Why Crossing Over Ghosts Might Be the Most Powerful Act of Compassion

My guest today says compassion isn’t just for the living—it’s for the dead, too. Imagine a world where the fear of ghosts is replaced by the courage to help them find peace. Tonight, we step into the unknown with Tina Irwin, a Navy Commander turned ghost helper, whose life’s mission is to guide lost souls home and teach the living how to do the same. What happens when you help a ghost cross over? And how does that act of compassion ripple through the lives of the living?

In this episode, Scott Allan welcomes Tina Irwin, author, retired Navy Commander, and renowned “ghost helper.” Tina shares her journey from skepticism to spiritual service, revealing how helping the dead find peace can heal the living as well. Together, they explore the power of the Crossing Over Prayer, the emotional shifts that come with releasing spirits, and how anyone—medium or not—can offer profound compassion to both sides of the veil. Through dramatic stories and practical tools, Tina shows why crossing over ghosts isn’t just possible, but essential.

Key Points:
00:00 – Tina Irwin’s transformation from Navy Commander to ghost helper
01:17 – The first haunting that changed everything
04:00 – What it means to be a “ghost helper”
06:00 – Why spirits linger and how to help them cross over
06:40 – The Crossing Over Prayer: how it works and who can use it
10:00 – Personal stories of hauntings, family healing, and emotional release
13:00 – The connection between grief, spirit attachment, and healing
15:30 – The phenomenon of twins, miscarriages, and ancestral spirits
18:00 – Creating ceremonies for crossing over and family rituals
20:00 – Discerning between spiritual and mental health concerns
22:00 – Why some souls don’t cross: guilt, fear, and feeling undeserving
27:30 – The ripple effect of crossing over for families and communities
29:30 – The power of love, prayer, and compassion in spiritual work
30:08 – Tina’s most rewarding moments and community impact
32:08 – Final lessons on courage, compassion, and the light

Resources & Links
Tina Irwin’s Website: https://ghosthelpers.com/
Tina Irwin's Books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B002MAJ7MI

Scott Allan’s Website & Events: https://www.mediumscottallan.com
Scott’s Book: “In the Presence of Light: A Funeral Director’s Journey from Mourning to Mediumship”: https://mediumscottallan.com/in-the-presence-of-light-book/

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
And my editor will take care of the rest of
this after So here you go. Imagine a world with
the fear of ghost is replaced by understanding and compassion
isn't just for the living, but for those who have
passed on too. For Tina Irwin, the world just isn't okay.

(00:26):
Hang on, I'm gonna back it up because I can't
read obviously what I wrote.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
My eyes are like, oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Take two. I have these progressive lenses. I can really
see down here. But if I see down here, I
have to look at the bottom of the screen. I
to go like this, So I'm trying to like deal
with the blur a little bit. All right, Here we
go progressives too.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
So yeah, imagine.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
A world where the fear of ghosts is replaced by
understanding and compassion isn't just for the living, for those
who have passed on to For Tina Irwin, the world
isn't just possible. It's her life's mission. A Navy commander
turned ghost helper, Tina has spent decades teaching that helping

(01:12):
the dead find peace is as vital as healing the living. Tonight,
we step into the unknown, where science, spirit and service
converge and discover how one woman's journey is changing the
way we think about death, the afterlife, and the power
of compassion on both sides of the veil. I'm Scott Allen,

(01:35):
and you're listening to the Enlightened Life Podcast, where we
explore the mysteries of the soul's journey, healing and transformation.
Let's begin, Tina, Welcome to the Enlightened Life Podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I'm grateful to have you here.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
I really look forward to this my pleasure. I've been
looking forward to it as well. You describe yourself as
the ghost helper for listeners new to this.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
What does that mean? How did you discover that.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I was like everybody else? I was just terrified of ghosts.
My husband and I were stationed in Charleston, South Carolina,
and you know, the whole state is haunted, and we
moved into an house that was eighteen months old, and
we had a very mischievous g I don't know why.
I thought if your house was new, it couldn't possibly
be haunted. But it was profoundly haunted, and so was

(02:28):
my neighbor's house, and so was my entire neighborhood, and
so was the entire division.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
It's the land, it's the land.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
The predecessor energy of the land. And there's an earthquake
fault that you know, fingers through that area near the
Ashley River. And we were in North Charleston, so we
weren't downtown by the waterfront, sort of out in the
country as you might imagine, and this ghost nearly drove

(02:56):
us mad. When you're a naval officer, you don't go
don't go to work and say, oh my god, my
house is haunted, because it supposed to be so rooted
in logic and science that those kinds of things can't happen.
I went to the Duke University School of Parapsychology and
asked them for help, and they said, well, we have
no idea how you cross over a ghost. We just

(03:18):
study the phenomena. And I said, well, that's not helpful
for the living or the dead. And so it took
me a lot of years, a lot of years to
figure out that one I can see in sense a ghost,
but you know, so could anybody who was in my house,
including my real estate agent when we sold that house.
And once I realized that I could actually help them

(03:43):
to cross over. That began to change everything. And then
if you can dehaunt a location by helping the person
who died, what a service. Because I've been really weird
journey here. A lot of times people don't know they're dead.

(04:06):
That's a weird thing. Maybe it's a battlefield and they
think the bullets pierced them, but they don't know they're
still fighting fighting, whether it's Revolutionary War, the War of
eighteen twelve, the Civil War, just you know, mankind being
unkind to each other. But once I figured out that

(04:29):
I could do it, then I realized, well, why is
this a secret? Why do people secretly go find a medium?
What if you could just make this a day to
day easy practice that anyone could do because they plucked
up their courage and they wanted to help somebody else.

(04:51):
So that's that's how I got started, because I had
a really pesky ghost.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Well, and I'll tell you it's funny. I just got
home from North Charleston last week. I have family in
North Charleston, and I did an event in the historic
District a couple of weeks ago, and so it was
at a very haunted embassy suites hotel right in the
right in the historic district, and there was a lot

(05:18):
of crazy stuff. A woman told me, she said, you know,
we have books flying off shelves and all kinds of
things here.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
I hope that won't bother you. And I'm like, it's
the atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
I mean, I kind of know, you know, but if
you know, I have crossed over people. So this is
why this conversation is so fascinating to me. You teach
that the living can and should help the dead. So
what's the first step someone should take if they believe
they have a ghost.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's a very simple step. You kind of have to
decide do I have the courage to do this? And
then you can use this. I wrote a book called
the Crossing Over Prayer Book, and on my website ghostelpers Dot,
I have something called the Crossing Over Prayer which is

(06:03):
in this book. It's in a lot of the books
that I've written. And you just say the prayer three times,
and as you say this over and over and over,
it says, if the light from the energy of the
words of the prayer. It's a prayer, it's a request
to God to help this soul, no matter who they

(06:28):
are what they did in mortal life or how they died.
It's not our job to judge what or who this
person was or the circumstances of their death. What a relief.
So glad that's not in my bay grade. But the
prayer asks God to help across the soul, bringing in

(06:48):
angels to escort them into the light. It's beautiful, it's simple.
Anyone can do it, even if you're afraid, even if
you think the has terrible intent for you. And I
have a story about that, If that's okay, absolutely, I

(07:10):
before I wrote the Crossing Over a prayer book, I'd
written so many, many different prayers that were in the
grief book that I wrote too. But I had a
woman to contact me from Upper State, New York. And
this woman father was a convicted murderer who was executed
by the State of New York for first degree murder.

(07:32):
I think he murdered many people. How horrible to realize
that your father is a serial killer. It's really traumatic.
But what made this infinitely worse is this woman had
a little four year old daughter and her father was
haunting her as a ghost, telling her psychically to murder

(07:53):
her daughter. Day after day. After day and she caught
one of my podcasts, which is why these are so important,
and I'm so grateful to you for having me. And
she said, I listened to this, and she said, I
took a chance to contact you and can I do
you know? Can you can you clear this? Can you
cross my father over? And I said, sure, but can

(08:15):
imagine how powerful it would be if you took your
power back from him and you crossed him over, Because
the whole point of this prayer is that anyone can
do this. You don't. You don't have to have, you know,
an expensive medium to do it. And so I said,
if it doesn't work, you know you can call me,

(08:36):
and you know, yes, I'll help you. But I feel
this would be an excellent opportunity for you to take
your power back from someone who has who has been
a nightmare in your life. Let's turn this super negative
and says something positive and beautiful. She said, all right,
well I'll try, but I don't know. You don't know
how bad he is. I said, no, I don't, but

(08:58):
let's don't judge it. Let's help. So she says, she
follows the direction. She says the prayer three times with
authority in her voice, she's not timid. She found that
center of power in her heart and she said the
prayer over and over and over, and she said it
was the weirdest thing. She felt, this shift. She couldn't
explain it, but she felt this shift. And then her

(09:21):
little girl looks at her and says, a Mommy, the
bad man is gone now, meaning her daughter could hear
him say that her mom should commit murder. And she
didn't need me. She didn't need me, which made me
feel that I did my job.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now are you a medium? Are you not a medium?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Well? Yeah, I am a medium an uncountable number of dead.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, well you know.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And it's funny because I was going to ask you,
how can someone who is not a medium know that
what they did actually worked?

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Well? Having had a lot of people do this who
are not mediums, and they want to be able to
cross over their child who died in the privacy of
their own home, it's very when you cross over someone
you've loved, and I just feel that enabling someone else

(10:17):
to do it causes them to touch into a part
of them that is much more intuitive than they may
have given themselves credit for. And what I hear routinely is.
They don't know how to describe it, but it's as
if they feel a shift. Something changes. It's like the

(10:37):
atmosphere gets lighter. It feels like the sun came out.
They feel like their grief is not as great, which
is another very interesting phenomenon. When you cross over someone
who has died, your grief now takes a different path
because you weren't able to distinguish your grief from the

(10:58):
grief of the person who dies, because it did. How
do you differentiate the energy of profound sadness? Once you
cross them over, you're actually alone with your own thoughts,
and your grief is less because, in an ironic twist,
you have power in the situation because you know where

(11:20):
they are. You cross them into the heaven world. There's
no question.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah, yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I remember this was early on when I was opening
up to mediumship, but there was this one spirit that
was with me all the time.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
It was so much so that I knew his name,
I knew everything.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
And when I reached a medium and said, you know,
I've got the spirit after me, I don't know what
to do, and we crossed him over. For me, there
was a shift, but it was a sense of I
felt emotional, I felt love. It was like you came
close to the door, do you know what I mean?
It was like you came so close yield that love.

(12:02):
And it was weird because it was love, not necessarily
love for someone.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That had frightened me.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But it was just this connection to this universal love
force that was amazing. But then there was this sense
of grief, and that's what took me by surprise. It
was this loss, like, oh my god, this person, this spirit,
this person who was with me is no longer with
me because they did they crossed into the light and
they're gone. And so there was that momentary like sense

(12:31):
of loss as well, which was a very strange thing.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
And then it just got calm after that, there was
a shift.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, it's a very very strange and profound experience. And
I wonder, you know, those who are not sensitive, if
they would get that from it, do you know what
I mean? If they would understand the feelings of love
or the feeling of loss or whatever feeling you know,
you might experience as you're going through this.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
I had an individual who whose life didn't work. Nothing
he did work, and I met his wife at a
coffee shop and she's describing, you know, finances are terrible
and she can't seem to work. And he's a good man,
but these are problems. And I said, well, I mean

(13:18):
to ask you a weird question. Is he alone in
his body? And she said what I said, is he
alone in his body? And she said, how weird you
would ask that? I could be psychic? She said, he
never feels alone. I said, well, was he a twin
or was there a miscarriage before he was born? And
there was, he had a twin, but the twin died,

(13:39):
you know, before he you know, he was born, but
the twin died. And so I handed her a Crossing
over a prayer card and these people can order these
cards on ghost helpers dot com. This doesn't show very well.
It's weird because it has directions for the living and
the dead on the card. So she took a car

(14:00):
at home and she and her husband sat down in
a quiet place and they read the crossing over prayer repeatedly.
He's not psychic. She doesn't consider herself psychic or a
medium or anything. Just people who are suffering and they're
looking for answers, but they don't know who to ask.

(14:20):
They don't even know the question to ask, so they
just said this prayer. Prayer is an is a is
a conversation with God on an intimate level. And they
felt this thing leave him. He felt this thing leave
his body, and they saw this filmy thing, and then

(14:40):
they saw this light. And she said her husband hasn't
been the same since. He laughs and he talks, and
he said, I had somebody with me from the time
I was born. I was never alone in my body.
I've heard this story repeatedly. I've heard this. We were
over and over again. When they cross over the person

(15:03):
who died, especially if they were a twin or a miscarriage,
they're finally alone and it's like the light comes out
for them. And these people would never tell you that
they were psychic.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
Well, it's an interesting thing that you say that. Because
I was a twin and the twin died and there
was a medium, I am convinced, and it's in my book.
I'm convinced that this spirit whose name was David, that
was with me basically trying to get me to open up,
was that twin. But I had a medium pick up

(15:40):
on that and I never knew it. She said, who's
the d name, Who's David? She said I was a
twin and I said no, no, no, no no. And
then I went to my mother and I asked her
and she says, yeah, I'm pretty sure you were. I'm like,
why am I finding this out now? Because it wasn't
something we talked about back then. We never talking about
the sixties, so it's it's odd that you say this.

(16:01):
And I do believe that that spirit that we crossed
that day was the twin and I feel like that's
why I felt that grief. I didn't know it at
the time, but you know, looking back at it, I
think that's why I felt that sense of loss as well,
in that sense of love.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
That would make that would make a lot of sense.
I had a woman who's who had children in the
sixties and they wouldn't tell her that she had twin girls,
and one of the girls died, and so I'm working
with her as a private client and I said, I
think you had twins. She said, no, you know, I didn't.

(16:40):
You know there was a problem, but I only had
one child. And I said, I'm telling you, I'm getting
the same thing. Your medium said, I think there's a twin.
So I said, you know what, I bet your daughter
knows that there was a twin. So she contacts her daughter,
and her daughter says, of course, I was a twin.
My twin never leaves me, she's with me all the time.

(17:01):
The same thing this woman, but this one knew she
had a twin, and she was in the business world,
so she would never consider her self psychic. Not that
people in the business world can't be, but it wasn't
on her mind. So I suggested that they do a
beautiful ceremony and bring flowers and go to the beach,
because we were in San Diego, you know, go to

(17:23):
the beach and say these prayers and ask you know,
you're asking God to take this soul. And they both
were started just sobbing as they were. They went through
the process, They went through this beautiful, deeply spiritual ceremony
that they designed themselves. I didn't design this for them.

(17:46):
I just offered a prayer. Then she said, I'm I'm free.
Now I'm alone in my body. I'm free, and my
twin is free. And that sense of joy for both
of them was tremendous.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Yeah, it's it's amazing. I believe that do you ever
deal though, I mean, do you have ever.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
People reach out to you with mental illness and they
think that they're either having hauntings or whatever it is.
Because I get a lot of that as well, and
in my senses that it's something going on in the brain,
not something going on in the house.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Have you had to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I have had a case recently that has caused has
caused me to rethink, you know, I think additionally about
some things. I mean, I'm I'm a big fan of
Brian Weiss. Many lives, many masters, and things that happen
in past lives can shave off parts of the soul

(18:48):
based on the levels of trauma. When you cross the
soul over, the soul receives that restoration energy that the
higher realms provide, as it is described in the twenty third.
So he restores my soul in this case, this so bizarre,
I just have to share it. I have long been

(19:10):
an advocate that you do not need Ouiji board, You
do not need to row cards or angel cards or runs.
You need your divine connection and that's it. And if
you're a really good medium, you don't need those tools.
So I'm working with this client and I go through this,
you know, a checklist protocol. Do you have any of

(19:30):
these tools? No? No, no, But you know, my mother's
always had a Wigi board, really and she said, yeah,
it was really bad. Okay, well where is it? And
have you destroyed it? My mother has it. I'll ask
her if I can destroy it. So her mother said, oh,
I'm so glad to get rid of it. So they

(19:50):
destroyed the Ouiji board and we did a lot of
other things that I have in some of my books,
but that one action began to ship the energetic relationship
among every family member. I mean, I've been watching this
unfold over the last three weeks, and you know, the

(20:11):
mother is in a different place. The daughters, you know
who one of the daughters who had a problem is
now feeling like she can focus, she can work. So
what if sometimes the mental illness is its past life.
It could be childhood experiences, it could be a lot

(20:32):
of things. But what if it is also that there
could be an element of black magic that has been
haunting the family and each person reacts differently. And we're
beginning to see the dynamic here, which has been pretty
astounding to watch this.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, I would imagine, yeah, you had mentioned too this.
Some ghosts actually share with you why they haven't crossed.
What's what are some of the surprising ones.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I cleared a house in Virginia. Beach. Lady had a
pretty little cottage. She was like a condo at the beach,
and she knew she had a ghost and the ghost
wasn't mean or anything. And long story, I mean, I'm
in California, so how people are connecting me with me
and parts of the world is kind of a thing.

(21:27):
So she connects and I remote you to her house
and she had a woman who's dressed in bloody, muddy
Civil War era, you know, eighteen sixties clothing. And I said,
she said, oh my god, what took you so long?
I said, I I'm sorry. I didn't know you were

(21:50):
expecting me. And she said, well, I have been expecting you.
I can't deal with this by myself, you know how
you kind of look around and go, I'm really having
this conversation. But okay, I said, what can't you deal
with And she said, look, I know I'm dead. See
all these little red bullet holes I got shot. But

(22:11):
these two hundred Civil War soldiers, these clueless guys, think
that I'm just going to give them, you know, bandage
them up because I'm a Civil War nurse and send
them back out into the battle. They don't have a
clue that they're dead, and I can't cross over until
I can take them with me. I said, okay, her

(22:33):
name was Helen Stanton. I'll never forget this ghost. So
I crossed over the Civil War dead, who were so surprised.
It's like, I'm dead, Are you sure? Yeah? Look at
all that red. So it was a very weird, a
weird situation. I was in Yorktown, Virginia, crossed over. I

(22:55):
was at a cemetery in Yorktown, Virginia, and there were
all of these women who were at the cemetery, and
I thought I would see Civil War dead and Revolutionary
War dead because at the cemetery in Yorktown, Virginia, you
have graves from both of those wars. And I'm looking

(23:16):
at this scenario and there are all these women in
clothing represented representing their economic status in eighteen sixty five,
because that was the year that one by one they
each died. And I said, why are you all in
this graveyard? And they said, well, we came looking for

(23:39):
our loved ones. They were Union you know, wives and
girlfriends and daughters, and they were Confederate you know, wives
and girlfriends and daughters. But in death it doesn't matter.
And they all knew they died. They died of scarlet fever,
they died of pneumonia, they died of They knew all
the methods of their own death. And they couldn't find.

(24:02):
They thought if when they died, they could go find,
you know, their fiance, their husband, their child who left.
And they said, well, why aren't they here? And I said,
because they may not know they're dead. They're still on
the battleground. But let's get you crossed over and the
higher realms will be able to assist you more than

(24:23):
I can possibly do here. But let's let's do that.
But and I detailed that, and I wrote a book,
ghost Stories from the ghost point of View, and that
story detailed each woman told her story about that person
that she was looking for. And it was it was
hard to hear that these these men never came back.

(24:44):
And they wrote the War Department, some of them, and
and of course after Lincoln died, everything was just chaos.
But anyway, they knew they were dead. But they were
looking for their they were looking for the men who
didn't come home, and even in death, they were still looking.
I'm waiting, Sad.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Said, do you mind if I share something with you.
I was in Scotland a few I was in Scotland
a few years ago and there's a cemetery called the
Greyfriars Bobby, And in the Greyfriars there is a chapel
and I went in with another woman that I know
who she doesn't she's not a medium, but she does
it somehow.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
She's able to do some automatic writing.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And I picked up on the spirit of a man
in the chapel and I went that direction and he
told me that he didn't deserve to cross because he
was a peasant, but he missed his wife and he
missed his son who had crossed into the life. So
he knew he was dead, he knew his family was gone,

(25:47):
but he didn't feel like he had the right to
go because he was a peasant. And we talked him
through it, and after he crossed.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
It was it was the funny thing.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
There was someone playing the organ, and the organ music
was going and people around us, they were watching us,
and you could see that they were. They were starting
to cry. As he went through the light, the emotion
was palpable. The organs stopped, the lights went up, and
they told us they were closing for the day. And
it was just at that moment, and then he crossed

(26:21):
through and went into his family, you know, to see
his family. It's amazing what keeps people here. It isn't
that he was stuck in this. I mean, he was stuck,
but it isn't that he was stuck because he didn't
know he was dead. And he wasn't stuck because it
was an accident.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
He study. He was stuck because he didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Think he deserved it.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
A thousand times I crossed over a client come and say,
you know, my mother in law died and she just
won't cross over. I mean, we all know she's here.
And I said, well, let's let's see what we can do.
And I talked to her and she said, well, I
was born in said and died and said, you know,
Jesus can't love me, which was completely anathema to the

(27:06):
teachings of Christ. Teachings of Christ are our love and
embrace and hope. I mean, when you really study the
teachings of Christ, it's only about love, the teachings of
Buddha and all of the great ones. It's only about

(27:26):
the love, which is the ultimate. It's the ultimate answer.
So I said, you know, not that I get. I'm
not judging you in any way. I'm just saying that
it's not for me to judge. When you walk into
that light, You're going to meet people who love you.

(27:46):
It's not about judgment. It's about love, about not about sin.
And so once she was crossed over, the whole family
felt better. It was amazing.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
It really is incredible. You've written nine books and built
a community around ghost helpers. What is the most rewarding
or surprising response you've received from someone who used your methods?

Speaker 3 (28:23):
That they are at peace, they're not guilty, that they understand,
and they are now themselves closer to God. There is
probably no more rewarding statement than that. And that statement
came from a client in North Dakota whose seventeen year

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old son took his own life, and she wanted me
to cross him over and again, I said, I want
you to try the compassion prayer for suicide, and I'd
like you to do this. It's the last act as
his parent and she said it will be hard, and
I said, yes, but it's going to be the most

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meaningful thing you ever do. So she did that excuse me,
and it changed her. It shifted her feelings of grief
on such a profound level that about a year later,
as I was writing the Crossingover Prayer book, she wrote
me back and she said, can you write a prayer

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that I can say for my son every night? And
she said, I now talk to parents whose children took
their own lives and I tell them about the crossing
Over prayer. But I loved my son and I still
want to have a prayer that's really not so much
just for him, but a prayer any parent can say

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to continue to help my son in a karmically correct
way by sending this prayer to him in while he
is in the light. And I did that. It's the
prayer for to say, or anyone to say after their
loved one has crossed over if the method of death

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was suicide.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Beautiful.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
So, before we close, is there any final story, lesson
or message you'd like to share with our listeners.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
It's simply this, when you find the courage and the
spiritual backbone to face that someone died and they might
need help crossing over because they don't understand what happened
to them. And you say the crossing over prayer or
the prayer for suicide, or there's a prayer for a

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child who has died. You do this and you help
that soul. This is the compassion you will want for yourself.
This is an opportunity to connect to the Light, to God,
to Christ, to all of the great ones who have
shown us the way through love and compassion. And it

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changes the sender and it changes the receiver. And that
is one of the most powerful things about prayer that
anyone can appreciate and accept. And Scott, I want to
thank you with all my heart for giving me an
opportunity to share this information for anyone who could use

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it well.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Thank you and thanks for sharing your perspective and these
tools for helping both a living and the dead and
for our listeners. If you'd like to learn more about Tina,
her books, or the Crossing Over Prayer, visit ghosts Helpers
dot com. You'll find resources, guidance, and ways to explore
Tina's work further. And as always, you can find me
at Mediumscott Allen dot com you can book a reading,

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check out upcoming live events by my book, or listens
to more episodes of the Enlightened Light podcast wherever you.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So thank you for joining us, and remember helping the
dead also helps a living. Thanks for joining us and
we'll see you next time.