October 17, 2025 • 37 mins
There are a number of shocking and lurid messages, uncovered in court documents and police files, that tie Jean-Luc Brunel to Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. One especially chilling note, seized by Florida investigators in around 2005, reportedly came from Brunel (or at least via Brunel’s associates) offering Epstein a “teacher” to give him “free lessons.” The message reads: “He has a teacher for you to teach how to speak Russian. She is two-times eight years old. Not blond.” That cruel phrasing suggested a child of 16 (2×8) was being offered, and whether literal or coded, it heightened suspicion about Brunel’s role in procuring underage girls for Epstein.
Beyond texts, Brunel’s connection to Epstein is reinforced by multiple models’ accusations and legal filings. Virginia Giuffre has claimed Brunel directed her to meet Epstein, and materials in unsealed lawsuits show Brunel was accused of using his modeling agencies to traffic girls, recruiting young women under promises of modeling that turned into sexual assignments. He was listed as a passenger on Epstein’s flights, and emails and court exhibits reference his involvement in supplying girls to Epstein.
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Beyond texts, Brunel’s connection to Epstein is reinforced by multiple models’ accusations and legal filings. Virginia Giuffre has claimed Brunel directed her to meet Epstein, and materials in unsealed lawsuits show Brunel was accused of using his modeling agencies to traffic girls, recruiting young women under promises of modeling that turned into sexual assignments. He was listed as a passenger on Epstein’s flights, and emails and court exhibits reference his involvement in supplying girls to Epstein.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right today. Our article is from the New York
Post and it's from August ninth of twenty nineteen. The
authors are Ben Furherd and Emily Saul. Transcripts of phone
messages left from multimillionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, which include talk
of providing him females, were revealed in documents unsealed Friday
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in connection with a defamation case against the PERVS alleged recruiter.
The photos of the telephone message books were obtained by
authorities through a search warn in two thousand and five,
and include communications from Jean Luke Brunel, a modeling agency
hancho who was alleged to have had sex with one
of Epstein's teenaged accusers, alleged to a lot more. You see,
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even as early as August when this article came out,
Jean Luke Brunell was still flying under the radar. He
was still keeping his toes out of this water. He
was just Epstream, Epstein's pal. He was just you know,
a modeling scout that hung out with Epstein. Meanwhile, Brunell
was a pipeline and a conduit for Epstein to have
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these young modeling types who came from broken homes who
were just looking for their break in the business, folks,
all right, they were just looking to have a chance,
a chance to make their lives better, a chance to
make their families lives better, a chance to succeed. And
instead they ran into this animal, John Luke Burnell, and
ended up in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. And this
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son of a bitch, John Luke Burnell is still running around,
hanging out in Brazil or wherever the hell he is.
He just did a good one eighteen years. She spoke
to me and I said, I love jeff She spoke
to me and said I love Jeffrey, Brunell said in
an updated phone call, according to a photo of the
message book, I mean, what does that even mean? He
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just did a good one eighteen years. I'll leave it
up to you to come to the conclusion of what
he meant by that. But what I think he came to,
what I think he meant by that is just beyond
the pale. Okay, this is a proof of him and
Jeffrey Epstein talking about girls that were trafficked to Jeffrey Epstein.
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And I don't care if she was eighteen or eighty. Okay,
any woman that was caught in Jeffrey Epstein's clutches and
trafficked deserves justice. She deserves people to listen to her,
and she deserves these sons of bitches to go to prison.
He has a teacher for you to teach you how
to speak Russian, Brunell said in another phone call on
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September first, two thousand and five. According to the documents,
she is two by eight, sixteen years old, not blonde.
Lessons are free and you can have the first one
today if you call. This was the message he left
to Jeffrey Epstein. She is two times eight, so sixteen
years old and not blonde, and the lessons are free
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and you can have the first today if you call
on how to speak Russian. I mean the codes they
were using were so juve as well. Really, do they
really think the authorities weren't going to break their code?
What did they think they needed the wind talkers to
come in and break their code? Like it's the enigma
in World War Two? Are these people for real? The
only reason these people got away with it is because
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they were being protected. It has nothing to do with
them being smart or master criminals or anything like that.
These mother fs were not that smart when we're talking
about being criminals. As far as Epstein and Brunel Goo,
there were a bunch of brutes, and they would have
been caught a long time ago if two things didn't occur.
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The first thing, Gilay Maxwell being sent in to be
their minder, basically the brains behind the operation. And two,
if they weren't protected by the intelligence apparatus, they would
have been arrested so long ago for this nonsense. Do
you really think any seasoned investigator, investigator or even junior
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investigator wouldn't be able to decipher their silly little terminology here.
I took a look at this once and I knew
what they were talking about. And I'm certainly no seasoned investigator,
just an average guy who's pissed off. Other messages from
unknown callers include communications such as I have a female
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for him and want to know if she should bring
her friend with her friend with tonight. According to the documents,
so look, it's right here plain his day. What more
evidence is needed? Jean Luke Burnell was providing girls for
Jeffrey Epstein to abuse and to rape, and Jeffrey Epstein
in return invested in Jean Luke Brenell's modeling company MC two.
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So you see how these symbiotic relationships work, folks, You
see how Jeffrey Epstein was always involved. It seems with
people like this, it never fails when we hear about
some sort of predator. Now that Jeffrey Epstein was friendly
with them, we all know that him and Weinstein were
rubbing elbows. We just read that article as well. So
this circle is small with these people, the soul called
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Polite Society of New York. They sicken me, honestly, they
sicken me. I am so glad that I moved out
of their one I did, and I am so glad
I never worked in the financial sector on Wall Street
the way a lot of my family and friends have.
It is just a gross scene. I want nothing to
do with it. I'd rather be a cashier at seven
to eleven than put any of my my knowledge to
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use on Wall Street or work in the financial district.
It is such a den of scum and villainy. You
can count your boy out. The messages were taken for
Epstein by someone answering his calls and writing the information
down on paper. Bam. Someone answering his calls. So that's
one of the Core four. All right. I don't have
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the information on who it was, but I'm gonna go
out on a limb here and say it was Leslie
Groth or Sarah Kelln Vickers. And if so, again, why
is this not a RICO case? This is a criminal conspiracy.
You have two or more people conspiring to commit crimes.
So why are these people not hit with RICO? Why
are they not arrested? Especially when the evidence is all
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right here. We know that the Core four were involved
in taking down messages for Epstein. We know that the
Core four were involved in setting up interviews and these
girls to come sit down with Epstein and be abused.
We know that that was occurring. So let's find out
who the person was who took down these notes, and
let's get a criminal conspiracy case going. Mister Berman, I mean,
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how much more clear do I have to be? We've
read what We've read what constitutes RICO under the Charter
of the Criminal Justice System. We've read that, and this
all applies. We know that this was an ongoing criminal conspiracy.
Another check mark. Yet here we are with no charges
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and no movement. They were made public Friday as part
of two thousand pages of documents that were unsealed in
Manhattan Federal Court related to Virginia Roberts defamation lawsuit against
British co conspirator Gilane Maxwell. In a deposition, Roberts claim
she was trafficked to mit professor Marvin Minsky, who died
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in twenty sixteen at age eighty eight, as well as
former main Senator George Mitchell, ex New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson,
and money manager Glenn Dubin, whose wife Eva is an
ex girlfriend of Epstein's. And We've talked about all of
these people at length, and Marvin Minsky is another one
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that is somebody that I'm going to talk to at
some point. I've I've had some people give me some
information about Marvin Minsky, but I haven't been able to
vet it correctly yet. I haven't been able to make
it to prove it. So I don't run with stuff
that I can't prove, because I don't want to give
these people on the other side, even in an inch,
to come in and start throwing around wild accusations or
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come in with a fake witness like they tried to
with Kessler. You know I'm not gonna I can't be
part of that. So if I can't vet something and
I can't confirm it, I just I keep it in
my top pocket and I wait until I come to
the point where I can. But with Minski, I've heard
from several people about this guy and about how he
was not a very good man, and he was certainly
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the type that they could see being involved in something
like this. And we're going to get into more of
that with Marvin Minsky. As I'm able to talk to
more people with firsthand knowledge and people who knew him
or worked with him, and I'm able to vet some
of the information I have, I'll go deeper into the
Minsky rabbit hole. But just know that again, when Virginia
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Roberts claims that these people assaulted her or abused her,
or she was trafficked to them, I believe her. I
one hundred percent believe her. And it's not because I
believe all women or I'm some big advocate of the
Me Too movement. I'm not any of that stuff, right,
I've never been any of that stuff. I've never been
an advocate ever in my life. I'm not some social
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justice warrior who virtue signals. But what I am is
somebody who follows evidence, and the evidence that Virginia Roberts
has laid out on the table, and the evidence that
she has provided for us. It's obvious for anyone paying
attention that there's two sides to this story. And there's
one side full of liars, and there's another side of
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a young girl who has become a strong woman, who
has decided to put everything on the line, who has
given us receipts, literal receipts, pictures, corroborated evidence from pilots.
I corroborated some of her story myself when I was
in New Mexico. So this is a woman who is
telling the truth while the rest of these scumbags, the
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Bill Richardson's, the George Mitchells, the Glenn Dubins, the Marvin Minsky's, etc. Etc.
They've done nothing but lie. The documents also contain allegations
that Maxwell tried to for a fifteen year old girl
to have sexed with Epstein by threatening her and stealing
her passport. Yeah, we know that as well. We know
the story. We know about the girl in the Duban's kitchen.
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We know about the poor little the young little Swedish girl.
We know about the girls on the island whose passports
were taken and they were so crazed to get off
the island they were thinking about trying to swim home.
We know about that stuff, and yet there is no
charges against these people. Not only do we know, folks,
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it's not like it's some big secret, like we're all
in on some big secret that nobody else knows, like
we have information that nobody else is able to have
access to. It's none of that. All of this information
is public. We've just done the work of putting the
pieces of the puzzle together, the same work that you
would expect the investigators in the case to do. Like
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I've said, I'm not a seasoned investigator or a law
enforcement official or anything like that. I'm just a guy
who was covering the news at the time, but a
different aspect of the news. Right. I was involved in
covering the Middle East and the geopolitical situation on the
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ground in the Middle East, and I had always had
an interest in this story. But this story came across
my desk and it just lit a fire under me.
And once it lit a fire under me, I started
putting the pieces together. And if I can put the
pieces together, and we can put the pieces together, everybody
out there, because I've from talking to all of you,
I know that all of you have been doing the
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same exact thing pretty much from the very beginning. If
we can do it, why can't the investigators do it?
Why can't the prosecution do it? Because it's right there
plan his day for anybody paying attention. This was a
criminal organization. It was ongoing, it was a criminal conspiracy,
and the levels of it go all the way to
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the very very top. Everybody who's been named in these
court documents, from Trump on down needs to be subpoened
and spoken with. It's just the only way to get
to the bottom of this because we don't have the
answers that we need right now. Oh we're starting to
get them. Things are starting to trickle out right, and
we're putting we're putting the puzzle together. But you know,
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when you start a puzzle, you should always start at
the corners, and that's what we're doing. We've done here.
We've started at the corners, and we're working our way
inside and eventually this whole entire puzzle is going to
come into picture. And once this puzzle comes into picture,
once we've put every little piece that we can of
this puzzle together, well, the prosecution is going to be
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forced to act. We're going to force their hand because
we're going to present it all to them on a
nice little platter. And all they'll have to do is
come and listen to my podcast, listen to the prints
and the PERV podcast, listen to other other content creators
like Sean Attwood, et cetera, et cetera, and the evidence
is all right out there for them to see, and
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they're going to They're going to be forced to act.
They're going to be forced to act because guess what,
we'll take our We'll take our case to the people
like we're doing right now. And the people, as as
much as they are, you know, deaf to what's going
on right now, it's not because they don't care the
average person. It's because the media hasn't done their job.
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The legacy media hasn't done their job to drive this
point home. They haven't been on this case like a pitbull.
They haven't been chasing this case down in the dark corners. Meanwhile,
you have independent content creators that are spending pretty much
all their time on this case. You have people that
are leaving their own home and you know, researching this
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case in places where these crimes occurred, and yet the
legacy media is nowhere to be found. Their job is
to inform the public when things like this are going on,
when things like this are happening, But yet they're too
busy engaging in tribalism, They're too busy engaging in gotcha
politics to really drive the point home that the whole
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system is f okay, not just one party, not just
the other, not just the way things are done, but
the whole entire system is completely and utterly fubar, and
we need a reset. But the media is too busy
carrying water for their buddies on whatever side of the
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aisle they fall on, and lying to the American public
and gaslighting you on a regular basis about bullshit that
doesn't even matter. Like Ukraine, there's so much bull that
the Congress has been involved in that does not matter,
that has drawn attention away from real problems in this country.
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And it's unacceptable. It's just unacceptable, and that is why
people like myself and other content creators have dropped all
pretenses of bullshit and dove into this case and put
every single person on blast was involved, be they Republican,
be they Democrat, be they independent, be they somebody that
you I'm speaking for myself here, especially even people that
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I looked up to previously to researching this case, like
Ronald Reagan. I don't look up to Ronald Reagan no more.
And I always knew that he wasn't a great guy,
but I, you know, appreciated the way he took on communism.
So it was Reagan was always somebody that I thought was,
you know, a good guy. And then I started researching
this case, and you know, I know for a fact
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that Reagan was not a good guy. Now and I
don't have any any qualms lighting the whole entire establishment
on fire. At this point, I'm not even I don't
even consider myself politically politically active anymore. Like I used
to really be involved in what was going on domestically
in this country until I found out it was all
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a shell game both sides, Republican and Democrat. They're both
playing a shell game, and they don't give a damn.
They don't care about the girls in this case, They
don't give they don't give damn about these survivors. If
either side cared, there would have already been congressional hearings
bringing all these people to heal. But instead all we
have is more handwringing and more political bickering and more infighting,
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while the rest of us are standing around yelling from
rooftops that we want justice, and neither side will. Apparently
neither side cares enough to bring it to us. So
that's okay, that's all right. We'll just ignore them like
everybody should be doing at this point in this country.
Ignore those idiots in DC, ignore those morons in Washington,
and us together as a community, we'll put this will
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put all the evidence together, will put it all in
a nice little silver platter, and then the prosecutors and
the federal government will have no choice but to pursue
this matter fully, because once the people in America find
out what truly occurred in this case, once the people
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truly understand the gravity of what occurred in this case,
and once the people truly understand that these aren't just
rumors and this isn't just some conspiracy theory, once they
understand that Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts were trafficking women
and children with the consent of the intelligence agencies here
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and abroad. The people are going to freak out. They're
at a point now, there's a tipping point in this country,
and now is the time to drive this point home, folks.
Now is the time to make sure that we let
the intelligence apparatus know that they are no longer in charge.
It is time for the American Spring. It is time
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for the people to take our government back, and it
is time for the people to demand justice. If you'd
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bobbycap Ucci at ProtonMail
dot com. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the
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Epstein Chronicles. Hope everybody's having a great Friday morning so far,
and hopefully all of you are going to have this
weekend off. For those of you who celebrate Easter, hope
you guys get to celebrate it with your families, friends,
loved ones, whatever. And for those of you who don't, well,
I just hope you have a fantastic weekend. As for
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our topic for today, we're going to talk about Jean
Luke Brunell, and how some of the biggest retailers in
the industry were spooked by this guy's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
with the allegations against Jean Luke Brunell. But yet somehow
the company MC two, their modeling agency, they still had inroads.
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They were still getting work, they were still sending girls
to these different gigantic retailers. And as you'll see in
this article, Jean Luke Brunell's partner was very, very concerned,
so concerned in fact, that in business with Jean Luke Brunell.
All Right, so this article is from Fortune dot Com
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and the headline is major retailers had tremendous concerns about
fashion model scouts ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Well, not concerns
enough to stop doing business with them, huh, Not concerns
enough to send Jean Luke Brunell an MC two packin Huh.
You See, it's only when this stuff is brought to
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light that these people have concerns, right, It's never when
they're actually getting into bed with these scumbags when everybody
knows who they are. Look, you really mean to tell
me there weren't rumors around Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell
when these people originally got into business with them. The
only time it's a problem is when it's exposed. This
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article was authored by Kim Bassen, Jordan Hallman, and Bloomberg,
and it was originally published August nineteenth of two thousand
and nineteen. Several of the biggest retailers in the US,
including Nordstrom's, Macy's, Sacksvith Avenue, and Nieman Marcus, were named
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as previous clients by the president of a modeling agency
with deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein, as allegations of sex
trafficking swirled around the financier and the firm. You mean
the pedophile, And it's funny that they say, oh, he
has deep ties to Epstein. Well, the owner of the company,
Jean Luke Brunell, started the company with seed money from
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Jeffrey Epstein. But let's not act like Jean Luke Brunell
is some good guy that you want to be associated with. Either.
Even if he wasn't rolling around with Epstein, this guy
would have still been molesting people, in raping people. Additionally,
store officials five years ago were worried about Epstein's association
with the agency. According to an internal agency letter, the
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agency MC two Model Management is owned by industry veteran
Jean Luke Brunell. His relationship to Epstein, who committed suicide
last week, allegedly is documented at least as far back
as two thousand and two, when flight logs placed Brunell
on Epstein's private plane for a flight from Florida to
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the Bahamas. Look, we all know now how deep that
relationship was, how close Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell were,
and that Jean Luke Brunell served a key role within
Epstein's criminal enterprise. This guy was getting girls, securing girls
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from all over the world, mainly war torn nations, places
like Eastern Europe, on the Balkans, you name it, any
place where there's strife and suffering, you could be sure
that Jean Luke Brunell and scoundrels like him are there
looking to exploit that. So Jean lu Brunell has been
doing that forever for Jeffrey Epstein. And let's not forget
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all of the rumors and what we have heard about
Na Marchinkova. Epstein bought her from her parents. The whole
sordid tale, and all of that was facilitated by Jean
Luke Brunel jelllog show. Brunell visited Epstein while he was
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serving a thirteen month sentence for procuring an underage girl
for prostitution. Brunell also housed models in Epstein's Manhattan apartments,
according to a sworn deposition by a former company bookkeeper. Look,
we all know that it was the apartment building on
sixty six. They would bring these girls in and they
would give them these stories about how they're gonna be
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these huge models in America, how they're gonna work for
all of these companies. But instead they'd be forced to
go out as escorts for Epstein's buddies, for Jean Luke
Brunell's buddies. Pretty amazing that nobody else has been wrapped
up in this. Huh, I guess there were no Johns. Yes,
nobody was buying the services. And this is all a
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figment of everybody's imagination. By twenty fourteen, Brunell's business partner,
Jeff Fuller was concerned that the relationship with Epstein could
be damaging. Oh. By twenty fourteen, huh this Fuller, gentleman
Jeff Fuller real quick to catch on. In a letter
reviewed by Bloomberg News, Fuller told Brunell that he was
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getting a tremendous amount of worries from our clients about
the ties to Epstein. Then went on to list as
clients nord Trom Incorporated, Macy's Incorporated, Sacks, Fifth Avenue, Neeman Marcus, JC,
Penny Company, Cohle's Corporation, Target Corporation, Sears, and Belk. So
all of those companies that were getting girls from MC two.
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More than likely at some point we're using trafficked girls.
That's just the reality of the situation. If Brunell is involved,
you can almost guarantee that there's trafficked girls. In that
same year, Nordstrom executives wrote a letter offering her full
support and unqualified support for Brunel's full full and unqualified
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support of Brunell's application for an one visa, the work
permit the US government awards to extraordinary individuals. Well, we
all know how extraordinary Jean Luke Brunel is. Funny that
he was able to facilitate this as well and get
this kind of waiver. I'm sure it has nothing to
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do with you know, a little back room greasing of
the palms or anything like that. While the retailers are
said to have been clients of MC two aren't accused
of wrongdoing, they join a long and growing list of
powerful people and institutions in Epstein's orbit. Look, is there
anywhere that this dude and his corrosive disgustingness didn't seep into?
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Is there any part of the the establishment, Because every
time you turn around, there's a new part of the
establishment that Epstein has his fingerprints all over. Nordstrom declined
to comment for this story. It last worked with MC
two in January of twenty seventeen, according to a person
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familiar with the company's model booking. J C. Penny and
Target declined to comment for this story. Nieman, Marcus, Cole, Sears,
and Belk they didn't respond to requests, course not. Why
would they look. The last thing you want is your
name associated with Jeffrey Epstein. But you know a good
way to avoid that, well, don't be associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Sachs doesn't currently work with MC two, according to a
person familiar with the company's booking. Macy's also said MC
two is not on its active roster, though it had
been used on a handful of very small projects. Company
spokeswoman Blair Rosenberg set in an email the person who
engaged then was not aware of the concerns. Oh, I'm
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sure nobody. Look, nobody knew. These guys were pillars of
the community, you know, real salt and earth types. There
was never any suspicion that Epstein or Brunell were perverts.
Give me a break. There was so many tells, so
many signs, and people who missed those signs I believe
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missed them willingly because they knew they were going to
benefit financially. Nordstroom shares rose two point two percent to
twenty five twenty five dollars and eighty seven cents on
Monday at nine thirty eight am in New York. J C.
Penny was a little changed. Blah blah blah. Still we're
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gonna skip that part. Don't need any of that. Those
were old numbers of what the stock was doing in
twenty nineteen. Earlier accusations against Brunell. In December twenty fourteen,
Brunell was accused of trafficking underage girls to farm them
out to friends, including Epstein. According to court documents filed
by one of Epstein's accusers. Brunell denied all trafficking claims
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in twenty fifteen and hasn't released a public statement since.
Oh yeah, well, we all know that he is a
very honorable guy. And that's why, you know, very honorable
men like him, they end up killing themselves in prison
when they're under all kinds of charges of human trafficking
and rape and assault and all kinds of things. He
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had no idea what was going on. He wasn't involved.
This dude was a key component, one of the sickest
of the group. In fact, Brunell and MC two came
back into the spotlight last month after allegations against Epstein
resurfaced and cast a shadow on longtime associate Les Wexner,
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the CEO of L Brands, which owns Victoria's Secret. Wexner
says his relationship with Epstein and did nearly twelve years ago,
but the modeling agency and its owner had business relationships
that extended far beyond L Brands. Yeah, you think advocating
for models. It's not clear how extensively or for how
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long the retailers worked with MC two, but the connections
draw fresh scrutiny to the relationship retailers have with the
modeling industry, which is largely unregulated. Retailers often work with
several modeling agencies, using a casting director to determine who
to book for fashion shows, catalog shoots, and other projects. Meanwhile,
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a lot of these girls are being abused and trafficked. Look,
I have zero faith in the modeling industry. Just about
everything I've learned about the modeling industry has sickened me.
And I've said it once and I'll say it a
million more times. If I had a daughter or a
son who wanted to be in that industry, I would
not leave them alone for one minute while they were
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underage with one of these people. Never once. Maybe I'm
being too cautious or going overboard or whatever, but I've
seen enough, folks, I've pulled that curtain way back, and
the eyeful that I have received in the past three
years enough to turn anyone's stomach. Sarah Zif, executive director
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of modeling advocacy group The Model Alliance, says retailers have
the same obligation to models that apparel makers have to
garment workers. Retailers have an interest and responsibility to make
sure that abuses aren't happening on their watch. He said,
it's a workforce that's uniquely vulnerable, and there's a lack
of accountability. And you wonder why all of these dudes
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get involved in the world of modeling or pageants or
you know, talent shows or whatever. And inevitably all of
these dudes that get involved are like these old, gross
ass creepy dudes. The fuck does John Luke Brunel know
about beautiful women and modeling? You see this guy, He
looks like he's ripped right from the pages of some
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bad British comic as one of the villains. No women
trying to hang out with this dude if it wasn't
for his modeling business. In fact, some stores have policies
in place to protect employees, including contractors like models, from abuse,
a fact which concerned mc to President Fuller. According to
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his email, of course, it did look and this Fuller
guy to act like he had no idea. You mean
to tell me you're in business with Jean Luke Brunell
and you have no idea who he is, or what
he's up to, or where the seed money came for
your company? Okay, buddy, sure, we believe you. It really
worries me as some of those companies have associated themselves
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from what they believe to be questionable companies, Fuller wrote
in a two thousand and four email to Brunell, so
far that has not been a problem, but it could
come up in the future. It hasn't been a problem yet,
and it's because the doors weren't blown open yet. But
these companies knew. They're not stupid. They all had access
to the internet. They all knew when Epstein got arrested.
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They all heard the rumors. They didn't care. Brunell's ascendancy
as a model scout. Brunell cannot be reached for comment
through multiple calls to MC two well breaking news. You're
not going to be able to reach him any time
soon either, unless you got a direct line to Hell.
He began his career in Paris in the mid seventies.
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In the eighties, he worked with Eileen Ford's modeling most
prominent executive. She severed ties to Brunell after allegations of
sexual assault surfaced in a nineteen eighty eight report on
his operations in Paris by the CBS News investigative program
sixty minutes. No big deal though, Macy's will still work
with you, Nieman, Marcus Sachs, J C. Pennies, Sears, come
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on down on sexual assaulters. We welcome one in all.
In nineteen ninety five, he founded an agency called Karen
Models of America, which later became MC two, and at
some point became friends with Epstein, who invested one million
dollars in his modeling business. According to a twenty ten
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deposition by a former company bookkeeper, the agency has denied
receiving such funds. Oh yeah, I'm sure that Jeffrey Epstein
and Jean Luke Brunell only met at this time. These
guys have been friends way longer than that. Look, this
was all part of the scheme, part of the plot.
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They needed Brunel. He was a key component for what
they had to do. He was bringing these girls in,
and he was bringing them in at a huge clip,
and the cover was, Oh, they're coming in for modeling gigs.
Oh let me get a visa for them. But the
reality was something much much darker. Brunell visited Epstein while
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he was in jail in two thousand and eight, According
to visitor logs and flight records, show that he traveled
on Epstein's private jet along with Glenn Maxwell, the woman
accused in civil lawsuits of procuring teenage girls for the
pedophile Yeah, well a little bit more than that now, huh.
Going to prison for the rest of her life for
human trafficking while Jean Luke Brunell is burning for eternity.
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Epstein also allowed the agent to house models and a
handful of Manhattan apartments. According to the bookkeeper's statement, one
Nordstrom executive vouched for Brunel and his skills as a
model scout. In twenty fourteen, Liza Maslow, Nordstrom's lead model booker,
sent a letter to US Citizenship and Immigration Services in
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support of Brunell's application for a visa. In her letter,
she wrote that mister Jean Luke Brunell is an art
director and talent coordinator of the highest caliber, whose technical
excellence and creative vision have lifted him to the top
of a profession. I'm sure it had nothing to do
with his exploitation of women or the fact that he
had Jeffrey Epstein and all of Epstein's powerful friends backing him.
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Nordstrom declined to make Maslow available for an interview. Maslow
didn't respond to phone calls or social media messages seeking comment.
Why should they, Why should there be any accountability? In
twenty fifteen, Brunell sued Epstein, claiming that his former friend
had ruined his reputation to the point that it was
nearly impossible to run his modeling business. The suit was
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thrown out because Epstein was never served. You know, it's
because Brunell knew the score, bro, You were just as
deep in it as Epstein, running around talking about your
reputation's been sullied. MC two continues to do business out
of offices in Miami. In Tel Aviv, Brunell was searching
for potential models on behalf of MC two in Eastern
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Europe Shocker, Ukraine, Hush Shocker and Russia. Oh Another Shocker
had recently as twenty fifteen. According to a promotional video
recorded that fall, my business partner Jean Luke Brunell is
one of the last legendary agents in the business, and
he's highly involved in the recruitment and scouting of some
of the best girls that we've been launching currently, Fuller
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says in the video. We're launching just like a whole
new crop of girls right now. Oh, isn't that great?
I'm sure all of those girls had fantastic experiences. Mister
Fuller Brunell has since disappeared from the public eye. His
current whereabouts remain unknown. Well, I guess that's not the
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case anymore. Huh. We all know where he's at now.
But when this article was first published, there was a
lot of talk about where Jean lu Brunell was. Was
he with Glenn Maxwell? Were they hiding out together? Where
the hell were these people? As we all know, well
we found out, didn't we. Jean lu Brunell ended up
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getting hell than Paris, and of course Maxwell ends up
getting popped in New Hampshire. But folks, it's just another
example of how disgusting the modeling industry is and all
of these retailers that use these models. There needs to
be some accountability because it is a fact that these
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girls from MC two that were being brought in by
Jean Luke Brunell, maybe not all of them, but a
large number or at the very least sum were trafficked
and were being victimized by Epstein Brunel and who knows
who else. So these retailers, these big time places like
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you know, Sacks Fifth Avenue. They're gonna have to do
a better job. And the modeling industry itself needs to
be regulated because we all know they can't regulate themselves.
All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this episode. Obviously,
more is certainly on the way. If you'd like to
contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at
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I'll be
All right today. Our article is from the New York
Post and it's from August ninth of twenty nineteen. The
authors are Ben Furherd and Emily Saul. Transcripts of phone
messages left from multimillionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, which include talk
of providing him females, were revealed in documents unsealed Friday
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in connection with a defamation case against the PERVS alleged recruiter.
The photos of the telephone message books were obtained by
authorities through a search warn in two thousand and five,
and include communications from Jean Luke Brunel, a modeling agency
hancho who was alleged to have had sex with one
of Epstein's teenaged accusers, alleged to a lot more. You see,
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even as early as August when this article came out,
Jean Luke Brunell was still flying under the radar. He
was still keeping his toes out of this water. He
was just Epstream, Epstein's pal. He was just you know,
a modeling scout that hung out with Epstein. Meanwhile, Brunell
was a pipeline and a conduit for Epstein to have
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these young modeling types who came from broken homes who
were just looking for their break in the business, folks,
all right, they were just looking to have a chance,
a chance to make their lives better, a chance to
make their families lives better, a chance to succeed. And
instead they ran into this animal, John Luke Burnell, and
ended up in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. And this
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son of a bitch, John Luke Burnell is still running around,
hanging out in Brazil or wherever the hell he is.
He just did a good one eighteen years. She spoke
to me and I said, I love jeff She spoke
to me and said I love Jeffrey, Brunell said in
an updated phone call, according to a photo of the
message book, I mean, what does that even mean? He
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just did a good one eighteen years. I'll leave it
up to you to come to the conclusion of what
he meant by that. But what I think he came to,
what I think he meant by that is just beyond
the pale. Okay, this is a proof of him and
Jeffrey Epstein talking about girls that were trafficked to Jeffrey Epstein.
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And I don't care if she was eighteen or eighty. Okay,
any woman that was caught in Jeffrey Epstein's clutches and
trafficked deserves justice. She deserves people to listen to her,
and she deserves these sons of bitches to go to prison.
He has a teacher for you to teach you how
to speak Russian, Brunell said in another phone call on
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September first, two thousand and five. According to the documents,
she is two by eight, sixteen years old, not blonde.
Lessons are free and you can have the first one
today if you call. This was the message he left
to Jeffrey Epstein. She is two times eight, so sixteen
years old and not blonde, and the lessons are free
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and you can have the first today if you call
on how to speak Russian. I mean the codes they
were using were so juve as well. Really, do they
really think the authorities weren't going to break their code?
What did they think they needed the wind talkers to
come in and break their code? Like it's the enigma
in World War Two? Are these people for real? The
only reason these people got away with it is because
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they were being protected. It has nothing to do with
them being smart or master criminals or anything like that.
These mother fs were not that smart when we're talking
about being criminals. As far as Epstein and Brunel Goo,
there were a bunch of brutes, and they would have
been caught a long time ago if two things didn't occur.
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The first thing, Gilay Maxwell being sent in to be
their minder, basically the brains behind the operation. And two,
if they weren't protected by the intelligence apparatus, they would
have been arrested so long ago for this nonsense. Do
you really think any seasoned investigator, investigator or even junior
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investigator wouldn't be able to decipher their silly little terminology here.
I took a look at this once and I knew
what they were talking about. And I'm certainly no seasoned investigator,
just an average guy who's pissed off. Other messages from
unknown callers include communications such as I have a female
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for him and want to know if she should bring
her friend with her friend with tonight. According to the documents,
so look, it's right here plain his day. What more
evidence is needed? Jean Luke Burnell was providing girls for
Jeffrey Epstein to abuse and to rape, and Jeffrey Epstein
in return invested in Jean Luke Brenell's modeling company MC two.
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So you see how these symbiotic relationships work, folks, You
see how Jeffrey Epstein was always involved. It seems with
people like this, it never fails when we hear about
some sort of predator. Now that Jeffrey Epstein was friendly
with them, we all know that him and Weinstein were
rubbing elbows. We just read that article as well. So
this circle is small with these people, the soul called
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Polite Society of New York. They sicken me, honestly, they
sicken me. I am so glad that I moved out
of their one I did, and I am so glad
I never worked in the financial sector on Wall Street
the way a lot of my family and friends have.
It is just a gross scene. I want nothing to
do with it. I'd rather be a cashier at seven
to eleven than put any of my my knowledge to
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use on Wall Street or work in the financial district.
It is such a den of scum and villainy. You
can count your boy out. The messages were taken for
Epstein by someone answering his calls and writing the information
down on paper. Bam. Someone answering his calls. So that's
one of the Core four. All right. I don't have
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the information on who it was, but I'm gonna go
out on a limb here and say it was Leslie
Groth or Sarah Kelln Vickers. And if so, again, why
is this not a RICO case? This is a criminal conspiracy.
You have two or more people conspiring to commit crimes.
So why are these people not hit with RICO? Why
are they not arrested? Especially when the evidence is all
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right here. We know that the Core four were involved
in taking down messages for Epstein. We know that the
Core four were involved in setting up interviews and these
girls to come sit down with Epstein and be abused.
We know that that was occurring. So let's find out
who the person was who took down these notes, and
let's get a criminal conspiracy case going. Mister Berman, I mean,
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how much more clear do I have to be? We've
read what We've read what constitutes RICO under the Charter
of the Criminal Justice System. We've read that, and this
all applies. We know that this was an ongoing criminal conspiracy.
Another check mark. Yet here we are with no charges
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and no movement. They were made public Friday as part
of two thousand pages of documents that were unsealed in
Manhattan Federal Court related to Virginia Roberts defamation lawsuit against
British co conspirator Gilane Maxwell. In a deposition, Roberts claim
she was trafficked to mit professor Marvin Minsky, who died
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in twenty sixteen at age eighty eight, as well as
former main Senator George Mitchell, ex New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson,
and money manager Glenn Dubin, whose wife Eva is an
ex girlfriend of Epstein's. And We've talked about all of
these people at length, and Marvin Minsky is another one
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that is somebody that I'm going to talk to at
some point. I've I've had some people give me some
information about Marvin Minsky, but I haven't been able to
vet it correctly yet. I haven't been able to make
it to prove it. So I don't run with stuff
that I can't prove, because I don't want to give
these people on the other side, even in an inch,
to come in and start throwing around wild accusations or
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come in with a fake witness like they tried to
with Kessler. You know I'm not gonna I can't be
part of that. So if I can't vet something and
I can't confirm it, I just I keep it in
my top pocket and I wait until I come to
the point where I can. But with Minski, I've heard
from several people about this guy and about how he
was not a very good man, and he was certainly
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the type that they could see being involved in something
like this. And we're going to get into more of
that with Marvin Minsky. As I'm able to talk to
more people with firsthand knowledge and people who knew him
or worked with him, and I'm able to vet some
of the information I have, I'll go deeper into the
Minsky rabbit hole. But just know that again, when Virginia
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Roberts claims that these people assaulted her or abused her,
or she was trafficked to them, I believe her. I
one hundred percent believe her. And it's not because I
believe all women or I'm some big advocate of the
Me Too movement. I'm not any of that stuff, right,
I've never been any of that stuff. I've never been
an advocate ever in my life. I'm not some social
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justice warrior who virtue signals. But what I am is
somebody who follows evidence, and the evidence that Virginia Roberts
has laid out on the table, and the evidence that
she has provided for us. It's obvious for anyone paying
attention that there's two sides to this story. And there's
one side full of liars, and there's another side of
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a young girl who has become a strong woman, who
has decided to put everything on the line, who has
given us receipts, literal receipts, pictures, corroborated evidence from pilots.
I corroborated some of her story myself when I was
in New Mexico. So this is a woman who is
telling the truth while the rest of these scumbags, the
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Bill Richardson's, the George Mitchells, the Glenn Dubins, the Marvin Minsky's, etc. Etc.
They've done nothing but lie. The documents also contain allegations
that Maxwell tried to for a fifteen year old girl
to have sexed with Epstein by threatening her and stealing
her passport. Yeah, we know that as well. We know
the story. We know about the girl in the Duban's kitchen.
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We know about the poor little the young little Swedish girl.
We know about the girls on the island whose passports
were taken and they were so crazed to get off
the island they were thinking about trying to swim home.
We know about that stuff, and yet there is no
charges against these people. Not only do we know, folks,
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it's not like it's some big secret, like we're all
in on some big secret that nobody else knows, like
we have information that nobody else is able to have
access to. It's none of that. All of this information
is public. We've just done the work of putting the
pieces of the puzzle together, the same work that you
would expect the investigators in the case to do. Like
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I've said, I'm not a seasoned investigator or a law
enforcement official or anything like that. I'm just a guy
who was covering the news at the time, but a
different aspect of the news. Right. I was involved in
covering the Middle East and the geopolitical situation on the
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ground in the Middle East, and I had always had
an interest in this story. But this story came across
my desk and it just lit a fire under me.
And once it lit a fire under me, I started
putting the pieces together. And if I can put the
pieces together, and we can put the pieces together, everybody
out there, because I've from talking to all of you,
I know that all of you have been doing the
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same exact thing pretty much from the very beginning. If
we can do it, why can't the investigators do it?
Why can't the prosecution do it? Because it's right there
plan his day for anybody paying attention. This was a
criminal organization. It was ongoing, it was a criminal conspiracy,
and the levels of it go all the way to
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the very very top. Everybody who's been named in these
court documents, from Trump on down needs to be subpoened
and spoken with. It's just the only way to get
to the bottom of this because we don't have the
answers that we need right now. Oh we're starting to
get them. Things are starting to trickle out right, and
we're putting we're putting the puzzle together. But you know,
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when you start a puzzle, you should always start at
the corners, and that's what we're doing. We've done here.
We've started at the corners, and we're working our way
inside and eventually this whole entire puzzle is going to
come into picture. And once this puzzle comes into picture,
once we've put every little piece that we can of
this puzzle together, well, the prosecution is going to be
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forced to act. We're going to force their hand because
we're going to present it all to them on a
nice little platter. And all they'll have to do is
come and listen to my podcast, listen to the prints
and the PERV podcast, listen to other other content creators
like Sean Attwood, et cetera, et cetera, and the evidence
is all right out there for them to see, and
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they're going to They're going to be forced to act.
They're going to be forced to act because guess what,
we'll take our We'll take our case to the people
like we're doing right now. And the people, as as
much as they are, you know, deaf to what's going
on right now, it's not because they don't care the
average person. It's because the media hasn't done their job.
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The legacy media hasn't done their job to drive this
point home. They haven't been on this case like a pitbull.
They haven't been chasing this case down in the dark corners. Meanwhile,
you have independent content creators that are spending pretty much
all their time on this case. You have people that
are leaving their own home and you know, researching this
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case in places where these crimes occurred, and yet the
legacy media is nowhere to be found. Their job is
to inform the public when things like this are going on,
when things like this are happening, But yet they're too
busy engaging in tribalism, They're too busy engaging in gotcha
politics to really drive the point home that the whole
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system is f okay, not just one party, not just
the other, not just the way things are done, but
the whole entire system is completely and utterly fubar, and
we need a reset. But the media is too busy
carrying water for their buddies on whatever side of the
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aisle they fall on, and lying to the American public
and gaslighting you on a regular basis about bullshit that
doesn't even matter. Like Ukraine, there's so much bull that
the Congress has been involved in that does not matter,
that has drawn attention away from real problems in this country.
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And it's unacceptable. It's just unacceptable, and that is why
people like myself and other content creators have dropped all
pretenses of bullshit and dove into this case and put
every single person on blast was involved, be they Republican,
be they Democrat, be they independent, be they somebody that
you I'm speaking for myself here, especially even people that
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I looked up to previously to researching this case, like
Ronald Reagan. I don't look up to Ronald Reagan no more.
And I always knew that he wasn't a great guy,
but I, you know, appreciated the way he took on communism.
So it was Reagan was always somebody that I thought was,
you know, a good guy. And then I started researching
this case, and you know, I know for a fact
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that Reagan was not a good guy. Now and I
don't have any any qualms lighting the whole entire establishment
on fire. At this point, I'm not even I don't
even consider myself politically politically active anymore. Like I used
to really be involved in what was going on domestically
in this country until I found out it was all
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a shell game both sides, Republican and Democrat. They're both
playing a shell game, and they don't give a damn.
They don't care about the girls in this case, They
don't give they don't give damn about these survivors. If
either side cared, there would have already been congressional hearings
bringing all these people to heal. But instead all we
have is more handwringing and more political bickering and more infighting,
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while the rest of us are standing around yelling from
rooftops that we want justice, and neither side will. Apparently
neither side cares enough to bring it to us. So
that's okay, that's all right. We'll just ignore them like
everybody should be doing at this point in this country.
Ignore those idiots in DC, ignore those morons in Washington,
and us together as a community, we'll put this will
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put all the evidence together, will put it all in
a nice little silver platter, and then the prosecutors and
the federal government will have no choice but to pursue
this matter fully, because once the people in America find
out what truly occurred in this case, once the people
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truly understand the gravity of what occurred in this case,
and once the people truly understand that these aren't just
rumors and this isn't just some conspiracy theory, once they
understand that Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts were trafficking women
and children with the consent of the intelligence agencies here
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and abroad. The people are going to freak out. They're
at a point now, there's a tipping point in this country,
and now is the time to drive this point home, folks.
Now is the time to make sure that we let
the intelligence apparatus know that they are no longer in charge.
It is time for the American Spring. It is time
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for the people to take our government back, and it
is time for the people to demand justice. If you'd
like to contact me, you can do that at Bobby
Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's bobbycap Ucci at ProtonMail
dot com. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the
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Epstein Chronicles. Hope everybody's having a great Friday morning so far,
and hopefully all of you are going to have this
weekend off. For those of you who celebrate Easter, hope
you guys get to celebrate it with your families, friends,
loved ones, whatever. And for those of you who don't, well,
I just hope you have a fantastic weekend. As for
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our topic for today, we're going to talk about Jean
Luke Brunell, and how some of the biggest retailers in
the industry were spooked by this guy's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein,
with the allegations against Jean Luke Brunell. But yet somehow
the company MC two, their modeling agency, they still had inroads.
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They were still getting work, they were still sending girls
to these different gigantic retailers. And as you'll see in
this article, Jean Luke Brunell's partner was very, very concerned,
so concerned in fact, that in business with Jean Luke Brunell.
All Right, so this article is from Fortune dot Com
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and the headline is major retailers had tremendous concerns about
fashion model scouts ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Well, not concerns
enough to stop doing business with them, huh, Not concerns
enough to send Jean Luke Brunell an MC two packin Huh.
You See, it's only when this stuff is brought to
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light that these people have concerns, right, It's never when
they're actually getting into bed with these scumbags when everybody
knows who they are. Look, you really mean to tell
me there weren't rumors around Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell
when these people originally got into business with them. The
only time it's a problem is when it's exposed. This
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article was authored by Kim Bassen, Jordan Hallman, and Bloomberg,
and it was originally published August nineteenth of two thousand
and nineteen. Several of the biggest retailers in the US,
including Nordstrom's, Macy's, Sacksvith Avenue, and Nieman Marcus, were named
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as previous clients by the president of a modeling agency
with deep ties to Jeffrey Epstein, as allegations of sex
trafficking swirled around the financier and the firm. You mean
the pedophile, And it's funny that they say, oh, he
has deep ties to Epstein. Well, the owner of the company,
Jean Luke Brunell, started the company with seed money from
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Jeffrey Epstein. But let's not act like Jean Luke Brunell
is some good guy that you want to be associated with. Either.
Even if he wasn't rolling around with Epstein, this guy
would have still been molesting people, in raping people. Additionally,
store officials five years ago were worried about Epstein's association
with the agency. According to an internal agency letter, the
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agency MC two Model Management is owned by industry veteran
Jean Luke Brunell. His relationship to Epstein, who committed suicide
last week, allegedly is documented at least as far back
as two thousand and two, when flight logs placed Brunell
on Epstein's private plane for a flight from Florida to
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the Bahamas. Look, we all know now how deep that
relationship was, how close Epstein and Jean Luke Brunell were,
and that Jean Luke Brunell served a key role within
Epstein's criminal enterprise. This guy was getting girls, securing girls
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from all over the world, mainly war torn nations, places
like Eastern Europe, on the Balkans, you name it, any
place where there's strife and suffering, you could be sure
that Jean Luke Brunell and scoundrels like him are there
looking to exploit that. So Jean lu Brunell has been
doing that forever for Jeffrey Epstein. And let's not forget
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all of the rumors and what we have heard about
Na Marchinkova. Epstein bought her from her parents. The whole
sordid tale, and all of that was facilitated by Jean
Luke Brunel jelllog show. Brunell visited Epstein while he was
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serving a thirteen month sentence for procuring an underage girl
for prostitution. Brunell also housed models in Epstein's Manhattan apartments,
according to a sworn deposition by a former company bookkeeper. Look,
we all know that it was the apartment building on
sixty six. They would bring these girls in and they
would give them these stories about how they're gonna be
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these huge models in America, how they're gonna work for
all of these companies. But instead they'd be forced to
go out as escorts for Epstein's buddies, for Jean Luke
Brunell's buddies. Pretty amazing that nobody else has been wrapped
up in this. Huh, I guess there were no Johns. Yes,
nobody was buying the services. And this is all a
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figment of everybody's imagination. By twenty fourteen, Brunell's business partner,
Jeff Fuller was concerned that the relationship with Epstein could
be damaging. Oh. By twenty fourteen, huh this Fuller, gentleman
Jeff Fuller real quick to catch on. In a letter
reviewed by Bloomberg News, Fuller told Brunell that he was
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getting a tremendous amount of worries from our clients about
the ties to Epstein. Then went on to list as
clients nord Trom Incorporated, Macy's Incorporated, Sacks, Fifth Avenue, Neeman Marcus, JC,
Penny Company, Cohle's Corporation, Target Corporation, Sears, and Belk. So
all of those companies that were getting girls from MC two.
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More than likely at some point we're using trafficked girls.
That's just the reality of the situation. If Brunell is involved,
you can almost guarantee that there's trafficked girls. In that
same year, Nordstrom executives wrote a letter offering her full
support and unqualified support for Brunel's full full and unqualified
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support of Brunell's application for an one visa, the work
permit the US government awards to extraordinary individuals. Well, we
all know how extraordinary Jean Luke Brunel is. Funny that
he was able to facilitate this as well and get
this kind of waiver. I'm sure it has nothing to
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do with you know, a little back room greasing of
the palms or anything like that. While the retailers are
said to have been clients of MC two aren't accused
of wrongdoing, they join a long and growing list of
powerful people and institutions in Epstein's orbit. Look, is there
anywhere that this dude and his corrosive disgustingness didn't seep into?
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Is there any part of the the establishment, Because every
time you turn around, there's a new part of the
establishment that Epstein has his fingerprints all over. Nordstrom declined
to comment for this story. It last worked with MC
two in January of twenty seventeen, according to a person
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familiar with the company's model booking. J C. Penny and
Target declined to comment for this story. Nieman, Marcus, Cole, Sears,
and Belk they didn't respond to requests, course not. Why
would they look. The last thing you want is your
name associated with Jeffrey Epstein. But you know a good
way to avoid that, well, don't be associated with Jeffrey Epstein.
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Sachs doesn't currently work with MC two, according to a
person familiar with the company's booking. Macy's also said MC
two is not on its active roster, though it had
been used on a handful of very small projects. Company
spokeswoman Blair Rosenberg set in an email the person who
engaged then was not aware of the concerns. Oh, I'm
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sure nobody. Look, nobody knew. These guys were pillars of
the community, you know, real salt and earth types. There
was never any suspicion that Epstein or Brunell were perverts.
Give me a break. There was so many tells, so
many signs, and people who missed those signs I believe
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missed them willingly because they knew they were going to
benefit financially. Nordstroom shares rose two point two percent to
twenty five twenty five dollars and eighty seven cents on
Monday at nine thirty eight am in New York. J C.
Penny was a little changed. Blah blah blah. Still we're
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gonna skip that part. Don't need any of that. Those
were old numbers of what the stock was doing in
twenty nineteen. Earlier accusations against Brunell. In December twenty fourteen,
Brunell was accused of trafficking underage girls to farm them
out to friends, including Epstein. According to court documents filed
by one of Epstein's accusers. Brunell denied all trafficking claims
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in twenty fifteen and hasn't released a public statement since.
Oh yeah, well, we all know that he is a
very honorable guy. And that's why, you know, very honorable
men like him, they end up killing themselves in prison
when they're under all kinds of charges of human trafficking
and rape and assault and all kinds of things. He
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had no idea what was going on. He wasn't involved.
This dude was a key component, one of the sickest
of the group. In fact, Brunell and MC two came
back into the spotlight last month after allegations against Epstein
resurfaced and cast a shadow on longtime associate Les Wexner,
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the CEO of L Brands, which owns Victoria's Secret. Wexner
says his relationship with Epstein and did nearly twelve years ago,
but the modeling agency and its owner had business relationships
that extended far beyond L Brands. Yeah, you think advocating
for models. It's not clear how extensively or for how
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long the retailers worked with MC two, but the connections
draw fresh scrutiny to the relationship retailers have with the
modeling industry, which is largely unregulated. Retailers often work with
several modeling agencies, using a casting director to determine who
to book for fashion shows, catalog shoots, and other projects. Meanwhile,
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a lot of these girls are being abused and trafficked. Look,
I have zero faith in the modeling industry. Just about
everything I've learned about the modeling industry has sickened me.
And I've said it once and I'll say it a
million more times. If I had a daughter or a
son who wanted to be in that industry, I would
not leave them alone for one minute while they were
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underage with one of these people. Never once. Maybe I'm
being too cautious or going overboard or whatever, but I've
seen enough, folks, I've pulled that curtain way back, and
the eyeful that I have received in the past three
years enough to turn anyone's stomach. Sarah Zif, executive director
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of modeling advocacy group The Model Alliance, says retailers have
the same obligation to models that apparel makers have to
garment workers. Retailers have an interest and responsibility to make
sure that abuses aren't happening on their watch. He said,
it's a workforce that's uniquely vulnerable, and there's a lack
of accountability. And you wonder why all of these dudes
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get involved in the world of modeling or pageants or
you know, talent shows or whatever. And inevitably all of
these dudes that get involved are like these old, gross
ass creepy dudes. The fuck does John Luke Brunel know
about beautiful women and modeling? You see this guy, He
looks like he's ripped right from the pages of some
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bad British comic as one of the villains. No women
trying to hang out with this dude if it wasn't
for his modeling business. In fact, some stores have policies
in place to protect employees, including contractors like models, from abuse,
a fact which concerned mc to President Fuller. According to
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his email, of course, it did look and this Fuller
guy to act like he had no idea. You mean
to tell me you're in business with Jean Luke Brunell
and you have no idea who he is, or what
he's up to, or where the seed money came for
your company? Okay, buddy, sure, we believe you. It really
worries me as some of those companies have associated themselves
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from what they believe to be questionable companies, Fuller wrote
in a two thousand and four email to Brunell, so
far that has not been a problem, but it could
come up in the future. It hasn't been a problem yet,
and it's because the doors weren't blown open yet. But
these companies knew. They're not stupid. They all had access
to the internet. They all knew when Epstein got arrested.
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They all heard the rumors. They didn't care. Brunell's ascendancy
as a model scout. Brunell cannot be reached for comment
through multiple calls to MC two well breaking news. You're
not going to be able to reach him any time
soon either, unless you got a direct line to Hell.
He began his career in Paris in the mid seventies.
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In the eighties, he worked with Eileen Ford's modeling most
prominent executive. She severed ties to Brunell after allegations of
sexual assault surfaced in a nineteen eighty eight report on
his operations in Paris by the CBS News investigative program
sixty minutes. No big deal though, Macy's will still work
with you, Nieman, Marcus Sachs, J C. Pennies, Sears, come
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on down on sexual assaulters. We welcome one in all.
In nineteen ninety five, he founded an agency called Karen
Models of America, which later became MC two, and at
some point became friends with Epstein, who invested one million
dollars in his modeling business. According to a twenty ten
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deposition by a former company bookkeeper, the agency has denied
receiving such funds. Oh yeah, I'm sure that Jeffrey Epstein
and Jean Luke Brunell only met at this time. These
guys have been friends way longer than that. Look, this
was all part of the scheme, part of the plot.
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They needed Brunel. He was a key component for what
they had to do. He was bringing these girls in,
and he was bringing them in at a huge clip,
and the cover was, Oh, they're coming in for modeling gigs.
Oh let me get a visa for them. But the
reality was something much much darker. Brunell visited Epstein while
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he was in jail in two thousand and eight, According
to visitor logs and flight records, show that he traveled
on Epstein's private jet along with Glenn Maxwell, the woman
accused in civil lawsuits of procuring teenage girls for the
pedophile Yeah, well a little bit more than that now, huh.
Going to prison for the rest of her life for
human trafficking while Jean Luke Brunell is burning for eternity.
(33:25):
Epstein also allowed the agent to house models and a
handful of Manhattan apartments. According to the bookkeeper's statement, one
Nordstrom executive vouched for Brunel and his skills as a
model scout. In twenty fourteen, Liza Maslow, Nordstrom's lead model booker,
sent a letter to US Citizenship and Immigration Services in
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support of Brunell's application for a visa. In her letter,
she wrote that mister Jean Luke Brunell is an art
director and talent coordinator of the highest caliber, whose technical
excellence and creative vision have lifted him to the top
of a profession. I'm sure it had nothing to do
with his exploitation of women or the fact that he
had Jeffrey Epstein and all of Epstein's powerful friends backing him.
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Nordstrom declined to make Maslow available for an interview. Maslow
didn't respond to phone calls or social media messages seeking comment.
Why should they, Why should there be any accountability? In
twenty fifteen, Brunell sued Epstein, claiming that his former friend
had ruined his reputation to the point that it was
nearly impossible to run his modeling business. The suit was
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thrown out because Epstein was never served. You know, it's
because Brunell knew the score, bro, You were just as
deep in it as Epstein, running around talking about your
reputation's been sullied. MC two continues to do business out
of offices in Miami. In Tel Aviv, Brunell was searching
for potential models on behalf of MC two in Eastern
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Europe Shocker, Ukraine, Hush Shocker and Russia. Oh Another Shocker
had recently as twenty fifteen. According to a promotional video
recorded that fall, my business partner Jean Luke Brunell is
one of the last legendary agents in the business, and
he's highly involved in the recruitment and scouting of some
of the best girls that we've been launching currently, Fuller
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says in the video. We're launching just like a whole
new crop of girls right now. Oh, isn't that great?
I'm sure all of those girls had fantastic experiences. Mister
Fuller Brunell has since disappeared from the public eye. His
current whereabouts remain unknown. Well, I guess that's not the
(35:39):
case anymore. Huh. We all know where he's at now.
But when this article was first published, there was a
lot of talk about where Jean lu Brunell was. Was
he with Glenn Maxwell? Were they hiding out together? Where
the hell were these people? As we all know, well
we found out, didn't we. Jean lu Brunell ended up
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getting hell than Paris, and of course Maxwell ends up
getting popped in New Hampshire. But folks, it's just another
example of how disgusting the modeling industry is and all
of these retailers that use these models. There needs to
be some accountability because it is a fact that these
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girls from MC two that were being brought in by
Jean Luke Brunell, maybe not all of them, but a
large number or at the very least sum were trafficked
and were being victimized by Epstein Brunel and who knows
who else. So these retailers, these big time places like
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you know, Sacks Fifth Avenue. They're gonna have to do
a better job. And the modeling industry itself needs to
be regulated because we all know they can't regulate themselves.
All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this episode. Obviously,
more is certainly on the way. If you'd like to
contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at
(37:02):
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