December 3, 2025 • 34 mins
After legal pressure mounted on Black for his close relationship with Epstein — including revelations that Black paid Epstein tens of millions of dollars for “tax and estate planning” even after Epstein’s 2008 conviction — new lawsuits and investigations began to cast a wider net. Among those subpoenaed in a broad civil case against financial institutions linked to Epstein was Zuckerman, as part of efforts to trace the money trails and financial networks that may have funded or facilitated Epstein’s enterprise. The inclusion of Zuckerman’s name signaled a legal strategy aiming to pull in other wealthy associates and financiers who might have had business or financial exposure to Epstein — effectively broadening liability beyond Black.
Black’s own legal maneuvers complicated matters further. While he faced civil lawsuits (for alleged sexual misconduct) and regulatory scrutiny over his payments to Epstein, the broader legal actions — including suits against banks and other financial players — sought to implicate individuals like Zuckerman in chains of financial relationships tied to Epstein’s operations. By doing this, Black’s case became not just about his personal associations, but part of a larger legal attempt to map and hold accountable the network of affluent, high-profile individuals and institutions whose money may have indirectly supported Epstein’s activities.
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Black’s own legal maneuvers complicated matters further. While he faced civil lawsuits (for alleged sexual misconduct) and regulatory scrutiny over his payments to Epstein, the broader legal actions — including suits against banks and other financial players — sought to implicate individuals like Zuckerman in chains of financial relationships tied to Epstein’s operations. By doing this, Black’s case became not just about his personal associations, but part of a larger legal attempt to map and hold accountable the network of affluent, high-profile individuals and institutions whose money may have indirectly supported Epstein’s activities.
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
your host Bobby Kapucci, and this is a morning update.
What's up everybody, and welcome to the program. So Leon
Black is in the thick of it now, right, he
had the Jeffrey Epstein problems, then he had the problems
(01:53):
with missus Ganieva, and now those problems are growing. In
my opinion, him five ing back with that lawsuit basically
calling him Ganiheva a liar and all sorts of other
things is not going to age well in my opinion.
It's the sort of strategy that we see from these
(02:13):
kind of guys time and time again. And you know,
I'd love to be able to give him the benefit
of the doubt, right, I'd love to be, you know,
sitting back and saying, oh, look, we don't know enough
about this. He said this, she said that we need
to wait for more evidence, and that's my usual approach.
But I find Leon Black to be a contemptible, disgusting
(02:36):
human being, so I don't put this above him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm not saying that he actually did all of this.
I don't know, right, That's the fact of the matter is,
I don't know. But what I will say is I
don't find it out of the realm of possibility. And
when it comes to somebody like Leon Black, somebody who
is just been scummy their whole professional life, at least,
(03:02):
it certainly fits in the character of somebody who has
complete control over everything, somebody who expects people to jump
on demand. And you would expect that somebody who is
in control of a relationship such as the one that
him and Missus Ganieva had, that he would be the
(03:24):
dominant force in that relationship. That's how it usually works, right,
Whoever controls the purse strings is running the show, and
that's a pretty unfortunate way to go about a relationship.
But more times than not, when we're dealing especially with
these kind of people, these rich people like this, uh
uber rich people like this. It's certainly how it works.
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The power is in the hands of the purse string,
and the per stringholder obviously is Leon Black. But he's
saying that, you know, this was all consensual and none
of this ever occurred and all of that, while on
the other hand, missus ghani Eva is giving us a
completely different picture of what their relationship was like, a
(04:10):
relationship that started consensually and then, according to her, unraveled
and flew off the tracks a whole different way. So
when it comes to situations like this, like I always
say that are moving through the court system as we speak,
there's not another you know, too much evidence one way
(04:31):
or the other. All we could really do is keep
our eye on it right and see what's what and
try and cut through the bullshit to get to the
good stuff. And there's gonna be a lot of back
and forth when it comes to Leon Black trying to
pooh pooh these allegations against him, and he's gonna, you know,
(04:52):
he's gonna come with everything. He has, everything in the
trick bag. And these billion these billionaires, you know, they
have a pretty large tricks, so he's gonna come hard
at missus Ganieva. And that was the strategy that was
time tested and worked great for them forever. But not
so much anymore. The public's catching on. You know, before
(05:14):
these people were almost beyond reproach, right, Oh, well, they're
so rich, they're so powerful, Why would they ever get
themselves in a position like that. Hell, I even think
I used to think like that, Oh, these guys have
so much money, why would they have to rape somebody?
Just call it a call girl, for God's sakes, What
the hell? But then you start to delve a little deeper,
(05:35):
and you scratch the surface a little more, and you
understand that it's not just about the sexual gratification. It's
about the control. It's about the power with these people.
And then you start to see that it's a whole
different thing. It's not just about the the sexual gratification
right where they just call a hooker perhaps and do
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their business and be done with it. No, they want
to completely smash people's mental capacity. They want to completely
make them molded and built for what they think that
they should be. And that's what you have when you
got guys like Leon Black, and Jeffrey Epstein. They are
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so narcissistic that they believe that they run the whole show, everything,
every person that they come in contact with, the whole shebang,
and Missus Gnieva probably, you know, in retrospect, she would
think anyway, I would guess that she made a big
(06:41):
mistake ever getting involved with Leon Black, because when you
get involved with a billionaire like this, or a millionaire
like this, or you know, so unpowerful and things go south,
you know they're going to try and destroy you. And
Leon Black certainly is no different, and Missus Gonnieva is
definitely to be in for a fight. That said, I know,
(07:04):
I'm keeping my eye on this story pretty closely, so
I'm gonna hopefully be able to swim through the bullshit
and get to the important stuff, and we'll be able
to avoid the spin and the nonsensical BS smoke screens
that Leon Black is inevitably going to throw up. Because
(07:25):
I'm working on the suspicion that this guy being the
scumbag that he is cheating on his wife, hanging out
with Epstein the whole nine, I'm working on the assumption
that what she is saying is very, very possible and
until we have all of the evidence out there and
(07:48):
we see everything, you know, we won't know for sure,
but it certainly doesn't seem like it's out of the
realm of character for me. With someone like Leon Black,
when they pay a woman, you know, they give them
everything that they that he gave missus Ganieva, money, a house.
They feel like they own you, like they control you.
(08:09):
That's why it's so important for people to be financially independent.
If something was to happen to me tomorrow, or if
Carrie decided she didn't want to be with me tomorrow,
she doesn't need me to be financially independent. She has
a great career as a personal trainer. You know, she
(08:29):
could live her life without me. And I try and
pump that to people all the time, even good friends
of mine who are with guys that are solid dudes,
but they might not have the schooling or the learning
or or or background to be able to take care
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of themselves it selves in the manner that they they
they're used to if something was to happen with their husband.
So all of you ladies out there listening and dudes
out there listening, by the way, don't be a punk
If your chick wants to do better for herself, if
she wants to level up, be there and help her out.
Help her level up. When Carrie was she had breast cancer. Okay,
(09:15):
she got diagnosed with breast cancer and she got her
personal trainer's certification while she was going through chemo and shit.
So support your lady, help her level her up. Because
without that support, without having a solid woman behind you
to help you steer the right direction and stay on course,
(09:37):
you're gonna be in big trouble. Folks, Dudes aren't meant
to swim through life on their own. We're not mentally
capable of that. I hate to break it to you
guys out there, but there's a lot of dudes that
get intimidated when their chick wants to level up and
when she wants to do better for herself, like they're worried, oh,
she might meet new guys. Man, drop all of that shit,
(09:57):
get rid of all of that. Nobody wants to negative
energy around them. Your girl could recognize that. Don't be
a timid punk, don't be a bitch. Support your girl
whatever she wants to do, help her level up, because
you might not always be there right something might happen. Man,
this is a crazy world. I can walk outside and
get hit by a car tomorrow and then what. So
(10:22):
while you're here, do the right thing. Help your lady
level up, and ladies, help your dude level up too.
There's a lot of times your dude is fighting all
sorts of battles. You have no idea he's fighting because
he won't open up. You know, mental health and guys,
it's weird. It's a weird subject.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Me.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I've had my own struggles, you know, I've been pretty
open about my battles with anxiety and then with Carrie
being sick. You know, being the caregiver. There's a lot
that goes along with it. So it's nothing to be
embarrassed about, right, your mental health and you know, take
care of yourself. But my point being here is you
have to help your lady level up because you might
(11:04):
not always be there, right and even if you're not
always there, say it's you just break up for the
ladies out there or the guys, I guess too, who
are you know? Maybe just stay at home.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Dads or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Gotta have yourself a little something to fall back on,
because you can't let anybody control your life. You have
to control your life. And with your girlfriend or your
husband or your wife or whatever, that's a partnership fifty
to fifty. Of course you have there's give and take there, right,
but in general, you want to be in control of
your life. And some scumbag like Leon Black shows up
(11:38):
with a fat bag and it's enticing, but you gotta
remember when you're accepting that bag, you're also accepting the
rules that come with it. With these scumbags, they're non
they're non discretionary agreements. You know, all sorts of wild
stuff comes along with it. And it's a shitty trap.
(12:01):
And these people with all of this power, these these rich,
powerful men like and and women in some cases, but
mostly men, they use that They use the things that
they give you to control you, to mold you. And
I don't think we were seeing anything different here in
the Leon Black case.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Oh, he'll set it up like he's.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
The one that's trying to be like like she's trying
to extort him like he's doing. But I don't buy it.
And not only that, but in typical scumbag fashion, just
like with Dershowitz trying to pull Wexner into his nonsense. Well,
you have your boy Leon Black trying to drag mort
Zuckerman into his legal woes with Miss Ganieva, and that
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is what we're going to be talking about on the
podcast today. Bitch asked Leon Black dragging in another one
of these scumbag billionaires as cover. Well, this guy said
or this guy wasn't involved, and you know the routine.
How many times have we seen it?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Oh, well, it's okay because this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Person did it or that person was there and this
is an upstanding citizen. How many times have we seen it? Personally?
You can miss me with all of that bullshit. I
am tired of it. I'm tired of all of it,
and I'm tired of the bitch ass punks who push it.
Enough with the gas lighting.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Enough all right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Today's article is from the New York Post. This article
is authored by Josh Kosman. Headline, Leon Black drags Mort
Zuckerman into legal battle with Russian model And look again,
these guys. Anyone who thinks the guy like Leon Black
is going down by himself if he goes down is
not paying attention. These dudes are the epitome of narcissism.
(13:54):
The whole world revolves around them, So when something like
this happens, literally, they believe the whole world should stop
for them. What they don't know is we wish they
would all get onto jeff Bezos rocket ship and launch
themselves into a black fucking hole. Leon Black may be
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gearing up to drag some of his fellow billionaires into
his messi legal battle with a woman who has accused
him of rape, including Mort Zuckerman, the real estate developer
behind US News and World Report.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
The Post has learned.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm sure that Mort Zuckerman is really just so excited
by the fact that m. Leon Black has decided to
drag him into his legal battle. Just what you want, huh,
Your name dragged in with some Jeffrey Epstein bullshit right
next to Leon Black. That's gonna be good for business.
That's gonna be good for the bottom line, said nobody ever.
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Russian model Gazelle Ganijeva has publicly accused Black, the disgraced
former head of Apollo Global Management, of paying her to
sign a confidentiality agreement in twenty fifteen tied to her
sexual assault and abuse allegations against him. Black has countered
that she signed the NDA in exchange for twenty one
(15:15):
million dollars to keep quiet about their six year long
consensual affair. So you're gonna pay twenty one million dollars
to keep your affair silent? Really as if nobody else
knew that you were having this affair. He wants us
to believe that the twenty one million was just for
the silence, had nothing to do with the fact that,
(15:37):
according to her, you were an abusive asshole force yourself
upon her. Has nothing to do with that, right, twenty
one million.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Just for her to keep quiet.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Pretty sure your wife already knew, you know, your sick wife,
that you were supposedly retiring to spend more time with,
you piece of shit scumbag. You know, I take that personally, folks,
by the way, as somebody who sat around and watched
his beautiful, full, incredibly in shaped chick gets sick. And
by the way, who do you think shaved her head?
(16:09):
To think that their scumbags out there that would defy
the sanctity of whatever relationship that they're in with their
sick chicken bed by going out and trying to score
some strange is just absolutely beyond me, and it makes
me mentally so mad. I can't even begin to explain
to you how maddening that is to me. Be a man,
(16:32):
Be a fucking man, step up to the plate. All
the money in the world, all the power in the world,
that doesn't make you a man. The way you conduct
yourself in front of the rights and when they're off,
especially when they're off, that's what makes you a man.
And a bitch like Leon Black treats his wife like that,
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cheats on her while she's sick. Especially that ain't no man.
It's the kind of dude that will get smacked right
in the face by Don Corleone, and seeking to prove
that he was the victim, Black on Monday filed a
fifty two page countersuit against Ganieva that points to recordings
(17:15):
he claims he racked up of Ganieva's sometimes paranoid explanations
for why she should be paid to quietly walk away
from the affair. So, according to Black, he's like, look,
this was all consensual. She was really into me because
you know, I'm such a good looking dude.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Have you seen Leon Black?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
If it wasn't for the money, dudes, hand wouldn't even
want anything to do with him. So really, so, according
to him, it was just you know, it was all consensual,
and now this is just a big shakedown because she
wants my money. Shut up, man. The suit alleges one
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recording had Ganieva complaining several billionaires were threatening her and
might be involved in a conspiracy against her, including a
reference that the Post has confirmed is to Zuckerman, the
real estate developer who bought the US News and World
Report in nineteen eighty four. Well, is it beyond the
realm of possibility that all of these billionaires were in
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on it together. Look, I don't know if that's the case.
Right again, I don't know. I wasn't there. There's not
years of documentation here to back things up or to
pooh pooh things. So you know, I'm willing to follow
the evidence like usual, wherever it goes. But Leon Black
is a straight scumbag, So I should believe you, mister
(18:44):
scumbag who's cheating on his sick wife. Yeah. Sorry, not
exactly the sort of character that I search out when
I'm looking for honest folk.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So yeah, look, guess what.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
At this point with stuff like this, it's all gonna
be opinion based, right. People are gonna chase their confirmation biases.
People are gonna say, yeah, Leon Black is one hundred
percent and guilty, all because they hate him. And you
know what, I don't blame you if you go that route,
because he is a scumbag me.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
All the way.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I'll follow the evidence, we'll see where it all goes
like usual. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna be uh
short of an opinion of the man. This dude made
his own bed. Nobody told him to break bread with
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Nobody.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I wouldn't even be talking about this little dumpy, fat
prick if it wasn't for Jeffrey Epstein. So again, this
is all These are all self inflicted wounds for all
of these people. They have no one to blame but themselves.
They're finally being called out onto the carpet after all
of these years of their willy nilly bitch ass relationships
with Jeffrey Epstein. They're finally being called on the carpet,
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and they're all running for cover, buying up the pick
that are out there of them with Epstein or Maxwell,
like straight bitches. That's what pitches do, folks. They don't
face their issues. They run from them. They don't stand
up like men or women. They run like cowards in chumps,
and that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
At the core of it. That's what all bullies.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Are, right, cowards and chumps. And Epstein all of his friends,
all of the pitch ass intelligence agents or whoever else
we're working with them, You're all cowards. You're all chumps.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I said it, pitch ass cowards, all of you, ghanie Ava.
Ghanie Ava also claimed that one of those billionaires who
had given her a job as a writer for his
publication was making fun of her and had also threatened
to fire her unless she slept with him. According to
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Black's Manhattan State Court lawsuit, Now again we're talking about
the world of scummy billionaires. It's beyond one of these guys,
one of these scumbags who grew up in this environment
for all of these years, where it was okay to
think that this lady, this missus Ganieva, because she has
a job writing for them, has to sleep with them.
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It was like part of it, right, It's like the
first night rights in the old days, when you would
get married, but the lord would come by and he'd
get to have the first tumble with your wife. That's
how these guys live their lives. It's like they run
their own little mini fiefdoms and they're these feudal lords,
(21:35):
and forever we've just accepted it as a populist right. Ah,
they're rich, they're just eccentric. Well, no, eccentric is you
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Speaker 3 (22:15):
Not these scumbags that we're talking about. A source close
to the situation said the billionaire publisher referenced is Zuckerman,
who is now in failing health but still owns the
magazine after selling The New York Daily News in twenty
and seventeen. So again, This is a world very very
(22:38):
deeply connected. All of these billionaires run together, all of them.
There's only what like twenty seven hundred billionaires in the
whole world or something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
It's a very exclusive group, and.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
They're all bumping shoulders and rubbing shoulders and all hanging
out with each other. Ganieva's byline is indeed attached to
two articles for US News and World Report in twenty fourteen,
including a May story on Obamacare titled Obamacare Enrollies by
the Numbers and an April story on climate change titled
(23:11):
top ten reasons to Worry about climate Change. No other
news articles were uncovered under Ganieva's byline for that or
any other publication. So The New York Post has chased
it down a bit.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They've done the proper journalistic work. And I got to
give the Post props, right. The Post takes some shit for,
you know, page six and being a bit of a
chatter column or you know, nonsense every now and then,
But they do a lot of good work, and they
have a lot of good pieces, and it's one of
the publications that I roll through every morning just to
(23:45):
take a look at what's going on and you know,
also from being from New York, I like to get
a little, a little feel for what the deal is.
Not a fan of the New York Times, as you
well know. I like the Daily News. I think that's
a fine paper. Nothing wrong with that paper. But the
New York Times is just part of the problem in
my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Eric Gertler, a Zuckerman relative who speaks for him, referred
questions to US News and World Reports spokeswoman Maria Santucci.
Santucci said, ooh, these allegations are baseless over a a
and designed to deflect the tension from the litigant's own actions.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Forget about it, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
She didn't really say that, but you know that's my
little Italian spin on it. She said, these allegations are
baseless and designed to deflect attention from a litigant's own actions.
And that's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is Leon Black trying to muck things up, trying
to drop a little murk in the water. Let's make
it a little cloudier so nobody can see the destination.
Just swim around all day, bumping into each other. Bring
some other people into it. We'll say this guy was involved.
We'll say that guy was involved, and you know everything
will be hunky dory. Some lawyers speculated that Black is
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sending a signal to powerful people who may have had
ties to Gannieva, welcome or not, that they better help
shut her up or they could all suffer. Definitely, this
is a powerplay, folks, one hundred percent, without a doubt.
This is a flex by Leon Black. This is what
they do. They are in the business of intimidation. Look
(25:26):
at how that Ronan Pharaoh character was intimidated by people
following them in shit. That's how they roll there. Used
to be in the tough guy there, used to be
in a one call in the shots. They think they're
the shot caller on the yard, as it were, and
forever they have been. But things are starting to change.
(25:48):
People don't fear them as much anymore. People aren't scared
of their bullshit nonsense anymore. And most importantly, we're all
hipped to their narrative. So when they start to pitch it,
we see, we eat right through it right away, and
we absolutely body it, and they don't know how to
(26:08):
deal with that. The reference is to let others know
that they are going to get dragged into this and
they may want to put pressure on her to drop
the case, Opine Stephn Borton of Boyd Law Group, which
has worked for both sexual harassment victims and defendants. As
long as they are doing it this way, it is
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not witness tampering. Borton said, they didn't name him, although
they came close. And this is the games they play,
right again, this is what I'm talking about. When you
pay for a lawyer, this is what you're paying for.
So if you're gonna be out there, look, let me
be very clear. If you're out there running the streets
and you're causing trouble and you're gonna get into a
situation that might end you up in jail, you better
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have enough money to pay for a lawyer. Don't think
that you're gonna go in there with a public defender
and you're not gonna get your wings clip, homie, you
are so unless you're hard enough to deal with the repercussions,
and most of us aren't, don't play the game. And
this Leon Black is pulling everybody in, pulling out all
(27:11):
the stops right as much deflection as he can possibly
come up with. Another lawyer who asked not to be identified,
said the former Apollo head. May be seeking to suss
out whether Ganieva had signed NDA's with anyone else. Maybe
he wants to show she shook everyone down, said the lawyer,
(27:32):
who was not involved in the case. Why did he
finger a mort unless the defense will be that she
is a grifter, shakedown artist, extraordinary speculated. So again, if
that comes out, then we'll.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Have to see.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But my gut tells me that's just some garbage bs.
Leon Black is thrown out there, that his team's throwing
out there to try and to try and throw shade
over this whole thing and throw a little bit of
cold water on it before it steams.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Up too hot.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Reps for both Black and Ghanieva declined comment. Gnieva sued
Black for defamation in June after he denied her sexual
assault claims to The Post in April by saying she
was trying to extort him. Ganieva's claims come as Black
has come under the microscope for his ties to dead
pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Way to go New York Post call
(28:22):
him a pedophile and again, I just I stated that earlier.
If it wasn't for Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to
that scumbag. I wouldn't even be talking about this man
right now. How many cases do we have running through
the courts of this nature right I'm not interested in
following these kinds of cases for the most part, But
when they wrap up into the Jeffrey Epstein case, well,
(28:44):
you find yourself squarely on the radar there, mister Black,
and it's probably not the most comfortable place to be.
Apollo in January revealed an independent investigation, oh independent investigation
was it, showing that Black I could pay at Epstein
one hundred and fifty eight million dollars for tax advice
and estate planning services between twenty thirteen and twenty and seventeen,
(29:09):
after Epstein had pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight
for procuring an underage girl for prostitution.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
What a great pal. Huh.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You know, Jeff, you're a level three sex offender. But
that's okay. Here's one hundred and fifty eight million dollars. Boy,
I feel good about myself. So why should I think
that a fellow traveler of Jeffrey Epstein's is not capable
of sexually assaulting missus Ganieva? Why should I think that
for a minute. That would be like me thinking that
somebody who's hanging out down at the Ravenite Social Club
(29:38):
is not also in on the mafia. Griff, give me
a break already. Okay, I'm so tired of them bullshitting
and trying to just cause the cognitive dissonance. I'm not biting. Okay,
We're gonna lock on, and that's exactly what we've done.
We have locked on. You know, like when a pitbull
grabs onto something and starts at the headshake. That's where
(29:58):
we're at right now. We have our our jaw is
locked onto this and we're starting to shake our head.
Black has said he was only guilty of poor judgment
in his dealings with Epstein. He also referenced his extremely
poor judgment in his July countersuit against Ganieva. So the
poor judgment, Huh. You were control of billions and billions
and billions of dollars of people's money, but you had
(30:20):
poor judgment. Huh. Apollo Global was the megafirm, top notch,
nobody better, but you had bad decision making. Shut up, man.
You chose to be with Jeffrey Epstein because you loved
what he brought to the table. That's what happened. Zuckerman
(30:41):
is also connected to Epstein a bit pre conviction. The
duo made an unsuccessful bid to buy New York Magazine
in two thousand and three, and teamed again a year
later to invest in Radar Magazine, which later became Radar Online.
There is no indication that Zuckerman was involved in or
was aware of Epstein's sexual crimes. Ganieva, too had met Epstein.
(31:04):
According to sources with knowledge of the situation, this is
just the beginning of this, folks, the tip of the iceberg,
and this whole Leon Black situation is going to reveal
a whole lot if it gets to trial. And I
have a funny feeling that missus Ganieva is going for
gusto here. She's definitely looking it's definitely looking like she's
(31:24):
looking to expose all of this bullshit. And if it
gets to trial and it goes to discovery, it's gonna
be big trouble, big trouble for Leon Black and the
rest of his buddies. Now will that trouble result in
any jail time or anything, Who knows, But at the
very least these people will be persona non grata in public.
(31:52):
If this was a Rico case, the Jeffrey Epstein case,
that is, well, this would be a whole different discussion.
But unfortunately, folks, there's no signs of Rico yet and.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
We are where we are.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But with that said, it's nice to see the mask
at least get pulled off a little bit of these
scumbags so called elites. It's nice to see Jeffrey Epstein's
friends squarely under the microscope, and it'll be really nice
to see some more indictments. If you'd like to contact me,
you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at Protonmeil dot com.
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Speaker 3 (01:31):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm
your host Bobby Kapucci, and this is a morning update.
What's up everybody, and welcome to the program. So Leon
Black is in the thick of it now, right, he
had the Jeffrey Epstein problems, then he had the problems
(01:53):
with missus Ganieva, and now those problems are growing. In
my opinion, him five ing back with that lawsuit basically
calling him Ganiheva a liar and all sorts of other
things is not going to age well in my opinion.
It's the sort of strategy that we see from these
(02:13):
kind of guys time and time again. And you know,
I'd love to be able to give him the benefit
of the doubt, right, I'd love to be, you know,
sitting back and saying, oh, look, we don't know enough
about this. He said this, she said that we need
to wait for more evidence, and that's my usual approach.
But I find Leon Black to be a contemptible, disgusting
(02:36):
human being, so I don't put this above him.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Now.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'm not saying that he actually did all of this.
I don't know, right, That's the fact of the matter is,
I don't know. But what I will say is I
don't find it out of the realm of possibility. And
when it comes to somebody like Leon Black, somebody who
is just been scummy their whole professional life, at least,
(03:02):
it certainly fits in the character of somebody who has
complete control over everything, somebody who expects people to jump
on demand. And you would expect that somebody who is
in control of a relationship such as the one that
him and Missus Ganieva had, that he would be the
(03:24):
dominant force in that relationship. That's how it usually works, right,
Whoever controls the purse strings is running the show, and
that's a pretty unfortunate way to go about a relationship.
But more times than not, when we're dealing especially with
these kind of people, these rich people like this, uh
uber rich people like this. It's certainly how it works.
(03:46):
The power is in the hands of the purse string,
and the per stringholder obviously is Leon Black. But he's
saying that, you know, this was all consensual and none
of this ever occurred and all of that, while on
the other hand, missus ghani Eva is giving us a
completely different picture of what their relationship was like, a
(04:10):
relationship that started consensually and then, according to her, unraveled
and flew off the tracks a whole different way. So
when it comes to situations like this, like I always
say that are moving through the court system as we speak,
there's not another you know, too much evidence one way
(04:31):
or the other. All we could really do is keep
our eye on it right and see what's what and
try and cut through the bullshit to get to the
good stuff. And there's gonna be a lot of back
and forth when it comes to Leon Black trying to
pooh pooh these allegations against him, and he's gonna, you know,
(04:52):
he's gonna come with everything. He has, everything in the
trick bag. And these billion these billionaires, you know, they
have a pretty large tricks, so he's gonna come hard
at missus Ganieva. And that was the strategy that was
time tested and worked great for them forever. But not
so much anymore. The public's catching on. You know, before
(05:14):
these people were almost beyond reproach, right, Oh, well, they're
so rich, they're so powerful, Why would they ever get
themselves in a position like that. Hell, I even think
I used to think like that, Oh, these guys have
so much money, why would they have to rape somebody?
Just call it a call girl, for God's sakes, What
the hell? But then you start to delve a little deeper,
(05:35):
and you scratch the surface a little more, and you
understand that it's not just about the sexual gratification. It's
about the control. It's about the power with these people.
And then you start to see that it's a whole
different thing. It's not just about the the sexual gratification
right where they just call a hooker perhaps and do
(05:56):
their business and be done with it. No, they want
to completely smash people's mental capacity. They want to completely
make them molded and built for what they think that
they should be. And that's what you have when you
got guys like Leon Black, and Jeffrey Epstein. They are
(06:20):
so narcissistic that they believe that they run the whole show, everything,
every person that they come in contact with, the whole shebang,
and Missus Gnieva probably, you know, in retrospect, she would
think anyway, I would guess that she made a big
(06:41):
mistake ever getting involved with Leon Black, because when you
get involved with a billionaire like this, or a millionaire
like this, or you know, so unpowerful and things go south,
you know they're going to try and destroy you. And
Leon Black certainly is no different, and Missus Gonnieva is
definitely to be in for a fight. That said, I know,
(07:04):
I'm keeping my eye on this story pretty closely, so
I'm gonna hopefully be able to swim through the bullshit
and get to the important stuff, and we'll be able
to avoid the spin and the nonsensical BS smoke screens
that Leon Black is inevitably going to throw up. Because
(07:25):
I'm working on the suspicion that this guy being the
scumbag that he is cheating on his wife, hanging out
with Epstein the whole nine, I'm working on the assumption
that what she is saying is very, very possible and
until we have all of the evidence out there and
(07:48):
we see everything, you know, we won't know for sure,
but it certainly doesn't seem like it's out of the
realm of character for me. With someone like Leon Black,
when they pay a woman, you know, they give them
everything that they that he gave missus Ganieva, money, a house.
They feel like they own you, like they control you.
(08:09):
That's why it's so important for people to be financially independent.
If something was to happen to me tomorrow, or if
Carrie decided she didn't want to be with me tomorrow,
she doesn't need me to be financially independent. She has
a great career as a personal trainer. You know, she
(08:29):
could live her life without me. And I try and
pump that to people all the time, even good friends
of mine who are with guys that are solid dudes,
but they might not have the schooling or the learning
or or or background to be able to take care
(08:51):
of themselves it selves in the manner that they they
they're used to if something was to happen with their husband.
So all of you ladies out there listening and dudes
out there listening, by the way, don't be a punk
If your chick wants to do better for herself, if
she wants to level up, be there and help her out.
Help her level up. When Carrie was she had breast cancer. Okay,
(09:15):
she got diagnosed with breast cancer and she got her
personal trainer's certification while she was going through chemo and shit.
So support your lady, help her level her up. Because
without that support, without having a solid woman behind you
to help you steer the right direction and stay on course,
(09:37):
you're gonna be in big trouble. Folks, Dudes aren't meant
to swim through life on their own. We're not mentally
capable of that. I hate to break it to you
guys out there, but there's a lot of dudes that
get intimidated when their chick wants to level up and
when she wants to do better for herself, like they're worried, oh,
she might meet new guys. Man, drop all of that shit,
(09:57):
get rid of all of that. Nobody wants to negative
energy around them. Your girl could recognize that. Don't be
a timid punk, don't be a bitch. Support your girl
whatever she wants to do, help her level up, because
you might not always be there right something might happen. Man,
this is a crazy world. I can walk outside and
get hit by a car tomorrow and then what. So
(10:22):
while you're here, do the right thing. Help your lady
level up, and ladies, help your dude level up too.
There's a lot of times your dude is fighting all
sorts of battles. You have no idea he's fighting because
he won't open up. You know, mental health and guys,
it's weird. It's a weird subject.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Me.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I've had my own struggles, you know, I've been pretty
open about my battles with anxiety and then with Carrie
being sick. You know, being the caregiver. There's a lot
that goes along with it. So it's nothing to be
embarrassed about, right, your mental health and you know, take
care of yourself. But my point being here is you
have to help your lady level up because you might
(11:04):
not always be there, right and even if you're not
always there, say it's you just break up for the
ladies out there or the guys, I guess too, who
are you know? Maybe just stay at home.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Dads or whatever.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Gotta have yourself a little something to fall back on,
because you can't let anybody control your life. You have
to control your life. And with your girlfriend or your
husband or your wife or whatever, that's a partnership fifty
to fifty. Of course you have there's give and take there, right,
but in general, you want to be in control of
your life. And some scumbag like Leon Black shows up
(11:38):
with a fat bag and it's enticing, but you gotta
remember when you're accepting that bag, you're also accepting the
rules that come with it. With these scumbags, they're non
they're non discretionary agreements. You know, all sorts of wild
stuff comes along with it. And it's a shitty trap.
(12:01):
And these people with all of this power, these these rich,
powerful men like and and women in some cases, but
mostly men, they use that They use the things that
they give you to control you, to mold you. And
I don't think we were seeing anything different here in
the Leon Black case.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Oh, he'll set it up like he's.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
The one that's trying to be like like she's trying
to extort him like he's doing. But I don't buy it.
And not only that, but in typical scumbag fashion, just
like with Dershowitz trying to pull Wexner into his nonsense. Well,
you have your boy Leon Black trying to drag mort
Zuckerman into his legal woes with Miss Ganieva, and that
(12:46):
is what we're going to be talking about on the
podcast today. Bitch asked Leon Black dragging in another one
of these scumbag billionaires as cover. Well, this guy said
or this guy wasn't involved, and you know the routine.
How many times have we seen it?
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Oh, well, it's okay because this.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Person did it or that person was there and this
is an upstanding citizen. How many times have we seen it? Personally?
You can miss me with all of that bullshit. I
am tired of it. I'm tired of all of it,
and I'm tired of the bitch ass punks who push it.
Enough with the gas lighting.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Enough all right.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Today's article is from the New York Post. This article
is authored by Josh Kosman. Headline, Leon Black drags Mort
Zuckerman into legal battle with Russian model And look again,
these guys. Anyone who thinks the guy like Leon Black
is going down by himself if he goes down is
not paying attention. These dudes are the epitome of narcissism.
(13:54):
The whole world revolves around them, So when something like
this happens, literally, they believe the whole world should stop
for them. What they don't know is we wish they
would all get onto jeff Bezos rocket ship and launch
themselves into a black fucking hole. Leon Black may be
(14:17):
gearing up to drag some of his fellow billionaires into
his messi legal battle with a woman who has accused
him of rape, including Mort Zuckerman, the real estate developer
behind US News and World Report.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
The Post has learned.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I'm sure that Mort Zuckerman is really just so excited
by the fact that m. Leon Black has decided to
drag him into his legal battle. Just what you want, huh,
Your name dragged in with some Jeffrey Epstein bullshit right
next to Leon Black. That's gonna be good for business.
That's gonna be good for the bottom line, said nobody ever.
(14:54):
Russian model Gazelle Ganijeva has publicly accused Black, the disgraced
former head of Apollo Global Management, of paying her to
sign a confidentiality agreement in twenty fifteen tied to her
sexual assault and abuse allegations against him. Black has countered
that she signed the NDA in exchange for twenty one
(15:15):
million dollars to keep quiet about their six year long
consensual affair. So you're gonna pay twenty one million dollars
to keep your affair silent? Really as if nobody else
knew that you were having this affair. He wants us
to believe that the twenty one million was just for
the silence, had nothing to do with the fact that,
(15:37):
according to her, you were an abusive asshole force yourself
upon her. Has nothing to do with that, right, twenty
one million.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Just for her to keep quiet.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Pretty sure your wife already knew, you know, your sick wife,
that you were supposedly retiring to spend more time with,
you piece of shit scumbag. You know, I take that personally, folks,
by the way, as somebody who sat around and watched
his beautiful, full, incredibly in shaped chick gets sick. And
by the way, who do you think shaved her head?
(16:09):
To think that their scumbags out there that would defy
the sanctity of whatever relationship that they're in with their
sick chicken bed by going out and trying to score
some strange is just absolutely beyond me, and it makes
me mentally so mad. I can't even begin to explain
to you how maddening that is to me. Be a man,
(16:32):
Be a fucking man, step up to the plate. All
the money in the world, all the power in the world,
that doesn't make you a man. The way you conduct
yourself in front of the rights and when they're off,
especially when they're off, that's what makes you a man.
And a bitch like Leon Black treats his wife like that,
(16:55):
cheats on her while she's sick. Especially that ain't no man.
It's the kind of dude that will get smacked right
in the face by Don Corleone, and seeking to prove
that he was the victim, Black on Monday filed a
fifty two page countersuit against Ganieva that points to recordings
(17:15):
he claims he racked up of Ganieva's sometimes paranoid explanations
for why she should be paid to quietly walk away
from the affair. So, according to Black, he's like, look,
this was all consensual. She was really into me because
you know, I'm such a good looking dude.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Have you seen Leon Black?
Speaker 3 (17:35):
If it wasn't for the money, dudes, hand wouldn't even
want anything to do with him. So really, so, according
to him, it was just you know, it was all consensual,
and now this is just a big shakedown because she
wants my money. Shut up, man. The suit alleges one
(17:58):
recording had Ganieva complaining several billionaires were threatening her and
might be involved in a conspiracy against her, including a
reference that the Post has confirmed is to Zuckerman, the
real estate developer who bought the US News and World
Report in nineteen eighty four. Well, is it beyond the
realm of possibility that all of these billionaires were in
(18:20):
on it together. Look, I don't know if that's the case.
Right again, I don't know. I wasn't there. There's not
years of documentation here to back things up or to
pooh pooh things. So you know, I'm willing to follow
the evidence like usual, wherever it goes. But Leon Black
is a straight scumbag, So I should believe you, mister
(18:44):
scumbag who's cheating on his sick wife. Yeah. Sorry, not
exactly the sort of character that I search out when
I'm looking for honest folk.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So yeah, look, guess what.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
At this point with stuff like this, it's all gonna
be opinion based, right. People are gonna chase their confirmation biases.
People are gonna say, yeah, Leon Black is one hundred
percent and guilty, all because they hate him. And you
know what, I don't blame you if you go that route,
because he is a scumbag me.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
All the way.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I'll follow the evidence, we'll see where it all goes
like usual. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna be uh
short of an opinion of the man. This dude made
his own bed. Nobody told him to break bread with
Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Nobody.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
I wouldn't even be talking about this little dumpy, fat
prick if it wasn't for Jeffrey Epstein. So again, this
is all These are all self inflicted wounds for all
of these people. They have no one to blame but themselves.
They're finally being called out onto the carpet after all
of these years of their willy nilly bitch ass relationships
with Jeffrey Epstein. They're finally being called on the carpet,
(19:57):
and they're all running for cover, buying up the pick
that are out there of them with Epstein or Maxwell,
like straight bitches. That's what pitches do, folks. They don't
face their issues. They run from them. They don't stand
up like men or women. They run like cowards in chumps,
and that's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
At the core of it. That's what all bullies.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Are, right, cowards and chumps. And Epstein all of his friends,
all of the pitch ass intelligence agents or whoever else
we're working with them, You're all cowards. You're all chumps.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I said it, pitch ass cowards, all of you, ghanie Ava.
Ghanie Ava also claimed that one of those billionaires who
had given her a job as a writer for his
publication was making fun of her and had also threatened
to fire her unless she slept with him. According to
(20:52):
Black's Manhattan State Court lawsuit, Now again we're talking about
the world of scummy billionaires. It's beyond one of these guys,
one of these scumbags who grew up in this environment
for all of these years, where it was okay to
think that this lady, this missus Ganieva, because she has
a job writing for them, has to sleep with them.
(21:13):
It was like part of it, right, It's like the
first night rights in the old days, when you would
get married, but the lord would come by and he'd
get to have the first tumble with your wife. That's
how these guys live their lives. It's like they run
their own little mini fiefdoms and they're these feudal lords,
(21:35):
and forever we've just accepted it as a populist right. Ah,
they're rich, they're just eccentric. Well, no, eccentric is you
know other people? Okay not.
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Speaker 3 (22:15):
Not these scumbags that we're talking about. A source close
to the situation said the billionaire publisher referenced is Zuckerman,
who is now in failing health but still owns the
magazine after selling The New York Daily News in twenty
and seventeen. So again, This is a world very very
(22:38):
deeply connected. All of these billionaires run together, all of them.
There's only what like twenty seven hundred billionaires in the
whole world or something like that.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
It's a very exclusive group, and.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
They're all bumping shoulders and rubbing shoulders and all hanging
out with each other. Ganieva's byline is indeed attached to
two articles for US News and World Report in twenty fourteen,
including a May story on Obamacare titled Obamacare Enrollies by
the Numbers and an April story on climate change titled
(23:11):
top ten reasons to Worry about climate Change. No other
news articles were uncovered under Ganieva's byline for that or
any other publication. So The New York Post has chased
it down a bit.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Here.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
They've done the proper journalistic work. And I got to
give the Post props, right. The Post takes some shit for,
you know, page six and being a bit of a
chatter column or you know, nonsense every now and then,
But they do a lot of good work, and they
have a lot of good pieces, and it's one of
the publications that I roll through every morning just to
(23:45):
take a look at what's going on and you know,
also from being from New York, I like to get
a little, a little feel for what the deal is.
Not a fan of the New York Times, as you
well know. I like the Daily News. I think that's
a fine paper. Nothing wrong with that paper. But the
New York Times is just part of the problem in
my opinion.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
But I digress.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Eric Gertler, a Zuckerman relative who speaks for him, referred
questions to US News and World Reports spokeswoman Maria Santucci.
Santucci said, ooh, these allegations are baseless over a a
and designed to deflect the tension from the litigant's own actions.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
Forget about it, all right.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
She didn't really say that, but you know that's my
little Italian spin on it. She said, these allegations are
baseless and designed to deflect attention from a litigant's own actions.
And that's really what it is.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
This is Leon Black trying to muck things up, trying
to drop a little murk in the water. Let's make
it a little cloudier so nobody can see the destination.
Just swim around all day, bumping into each other. Bring
some other people into it. We'll say this guy was involved.
We'll say that guy was involved, and you know everything
will be hunky dory. Some lawyers speculated that Black is
(25:05):
sending a signal to powerful people who may have had
ties to Gannieva, welcome or not, that they better help
shut her up or they could all suffer. Definitely, this
is a powerplay, folks, one hundred percent, without a doubt.
This is a flex by Leon Black. This is what
they do. They are in the business of intimidation. Look
(25:26):
at how that Ronan Pharaoh character was intimidated by people
following them in shit. That's how they roll there. Used
to be in the tough guy there, used to be
in a one call in the shots. They think they're
the shot caller on the yard, as it were, and
forever they have been. But things are starting to change.
(25:48):
People don't fear them as much anymore. People aren't scared
of their bullshit nonsense anymore. And most importantly, we're all
hipped to their narrative. So when they start to pitch it,
we see, we eat right through it right away, and
we absolutely body it, and they don't know how to
(26:08):
deal with that. The reference is to let others know
that they are going to get dragged into this and
they may want to put pressure on her to drop
the case, Opine Stephn Borton of Boyd Law Group, which
has worked for both sexual harassment victims and defendants. As
long as they are doing it this way, it is
(26:28):
not witness tampering. Borton said, they didn't name him, although
they came close. And this is the games they play,
right again, this is what I'm talking about. When you
pay for a lawyer, this is what you're paying for.
So if you're gonna be out there, look, let me
be very clear. If you're out there running the streets
and you're causing trouble and you're gonna get into a
situation that might end you up in jail, you better
(26:50):
have enough money to pay for a lawyer. Don't think
that you're gonna go in there with a public defender
and you're not gonna get your wings clip, homie, you
are so unless you're hard enough to deal with the repercussions,
and most of us aren't, don't play the game. And
this Leon Black is pulling everybody in, pulling out all
(27:11):
the stops right as much deflection as he can possibly
come up with. Another lawyer who asked not to be identified,
said the former Apollo head. May be seeking to suss
out whether Ganieva had signed NDA's with anyone else. Maybe
he wants to show she shook everyone down, said the lawyer,
(27:32):
who was not involved in the case. Why did he
finger a mort unless the defense will be that she
is a grifter, shakedown artist, extraordinary speculated. So again, if
that comes out, then we'll.
Speaker 4 (27:43):
Have to see.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
But my gut tells me that's just some garbage bs.
Leon Black is thrown out there, that his team's throwing
out there to try and to try and throw shade
over this whole thing and throw a little bit of
cold water on it before it steams.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Up too hot.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Reps for both Black and Ghanieva declined comment. Gnieva sued
Black for defamation in June after he denied her sexual
assault claims to The Post in April by saying she
was trying to extort him. Ganieva's claims come as Black
has come under the microscope for his ties to dead
pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Way to go New York Post call
(28:22):
him a pedophile and again, I just I stated that earlier.
If it wasn't for Jeffrey Epstein and his ties to
that scumbag. I wouldn't even be talking about this man
right now. How many cases do we have running through
the courts of this nature right I'm not interested in
following these kinds of cases for the most part, But
when they wrap up into the Jeffrey Epstein case, well,
(28:44):
you find yourself squarely on the radar there, mister Black,
and it's probably not the most comfortable place to be.
Apollo in January revealed an independent investigation, oh independent investigation
was it, showing that Black I could pay at Epstein
one hundred and fifty eight million dollars for tax advice
and estate planning services between twenty thirteen and twenty and seventeen,
(29:09):
after Epstein had pleaded guilty in two thousand and eight
for procuring an underage girl for prostitution.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
What a great pal. Huh.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
You know, Jeff, you're a level three sex offender. But
that's okay. Here's one hundred and fifty eight million dollars. Boy,
I feel good about myself. So why should I think
that a fellow traveler of Jeffrey Epstein's is not capable
of sexually assaulting missus Ganieva? Why should I think that
for a minute. That would be like me thinking that
somebody who's hanging out down at the Ravenite Social Club
(29:38):
is not also in on the mafia. Griff, give me
a break already. Okay, I'm so tired of them bullshitting
and trying to just cause the cognitive dissonance. I'm not biting. Okay,
We're gonna lock on, and that's exactly what we've done.
We have locked on. You know, like when a pitbull
grabs onto something and starts at the headshake. That's where
(29:58):
we're at right now. We have our our jaw is
locked onto this and we're starting to shake our head.
Black has said he was only guilty of poor judgment
in his dealings with Epstein. He also referenced his extremely
poor judgment in his July countersuit against Ganieva. So the
poor judgment, Huh. You were control of billions and billions
and billions of dollars of people's money, but you had
(30:20):
poor judgment. Huh. Apollo Global was the megafirm, top notch,
nobody better, but you had bad decision making. Shut up, man.
You chose to be with Jeffrey Epstein because you loved
what he brought to the table. That's what happened. Zuckerman
(30:41):
is also connected to Epstein a bit pre conviction. The
duo made an unsuccessful bid to buy New York Magazine
in two thousand and three, and teamed again a year
later to invest in Radar Magazine, which later became Radar Online.
There is no indication that Zuckerman was involved in or
was aware of Epstein's sexual crimes. Ganieva, too had met Epstein.
(31:04):
According to sources with knowledge of the situation, this is
just the beginning of this, folks, the tip of the iceberg,
and this whole Leon Black situation is going to reveal
a whole lot if it gets to trial. And I
have a funny feeling that missus Ganieva is going for
gusto here. She's definitely looking it's definitely looking like she's
(31:24):
looking to expose all of this bullshit. And if it
gets to trial and it goes to discovery, it's gonna
be big trouble, big trouble for Leon Black and the
rest of his buddies. Now will that trouble result in
any jail time or anything, Who knows, But at the
very least these people will be persona non grata in public.
(31:52):
If this was a Rico case, the Jeffrey Epstein case,
that is, well, this would be a whole different discussion.
But unfortunately, folks, there's no signs of Rico yet and.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
We are where we are.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But with that said, it's nice to see the mask
at least get pulled off a little bit of these
scumbags so called elites. It's nice to see Jeffrey Epstein's
friends squarely under the microscope, and it'll be really nice
to see some more indictments. If you'd like to contact me,
you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at Protonmeil dot com.
(32:29):
That's bo bb Y c ap you Cci at Protonmeil
dot com. You can also find me on Twitter at
Bobby Underscore c ap u Cci. You can find the
Jeffrey Epstein Show also on Facebook. There's a pretty vibrant
conversation that goes on on the page, so head on
(32:50):
over there, join on up.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Check it out.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
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