November 20, 2025 • 19 mins
President Donald Trump abruptly reversed his longstanding opposition to public disclosure of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein’s network, telling House Republicans to back a measure requiring the Department of Justice to release Epstein-related files. He previously labelled the disclosure effort a “hoax” and actively resisted it, but as bipartisan and intraparty pressure mounted—including from conservative lawmakers—the tide shifted and he pledged to sign the bill if passed.
The legislation mandates the DOJ to publish all unclassified records tied to Epstein’s investigations within 30 days, with limited allowances for redactions only to protect victims or continuing probes; it explicitly bars withholding records on the basis of embarrassment or political sensitivity. The move comes amid growing scrutiny of Epstein’s ties to powerful figures and renewed demands for accountability, even as questions linger about Trump’s motivations for this pivot and whether it signals a genuine commitment to transparency or a tactical retreat under mounting pressure.
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The legislation mandates the DOJ to publish all unclassified records tied to Epstein’s investigations within 30 days, with limited allowances for redactions only to protect victims or continuing probes; it explicitly bars withholding records on the basis of embarrassment or political sensitivity. The move comes amid growing scrutiny of Epstein’s ties to powerful figures and renewed demands for accountability, even as questions linger about Trump’s motivations for this pivot and whether it signals a genuine commitment to transparency or a tactical retreat under mounting pressure.
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How Trump reversed course on the Epstein files as his administration faces lingering suspicion about their release | CNN Politics
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the CNN article about Trump signing the
Epstein Files bill. This article, once again was authored by
Adam Kankren, Evan Perez, Kristen Holmes, and Kaitlyn Collins. The
(00:20):
strategic shift comes after months of felt gambits, dismissals, and
outright resistance to releasing the files, all of which has
sat precious attention and time from the administration's core agenda.
Well should have dealt with it a long time ago.
And you know what else is goofy. People are like, well,
why didn't Biden do anything for four years? Why didn't
Trump do anything for four years before that? Why didn't Obama?
(00:44):
Why didn't George Bush? Why didn't Bill Clinton? See that's
the problem, folks. This spans multiple administrations. We're talking about
the first Clinton administration all the way on, and nobody
did shit about it. So when people out here are
talking about, well, why didn't buy I can do something.
That's a fair point, and I agree one thousand percent.
(01:04):
As you all know, I have been very very vocal
about people like Bill Clinton, about people like Joe Biden
and the way he handled this stuff about Joe Biden's
CIA director, about everybody involved. But the truth is Trump
hasn't done shit, either, not his first term or this term.
And please don't even bring up the fact that Epstein
(01:24):
was arrested during Trump's first administration, because we all know
how that turned out. And I don't know about you,
but I don't give full credit for a project that's
only half done. The president now faces some of the
lowest approval ratings of his term so far, as well
as the twin challenges of waging an uphill battle toward
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the midterms while keeping the lid on the simmering divisions
over Epstein. Bel the midterms are going to be rough.
I'm telling you right now. I've talked to multiple people
who are independent voters who are not voting MAGA this
time around, not after what's going on with Epstein. And
there's a lot of people I know that that was
the single thing that made them vote for Trump in
(02:05):
the first place. They thought they were going to get transparency.
They thought they were getting a guy that's coming in
to blow the lid off things. Instead, he hunkers down
and pulls the lid tighter. So yeah, people have a
right to be upset, people have a right to feel betrayed,
and anyone who is out here demeaning those people are
part of the problem. Anyone who is using absolutism with
(02:29):
politics is somebody that you should avoid because guess what,
both sides have good ideas, right. Good ideas don't come
from just the left or the right. The whole point
is to listen to the best ideas, put those ideas
into motion, and make the country better. But no, we
can't even do that. We have to argue and fight
about fucking everything, even about child molesters. Is that really
(02:51):
where we want to be as a country. For me,
I've had enough, and according to the emails that you
folks have been sending me, you folks have had enough
as well. I think that the president was in the
right position at the end. GOP Senator Mike Rownd said
of his support for the Epstein measure. The rest of
the story now is that they will have to deliver
on that package in very short order, and then it's
(03:14):
going to depend upon what's in the package and what's
been withheld. Well, yeah, and I have to tell you,
mister Mike Rounds, it's up to you to hold him accountable. Look,
these guys need to understand that Trump isn't forever Trump
and trump Ism is going to end up going away
in a couple of years. So if these guys want
to keep it moving as politicians, they better get in
(03:35):
line because things are changing, and things are changing rapidly.
Trump's signature on the bill and the credit he claimed
for its success capped a public push for the files
that the President himself first fueled nearly a year and
a half ago, after he pledged on the campaign trail
to release the materials if elected. I mean, all you
have to do is go and listen to him on
(03:56):
the Lex Friedman Show, and he talks about it directly.
There multiple other places as well. And then never mind
what Dan Bongino said, or Cash Betel or jd Vance
or Donald Trump's own son. But all of a sudden,
it's a hoax. All of a sudden, we should all
shut up and move on. Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
I'm not part of your little cult and you're not
(04:16):
going to gaslight me into believing that things are moving
in the right direction. They're not full transparency or my
fat mouth keeps running there. It is. That's the deal,
Take it or leave it. The administration further heightened expectations
in February when Bondi distributed the Epstein files binders to
conservative influencers at the White House. The event was a dud.
(04:40):
Virtually all of the information was already public, sparking public
backlash and opening the door to months of private tensions
among the top DOJ officials. Well, I could have told
them that it was all bunked right away, like I
did the second this was announced. I came out swinging
because I knew it was BS have everything they need.
(05:01):
They could have released it day one, like they said.
At the very least, they could have went in and
attacked the NPA. Notice they don't even talk about that
because that's their baked in shield. That's what protects all
these co conspirators from any sort of real harm. And
when you look at that NPA, it was obviously went
into under false pretenses. The government was lied to, they
(05:24):
were deceived, and Jeffrey Epstein and his people never lived
up to their end of the bargain. So why is
that NPA still an effect. Bondi later claimed that the
administration was pouring over newer material, only for the DOJ
to announce months later then no further disclosure would be
appropriate or warranted. And this is where they're going to
have a big, gigantic problem, because you can't announce that
(05:45):
you have no evidence and then open a new investigation
into your political enemies. That's not how it works in America,
at least historically. Maybe the rules have change and I
was in some kind of coma or something, but I
don't see a court in the land excepting this kind
of BS nonsense of an investigation. After they just came
out and said they had nothing, all of a sudden,
(06:06):
you have new information materialized. Where it come from? Who
gave you this new information? Watch they're going to say,
Gallaine Maxwell, that's gonna be my guess. Okay, I'm saying
it right here and right now, Ghlaine Maxwell gave us
new information, and because of that, we're going to commuter sentence.
Wait and see, folks, and then wait and see how
(06:26):
quick my fat fucking yeah pops off. The ensuing firestorm
pitted the White House against many of the MAGA figures
who had aided Trump's rise, sparked a bipartisan effort on
Capitol Hill to force the release of the files, and
prompted an internal scramble to tamp down an issue that
threatened to consume the administration through much of the summer.
Well here's an idea. Don't promise it, you're not going
(06:50):
to deliver. Do the right thing, tell the truth, be
upfront with the American people, and stop politicizing this horrible,
horrible situation. The effort became more challenging in the wake
of revelations that magnified Trump's pass connections to Epstein, including
that the President's name had surfaced in the files. Trump
(07:12):
has not been accused of any wrongdoing in connection with Epstein,
and I've said that too from the beginning. I haven't
seen anyone come out that I've talked to personally or
credibly accused President Trump of taking part in the abuse.
But let's not get it twisted. That's not what we're
talking about. We're talking about his inaction. We're talking about
(07:32):
him covering this up because that's what's happening. So the
question is, why who's he covering it up for? What's
he so worried about. Now, Look, I'm not saying that
inside of these files, We're not going to find damning
information on a multitude of people, including Trump. What I
am saying though, is so far we haven't. Now. The
emails certainly open up the conversation about the cover up,
(07:56):
about Donald Trump trying to massage this into something it's not.
That is certainly a valid criticism, and in my opinion,
that's exactly what's happening right now. As Thomas Massey says,
Donald Trump is probably probably attempting to defend his friends
right to make sure that donors and people that are
(08:16):
around them aren't outed as Jeffrey Epstein's buddies, because that's disastrous.
We've seen it time and time again. You don't have
to be involved in an actual crime, but if you
were around this man, especially after his conviction, how can
you look at anybody with a straight face and act
like you had no idea who dude was That? Shit
doesn't work, nobody's buying that, and you make yourself out
(08:38):
to look like a jerk off. But these people continue
to do it instead of just being honest and upfront
and saying, yup, I was around, this is what I saw,
this is what I know. I'd love to speak to
the FBI. Is that too much to ask? We have
actual children and women who were treated horribly by this
man and all you people that were around collecting checks.
(08:58):
Stacey Plasket should be held accountable. And look, if I'm
the asshole for making that demand, cool, I'm the asshole
every day of the week. Within the White House, AIDS
sought to manage the expectations of their allies, trying to
explain that publicizing the rest of the files risked harming
victims and violating the privacy of people whose names were
in the documents but not credibly accused of wrongdoing. Such bullshit.
(09:23):
When they indicted my people, boy, they had a bunch
of names in those indictments that had nothing to do
with it. They also tried to freeze people's bank accounts
who received money from my loved one who got charged
with RICO. So save the bullshit. Okay. When it's regular people,
you have no problem kicking indoors, waving forty fours and
acting like the goon squad. But when it's your buddies,
(09:44):
your donors and everybody else, Oh, everybody, be quiet, keep
your mouth shut, don't say anything. Yeah, vafongul Okay, that's
what I think. Trump meanwhile repeatedly took the social media
to try to browbeat Republicans in line, insisting that the
files he once vowed to relie we're now little more
than a democratic hoax. Yet neither approach succeeding in quelling
(10:06):
the calls for more disclosure. Well, yeah, because you are
lying to us. Everybody knows that you're lying about the files. Okay,
point blank period. We're trying to explain to people that
they're believing in something that does not exist. A senior
White House official said. That's why it's so frustrating. What
doesn't exist, The fact that Nadia Marsenkova, Sarah Kellen Vickers,
(10:31):
Leslie Groff, and Adriana Ross were co conspirators, the fact
that Darren Endyke and Richard Kahn were directly in the
middle of all of it. That doesn't exist. Well, that's weird.
Seems like it exists to me, and I can assure
you to the thousand girls who were abused, it's not
a hoax. At one point, as the congressional effort to
(10:52):
compel the Epstein files release gain steam, officials floated, launching
the new DOJ investigation as a way to alleviate the
pressure and block any more documents from being released. An
administration official said, Bingo like I said they would, that's obstruction. Okay,
people need to be held accountable. If we have a
real country, this shit's gonna get nipped in the bud. Unfortunately,
(11:14):
we don't have a real country. But it's not clear
whether the option made it to Trump. A White House
official said the idea of an investigation into Democrats came
after the emails were released by the House Oversight Panel
last week. The Justice Department declined to comment. They had
access to all of it. What they didn't have access
to what the estate has bullshit, nobody's buying that. They
(11:39):
thought you were stupid. They thought they could just come
out and say, oh, there's nothing there, that's the end
of it. But what they don't know or didn't know,
is that nobody's buying that bs. There's too much out there,
too much information that's already available for anyone to buy that.
And that's why this hole that they've dug for themselves
just keeps getting deeper. During Wednesday's unrelated press conference, Bondi
(12:01):
said that new information obtained by investigators had prompted her
to reopen the Epstein matter without specifying what it was.
Oh yeah, I know they have oodles of new information,
stuff we've never seen before. Huh, wait didn't pound BONDI
said that didn't exist. Good luck trying to make a
case here, because what they're doing right now is literally
(12:22):
walking into the party and shoving their dick directly in
the mashed potatoes. So last Friday, as the House vote
on releasing the files loomed, Trump abruptly called for the
Dojada probe Epstein's connections to a handful of Democrat aligned figures,
including former President Bill Clinton. He also sought an inquiry
into the banking giant JP Morgan chase association with Epstein.
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Responding to the probe, spokespeople for Clinton and JP Morgan
maintained that they were not involved in Epstein's crimes. While
Bill Clinton has some answering to do, he took a
lot of Jeffrey Epstein's money, folks, a whole lot of it.
He was with Jeffrey Epstein a whole lot. And while
I'll say the same thing that I said about Donald Trump,
I haven't seen any credible allegations that Bill Clinton was
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engaging in abuse. He most certainly was around, and he
most certainly seen things. So what did you know and
when did you know it? Another man that needs to
be under oath. The White House insists that Trump has
always been on the side of releasing the files. Nice
gaslighting attempt, but no, he could have released them without Congress.
He didn't need anyone to help him out. He's the president. Rather,
(13:28):
he's always been against Republicans falling into the democratic trap
of talking about this rather than focusing on the historic
tax cut signed into law, the fact that zero illegal
aliens have entered our country in five months. What you're okay? Sure?
Zero illegal aliens? Huh, how do they know that? Such nonsense,
and the many other accomplishments of the Trump administration on
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behalf of the American people, White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson
said in a statement to CNN. So focus on nine
other things, but we can't fit one more thing on
top of it. Bros out here talking about check out
how cool my lawn is while the whole ass house
is on fire. Nobody buys it, man, nobody's buying this
shit anymore. Well, maybe cat turn and maybe libs of
(14:12):
TikTok and that DC Drano dude and some of those
other morons. But the rest of us, we're onto your shit.
And since the opening of the new investigation, multiple White
House officials have insisted to see Ann that Trump will
not stand in the way of the documents being released
and that AIDS have little reason to believe the new
investigation will affect the process, though Bondi declined to offer
(14:34):
any explicit assurances on Wednesday. I will believe it when
I see it. Trust me when I tell you. I'd
be happy to come back here and say, look, the
Trump administration is doing the right thing. Pound Bondi's on board.
We're getting the documents and there's no bullshit, and I'll
gladly say it if it's true. Unfortunately, your boy has
(14:54):
some doubts. Within the DOJ. Some officials have lamented that
Trump's novel support for really seeing the files amounts to
a lose lose, with Bondi and her department now facing
dueling directives to both run an investigation and make public
it's pertinent documents. All by design. The whole entire idea
is to stop the information from reaching you. That's the
(15:15):
point the White House's belated bid to now lean into
the Epstein files as a political attack line has also
generated some grumbling among allies on Capitol Hill and in
the broader Trump orbit, who had hoped to move on
from the challenging period. Bro no, move on, There is
no justice, no accountability. What do you mean move on?
This is in some argument between two congressmen, and we're
(15:39):
just gonna move on. Fuck you, We're not moving on
from anything. So you better get in line. You better
do what the people who are paying the bills are
telling you to do. And that's the American tax payer.
Let's be clear, Donald Trump's not in charge. You are.
In the last two weeks, some of these allies noted
Trump oversaw an end to the record long government shutdown,
(15:59):
promoted the administration's efforts on key affordability issues, and hosted
a series of high profile diplomatic events. Yeah, with bankers
and Saudi royals. Real great for the average person because
we're all seeing the benefits of that. Huh, everybody's life
is so great. As car repossessions hid an all time high,
as house prices drop, as grocery prices increase, save the bullshit,
(16:22):
please Yet, as Trump and his aides try to turn
the tables on Democrats over Epstein. This is all anyone's
talking about, Connin said. The power of the presidency is
the ability to set the agenda. He added, and to
the extent that this is a distraction, it does undermine
what else he can do. Well, I don't care how
about that. He should have done the right thing from
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the very beginning. Should have been up front, shouldn't have
tried to lie, shouldn't have bullshited us, shouldn't have told us,
oh yeah, the Epstein files. I'd love to release them
and then sit on them when you find out that
your name's in them, and you're going to be embarrassed,
So please, I don't care. If you were so worried
about your agenda, this would have been baked into it
and you would have done the things you said you
were going to do while on the campaign trail, and
(17:05):
now that you haven't, well, don't cry about the people
that are now holding you accountable. This is how politics works,
or how it should work. But yet again we find
ourselves standing on the edge of whatever comes next. The
bill is signed, the ink is dry, the headlines already
fading like it barely mattered. And maybe that's fitting in
its own twisted way. Maybe it's a reminder that nothing
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in this fight was ever going to be handed over
with a bow. Nothing about this has ever been clean,
or fair or dignified. Every inch has been clawed out
of concrete, every step has been uphill in wet sand.
Every victory has left us with a taste of blood
in our mouth. But the survivors are still here. The
people who refuse to shut up are still here. The
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ones who were ignored, shame dismissed, attacked, minimized, and told
to go away, they're still standing. They survived the worst
thing a human being can survive, and the system still
couldn't break them. So if the power think they're going
to stop this now with midnight signatures and bureaucratic shell games,
they've widely misjudged who they're dealing with. Because this isn't
(18:08):
just a political fight anymore. It's personal, it's human. It's
about the people who lost everything and still refuse to disappear.
And I think that's where the hope lives. Not in
the bill, not in the paper, not in the signatures,
but in the fact that millions of people are watching
now who weren't watching before, People who know the smell
of bullshit on contact, people who see through the silence,
(18:30):
people who are not going to let a lock door
or adaction bar or a national security excuse become the
end of the story. The country's awake now, really awake
in a way that can't be undone. So let them try.
Let them try to slow walk it, let them hide
behind process, let them pretend they don't hear the pounding
at the door. Let them sign things in the dark
and hope no one notices. Because the clock is ticking
(18:53):
and the truth has the pulse, and sooner or later,
it's going to break through every wall that they stack
in front of it. And when that moment comes, when
the files drop, when the names hit daylight, when the
room finally fills with everything they've spent decades trying to suffocate,
there's going to be silence again. But not the silence
of secrecy, not the silence of midnight paperwork. It will
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be the silence after a building collapses, and in the quiet,
the survivors will be the one still standing, and every
single person who tried to bury them will have to
hear the sound of that not applause, not celebration, just
the truth, finally, undeniably, deafeningly real. All of the information
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description box
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the CNN article about Trump signing the
Epstein Files bill. This article, once again was authored by
Adam Kankren, Evan Perez, Kristen Holmes, and Kaitlyn Collins. The
(00:20):
strategic shift comes after months of felt gambits, dismissals, and
outright resistance to releasing the files, all of which has
sat precious attention and time from the administration's core agenda.
Well should have dealt with it a long time ago.
And you know what else is goofy. People are like, well,
why didn't Biden do anything for four years? Why didn't
Trump do anything for four years before that? Why didn't Obama?
(00:44):
Why didn't George Bush? Why didn't Bill Clinton? See that's
the problem, folks. This spans multiple administrations. We're talking about
the first Clinton administration all the way on, and nobody
did shit about it. So when people out here are
talking about, well, why didn't buy I can do something.
That's a fair point, and I agree one thousand percent.
(01:04):
As you all know, I have been very very vocal
about people like Bill Clinton, about people like Joe Biden
and the way he handled this stuff about Joe Biden's
CIA director, about everybody involved. But the truth is Trump
hasn't done shit, either, not his first term or this term.
And please don't even bring up the fact that Epstein
(01:24):
was arrested during Trump's first administration, because we all know
how that turned out. And I don't know about you,
but I don't give full credit for a project that's
only half done. The president now faces some of the
lowest approval ratings of his term so far, as well
as the twin challenges of waging an uphill battle toward
(01:44):
the midterms while keeping the lid on the simmering divisions
over Epstein. Bel the midterms are going to be rough.
I'm telling you right now. I've talked to multiple people
who are independent voters who are not voting MAGA this
time around, not after what's going on with Epstein. And
there's a lot of people I know that that was
the single thing that made them vote for Trump in
(02:05):
the first place. They thought they were going to get transparency.
They thought they were getting a guy that's coming in
to blow the lid off things. Instead, he hunkers down
and pulls the lid tighter. So yeah, people have a
right to be upset, people have a right to feel betrayed,
and anyone who is out here demeaning those people are
part of the problem. Anyone who is using absolutism with
(02:29):
politics is somebody that you should avoid because guess what,
both sides have good ideas, right. Good ideas don't come
from just the left or the right. The whole point
is to listen to the best ideas, put those ideas
into motion, and make the country better. But no, we
can't even do that. We have to argue and fight
about fucking everything, even about child molesters. Is that really
(02:51):
where we want to be as a country. For me,
I've had enough, and according to the emails that you
folks have been sending me, you folks have had enough
as well. I think that the president was in the
right position at the end. GOP Senator Mike Rownd said
of his support for the Epstein measure. The rest of
the story now is that they will have to deliver
on that package in very short order, and then it's
(03:14):
going to depend upon what's in the package and what's
been withheld. Well, yeah, and I have to tell you,
mister Mike Rounds, it's up to you to hold him accountable. Look,
these guys need to understand that Trump isn't forever Trump
and trump Ism is going to end up going away
in a couple of years. So if these guys want
to keep it moving as politicians, they better get in
(03:35):
line because things are changing, and things are changing rapidly.
Trump's signature on the bill and the credit he claimed
for its success capped a public push for the files
that the President himself first fueled nearly a year and
a half ago, after he pledged on the campaign trail
to release the materials if elected. I mean, all you
have to do is go and listen to him on
(03:56):
the Lex Friedman Show, and he talks about it directly.
There multiple other places as well. And then never mind
what Dan Bongino said, or Cash Betel or jd Vance
or Donald Trump's own son. But all of a sudden,
it's a hoax. All of a sudden, we should all
shut up and move on. Sorry, that doesn't work for me.
I'm not part of your little cult and you're not
(04:16):
going to gaslight me into believing that things are moving
in the right direction. They're not full transparency or my
fat mouth keeps running there. It is. That's the deal,
Take it or leave it. The administration further heightened expectations
in February when Bondi distributed the Epstein files binders to
conservative influencers at the White House. The event was a dud.
(04:40):
Virtually all of the information was already public, sparking public
backlash and opening the door to months of private tensions
among the top DOJ officials. Well, I could have told
them that it was all bunked right away, like I
did the second this was announced. I came out swinging
because I knew it was BS have everything they need.
(05:01):
They could have released it day one, like they said.
At the very least, they could have went in and
attacked the NPA. Notice they don't even talk about that
because that's their baked in shield. That's what protects all
these co conspirators from any sort of real harm. And
when you look at that NPA, it was obviously went
into under false pretenses. The government was lied to, they
(05:24):
were deceived, and Jeffrey Epstein and his people never lived
up to their end of the bargain. So why is
that NPA still an effect. Bondi later claimed that the
administration was pouring over newer material, only for the DOJ
to announce months later then no further disclosure would be
appropriate or warranted. And this is where they're going to
have a big, gigantic problem, because you can't announce that
(05:45):
you have no evidence and then open a new investigation
into your political enemies. That's not how it works in America,
at least historically. Maybe the rules have change and I
was in some kind of coma or something, but I
don't see a court in the land excepting this kind
of BS nonsense of an investigation. After they just came
out and said they had nothing, all of a sudden,
(06:06):
you have new information materialized. Where it come from? Who
gave you this new information? Watch they're going to say,
Gallaine Maxwell, that's gonna be my guess. Okay, I'm saying
it right here and right now, Ghlaine Maxwell gave us
new information, and because of that, we're going to commuter sentence.
Wait and see, folks, and then wait and see how
(06:26):
quick my fat fucking yeah pops off. The ensuing firestorm
pitted the White House against many of the MAGA figures
who had aided Trump's rise, sparked a bipartisan effort on
Capitol Hill to force the release of the files, and
prompted an internal scramble to tamp down an issue that
threatened to consume the administration through much of the summer.
Well here's an idea. Don't promise it, you're not going
(06:50):
to deliver. Do the right thing, tell the truth, be
upfront with the American people, and stop politicizing this horrible,
horrible situation. The effort became more challenging in the wake
of revelations that magnified Trump's pass connections to Epstein, including
that the President's name had surfaced in the files. Trump
(07:12):
has not been accused of any wrongdoing in connection with Epstein,
and I've said that too from the beginning. I haven't
seen anyone come out that I've talked to personally or
credibly accused President Trump of taking part in the abuse.
But let's not get it twisted. That's not what we're
talking about. We're talking about his inaction. We're talking about
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him covering this up because that's what's happening. So the
question is, why who's he covering it up for? What's
he so worried about. Now, Look, I'm not saying that
inside of these files, We're not going to find damning
information on a multitude of people, including Trump. What I
am saying though, is so far we haven't. Now. The
emails certainly open up the conversation about the cover up,
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about Donald Trump trying to massage this into something it's not.
That is certainly a valid criticism, and in my opinion,
that's exactly what's happening right now. As Thomas Massey says,
Donald Trump is probably probably attempting to defend his friends
right to make sure that donors and people that are
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around them aren't outed as Jeffrey Epstein's buddies, because that's disastrous.
We've seen it time and time again. You don't have
to be involved in an actual crime, but if you
were around this man, especially after his conviction, how can
you look at anybody with a straight face and act
like you had no idea who dude was That? Shit
doesn't work, nobody's buying that, and you make yourself out
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to look like a jerk off. But these people continue
to do it instead of just being honest and upfront
and saying, yup, I was around, this is what I saw,
this is what I know. I'd love to speak to
the FBI. Is that too much to ask? We have
actual children and women who were treated horribly by this
man and all you people that were around collecting checks.
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Stacey Plasket should be held accountable. And look, if I'm
the asshole for making that demand, cool, I'm the asshole
every day of the week. Within the White House, AIDS
sought to manage the expectations of their allies, trying to
explain that publicizing the rest of the files risked harming
victims and violating the privacy of people whose names were
in the documents but not credibly accused of wrongdoing. Such bullshit.
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When they indicted my people, boy, they had a bunch
of names in those indictments that had nothing to do
with it. They also tried to freeze people's bank accounts
who received money from my loved one who got charged
with RICO. So save the bullshit. Okay. When it's regular people,
you have no problem kicking indoors, waving forty fours and
acting like the goon squad. But when it's your buddies,
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your donors and everybody else, Oh, everybody, be quiet, keep
your mouth shut, don't say anything. Yeah, vafongul Okay, that's
what I think. Trump meanwhile repeatedly took the social media
to try to browbeat Republicans in line, insisting that the
files he once vowed to relie we're now little more
than a democratic hoax. Yet neither approach succeeding in quelling
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the calls for more disclosure. Well, yeah, because you are
lying to us. Everybody knows that you're lying about the files. Okay,
point blank period. We're trying to explain to people that
they're believing in something that does not exist. A senior
White House official said. That's why it's so frustrating. What
doesn't exist, The fact that Nadia Marsenkova, Sarah Kellen Vickers,
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Leslie Groff, and Adriana Ross were co conspirators, the fact
that Darren Endyke and Richard Kahn were directly in the
middle of all of it. That doesn't exist. Well, that's weird.
Seems like it exists to me, and I can assure
you to the thousand girls who were abused, it's not
a hoax. At one point, as the congressional effort to
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compel the Epstein files release gain steam, officials floated, launching
the new DOJ investigation as a way to alleviate the
pressure and block any more documents from being released. An
administration official said, Bingo like I said they would, that's obstruction. Okay,
people need to be held accountable. If we have a
real country, this shit's gonna get nipped in the bud. Unfortunately,
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we don't have a real country. But it's not clear
whether the option made it to Trump. A White House
official said the idea of an investigation into Democrats came
after the emails were released by the House Oversight Panel
last week. The Justice Department declined to comment. They had
access to all of it. What they didn't have access
to what the estate has bullshit, nobody's buying that. They
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thought you were stupid. They thought they could just come
out and say, oh, there's nothing there, that's the end
of it. But what they don't know or didn't know,
is that nobody's buying that bs. There's too much out there,
too much information that's already available for anyone to buy that.
And that's why this hole that they've dug for themselves
just keeps getting deeper. During Wednesday's unrelated press conference, Bondi
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said that new information obtained by investigators had prompted her
to reopen the Epstein matter without specifying what it was.
Oh yeah, I know they have oodles of new information,
stuff we've never seen before. Huh, wait didn't pound BONDI
said that didn't exist. Good luck trying to make a
case here, because what they're doing right now is literally
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walking into the party and shoving their dick directly in
the mashed potatoes. So last Friday, as the House vote
on releasing the files loomed, Trump abruptly called for the
Dojada probe Epstein's connections to a handful of Democrat aligned figures,
including former President Bill Clinton. He also sought an inquiry
into the banking giant JP Morgan chase association with Epstein.
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Responding to the probe, spokespeople for Clinton and JP Morgan
maintained that they were not involved in Epstein's crimes. While
Bill Clinton has some answering to do, he took a
lot of Jeffrey Epstein's money, folks, a whole lot of it.
He was with Jeffrey Epstein a whole lot. And while
I'll say the same thing that I said about Donald Trump,
I haven't seen any credible allegations that Bill Clinton was
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engaging in abuse. He most certainly was around, and he
most certainly seen things. So what did you know and
when did you know it? Another man that needs to
be under oath. The White House insists that Trump has
always been on the side of releasing the files. Nice
gaslighting attempt, but no, he could have released them without Congress.
He didn't need anyone to help him out. He's the president. Rather,
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he's always been against Republicans falling into the democratic trap
of talking about this rather than focusing on the historic
tax cut signed into law, the fact that zero illegal
aliens have entered our country in five months. What you're okay? Sure?
Zero illegal aliens? Huh, how do they know that? Such nonsense,
and the many other accomplishments of the Trump administration on
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behalf of the American people, White House spokeswoman Abigail Jackson
said in a statement to CNN. So focus on nine
other things, but we can't fit one more thing on
top of it. Bros out here talking about check out
how cool my lawn is while the whole ass house
is on fire. Nobody buys it, man, nobody's buying this
shit anymore. Well, maybe cat turn and maybe libs of
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TikTok and that DC Drano dude and some of those
other morons. But the rest of us, we're onto your shit.
And since the opening of the new investigation, multiple White
House officials have insisted to see Ann that Trump will
not stand in the way of the documents being released
and that AIDS have little reason to believe the new
investigation will affect the process, though Bondi declined to offer
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any explicit assurances on Wednesday. I will believe it when
I see it. Trust me when I tell you. I'd
be happy to come back here and say, look, the
Trump administration is doing the right thing. Pound Bondi's on board.
We're getting the documents and there's no bullshit, and I'll
gladly say it if it's true. Unfortunately, your boy has
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some doubts. Within the DOJ. Some officials have lamented that
Trump's novel support for really seeing the files amounts to
a lose lose, with Bondi and her department now facing
dueling directives to both run an investigation and make public
it's pertinent documents. All by design. The whole entire idea
is to stop the information from reaching you. That's the
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point the White House's belated bid to now lean into
the Epstein files as a political attack line has also
generated some grumbling among allies on Capitol Hill and in
the broader Trump orbit, who had hoped to move on
from the challenging period. Bro no, move on, There is
no justice, no accountability. What do you mean move on?
This is in some argument between two congressmen, and we're
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just gonna move on. Fuck you, We're not moving on
from anything. So you better get in line. You better
do what the people who are paying the bills are
telling you to do. And that's the American tax payer.
Let's be clear, Donald Trump's not in charge. You are.
In the last two weeks, some of these allies noted
Trump oversaw an end to the record long government shutdown,
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promoted the administration's efforts on key affordability issues, and hosted
a series of high profile diplomatic events. Yeah, with bankers
and Saudi royals. Real great for the average person because
we're all seeing the benefits of that. Huh, everybody's life
is so great. As car repossessions hid an all time high,
as house prices drop, as grocery prices increase, save the bullshit,
(16:22):
please Yet, as Trump and his aides try to turn
the tables on Democrats over Epstein. This is all anyone's
talking about, Connin said. The power of the presidency is
the ability to set the agenda. He added, and to
the extent that this is a distraction, it does undermine
what else he can do. Well, I don't care how
about that. He should have done the right thing from
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the very beginning. Should have been up front, shouldn't have
tried to lie, shouldn't have bullshited us, shouldn't have told us,
oh yeah, the Epstein files. I'd love to release them
and then sit on them when you find out that
your name's in them, and you're going to be embarrassed,
So please, I don't care. If you were so worried
about your agenda, this would have been baked into it
and you would have done the things you said you
were going to do while on the campaign trail, and
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now that you haven't, well, don't cry about the people
that are now holding you accountable. This is how politics works,
or how it should work. But yet again we find
ourselves standing on the edge of whatever comes next. The
bill is signed, the ink is dry, the headlines already
fading like it barely mattered. And maybe that's fitting in
its own twisted way. Maybe it's a reminder that nothing
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in this fight was ever going to be handed over
with a bow. Nothing about this has ever been clean,
or fair or dignified. Every inch has been clawed out
of concrete, every step has been uphill in wet sand.
Every victory has left us with a taste of blood
in our mouth. But the survivors are still here. The
people who refuse to shut up are still here. The
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ones who were ignored, shame dismissed, attacked, minimized, and told
to go away, they're still standing. They survived the worst
thing a human being can survive, and the system still
couldn't break them. So if the power think they're going
to stop this now with midnight signatures and bureaucratic shell games,
they've widely misjudged who they're dealing with. Because this isn't
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just a political fight anymore. It's personal, it's human. It's
about the people who lost everything and still refuse to disappear.
And I think that's where the hope lives. Not in
the bill, not in the paper, not in the signatures,
but in the fact that millions of people are watching
now who weren't watching before, People who know the smell
of bullshit on contact, people who see through the silence,
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people who are not going to let a lock door
or adaction bar or a national security excuse become the
end of the story. The country's awake now, really awake
in a way that can't be undone. So let them try.
Let them try to slow walk it, let them hide
behind process, let them pretend they don't hear the pounding
at the door. Let them sign things in the dark
and hope no one notices. Because the clock is ticking
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and the truth has the pulse, and sooner or later,
it's going to break through every wall that they stack
in front of it. And when that moment comes, when
the files drop, when the names hit daylight, when the
room finally fills with everything they've spent decades trying to suffocate,
there's going to be silence again. But not the silence
of secrecy, not the silence of midnight paperwork. It will
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be the silence after a building collapses, and in the quiet,
the survivors will be the one still standing, and every
single person who tried to bury them will have to
hear the sound of that not applause, not celebration, just
the truth, finally, undeniably, deafeningly real. All of the information
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