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December 8, 2025 26 mins
Ghislaine Maxwell has attempted to cast her hair loss as yet another injury inflicted by incarceration, blaming the physical effects of prison while serving a sentence for facilitating the sexual abuse of minors. In her filings and statements, she frames thinning hair as evidence of extreme stress and mistreatment, folding it into a broader narrative of personal suffering. The argument strains credibility, reducing a universally understood consequence of stress and aging into a grievance, while conspicuously ignoring the far greater harm inflicted on the victims at the center of her crimes.

The complaint has landed poorly with critics who view it as emblematic of Maxwell’s continued refusal to accept responsibility. Pointing to hair loss as a symbol of cruelty reads less like a serious health claim and more like an attempt to manufacture sympathy during ongoing legal maneuvering. To many observers, it underscores a familiar pattern: minor personal discomforts elevated to constitutional crises, while the lifelong trauma endured by survivors remains minimized or conveniently absent from her narrative.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The ongoing Gilaine Maxwell saga as she tries and maneuvers
herself into a position where she has the narrative set
that she is being so mistreated in jail, that she
is being treated so poorly in jail, and with the
COVID outbreak on top of that, how can't you give

(00:22):
her bail? Well, we know that the prosecutors sent the
left a letter to the court and explained the treatment
of Gilaine Maxwell and pretty much slapped down the assertions
made by her and her legal team. Well, of course

(00:43):
that wasn't going to be where it ends. Gilaine Maxwell
and her legal team have filed a brief now with
the court and they're disputing what the federal government is saying.
They're disputing what the Bureau of Prisons is saying. And
of course we knew this was coming. Right again, Gilainne

(01:07):
Maxwell and her legal team, they're not going to just
sit on their hands. They're not just going to take
it laying down and say, sure, put me in prison
for the rest of my life. They're going to use
whatever is necessary to try and get this vile woman

(01:27):
this new bail hearing and then get her out of jail.
While she awaits trial. That is their goal, and they
will use whatever loophole, whatever technicality, whatever they possibly can
to try and achieve this goal. Now, so far, the
judge has not really been too receptive to Glayne Maxwell

(01:51):
and her strategies their legal team. Gilaine Maxwell's legal team
has taken loss after loss in multiple courtrooms as they
try and navigate their way through this very dangerous obstacle
course that is Gilaine Maxwell and the truth. See, it's

(02:16):
difficult to defend a client when you know that that
client is not innocent, and you see that whole entire
strategy form before your eyes as they continue to try
and find those technicalities. Right, this is never going to
be a case where her lawyers are like, oh, yeah,
she's innocent, she didn't do any of this stuff. That's

(02:40):
not what they're looking for. They're looking for some sort
of technicality, some sort of loophole, some sort of narrative
that they can run with like this one. Oh, the judge,
she's being treated so badly, she's not getting treated like
the rest of the inmates, and she's getting a flashlight
shine in her face every five minutes. And they try

(03:00):
and build that narrative, and they wrap it up with
the COVID pandemic, and then that becomes their their talking point, right, Oh,
she should be let out. Her conditions are terrible in
jail as it is, and then you add this COVID
on top of it, you have to let her out.

(03:24):
And that is the position that her legal team has
right now, and they're going to do everything that they
can to try and push that narrative and to get
Judge Nathan to sign off on it. So they fired
off their brief in response to the brief that was
sent over by the prosecutors, and that is what we're

(03:47):
going to talk about this morning. So this article is
from the New York Post headline Elaine Maxwell losing her
hair from honorous imprisonment. Lawyers say. This article was authored
by Rebecca Rosenberg. So the jail conditions are what's causing

(04:08):
her to lose her hair? Huh hm, I doubt it.
Maybe the stress brought on by being in jail can
make you lose some of your hair, But just being
in jail, all of a sudden you go bald. All
of a sudden, you lose those locks, and now you're
rocking a telesavalis balded head. What does that even mean

(04:29):
the conditions in jail are making her loser hair? How
about the fact that she's stressing constantly about never seeing
the light of day again, that's making her lose her hair? Probably?
I mean, look, I don't work at the Bosly Hair
club for men or anything like that, but you know,
conditions in jail are so tough for Elaine Maxwell, the

(04:51):
accused pedophile, procureur, co conspirator, fellow scumbag, general all around
scumbag and bipedal serpent, is losing her hair and is
wasting away to skin and bone. Her lawyer's complained in
a new court filing. And now remember this comes on
the tail end of the prosecutors sending their brief over

(05:14):
and denying all of this already, because these assertions were
made by her legal team previously. Remember, and they've been
talking about how bad her conditions are in jail, how
terrible things are for Gilay and Maxwell and jail for
pretty much the whole entire duration of her stay so far,

(05:35):
and certainly since Bobby Sternheim has joined the team. That
has been one of the constant talking points for Bobby
Sternheim since she's joined. Elaine Maxwell's legal team, and she
has been laser focused on trying to leverage some of
these technicalities into a get out of jail free card

(05:57):
for Gilay and Maxwell. While her weight may currently be
fairly consistent, she had lost over fifteen pounds and she
has sustaining hair loss, wrote attorney Bobby Sternheim in the
letter to US District Judge Alison Nathan, who is overseeing
Maxwell's sex trafficking case. Again, stress can cause all of that, right, Anxiety, stress,

(06:21):
lose weight, stop eating, withdraw all of that stuff can occur.
And is she under a lot of stress? Hell yeah,
Is she experiencing a ton of anxiety? Probably so. Again,
I don't think it's the actual prison stay that is
causing her to have any sort of issue. Lose some

(06:44):
hair maybe, or lose a couple of pounds. Pretty sure
that has to do with the stress of being in prison.
The filing was in response to a letter the Federal
Bureau of Prison sent the judge insisting that Maxwell is
well cared for and has maintained a healthy one hundred

(07:06):
and thirty four pounds weight will at the Metropolitan Detention
Center in Brooklyn. Now we know that according to Elaine
Maxwell's legal team. She's saying that Glaine lost fifteen pounds,
but according to the brief filed by the Department of Prisons,

(07:29):
they said she was fluctuating between a couple of pounds,
give or take. So, like usual, there's three sides to
the story, her side, the government's side, and then the truth.
Because the government smart me too. Folks believe it right,
So I take everything they say to me with a

(07:49):
grain of salt as well. But it's obvious what Glaine
Maxwell is up to here. She's definitely trying to leverage this.
Her lawyers are trying to leverage this, and they're going
to use any tool that they find in their toolbox
that they think can get the job done, even if

(08:11):
it's not the proper tool. Right, sometimes you got to
use the back end of the measuring tape to hammer
in the nail. And that's what these people are doing
right now. They're scrambling looking for any avenue, any foothold
that they can dig their feet into and build a

(08:31):
proper strategy to try and get her off the hook.
Because again, they'll never ever, ever, ever, ever be able
to win in a trial. In my opinion, a jury
of her peers is going to hear the evidence laid
out before her, and it is going to be a

(08:52):
real rough go for her lawyers to try and get
this lady off the hook, especially considering just the circumstantial
evidence that's available to us. And imagine if they go
and get all of these girls, the ones from Palm Beach,
all the little high school girls, all the girls that

(09:13):
were abused after and they come in and they testify
against Gilaye Maxwell, one after one, and you just have
a line and a line, a line of girls that
are testifying against Gilaane Maxwell. How was her defense team
supposed to counteract that? Well, my client says she didn't

(09:35):
do it. So that's the end of that. Wrap this
trial up. She's looking at big time trouble. And if
they really go after this case the way they should,
and they continue to prosecute this case in a aggressive manner,
then the only hope Gilay Maxwell has, in my opinion,

(09:57):
is one of these technicalities or one of these Maxwell's
lawyers have frequently complained about the terrible terms of her confinement,
including frequent strip searches, being awoken every fifteen minutes by
a flashlight at night to ensure she's still alive and
countless meals consisting of no more than bread and butter. Oh,

(10:21):
I don't buy that. I certainly don't buy that. Just
bread and butter. What is this nineteen fifty six at Leavenworth.
Give me a break? Bread and butter. Maybe that's all
she's chosen to eat off of her fantastic spread of
bologney corn eighteen day old corn bread and then some

(10:46):
bread and butter. Maybe she chose just to eat the
bread and butter. But I'm sure she was provided with
a full meal like every other inmate. Three hots and
a cot. That's the deal when you go and have
a stay courtesy of the federal government. Sternheim wrote that
while her meal plan may be in compliance with the

(11:09):
BOP policy now, it was not for the first six
weeks of her incarceration. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure that
she was just being starved. They weren't giving her any
food whatsoever. They were like, starve Glane, you're not having
any food, bra That's what they would have You believe

(11:30):
that the prison guards would come by and it was
like Shawshank redemption. They'd beat her, they'd pull her out
of the cell, they'd strip search her in a violent manner,
and then once she starts calming down and she starts
falling asleep, they point a flashlight in her eyes. Give
me a break. Okay, she gets a flashlight pointed in

(11:54):
her cell. Like every other convict, she's been kept in
isolation and been denied access to education and leisure programs, movies,
religious services, and other opportunities. The letter states, Wait a minute,
all of a sudden, she's religious. She's found God. Now

(12:17):
she's gonna go and uh do some hallelujah, do a
little bit of a hallelujah. And as far as education,
the Oxford educated Gilayn Maxwell is going to take a
few community college courses while she's in the houscalha. All Right, Okay,

(12:39):
I guess maybe if there's a a course on morality,
maybe she should take that, because she obviously skipped that
course at Oxford. And leisure programs, what does that even mean?
What is she going to be out on the yard
with the other girls making friendship bracelets. Her lawyers really

(13:02):
think you're stupid. They really think you're dumb, and they
think you're going to believe this nonsensical narrative that they're
trying to pitch, but they're wrong. Leisure time, Huh, leisure
time is for people who didn't abuse children, Glane. It's
obvious that miss Maxwell is bearing the brunt of bop

(13:25):
in competence, Sternheim wrote. Now she's bearing the brunt of
her own incompetence, her own disgusting deeds, and her own
vile way of life. The Department of Corrections and the
prison of the Bureau of Prisons. Well, that's just part

(13:48):
of your new journey, Gilaane. Get used to it. Okay,
get very, very very used to it. Because while the
Department of Prison the Bureau of Prisons might be incompetent,
if anyone has ever deserved to be in custody, it

(14:09):
most certainly is this bipedal serpent, in my opinion, she said.
She said, the MDC has imposed extraordinarily onerous conditions of
constraint on Miss Maxwell to avoid the catastrophic consequences of
negligence occurring at the MCC that resulted in the death

(14:32):
of Jeffrey Epstein. Well, shouldn't you be happy about that?
If you're the lawyer? What you want her to get killed?
Does that benefit you or something? Miss Sternheim she kills
herself or something happens to her. What then no more
gaudy checks rolling in for you. So what is it
that you propose? Do you propose that she leaves isolation

(14:52):
and she's put on the main line. Do you propose
that she is given a whole wing of the jail
to come and go as she pleases. What is it
exactly that you propose? Oh, we know has nothing to
do with any of this. It's all about trying to
get her out. That is what you're setting up, Miss Sternheim.

(15:18):
It is so transparent what these people are up to.
Maxwell's alleged co conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around
scuzbag and bipedal serpent as well. Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself
at the BOP's Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan last year
while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. Uh hanged himself? Uh,

(15:45):
you mean allegedly hanged himself. I'm sure him and Nicholas
TARTAGLIONI were discussing, you know, chicken colored parmesan recipes and
how Jeffrey Epstein could you know, make a proper Sunday
sauce Sternheim demanded that the warden be called before the

(16:05):
court to debrief the judge directly on the conditions. Well, look,
to be honest with you, I don't think it's a
bad idea if if the warden gets called before a
judge at some point anyway for this facility to make
sure the whole facility is being managed correctly, not about

(16:27):
what Gilaine Maxwell's up to. You really think the warden
has time for that? As if there isn't you know
x amount of other prisoners that have to be facilitated
and maintained and watched over. So the warden should come
down and have a chat about Gilaine Maxwell. What makes
her so ef and special? The back and forth over

(16:49):
Maxwell's confinement comes as her attorneys have renewed her bid
for Bell. That right there tells you everything you need
to know of that one little portion of this article.
It cut. The back and forth over Maxwell's confinement comes
as her attorneys have renewed her bid for Bell. That's

(17:11):
what this is all about, folks, That's all about. That's
all that this is about. They know that Maxwell's being
treated like anybody else would be treated in there. They
know that, but they're gonna try and spin it. They're
gonna try and dress up the facts, and they're going
to try and sell it to you as if she
is being treated like she is in a Soviet gulag.

(17:36):
After her arrest in July on charges she recruited girls
and women to be sexually abused by her and Epstein,
Nathan denied her bid for release on a five million
dollar bond. Five million dollars. That was a week proposal. Anyway.
By the way, how are you gonna come with a
weak ass, sorry ass, five million dollar proposal for Bell

(17:56):
when Epstein was talking about a hundred million Because I'll
tell you, in my opinion, Gilain Maxwell was just as
bad as Jeffrey Epstein. She was in some shrinking violet.
She wasn't somebody who was just getting orders and yes
doing a yes man routine. She was hatching these plots,

(18:20):
she was making sure that they went into motion. And
the lieutenants below her, the Core four, well, they were
there to make sure that Gilain and Jeffrey's orders were
followed to a t. In a November twenty fifth letter
to the judge, unsealed Monday, Maxwell's lawyer Mark Cohen asked

(18:44):
that the bell application be filed under seal to protect
her friends and family who plan to co sign the bond.
Zero chance that's occurring. This will all be a public spectacle.
This is something that the public has in and the
days of hiding in the shadows for these people are over.

(19:06):
If you're going to sign the bond to try and
get Giley Maxwell out and you're going to co sign her,
then that's probably gonna come with some scrutiny from the media. Right.
You would think, now, should anybody be giving anyone he's
sending death threats to anybody or threatening anybody? Hell no,
hell no, that's lunatic behavior. But as far as talking

(19:34):
about people who co sign these bonds or people that
are involved in trying to spring her, hell yeah, that's
going to be discussed. It's an important part of the story.
It adds context, right. All of the people that are
around her, all of the people that are working with
her and for her to try and get her out,
they're all parts of this story. And the second that
you put your name down on a legal document like this,

(19:56):
you inject yourself into that story. And people are going
to have some questions. They are legitimately afraid that if
their identities become public, they will be subjected to the
same relentless media scrutiny and threats that miss Maxwell has experienced.
Cohen wrote, again, anybody out there threatening anybody else is

(20:20):
an absolute moron. The idea is to air these people
out and put pressure on prosecution to bring them to justice.
And furthermore, have people around Maxwell received some shitty emails? Probably, yeah, probably,

(20:45):
that's just the nature of the beast, right, But unfortunately
for them, they're defending a very vile person, and there's
going to be a lot of people with a lot
of questions. So while I'll never condone any sort of abusive,

(21:05):
bullying behavior or threatening people, that's a bunch of bullshit.
I do support hard questions. And guess what, those hard
questions don't have to be framed nicely. These people, for
way too long have gotten off with softball questions, if

(21:26):
questions were even ever asked. And now things get ramped
up a little bit and some hard questions come in
from a few different different areas, different people, and all
of a sudden it's oh, we're being harassed, we're being threatened,
and I don't buy it. Just more fodder for the narrative,

(21:48):
more fodder for their narrative, and it goes to help
bolster their argument that Gilay and Maxwell should be out
of jail waiting for at least in their mind. The
filing included examples of several death threats against Maxwell posted
to social media. The judge has agreed to redact the

(22:11):
names of friends and family in court papers, but not
to seal the entire filing. So I'm pretty sure anybody
who has ever had any sort of publicity has received
death threats on social media. Have you folks taken a
look at Twitter lately and the unhinged behavior you see

(22:34):
on there on a regular basis. So I'm sure there's
been some wild ass people posting some wild ass shit
on social media, but they'll blow that up into like
there's a faction of ninja assassins on the trail looking
to get Gilane Maxwell and or family. Well that's not

(22:56):
the case. People have questions. Some of those questions are hard,
and some of those questions might be gruff. But guess what,
Gelainne Maxwell has herself to blame for all of this.
She created this for herself. She chose to cavort with

(23:17):
Jeffrey Epstein. She chose to be involved in this criminal conspiracy,
and she chose to help abuse these children and girls.
So if you're going to co sign for somebody like
this and you're gonna come out swinging in her defense,
don't think that you're not going to be met in

(23:37):
the center of the octagon and challenged. Because this lady
right here is as vile as they come. I don't
see one single reason why she should be out on
bail while she awaits her trial. And all of this

(24:00):
that her legal team has brought before us, all of
the assertions that they have made, they have provided no
evidence of any of this. These are all just assertions
and as far as I can tell, a bunch of
hyperboleef from her legal team. So hopefully Judge Nathan recognizes

(24:20):
all of this for what it is. She seems to
be doing that. And I can understand the redacting of
some of the names. I get that right. Eventually it's
all going to come out. But I understand some of
the redacting of the names. If there are some maniacs
contacting these people, I get it. But at the end
of the day, it's not going to stay private forever

(24:40):
or for long. It's going to come out, who is
defending Guiley, Maxwell, who is putting up dough for her
to get out of jail. All of that stuff's going
to come out. And we know that she still has friends,
we know that she still has some connections. I've said
it from the jump that she has been burned as

(25:01):
an asset. She no longer is afforded the protections that
she had while she was being run as an asset
with Epstein. Those protections are long gone. But she still
does enjoy some of the contact she once had, and
she might have that dirt on some of these people
as well, and you would think she does, right, So

(25:24):
that puts her still in a pretty decent position to
try and perhaps twist an armor to to get some
help here. But as far as having the backing and
protection of the intelligence community, that's done. She's burned as
an asset, just like Epstein. And now they're left to

(25:44):
float on their own and all those ties that they
had to intelligence, be it you know, Massad, the United
the CIA, Russian intelligence, whatever it may be, all of
those ties, all of that evidence that ties them together
has been burned, just like their assets. Epstein and Maxwell

(26:08):
because that's how the intelligence community works. You're never gonna
be able to put together a puzzle and have it
show the intelligence communities fingers in this. That's gonna only
be done by hard charging forensic accounting work. My question

(26:28):
is when in the hell are we gonna start seeing that.
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(26:49):
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