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I've been talking a lot about the non prosecution agreement
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for a few weeks now, and as we get prepared
for this non prosecution agreement to go in front of
the Eleventh Circuit Court on December third, I thought it
would be the perfect time to pull out an article
from two thousand and nine that was run by the
Palm Beach Post. And even at the time two thousand
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and nine, when they talked about the non prosecution agreement
and former federal prosecutors talked about the whole situation surrounding it,
it was very irregular. Even then, the people that knew
what the deal entailed and the prosecutors who used to
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work for the federal government who had an idea about
what it entailed, couldn't believe what they were seeing. So
when people talk about how, oh, I had no idea
what was going on, and jeff we had no idea
what Jeffrey Epstein was, it's a bunch of bs from
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this first investigation, just the one in Palm Beach, just
the one in Palm Beach. There was thirty forty fifty
girls involved in that first investigation, and these are high
school girls from the Palm Beach area. The surrounding areas,
et cetera, et cetera. All of those girls were investigated.
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It was all in the report. And all of these
people who act like they had no idea what Jeffrey
Epstein was are obviously lying. But at the time, in
two thousand and nine, it was apparent even then that
this non prosecution agreement was straight garbage. So, like I said,
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this article is from two thousand and nine. It was
published on June tenth of two thousand and nine, and
the headline Epstein's secret packed with Feds reveals highly unusual terms.
And this article was posted in the Palmbeachpost dot com.
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I can't find a author, so I'm wondering if it
was just staff. But either way, the article will be
posted in the description box like usual, the link to
the article so you can go check it out yourself.
A secret non prosecution agreement with multimillionaire financier pedophile Jeffrey
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Epstein struck with federal prosecutors is being called highly unusual
by former federal prosecutors and downright outrageous by attorneys now
representing young women who's who were victimized by him. So
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even then, all right, you had the prosecutors calling it
highly unusual, and the attorneys for the survivors, well, these
guys obviously knew that this shit didn't pass the sniff test.
How many clients had they represented on the other side
of things? How many times were they representing people charged criminally?
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And I bet you their clients never ever walked out
of there with one of these kind of deals. Oh yeah,
this deals for me, my friend, my other friend, my
other friend's friend, their cousin, their nephew Joseph, their cousin John,
Michael McGhee. And really it's all a bunch of bs.
Nobody gets those kind of deals, And these lawyers knew that.
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The deal reveals that the FBI in the US Attorney's
office investigated him for several federal crimes, including engaging miners
in commercial sex. So child prostitution, I'm using air quotes
basically of the abuse of children, since children can consent
to be prostitutes, and we're talking about girls that are
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fourteen fifteen in some cases. Here, we're not talking about
nineteen or twenty year old girls. We're talking about fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen years old in some cases, and commercial sex. That
is what the terminology used in the article. Now, remember
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this is all the way back in two thousand and nine, right,
So the terminology certainly isn't what it is today when
you have a lot of these outlets who have wised
up and started calling these gals survivors instead of victims,
et cetera, et cetera. So you see that here too,
and how much things have changed, especially since the me
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too situation occurred. The crimes are punishable by anywhere from
ten years to life in prison. Imagine, And he got
thirteen months, folks, thirteen measlely ass months. That wasn't even
real time. He wasn't eating baloney sandwiches, right, He was
watching as much TV as he wanted from his office,
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his thirteen hour adventures. Well, he wasn't being kept in
the stockade, and he was out gallivanting all around Lord
knows where, abusing Lord knows who, under the supervision of
some obviously lay mass easily paid off so called guard.
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How does any of this sit comfortably with anybody, especially
now when we have hindsight to guide us, when we're
looking back at things like this. It is just so
abhorrent what occurred, and it is beyond negligent. Right, there's
negligence and then there is willful negligence, and that's what
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we have here in my opinion. But federal prosecutors back
down and agreed to recall Grand Jerry subpoenas. If Epstein
pleaded guilty to prostitution related felonies in state court, which
he ultimately did. He received an eighteen month jail sentence,
of which he served thirteen months. And again, I know
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people that have served seven eight years for way less
than what Jeffrey Epstein was involved in. Victimless crimes, money crimes, right,
And these people get six seven years for something as
mundane as quote unquote illegal sports gambling. But Jeffrey Epstein
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his friends, they get the non prosecution agreement. They get
that cush stockade life. They get to do whatever the
hell they want, whenever they want. Oh, you just got
to come here and sleep here at night free. But
we'll keep the door open. You can go to the
room to watch TV, et cetera, et cetera. And I
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know a lot of people are pissed off out of Costa,
and I get it. A Costa is a dirt bag,
a spineless scumbag. But he ain't where all of our
fur and fury should rest. He should get a little
taste of it, which he has already, and if there
are any more sanctions that could be brought to upon him,
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or if there's anything negligent criminally that can be found,
then yeah he should be charged. But besides that, I
don't hear Mukasey's name brought up nowhere near enough, or
his underlings Philip and the rest of them. So I
think that it's just like if you're trying to get
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rid of a drug problem in a neighborhood, you don't
go and bust the street level dealers. I mean you do,
but you or not, you're just spinning your wheels. They're
just gonna have the next block boy up, moving and
ready to take over with a pocket full of stones.
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And it's the same stuff here. The US Attorney's Office
also agreed not to charge any of Epstein's possible co conspirators,
Sarah Kellen, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groff, and Nadia marson Kova
aka the Core Four. And we all know what sort
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of important intimate role all four of them had in
their capacity as far as working with and for Jeffrey Epstein.
We know that they were integral to the situation going
off without a hitch, to everything running smoothly and to
all and for all cylinders to be firing at the
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same time. And they all worked in coordination in this
criminal enterprise, with Epstein and Gilaine Maxwell pulling the strings.
The deal was negotiated in part by heavyweight New York
criminal defense attorney Gerald Leftcourt. Now, Gerald Lefcourt's an interesting cat, right.
He's on record saying that Epstein was a major donor
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to the Clinton Global Initiative, to the tune of millions
and millions of dollars. So Gerald Leftcourt is a pretty
credible guy, right, I mean, he's a big time lawyer.
Wouldn't just be saying that shit if it wasn't true.
So that's another question that people haven't really dug too
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deep on what the hell was Jeffrey Epstein getting in
return for giving Bill Clinton and his foundations so much money?
And then also remember Keylane Maxwell's nephew, Alexander de Rossi, Well,
he had himself a nice cush job at the State
Department under you guessed it, Hillary Clinton. And it would
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be nice if the legacy media would start connecting some
of these dots. It would be nice if they asked
a couple of hard questions, a few rude questions perhaps.
I mean, we see it on a daily basis right now.
So what's the difference. Why don't they want to ask
Clinton these hard questions? It really makes you wonder, doesn't it,
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Because the ties between the Clintons and Epstein are just
completely over the top. And now again, I'm not saying
Bill Clinton was abusing girls with Jeffrey Epstein. There's nobody
who's come out and said that yet, there's no evidence
of that. That's not what I mean. I'm talking about
their connection financially, their connection professionally, and that's right, their
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connection personally. Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were thickest thieves.
And Gerald Lefcourt coming out and talking about how Epstein
was such a huge donor to get the initiative for
Clinton off of the ground, it's a big deal that
a lot of people overlook. Unsealed on Friday after attorneys
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for some of Epstein's survivors and the Palm Beach Posts
sought its release, it offers the first public look at
the deal. Epstein's high powered legal counsel broker on his behalf.
And it's there's a problem, right, folks, when we're relying
on local outlets like the Palm Beach Post or the
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Miami Herald even to be the ones to force this
into light. This should just be transparency expected right away
in situations such as these. This is again, this is
not some sort of national security situation. This is not
some sort of new weapons that have to be protected
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kind of situation. It is nothing like that. It is
something that all of us, as taxpayers and as citizens
should have access to. Of course, anything that could harm
survivors redact their names, obviously. I'm talking about the overall documentation.
It should be out there. It should be public, and
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there shouldn't be any of this. Oh it's sealed and
it's hidden and you can't see it. Blah blah blah.
That stuff is all garbage. I'm really sick of that stuff, honestly.
Mark Johnson of Stuart, a former federal prosecutor, described the
disparity in potential sentences as unusual, but even more so
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a provision on attorney payment. So there's a lot, right
that goes into this, And let's just start with the
disparity of potential sentences. That is highly unusual. In fact,
it is unheard of. It's the only time a deal
like this has ever been struck in the United States,
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according to many people who are familiar with the circumstances.
And do you want me to believe, with all of
the other things that have occurred in this case, with
all of the people that Epstein was buddy buddy with,
that all of this just happened to be a coincidence.
All of this is a coincidence. I'm sorry, but I
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cannot agree with that or buy into that. The first
draft of the agreement in September two thousand and seven
require that Epstein pay an attorney tapped by the US
Attorney's Office and approved by Epstein to represent some of
the survivors. That attorney is prominent Miami lawyer Bob Josephsburg.
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Now again another little nugget, right, we don't talk about
this too much either, And that first draft of the
agreement that had the requirement to pay Josephsburg to represent
some of the victims is just way beyond weird. I mean, way, way,
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way beyond weird. Epstein shouldn't have anything to do with
providing a lawyer for those he victimized. So the whole
thing was fubar, The whole thing was trash, The whole
thing was garbage. And I can only hope that the
Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals will act in a manner
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that is fitting of people who are there to uphold justice.
And if not, I swear if it was me, if
I was one of the lawyers involved in this, I
would go all the way to the Supreme Court if
I had to. Whatever it takes, folks, because it's obvious
that this non prop secution agreement has to go. The
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only thing that's propping it up is our technicalities and
the fact that the government doesn't want that egg on
their face. But in addendum to the agreement signed the
following month, struck Epstein's duty to pay Josephsberg if he
and the victims did not accept settlements capped at one
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hundred and fifty thousand dollars and instead pursued lawsuits. Sure
sounds a lot like the fund that they set up
on the survivor's fund. Now I get why they would
set that up to expedite the payments, but this is
the kind of shit that these girls have been dealing
with forever people like Epstein. What's one hundred and fifty
thousand racks to Jeffrey Epstein. So for Jeffrey Epstein, a
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couple of pennies and some pocket lint is all it
takes for him to get off on abusing children, on
him abusing the most exposed amongst us. That's all it
takes on one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I mean,
don't get me wrong, it's a lot of money, right
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for the average folks, for us, But for Jeffrey Epstein,
that ain't shit. And he was obviously more than willing
to pay that off and to pay these girls for
their silence and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, give
me a break, that's insulting. Johnson said, it appears the
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government was trying to balance the lesser sentence for Epstein
with recovering one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for each survivor.
I've never ever seen anything like that in my life,
he said. It's highly unusual. Yeah, it's basically gag money, right,
and the government was helping facilitate it. So, look, this
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is the history of the case. Here of folks, right,
This isn't me making it up, This isn't me just
speculating here. This is what occurred. This is what occurred
right here in black and white. And it's some of
the stuff that's forgotten about, stuff that we might not
talk about too much, stuff that doesn't come up in
the newer articles too much. And that's why it's important
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to go back and yank these older articles and add
them to the catalog and go through them, because this
is this is crazy, the government facilitating one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars in hush money basically, and you mean
to tell me now? The question I guess I should
ask is is the Eleventh Circuit Court going to have
this in front of them as well? Or are they
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going to just you know, forget about this. Just like
what we learned from the air quote internal investigation by
the DOJ, the deal does not say whether any survivors
were contacted or consulted before the deal was made. They
obviously weren't. And that's the big rub here. That's one
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of the things that the Eleventh Circuit Court is going
to be looking at. Were all the parameters followed? Was
the law followed to a t, and it most certainly
was not. And all you have to do is look
at those amicus briefs filed by the lawmakers who actually
wrote this law. So I would think that the Eleventh
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Circuit Court would have that information in front of them
at the very least those amicus briefs. I mean. Attorney
Brad Edwards of Fort Lauderdale, who represents three of the
young women, believes that none of the thirty to forty
women identified as victims in the federal investigation were told
ahead of time. Edwards said his clients received letters from
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the US Attorney's office months after the deal was signed
assuring them Epstein would be prosecuted thirty to forty women.
Thirty to forty women, and I bet you they weren't women, folks. Okay,
we're going to say children, because we know what he
was doing in Palm Beach, we know about the sex
pyramid scheme he had running there, and we know how
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prolific he was when it comes to abusing girls in
Palm Beach and high school age at that. So again,
in hindsight, this is all very damning for them, very
very damning for them and their hopes of keeping this
NPA in place, never consulting the survivors is probably the
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most outrageous aspect of it. Edwards said, it taught them
that someone with money can buy his way out of anything.
It's outrageous and embarrassing for United States attorneys' offices and
state's attorney's offices one hundred percent egg on their face.
And see brad Edwards has been consistent here. Folks. Remember
this is two thousand and nine, eleven years ago, twelve
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years ago almost and Bradley Edwards was on the front
line with his gloves on, punching his way up. And
he makes a great point. What this shows these survivors
is that Jeffrey Epstein was able to do and get
away with whatever the hell he wanted, and that their lives,
their dreams, their hopes meant nothing in comparison to what
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Jeffrey Epstein wanted. Epstein now faces many civil lawsuits filed
by the women who were representative, represented by a variety
of attorneys. In many the allegations are the same that
Epstein had a taste for teenage girls, identified poor vulnerable ones,
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and used other young women to lure them to his
palm beach mansion. They walked away with between two hundred
dollars and one thousand dollars. And the money was always
for him to fall back on and cry prostitution, right,
that was always the point of the money. What do
you mean, I didn't rape anybody. I paid her. I'm
just a john And that was always going to be
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the defense. And they used it to a tee and
perfectly to get him out of that jail sentence the
first time around. Former Circuit Judge Bill Berger, also representing survivors,
called the agreement a sweetheart deal. Why was it so
important for the government to make this deal? Burger said rhetorically,
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we have not yet had an honest explanation by any
public official as to why it was made and why
the survivors were sold down the river. And even back then,
the fury of people who were involved in the case
is apparent, and the shock and discontent is apparent. It
is gross. What occurred, your folks, I mean gross. Former
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federal prosecutor Ryan McCabe described the agreement as very unorthodox. Yeah,
that's an understatement. Such agreements, he said, are usually reserved
for corporations, not individuals. Well, yeah, corporate overlords. You can't
really destroy the golden goose. We've established that if you're
a banker or a corporate overlord, boy, you get hooked up,
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you get to live your life. We'll have a deferred prosecution,
whatever that means for your stealing a five hundred billion dollars.
It's such a shell game, and it's so rigged. It
is so damn rigged. I don't know how anyone can
look at the whole system and not shake their head
in disgust. It's very, very rare. I've never seen or
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heard of the procedure that was set up here, said McCabe,
who has no involvement in the Epstein litigation. Now, this
is an ex prosecutor, folks, right. You know I always
say I'm not a lawyer. I have no idea, but
from the way where I'm sitting and from what I see,
well looks like this lawyer certainly agrees this kind of
shit does not happen. He's eventually avoid he's essentially avoiding
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federal prosecution because he can afford to pay that many
lawyers to help those survivors review their cases. If a
person has no money, he wouldn't be able to strike
a deal like this and avoid federal prosecution. It's so sick. God,
the way these girls were preyed upon by Epstein and
the Department of just Us, it is absolutely obscene. The
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back room deal with federal prosecutors is all the more
interesting in light of the legal powerhouses who have worked
for Epstein, including Harvard professor Allen I kept my underpants on, Dershowitz,
and Bill Clinton. Investigator Kenneth Starr Leftcourt is a past
president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, and
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those guys alone right there constitute some of the most
powerful lawyers in the land at the time and still
to this day. Gerald Leftcourt, Kenneth Starr, Alan Dershowitz, those
are all high profile attorneys, even though they're scumbags. Epstein's
local defense attorney, Jack Meoff Goldberger, issued a statement Friday
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saying he had fought the release of the sealed agreement
to protect the third party's name. There, mister Epstein has
fully abided by all of its terms and conditions. He
is looking forward to putting this difficult period in his
life behind him. He is continuing his longstanding history of
science philanthropy. Let me translate that He's looking forward to
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continuing to abuse and destroy lives, and nobody's going to
stop him. And he'll use his charitable givings as a shield.
That makes more sense, right. The investigation triggered tensions between
police and prosecutors, with then Palm Beach Chief Michael Ryder
saying in a May two thousand and six letter to
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then State Attorney Barry Krisher that the chief prosecutor should
disqualify himself. I continue to find your office's treatment of
these cases highly unusual, Writer wrote. He then asked for
and got the federal investigation that ended in the sealed deal,
and Writer was one of the only heroes in this
whole case. In my opinion, Chief Writer was an og
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tripleog in this case. He did real good work, real
good investigative work, and he delivered a case to prosecutors
that should have been a slam dunk. I'm talking Shaquille
O'Neill over Spudweb level slam dunk. But no, they screwed
it up. They found a way to be air quotes negligent,
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They found a way to air quotes exhibit poor judgment.
And meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein and his band of disgusting abusers
continued on their merry way. The Jeffrey Epstein matter was
an experience of what was an experience of what a
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many million dollar defense can accomplish, writer told the Palm
Beach Daily News upon his retirement, And it's so true, right.
That's another thing we talk about quite a bit here
on the podcast. If you got ducats and you got
some fazuls and money, and you can afford these top
line lawyers, even if you're guilty, they're gonna get you
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off on some sort of tech technicality. And that is
exactly what we're seeing here in this Epstein case, and
we're certainly seeing it now in real time in the
Gilain Maxwell case as they search for that whole, as
they search for that chink in the armor of the
prosecution to latch onto that technicality and to have one
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of these scumbag judges rule in their favor. The good thing, though,
is it seems that Judge Nathan and certainly Judge Presca
are not playing their games, and that they're pursuing justice
and not looking to make friends. If you like to
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Thank you very much. All Right, folks, I'll be back
later on tonight with the Daily Drop and we will
go over some of the documentation and some of the
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stuff that has been unsealed as of today, so have
that to look forward to and I will catch you
folks then