
sitting at the top of the mountain with all the yimps. No,
that's not how it works. It's not how this works.
We only get what God allows us to get. We
only get the information that God's willing to give us

(20:39):
at any point in time.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, now I say that all the time. You know,
people will say you know, well, I want to speak
to this person or that. You only get what you're
supposed to get. You're not going to give you things
that you're not intended to have. You know, we all
have to walk this we all have to walk this path.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
It's like these people here psychic and they come up
to you and they're like, ohy psychic, what's my name? Yeah,
it doesn't work like that.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
No. We are only allowed to give what God allows
us to give.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
That is the truth. That is the truth. Were you
shown anything about the world when you were there? Was
there anything about the world, about life that sort of
made you go.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
In dreams? That comes to me in dreams, But it didn't.
It didn't happen to me when I was actually up
there for my visit, you know, I call it my
visit with Nanna. But yeah, no, I didn't get any
of that. There, I get it more. I'll just be
sitting here scrolling through my phone and all of a sudden,
this little video clip will play in front of my face,

(21:43):
some real bizarre thing that you know, explains okay, like
the earthquakes that happened in Russia and all the I
started getting images of high waves and tsunamis before any
footage or before the sun it's even hit. You know
that just it just it just happens.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Are you afraid to die?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Not at all. I tell everybody I'm not looking to
go out and get hit by a bus today. But
when my time comes, I am going to welcome it
with obena. Yeah. I viewed death so differently. Now. When
somebody that I love passes away, I know where they are.
I know that they're safe. I know that their life

(22:26):
literally just begins. It didn't they. All they did was
they lost their human shell. But they they When you
go to heaven, you're you're born. Your life is just
dotty because it's so much better there than here.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
There's no loss in consciousness.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
No, no, no. As a matter of fact, again, I'm
going to use that you're plugged in, you plugged into everything.
You know what's going on down on earth. You you
know if like I knew that my ex husband was
seriously struggling mentally at time, I wasn't aware when I
was Earthchile. I only got that information when I was

(23:05):
in heaven. But I also got that he's if he
doesn't start eating better. And taking care of himself. He's
going to get sick and he's going to wind up
in the hospital. And because he was he was visiting.
He would come every day. He took over a month
off of work. I was in intensive care for three months,
so he took as much time as he had And

(23:27):
he would show up at eight in the morning and
they would let him stay till midnight. So by the
time he goes home and sleeps and he's back to
get at eight in the morning, he's not eating. He's
not eating. He's sitting beside me all day long, you know.
So when I did have the opportunity to grab my
mother in law, his mother, I told her, you got
to make him eat. I don't care if people have

(23:49):
to cook him food and bring it to him, and
I'll cut down his visiting hours. Whatever he's something's going
to happen to him if he doesn't start taking care
of his health. I didn't know that when I was
laying in that bed. I only got that when I
got that after.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, what would you say to someone who has a
loved one, or even themselves for that matter, and they
may have a terminal illness they're facing, you know, limited time,
and they're scared, they're sad, it's their family, they're worried
about how it will happen. What would you say to
them based on your experience?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Okay, because that is such a touchy subject because everybody
has such different beliefs when it comes to that. It's
like people will go to a funeral and they don't
realize some of the things that come out of their mouths,
or they better off or they're not suffering anybody. You know,
I don't care. I want them here with me. You know,

(24:44):
your words don't mean anything. So I didn't want to
be that person. I didn't want to be like that.
So what I do in those situations when people say
that they're afraid to die, especially, I tell them what
happened to me. I tell them my story, and I
tell them and the feeling, the feeling of love, like
welcoming love, enjoy like you've never you'll never experience that

(25:08):
on earth. You're only ever going to get that in heaven,
you know. And they appreciate that when I tell them that,
but they.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Have to believe it. When I think, sometimes it's hard
to kind of wrap yourself around that until you've experienced
it like you have.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
You know, right, they're skeptics, and you know that's that's fine.
You can be skeptics. You know. I'm not out here
trying to recruit anybody into my frame of thought and
some I think it patterns and my belief. No, you
have the right to feel and believe and think what
you want. And I'm good with how I am.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
What do you think happens when someone who has no
faith and no belief I'm talking atheists completely, you know,
a non believer crosses over it.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Okay, my first, and you know I've thought about this before,
and I the first thing that comes to mind is
shocked when they wind up in heaven and realize everything
that everybody told them all these years. You know that
they were here on this Shock my god. They will write,
oh my god, the feeling, oh my god, I'm here.
It was true the whole time. It was true. Shock.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
What do you feel about hell? Is that real?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
I don't believe it it is. I do believe that
there are evil forces. I do believe that there are demons.
I don't think that they live in a fiery pit
in the core of the earth. I think that it's
something that lives in the ground like elemental and whatnot,
that just pick and choose the most vulnerable and volatile

(26:39):
people to attack themselves to in bad situation. So I
do believe in evil, I do believe in demons. I
do believe in all that stuff. But no as hell
as a place, no earth, Earth's health.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
You know, we've heard people who have had these experiences
like you had in your death experience, and they you know,
a lot of them are similar to you. Is not
exactly the same story, but the feelings are the same.
But every once in a while you hear somebody that
went to a dark place where I've.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Heard I've heard them.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
What do you think that is.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I think that's where evil comes from. But I don't
think it's a fiery hit in the center of the earth.
I don't think it's the Earth's core. I just think
that what that is is God's way of telling them
that they really need to change their life when they
come back, that they've done some very bad things. You know,

(27:31):
basically you've seen that show Scared Straight Way. They send them,
the children to jail. Yeah, well that's what I think.
That's the preview of what your pedants and your punishment
could be if you don't change your life when you
go back.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Yeah, you know, I think that that is probably one
of the biggest fears people may have, is if there
is something where am I going? Have I been good enough?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
I believe you, I believe that, But I also think
if that's really what you think, and that's really what
you might believe could happen to you, then you've got
reasons to change your life because if you were doing
the right thing, we'll make it. The right choices and
being good and being honest and being fair and being
a decent human being, those thoughts shouldn't even enter your head.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, I think if. But you can look at it
a different way too. You can think that because I'm
so very conscious of it. Then you do worry have
I been good enough? I try to be good, but
have I been good enough? And you know, and I
think maybe the fact, just the fact that you worry
about that means you're probably not headed in that direction anyway,

(28:38):
because you're trying and you're thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
Just thought, I believe everybody if you I don't know
how prove it is, but you know, they say a
lot of people that die tragically or you know, don't
want to accept that they're dead and they can remain
earth bound. That's pretty you know, standard knowledge just sad
because you know, unless they need somebody that's gifted enough

(29:04):
to help cross them over. Other than that, I believe
everybody that dies goes to heaven, everybody, even Hitler. Sorry, sorry,
I'm not going to vellue you the point. That's what
I feel, that's what I believe. And you get your
judgment and your punishment from God when you get up there.
You know you have to set things right, you have
to make things right. You've got to do what you can,

(29:25):
You've got to do whatever he tells you to do,
and then you know you're off the hook and he's
good room with heaven freely. But everybody gets in heaven.
Everybody goes to heaven unless they remain earth bound for
some reason.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
I want to just shift gears for just a moment,
as we're getting near the end here. Do you have
any predictions or things you're worried about for the world
based on what you've experienced, your dreams? And yeah, civil war,
civil war in the country.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Civil war, civil war, and I just keep forgetting that
it's going to be worse in the middle of the
not so much. On the coast it would be bad.
But the worst places that it would be fought would
be the center of America Bible selves in below.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Red States primarily. Yeah, I guess, I mean that seems
to be where you know the South is.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, and ask why they would fight amongst each other.
I don't know itcause like all on both sides of
the Mississippi River, specifically Mississippi River is what I get.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
And he said on if that's you know soon, or
if that's ten or fifteen years away, or what's your son?

Speaker 1 (30:37):
Okay, now there, if the right things are done, that
could not happen, that's what you mean. Okay, but if
it does happen, it's going to be seen them later.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Is there anything else you'd like to share with our listeners,
Any final thoughts or stories that feel important?

Speaker 1 (30:53):
No, that I can think of word at the moment.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
No. Well, I really want to thank you so much
for your honesty, strength, the willingness to share a story
that's both harrowing but also deeply hopeful and for everyone listening.
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