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October 16, 2025 54 mins
Ghislaine Maxwell has given at least two notable interviews or testimony sessions while incarcerated, each stirring sharp debate over her motive and trustworthiness. In a televised prison interview, she expressed regret that she “wished she never met” Jeffrey Epstein, and insinuated that some widely circulated photographs involving her and others—especially the one with Prince Andrew and Virginia Giuffre—were not authentic or had been manipulated. During that interview, she portrayed herself as a fall-guy, blamed media exaggeration, and consistently denied involvement in recruiting minors

In her prison interview with Daphne Barak, Ghislaine Maxwell repeatedly framed her relationship with Jeffrey Epstein as a profound mistake. She called meeting him “the greatest mistake of my life,” said her arrest in 2020 and denial of bail came as a total shock, and insisted she had never intended to flee the U.S. justice system. Maxwell also attempted to cast doubt on a widely circulated photograph showing her smiling beside Prince Andrew and Virginia Giuffre, saying she “didn’t recognize” it and believed it was not genuine.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Today,
we're going to hear from Glaine Maxwell herself, who is
speaking out from behind bars for the first time. And
I find it a bit ironic that the journalist that
she's giving this interview to is none other than Daphne Barock.

(00:23):
That's right, relative of Ehud Barock, who I just got
done posting a three part series about. And the reason
I wanted to post that series before reading this article
was so that you all had some context and some
backstory about who Ehud Barock is and was. So it

(00:44):
shouldn't shock anybody that Glainne Maxwell would be giving his
kinsman this interview. You think it's just out of thin
air that Daphne Barrock gets this interview and not say
insert a American journalist here. Course not. They're looking for
somebody who's gonna be sympathetic to the cause, right, somebody

(01:07):
who is gonna give Golion Maxwell a fair or shake,
and who better to do that than the relative of
one of Jeffrey Epstein's big homies. At who Barrock? Now?
Because she's related to Barack, right, doesn't automatically mean that
you know she's shifty, but we're for optics purposes. You

(01:33):
couldn't find a different reporter. It's almost as if these
people are just so brazen that they do these things
on purpose to thumb their nose at you and say, look,
guess what, We don't care what you think. We're gonna
do whatever we want whenever we want to do it.
And there is nothing that you, the children of never,
can do to us, the men of always, And it

(01:58):
just goes on and on and on and on, and
that has been the cycle for way too long. But
now Maxwell rotting behind bars less than two weeks away
from going to trial, and the time for all of
that BS is surely behind us. So now Maxwell for

(02:22):
the first time is speaking out through Daphne Barock and
giving her account of what her stay in jail has
been like. So as we get ready for the day
Jerry selection and the new news to come rolling in,
I figured we'd start off with a bit of context

(02:42):
here and a bit of information about Glene Maxwell's stay
in the clink. So with that said, let's jump into
this article from the Daily Mail, and it was offered
authored by Daphne Barrock, headline world exclusive, Glene Maxwell tells

(03:04):
all from inside her US prison, Aris says, I am weak, frail, tired,
and don't even have shoes that fit. God's feed me
rotten food and one had apple had maggots in it. Sorry,
my English accent isn't great, but you get the drift.
And she certainly didn't look weak or frail or any

(03:24):
of that at the trial yesterday. She looked great. She
sure had some shoes that fitter didn't. She had herself
on a nice little Hillary Clinton style suit. She was
rocking and rolling. So what is she talking about? Is
she mad that she's not sitting around in Louis Vatan
in her jail cell or as Tony Soprano would say,

(03:45):
Louis Voitan. Is she mad that she's not hanging out
with you know, the cores people. What does she expect?
She's in jail. There's no designer clothes for jail. You're
gonna get what everybody else gets, and you're going to
like it. And as far as the food goes breaking news,

(04:06):
you're not at the Waldorf. The food's not going to
be great. And I don't discount honestly that the food
is terrible there. I've heard from several people who have
done time in federal institutions, lock ups in prison, and
they all say the same thing. The food is not good.
But guess what, you're not there for a five course meal.

(04:29):
You're not there to sit down and have whatever a
French chef is offering you. You're there because, in her case,
she is being accused of Heinu's crimes. So yeah, we
don't want to hear about your food selection, and we
don't really care to be honest with you, like I said.
This article is authored by Daphne Barack. Glenn Maxwell has

(04:51):
spoken for the first time about her living in her
living hell behind bars, claiming that she has been assaulted
and abused by prison guards, deprived of sleep, and given
rotting food to eat. Oh yeah, she's been abused by
prison guards. There's cameras on twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week. So if she was being abused,
why wouldn't her lawyers get that videotape and give it

(05:14):
to Judge Nathan. Let's see it. And this is what
I'm talking about. They'll op the skate, they'll say things
that aren't true, they'll conflate issues, and they will get
involved with lies of omission on a regular when you're
talking about Glaine Maxwell's defense team, nobody's abusing you in jail.
Stop it. You know who got abused in jail, Khalif Browder.

(05:35):
That's who got abused in jail, not you, Ghlaine Maxwell.
In a World Exclusives, Miss Maxwell, who had her twenty
one million dollar bail application denied for the fourth time
last week, also claims negative media coverage while she has
been in custody and the deliberate withholding of evidence have
made it impossible for her to receive a fair trial.

(05:59):
What do you mean withholding of evidence? You guys have
gotten over one point two million pages of evidence. Something
in that realm? And negative media coverage, what do you
think it's going to be glowing? Do you think that
you were out here creating, you know, pathways for the

(06:19):
neural membranes of the brain to reprogram themselves. After someone
has Alzheimer's, you're supposed to be cheered and hoisted up
into society. What do you mean bad media coverage? You're
accused of hurting children? What do you expect? As Sebastian
Maniscalco would say, people, I mean, is she for real?

(06:42):
Of course the media is gonna look at you in
a horrible way. You were running around with Jeffrey Epstein,
participating in his crimes, allegedly and most certainly enabling him.
So yeah, the media coverage is gonna be bad. But
guess what. You're lucky, Glenn Maxwell. The media isn't the
one who decides your fate. That's going to be a

(07:04):
jury of your peers. Well not your peers, because according
to you and your friends, people like us and the
potential jurors are all scumbags, useless, and nothing more than chattel.
But a jury of peers anyway. Speaking from her ten

(07:24):
foot by twelve foot prison cell inside New York's notorious
Metropolitan Detention Center, where she has spent the past sixteen
months in solitary confinement, Miss Maxwell said, I have been
assaulted and abused for almost a year and a half. Well,
you are assaulting and abusing people for decades, so guess
what you reap what you sew your chickens come home

(07:47):
to roost. And furthermore, you're not being abused. Okay, stop
with the bull. Are you comfortable? No? Is where you're at?
A fun place to be? No? What I want to
be there? No? Does that mean you're being abused. No,
I have not had a nutritious, nutritious meal. In all

(08:07):
that time, I have slept without lights on fluorescent lights
that have damaged my eyes, or been allowed to sleep
without constant interruptions. I have not had a nutritious meal
and all that time. Welcome to being poor. You really
think anyone has any sympathy for you, Gulen Maxwell, You didn't.

(08:27):
You haven't had a nutritious meal the whole time. Stop it.
You know how many countless kids haven't had a meal
right now as we speak, going off to school starving
to death. So miss me with all of your woe
is me bull I honestly, folks have no compassion for
this woman, And it's very rare for me because usually

(08:48):
when people are in prison, I have compassion for them,
even if they're convicted murderers. I have compassion for the situation,
right like nobody wants to be in prison. You gotta
suffer through it. You committed the that's the way it goes.
But that doesn't mean that I have to like the
conditions that we find inside of the prison system, because
I do not. But at the same time, those are

(09:11):
the rules that we're playing by and until those rules
are changed, Maxwell's just gonna have to suffer through like
every other poor person who has ever walked through the
doors of that jail. I am weak, I am frail,
I have no stamina, I am tired. I don't even
have shoes which fit properly. They feed me you rotten food.

(09:33):
One apple had maggots in it. I have not been
allowed to exercise. Well, you need to get on the program.
Ten sets of eighty eight burpies in your jail cell.
Let's go push ups in your jail cell. Let's go
run in place in your jail cell. Let's go whole
bunch of things. She can be doing, she's choosing not to.
So when she says I can't even stay in shape,

(09:55):
well you should be programming. You have nothing but time
in that jail cell, so program use it wisely, work out,
do some burpies, do some pushups. But please, whatever you do,
shut up while you're doing it. MS Maxwell, who faces

(10:17):
the rest of her life behind bars if convicted of
abusing and procuring young girls for billionaire financier Jeffrey Epstein.
Pedophile Jeffrey Epstein charges that she denies claims a friendly
rat routinely sat next to her on an open sewer
as she went to the toilet. You're in prison. There's
a bunch of rats all around you. What are you

(10:38):
talking about, Oh you mean the fairy kind. Oh that's
all right. Well, at least you had some company, like
minded company, right, a little disgusting creature that runs through
the underbelly of society, you know, eating whatever they want,
doing whatever they want. Yeah, kind of like you, Glene.
So it's perfect. She has stopped taking showers as creepy

(10:58):
guards stare at her. Oh stop it, you look like Golum.
Nobody's out here staring at you, Glane Maxwell doesn't. Nobody
wants to see the goods. Okay, stop it right now.
In fact, I would be more concerned about the guard's
welfare if they were forced to look at you. Remember
in Game of Thrones when Melissange took the stone off

(11:18):
and turned into the old wrinkled woman. That's Glenn Maxwell.
In what I see when I think of Glenn Maxwell,
her mail has been tampered with, and she has been
purposely prevented from preparing for trial by being given vital
evidence too late. That's absolute ps. Stop it. The jury
pool has been so tainted by the continuous slurs against

(11:40):
her character, she believes it will be virtually impossible to
get a fair trial. Ah well, maybe your friend daf
Need Barack here from the Daily Mail will be able
to help you run a nice little campaign, a little
woe is Me story for Glene Maxwell. Guess what nobody cares,
not me, not anybody. Some will say that a woman

(12:05):
accused of sexually abusing young women, including a fourteen year
old girl, deserves no sympathy. Others will argue that the
American justice system is inhumane. And when she says others,
Daphne Brock means her and I do agree that the
criminal justice system can be in humane, there's no doubt
about it. But that doesn't mean anything here. So what

(12:25):
we're supposed to change the whole system right now? Because
Gallagne Maxwell's in there, What about all of your friends
that were in prison, My friends that were in prison,
What about Khalif Browder and the countless others like him?
Where was all of this talk then, when you had power,
when you had money, when you had influence, Now that
you're rotting away in a jail cell, this is a
big problem. The system is broken, breaking news. It's always

(12:49):
been broken for people like me. Either way, she remains
innocent in the eyes of the law before her trial.
That is one hundred percent right. Even though I'm of
the opinion that Glenn Maxwell did this shit. Until she
is convicted, she is innocent in the eyes of the law.
There's no dispute about that. At fifty nine, the Gallain

(13:13):
of today is a far cry from the glamorous woman
who was once a fixture on the international social scene,
where she mingled with world leaders such as Bill Clinton
and was close friends with royalty, including Prince Andrew. Well,
guess what whereas you're setting that up as a sob story,
Daphne Brock, I'm looking at it as squandered opportunity. Imagine

(13:35):
squandering great wealth and great privilege like this by hanging
out with a scumbag like Jeffrey Epstein and partaking in
his criminal activity. You ain't got nobody to blame but yourself.
Never have to wake up in the morning, get your
thermis ready, get your lunch ready, get your hammer and
your tool belt. You don't know what it's like, no

(13:57):
idea what it's like. So I don't care about your situation.
I don't care that you know you once mingled with
world leaders and now you're in jail. Well you deserve
to be there. In my opinion, today, the designer outfits
have been replaced by the shapeless overalls of prisoner two
eight seven nine Dash five zero nine. Her trademark hair,

(14:22):
once a coughed by French stylist Frederick Focai, is streaked
with gray and fashioned into a shoulder length style she
managed to craft using toenail clippers while peering into a
three inch by five inch hand mirror. Oh yeah, right,
shut up? Is Daphne now, Daphne barack for real? Running?
This was Uncle Ehud over your shoulder while you wrote this?

(14:46):
Daphne talk about a puff piece holy cow. Despite her
grim surroundings, she manages to force a smile as she
describes how prison guards were so impressed by her hair
dressing skills that they gave her paper cutting scissors and
joked that she should open her own salon. Wait, I
thought they were abusing her and beating her, but they're

(15:06):
giving her paper haircutting scissors. Hmm. Interesting, So which is it, Glaine?
Are you being abused or are the guards encouraging you
to start a new career. Can't be both, can it?
But the harsh reality for a woman dubbed the socialite
not here, co conspirator, general, all around scusbag, child abuser,

(15:30):
and bipedal serpent, a term she fiercely objects to, has
been what she describes as a living hell ever since
more than twenty armed FBI agents swooped on her fifteen
or excuse me, one hundred and fifty six acre New
Hampshire home in July of twenty twenty. I mean, are
you for real? You're in a living hell? What about

(15:51):
all of the people that are accusing you of these crimes?
What about all of the people that you allegedly did
this to? How about how bad their lives are? And honestly,
you will get zero tears from me about Glene Maxwell's circumstances.
She made her bed, she has to lie in it.
She has remained in custody ever since, surviving mostly on

(16:13):
a diet of rice and beans, with unsalted peanuts for
protein and mayonnaise for fat. Her arrest came eleven months
after Epstein, her ex boyfriend, co conspirator, general, all around
scumbag and longtime friend and pedophile killed himself in jail
allegedly while facing child sex charges. Until Epstein's suicide, allegedly,

(16:36):
Maxwell had never faced any criminal charges. So what she's
trying to see, See what Daphne Brock's doing here in
this article. She's trying to throw it into question. Why
is Gallayne being caught for Jeffrey's crimes? Well, because she partook. Okay,
she was involved, she helped, she facilitated. I mean, do

(16:57):
you need to do some more research here, Daphne Brock,
Maybe a start at the first episode of The Jeffrey
Epstein Show and have yourself a nice listen for fifteen
hundred episodes. Might learn something. Because this article is nothing
but pumping of the tires of a family friend. Her

(17:17):
lawyers are expected to argue she is being punished by
proxy for Epstein's hay and his crimes, because, as one
source close to the case maintains, someone has to pay
for what he did. No, and that's what this is
all about. Remember who we're dealing with, folks, the legacy media.
This is what they do. They'll try and throw doubt
into this whole thing for their buddy Galaine. And you

(17:38):
see it with Daphney Barack here. But unfortunately for them,
in the old days, an article like this would run
and you'd all read it and be like, oh, what
a bunch of garbage. But now an article like this
runs and there are a ton of content creators and
others who dive on in. Maxwell told friends, I fear

(18:02):
it will be impossible to get a fair trial. I
have tremendous fear that overwhelmingly negative media stories will poison
my jury pool and affect the outcome of my trial,
despite the evidence that will demonstrate everything the jurors thought
they knew isn't true. I look forward to finally having
my day in court to prove I played no part
in Epstein's crimes. Well, you could have had your day

(18:24):
in court back in two thousand and eight, two thousand
and seven, two thousand and nine. What happened then? Why
were you protected under that non prosecution agreement if you're innocent.
She doesn't want her day in court. She doesn't want
to be in court. She used technicalities and loopholes, every
last one of them you can imagine, to try and
avoid this. She cannot discuss the specifics of her case

(18:49):
on the advice of her powerful legal team. Jerry's selection
begins tomorrow, which was yesterday, with the trials starting on
November twenty ninth. The charges are grave. US authorities have
described her as a procurer of underage girls for convicted
pedophile Epstein. She also faces multiple felony charges, including transporting
a miner for the purposes of criminal sexual activity and

(19:12):
conspiring to entice miners to travel to engage in illegal
sex acts. Now, my question is, why isn't the Man
Act used here? Why isn't she slapped with that bad
boy as well? She deserves it if anybody does. The
Man Act was put into place to help for people
who were being trafficked federally across state lines, but yet

(19:34):
no Man Act here. Maxwell's trial will also put Prince
Andrew's relationship with her and Epstein back under the spotlight.
The Duke of York's accuser, Virginia Roberts, who claims she
was trafficked to Andrew three times, the first when she
was seventeen and under the legal age of consent, has
vowed to attend the trial and look, it's going to

(19:57):
be a mega There is no doubt about it, zero
chance that it is not a mega trial. There is
going to be a ton of people there. People who
are supporting the survivors, people who are not supporting the survivors.
It's going to be quite an event this trial. The

(20:24):
article goes on to say, I'm gonna skip down. There's
some stuff about Andrew not relevant to what we're talking about,
So I'm gonna skip back to skip down a little
bit to the stuff about Golaine. She says that, uh,
this is now, excuse me, this is about Kallaine Maxwell

(20:45):
and how she first met Glaane. I first met Glaine
in nineteen ninety two when I interviewed her mother, Robert
Maxwell's widow Betty, following the tycoon's extraordinary death off the
coast of Tenorith, just before it was discovered he plundered
his news papers pension funds. Now, I posted the first
two episodes of the Robert Maxwell story, so you can

(21:08):
check those out and get an idea of who he is.
Part three I'm getting ready to post as soon as
we're done with this episode. Galaine had just relocated to
New York and joined her grieving mother at the Plaza Hotel.
Galane was pretty. She was smart and articulate, yet She
also seemed vulnerable. She was daddy's little girl and clearly

(21:28):
grieving deeply. And this is the setup here, folks, all right,
this is where they're setting it up for Gallaine Maxwell
to be looked at as a victim. Do not buy it.
At the time, she told me she was living in
a small studio on Manhattan's Uper East Side, given to
me by a friend, Jeffrey. She was working on certain
things to make money. I must make money, as she

(21:49):
put it. She went on, of course, to live a
glamorous jet set life, moving between Epstein's homes in Florida,
his New York mansion, the biggest private home in Manhattan,
his private Caribbean island, and his ranch in New Mexico.
She also ended up owning a New York townhouse, which
she sold for twelve million dollars, and having a successful career,

(22:10):
including founding Tera Marr, a charity focused on the oceans.
I mean, are you kidding me? Look at this buff piece.
This is hilarious, folks. And look how little that Daphne
Barack can even point to that makes you look at
Gleaine Maxwell as a decent person. Oh. She started a
couple of businesses oh, she was doing this or that?
What has she ever really contributed to society? I reconnected

(22:37):
with Glaine three months ago when my friend Susan Zorinsky,
the first female president of CBS News, asked me to
get involved with a major new documentary, Glaine, a four
hour show which will air on ITV in the UK
and CBS Paramount Plus at the end of the six
week trial. With my partner Herbal Genosti, I've interviewed members

(22:58):
of Maxwell's family, including brother Kevin and Isabelle. Kevin and
sister Isabelle, have spoken to friends, and have obtained exclusive
quotes from Glaine herself. Okay, great, I can't wait to
hear it all. So we can come back and I
can do another episode and I can just absolutely dissect
it piece by piece like we're doing right here. She said.

(23:24):
In my most recent court appearance, I was in leg
irons for more than twelve hours and had to climb
up and downstairs with my arms and legs shackled to
my waist. My ankles are raw, whatever, whatever. So we're
supposed to feel sorry for you because you're in jail
and you're shackled. Sorry, I don't now other people might,

(23:45):
but I don't, you know. I feel bad for the
poor people in jail who don't have access to these
high profile lawyers, who don't have millions of dollars to
protect themselves. I've been given food so overnooked it looked
like Chernobyl after the nuclear fallout. The salads are wilted
with mold, and apple had maggots. They gave me a black,

(24:06):
soggy banana. There was bread so wet water came out
when you squeezed it. I used to take a shower
every day, but I've stopped because the creepy guards who
stand close and stare at me the whole time, that's
their job. I used to go to the loo with
an open sewer drain, and a friendly rat would regularly visit.
I told the guards, but nothing was done until the

(24:27):
rat popped out and charged a guard who screamed in terror.
Finally the sewer drain was covered. I don't believe that
that happened, all right, Sorry, I don't believe our rat
popped out and the guard ran in terror. It's ridiculous,
and she's once again telling stories. She claims guards tried
to intimidate her on one occasion. She says she was

(24:48):
accused of having a legal contraband after she spilled the
painkiller tile and all prescribed by a prison doctor onto
the floor. Another time her reading glasses were broken. She added,
I was laughing at some absurd rule, and the guard said,
there is nothing funny here. I'll teach you what it's
like to be a prisoner. He threatened me with discipline,
and that would have resulted in no contact with my

(25:11):
lawyers for a month. I was also threatened with punishment
when I used a hair tie to secure my legal documents.
And it goes on to, you know, say some other stuff,
but it's a little long winded, so we're not gonna
get into the rest of it. But you get an
idea here of what Daphne Baraque is up to, what
Glene Maxwell's people are up to, and how they're trying

(25:33):
to posit her for this trial coming up, as if
she is a victim, as if she is somebody that
has been abused by Epstein and victimized by Epstein, when
in reality, the picture certainly is painted in a different hue,
and that picture, that puzzle, when it's put together, certainly

(25:55):
makes Glain Maxwell out as a Monster as well. If
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(26:19):
All of the links that I discussed can be found
in the description box. All right, folks, I'll be back
later on and we will pick up there. What's up everyone,
and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So Glaine Maxwell
has given her first interview since she's been incarcerated, and
shockingly enough, the outlet to get it is The Sun. Now.

(26:42):
I've been telling you, folks for I don't know years
now that it's amazing to me that the Sun and
the Daily Mail had to run point here to go
after Andrew, to expose Jeffrey Epstein, Glaine Maxwell and what
was going on over in London. You would think that
some of the papers of record, such as I don't know,

(27:05):
the Gray Lady, the Washington Post, the Telegraph over in England, whatever,
you would think that they would be more gung ho
to dive in here, get these interviews, expose all of this.
But that's never been the case. And it's been outlets
like The Sun and The Daily Mail leading the charge.

(27:26):
So that shows you just how terrible and just what
sort of disrepair that the legacy media finds itself in
these days. They're much more interested in trying to divide.
They're much more interested in telling you that your neighbor's
an asshole than they are of exposing shit like what
was going on with Epstein and Maxwell. Now, obviously you

(27:50):
can do with that what you will. If you still
want to believe them, if you still think that they
have your best interest at heart, hey go for it.
I'm not here to try and tell anyone what they
should believe or what they should do. I feel like
what our job here is is to open a few doors,
and if you decide you want to go through those doors, great,

(28:11):
here's the source for you to do it, and here
are all the resources that you might need. Besides that,
whatever you think or whatever your opinions are, I respect that.
But for me, I think one of the biggest failures
out of all of this is that the legacy media
couldn't just stuff their bias, couldn't just stuff their relationships

(28:33):
with all of these people and actually pursue this the
way that it should have been pursued. So what it
did was it opened the door for outlets like The
Sun and outlets like the Daily Mail to not only
cover this story and really open up a couple of doors,
but to get scoops. And we see that once again
today as the US Sun has absolutely scooped everybody and

(28:59):
they have Maxwell's first interview from jail. And it should
be of no shock to anybody that the person doing
the interviewing is Daphnee Barock. We know who her dad is,
Ehud Barock, right, we know the relationship, So I'm not
shocked at all that this is the person who got
the interview. With that said, why don't we just dive

(29:21):
right in and let's see exactly what the bipedal serpent
is crying about now. This article was published by the
US Sun and the headline my dear Andrew. I feel
so bad for dear friend Andrew, says Glain Maxwell in
first prison interviews since sex trafficking conviction. The author of

(29:42):
this article is Daphne Barock. I mean, imagine that's the headline.
If you're Prince Andrew right now, imagine you wake up
and you see that's the headline. What you want to
do at this point, I'm guessing is crawl right back
into bed and cuddle up with the Corgi's because coming
out and dealing with the real world after you got
Maxwell out here calling you her dear friend, probably not

(30:03):
gonna be fun. In a World exclusive interview from the
prison where she is serving twenty years for trafficking teenage girls,
she confessed, I feel so bad for him. I follow
what is happening to him talking about her dear friend Andrew.
So she follows what's happening to him right from prison.
But I thought she couldn't do any of that. I

(30:25):
thought that she was in the gulag. I thought that
they dropped her in Guantanamo Bay. Isn't that what she
was telling us? Maxwell sixty appeared shaken when told the
Prince's lawyers had claimed they were never close, before adding, sadly,
I accept that this friendship could not survive my conviction.

(30:46):
You know what crime a river? This is me playing
the world's smallest violin right now. Nobody cares about your
bullshit friendship with Prince Andrew. You conniving, disgusting human being
or bipedal serpent. I should say, oh, your poor friendship
with Andrew is ruined. How about the girls? Okay, how
about all the lives you ruined throughout all of the

(31:08):
years you were active with your disgusting friend Jeffrey Epstein.
He is paying such a high price for association. I
consider him a dear friend. I care about him. So
is there a message here to Prince Andrew, some sort
of underlying message to Prince Andrew. Look, I still support you,
I still love you. Some kind of weird ass set

(31:31):
up for the next season of Love After lock Up?
Is that what we're getting set up here for? Gallainne
Maxwell is going to be on the show, her and
Prince Andrew. Boy, that'll make great TV. Huh. You want
to talk about car crash reality television, folks, Well, there
you have it. It comes as the Duke of York
struggles to rescue his image in the face of hostile

(31:52):
public opinion and the heartbreak of his mother, the Queen's death. Again,
it's hilarious that Daphne Brock gets his interview. Of all people,
this is who you choose? Huh? You got to read
in between the lines, folks. Why would she choose Daphney Barock? Well,
friendly reporter. Right, we know that her dad and Robert
Maxwell were homies, and we know that Jeffrey Epstein and

(32:14):
Ehwud Barrock were homies. So by extension, my guess is
Golaine and Ehud Barock were homies as well. In two
explosive interviews, one of which was conducted face to face
in prison, Maxwell even told how she is now convinced
Andrew is a victim of faked evidence. Oh yeah, sure,

(32:36):
the picture's fake again. And this is why you can't
take Maxwell seriously and why she should have gotten more
than twenty years. She's not sorry about any of this.
She does not feel bad for what happened, and she
truly feels like she is the victim. She should have
got one hundred and forty fucking years. She also spoke
for the first time of her close friendships with former

(32:57):
US presidents Bill Clinton and Donald and her association with
the greatest regret of my life pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The
greatest regret of your life shouldn't have been your association
with Epstein. Okay, that should be one of them, But
your greatest regret should have been the pain that has
been caused to all of the people who were caught
up with your bullshit. But when you're stuck in your

(33:19):
own hubris, when you're a narcissist and you can't, you know,
think about other people, this is how you think. Oh,
my greatest regret is meeting Epstein because of the effect
it had on me. I cannot stand selfish motherfuckers, and
they're everywhere. The narcissism that we see on a regular

(33:40):
basis from people blows my mind. Our first meeting, conducted
as part of an upcoming CBS Paramount Plus special, took
place in June this year inside New York's notorious Metropolitan
Detention Center, followed by another lengthy interview conducted remotely from
her current jail in Florida. Hey, I wonder if Ghlaine

(34:03):
Maxwell would grant me an interview request. I'll give her
a chance to set the record straight. Right, who's been
more critical of her than me? So here's your chance, Glaine.
Have your people reach out, let's do this. Come on
the show, and I'll ask you some real fucking questions.
Speaking for the first time since her arrest in July
twenty twenty, Maxwell talked of her regrets over association with

(34:27):
billionaire financier, pedophile and sex abuser Epstein, claiming it had
turned her into a wicked witch, hate figure, and damage
though she loved and She also revealed she longs to
turn back the clock. Don't we all? Don't we all
wish we could turn back the clock. But guess what
we can't. You did what you did, You were involved

(34:48):
in what you were involved in, and instead of that,
you could have done great good in this world, Gallainne Maxwell.
You had the power, you had the influence, you had
all of the friendships built. But no, Instead you chose
to help Jeffrey Epstein abuse young girls, steal money, and
act like a general thug. So nobody cares that you

(35:11):
want to turn back the clock. Maybe if you wanted
to turn back the clock to help the survivors, then
that might be acceptable. But everything you talk about, everything
you do, is all motivated by one thing, selfishness. That's
how it's always been, That's how it will always be.
These people cannot get enough, folks, they cannot get enough,

(35:33):
you know, like the fish that'll just keep eating until
they die. That's how they are with their greed. These people,
the so called elite, are modern day robber barons. They
can never have enough. You want to talk about gluttonos.
I said in my court statement that meeting Epstein was
the greatest mistake of my life. Maxwell admits again that

(35:54):
is incorrect, and that is stupid to say. She should
have said the greatest regret of my life is that
these women were caused pain by any of the actions
that I was involved in. Have some serious remorse. But
she can't even look when you're a bipedal serpent, you
just can't do it. Remember the TV show V from
the eighties, the aliens that came here from whatever the

(36:15):
fucking planet they came from. Then you peeled off their
face and underneath it they were a serpent. That's Glenn
Maxwell in my opinion. Now, I don't think she came
from the stars, and I don't think she's really a serpent.
But you get my drift, right, You get what I'm
saying here. She's that vile of a person. And obviously,

(36:36):
if I could go back today, I would avoid meeting him,
and I would make different choices. Andrew was not the
only friend she lost over her links to the tycoon,
who was found dead in his cell age sixty six
in twenty nineteen while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.
Former US President Bill Clinton, who traveled on the Tycoons

(36:56):
Lolita Express private jet, was another relationship she valued, Look, fine,
he was on the jet. Great. But for me, I
think one of the biggest questions with Clinton that needs
to be answered is why was Epstein at the White
House seventeen times? Can anyone answer that for me? Can
you imagine if Epstein showed up to the White House

(37:16):
seventeen times and nobody has any qu answers for why.
I think that's a pretty important part of the story.
You know, it was a special friendship which continued over
the years, she said, Speaking of Clinton, we had lots
in common. I feel bad that he is another victim

(37:38):
only because of his association with Jeffrey. I understand he,
like others, can no longer consider me as a friend.
So again, it's all about them, right. It shows you
just how lost they all are and how far gone
they are in their decrepit. Thinking Prince Andrew's a victim,
Fucking Bill Clinton's a victim. Yeah, And I'm a billionaire

(38:00):
who's about to go out and spend five hundred grand
on my bets for football Sunday. Are you kidding me
right now? Victim? I got your victim right here of
Vafongul heavy Price. One of the few people to have
shown her any loyalty, she says, is former President Donald Trump.
I love this. She's thrown all these dudes under the

(38:21):
bus without throwing them under the bus. So all the
people out there that want to get out here and
talk politics about this shit, oh well, Trump is this
great freedom fighter who is fighting. No, he's not, okay,
Trump is doing what the rest of them do, trying
to increase his power, consolidate his power, and just packaging
it with a different message. If Trump and them wanted

(38:43):
to get down to the bottom of all of this,
they could have done it when they own the House,
the Senate, and the presidency. They didn't do it, did they,
sam As Biden, same as Obama, sam As Bush. We
can keep going if you want. And that should be
the take away that all of these scumbags were all involved,

(39:03):
they all enabled it, and that's just a fact. So
if you're trying to look for a political football here
or a mallet to hit your opponents over the head with,
I'm gonna have to advise that you find a different
topic for every single situation that you can talk about.
We can bring up a million people who were involved

(39:23):
from every which way, but loose. I mean, who do
you think got this guy off? It was the law
off as a Kirkland Dallas. Who do you think populates
that office? All of the very same people who were
helping out President Trump. So you see my point here
is there's nobody who doesn't have this funk on them,

(39:45):
None of these people who are running in these circles Trump,
Clinton or the rest of them. But I will say this, however,
the relationship that Maxwell and Epstein had with the Clintons
was on a different level than any other other relationship
that they had besides maybe Prince Andrew. And that's just
a fact as well. We knew each other and mingled

(40:09):
in the same circles in New York Palm Beach. I
was very grateful when he wished me well after the arrest.
He got bad media for it, but he dared while
others didn't. You got to listen to her words too.
You see the way she gushes about Prince Andrew and
gushes about Bill Clinton and says that her and Trump
mingled in the same circles. So what is she really
saying here? Again, you have to, you know, break it

(40:33):
down and read in between the lines. And remember, lies
of omission are still lies, So we have to take
it with a grain of salt everything Maxwell says, and
not for face value. We've learned that we have to
read in between the lines when these people are talking. Right.
I was honored he remembered me well. He is known

(40:54):
to say what he thinks, and it gave me a boost.
So for those of you out there who want to
think that what Trump said here wasn't a big deal,
it obviously was. Anytime that you're giving somebody like Maxwell
any sort of comfort or quarter, I have to say
something about that because it's disgusting. The answer should be
I have no idea what's going on In that case,

(41:16):
I'll let the Attorney general handle it. I hope that
all of the victims and survivors are taken care of
and they're having their needs. Their needs met, pretty simple, right,
But no, it has to be Oh, I wish her
well and guess what if you open the door, brother,
I'm walking right through it. Maxwell complained friends were canceled

(41:38):
just for knowing her. Yeah, that's how this works. There
were many people who have been impacted by this story,
she said. Friends of mine who never even met Epstein
lost their jobs. People who literally had nothing to do
with him whatsoever, have been canceled. Well, guilty biassociation. I'm
judged by who I know. Remember that song well fits
perfectly here, It doesn't it. You and your friends are

(42:03):
not victims. Please stop trying to set yourself up as such.
I mean, I can't believe it's five to ten in
the morning on a beautiful Sunday football morning and I
still have to sit here in the studio and tell
this lady to shut her mouth. Nobody believes her. You
want to do good here, Maxwell, you want to show
you care, Expose the whole last thing, tell us everything.

(42:29):
For all those people, I think it's been a very
heavy price that has been paid by the cancel culture.
It's been very difficult for a lot of people. All right,
let's get something clear, okay. Cancel culture is when you
get shut down for having an opinion. Cancel culture is
when you get shut down for going against the norm
of the narrative in society, and it's unacceptable. I've been very,

(42:52):
very upfront about how I feel about censorship. I think
it's bullshit. I think it's a coward's tool. And when
you pull a man's tongue out, you're telling the whole
world that you fear what they have to say. Me.
I prefer to meet stupidity head on. If you have
something dumb to say, well, I want to challenge your opinion.
I don't want you hiding in the back room with
a bunch of other in cells, growing your stupid ass

(43:14):
opinions in the shadows where we can ever challenge it.
And that's what happens when you use censorship. Right, But
this isn't that you've been canceled because you deserve to
be canceled. You're a sick, disgusting pedophile, molestic kids, convicted
of it, trafficked people, and anyone who associated with you
will they have that stain on them. Despite that, she

(43:38):
admitted she was hurt by the lack of loyalty from
so called friends, once desperate for a place in her
social circle. There are people who have disappointed me, and
there are people I'm surprised have not, you know, been
a little more proactive, she said. I completely understand people
have livelihoods to protect children, to protect. But having said that,
there are people who have stood by me privately, quite

(44:00):
a few, actually, and I'm extremely appreciative of their private support.
Oh okay, sure, I have an unnamed source. Shut up.
Nobody believes you, and anyone standing by you is just
as bad as you. I have friends who have literally
known me my entire life, since I was at kindergarten.

(44:21):
It's good to know there are people out there who
know who I am really. As for the others, Maxwell
believes that they have accepted a false version of her
as the wicked witch in Epstein's story. All this is
fictional version of me, she said. It has been created
to fit the storyline. It has absolutely nothing to do
with who I am. She still won't take responsibility. And

(44:42):
you notice here, Daphne Barack look right, intrepid Raporta doesn't
even challenge her on or bullshit. Once again, anyone representing
Maxwell out there, family members, her surrogates. You want to
come on this show and defend Maxwell, I will glad
gladly host you on the show, give you plenty of

(45:02):
time to speak, But then after your turn is done,
it will then be my turn. Me my beard, and
my big fat mouth. We have some questions and we
would like some fucking answers, So if you'd like to
come onto the show, I will gladly have you. I

(45:23):
find it curious that so many people choose to contribute
to the fake created version, sort of like a Disney character,
the Wicked Witch, if you will. The real people who
know me and still love me have never spoken, well
why not? Here's their chance come on the show again.
Any of Maxwell's Sarah gets out there, friends, supporters, I
am more than willing to give you time on this show.

(45:45):
Here's the problem, folks, none of these people ever want
a boogie. I mean, am I that much of an
unwelcoming cur mudgeon? They don't ever want to fucking get
down with me. I guess with other people it's okay
because they know they're not going to get lamb based
and eviscerated. But I don't have any time for having filters.
We're not friends. I'm not a journalist. I'm a concerned

(46:08):
citizen who asked some questions. And this whole entire thing
has went on for way too long, with way too
many people pussy footing around the real questions and the
real crux of the problem an intelligent woman who graduated
from Oxford University with a Modern Languages degree and says

(46:32):
she has worked all her life. Maxwell hates to show weakness.
You work your whole life doing what grifting? You've never
had a real job. Stop it, she said. I think
there are many women who can identify with my story.
Many have either fallen in love with or had relationships
with men that in hindsight they look back and say,
what was I thinking. I imagine there's not a woman

(46:55):
on the planet who would not think that about one
or other of their boyfriends. Oh stop it again, the
hole setting herself up as a victim the whole I
didn't do it. That shit is garbage for me, and
it's going to get called out one hundred percent of
the time. But she said she would not discuss individuals Epstein,

(47:17):
Prince Andrew, or Scott Borgersen, the husband who reportedly dumped
her in prison, until her appeal has been heard. Maxwell
even refused to deny reports that she and Andrew were
once a couple, claiming I have read and seen and
heard and had reported to me so many monstrous inaccuracies
that I can't even start to pick apart all of them. Well,

(47:38):
guess what, You're a convicted liar. Okay, so I don't
believe anything you have to say. How about that, Glen, Maxwell,
run home and put that in your ramen noodles. If
I pick apart one and don't address all the others,
it's going to be well, She said, no to this,
what about all the others? So I'm not going to
discuss anything of that nature after the appeal. I'm going

(48:00):
to be super happy to address with you any of
those things. Boy oh boy, I would love to get
a full accounting of what went on here. But could
they become friends in the future, She said, I don't
have an expectation. People who I have been friends with
and very close friends with, I can't think about what
they will want to do or not do. In an

(48:20):
astonishing you turn, Maxwell Brand did one of the most
damaging exhibits in the case against Andrew a forgery, the
infamous photo of him with his hand clutching teenage sex slave.
You mean survivor Virginia Roberts bear midriff, And this has
been the crux of their bullshit for the whole time.
And all of these people who have pushed this. You're

(48:42):
a bunch of punk bitches too. That's right, every last
one of you, calling you out right here, right now
on this podcast. If you push that this picture was fake,
you're a sorry ass, punk ass bitch. YEP, that's right.
I said it, and that's how I truly feel, because
there's no way that this picture is fake. What you're

(49:03):
gonna tell me, because it's your opinion that it's fake.
We've heard from experts that it's not fake. We've heard
from the FBI that it's not fake. So what are
you doing out here talking about, oh, this is a
fake picture. All you're doing is throwing more mud in
the water and making it harder to get to the
destination where there's some clarity. The photo is not real.

(49:27):
Said to have been taken at Maxwell's London home in
March of two thousand and one, it shows her standing
in the background grinning broadly. The photo is not real,
she insisted, backing Andrew's earlier claim. Look, she's still in
bed with Andrew. There's no doubt. And Prince Andrew's bitch asked,
he's gonna have to answer for this shit one day too,
and I'll put the same invite out there for anyone

(49:49):
that was involved with Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. You want
to come on this podcast and set the record straight,
Let's fucking do it. Enough with the bullshit. There was
never an original one produced, She refused to say. Moron Roberts,
who sued the prince for sex abuse and accepted or

(50:10):
reported twelve million pounds in damages earlier this year, adding
with a dimissive, dismissive wave, I don't even want to
start talking about Virginia. Well that's why you're in this mess,
you fucking disgusting animal. Of course you don't. You should
be saying sorry to Virginia. You should be begging for
her forgiveness. The Prince dropped his defense against Robert's lawsuit,

(50:34):
agreed to pay up, turning him into the palace pariah.
Banned from royal duties after a damaging twenty fifteen email
from Galain emerged. Now I wondering what your pops knew
about this picture, Daphnee Brock. Epstein's lawyer Alan Dershowitz had
asked her asked her if the picture was real. She replied,

(50:57):
it looks real. I think it is, so Maxwell thought
it was real. But then now it's not. She's so stupid,
and the whole entire lie is coming crashing down. These
people aren't built for this shit. What are they? El Choppo,
el Mio and the Lost Chopitos? No, they are a
bunch of Oxford trained bitch ass punks. Challenged on that, now,

(51:21):
Maxwell insisted, I don't recognize that picture, and I don't
believe it is a real picture. Then she claimed that
all she meant to say in the email was she
recognized her own house. Oh I'm sure, I said. Is
that image that, whatever it is, I recognize it as
my house, she explained in a rambling response. But I
have come to discover that image. I don't believe it's true,

(51:42):
and the original has never been produced because it doesn't exist.
I don't believe that image is a true image. That's
a damn lie. I would love to talk to Bretler
about all of this. Imagine if he can go on
the record about all of this. Think about what Butretler
has done with arm Think about what Breler has done
with Tiffany Hattish. Do you really think that Bretler, of

(52:05):
all people, is going to accept this settlement. If there's
a way around it if he can get his client off.
Fuck no, hell no, Bretler is not that kind of dude.
So Maxwell can chirp all she wants. Anyone can chirp
all they want, but the facts are what they are.

(52:26):
So did she reply to Dershowitz without thinking? If you
see a photograph and it's a photograph of you in
your home, and someone says to you, is that picture
of you? Oh, you don't question, but now you do, right,
it would never occur to me that that time that
somebody would have created a photograph or you know, done
something with a picture. I recognize the surroundings of the photograph,

(52:47):
nothing more than that. Maxwell claims are over fifty problems
with the picture that led her to come to the
conclusion that it was a fake. Well, it's good to
know that she's, Oh, I don't know, mister Addenborough, now
that she's a picture specialist. Here's an idea, Glenn Maxwell.
Stick to yoga, stick to lying, and stick to shutting
the fuck up. Because every time you open your mouth,

(53:07):
you dig that hole deeper. And this interview is no different.
She's out here still talking about her connections to Trump,
to Clinton, to this one, to that one. Here's an idea, SDNY,
here's an idea of federal government press it open up
a RICO investigation include Maxwell. She wants to keep talking.

(53:28):
She obviously doesn't feel bad about what happened, So why
don't we hit her with some predicates? SDNY, This is
your call out. You're being challenged not only by me,
but by everybody who cares about justice and everybody who
cares about this case. In the words of Bill Belichick,
do your job, all right, folks, it's gonna do it

(53:51):
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