The April 24, 2007 testimony before Federal Grand Jury 07-103 in West Palm Beach was part of Operation Leap Year, the federal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s sex-trafficking operation. The proceedings took place inside the U.S. Courthouse and reflected a moment when federal prosecutors were actively laying out evidence, witness testimony, and investigative findings related to Epstein’s alleged sexual exploitation of underage girls. This phase of the grand jury process focused on establishing patterns of conduct, corroborating victim statements, and clarifying the scope of Epstein’s activities, including how victims were recruited, transported, and compensated. Testimony presented during this session was aimed at helping jurors understand the systematic nature of the abuse rather than isolated incidents, reinforcing the argument that Epstein’s conduct met federal thresholds for serious criminal charges.
In this episode, we begin digging into the deposition of one of the young women who accused Jeffrey Epstein, shifting the focus away from legal maneuvering and back onto the human cost at the center of this case. Her sworn testimony offers a chilling, first-person account of how she was recruited, what she was told, and what she experienced inside Epstein’s world, filling in details that never fully surfaced in public at the time. The deposition strips away euphemisms and defenses, replacing them with a raw narrative that shows how methodical and normalized the abuse became from the victim’s perspective. As we walk through her words, it becomes clear how closely her account aligns with others, reinforcing that these were not isolated claims but part of a broader, deeply entrenched pattern that federal investigators were already aware of in 2007.
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In this episode, we begin digging into the deposition of one of the young women who accused Jeffrey Epstein, shifting the focus away from legal maneuvering and back onto the human cost at the center of this case. Her sworn testimony offers a chilling, first-person account of how she was recruited, what she was told, and what she experienced inside Epstein’s world, filling in details that never fully surfaced in public at the time. The deposition strips away euphemisms and defenses, replacing them with a raw narrative that shows how methodical and normalized the abuse became from the victim’s perspective. As we walk through her words, it becomes clear how closely her account aligns with others, reinforcing that these were not isolated claims but part of a broader, deeply entrenched pattern that federal investigators were already aware of in 2007.
to contact me:
bobbycapucci@protonmail.com
source:
EFTA00009586.pdf
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/the-epstein-chronicles--5003294/support.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
where we left off with the survivor deposition from the
Florida Grand Jury documents during Operation Leap Year. Question Okay,
and were there any in addition to this rule about
the girls had to know what was expected? Did mister
(00:22):
Epstein have any other rules in terms of what the
girls look like or what he liked? Answer no question. Okay,
there were girls that you brought that he didn't like.
Answer there were a few girls he wasn't crazy about,
he didn't really like. He didn't favor redacted, for instance,
twenty three. He thought she was kind of too old.
Question Okay, so you brought a girl name or dacted
(00:44):
who was twenty three years old? Answer yes, question and
you were told that that was too old? Answer yes,
question did you ever bring her back? Answer no question.
What about any other girls that he didn't like? Answer
this other girl that I went to high school with redacted?
She was maybe a year younger, and him and her
got redacted. I told her in detail what was expected,
(01:07):
and she, to me, was all for it. And then
when she got there decided she didn't want to perform
what was necessary, so they got redacted. And after that
I never really brought her back. Question Okay, and did
either Jeffrey Epstein or redacted say anything to you about
what happened with redacted? Answer? He had made a comment
just about I had asked. He had asked me for
(01:29):
someone to come over and work, and I suggested redacted.
He kind of nodded, not really interested. He told me
to find somebody else, So I assumed that he meant
he didn't really care for her. Question Okay, now that
you mentioned redacted, who was twenty three? What was the
age range of the other girls that you brought to
mister Epstein's home. Answer? High school, sixteen to eighteen. Question
(01:53):
were there any girls who are younger than that? Answer? Yes?
Question who was that? Answer? Redacted? Question and how old
was she? Answer? She was fourteen? Question? Okay, Now you
were interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department. Answer that's correct. Question.
And during that interview you told them that there were
two ways to make money with Jeffrey Epstein. Can you
(02:16):
explain to the grand jury what those two ways are? Answer?
The more you did is the more you make Basically,
the more clothes that come off, the more you let
him touch you, the more you just let him have
his way with you, is the more that you would make.
Otherwise you would be demoted down to bringing girls over
and just making money that way. Question, and that's what
(02:37):
you were doing? Answer that's correct. Question was bringing girls?
Answer that's correct. Question. If you could explain to the
grand jury how you would go about making an appointment
for the girl to come and give him massage? Answer?
His assistant there would call me, either before they got
into town or while he was in town, and either
(02:57):
she would ask me for a particular girl, preferably one
that he favored, or if I couldn't get hold of
that girl, just bring somebody over to work. I would
call the girl, she would okay it. I would call
redacted back confirm it, set an appointment, and then the
next couple of days we'd go. Question and was Redacted
the person that you always made the appointment with? Answer always?
(03:21):
Question do you remember ever talking to Epstein on the telephone? Answer? Never.
The only time I ever talked to him was physically
in person at his house. Question Okay, redacted? Was really
the person that you had to answer deal with question Okay.
Now you mentioned that sometimes Redacted would request a specific girl.
(03:41):
Answer that's correct. Question did she give you any reason
why he really liked this girl or just is this
girl available? What would happen on those calls? Answer? If
it was a specific girl, she would call me and
just ask can this girl work? She never gave me
a reason. She would never go into It was just
can she work? Yes or no? Question? And Redacted was
(04:04):
saying to you can she work? Answer? I can't recall
if those were the exact words. I can't remember if
it was can she come over in massage? Or can
she work? I don't recall the exact words. Question okay.
And once you made those appointments, then who would normally
take you and the girls to the house? Answer I
would question okay? And who would drive? Answer? I would drive?
(04:29):
Question and we're all Was this always taking place at
mister Epstein's home? Answer yes, question on L Brio Way?
Answer that's correct. Question. And when you spoke with redacted
on the telephone, did you were all of these conversations
about setting up these appointments? Answer when I would talk
to her redacted? Answer yes, question yes answer, Yes it
(04:55):
would be pure business whenever I talked to or redacted.
Question so you didn't have any a friendly relationship? Answer no,
friendly relationship, never socialized unless I was at the house.
It wasn't like that at all. Question Okay, now, when
you would bring a new girl over to the house,
what would you do? Answer? Walk up the same way
towards the back of the house. They would let us in.
(05:18):
I would sit in the kitchen with the girl. I
would either wait for redacted to come in or Jeffrey.
Most of the time it was redacted. Redacted would bring
the girl upstairs. Well, I waited downstairs. After the massage,
the girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and
then we would leave. Question tell us how you would
get paid when you were there in person and you
(05:38):
brought the girls? Answer? What do you mean how I
would get paid? Question? Who would pay you? Answer? Jeffrey
Epstein would pull me aside, whether it be in his
I guess living room slash office. He would just make
sure that when he paid me, it was just me
and him, nobody else was around. Question and how much
would you get paid for each girl? Answer two hundred
(06:01):
and again with the two hundred dollars bills. Answer always
one hundred dollar bills. Question did you ever see the
girl who actually did the massages get paid? Answer no,
I never saw them get paid. He never paid us
in front of each other. Question okay, did the girls
ever tell you that they did get paid or how
much they got paid? Most of the time is the answer?
(06:23):
Question okay? And how much money would each girl get paid? Answer?
It ranges question from answer. It ranges from two hundred
to some got paid three hundred. Like I said, the
more you do, the more you make. There were a
couple of girls that got paid three hundred, four hundred,
and then there were a couple of girls that got
paid two hundred, maybe even one hundred. Question Now you
(06:46):
mentioned that you usually redacted would take the girls upstairs.
Answer that's correct. Question were there ever instances where you
took the girl upstairs? Answer very rarely. I think it
happened once or twice where if it was doing something
or she would need me to go upstairs and set
up I would just go upstairs. I would show her
(07:06):
where the massage table was. I would set it up
for them. I would show them where the towels are,
put the towels on the massage table, and then I
would tell them Jeffrey would be in in a minute,
and then I would walk back downstairs and wait in
the kitchen. Question okay, and when you were in these
other instances where you led the girl upstairs besides the
(07:26):
massage table, did you ever see any other implements that
were used during the massage? Answer? I think there were
maybe a few occasions where I'd walk upstairs to show
the girl, or maybe it was even when the first
massage them, there was like a white redacted on the
table or a white redacted. Answer or question can you
describe that to the grand jury? Answer what it looked like? Question?
(07:50):
What it looked like? Yes, answer, it was like a
redacted It was really redacted. They were redacted. It was white.
I think the top of it may be like pink.
That's all I remember. Question okay, And did any of
the girls ever tell you that redacted use that on them? Answer? Yes,
question okay. Now I'm going to run through the names
(08:11):
of some of the girls that you brought, just to
confirm with a grand jury that you brought them. Answer, okay,
question redacted. Answer that's correct. Question redacted. Answer, that's correct.
Question redacted answer correct question, redacted answer yes question, redacted
answer yes question, redacted answer yes question. And then there's
(08:36):
another girl redacted answer redacted never ever ever worked for Jeffrey.
She accompanied me to his house I think once or
twice and waited in the kitchen with me, but she
never worked for him. Question Okay, but she was somebody
that you brought along with you. Answer that is correct
question on the visits answer yes, question okay. In addition
(08:58):
to those girls that who I just named, you mentioned
a woman redacted who was twenty three? Answer uh huh.
Question were there any other girls that you recall bringing
to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer? I cannot recall bringing anybody else.
Question Okay, Now, one of those girls that we mentioned
was redacted. Correct answer, yes question, and you told the
(09:20):
police that Jeffrey liked the redacted the best? Answer yes question.
How old was redacted? Answer? She was around the same
age as me, maybe a grade lower than me. Question okay,
so she was underage? Answer yes, correct question. And all
of those girls whose names I read were under age
when you brought them there? Answer except for redacted. Question okay,
(09:43):
what did a redacted look like? Answer? Redacted was redacted.
She kind of looks redacted, but she's redacted. Maybe she
had her adacted. She had her adacted. Question was she
thin or heavy? Answer? No, she was. Maybe she had
a redacted figure, maybe a little redacted than me. Question
and how tall do you think she was? Answer? I
(10:06):
don't know about five five five six? Question? Okay. And
you knew that Jeffrey like redacted because he would specifically
request her answer. There were a few occasions that he
would ask for correct question. Okay, And you mentioned that
some of the other girls told you about the redacted
correct answer, yes. Question did some of the girls tell
(10:27):
you what happened inside of that bedroom? Answer? A few
of them did. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up
right here, and in the next episode dealing with the topic,
we're gonna wrap this bad boy up. All of the
information that goes with this episode can be found in
the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
where we left off with the survivor deposition from the
Florida Grand Jury documents during Operation Leap Year. Question Okay,
and were there any in addition to this rule about
the girls had to know what was expected? Did mister
(00:22):
Epstein have any other rules in terms of what the
girls look like or what he liked? Answer no question. Okay,
there were girls that you brought that he didn't like.
Answer there were a few girls he wasn't crazy about,
he didn't really like. He didn't favor redacted, for instance,
twenty three. He thought she was kind of too old.
Question Okay, so you brought a girl name or dacted
(00:44):
who was twenty three years old? Answer yes, question and
you were told that that was too old? Answer yes,
question did you ever bring her back? Answer no question.
What about any other girls that he didn't like? Answer
this other girl that I went to high school with redacted?
She was maybe a year younger, and him and her
got redacted. I told her in detail what was expected,
(01:07):
and she, to me, was all for it. And then
when she got there decided she didn't want to perform
what was necessary, so they got redacted. And after that
I never really brought her back. Question Okay, and did
either Jeffrey Epstein or redacted say anything to you about
what happened with redacted? Answer? He had made a comment
just about I had asked. He had asked me for
(01:29):
someone to come over and work, and I suggested redacted.
He kind of nodded, not really interested. He told me
to find somebody else, So I assumed that he meant
he didn't really care for her. Question Okay, now that
you mentioned redacted, who was twenty three? What was the
age range of the other girls that you brought to
mister Epstein's home. Answer? High school, sixteen to eighteen. Question
(01:53):
were there any girls who are younger than that? Answer? Yes?
Question who was that? Answer? Redacted? Question and how old
was she? Answer? She was fourteen? Question? Okay, Now you
were interviewed by the Palm Beach Police Department. Answer that's correct. Question.
And during that interview you told them that there were
two ways to make money with Jeffrey Epstein. Can you
(02:16):
explain to the grand jury what those two ways are? Answer?
The more you did is the more you make Basically,
the more clothes that come off, the more you let
him touch you, the more you just let him have
his way with you, is the more that you would make.
Otherwise you would be demoted down to bringing girls over
and just making money that way. Question, and that's what
(02:37):
you were doing? Answer that's correct. Question was bringing girls?
Answer that's correct. Question. If you could explain to the
grand jury how you would go about making an appointment
for the girl to come and give him massage? Answer?
His assistant there would call me, either before they got
into town or while he was in town, and either
(02:57):
she would ask me for a particular girl, preferably one
that he favored, or if I couldn't get hold of
that girl, just bring somebody over to work. I would
call the girl, she would okay it. I would call
redacted back confirm it, set an appointment, and then the
next couple of days we'd go. Question and was Redacted
the person that you always made the appointment with? Answer always?
(03:21):
Question do you remember ever talking to Epstein on the telephone? Answer? Never.
The only time I ever talked to him was physically
in person at his house. Question Okay, redacted? Was really
the person that you had to answer deal with question Okay.
Now you mentioned that sometimes Redacted would request a specific girl.
(03:41):
Answer that's correct. Question did she give you any reason
why he really liked this girl or just is this
girl available? What would happen on those calls? Answer? If
it was a specific girl, she would call me and
just ask can this girl work? She never gave me
a reason. She would never go into It was just
can she work? Yes or no? Question? And Redacted was
(04:04):
saying to you can she work? Answer? I can't recall
if those were the exact words. I can't remember if
it was can she come over in massage? Or can
she work? I don't recall the exact words. Question okay.
And once you made those appointments, then who would normally
take you and the girls to the house? Answer I
would question okay? And who would drive? Answer? I would drive?
(04:29):
Question and we're all Was this always taking place at
mister Epstein's home? Answer yes, question on L Brio Way?
Answer that's correct. Question. And when you spoke with redacted
on the telephone, did you were all of these conversations
about setting up these appointments? Answer when I would talk
to her redacted? Answer yes, question yes answer, Yes it
(04:55):
would be pure business whenever I talked to or redacted.
Question so you didn't have any a friendly relationship? Answer no,
friendly relationship, never socialized unless I was at the house.
It wasn't like that at all. Question Okay, now, when
you would bring a new girl over to the house,
what would you do? Answer? Walk up the same way
towards the back of the house. They would let us in.
(05:18):
I would sit in the kitchen with the girl. I
would either wait for redacted to come in or Jeffrey.
Most of the time it was redacted. Redacted would bring
the girl upstairs. Well, I waited downstairs. After the massage,
the girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and
then we would leave. Question tell us how you would
get paid when you were there in person and you
(05:38):
brought the girls? Answer? What do you mean how I
would get paid? Question? Who would pay you? Answer? Jeffrey
Epstein would pull me aside, whether it be in his
I guess living room slash office. He would just make
sure that when he paid me, it was just me
and him, nobody else was around. Question and how much
would you get paid for each girl? Answer two hundred
(06:01):
and again with the two hundred dollars bills. Answer always
one hundred dollar bills. Question did you ever see the
girl who actually did the massages get paid? Answer no,
I never saw them get paid. He never paid us
in front of each other. Question okay, did the girls
ever tell you that they did get paid or how
much they got paid? Most of the time is the answer?
(06:23):
Question okay? And how much money would each girl get paid? Answer?
It ranges question from answer. It ranges from two hundred
to some got paid three hundred. Like I said, the
more you do, the more you make. There were a
couple of girls that got paid three hundred, four hundred,
and then there were a couple of girls that got
paid two hundred, maybe even one hundred. Question Now you
(06:46):
mentioned that you usually redacted would take the girls upstairs.
Answer that's correct. Question were there ever instances where you
took the girl upstairs? Answer very rarely. I think it
happened once or twice where if it was doing something
or she would need me to go upstairs and set
up I would just go upstairs. I would show her
(07:06):
where the massage table was. I would set it up
for them. I would show them where the towels are,
put the towels on the massage table, and then I
would tell them Jeffrey would be in in a minute,
and then I would walk back downstairs and wait in
the kitchen. Question okay, and when you were in these
other instances where you led the girl upstairs besides the
(07:26):
massage table, did you ever see any other implements that
were used during the massage? Answer? I think there were
maybe a few occasions where I'd walk upstairs to show
the girl, or maybe it was even when the first
massage them, there was like a white redacted on the
table or a white redacted. Answer or question can you
describe that to the grand jury? Answer what it looked like? Question?
(07:50):
What it looked like? Yes, answer, it was like a
redacted It was really redacted. They were redacted. It was white.
I think the top of it may be like pink.
That's all I remember. Question okay, And did any of
the girls ever tell you that redacted use that on them? Answer? Yes,
question okay. Now I'm going to run through the names
(08:11):
of some of the girls that you brought, just to
confirm with a grand jury that you brought them. Answer, okay,
question redacted. Answer that's correct. Question redacted. Answer, that's correct.
Question redacted answer correct question, redacted answer yes question, redacted
answer yes question, redacted answer yes question. And then there's
(08:36):
another girl redacted answer redacted never ever ever worked for Jeffrey.
She accompanied me to his house I think once or
twice and waited in the kitchen with me, but she
never worked for him. Question Okay, but she was somebody
that you brought along with you. Answer that is correct
question on the visits answer yes, question okay. In addition
(08:58):
to those girls that who I just named, you mentioned
a woman redacted who was twenty three? Answer uh huh.
Question were there any other girls that you recall bringing
to Jeffrey Epstein's house? Answer? I cannot recall bringing anybody else.
Question Okay, Now, one of those girls that we mentioned
was redacted. Correct answer, yes question, and you told the
(09:20):
police that Jeffrey liked the redacted the best? Answer yes question.
How old was redacted? Answer? She was around the same
age as me, maybe a grade lower than me. Question okay,
so she was underage? Answer yes, correct question. And all
of those girls whose names I read were under age
when you brought them there? Answer except for redacted. Question okay,
(09:43):
what did a redacted look like? Answer? Redacted was redacted.
She kind of looks redacted, but she's redacted. Maybe she
had her adacted. She had her adacted. Question was she
thin or heavy? Answer? No, she was. Maybe she had
a redacted figure, maybe a little redacted than me. Question
and how tall do you think she was? Answer? I
(10:06):
don't know about five five five six? Question? Okay. And
you knew that Jeffrey like redacted because he would specifically
request her answer. There were a few occasions that he
would ask for correct question. Okay, And you mentioned that
some of the other girls told you about the redacted
correct answer, yes. Question did some of the girls tell
(10:27):
you what happened inside of that bedroom? Answer? A few
of them did. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up
right here, and in the next episode dealing with the topic,
we're gonna wrap this bad boy up. All of the
information that goes with this episode can be found in
the description box.
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