November 24, 2025 • 12 mins
In November 2025, newly released documents from the estate of Jeffrey Epstein revealed that Stacey Plaskett (D-U.S. Virgin Islands) exchanged messages with Epstein during a February 2019 congressional hearing involving Michael Cohen. The texts showed Epstein offering advice on questioning strategy (including prompting “RONA – keeper of the secrets,” a reference to Trump executive assistant Rhona Graff) and congratulating Plaskett’s questioning with “Good work.” Plaskett’s office acknowledged Epstein as a constituent (he owned islands in the territory) but denied that he was directing her actions. A GOP-led motion to censure Plaskett and strip her from the House Intelligence Committee failed by a narrow margin.
During the floor debate on the resolution, Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) defended Plaskett by saying Republicans were effectively “arraigning a Democratic member for taking a phone call from her constituent, Jeffrey Epstein” during a hearing. He argued there was no specific House rule forbidding such contact and that the resolution was premature—“you don’t get answers by rushing to judgment and turning the whole process upside-down,” he said. Raskin thus framed Plaskett’s interaction as part of her representative role rather than evidence of wrongdoing.
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During the floor debate on the resolution, Jamie Raskin (D-Md.) defended Plaskett by saying Republicans were effectively “arraigning a Democratic member for taking a phone call from her constituent, Jeffrey Epstein” during a hearing. He argued there was no specific House rule forbidding such contact and that the resolution was premature—“you don’t get answers by rushing to judgment and turning the whole process upside-down,” he said. Raskin thus framed Plaskett’s interaction as part of her representative role rather than evidence of wrongdoing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. So recently, Jamie Raskin got up there and
talked to us like we were idiots about Stacy Plaskett,
and honestly, it made my skin crawl. He looked into
the camera like he was explaining how to use a
microwave instead of addressing something very very serious, something that
should never be minimized. He tried to tell everyone that
(00:23):
Stacy Plasket texting Jeffrey Epstein during a congressional hearing was
no big deal, like we were supposed to hear that
and just nod politely. Bro really expected people to accept
that explanation and move on like nothing happened. I sat
there thinking, you have got to be kidding me, because
any normal person would react the same way. I felt
like he genuinely believed nobody watching had a functioning brain.
(00:46):
It felt like he could say whatever he wanted and
we just swallow it without question. He didn't even hesitate.
He acted like the matter was settled before anyone could respond.
The confidence in his tone made it even more insulting,
like he felt untouchable. I couldn't believe the nerveyads standing
there acting like the whole country was overreacting. That's the
(01:06):
kind of attitude that makes people stop listening completely. That's
how you lose any respect people might have had left.
And the worst part is he seemed comfortable doing it,
like this is just standard procedure. The whole moment felt
gross and disconnected from reality, and it left a bad
taste in my mouth. He spoke with that soft, calming
voice politicians put on when they try to make you
(01:28):
feel like you're being unreasonable, Like the tone alone was
supposed to settle the argument. He acted like he was
soothing a crowd instead of answering for something that should
have never happened in the first place, something that should
have been confronted directly. He smiled through it, which was
almost the most uncomfortable part, like it was just some
misunderstanding he was gently helping us through. There was nothing
(01:51):
uncertain about what happened, and oh confusion about what it
might have meant. A congress woman was taking instruction from
Jeffrey Epstein. That's not a rumor or a theory. That's
what occurred, plain and clear. That's the whole story before
any spin gets applied, And there's no way to dress
it up without lying, and he acted like we're the
ones in the wrong for noticing, like we should not
(02:13):
be paying attention. The tone told the real story. He
thinks the public should shut up and listen, not question
him on anything. He really tried to downplay something any
normal person would immediately recognize as insane and unacceptable. He
acted like Epstein was just some random guy she accidentally texted,
instead of the most infamous sex trafficker the country has
(02:35):
ever dealt with. He pretended repeating Epstein's wording word for
word into the congressional record was just an odd coincidence,
as if that explanation is even remotely believable. Nobody believes
that kind of excuse, and he knows nobody believes it.
Nobody with eyes and ears is confused about how serious
that is. And the fact that he couldn't admit it
(02:55):
was a problem says everything about what side he stands
on when things get on calm stable. It showed what
matters to him more than anything he says in speeches.
It feels like he'd rather protect his circle and his
party than tell the truth to the country, And in
that moment, everything he pretends to stand for fell apart.
Watching his face as he spoke was honestly unbearable because
(03:18):
everything about it it's screamed arrogance. That little smirk, like
he thought he was clever, like he thought he was
playing some winning hand, that fake calm confidence at politicians
practice and mirrors for moments exactly like this. He looked
like he really believed he was pulling one over on everyone,
like he assumed nobody would say anything back, like he
thought the whole country was too dumb to notice what
(03:40):
he was doing. And the worst part is he looked
proud of the performance, proud of pushing something he knows
his garbage, proud of defending something he'd destroy anyone else
for doing. It was hard to watch because you could
see the disconnect in real time, and look, the hypocrisy
is impossible to ignore because it's so obvious and so loud.
This man has spent years, years shouting about accountability and
(04:02):
corruption and fairness, like he's allowed his voice fighting for justice.
He's made speeches about transparency like he's the one person
in Washington who actually means what he says. He loves
the spotlight when it's aimed at someone on the other
side and loves to play the role of moral referee.
He gets worked up and emotional and demands consequences and
says everything should be investigated thoroughly. But now when it's
(04:25):
someone standing right beside him, suddenly he wants people to
calm down. Suddenly it's not a big deal anymore. Suddenly
he's allergic to the standard he expects everyone else to meet,
and the double standard is so obvious that it's embarrassing
to witness. If a Republican had taken instruction from Epstein
during a hearing, Raskin would have turned it into a
national scandal. Before lunchtime. He'd be on every news channel
(04:49):
yelling as loudly as possible and demanding accountability. He'd be
calling for resignations and formal inquiries and emergency meetings. He
would say it proves every point he's ever made about
up and danger and power imbalance. He would not shut
up about it for weeks. But this time he just
shrugs because it involves someone close to him and he
(05:09):
doesn't want to deal with the fallout. My friends, that's
not leadership, and it's sure as hell is an integrity.
He acted like the public should feel weird for being angry,
like the problem wasn't what happened, but the reaction to it.
That kind of thinking is insulting because it tries to
flip reality upside down. This man is talking down to
(05:29):
people like their children, telling them that their reaction shouldn't exist.
And that kind of attitude doesn't change minds. It just
makes everything worse and makes people more angry. You don't
get to dismiss something serious and blame the country for caring.
That's not how respect works. Nobody appreciates being told they're
wrong for paying attention. And yeah, I thought about the
(05:50):
survivors while he was saying all of this, because how
could you not People who have lived with the trauma
for decades and struggled to be heard, people ignored and
doubted and pushed aside for years. People who watched Epstein
walk around freely while their lives fell apart, and then
they watch a congressman defend someone one of his colleagues
taking instruction from Epstein like it means nothing. Can you
(06:12):
imagine what that feels like in real time? Here and
someone treats something so serious like it's inconvenience, it's cruel,
it's heartless, and nobody with compassion would have spoken the
way he spoke. Look, nobody's pretending that this means Plasket's
about to go to prison tomorrow, and nobody's acting like
there are charges ready to file. That's not the point,
and it never was. The point is that saying it's
(06:34):
no big deal is completely insane and completely unacceptable. It
should matter, It does matter, It should be talked about honestly,
it should have real consequences, and brushing it off like
spilled coffee is not something any responsible adult would do,
let alone someone in Congress. He could have handled it
in the simplest way possible without causing chaos. He could
(06:55):
have said, yeah, it was wrong, and we need to
figure out what happened and to address it complicated, it's
not dramatic. That's basic decency and basic responsibility. But he
didn't do any of that. He chose to act smug
and superior. Instead, he chose to defend something that clearly
shouldn't be defended. He chose the easy lie instead of
the hard truth, and that tells us everything we need
(07:17):
to know. And you could tell that he was more
concerned about protecting his side than telling the truth. It
was obvious at every expression and every sentence and every
hesitation he wasn't thinking about the country or their survivors,
or the integrity of Congress. He was thinking about optics
and the Democratic Party and saving face and keeping the
team image clean. It's disgusting to watch someone pretend they're
(07:39):
doing something righteous when they're really covering for a friend.
It's insulting to anyone paying attention and anyone trying to
take this seriously. The look he gave when people push
back said everything without needing words. He looked annoyed that
anyone dared question him, Like how dare the public not
just accept what he says? Like his word should be
enough and we shouldn't want anything more. That's the kind
(08:01):
of attitude that drives people away from politics entirely. You
can't talk to people like that and expect them to
trust you. Ever, again, trust doesn't work that way. Look,
this isn't that complicated. A congresswoman should not take instruction
from Jeffrey Epstein under any circumstance. End of story, no
gray area, no political spin, no excuses about timing or
(08:22):
context or misunderstanding. It's wrong, plain wrong, and pretending it
isn't is a choice, not an accident. And what's so
crazy is that he wasted a chance to do something
decent and honest. He wasted a chance to show he
actually believes any of the things he likes to say
in his speeches. He wasted a chance to prove he's
not just another empty suit reading prepared lines, and instead
(08:45):
he showed the exact opposite. He showed that he's only
interested in accountability when it benefits him and his party.
And that's pathetic from someone who claims to be different.
Everybody watching saw exactly what he was doing, and nobody
was fooled. There was no clever about it and nothing
strategic about it. It was obvious and sloppy and weak.
(09:05):
Just another politician trying to dodge responsibility, just another person
hoping the public will forget if they say the riot
words slowly enough, and he thought nobody would notice how
hollow it all sounded. Look, people are tired. People are
sick of being spoken to like they're stupid. People are
sick of watching politicians pretend problems don't exist when they
clearly do. People want honesty, People want accountability that doesn't
(09:29):
depend on party loyalty. People want someone in power to
act like a real adult once in a while, and
we're surely not getting it from him. It becomes harder
every day to trust any of these people when they
behave like this. They all talk like heroes and act
like they're fighting for everyone, But the second something real
is at their door, everything changes and they fold. They
talk down to the public, they brush off obvious wrongdoing.
(09:52):
They act like consequences or for other people. These people
think they're untouchable, and that's the real issue. They think
speeches fit everything in tone changes reality. They think nobody
sees through them. They think all they have to do
is say a few polished lines and everyone calms down.
It's insulting, it's embarrassing, and that shit got old fast.
(10:13):
And look, at some point, disappointment stops being shocked and
becomes expectation. They show you who they are every time
they protect their own and lie to everyone else. They
show you every time they choose convenience over truth. They
show you every time they talk like the public doesn't matter,
and they do it willingly and consistently. Nothing changes until
people like that step out of the way. Because if
(10:35):
you can't say something is wrong, when it clearly is
you don't belong anywhere in your power. It's not complicated.
You defend garbage behavior. You're part of the garbage, and
people see it whether you like it or not. And
at the end of the day, Jamie Raskin showed everyone
exactly who he is. He's not some fearless truth teller.
He's not some brave defender of justice. He's just another
(10:56):
politician who folds the second the problem lands on his
own doorstep. He opened his mouth and proved he'll throw
every value he claims to believe straight into the trash
if it means protecting his own party. And he thought
nobody would notice. He thought he could smooth talk his
way through it and walk clean away. He thought the
public would sit quietly and take it because he's used
(11:16):
to people treating him like he's smarter than everyone else
in the room. If Raskin can't say something is wrong
when everyone with a functioning brain can see it's wrong,
then he doesn't belong anywhere near a microphone, let alone
a congressional seat. If he can't look at his own
side in the eye and demand consequences the same way
he demands them from everyone else then he's not fighting
(11:37):
for justice. He's fighting for his career. And if he
really thinks people are going to sit there and swallow
that weak performance, he's already lost the room. This isn't complicated.
You either stand for the truth all the time or
you don't stand for it at all, and Raskin showed
which side he's on. He can save the speeches, he
can save the moral grandstanding, he can save the bullshit
(11:57):
tone about unity and accountability transparency, because after this, nobody
buys it. So if Jamie Raskin wants to talk about
accountability ever again, he better start by looking in the
mirror and cleaning up his own house first, because nobody
is taking lectures from a guy who can't tell the
truth when it matters. Not anymore. He lost the right
to act like someone's moral compass the second he tried
(12:19):
to gaslight the entire country over something this obvious. If
he wants respect back, he can earn it the same
way everyone else has to, by owning his bullshit and
fixing it instead of pretending nothing happened. Until then, he's
just another politician hiding behind a microphone, and people are
done bowing to that all of the information that goes
(12:40):
with this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. So recently, Jamie Raskin got up there and
talked to us like we were idiots about Stacy Plaskett,
and honestly, it made my skin crawl. He looked into
the camera like he was explaining how to use a
microwave instead of addressing something very very serious, something that
should never be minimized. He tried to tell everyone that
(00:23):
Stacy Plasket texting Jeffrey Epstein during a congressional hearing was
no big deal, like we were supposed to hear that
and just nod politely. Bro really expected people to accept
that explanation and move on like nothing happened. I sat
there thinking, you have got to be kidding me, because
any normal person would react the same way. I felt
like he genuinely believed nobody watching had a functioning brain.
(00:46):
It felt like he could say whatever he wanted and
we just swallow it without question. He didn't even hesitate.
He acted like the matter was settled before anyone could respond.
The confidence in his tone made it even more insulting,
like he felt untouchable. I couldn't believe the nerveyads standing
there acting like the whole country was overreacting. That's the
(01:06):
kind of attitude that makes people stop listening completely. That's
how you lose any respect people might have had left.
And the worst part is he seemed comfortable doing it,
like this is just standard procedure. The whole moment felt
gross and disconnected from reality, and it left a bad
taste in my mouth. He spoke with that soft, calming
voice politicians put on when they try to make you
(01:28):
feel like you're being unreasonable, Like the tone alone was
supposed to settle the argument. He acted like he was
soothing a crowd instead of answering for something that should
have never happened in the first place, something that should
have been confronted directly. He smiled through it, which was
almost the most uncomfortable part, like it was just some
misunderstanding he was gently helping us through. There was nothing
(01:51):
uncertain about what happened, and oh confusion about what it
might have meant. A congress woman was taking instruction from
Jeffrey Epstein. That's not a rumor or a theory. That's
what occurred, plain and clear. That's the whole story before
any spin gets applied, And there's no way to dress
it up without lying, and he acted like we're the
ones in the wrong for noticing, like we should not
(02:13):
be paying attention. The tone told the real story. He
thinks the public should shut up and listen, not question
him on anything. He really tried to downplay something any
normal person would immediately recognize as insane and unacceptable. He
acted like Epstein was just some random guy she accidentally texted,
instead of the most infamous sex trafficker the country has
(02:35):
ever dealt with. He pretended repeating Epstein's wording word for
word into the congressional record was just an odd coincidence,
as if that explanation is even remotely believable. Nobody believes
that kind of excuse, and he knows nobody believes it.
Nobody with eyes and ears is confused about how serious
that is. And the fact that he couldn't admit it
(02:55):
was a problem says everything about what side he stands
on when things get on calm stable. It showed what
matters to him more than anything he says in speeches.
It feels like he'd rather protect his circle and his
party than tell the truth to the country, And in
that moment, everything he pretends to stand for fell apart.
Watching his face as he spoke was honestly unbearable because
(03:18):
everything about it it's screamed arrogance. That little smirk, like
he thought he was clever, like he thought he was
playing some winning hand, that fake calm confidence at politicians
practice and mirrors for moments exactly like this. He looked
like he really believed he was pulling one over on everyone,
like he assumed nobody would say anything back, like he
thought the whole country was too dumb to notice what
(03:40):
he was doing. And the worst part is he looked
proud of the performance, proud of pushing something he knows
his garbage, proud of defending something he'd destroy anyone else
for doing. It was hard to watch because you could
see the disconnect in real time, and look, the hypocrisy
is impossible to ignore because it's so obvious and so loud.
This man has spent years, years shouting about accountability and
(04:02):
corruption and fairness, like he's allowed his voice fighting for justice.
He's made speeches about transparency like he's the one person
in Washington who actually means what he says. He loves
the spotlight when it's aimed at someone on the other
side and loves to play the role of moral referee.
He gets worked up and emotional and demands consequences and
says everything should be investigated thoroughly. But now when it's
(04:25):
someone standing right beside him, suddenly he wants people to
calm down. Suddenly it's not a big deal anymore. Suddenly
he's allergic to the standard he expects everyone else to meet,
and the double standard is so obvious that it's embarrassing
to witness. If a Republican had taken instruction from Epstein
during a hearing, Raskin would have turned it into a
national scandal. Before lunchtime. He'd be on every news channel
(04:49):
yelling as loudly as possible and demanding accountability. He'd be
calling for resignations and formal inquiries and emergency meetings. He
would say it proves every point he's ever made about
up and danger and power imbalance. He would not shut
up about it for weeks. But this time he just
shrugs because it involves someone close to him and he
(05:09):
doesn't want to deal with the fallout. My friends, that's
not leadership, and it's sure as hell is an integrity.
He acted like the public should feel weird for being angry,
like the problem wasn't what happened, but the reaction to it.
That kind of thinking is insulting because it tries to
flip reality upside down. This man is talking down to
(05:29):
people like their children, telling them that their reaction shouldn't exist.
And that kind of attitude doesn't change minds. It just
makes everything worse and makes people more angry. You don't
get to dismiss something serious and blame the country for caring.
That's not how respect works. Nobody appreciates being told they're
wrong for paying attention. And yeah, I thought about the
(05:50):
survivors while he was saying all of this, because how
could you not People who have lived with the trauma
for decades and struggled to be heard, people ignored and
doubted and pushed aside for years. People who watched Epstein
walk around freely while their lives fell apart, and then
they watch a congressman defend someone one of his colleagues
taking instruction from Epstein like it means nothing. Can you
(06:12):
imagine what that feels like in real time? Here and
someone treats something so serious like it's inconvenience, it's cruel,
it's heartless, and nobody with compassion would have spoken the
way he spoke. Look, nobody's pretending that this means Plasket's
about to go to prison tomorrow, and nobody's acting like
there are charges ready to file. That's not the point,
and it never was. The point is that saying it's
(06:34):
no big deal is completely insane and completely unacceptable. It
should matter, It does matter, It should be talked about honestly,
it should have real consequences, and brushing it off like
spilled coffee is not something any responsible adult would do,
let alone someone in Congress. He could have handled it
in the simplest way possible without causing chaos. He could
(06:55):
have said, yeah, it was wrong, and we need to
figure out what happened and to address it complicated, it's
not dramatic. That's basic decency and basic responsibility. But he
didn't do any of that. He chose to act smug
and superior. Instead, he chose to defend something that clearly
shouldn't be defended. He chose the easy lie instead of
the hard truth, and that tells us everything we need
(07:17):
to know. And you could tell that he was more
concerned about protecting his side than telling the truth. It
was obvious at every expression and every sentence and every
hesitation he wasn't thinking about the country or their survivors,
or the integrity of Congress. He was thinking about optics
and the Democratic Party and saving face and keeping the
team image clean. It's disgusting to watch someone pretend they're
(07:39):
doing something righteous when they're really covering for a friend.
It's insulting to anyone paying attention and anyone trying to
take this seriously. The look he gave when people push
back said everything without needing words. He looked annoyed that
anyone dared question him, Like how dare the public not
just accept what he says? Like his word should be
enough and we shouldn't want anything more. That's the kind
(08:01):
of attitude that drives people away from politics entirely. You
can't talk to people like that and expect them to
trust you. Ever, again, trust doesn't work that way. Look,
this isn't that complicated. A congresswoman should not take instruction
from Jeffrey Epstein under any circumstance. End of story, no
gray area, no political spin, no excuses about timing or
(08:22):
context or misunderstanding. It's wrong, plain wrong, and pretending it
isn't is a choice, not an accident. And what's so
crazy is that he wasted a chance to do something
decent and honest. He wasted a chance to show he
actually believes any of the things he likes to say
in his speeches. He wasted a chance to prove he's
not just another empty suit reading prepared lines, and instead
(08:45):
he showed the exact opposite. He showed that he's only
interested in accountability when it benefits him and his party.
And that's pathetic from someone who claims to be different.
Everybody watching saw exactly what he was doing, and nobody
was fooled. There was no clever about it and nothing
strategic about it. It was obvious and sloppy and weak.
(09:05):
Just another politician trying to dodge responsibility, just another person
hoping the public will forget if they say the riot
words slowly enough, and he thought nobody would notice how
hollow it all sounded. Look, people are tired. People are
sick of being spoken to like they're stupid. People are
sick of watching politicians pretend problems don't exist when they
clearly do. People want honesty, People want accountability that doesn't
(09:29):
depend on party loyalty. People want someone in power to
act like a real adult once in a while, and
we're surely not getting it from him. It becomes harder
every day to trust any of these people when they
behave like this. They all talk like heroes and act
like they're fighting for everyone, But the second something real
is at their door, everything changes and they fold. They
talk down to the public, they brush off obvious wrongdoing.
(09:52):
They act like consequences or for other people. These people
think they're untouchable, and that's the real issue. They think
speeches fit everything in tone changes reality. They think nobody
sees through them. They think all they have to do
is say a few polished lines and everyone calms down.
It's insulting, it's embarrassing, and that shit got old fast.
(10:13):
And look, at some point, disappointment stops being shocked and
becomes expectation. They show you who they are every time
they protect their own and lie to everyone else. They
show you every time they choose convenience over truth. They
show you every time they talk like the public doesn't matter,
and they do it willingly and consistently. Nothing changes until
people like that step out of the way. Because if
(10:35):
you can't say something is wrong, when it clearly is
you don't belong anywhere in your power. It's not complicated.
You defend garbage behavior. You're part of the garbage, and
people see it whether you like it or not. And
at the end of the day, Jamie Raskin showed everyone
exactly who he is. He's not some fearless truth teller.
He's not some brave defender of justice. He's just another
(10:56):
politician who folds the second the problem lands on his
own doorstep. He opened his mouth and proved he'll throw
every value he claims to believe straight into the trash
if it means protecting his own party. And he thought
nobody would notice. He thought he could smooth talk his
way through it and walk clean away. He thought the
public would sit quietly and take it because he's used
(11:16):
to people treating him like he's smarter than everyone else
in the room. If Raskin can't say something is wrong
when everyone with a functioning brain can see it's wrong,
then he doesn't belong anywhere near a microphone, let alone
a congressional seat. If he can't look at his own
side in the eye and demand consequences the same way
he demands them from everyone else then he's not fighting
(11:37):
for justice. He's fighting for his career. And if he
really thinks people are going to sit there and swallow
that weak performance, he's already lost the room. This isn't complicated.
You either stand for the truth all the time or
you don't stand for it at all, and Raskin showed
which side he's on. He can save the speeches, he
can save the moral grandstanding, he can save the bullshit
(11:57):
tone about unity and accountability transparency, because after this, nobody
buys it. So if Jamie Raskin wants to talk about
accountability ever again, he better start by looking in the
mirror and cleaning up his own house first, because nobody
is taking lectures from a guy who can't tell the
truth when it matters. Not anymore. He lost the right
to act like someone's moral compass the second he tried
(12:19):
to gaslight the entire country over something this obvious. If
he wants respect back, he can earn it the same
way everyone else has to, by owning his bullshit and
fixing it instead of pretending nothing happened. Until then, he's
just another politician hiding behind a microphone, and people are
done bowing to that all of the information that goes
(12:40):
with this episode can be found in the description box.
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