November 24, 2025 • 17 mins
The renewed release of information surrounding Jeffrey Epstein’s network has highlighted a striking shift among groups that previously positioned themselves as vocal crusaders against child exploitation and elite corruption. During the height of Epstein’s second arrest in 2019, many of the loudest online voices—particularly those aligned with the QAnon movement—used Epstein’s case as a rallying point, framing it as proof of a hidden global cabal and leveraging public outrage to fuel a sprawling conspiracy narrative. However, as real legal developments, survivor testimony, and documented links to high-profile individuals have resurfaced in recent months, those same factions have largely retreated from the discussion, offering little public support for transparency or accountability.
Critics argue that the earlier conflation of the Epstein case with sensationalized conspiracy content served to obscure legitimate evidence and undermine public focus at a critical moment, ultimately benefiting the powerful figures and institutions implicated in the scandal. Today, instead of calling for investigations or defending survivors, many former activists have shifted to skepticism about Epstein’s crimes or have echoed narratives minimizing Ghislaine Maxwell’s role. The contrast between their previous public posture and their current silence has raised questions about motives, credibility, and whether the distraction generated at the peak of the case was accidental or strategic.
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Critics argue that the earlier conflation of the Epstein case with sensationalized conspiracy content served to obscure legitimate evidence and undermine public focus at a critical moment, ultimately benefiting the powerful figures and institutions implicated in the scandal. Today, instead of calling for investigations or defending survivors, many former activists have shifted to skepticism about Epstein’s crimes or have echoed narratives minimizing Ghislaine Maxwell’s role. The contrast between their previous public posture and their current silence has raised questions about motives, credibility, and whether the distraction generated at the peak of the case was accidental or strategic.
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Infamous pro-Trump conspiracy theorists have been 'strangely muted' on the Epstein scandal - Alternet.org
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. As I'm sitting here going through the news,
I come across this AlterNet article, and honestly, the longer
I think about it, the more infuriating it becomes, because
it's not lost on me, not even for a second,
that the loudest warriors of the soul called Cabal Crusade,
(00:21):
the same people who spent years beating their chests screaming
about kids being preyed upon and claiming that they were
the last line of defense against some shadowy global elite,
have suddenly gone dead silent now that Jeffrey Epstein is
back in the headlines and the truth is spilling out
in real time, and that silence is deafening. It's cowardly,
(00:41):
and it proves what I've been saying for years. A
lot of these loudmouse never cared about survivors, never cared
about the truth, never cared about justice. They cared about attention, clicks,
manufactured outrage and the adrenaline Russia, pretending that they were
a part of some heroic underground mission. Because now that
the villains are being exposed for real, these same self
(01:04):
appointed patriots are nowhere to be found. Their voices evaporated
the second the truth stopped being a fantasy and started
being uncomfortable reality. And the wildest part is that the
Epstein case was the real deal all along. Not a larp,
not a comic book, not anonymous riddles on a message
board or some Morse code scavenger hunt. This was a
(01:24):
real conspiracy, with real bodies, real victims, real institutions protecting
a real network of powerful predators. And what did those
truth warriors do with it? They hijacked it. They turned
it in debate. They used Epstein like a marketing strategy
to funnel people into their most absurd hallucination ever constructed QAnon.
They took an actual criminal enterprise, a real cabal operating
(01:48):
in plain sight, and they smothered it in fantasy and
numerology and Bible coded TikTok nonsense until the public couldn't
tell where reality ended and the circus began. And now
that their receipts are finally hitting the table, now that
the subpoenas are being dodged, now that names are being
dragged into the light, Suddenly, all that rage, all that conviction,
(02:08):
and all that fake soldier energy just disappears like smoke.
Funny how that works, right, Because if everything they claimed
to stand for was genuine, if they truly cared about
abused children and exposing corruption, then this should be their
super Bowl, This should be their Ewojima, This should be
the moment they set themselves on fire, demanding accountability. But
(02:28):
instead they're bending over backwards to defend Glayn Maxwell. They're
calling Epstein's network a hoax. They're rewriting their own history
like we all have amnesia. They went from where fighting
the cabal to well, maybe the cabal is misunderstood overnight,
and the whiplash is so violent it's practically a parody.
All those tough guy slogans, all those locker up chants,
(02:50):
all the macho freedom fighter cosplay. It melted the moment
the truth got too close to home, because the second
the mass slipped and the real players were revealed, they
didn't stand and fight. They ran. They hid. They changed
the subject and try and tell me it's an accident.
Tell me it's just a coincidence that at the exact
moment Epstein was arrested the second time, and the public
(03:12):
was seconds away from paying attention. The whole thing was
swallowed up by a sy op that turned the legitimate
outrage into a cartoonish insanity. It wasn't a coincidence, it
was a strategy. It was by design, because nothing protects
the guilty better than chaos, and nothing creates chaos quite
like WEAPONI stupidity. The truth got buried under a mountain
(03:32):
of absurd riddles and superhero fantasies. And while everyone was
being distracted by coded messages and red string on corkboards,
the real criminals were shaking hands, deleting evidence, cutting deals,
lawyer shopping, and laughing all the way to the bank.
And now we're here watching the reveal in real time
where a real cabal has been exposed, and instead of
(03:53):
being outraged, these people are defending it. They're carrying water
for billionaires and predators. They're sneering at survive, they're attacking
anyone who demands transparency. They've become the exact machine they
claim they were fighting. They were never about truth, they
were never about the kids. They were props in somebody
else's operation. And when the spotlight moved, so did they.
(04:14):
And I don't trust a damn one of them. So
let's make something perfectly clear. If you screamed about the
cabal for five years, if you branded yourself a savior
of traffic children, if you build a platform on moral outrage,
but now you're silent or worse defending the people tied
to Epstein, then you were not confused. You're not misguided,
you're not misinformed. You're complicit, and we see you. This
(04:37):
article was published by Alternate and the headline infamous pro
Trump conspiracy theorists have been strangely muted on the Epstein scandal.
This article was authored by Leslie A. Bravnel. Will Summer,
author of Trust the Plan, The Rise of qaan On,
and the Conspiracy that Unhinged America, writes in The New
York Times that although the recent revelations around to seize
(04:59):
Jeffrey Epstein should have been a dream for conspiracy theorists,
their reactions have been strangely muted and dismayed. Well, yeah,
because it blows all their bullshit out of the water,
all their little, fake, little conspiracy theories that they were
running around yapping about based on emails. By the way,
is actually happening in real time when it comes to
exposing Epstein. And where are they were all those q Anon,
(05:21):
people that made a name for themselves, a life for themselves,
a bunch of money for themselves, piggybacking off of what
was going on with Epstein, like it was part of
their bigger conversation, Like they really cared. While they were
talking about Tom Hanks drinking adrenochrome on an island, we
were busy trying to get to the bottom of what
the fuck Jeffrey Epstein was up to. QAnon, a far
(05:45):
right American political conspiracy theory and movement that claims a
cabal in the Deep State is operating a global child
sex trafficking ring and that President Donald Trump is secretly
fighting them, has been placed, Summer says, in an awkward
position by Trump's relentless resistance to releasing the Epstein files. Look,
there is no middle ground. Trump is not some grand lord.
(06:07):
He didn't get shot down from Mount Olympus, where everybody
has to listen to everything he says. You're allowed to disagree,
you're allowed to dissent, and if you don't, especially when
it comes to this, I'm sorry, but you're nothing more
than a boot liquor. You're everything that you said you hated.
You're everything that you said you were fighting against. What
was harder to explain for many believers was why mister
(06:30):
Trump spent so long resisting the release of key evidence
that would confirm what they suspected was happening all along.
Summer says, well, we all know he's embarrassed by the emails.
He's embarrassed by his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, and if
there's more in there, well I'm sure he's going to
be embarrassed by that as well. So that's why he
(06:50):
hasn't released it. He's not some grand fighter fighting against
the cabal behind the scenes. That's so stupid. How could
adults believe that? He says that. While they're some celebrants
of the Epstein developments, much of QAnon's response to Washington's
Epstein excitement has been strangely muted, even dismayed. And I
think that's true too. A lot of these people are
(07:10):
having their worldview severely challenged. You had all these people
out here telling you that you know, there was going
to be all these arrests, the storms coming where we
go one wee go all Come on, man, really, none
of that stuff is true. No one's coming to save you.
There is nobody behind the scenes. No wizard, no white hats,
none of the other bullshit they talked about is true.
(07:32):
You know who's gonna stop these people? You that's who
all of us together, That's the only way. And these
disgusting fuck bags know it. That's why they keep us fighting,
keep us arguing, and keep throwing shit like q ANN
into the mix. And as Congress near unanimously voted to
release the Epstein files last week, the conspiracy theorists in
the group may have already moved on Summer notes. Well,
(07:55):
I bet they did. It's not the conspiracy they were
looking for, right. They had this idea in their brain
and the idea has been wrong. And the truth is
the people that have put that in their brain, or
these influencers who became big during QAAN on you know
the ones I'm talking about. They're all over the place
out here spreading their bullshit like they know what they're
talking about. It's all about engagement, it's all about clicks,
(08:18):
it's all about driving rage. It's never about having legitimate
answers or at least trying to figure things out. It's
always about tomorrow. Tomorrow. The storm's coming tomorrow. We're going
to out the cabal tomorrow. Remember when all they talked
about was the World Economic Forum, that was the big
talking point. You hardly hear any of these people talking
about that now, right, But with the revelations about mister
(08:41):
Trump's relationship to mister Epstein, mounting the default qan on
position has become that mister Epstein just isn't that interesting anymore.
He writes. That's partly because QA non believers no longer
stand out so brightly in the conspiracy minded Republican mainstream. Well,
I don't know about that. I think that when you
started painting people with one large brush and say the
(09:02):
Republican mainstream, what does that mean. I know a lot
of people that would be considered Republicans or you know, conservatives,
not Mago, but Republicans who never believe q A non bullshit.
That's for people who were looking for something to fill
the void, right, people who don't want to face the
facts that the real evil is coming from the institutions themselves,
(09:24):
so they have to find a boogeyman. But I've been
telling you folks for a very long time that the
real boogeyman are in the financial sector. That's where the
real boogeymen are the people that are making our lives
difficult on a regular basis. The people that are charging
you thirty five percent in APR rate, the people that
are charging you fifteen percent for your car, that kind
(09:44):
of shit. Those people are the real boogeyman. There's never
been some monster that popped up under my bed, but
I sure the fuck have gotten a terrible loan before
Summer explains that the truth doesn't exactly match the q
A non grant fantasies of elite exposure that QA non
dreamed up at its height. But for q ANN, the
(10:05):
real problem with the Epstein revelations is that mister Trump
sits uncomfortably close to the center of them. Bingo. So
I said from the beginning not to have heroes, none
of these politicians or heroes. You better pick your heroes wisely, folks,
And I truly mean that, because a lot of these
people out here that are running around with this mask on,
(10:25):
acting like they're great people, acting like they care about
all of us, they're monsters, straight up monsters, And that
includes Drum. This is a man who has never cared
about anybody in his life but himself. Q A non
members took to social media after the vote to release
the files, including John Harold, who wrote, all the awful
(10:46):
things that people are saying. I hope it's not true,
mister Harold said, I don't want to see any of it. Well,
isn't that too bad, mister Harold. Shouldn't you be talking
about aliens giving people butt plugs in Albuquerque or whatever
the fuck you idiots are talking talking about now? And
if you're not able to tell I've reached the end
of my rope with all these people, enough is enough.
(11:07):
Either get on board or get the fuck out of
the way. I have no time for it anymore. We're
way too busy and we have way too much going
on for idiots like this, who claim to be down
for the cause, who claim to be, you know, fighting
for children, to be running interference. Given that the conspiracy
theory doubles as a cult of personality built around mister Trump,
this sort of reaction isn't particularly surprising, but the new
(11:30):
emails do suggest the conspiracy theorists we're right about mister
Epstein's significance, albeit not in the ways that they thought.
Summer says, well, I've been warning you for all these years,
not to follow the most salacious bullshit. I've told you
that from the jump. For me, it's always the things
that I want to believe the most that i'm the
most critical of. That's how my process works. So say
(11:53):
I want to believe that somebody is involved with Epstein
because I hate them, Well, I'm going to be critical
of that because I want to make sure that we
have the facts right as close to the facts as
we can get. I feel like you deserve that, and frankly,
I don't have time to fuck around, and I know
you don't either. Enough is enough already. While mister Epstein
(12:13):
was mentioned relatively rarely in qaann before his twenty nineteen indictment,
his mysterious death propelled QA non recruitment and provided endless
allys for its amateur Internet sleuths to explore summer ads.
And there's no doubt about it. There was a whole
lot of noise from the very beginning. And I've been
saying the same thing basically from the very beginning. These
(12:34):
people are running interference, whether they know it or not,
and it's causing a lot of regular folks to tune
out of what was going on with Epstein because they
lumped it all together. They were like, Oh, that's just
crazy people talking about that. There's no cabal, there's no rich,
powerful people hanging out and doing dastardly things. Well breaking news.
That part was true, and that's why the people that
(12:56):
were engaged in that launched the QA andn ssyop. Thanks
for coming to my ted talk. Trump's long proven friendship
with Epstein, however, has always been difficult for QA and
on to explain Summer's notes. The traditional qann explanation for
the Paris closeness has been that mister Trump was getting
close to mister Epstein just to bring more publicity to
(13:16):
his crimes. He writes, Imagine believing that as an adult,
Imagine thinking that that shit's true. Oh yeah, Trump was
working as the serpuco of mar A Lago to bring
down Jeffrey Epstein. Really, that's what you're pitching me. That's
the kind of bullshit you think. I'm gonna believe. Here's
an idea. Miss me with all of it, because it's
all bullshit. But this explanation has begun to look shakier
(13:40):
has more emails about Trump and Epstein have emerged. Qann's
retreat from the Epstein story is striking because there remains
real questions about mister Epstein that can make for a
rich vein of new theorizing. Summer writes, Look, there's no
doubt I don't have all the answers, but I knew
from the jump that these cabal people that were talking
(14:00):
about wild, weird shit were there to throw me off
the scent. And that's why I never bit on it right.
That's why I never got engaged in that. I wasn't
falling for that bs. I knew that if we ever
had any chance whatsoever of getting to the bottom of
what Epstein was up to, we had to stay laser focused,
because in all the confusion, that's how these people get
(14:21):
away with it. For most QA non believers, the priority
is protecting mister Trump at all costs, even if it
means no longer asking questions, even if it means letting
the moment they finally got something right pass them by,
even if it means continuing to thirst for a storm
that will never come. He explains. And while one time
QA non believer representative Marjorie Taylor Green has moved away
(14:43):
from Trump duing part to the Epstein scandal, Summer says
that while miss Green claimed she was no longer a
victim of mediaize that letter to QA and No, she
still seems motivated by the hunt for information about sex
trafficking that QA non claim to pursue QA and Non,
Summer says, offered people and understanding of the world in
which mister Trump wasn't letting his voters down. He was
(15:04):
just fighting forces far more powerful and evil than they
could imagine. But things have changed, he writes. Now mister
Trump is once again bogged down in the first year
of a presidential term, this time by the Epstein investigation.
Prices arising, Trump supporters are growing restless, Summer says, do
you think Q has one more clue left in them? Oh,
(15:26):
there's no doubt. We haven't seen the last to Q.
But I'm here to tell you that those people that
were out there are pumping that shit and trying to
wrap it all together, they caused a lot of harm.
They slowed things down to a point where a lot
of people were able to get away with their bullshit.
And you know what, I'm done pretending that any of
this is complicated. It's not. It's actually insultingly simple. The
(15:48):
people who yelled the loudest about saving kids, about fighting evil,
about exposing the cabal. They folded. The minute the cabal
stopped being a fairy tale and turned into something real,
they vanished, They shut their mouths. They decided their team
and their politics mattered more than protecting kids. Nothing heroic
about that, nothing patriotic, nothing noble. And that's what makes
(16:09):
me sick. Not so much the elites. We already knew
who they were, We already knew what they were capable of. Predators, pray,
power corrupts. Nothing surprising there. What shocks me is how
many regular people chose the predators over the victims the
moment it got hard, the second the villains had familiar faces,
familiar jerseys, familiar party affiliations. Suddenly save the children became
(16:34):
shut up and move on. Suddenly justice was optional, Suddenly
the truth was inconvenient. And that's the stain that sticks
watching people who claim to care show their true colors
the minute the fog cleared. Turns out a lot of
these loudmouthed patriots weren't warriors. They were taurus. They liked
the costume, they liked the rush, they liked LARPing as
(16:54):
revolutionaries until there was actual work to do. Then they ran,
and honestly, good stay gone. We don't need costplay soldiers.
We don't need people who fold when pressure shows up.
We don't need cowards with slogans, because the fight is
still here whether they showed up or not, The truth
is still coming, whether they cheer for it or not,
(17:14):
and the reckoning is still happening whether they believe it
or not. They can lie, they can gaslight, they can
pretend that this isn't real, they can cry syop all day.
None of it changes what's coming and when it finally
blows open, and it will, not a single one of
those frauds gets to stand next to us and pretend
that they were here. They don't get to slap a
(17:35):
hashtag on it later and act like they fought, they forfeited,
that they chose silence, they chose comfort, they chose cowardice.
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What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. As I'm sitting here going through the news,
I come across this AlterNet article, and honestly, the longer
I think about it, the more infuriating it becomes, because
it's not lost on me, not even for a second,
that the loudest warriors of the soul called Cabal Crusade,
(00:21):
the same people who spent years beating their chests screaming
about kids being preyed upon and claiming that they were
the last line of defense against some shadowy global elite,
have suddenly gone dead silent now that Jeffrey Epstein is
back in the headlines and the truth is spilling out
in real time, and that silence is deafening. It's cowardly,
(00:41):
and it proves what I've been saying for years. A
lot of these loudmouse never cared about survivors, never cared
about the truth, never cared about justice. They cared about attention, clicks,
manufactured outrage and the adrenaline Russia, pretending that they were
a part of some heroic underground mission. Because now that
the villains are being exposed for real, these same self
(01:04):
appointed patriots are nowhere to be found. Their voices evaporated
the second the truth stopped being a fantasy and started
being uncomfortable reality. And the wildest part is that the
Epstein case was the real deal all along. Not a larp,
not a comic book, not anonymous riddles on a message
board or some Morse code scavenger hunt. This was a
(01:24):
real conspiracy, with real bodies, real victims, real institutions protecting
a real network of powerful predators. And what did those
truth warriors do with it? They hijacked it. They turned
it in debate. They used Epstein like a marketing strategy
to funnel people into their most absurd hallucination ever constructed QAnon.
They took an actual criminal enterprise, a real cabal operating
(01:48):
in plain sight, and they smothered it in fantasy and
numerology and Bible coded TikTok nonsense until the public couldn't
tell where reality ended and the circus began. And now
that their receipts are finally hitting the table, now that
the subpoenas are being dodged, now that names are being
dragged into the light, Suddenly, all that rage, all that conviction,
(02:08):
and all that fake soldier energy just disappears like smoke.
Funny how that works, right, Because if everything they claimed
to stand for was genuine, if they truly cared about
abused children and exposing corruption, then this should be their
super Bowl, This should be their Ewojima, This should be
the moment they set themselves on fire, demanding accountability. But
(02:28):
instead they're bending over backwards to defend Glayn Maxwell. They're
calling Epstein's network a hoax. They're rewriting their own history
like we all have amnesia. They went from where fighting
the cabal to well, maybe the cabal is misunderstood overnight,
and the whiplash is so violent it's practically a parody.
All those tough guy slogans, all those locker up chants,
(02:50):
all the macho freedom fighter cosplay. It melted the moment
the truth got too close to home, because the second
the mass slipped and the real players were revealed, they
didn't stand and fight. They ran. They hid. They changed
the subject and try and tell me it's an accident.
Tell me it's just a coincidence that at the exact
moment Epstein was arrested the second time, and the public
(03:12):
was seconds away from paying attention. The whole thing was
swallowed up by a sy op that turned the legitimate
outrage into a cartoonish insanity. It wasn't a coincidence, it
was a strategy. It was by design, because nothing protects
the guilty better than chaos, and nothing creates chaos quite
like WEAPONI stupidity. The truth got buried under a mountain
(03:32):
of absurd riddles and superhero fantasies. And while everyone was
being distracted by coded messages and red string on corkboards,
the real criminals were shaking hands, deleting evidence, cutting deals,
lawyer shopping, and laughing all the way to the bank.
And now we're here watching the reveal in real time
where a real cabal has been exposed, and instead of
(03:53):
being outraged, these people are defending it. They're carrying water
for billionaires and predators. They're sneering at survive, they're attacking
anyone who demands transparency. They've become the exact machine they
claim they were fighting. They were never about truth, they
were never about the kids. They were props in somebody
else's operation. And when the spotlight moved, so did they.
(04:14):
And I don't trust a damn one of them. So
let's make something perfectly clear. If you screamed about the
cabal for five years, if you branded yourself a savior
of traffic children, if you build a platform on moral outrage,
but now you're silent or worse defending the people tied
to Epstein, then you were not confused. You're not misguided,
you're not misinformed. You're complicit, and we see you. This
(04:37):
article was published by Alternate and the headline infamous pro
Trump conspiracy theorists have been strangely muted on the Epstein scandal.
This article was authored by Leslie A. Bravnel. Will Summer,
author of Trust the Plan, The Rise of qaan On,
and the Conspiracy that Unhinged America, writes in The New
York Times that although the recent revelations around to seize
(04:59):
Jeffrey Epstein should have been a dream for conspiracy theorists,
their reactions have been strangely muted and dismayed. Well, yeah,
because it blows all their bullshit out of the water,
all their little, fake, little conspiracy theories that they were
running around yapping about based on emails. By the way,
is actually happening in real time when it comes to
exposing Epstein. And where are they were all those q Anon,
(05:21):
people that made a name for themselves, a life for themselves,
a bunch of money for themselves, piggybacking off of what
was going on with Epstein, like it was part of
their bigger conversation, Like they really cared. While they were
talking about Tom Hanks drinking adrenochrome on an island, we
were busy trying to get to the bottom of what
the fuck Jeffrey Epstein was up to. QAnon, a far
(05:45):
right American political conspiracy theory and movement that claims a
cabal in the Deep State is operating a global child
sex trafficking ring and that President Donald Trump is secretly
fighting them, has been placed, Summer says, in an awkward
position by Trump's relentless resistance to releasing the Epstein files. Look,
there is no middle ground. Trump is not some grand lord.
(06:07):
He didn't get shot down from Mount Olympus, where everybody
has to listen to everything he says. You're allowed to disagree,
you're allowed to dissent, and if you don't, especially when
it comes to this, I'm sorry, but you're nothing more
than a boot liquor. You're everything that you said you hated.
You're everything that you said you were fighting against. What
was harder to explain for many believers was why mister
(06:30):
Trump spent so long resisting the release of key evidence
that would confirm what they suspected was happening all along.
Summer says, well, we all know he's embarrassed by the emails.
He's embarrassed by his ties to Jeffrey Epstein, and if
there's more in there, well I'm sure he's going to
be embarrassed by that as well. So that's why he
(06:50):
hasn't released it. He's not some grand fighter fighting against
the cabal behind the scenes. That's so stupid. How could
adults believe that? He says that. While they're some celebrants
of the Epstein developments, much of QAnon's response to Washington's
Epstein excitement has been strangely muted, even dismayed. And I
think that's true too. A lot of these people are
(07:10):
having their worldview severely challenged. You had all these people
out here telling you that you know, there was going
to be all these arrests, the storms coming where we
go one wee go all Come on, man, really, none
of that stuff is true. No one's coming to save you.
There is nobody behind the scenes. No wizard, no white hats,
none of the other bullshit they talked about is true.
(07:32):
You know who's gonna stop these people? You that's who
all of us together, That's the only way. And these
disgusting fuck bags know it. That's why they keep us fighting,
keep us arguing, and keep throwing shit like q ANN
into the mix. And as Congress near unanimously voted to
release the Epstein files last week, the conspiracy theorists in
the group may have already moved on Summer notes. Well,
(07:55):
I bet they did. It's not the conspiracy they were
looking for, right. They had this idea in their brain
and the idea has been wrong. And the truth is
the people that have put that in their brain, or
these influencers who became big during QAAN on you know
the ones I'm talking about. They're all over the place
out here spreading their bullshit like they know what they're
talking about. It's all about engagement, it's all about clicks,
(08:18):
it's all about driving rage. It's never about having legitimate
answers or at least trying to figure things out. It's
always about tomorrow. Tomorrow. The storm's coming tomorrow. We're going
to out the cabal tomorrow. Remember when all they talked
about was the World Economic Forum, that was the big
talking point. You hardly hear any of these people talking
about that now, right, But with the revelations about mister
(08:41):
Trump's relationship to mister Epstein, mounting the default qan on
position has become that mister Epstein just isn't that interesting anymore.
He writes. That's partly because QA non believers no longer
stand out so brightly in the conspiracy minded Republican mainstream. Well,
I don't know about that. I think that when you
started painting people with one large brush and say the
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Republican mainstream, what does that mean. I know a lot
of people that would be considered Republicans or you know, conservatives,
not Mago, but Republicans who never believe q A non bullshit.
That's for people who were looking for something to fill
the void, right, people who don't want to face the
facts that the real evil is coming from the institutions themselves,
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so they have to find a boogeyman. But I've been
telling you folks for a very long time that the
real boogeyman are in the financial sector. That's where the
real boogeymen are the people that are making our lives
difficult on a regular basis. The people that are charging
you thirty five percent in APR rate, the people that
are charging you fifteen percent for your car, that kind
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of shit. Those people are the real boogeyman. There's never
been some monster that popped up under my bed, but
I sure the fuck have gotten a terrible loan before
Summer explains that the truth doesn't exactly match the q
A non grant fantasies of elite exposure that QA non
dreamed up at its height. But for q ANN, the
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real problem with the Epstein revelations is that mister Trump
sits uncomfortably close to the center of them. Bingo. So
I said from the beginning not to have heroes, none
of these politicians or heroes. You better pick your heroes wisely, folks,
And I truly mean that, because a lot of these
people out here that are running around with this mask on,
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acting like they're great people, acting like they care about
all of us, they're monsters, straight up monsters, And that
includes Drum. This is a man who has never cared
about anybody in his life but himself. Q A non
members took to social media after the vote to release
the files, including John Harold, who wrote, all the awful
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things that people are saying. I hope it's not true,
mister Harold said, I don't want to see any of it. Well,
isn't that too bad, mister Harold. Shouldn't you be talking
about aliens giving people butt plugs in Albuquerque or whatever
the fuck you idiots are talking talking about now? And
if you're not able to tell I've reached the end
of my rope with all these people, enough is enough.
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Either get on board or get the fuck out of
the way. I have no time for it anymore. We're
way too busy and we have way too much going
on for idiots like this, who claim to be down
for the cause, who claim to be, you know, fighting
for children, to be running interference. Given that the conspiracy
theory doubles as a cult of personality built around mister Trump,
this sort of reaction isn't particularly surprising, but the new
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emails do suggest the conspiracy theorists we're right about mister
Epstein's significance, albeit not in the ways that they thought.
Summer says, well, I've been warning you for all these years,
not to follow the most salacious bullshit. I've told you
that from the jump. For me, it's always the things
that I want to believe the most that i'm the
most critical of. That's how my process works. So say
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I want to believe that somebody is involved with Epstein
because I hate them, Well, I'm going to be critical
of that because I want to make sure that we
have the facts right as close to the facts as
we can get. I feel like you deserve that, and frankly,
I don't have time to fuck around, and I know
you don't either. Enough is enough already. While mister Epstein
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was mentioned relatively rarely in qaann before his twenty nineteen indictment,
his mysterious death propelled QA non recruitment and provided endless
allys for its amateur Internet sleuths to explore summer ads.
And there's no doubt about it. There was a whole
lot of noise from the very beginning. And I've been
saying the same thing basically from the very beginning. These
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people are running interference, whether they know it or not,
and it's causing a lot of regular folks to tune
out of what was going on with Epstein because they
lumped it all together. They were like, Oh, that's just
crazy people talking about that. There's no cabal, there's no rich,
powerful people hanging out and doing dastardly things. Well breaking news.
That part was true, and that's why the people that
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were engaged in that launched the QA andn ssyop. Thanks
for coming to my ted talk. Trump's long proven friendship
with Epstein, however, has always been difficult for QA and
on to explain Summer's notes. The traditional qann explanation for
the Paris closeness has been that mister Trump was getting
close to mister Epstein just to bring more publicity to
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his crimes. He writes, Imagine believing that as an adult,
Imagine thinking that that shit's true. Oh yeah, Trump was
working as the serpuco of mar A Lago to bring
down Jeffrey Epstein. Really, that's what you're pitching me. That's
the kind of bullshit you think. I'm gonna believe. Here's
an idea. Miss me with all of it, because it's
all bullshit. But this explanation has begun to look shakier
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has more emails about Trump and Epstein have emerged. Qann's
retreat from the Epstein story is striking because there remains
real questions about mister Epstein that can make for a
rich vein of new theorizing. Summer writes, Look, there's no
doubt I don't have all the answers, but I knew
from the jump that these cabal people that were talking
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about wild, weird shit were there to throw me off
the scent. And that's why I never bit on it right.
That's why I never got engaged in that. I wasn't
falling for that bs. I knew that if we ever
had any chance whatsoever of getting to the bottom of
what Epstein was up to, we had to stay laser focused,
because in all the confusion, that's how these people get
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away with it. For most QA non believers, the priority
is protecting mister Trump at all costs, even if it
means no longer asking questions, even if it means letting
the moment they finally got something right pass them by,
even if it means continuing to thirst for a storm
that will never come. He explains. And while one time
QA non believer representative Marjorie Taylor Green has moved away
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from Trump duing part to the Epstein scandal, Summer says
that while miss Green claimed she was no longer a
victim of mediaize that letter to QA and No, she
still seems motivated by the hunt for information about sex
trafficking that QA non claim to pursue QA and Non,
Summer says, offered people and understanding of the world in
which mister Trump wasn't letting his voters down. He was
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just fighting forces far more powerful and evil than they
could imagine. But things have changed, he writes. Now mister
Trump is once again bogged down in the first year
of a presidential term, this time by the Epstein investigation.
Prices arising, Trump supporters are growing restless, Summer says, do
you think Q has one more clue left in them? Oh,
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there's no doubt. We haven't seen the last to Q.
But I'm here to tell you that those people that
were out there are pumping that shit and trying to
wrap it all together, they caused a lot of harm.
They slowed things down to a point where a lot
of people were able to get away with their bullshit.
And you know what, I'm done pretending that any of
this is complicated. It's not. It's actually insultingly simple. The
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people who yelled the loudest about saving kids, about fighting evil,
about exposing the cabal. They folded. The minute the cabal
stopped being a fairy tale and turned into something real,
they vanished, They shut their mouths. They decided their team
and their politics mattered more than protecting kids. Nothing heroic
about that, nothing patriotic, nothing noble. And that's what makes
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me sick. Not so much the elites. We already knew
who they were, We already knew what they were capable of. Predators, pray,
power corrupts. Nothing surprising there. What shocks me is how
many regular people chose the predators over the victims the
moment it got hard, the second the villains had familiar faces,
familiar jerseys, familiar party affiliations. Suddenly save the children became
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shut up and move on. Suddenly justice was optional, Suddenly
the truth was inconvenient. And that's the stain that sticks
watching people who claim to care show their true colors
the minute the fog cleared. Turns out a lot of
these loudmouthed patriots weren't warriors. They were taurus. They liked
the costume, they liked the rush, they liked LARPing as
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revolutionaries until there was actual work to do. Then they ran,
and honestly, good stay gone. We don't need costplay soldiers.
We don't need people who fold when pressure shows up.
We don't need cowards with slogans, because the fight is
still here whether they showed up or not, The truth
is still coming, whether they cheer for it or not,
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and the reckoning is still happening whether they believe it
or not. They can lie, they can gaslight, they can
pretend that this isn't real, they can cry syop all day.
None of it changes what's coming and when it finally
blows open, and it will, not a single one of
those frauds gets to stand next to us and pretend
that they were here. They don't get to slap a
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hashtag on it later and act like they fought, they forfeited,
that they chose silence, they chose comfort, they chose cowardice.
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