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November 25, 2025 17 mins
Jeffrey Epstein spent years selling the idea that he was some sort of financial prodigy — a Wall Street oracle managing elite fortunes with secret formulas and high-level sophistication. But when you look at the history surrounding the Towers Financial Ponzi scheme, the story doesn’t pass the laugh test. Towers Financial collapsed after raising hundreds of millions of dollars from investors with no real business model to sustain its promises, and the CEO who ended up going to prison publicly accused Epstein of being the brains behind the scam. Yet Epstein somehow walked away untouched, never charged, never meaningfully scrutinized. That alone makes his carefully-crafted origin story look like a fairy tale — or worse, a shield built by power to protect someone too valuable to burn.

And the bigger question that still hangs in the air: if Epstein’s wealth really came from legitimate investment brilliance, then where is the evidence? Where are the documented financial successes that would explain his sudden rise into extreme wealth? No paper trail. No major deals. No proven performance history. Nothing but vague statements, unnamed billionaire clients, and a suspiciously opaque origin narrative that conveniently begins right as the Towers Financial scheme imploded. It’s much easier to believe the uncomfortable explanation — that Epstein’s fortune was seeded by fraud and protected by people with a lot to lose — than the sanitized myth he liked to peddle. The math doesn’t add up, the story doesn’t add up, and pretending it does requires suspending reality.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
In this episode, we're gonna hop back to August first
of twenty twenty one and an article from Radar Online.
In this episode, we're gonna talk about the Ponzi scheme
that Jeffrey Epstein was involved in that somehow he avoided

(00:22):
all responsibility for. So let's dive into this article that
was authored by Dominic Utten. Headline how Jeffrey Epstein made
a fortune from an illegal Ponzi scheme then skipped away
with millions of other people's money. Sounds about right par

(00:44):
for the course for mister scumbag himself. And there was
never any restitution for these people. They stole millions of dollars.
Him and Steve Hoffenberg, they stole a grip of money
from these people. And while Hoffenberg paid his at the
society doing eighteen years in prison, Jeffrey Epstein, of course,

(01:05):
was able to go on and continue his streak of
rape and abuse and money laundering and god knows what else.
When the full horror of billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's crimes
were laid bare in twenty nineteen, the world wondered how

(01:25):
he managed to get away with his abuse for so long.
But as authors Dylan Howard, Melissa Cronin, and James Robertson
revealing their book Epstein Dead Men Tell No Tales, the
man who would be unmasked as the worst pedophile in
American history was guilty of other criminal acts too, and

(01:46):
should have should have been jailed in the early nineteen nineties.
All of that is correct. Dudes should have been in
prison a long time ago. If it was you or
I who got involved in one of these Ponzi schemes,
or you know, redirecting money from someone's pension, you better
believe we'd be doing prison time and we should be right.

(02:08):
You know. I'm all for prison rehabilitation, like I always say,
and for people being able to, you know, not get
felonies or not be put into jail for minor drug possession.
But if you're stealing money like this from people's pensions
and you're involved in financial dick hettery, well, my friend,
there is a nice place for you in jail. As

(02:34):
the authors explain, Epstein's rise through Wall Street was unusual
and unusually fast. Born in New York and raised in
the quiet Brooklyn community of seagate. His early life seemed unremarkable,
and after leaving university without graduating, he initially worked as
a math teacher in Manhattan before being dismissed from the

(02:56):
prestigious Dalton School for his lackadaisical teaching style. Oh, I'm
sure that's all it was. I'm sure that he never
made any passes at any girls while he was at Dalton. Nah,
that never happened. He was a master manipulator. They right,
but Epstein's manipulations weren't always done through legal means. By

(03:17):
the early nineties, the authorities had set their sites on
Epstein for operating a multimillion dollar Ponzi scheme. Now think
about that for a minute. When the authorities zero went
on you for a Ponzi scheme and they're building a case,
you know, money laundering, wirefraud, all of their favorite charges, well,
you know that you're in big trouble. And it is

(03:41):
exceedingly rare for people to end up walking when they're
caught up in something like this. And usually when you
do walk, that's because you turn snitch. You're ratting out
all of your co conspirators. You're ratting out anyone who
was involved in the scheme, and you're looking to not
end up doing twenty years via Rico charges. So that's

(04:04):
obviously what Epstein did. He obviously turned rat, told the
authorities what was going on, and started his working relationship
with whichever scumbag in the government you want to add.
But the fact is, you don't just walk on stuff
like this if you're not being protected. Howard, Cronin and

(04:27):
Robertson also note that the master manipulator was to use
his dismissal to his advantage. True to form, Epstein somehow
managed to turn that failure into a stepping stone to
even greater success a job on Wall Street. They write,
during a parent teacher conference, the twenty three year old
had managed to dazzle one student's financier father. So when

(04:51):
Epstein was fired from Dalton, the broker connected Epstein with
Alan Greenberg, a Wall Street bigwig who was poised to
become chief execut ucative officer of multi billion dollar global
investment bank and brokerage firm bear Stearns. How many times
are you going to fall face first and land clean?

(05:16):
It was a common procedure for Epstein. How many people
leave their little shitty ass teaching job and go get
a job with bear Stearns. How many people happened to
just meet someone's dad during a parent teacher conference and
go on to have this whole Wall Street career. See
that whole entire thing, this whole genesis story here really

(05:37):
doesn't add up to me, honestly. Later that year, Epstein
landed a job at bear Stearns as a low level
junior assistant to a floor trader. He swiftly rose through
the ranks, and within four years he had become a
limited partner, taking on mega millionaire clients like Seagram president

(05:58):
Edgar Bromfin Bromfman. Hm. Where we heard that name before? Oh,
that's right in the Nexium trial. Huh, Clara Bromfman, her sister.
They were right at the top with Keith Rainiery. You
see how all of this is circular. You see how
all of these people at some point were rubbing elbows

(06:20):
and breaking bread and hanging out with each other, getting
in on Wall Street before the nineteen eighties banking boom
allowed Epstein to build a spectacular network of connections that
made him the toast of Manhattan during one of the
most prosperous decades it had ever seen. Well, there's no
doubt about that. This point in time, Wall Street was

(06:43):
quite possibly the greediest it has ever been. Remember the
movie Wall Street with Charlie Sheen and Michael Douglas. That
was a good characterization of stockbrokers and Wall Street in general.
Greed is good. Remember that tagline you ask me how
I know, Well, I might have a stockbroker or two

(07:05):
floating around in my family. Look, the moral of the
story is the financial sector is broken, and all of
these people that are, you know, running around in the
financial sector. I don't even know what to say. Honestly,
at this point. It is an absolute shit show the
way they conduct business. In just a few short years

(07:31):
with Bear Stearns, Epstein had made millions of dollars, was
traveling full time by chauffeur Limo, had billionaires relying on
his financial advice, and was carousing around town with stunning
women on both arms. Still it was not enough. Epstein's
greed and ambition were to push him to grow even

(07:52):
more desperate and reckless in his pursuit of money and influence.
And that's how it always is with these guys, right, Greed, greed, greed,
and more greed and thankfully, a lot of times, that's
also what ends up getting them captured, their greed and
their hubris. In early nineteen eighty one, one of Epstein's

(08:14):
colleagues at bear Stearns tipped off management that Epstein was
testing the boundaries of the law, right Howard Cronnin and Robertson.
After an investigation, Epstein admitted he had loaned twenty thousand
dollars to a friend, Warren Eisenstein, who then used the
money to invest in stocks, with Epstein's insider knowledge guiding him.

(08:36):
It was unethical and potentially illegal, not for Epstein always
finds a way to wiggle off, doesn't he. Epstein somehow
managed to escape with a twenty five hundred dollars fine,
but a few days later he was under the spotlight
again when the US Securities and Exchange Commission opened an
investigation into Epstein's client, Edgar Bronfman, and Epstein was acute

(09:00):
used of illegal securities violations. That should have been in
the end of it right there. He should have been
busted and absolutely disgraced. But that's not the case, is it.
We all know that Epstein somehow, some way parlayed this

(09:21):
into what we see occur later on. Depending on who
you ask, Epstein was either unceremoniously fired at that point
or quit in a blaze of glory. The authors continue.
Either way, it left the unabashed social climber in a
very undesirable position. No longer a Wall Street wonder kind.

(09:44):
Epstein was jobless, homeless, and running out of funds. He
had to get creative. Yeah, well, we all know how
he got creative, don't we. That creativity was to lead
Epstein to take on controversial black market clients like Saudi
Arabian businessman ad Non Koshogi four, whom he helped broker

(10:05):
global armament deals, including the sale of major weaponry like
the a Wax Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft. So
here your ties with Jeffrey Epstein and Saudi Arabia. Remember
we were talking about the Saudi Arabian passport. Well, when
you're helping guys like Kashogi out Ad Non Koshogi, not

(10:26):
Jamal Kashogi, the one who was killed by the Saudis
in the Turkish embassy, but ad Non Koshogi, the famed
arms dealer, Well you know that you're gonna have some
ties to the Saudi royal family, and Epstein obviously parlayed
those ties into getting himself that fake passport and lord
knows what else. In nineteen eighty seven, Epstein's business affairs

(10:52):
had become increasingly shady, and it all came to a
head when he met Steve Hoffenberg of Tower Financial Corporation,
leading debt collection and corporate rating agency at the time.
So right off the bat, the second you tell me
you're a debt collector, I gotta roll my eyes. Debt collector?
The hell does that even mean? In an exclusive interview,

(11:15):
Hoffenberg tells the authors of Epstein Dead Men Tell No
Tales what attracted him to the financier pedophile. I was
very impressed with the unbelievable personality and unbelievable ability of
Jeffrey Epstein to become a friend, and the uncanny ability
that he had as a mastermind criminal on Wall Street.
He says, Jeffrey Epstein was brilliant, was a brilliant, brilliant

(11:39):
Wall Street mastermind in criminality for securities fraud. I was
greatly impressed with his demeanor, his ability to understand complex securities,
underwritings and sales to investors. So that shorthand for Hoffenberg,
saying he recognized someone who would be a important cog

(11:59):
in his upcoming schemes because of Epstein's scumbaggery. He was
so unusual as an executive and had so much ability.
It was just very surprising how gifted he was. His
ability to sell you securities when you weren't looking to
acquire securities was remarkable. He would end up convincing you

(12:22):
to buy securities and Towers Financial you weren't even considering
that he had that gift and that ability. So basically
he's a bullshit artist, snake oil salesman, Carnival Barker, kind
of like a lot of these people out here putting
out these stupid articles we see all the time. But

(12:42):
once again Epstein could not resist the shortcut, even if
it was illegal. Quickly they set the setup at Towers
Financial evolved into a huge Ponzi scheme. As explained by Hoffenberg,
you raise money from one investor to pay another investor.
That's the simple definition of ponzi. Jeffrey Epstein participated full

(13:04):
time and was a mastermind in that part of the
Tower Financial crimes. Towers Financial got into an awful lot
of legal problems and litigations and ended up going into bankruptcy. Now,
normal people who get caught up in this, they go
to jail man, they go to prison. After the authorities
were alerted to the illegal scheme, trustees were appointed to

(13:26):
operate the company, and once again Epstein showed his talent
for manipulation. Jeffrey Epstein had a very strong relationship with
the lawyers that the trustees hired. Hoffenberg tells the authors.
Actually the trustee in bankruptcy at Towers Financial, a man
named Alan Cohen, hired one of Jeffrey Epstein's best friends

(13:47):
and lawyers in Dike and Khan, to investigate Jeffrey Epstein
at Towers Financial, which is remarkable. Jeffrey Epstein manipulated that
occurrence without question. So there's another little golden knight for you.
When I talk about Indike and Khn and how crucial
they were, you see it here on the ground level.

(14:08):
Jeffrey Epstein manipulated the situation so that these guys in
Dike and Cohn were the ones performing the investigation on Epstein,
his best friends. Basically, nah, no nepotism out over here.
There's no uh, you know, two level to playing field,
No two tier justice system. Give me a break. The

(14:32):
outcome was even more jaw dropping. In nineteen ninety five,
Hoffenberg was sentenced to twenty years in prison, a one
million dollar fine, and four one hundred and sixty three
million dollars in restitution, while Epstein he dodged all charges.
I wonder why, so this is the the in my
in my mind anyway, this is where Epstein was really

(14:55):
locked in as an informant, the way we talked about
Whitey Bulger. How So he was working with the government
and they were willing to look the other way. Same
thing with Epstein. Epstein was not punished in the crimes
at Towers financial Hoffenberg continues, Jeffrey Epstein's ability as a
master criminal got him out of the penalty box for

(15:16):
all of that. That's what happened continuously in his other
criminal charges as well, and we have seen a pattern
of that. Right, normal people don't get off on things
like this. Hell, normal people don't get off on anything.
But somehow Epstein, somehow found a way what could and
almost certainly should have been a lengthy prison stretch and

(15:38):
financial ruin was instead a mere footnote in Epstein's life story.
And as Howard cronnin and Robertson reveal. Hoffenberg believes the
pedophile may even have used the scheme to fund his
future crimes. Oh, I don't doubt that. I guarantee that
Epstein was not only stealing from the clients, but stealing
from Hoffenberg. This dude was using that money, setting up

(16:02):
offshore accounts, the whole fucking thing. Man, have no doubt
about that. Epstein didn't just escape justice, they right. Hoffenberg
claimed he moved on to new adventures. With millions in
his pocket. Epstein was able to fund his criminal enterprise
financial Trust Company and Jeffrey Epstein in company. Hoffenberg alleged

(16:23):
there was another I believe it was International Asset Collections.
He was able to fund it with the assets and
money from the Tower's financial crimes. And we all know
that should never happen. If you get caught up in
something like this, you should do time, you should be indicted,
you should have your assets seized. But none of that
ever happened for Epstein. None of it. And when we

(16:46):
go back and we look at stories like this, it
just shows you. It shines a spotlight on how egregious
it all was, how the government failed at every level
to stop this man. How many chances did they have
and how many times did they fail to stop them?
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

(17:06):
at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's b O
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