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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to take a
look at another portion of a grand jury deposition from
two thousand and seven two thousand and eight Operation Leap Year,
and this time we're going to be hearing from one
of the victims themselves. Like usual, the names are redacted,
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and this time there are so many redactions we don't
even know who's asking the questions. So with that said,
why don't we dive in? Good afternoon? Misredacted? Could you
state and spell your name for the record? Answer redacted?
Redacted or redacted? Question? And where do you currently live? Answer?
I live? Do you want me to give you the
full address? Question sure? Answer redacted, West Palm Beach. Question Okay,
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you're living with your parents now? Answer yes. Question where
you serve with a subpoena to appear before the grand
jury today? Answer yes. Question and do you understand that
an order was signed by a judge compelling you to
appear and answer questions? Answer yes. Question and that order
states that what you tell the grand jury won't be
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used against you unless you perjure yourself. Answer yes. Question
Do you understand that you are under oath and if
you don't tell the truth answer, I can go to jail. Yes.
Question okay, let's start with where you went to high school?
Answer redacted? Question? How old are you today? Answer twenty one?
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Question and what's your day of birth? Answer redacted question?
What year did you graduate from? Redacted? Answer two thousand
and four? Question? And where are you currently working? Answer?
I currently am not working? Question but you are? Redacted?
Answer redacted? Question? And where where will that be? Answer
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Fort Lauderdale, Coral Springs question what type of position will
that be? Answer redacted? Question? Have you works since the
time that you graduated from high school? Answer? Uh huh.
Question can you tell the grand jury what type of
jobs you've had? Answer? I worked out redacted. I worked
in a club up in Orlando as redacted as well.
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I have also worked at a sports bar as a waitress.
Question when you were at high school, where did you work?
Answer redacted and redacted? Question And do you know Jeffrey Epstein?
Answer yes, I do. Question can you tell the grand
jury how you first came to meet mister Epstein? Answer?
I met mister Epstein through two acquaintances redacted and redacted,
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and I met them at a beach resort. They made
a proposition to me. Later then I picked them up
and they gave me directions to the house, and that's
where I was formally introduced to mister Epstein. Question okay,
and let me just go back over that a little bit.
You mentioned that you had two acquaintances, redacted and redacted,
and that you met them at a beach resort. Correct
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answer yes. Question and you said that they made a
proposition to you. What was that exactly? Answer? Redacted had
asked if I wanted to make some money, and she
was working for this guy Epstein and Palm Beach, so
I told her I was interested. And the further we
went into detail about massaging them, that you would have
to take off articles of clothing and there would be
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touching and fondling involved. Question How old were you when
this happened? Answer about sixteen? Question? And how old was redacted? Answer?
Same age? Question? And how did you know redacted? Answer?
We went to redacted together? Question and was she in
the same grade in high school? Answer yeah? Question and
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you mentioned that redacted had previously worked for Epstein or
was currently working for Epstein? Answer yeah, that's right. Question.
So they explained this proposal to you, and you said
that you would be interested. Answer yes. Question what happened next?
Answer within a couple of days to a week. I
picked them up and I went to his house to
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work for him, and I was introduced or adacted who
was his assistant. She took me upstairs to Epstein's bedroom,
and that's where the massage took place. I was naked
and he tried fondling me and I wouldn't have it.
So after the massage, he gave me another proposition to
bring girls to the house, and for every girl that
I brought, I would make two hundred bucks. Question. All right,
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we'll go back over that a little bit more slowly.
I know this is a lot of information, So let's
go back to the proposition that redacted and redacted made
to you. Did they say that you would be paid
for massaging mister Epstein? Answer yes. Question and how much
would you be paid? Answer two hundred? Question. Now, you
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said that they had told you that you might have
to take your clothing off. Answer They told me that
I was expected to take my clothing off and that
there would be fondling. Question Okay, and what did they explain?
What meant. Answer just that he'd be touching me. Question okay,
and so you agreed to do that, and you went
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to mister Epstein's home. Answer correct question. And where was
that located? Answer Palm Beach bri Away question b r
I l O. Answer yes. Question. And when you arrived
at the home, you said that you were driving with
redacted and redacted. Answer that is correct. Question Tell us
how you got into the house. Answer? We went through
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a gate on the side of the house that led
to the back, and we just rang the doorbell and
redacted answered the door, and we were standing in the kitchen,
and then redacted brought me upstairs. Question okay, now, did
you have any did redacted tell you anything about what
you would do when you got upstairs? No, she never
discussed that with me, is the answer. Question Did you
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say anything to you about taking your clothes off? Answer no,
she never discussed that with me. Question okay, so when
you arrived upstairs, you said that you went into the bedroom.
Answer that is correct. Question What was in the bedroom? Answer?
It was a bedroom that had a door that then,
I want to say, led to a bigger more than
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just a bathroom. It was a bigger room with like
pretty large size walking closet, a shower, a steam shower,
and then two sinks on the right and in the
middle laid the massage table, and then to the left
there were two couches. Question and so the massage table
was already set up when you arrived. Answer that is correct.
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Question okay. And after a dactid led you up to
the bedroom, what did she do? Answer? She had left?
And that's when Epstein came in. Question okay. And when
mister Epstein came in, what was he wearing? Answer? He
was wearing a towel. Question okay? And nothing else? Answer
nothing else? Question and what did he do? Answer? He
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laid on the table and that's when the massage began.
And later on he when he got in, I took
off my clothes and I was just wearing my bottoms
and he later tried to touch me and he grabbed
my butt, and that's when I had a problem. I
told him that I didn't feel comfortable. So later he
took the towel off and he was laying on his
back and he redacted, asking me to redact it. And
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then after that everything was done. Question okay. So when
mister Epstein redacted. Then the massage or whatever was over. Answer? Yeah,
it was over. Question And once that happened, what did
he do? Answer? Just got up and dried himself off
and then walked me downstairs. Question and you got dressed
as well? Answer that's right. Question And when did you
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go back downstairs? What happened? Answer? I went back into
the kitchen and just pulled redacted and redacted aside, and
we just left. Of course, I got paid. Question okay,
and tell us where you got paid, who paid you,
and how much you received? Answer? Epstein paid me. I
received two hundred, but I cannot recall if it was
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upstairs that he paid me, or if he waited until
I got back downstairs. Question okay, And when he paid
you the two hundred was it in small bills or
large bills? Answer? Big bills? One hundred's question okay, So
two hundred dollars bills? And so you said that he
pulled redacted and redacted aside. Do you know what that
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was about? Answer? He would never pay them in front
of me. He always was funny about that, So I'm
sure he was just paying them for bringing me. Question okay,
And you mentioned that you told mister Epstein that you
were uncomfortable with him touching you. Answer that's correct question,
and what became of that? Answer? Later on, before I left,
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he had addressed me to not massage him anymore, but
asked me if I could bring girls over, and for
every girl that I brought him, he would pay me
two hundred Question. Okay, so you were uncomfortable with him
touching you, you weren't going to do any more massages?
Answer no, question. He wanted you to find other girls.
Answer that's correct question. And he wanted girls that would
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let him touch them. Answer uh huh. Question after that
first massage, did you perform any other massages at his house?
Answer absolutely not. Question did you bring girls? Answer that's
correct question. Tell us how you started to bring girls
to mister Epstein's house. Answer just girls that I met
in high school, acquaintances, people that I just said hi
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and by to. A lot of them actually heard about
it through a couple of girls that I had brought,
and they were interested. Some of the girls asked me
about it. Just girls in school I talked to, just
get on the subject. They had no problem with it.
Question Okay, so when you found a girl that you
thought would be interested. What exactly would you tell her? Answer?
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I asked them if they were interested in making extra money,
and that I know an older, wealthier man in Palm
Beach who liked to have massages, and they would get
paid two hundred dollars. The more they did, the more
they make. And I would explain to them in detail
that what was expected of them when they showed up
at the house. And I also told them that if
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they were underage, just lie about it and tell them
that you're eighteen. Question Let's talk first about what you
said that you tell them what was expected of them?
Answer yes. Question First of all, why did you tell
them that? Answer because that's what I was told? Question
by whom? Answer redacted and redacted? Question okay, And did
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Jeffrey Epstein ever address you about don't bring girls over
here if they don't know what's going to happen? Answer absolutely.
Question okay, So all the girls were supposed to know
that when they got there, they would be undressing. Answer.
They would be undressing, There would be touching, there would
be fondling. He was very big on that. He told
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me never to bring a girl over unless she knew
what was expected. Question Okay, and did you also tell
them that he would redacted? Answer? I didn't really talk
to them about that. I didn't know if he did
it with everybody or if it was just me that
he did that. Question. But you told them that they
all would have to be partially naked or fully naked. Answer,
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partially or fully naked, and there would be touching and fondling. Question. Okay,
how many girls do you think that you brought to
mister Epstein's house? Answer seven, between seven and ten. All right, folks,
we're going to wrap up the first episode right here,
and then the next episode dealing with the topic, we're
gonna pick up where we left off. All of the
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