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January 1, 2026 10 mins
The April 24, 2007 testimony before Federal Grand Jury 07-103 in West Palm Beach was part of Operation Leap Year, the federal investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s sex-trafficking operation. The proceedings took place inside the U.S. Courthouse and reflected a moment when federal prosecutors were actively laying out evidence, witness testimony, and investigative findings related to Epstein’s alleged sexual exploitation of underage girls. This phase of the grand jury process focused on establishing patterns of conduct, corroborating victim statements, and clarifying the scope of Epstein’s activities, including how victims were recruited, transported, and compensated. Testimony presented during this session was aimed at helping jurors understand the systematic nature of the abuse rather than isolated incidents, reinforcing the argument that Epstein’s conduct met federal thresholds for serious criminal charges.


In this episode, we begin digging into the deposition of one of the young women who accused Jeffrey Epstein, shifting the focus away from legal maneuvering and back onto the human cost at the center of this case. Her sworn testimony offers a chilling, first-person account of how she was recruited, what she was told, and what she experienced inside Epstein’s world, filling in details that never fully surfaced in public at the time. The deposition strips away euphemisms and defenses, replacing them with a raw narrative that shows how methodical and normalized the abuse became from the victim’s perspective. As we walk through her words, it becomes clear how closely her account aligns with others, reinforcing that these were not isolated claims but part of a broader, deeply entrenched pattern that federal investigators were already aware of in 2007.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in
to the deposition given in two thousand and eight to
the Grand Jury in Florida by one of the Jane
Does during Operation Leap Year, which was the first investigation
into Jeffrey Epstein's bullshit. So let's get back to it.

(00:22):
Question okay, and that was when did she tell you that? Answer?
Right when we got outside into the truck? Question as
you were driving away? Answer that's correct. Question Do you
remember which other girls told you about redacted? Answer? I
can't recall. I know there was another one that said
something about the massager, but I wasn't really paying attention.

(00:45):
Question Now, when you first went and gave mister Epstein
the massage, did he ask you for your telephone number
after you were finished? Answer? No, redacted did? Question redacted? Did?
And she took down your telephone number? Answer? She took
down my name and my telephone number. While we're here,
why did they keep redacting Sarah kelln Vicker's name. That's

(01:05):
exactly who they're talking about here. She was the one
that was doing all the scheduling bringing the girls in
so let's just call her by her name. Question after that,
how was all contact made with you? Answer redacted? Question
directly to you? Answer directly toward me. Question okay, So
were there any other instances where she went either through

(01:29):
redacted or redacted to reach you? Answer absolutely not. Question okay. Now,
when you brought girls over, was it the same thing
where they would ask for the girl's name and number?
Answer yes, question and then what happened? Would they continue
to go through you to set up the appointments? Answer?
Most of the time they went through me. Actually, ninety

(01:51):
nine point nine percent of the time they went through me.
On a few occasions, the girls that they liked the best,
for instance, redacted. After a while, me and redacted stop
contact with each other, and Jeffrey just went strictly through her.
Question okay, and when an appointment was made directly with
the girl, you wouldn't necessarily know about it. Answer? I
would not necessarily know about it. Question. And when the

(02:14):
appointment was made directly with the girl, then you wouldn't
get paid correct answer correct question did you hear or
do you know whether some girls that you brought brought
more girls? Answer? Yeah, I'm sure of it. Question, Okay,
when did you first meet redacted? Was it the day
that you went to give a massage? Answer that's correct. Question.

(02:37):
And how did you first meet her? Answer just walking
in the kitchen and waiting for somebody, whether it was
Epstein or redacted. Redacted came and introduced herself as redacted,
and I learned that she was Epstein's assistant. Question and
you said that she was the one who took you
upstairs on the first day. Answer that's correct question. And

(02:57):
we were talking earlier about how appointment would be made
for you to bring additional girls. Correct answer, yes, question
how far in advance would redacted call you to make appointments? Answer?
It depends. Sometimes she would call me in a few
days in advance. Jeffrey is going to be in town
tomorrow or this weekend, have a couple of girls lined up,

(03:18):
or have a girl lined up, So it would be
anywhere between a couple of days to a weekend. Question Okay,
did you ever talk with redacted or did redact it
ever tell you anything about what Jeffrey liked to do
with the girls? Answer? Absolutely not. We never discussed that question.
Did you ever talk with her about a rumor that
you had heard that a girl had intercourse with Jeffrey. Answer.

(03:41):
One day, I was talking on the phone with redacted
and I addressed it with her, asking her about a
rumor I had heard of a girl sleeping with Jeffrey
having intercourse and making one thousand dollars. And she denied
it and said that she doesn't do that kind of thing.
He just plays with them. Question. Okay, so she said
she didn't have inter he just liked to play with

(04:01):
the girls. Answer that's correct question. And when you spoke
with the police, you said that Jeffrey Epstein liked to redacted.
Answer that's correct question. What led you to believe that? Answer?
He just did it. I just learned that Epstein just redacted.
It was like the new thing for him, and it

(04:21):
just started happening and more and more girls were making comments. Question,
So did redacted know that he was redacted? Answer? Not
that I know of. I didn't say anything, and I
don't think she had any idea. I think she knew
there was playing going on. I don't think she knew
what sort question Okay, so she knew that something sexual

(04:42):
was going on, but not necessarily what was entailed? Answer?
Correct question. Okay, did Jeffrey or redacted or anyone else
who worked for mister Epstein ever ask you for proof
of someone's age? Answer? Never. Question. Did they ever specific
instruct you that you shouldn't bring girls who were underage

(05:03):
to the house? Answer? Never? Question. And when you spoke
with the police, you said that at some point Jeffrey
said the younger the better. Answer that's correct. Question. And
even after that, he never said to you, but make
sure that they are over eighteen. Answer. We never discussed age.
He never made a comment about age, except for redacted

(05:24):
that one time about her being too old. He never
told me to go find underage girls. But at the
same time, never said make sure they are over eighteen.
It was never discussed. Question. Okay, all right, redacted, I'm
going to ask you to step outside for a minute
and I will find out if the grand jury as questions.
Thank you very much. Question misredacted. I have to remind

(05:47):
you that you were still under oath. There were just
two follow up questions. The first one is something that
I think you spoke about earlier. But who first asked
you to find other girls? Answer? Who first asked me
to find other girls? Question? Yes, answer that would be Jeffrey.
Question okay, So Jeffrey asked you himself. Jeffrey Epstein asked

(06:08):
you himself. Answer yes, okay. And then the other question
was are you currently in contact with anyone who works
for mister Epstein or himself? Answer? I don't talk to
any of the females that I once brought over there.
I haven't been in contact with Epstein for years. He
tried contacting me a few times. I haven't contacted him back.

(06:29):
I refuse to talk to him. I refuse to talk
to any of the girls that were involved. However, I
did live with one of the girls in Orlando for
a couple of months to a year. I haven't spoke
to her and over a year either. Question okay, So
after and just so the grand jury has a sense
here we are talking about the two thousand and four
to two thousand and five period, is when you were

(06:50):
bringing girls over? Answer that's correct. Question. So since then? Answer?
I don't to be honest with you, I think it
was more two thousand and three, two thousand and four
question okay, answer my junior and senior year. Question okay,
but anyhow, it was a couple of years ago. Answer
several years ago. Question, Okay, redacted, Is there any follow

(07:13):
up on either of those points, yes, redacted, Grand juror
was it Jeffrey Epstein himself trying to contact you or
redacted the witness? I don't know if it was him directly.
I know that his number showed up on my house phone.
I'm assuming because redacted was there, I'm assuming that she
is the one that has been trying to contact me

(07:35):
in the past years. Epstein never talked directly to me
on the phone. Redacted, any other follow up? Okay, thank you, redacted,
Thank you for coming. All right, So that's gonna do
it for this part of the deposition from the grand
jury documents down in Florida that were unsealed, and as
you can see, there were plenty of people coming forward

(07:58):
giving their version of events. The problem has never been evidence.
The problem has always been the lack of will. And
that's why we continue to go over these documents meticulously.
That way all of you get to see them for
yourself or hear them for yourself, and you know just
how bad the fix was in. Can you imagine all

(08:18):
this evidence, all these different people come in front of
the grand jury, all these different people giving their accounts
of what Epstein was up to, and the FBI kicking
the case back down to State and saying, you know what,
there's not enough here. It is so disgustingly ridiculous and
a straight up dereliction of duty. And everybody that's been
involved from the very beginning should feel the fury. And

(08:41):
I know I've said this a million times, but it's
worth saying again. There has to be accountability at some point.
Every single one of us faces accountability in our lives,
whether it's at work, at home, whatever it might be,
but especially on the job site. Right you're at work,
you have a job to do. If you don't do that,
they're gonna find somebody else to do it. But yet

(09:03):
here we have the doj who has kicked the can
down the road time and time again and looked the
other way while they were doing it, and they continue
to do the same thing year after year, and there's
never been any accountability. Well, finally that train seems to
be pulling into the station, and hopefully this is the
beginning of an accountability tour. I know people want to

(09:25):
talk about revenge and embarrassing people, but that really doesn't
hold any weight with me, especially on this podcast. Now,
I can't speak for anybody else or how anybody else
conducts themselves, but if you hear us talking about somebody
on this podcast, you better believe there's a reason we
don't just pop off and talk about whoever. We talk

(09:46):
about the people that were making this machine move, and
those are the people that should be the first ones
under investigation. Those are the people that should be the
first ones that are indicted, and those are the first
people that that should be the ones that end up
getting long ass prison sentences. So that's why we focus
on the people we focus on, and every single person

(10:08):
we talk about here on the podcast has been named
in core documents were credibly accused, and moving into the
new year, you should and can expect a whole lot
more of that because all these people that were around Epstein,
all these people that thought they got away with it, well,
I have some bad news for you. And it's the
same message that I gave out when this story broke

(10:29):
in twenty nineteen. The year twenty twenty six is certainly
the year that the predators have turned into the prey.
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