Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein's Former Butler Juan Alessi And His Testimony At Maxwell's Trial (1/2/26)

During the Ghislaine Maxwell trial, Juan Alessi—Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime estate manager—testified as a key insider who provided jurors with a ground-level view of how Epstein’s properties operated on a daily basis. Alessi described his responsibilities managing Epstein’s homes, particularly in Palm Beach, and explained how young girls were regularly brought to the residence for what were described as “massages.” He testified that this was not an occasional or hidden occurrence but a routine part of life at the house, with frequent visits by underage girls and systems in place to manage their arrivals and departures. Alessi also confirmed that payments were made to the girls, reinforcing the prosecution’s argument that the abuse was organized and transactional rather than spontaneous or misunderstood.

Alessi’s testimony was especially damaging because it placed Ghislaine Maxwell directly inside the operational structure of Epstein’s abuse. He told the jury that Maxwell was regularly present at the Palm Beach home, was aware of the girls coming and going, and at times interacted with them herself. His account undermined the defense’s attempt to portray Maxwell as detached from Epstein’s criminal conduct, instead depicting her as someone who knew exactly what was happening inside the house. By confirming the routine nature of the visits and Maxwell’s proximity to them, Alessi’s testimony helped establish knowledge, continuity, and intent—critical elements for the prosecution’s case.



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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
At VMware dot com. Stein chronicles today March the fourth
day of the Glaine Maxwell trial, and we saw three
witnesses take the stand today. None of those witnesses were accusers,
so it wasn't as emotionally charged, but there was a

(00:20):
significant portion of today's proceedings that were spent on one
of the witnesses, and that witness is Juanna Lessi. Now,
wan A Lessie was Jeffrey Epstein's butler slash housekeeper and
somebody who was pretty much always around, and in his

(00:43):
testimony today he goes into some of the duties that
he was responsible for while working for Epstein and Maxwell.
You see Glenn Maxwell's defense, they want to set it
up like Glaine Maxwell wasn't in a position of power,
like Gleanne Maxwell wasn't somebody who was calling the shots

(01:04):
in a leadership position. But what this testimony shows, and
what I believe we'll see coming in the future is
going to show, is that is a fantasy. Glenn Maxwell
was calling the shots. She was the lady of that
house and her word was you know, the final say.

(01:27):
She spoke and the employees had to listen. And that's
what Juana Lessie gets at today with some of his testimony. Now,
my question is obviously with Wuana Lessi. He says he
knows that he saw some of these girls and they
were underage, and all this other stuff going on at
this house. Why not come forward previously? Why do you

(01:50):
have to wait so long? And I wonder if he
was offered some sort of deal by the federal government
to give this testimony or this is just something he
is doing of his free will. So that's definitely something
interesting as far as what has brought him forward as

(02:10):
of now and not in the past. Right all of
a sudden, he's willing to testify. You were in Epstein's
employee for a long long time, buddy. You saw a
lot of very dirty, devious things, and you were there
right at the heart of the operation while all of
this was going on. So I'd like to get an

(02:31):
answer for why it's taken so long for you to
come and put these people on blast. And you could
definitely set it up and frame it that Alessi took
part as an enabler and somebody who helped facilitate this
trafficking ring. Right, Obviously his defense would be, well, I

(02:52):
didn't know, but how far does that go with the law.
Oh I don't know. Tell that to the judge and
see how works out. So that's why I'm wondering if
maybe he was cut some sort of deal for his testimony.
You know, the government loves to do that. They'll give
deals to anybody if it is going to move the

(03:13):
goalposts for them and they're going to be able to
get their conviction. They gave Sammy the Bull Gravano a deal.
An old boy admitted to killing like eighteen people, probably
had about fifty or sixty, but you know, admitted to
the eighteen and the government was more than happy to
give him a deal as long as they could get Gotti.
So I don't have any evidence of that one way

(03:35):
or the other. And I haven't seen any of that
or any conversation talking about that in any of the
articles I've been reading. So I'm gonna keep looking to
see how this all came about with his testimony. But
I would guess, and again this is a guess here,
that the government leaned on him in one way or
the other, maybe threatened conviction or something like that. But

(04:01):
it's very questionable to me that all of a sudden
now he wants to talk. When Jeffrey Epstein got that
cush ass deal, he should have come forward then and said, hey,
look he shouldn't get this deal. This dude's a predator.
This dude is bring him little girls to the house
at a insane clip. But he didn't do that, and

(04:25):
neither did any of the other co conspirators. And that's
where the big problem comes in, where when you try
and set them up as victims, you can't set up
Sarah Kellen Vickers as Sarah Kelln Vickers as a victim.
She had every chance in the world to turn on Epstein,
to go to the authorities. She didn't do any of that.

(04:49):
In fact, she stayed in touch with them, kept in contact,
kept you know, being his pal, and the whole nine
you talk about Leslie Off, same thing. All of these people,
all of these co conspirators, every last one of them

(05:09):
that has something to do with Epstein's enterprise, has to
do with the facilitation of the trafficking. Because it's obvious
to anybody who's paying attention at this point, and obviously
that's a lot of you right now, that this wasn't
just you know, a guy and a girl who decided
to come up with this plot and put it into

(05:29):
motion all on their own. There are a lot of
moving parts here, and again, as we get deeper into
this trial, hopefully some of that stuff will come to light.
But I'll be posting context episodes as this whole entire
thing continues to highlight some of that stuff, because it's

(05:53):
very important to understand the scope of everything that went
on here and to understand that it wasn't just Epstein
and Maxwell doing all of this on their own. The
evidence points to something completely different. And when you're running
a criminal conspiracy like this, a criminal enterprise, you have
to have many different people under your umbrella that are

(06:15):
going to make it work. You have to have accountants, lawyers,
lieutenants such as the core for Maxwell, Leslie Groth, Adriana Ross,
and all of these things have to work in cohesion
for this to be able to happen the way it did.

(06:37):
So all of these other people that helped make this happen,
there's no way that they shouldn't be culpable for what occurred.
And I think one of the biggest travesties about the
whole entire thing here is that point that there were

(06:58):
a lot of other people involved and I'm not talking
about people on the outer edges either. I'm talking about
people who were integral to the operation of this criminal enterprise.
And if it was any other sort of criminal enterprise,
these people who were involved, lieutenants and street captains, if
it was say a mafia enterprise, they'd all get snagged

(07:21):
up too. Right. They don't just go after the person
who was in charge, the person in a leadership role.
They usually go after everybody, and it's usually from the
bottom up. So I'm wondering if they offered any other
immunity deals, if they offered any deals at all to
get testimony. So that's one thing I took away from

(07:45):
the testimony of Alessi today and just interesting all around
that now it's time for him to talk. So with
that said, let's take a look at some of the
back and forth today in the courtroom, and we'll go
over the bit of transcripts that are available to us
or court notes i should say, that are available to us,

(08:07):
and try and build a better picture of what went
on in that courtroom today. Now, remember these aren't the
full This isn't the full manty, right, this isn't the
full back and forth. This just is a basic idea
of what went on in the courtroom and what was
said and the gist of the conversation between the prosecution

(08:27):
and the defense without us having a call in line here,
which is ridiculous, like nobody's business. Considering we've had a
call in line pretty much for all of the proceedings
leading up to this. We have to rely on those
kinds of notes. So it does at least build more
of a picture of what's going on and give us

(08:47):
a better idea of what's going on inside of the courtroom.
It's still not the complete full manti right, So anyway,
let's take a look at the proceedings and look at
some of the back and forth between the witnesses and
the lawyers. So the first person who was called to

(09:09):
the stand today was a gentleman named Paul Kane of
New York City's Professional Children's School. And when they had
him on the stand, they were asking him about an exhibit,
and that exhibit was Exhibit seven twenty one, and they
asked him, do you recognize it? This is the prosecutors
asking the questions right now. By the way, Kane says,

(09:32):
it's an enrollment application for a student Maureen Comy. The
prosecutor says, don't say the name is an accurate copy
to that, Kane replies, yes, it is, And after he
is saying that, he says that there is an objection
from Maxwell's lawyer, Pagliuccia, and he says it's hearsay. So

(09:56):
to counter that, the prosecution responds and says that it
it is a business record and that it's something that
should be put into the docket. Judge Nathan agrees with
the prosecution and she overrules their objection. So it goes
on and Maxwell's lawyer asks if she can question the

(10:17):
witness Nathan. Judge Nathan gives gives her a permission, and
the lawyer goes on to ask the professional Children's School
doesn't verify the accuracy of the info on the form,
does it? Cane responds, I think they do. Maxwell's lawyer
says all of it. Kane says that I don't know

(10:39):
Maxwell's lawyer so the info and as she's asking the question,
she's cut off by Maureen Comy, who says, your honor
may I And they go on through their whole entire thing,
and the prosecutor asks what happens to the info coming in.
Cane responds, contact the family by phone, then invite them

(11:00):
to toward the school and have a conversation. Comy goes
on to ask does the school rely on the form,
which Kane responds yes. So what they're trying to do
here is established that whoever Jane is went to this

(11:22):
school or applied to this school, and that the benefactor,
who we see right here coming up is Jeffrey Epstein.
So the prosecutor asks what grade was the person applying
for and Kane says the twelfth grade, and it said
due to move to New York. So the prosecution asked

(11:46):
who is listed as the person of financial responsibility and
that's when Kine says, Jeffrey Epstein. So what they're trying
to establish here is that Jeffrey Epstein was acting as
a benefactor to Jane and that he was offering her
obviously financial rewards to stay in his sphere or to

(12:08):
think that the behavior that he was engaging in was normal.
So they're trying to set that up and show on
paper that Epstein was involved in all of these girls' lives.
And if anyone knows anything about Epstein, they know he
wasn't some just give her to give. When he gave money,
it was because he expected something in return, one way

(12:31):
or the other. Now, Maxwell's lawyers asked him, do you
have any idea He says, excuse me, you have no
idea of mister Epstein actually paid, and Kin says, I
do not. So Maxwell's lawyer goes on to ask for
the mother, does it say unemployed? And again another shot

(12:53):
at the mom, right, trying to establish that this is
about money. This is a money grab, that's all it is.
So when you see them and you see them defending Maxwell,
it's really always the two different tactics. Right, you don't
know what you're talking about, you've misremembered, or b you're
trying to get some money. You're trying to make a

(13:15):
little bit of money out of this, and that's all
it is. Maxwell The lawyer asks who is a listed agent?
And to this the prosecution objects. Judge Nathan decides to
let the jurors look at it at that point, and
Maxwell's lawyers tell them to look at the name in
the corner, the name of the prior principle, you don't

(13:38):
have to say them for the record, no further questions.
So again basically what they were trying to do. Here
is established that Jeffrey Epstein is, in fact or was
a benefactor. Here. Now the next witness that they call up,
because that was all there is to it for that witness.
It was very short, very to the point, and obviously

(14:03):
they were just looking to establish that Epstein on paper
here was the benefactor and try to show the jury
that Epstein did in fact do this kind of thing
to try and get into the good graces of the
family to therefore get himself access to these children on
their own. So the next witness is doctor Lisa Rocchio,

(14:26):
and she has a master's and PhD from the University
of Rhode Island, and they go into it. She's an
expert in grooming, child grooming and all of that kind
of thing, so she deals with all kinds of really dirty,
disgusting stuff. They get her on the stand after all

(14:50):
of her credentials are read and all of that, and
Coley asks, did you interview anyone in this case, to
which the witness responds no, call me asked, does your
pay depend on the outcome of the trial? Rochio says no.
Prosecution asks again what is grooming, to which Rocchio responds

(15:12):
strategies to get children into sex. So she's trying to
establish that what Epstein was up to was in fact
grooming him and Maxwell. So Maxwell would go out, she'd
find these girls, she'd bring them into the sphere, and
then she'd normalize the behavior. You hear about all of
the other girls and women that were there, topless, all

(15:35):
of them that were engaging in the massaging, et cetera,
et cetera, and it becomes a normalized process for these
girls who were being brought into this Rokio goes on
to say, I've seen grooming in the boy Scouts through
a special camping trip or jewelry, anything to make the
children feel they are appreciated. So again trying to establish

(15:58):
when you're ep someone like Epstein buying these children who
are basically strangers all of these gifts and showering them
with school scholarships and all this other stuff, it wasn't
coming from the bottom of his heart. Right now. I
don't get me wrong, there are some good people out
there who want to help and do that kind of thing.

(16:19):
But for the most part, especially when we're dealing with
somebody like Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell, we know what
their motivations were. The prosecution goes on, how common is
it for a child to be repeatedly abused by the
same purp. Rokio responds, very common, it's by people close
to the child. Comy then asks what is a grooming environment.

(16:45):
Rokio responds, the purp develops trust with people around the child,
for example with the parents, and again setting the stage,
wants to show the jury that this is how the
process works. This is how it works, and when you
bring on a specialist who deals in this specifically, well

(17:06):
it goes a long way to the jury to show them,
you know, hey, look, this is how someone like Maxwell
engages in this sort of procedure. This is the surrounding
environment of it, and this is how it all takes place.
The gifts, the showering them with approval, making them feel

(17:28):
wanted and loved. And that's why they choose girls or
boys from broken homes, kids that don't have the loving
parents or the nurturing relationship with guardians, and that's why
these scumbag predators specifically go after children like this. After

(17:54):
a long public sidebar, they come back and the prosecution asks,
are victims of child sexual abuse likely to report it
to the police. Rokio says no. Prosecution says, how do
they talk about it to this Maxwell's lawyer. They object,
They say, no foundation and that's it to which is

(18:16):
it's sustained by Judge Nathan. So the question is reframed
by prosecution and they say, they ask what is the
long term impact. Rokio goes on to respond, there at
higher risk for adverse outcomes. Prosecution rests, and that they
give the witness over to the defense. So they're asking

(18:41):
about the long term outcome, right, what does this sort
of thing do in the long term? And obviously it
causes all sorts of mental issues, grief on PTSD, obviously anxiety,
all kinds of stuff that these people carry with them
for the rest of their lives. And it's not just

(19:03):
an incident where it happens and it's over and you know,
that's it. They move on and they forget about it.
So what they're trying to show is the actual blow
that it takes on these people, on these survivors, and
the impact in a long and lasting manner, because this

(19:25):
isn't something that you know, oh, well, I broke my arm,
I'll be over it. The next day. This is something
that they carry with them the rest of their lives,
and they you know, it's serious baggage. So they go
on to ask Rochio Maxwell's lawyers now, obviously, uh, doctor Rochio,

(19:46):
you have a forty five thousand dollars contract for this, correct?
Rokio responds yes, Maxwell's lawyer, if one had a brain injury,
it might be hard to remember, right to which prosecution objects,
and that objection is sustained by Judge Nathan. So they
were trying to hint that perhaps one of these survivors

(20:08):
has some sort of brain injury and might be hard
for them to remember. Like I said earlier, that's their line, right,
that's their strategy. Oh, you misremembered. So we're gonna be
seeing a lot of that throughout this whole entire thing,
for sure. Maxwell's lawyers go on to ask about alcohol,
and they say would that harm the recall too? And

(20:30):
to that once again objection, which is sustained, and Maxwell's
lawyer then asks, are you familiar with confabulation? To this,
the prosecution objects, but they're overruled Maxwell lawyer. Maxwell's lawyer says,
it's filling in the gaps to that another objection, which
this time it's sustained. Then Maxwell's lawyer goes and this

(20:55):
is one where I was like, are you kidding me
right now? You're really gonna go route? But Pagliuca did.
He said, my grandfather liked to take me to the
Bronx Zoo. Was that grooming? I don't know? Was it?
What did he do to you while you're at the
Bronx Zoo? Dude? Talk about conflating the issue and showing

(21:16):
disregard and no care for what these girls are saying
or what they went through. An absolute joke, honestly. But
I've come to expect that from Maxwell's team throughout this
whole entire thing, and they're going to continue down that path.
They're not going to take their foot off of the gas.
They understand that it's there. They have no hope when

(21:38):
it comes to the evidence here, they have zero hope
in my opinion, So they're going to continue to try
and demean the credibility. After that exchange, that was the
end of that for uh, for the for doctor Rochio,
and then they moved on to want a Lessie who

(22:00):
was the bulk of this day, and he was a butler.
He was Jeffrey Epstein's housekeeper, and he was somebody who
was always around Jeffrey Epstein during the time, especially when
all of this is alleged to have taken. So he

(22:21):
gets up on the stand and the first question that
they ask from Komy from the prosecution is where do
you come from? And he answers He's from Ecuador, says
he moved here in nineteen eighty four and he worked
for a wealthy family in Palm Beach. He was a
maintenance guy, and then he worked for mister Jeffrey Epstein.

(22:42):
So they go on to ask and this is a
doozy here, folks too, for those of you who are
locked in and you know what's going on. Prosecution asked,
how did you meet Epstein? And unless he responds with
I was working on mister Wexner's mother's house. Well, isn't
that nice? Isn't that nice? We met Jeffrey Epstein in
nineteen eighty four, Jeffrey Epstein unless Wexner at the very

(23:05):
least been friends since nineteen eighty four now correct. Now
we know that there's a bunch of other timelines out there.
I'm just going on, but by what we can talk
about you know, in court that's corroborated here in court
and documents and whatnot. But it establishes right away the
connection between Wexner and Epstein, another connection that nobody seems

(23:25):
to really care about. Now I shouldn't say nobody, but
the legacy media they really don't want anything to do
with it. A lot of independent content creators, a lot
of independent journalists have been shaking those bushes for a
long time, but wexner' is one of those guys that
people just don't want to take on. The Kolhar reality though,

(23:47):
is he was a huge factor in Jeffrey Epstein's life,
and he was a huge factor in everything Jeffrey Epstein,
you know, was up to financially at the very least,
and we can't forget he has I don't be accused
by Virginia Roberts of partaking in the abuse as well.
So Les Wexner is certainly somebody who deserves a little

(24:10):
bit more conversation, you would think, right, somebody who deserves
a little bit more of a chit chat perhaps, But
we do, you know, we don't. We don't have that
like we should. There's not as big of an investigation
as there should be, but it's it's interesting to see
that that that's established here by Alessi, who is in

(24:36):
this photo. They obviously show him a photo and he says,
mister Jeffrey Epstein, when mister Epstein was in Palm Beach,
where did you sleep? Alessie says, I had a room there.
Prosecution asks who else worked there? Alessie says, I brought
my wife to help me and other girls. So obviously
he's talking about, you know, the Core four and the

(24:59):
other girls we're working on the property. Sarah kellen Vickers, especially,
how did things change after miss Maxwell got involved? Unless
he responds, things were less cordial, less conversation. I was
not allowed to see mister Epstein anymore unless he asked
me questions. Miss Maxwell said, don't look at his eyes,

(25:22):
look at another part of him. So Maxwell comes in
and she takes the reins right. Does that sound like
somebody who is being a victim to you? Does that
sound like somebody who is out of control, meaning somebody
who doesn't have their finger on the button of control.
Course not. She is running the whole house, She's running everything.

(25:42):
She's making sure that everything, everything is moving in the
proper manner, and not only that, according to the survivors,
there was times that she took part. So we know
that Maxwell was very rude and looked down on other people,

(26:04):
according to reports from people who knew her, and listening
to Alessie's testimony here, it's rather obvious how she looked
at the help. So they go to lunch after that,
but come back right into the questioning and prosecution tells

(26:26):
the ask to pull up Exhibit two ninety seven. They asked,
mister Alessie what it is, and it's a blueprint, Uh,
you know, a picture of the bedroom, et cetera, et cetera,
And it's the second floor. There was a huge bathroom
up there as well, he says. And what's the other bathroom,
asked prosecution. Alessie responds, that's miss Maxwell's bathroom. Prosecution says,

(26:50):
but they both came off the master bedroom. Unlessie says, yes,
where did miss Maxwell sleep in the Palm Beach house.
Maxwell's lawyer objection overruled and Alessi says she slept in
mister Epstein's bedroom, which is relatively interesting. But when you're
engaging in all of this kind of behavior, you know,

(27:13):
I wouldn't be shocked. Now, You'll never get me to
believe that Jeffrey Epstein and Glene Maxwell were ever in
love or anything like that. I've been pretty clear about
how I feel about that. This was a business relationship.
They were you know, maybe they were canoodling because you know,
whatever reason, but there was certainly no feelings of love there.

(27:35):
They were playing a part, in my opinion, and all
players have to play their part on the stage, right,
And if that was going to give them more of
an inn to polite society of them being presented as
a couple, then that's what they were going to do.
So I don't buy for a minute that they were

(27:55):
ever in love or anything like that. The prosecution goes
on to ask how many times did you see females
by mister Epstein's pool unless he responds hundreds. Prosecution then
says how often were they topless? Unless he says seventy
five percent of the time, And that corresponds with a

(28:16):
lot of what we've heard in the past about what
Epstein was up to with the at the pools and stuff,
having naked girls there, girls with their tops off, and
the behavior being normalized. Remember that's all part of this
he wanted to normalize all of this behavior, so the
new girls that were brought in they would just seamlessly
transition into this and not ask any questions. And none

(28:39):
of that would have been possible, none of it, in
my opinion, without Glenn Maxwell and her facilitation of all
of this. Prosecution then goes on to ask about Little
Saint James Island and Alessie says, I was on a
cruise with my wife to Saint Thomas and they picked
us up and showed us Little Saint James. It was huge.

(29:00):
Prosecution asks did you visit any of miss Maxwell's properties,
and Alessie responds her town home in London. She invited us.
It had a red front door. So this is the
muse house in London that Maxwell just recently sold. And
this is also allegedly the place where Prince Andrew aka

(29:22):
the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family had relations with
Virginia and sexually abused her while she was being trafficked
by Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. So that's a pretty
significant mention. Although it doesn't really hold any water here
or have any kind of, you know, impact one way

(29:44):
or the other. It's just an interesting tidbit considering the
parallel lawsuit that we see that Virginia has right now
going against Prince Andrew. Now they're talking about a booklet.
So the prosecution asked to show them Government Exhibit six

(30:05):
h six and what it was was a checklist, right,
and it was fifty eight pages long. So the prosecution
says to him, what is it and unless you responded
that it's a list of what we're supposed to do
to maintain the house. So he had like a whole
a fifty eight page punch list to maintain the house.

(30:26):
Imagine that here's your fifty eight page book and this
is what I want you to make sure the house
looks like. So they were very particular about the house.
They wanted it to look like a five star resort.
They wanted to make sure that it was always, you know,
in that sort of state. But instead of hiring a

(30:49):
whole team of people Epstein's cheap ass and Maxwell's cheap ass,
they had one guy do it all. So it was
probably not the funt on his time in the world. Right,
if you're the hired help working for Jepstein, Jeffrey Epstein
and Glenn Maxwell and as part of his duties with
that checklist was to hear nothing, say nothing, and speak nothing.

(31:14):
So everything was very clandestine with them, and he had
that whole entire book that he had to adhere to.
So after the prosecution was done with Alessi, after they

(31:35):
asked the question about the fifty eight page book, it
was time for Maxwell's lawyers to dive in, and Maxwell's
lawyers started out, when you left, you didn't have this
in your possession. Did you talking about the book? Unless
he responded no, I did not. Then Maxwell's lawyer said,
but this book was created after you left, at least
by the date on it. So what they're trying to

(31:57):
do is establish that a Lessie is misremembering as well
here that a Lessi also doesn't know what he's talking about.
That's what they're That's what they're looking at here. That's
what they're trying to establish here, and it is rather
funny that they're trying that same tactic with a Lessie

(32:18):
as well. After a long sidebar, Maxwell's lawyers go on
to say, as you sit here today, nineteen years later,
you have no idea where Exhibit fifty two has been.
And they're again trying to establish chain of custody if
it was tampered with, et cetera, et cetera. Maxwell's lawyer

(32:42):
goes on to say, you said the book was two
inches thick, but Exhibit fifty two is a quarter inch thick.
Correct Alessi says yes, Maxwell's lawyer, A book you were
talking about was from New York, right, unless he goes
on to say yes, and then they go on to
ask about post it the post it notes and the

(33:05):
post it notes weren't there? Right Unless he says right,
Then prosecution says aka, jumps in and asks did you
take messages for mister Epstein? How if he didn't want
to talk or call or wasn't there? So he was
taking messages for Epstein when people would call or whatever,
and he'd put it down in the book. Maxwell's lawyers

(33:29):
now again ask there are a number of pages without
dates next to the names. Do you know that? Unless
he responds, I guess so. Now prosecution admits some sealed exhibits.
They're not to be put on the screens or anything
like that. Prosecution goes on to ask what supplies did
you buy for the massages? Unless he responds no, oils

(33:53):
I was Maxwell's lawyers. They object to this, no doubt
about it. The last thing they want to do is
have this line of question and continue on. Prosecution goes
on to ask, did miss Maxwell give you supplies? Unless
he responds exotic oils for other countries. Prosecution was mister

(34:15):
Epstein's door opened during the massages, Alessie? Never afterward I
went in with gloves. Prosecution, why ALESSI to clean up? Uh?
What again? If you're looking at this in a vacuum,
you're saying to yourself, well, it was just a massage,
what's the big deal? But that's not the case. Jeffrey

(34:38):
Epstein in his world, in his realm, massage was short
for sexual dalliances, for sexual assaults, basically of these girls
being trafficked, and it was a very unhidden secret that
that's what it meant. So Alessie was charged with, you know,

(35:02):
buying some supplies for these massages, and then afterwards he
was in there to clean up. Prosecution goes on, what
did you see after the massages towels? Unless he responds, yes,
but not all of the massages. Prosecution, do any incident
stand out in your mind? A LESSI I found a

(35:22):
large dildo. Prosecution, what did you do with it? ALESSI,
I washed it up, So again, he wasn't going it
wasn't a regular massage. But when's the last time you
went to a massage and there's a dildo in there
that has to be cleaned up by some guy with
gloves on. It's absurd that they would think anyone's buying

(35:45):
the nonsense that they're spinning. Oh, it was just a
dildo that was in there for no specific purposes. Just
happened to be a coincidence that it's in the same
massage room that Jeffrey Epstein's in with these miners, that
Glen Maxwell brought these miners too, Just a coincidence. They

(36:10):
go on to ask him where did you put the
dildough unless he responded he put it in Maxwell's bathroom
in a basket, they said, they asked him, how did
you know where to put it? Unless he says, I
knew everything going on in the house. Prosecution, what else
was in the basket unless he I saw pornographic tapes?

(36:30):
Well what And there should have been some more questions
in my opinion here, who was on these pornographic tapes?
What do you mean pornographic tapes. What kind of pornographic tapes?
And then him saying, well, I knew everything that you
know was going on in the house. Again, it leads
me to believe that how could he not be looked
at as a co conspirator right at the very least,

(36:53):
maybe the FEDS leaned on him to get this testimony,
because I don't see what he gaves from giving this
testimony all of these years later if he wasn't at
the very least threatened with some kind of indictment. How
often did you see the dildo, prosecution asks. He says

(37:16):
at least five times. Prosecution goes on to say, and
the other one the massager, did the ball at the
end vibrate? Alessi said yes, I would put it at
the top of mister Epstein's dresser. Again, what they're doing
is they're showing you. They're laying it out the whole scenario,
how the room was set up, how everything was ready
to go for Jeffrey Epstein and his disgusting, draconian, gross

(37:42):
ass proclivities, and how Maxwell facilitated all of this by
giving the directions to a Lessi on what supplies to buy,
then cleaning it up making letting him know where everything goes.
So you see how it was a well oiled machine
and what I mean by how it couldn't happen with
just one person trying to do this. They go on

(38:08):
after that questioning, and there was some stuff about Virginia
Roberts as well that I wanted to touch on. Uh
let's see here, let me grab my notes and find
where I put it. It was pretty uh crazy, because

(38:31):
here it is. Alessie says that, uh, Virginia Roberts, she
looks so young, she had blonde hair, and she had
a long white uniform like the nurses. Alessie says that he, uh,
he saw Virginia Roberts at mar A Lago Trump's club,
and that's where Glen Maxwell hopped out of the car
with the little pup named Max to try and, uh,

(38:52):
you know, talk to Virginia. And this is all from
Alessie's testimony today. Now, remember Virginia is not part of
this prosecution. But I don't know how that's possible. Honestly,
her allegations are so heinous that I guess we could
make a whole other episode about that gripe unless he

(39:16):
was also asked about Epstein and Jane going to the movies,
and unless he replied, yes, they went to the movies.
He corroborated multiple parts of Jane's testimony on the witness stand,
and he seemed to be a pretty solid witness for
the uh for the for the prosecution here. So they

(39:41):
go on with the questioning of him. But I wanted
to just add those other little tidbits from earlier on
with the Virginia and some of the other things that
he was talking about, because I believe that it's pretty
impactful stuff and pretty important when you're putting the pieces together.
It corroborates a lot of what Virginia has said, along

(40:04):
with all of the other evidence she has provided. But again,
it corroborates it, and it just adds more right, more
to the side of truth and makes it much harder
for these scumbags like the Joe exotic of the Winsor
family to defend because let's be real, they have not

(40:24):
brought anything to the table, no evidence to defend themselves.
Prosecution goes on to ask were there photographs of naked
women a lessie, yes, but those were kept in miss
Maxwell's desk. Prosecution, why did you leave mister Epstein's employ
I was sick and tired. Did you sign a non

(40:46):
disclosure agreement? Unless he says yes about both of them.
But one of the real reasons he left mister Epstein's
employ Let's remember, Alessie again, is not some you know,
hero of this story anything like that. He clipped sixty
three hundred bucks from Epstein and that's why he left
Epstein's employ Prosecution asked him, were you questioned by the

(41:10):
police after you took sixty three hundred dollars from mister Epstein?
Unless he responded yes, prosecution, were you arrested unless he no?
And at this point, the Prosecution's done with him, and
Maxwell's lawyers decide to start the cross examination tomorrow instead
because it's already four forty eight at this point and

(41:31):
they don't want to bleed over and go late. So
that's where we're at today, folks. Those are the three
witnesses that took the stand. Alessi's testimony I thought was
pretty helpful for the prosecution here, and I think that
it laid a lot of groundwork for what's coming next.

(41:52):
They're setting it up right. You have the specialists that
come on to set it up, and the whole entire
groundwork of how grooming was employed and how it was
Maxwell playing a pivotal figure of the whole entire ring
that they're putting out there for you, right, that's the
picture that's being painted, and I think they'll continue to

(42:14):
do that in the days moving forward with the other
witnesses they're going to bring up onto the stand. And
now remember there wasn't even an accuser who testified today,
so we got three more accusers who will be testifying,
plus a ton of other witnesses. So tomorrow morning we'll

(42:34):
be right back at it, folks. Same time, we'll be
doing the morning update, getting us prepared for what comes next,
and then of course the evening update, where we take
a look at what transpired in the courtroom. I'll also
have a couple of context episodes uploaded. I have one
about one a LESSI that I'm going to upload, and

(42:55):
a couple of other ones. So until tomorrow, folks, I
hope you all have a great night. Bring it Mary
reading to fifty Epstein chronicles. Today was the final day
of the first week of the Glen Maxwell trial, and
we saw testimony from three more witnesses now today there

(43:16):
was a lot of testimony that was excuse me, a
lot of the evidence that was introduced under seal, and
a lot of the evidence that was introduced during the
afternoon portion of this was visual in nature. So there's
not very much to go on as far as notes
for the duration of the afternoon sessions. A lot of

(43:41):
it was video and different packets that were prepared for
the jurors previously, and so there's really not too much
about that now. What we do know about those afternoon
back and forth, we're gonna get to for sure. And
Juan Alessi took the stand again today and he had

(44:04):
to face the cross examination from Glaine Maxwell's legal team,
and as you all know, they're playing for keeps. It's
a scorched earth policy for Glaine Maxwell's legal team, and
the same could be said for the way they went
about it today. They absolutely hammered a lessie on his
credibility and on a few of the other issues that

(44:28):
we touched on previously during his testimony, such as the
theft of the money, attempting to steal a gun from Epstein,
all kinds of wild stuff that go towards at the
very least giving him the appearance of not being a
credible witness. And that's what the defense is looking to do,
right in every aspect. They're looking to destroy the credibility

(44:52):
of any witness who might paint their client as guilty.
And wann Alessi, I, you know, he's not somebody who
I have ever thought of as a decent human being
in this whole entire ordeal, and him being a witness
for the prosecution, you would think that they would have

(45:15):
had him prepared to stand up a little bit better today.
But overall, I thought it was a relatively decent week
for the prosecution. Not great, but relatively decent week for them.
And I think that the testimony is just going to
get worse for the defense. Once the survivors are up

(45:38):
on the stand and they're giving their testimony and they're
telling their stories, it's going to be very impactful. And
guys like Juanna Lessie, well they just you know, they
fill in the blanks a little bit, right. They can
corroborate that Glaine was the lady of the house, that
Glaine was in Epstein's room ninety five percent of the time,

(46:00):
according to court testimony, so that puts her at the
scene of the crime, right, and I'm guessing that that
was the goal for prosecution. Now again we're talking about
somebody who is not a great human being and whose
credibility can easily be poked at by the defense. So

(46:23):
what it will come down to, like everything else in
this trial, is what the jury thinks about it. What
does the jury think. Did the defense make a good
enough argument and put him in such a bad light
that they don't even pay attention to his testimony, or
do they believe what mister Alessi said on the stand,
and you know, move forward with that thought in their

(46:45):
head as this trial goes along. And it looks to me,
and again, folks, I am certainly not a lawyer, right,
I'm not a journalist, nothing like that. But it looks
to me like the defense, I mean, the prosecution is
setting the foundation here for the way that they're going
to paint the picture, bringing these ex employees, other people
who might have been around as witnesses to set the scene.

(47:09):
And then the testimony from the survivors themselves. Well that's
the hammer strike, right, that's when you open up the
heavens and let loose. You build the foundation first, and
then you build the house on top of it. So
I'm guessing that's what the prosecution is doing right now.
But like I said earlier, there was a lot of

(47:31):
things that were sealed today and I'm not a fan
of that at all. For those of you who have
listened to my podcast for the last two and a
half years, you know how I feel about transparency, especially
in cases like this when there's been a complete lack thereof.
So I think it's important to have as much transparency
as possible here. And it was already beyond the pail

(47:53):
that there wasn't a call in line established. So now
you're going to continue to you know, these transparent games,
at least transparency games, I mean, and keep things sealed
as they're being introduced as evidence. So there was a
whole bunch of that today. Not really a big fan,
and again I'm not in that courtroom right I don't

(48:15):
know what the motivations are to keep it sealed, but
I'm working off of the premise that I'm just tired
of transparent no transparency in this case in general, and
it is long beyond time that this whole entire thing
gets aired out, that more people know what's going on
here or what went on here, And there are so

(48:37):
many people who are interested in this case now that
had no interest in it previously. I can't tell you
how many people I have had contact me that I'm
talking about, people in my personal life who have never
really paid attention to my yelling and screaming from every
mountaintop about this, who are now interested in what's going on.

(48:57):
And I say, welcome, Right, I'm not one of these
people who's going to deride you or break your chops. Hey, Look,
we're all ignorant until we're not. Right. A lot of
things I'm ignorant about, and this case was one of them.
I was ignorant to this whole thing until I wasn't.
So those of you who have just found this case
and this story, look, there's gonna be a whole lot

(49:18):
for you to consume because there's so much more than
what you have been given, what you have been shown,
and even in this trial, what they're talking about. Remember,
this is a small scope of time that Jeffrey Epstein
and Maxwell were active, and this is only a small

(49:39):
amount of the girls who were actually abused by them
according to accounts. So remember this is you know, it's
a cliche, the tip of the iceberg, but this is
legitimately the tip of the iceberg. And I wish that
that there was more right. I wish there was more

(50:00):
people on trial here. I wish that this was a
reco case, but it's not that. The reality is. It
is what it is. And hopefully when all is said
and done, they have enough to prosecute Maxwell and send
her to prison for the rest of her life, because
in my opinion, that's where somebody who does these kinds
of things belongs. So today the battle was on trying

(50:24):
to get to a place where she does not have
to go to prison for the rest of her life.
So let's take a look at some of that testimony today.
And what I did was is I compiled it all
and then I put it into more of a digestible
format so that we could read through it with a
little bit less back and forth, kind of make it,
i don't know, a little easier to consume, and hopefully

(50:46):
at a little shorter than the forty two minutes or
so that we've been rocking. I know it's Friday, and
people got a lot going on weekend, staring us down
the face. A lot of people want to relax a
little bit, and hell, I'm gonna take a day off
tomorrow myself, so I get it. With that said, I
tried to compile this all and put it into a

(51:06):
bit of a digestible format. We'll see what's up, all right. So,
day five of the Maxwell trial, before the jury even
get got into the room, the sparring was the sparring
had commenced. Maxwell's lawyer was commenting about seeing semen on
the table could be prejudicial. The prosecutor responds to this
by stating that it was a white stain and that

(51:29):
it was relevant in providing and proving whether the massages
were or were not sexual in nature. Judge Nathan, she
made a ruling that you know that that would be
something that she would have to use lab tests to permit.
So remember this is all before the jury even got
into the courtroom. As per the notes that were coming out,

(51:50):
prosecution went on to discuss the collection of Jeffrey Epstein's
schoolgirl outfits and how that is relevant to the larger
picture of course Maxwell's lof warriors. Well, they shot back
that the collection of outfits has nothing to do with
Maxwell and is prejudicial against their client. To that, the
prosecution answered that the schoolgirl costumes small ones. They made

(52:13):
a note of that absolutely disgusting animals were found in
the massage room, therefore making them relevant to the case
at hand. And you would think that would be the case, right,
If those schoolgirl outfits were found in the massage room,
and we know that that was the room that Gleane
was inhabiting according to other witnesses, then that is certainly

(52:34):
something that is relevant and something that should be discussed.
And Jeffrey Epstein was known to have this collection of
schoolgirl outfits. We know the stories about how he had.
One of these survivors, according to her account, by little
Cotton like little girl underwear. We've heard all of the
horror stories about this guy. So why anyone would think

(52:56):
that he doesn't have a collection of schoolgirl outfits is
beyond me. He certainly did, according to all of the
accounts that we have heard. The defense, well, they changed
their tactic and they were like, you know what, instead
of the relevance of the school grow outfits, now they're
asking that the costumes not be described as school grow outfits.

(53:17):
So you see what they do here, right, technicalities trying
to change their strategy mid argument, and it went from
the fact that oh, at first they're not relevant, to now, oh, well,
let's just change the names. We can't call them school
grow outfits. That's prejudicial. And this is the sort of

(53:37):
sparring that was going on, And this is what was
going on in the courtroom before the jury even stepped
foot into the courtroom this morning. So the prosecution says
that they will just lay a foundation and then ask

(53:57):
the witness about the costumes in question. So they were
wrangling and trying to get procedural stuff out of the
way before Judge Nathan Either even came into the room.
So Max, right when they start, right when the trial,
I mean when the hearing commenced, they went right at it.

(54:18):
Maxwell's lawyers they go in hard right away. They go
right after the fact that he took, meaning a lessie
from sixty three hundred dollars from Epstein, and they frame
it as such, you took sixty three hundred dollars. So
they're framing it right away. They're leaving no question, they're
setting the question up that they ask him to leave

(54:38):
no doubt. You took the sixty three hundred dollars and
obviously he uh, he says, yeah, he took it, because
he did take it, right, it's not even a question.
So what they're trying to do is set it up
that he is not to be believed. If he would
take sixty three hundred dollars from somebody, then why would

(55:00):
he be somebody who's credible? Now, remember that's what the
defense is trying to do. This is a message that
they continue to try to hammer home. They then doubled
down on this by asking him if he lied, not
only once, but twice. Unlessie responds that he didn't lie.
But the defense keeps banging away at it. Didn't you

(55:20):
try to steal a gun? Didn't you try to steal
over five thousand dollars to pay for immigration papers for
your girlfriend? Pretty scusy line of questioning, Right, why are
you bringing up someone's immigration status who isn't even involved
in the case. Obviously they'll try and say that was
the cause of unless he taking the money, but unless

(55:40):
he responded that it wasn't even his girlfriend. After this exchange,
the defense asks Alessie if a police officer Dawson questioned him.
Alessie corrects the defense and tells the court that he
was the one who went to speak with Officer Dawson.
So what he's saying is, nobody had to come find
me to speak with me. I went and talked to

(56:01):
Officer Dawson. I was the one who, of my own accord,
went there and spoke with him, and you know, tried
to get it all figured out. You know, he was
attempting to show that he was doing this on his
own and wasn't in any trouble. Then the questioning turned
to the gun, and the defense asked if he told

(56:22):
Officer Dawson that he went to Epstein's to steal a gun,
and unless he says he can't recall. Now, the defense
loves that. Right when you say you can't recall on
the stand, they're gonna try and use that if you misremembering.
They're gonna try and say that you have a terrible memory,
and all of this stuff you're saying is incorrect. But

(56:42):
the defense they won't let up on this fact, and
they respond with you might have said, but you don't recall.
And again they're trying to frame it. So the jerry
sees that his memory is bad or he doesn't remember correctly,
and that is the strategy. It's going to be the
strategy the whole way through, so just get ready for it.

(57:08):
Once again, the full court assault on his memory and
credibility keeps up by again asking Alessie if he went
back to steal money another time. To this, Alessi responds
that he only did it one time, and he thinks
that that's what he told the police once again, he thinks. So.
The defense really had a quite the sparring session with Alessi,

(57:34):
according to those who were in court and there it
was a little tense at times as well. The defense
goes on to describe how Alessi entered the house via
the sliding glass door and swiped fifty six hundred dollars
from a white envelope in one of Epstein's briefcases. So

(57:56):
Alessi sneaks in through the sliding glass door, takes fifty
six hundred bucks, and hits the skids. The lawyers continue
to chip away at his credibility as they once again
asked him about the money that was stolen, and then
add that money that was stolen while unless he was

(58:17):
the owner of and then they ask him why that
money was stolen while a less he was the owner
of properties valued at over one million dollars. So he
had property valued at over one million dollars allegedly at
this time, according to Maxwell's lawyers, but he still went
ahead and stole that money from Epstein. And they're trying

(58:41):
to once again frame it as this guy's a thief,
he's a you know, a no good person who shouldn't
be believed. He responded that he had sold those properties
at the time and he wasn't in possession of them now.
At this point, one of Maxwell's lawyers says, the name
of one of the anonymous accusers inside of the courtroom

(59:04):
in open court, and I honestly, look, I don't have
any evidence of this, but I honestly doubt it was
a mistake. The whole entire defense has been smarmy from
day one, and they have decided to go scorched earth.
So why would this be any different? Why would this
be any different? So I really hope that Judge Nathan

(59:31):
really hammers them for this. Judge Nathan admonishes the defense
to abide by her rules, and then the prosecution demanded
a sidebar directly after this incident happened. The sidebar ends
they get back to the questioning, and when the lawyer

(59:53):
Pagliuca asks about Jane again, he emphasizes on the name Jane,
this time trying to, you know, like a smart ass
response to the fact that he called Jane by her
name in court, so kind of like a snarky way
to say, Oh, Jane, is that what you mean? So

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there's another quick back and forth between Alessie and the
defense lawyer before they call for a break. Now that's
the uh, that's the early session, the early back and forth. Right,
A quick write up about what was going on with
Alessie on the stand here, and it was pretty contentious,
that whole entire first portion of it, no doubt about it.

(01:00:36):
They went hard in the paint on them, and I
can only imagine being in the courtroom, what you know,
the the way that they built their argument here. Definitely
no holds barred, and it's just going to keep going on.
So I hope that the prosecution is prepared for that

(01:00:58):
and they're prepared to answer in kind, because this is
obviously a no gloves fight, right, This is a backyard
brawl at this point between the defense and the prosecution.
So I hope the prosecution bites down on their mouthpiece
and comes out swinging, and I think next week's going
to be very crucial for the trial. I think we're

(01:01:21):
going to get more of an idea of which way
we're going, and we're going to get more of an
idea about, you know, certain aspects of the prosecution's case
moving forward. So after the lunch break, Alessi is back
on the stand and the questioning turns towards Virginia Roberts
and what Alessi said about her yesterday. They talk about

(01:01:42):
him driving Maxwell tomor A Lago to pick up Virginia
and how and what the weather conditions were like. So
again looking to punch holes in his story. They were
going after the dates, what the weather conditions were like,
and really attempting to you know, Swiss cheese at up.
The defense was trying to suggest that Maxwell was there

(01:02:04):
getting a treatment at mar A Lago. She wasn't there
for any draconian purposes. She wasn't there to recruit any kids.
That's why they were there, they were saying. And Alessie
responded to that by saying, he has no idea about
her treatments or what she was there for. You know,
if that's the case. All he could say is what
he saw. Alessie was also oppressed about Jeffrey Epstein's private life,

(01:02:29):
and he said that Epstein didn't share his private life
with him. They also talked about pictures of Maxwell that
were on the walls and how Alessi was instructed to
take them down when other women visited. It was a
whole entire package of crazy there folks, a whole entire
package of eft up, twisted way of life, and all

(01:02:53):
of these people that were around, they give me the
skives big time. There was a bunch of weird behavior
by Epstein and Maxwell throughout their time together. When asked
why he had taken them down, his answer was, I
have no idea, and they wouldn't share that with them, right.
They're not going to say to the hired LP, hey, look,
this is why I want you to take these pictures down.

(01:03:15):
Epstein and Maxwell weren't the kind of people who want
to have a discussion with the hired help. They give
orders and you better jump to it, or they'll find
somebody to do that for them. There was questions asked
by the prosecution also about foreign people who visited the properties,
including those with accents, and unless he said that, there

(01:03:37):
were plenty of different accents, including but not limited to, English, French,
and Italian accents. We all know that Jeffrey Epstein thought
he was this jet setter. We all know that he
had contacts all over the world. This was intercontinental. This
wasn't just in the United States of America. This was
happening all over the world. And all of these people

(01:03:57):
with all of these accents coming to Jeffrey Epstein's house,
how many of them were at levers of power? Well,
I'm guessing most of them because Jeffrey Epstein didn't just
hang out with regular people. Him and Ghalne Maxwell. They
only piled around with people that could advance them and
their agenda. Now the prosecution starts in again on Alessi

(01:04:20):
about arranging massages for Epstein at the Breakers in Palm Beach,
and then they smack them with this one. They ask
him if him arranging massages for Epstein at the Breakers
made him a trafficker also, which is garbage. Those massages
are at a real joint, right, He's setting them up
at a real joint to go get a massage. Having

(01:04:42):
these girls fourteen fifteen, sixteen seventeen, whatever it is, come
to your house to give you a massage. These aren't
massage therapists. These kids haven't even passed drivers in some cases.
These are kids that should be at cheer practice or
whatever the hell it is kids are doing these days.
So to try and conflate the two issues, I mean,

(01:05:03):
that's just crazy, honestly. But that's the way that they're
gonna roll. And whatever chance that the defense sees to
poke a hole in the armor, to poke a hole
in the prosecution's case, they're gonna go full bore and
try and do it. But this was pretty shitty way

(01:05:24):
to go about it, right, attacking people this way, But
it's the nature. When he was asked if he thought
that the people sent to perform on on the Epstein
sessions were of age, unless he responded that he believed
they were, he better respond that way right or else
he is putting himself in a position of enabling it

(01:05:45):
and facilitating it. Oh yeah, I thought they were underage,
but I just turned the blind ee. Meanwhile, we know
that's what most of these people were doing. We've heard
about the young Swedish girl who was crying her eyes out. Yeah,
we've heard all the story or he's mister Alessi. And
while some people might not be hip to what went
on with this dude, well, you know, the fact of

(01:06:07):
the matter is this, I say it all the time.
There really are no good guys in this Epstein's Maxwell saga,
plenty of dark characters and gray people. The defense went
on to ask about any situation where unless he heard, saw,
or thought someone was in distress while on the property.

(01:06:28):
Alessi said no. Pagliuca then asked if anyone complained to him,
and Alessi says no, but he wishes that they had,
because then he would have been able to stop it. Bro, really,
you don't. You didn't have any idea what was going on,
got girls coming to stay the night over at old

(01:06:49):
Jeffy's house, and just all good, no questions, asked anything
to make sure that that paycheck cash is right. So
that that was pretty much the deal with Alessi. And
after this line of questioning he stepped down and there
was no redirect So that concluded the cross examination of

(01:07:12):
Juan Alessi. And then the next witness was Gregory Parkinson,
a crime scene investigator from Palm Beach County who had
worked on the Epstein case the first time around. Now,
this is the portion of the testimony where a lot
of the stuff was visual and digitized, So there's really

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not too much to go on. There's a little bit right,
and we're gonna get to it, But the overall scenario
is them talking about the first raid of Jeffrey Epstein's
Palm Beach home during the original prosecution back in two
thousand and seven two thousand and eight, and Jeffrey Epstein

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obviously made the sweetheart deal, got the hook up, and
didn't do any real jail time, But the actual investigation
into Epstein and Palm Beach was a pretty thorough investigation,
and they were absolutely hamstrung by the state prosecutors, meaning
the police department, by the state prosecutors, and then the

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Feds on top of it. I'm going to post a
few episodes this weekend going into a little bit more
about the situation as far as how hard the Palm
Beach police department worked and how badly they wanted to
put Epstein in prison, and how they were just stopped
in their tracks pretty much the whole way. So this
gentleman that they're talking to on the stand now. Gregory

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Parkinson is a crime scene investigator who used to work
for the Palm Beach Police Department, but he's now retired.
He worked on the Epstein investigation and now as he's
on the stand, the prosecution enters all kinds of evidence
into the record, but obviously the press and the public
were not privy to it. It's under seal. At one point,
Maureen Komi asked, what do we see here during the search,

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and Officer Parkinson responded, Epstein and the Pope, meaning a
picture of Epstein and the Pope. There was also a
picture of Epstein and Fidel Castro and a litany of
other people. I'm not going to get into it here,
but throughout the years we have talked about so many
different pictures that were found at Epstein's house that were

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predominantly and prominently displayed. The prosecution continues to instruct the
jurors on what sealed items to look at, one after
the other. Comy then asked that Exhibit two thirty four
be admitted under seal seal, of course, and then some
exhibits are for the public. Exhibit two twenty eight, for example,

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is one of those, and Comy asked officer Parkinson what
two twenty eight contains, and he responded that it's the
garden room. More sealed documents introduced and instructions to the
jurors before Nathan announces another break. So this is what
I was talking about earlier. We get to the point

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where there's not much for us to consume as the
public for the afternoon session here. So they get back
from the break and the jurors continue to go over
the evidence, a lot of it sealed that pertains to
Epstein's residences. Some of the public photos include one of
the bathroom that has a pink couch and a phone

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and a portable inflatable massage table. Now this is interesting.
The prosecution moves to introduce exhibit fifty one to evidence,
which is a green massage table, not an inflatable one,
and this is one of the massage tables allegedly that
you know, was used. So it's a very interesting admission

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to the evidence. So that was exhibit fifty one that
wasn't sealed, so we were able to get a look
at that at least. Now the witness goes in for
cross examination and Christian Everdell takes over and he goes
right after the alleged Alessi theft from Epstein by asking Parkinson.

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After asking Parkinson if he responded to a burglary, that
burglary burglary there, Parkinson affirms that that is the case.
So what that does is it confirms that Alessi wanted
to steal from Epstein, broke into the house, stole the money.
It confirms all of that by the police officer who
was attending the scene, attending the complaint. So again trying

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to paunch holes in the credibility. Everdell goes on to
say that Epstein reported that several thousand dollars had been stolen. Right,
Parkinson responds that that is true as well. Most of
this portion of the testimony, like I said, as visual,
So there's not much to offer here. After some more
time of this witness, he's excused and then ex witness

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Michael Dawson, one of the detectives who searched Epstein's residence,
hits the stand. Now, this wasn't very long, but we
got some decent information out of here, for sure. He
testified that they were searching for sex toys, massage tables,
messages sent or received, and any other material that might
be related to the warrant. Maureen Comy asked, what were

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you looking for during the search. Dawson responds to this,
massage tables and oils, sex toys. There are a lot
of photos of nude females. We seized a phone book,
a massage table, photo of a nude female, a sex
toy called the Torpedo. So that's where they pretty much
stopped at for the day. Right, there's the time was

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running out. There's thirteen minutes left or so in the trial,
and instead of hammering at home, they're going to wait
till Monday to finish this testimony. But during the first
search of Epstein's house, they found a whole bunch of wacky,
weird shit, A whole bunch of wacky stuff. I mean,
there was a picture of Bill Clinton on the wall
in a blue dress and some red pumps. Pictures of

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all kinds of naked people all over, obviously, pictures of
underage kids, underage girls, according to witnesses and people who
had been there. So they found a whole bunch of
wild stuff during that first arraid of Jeffrey Epstein's house
when he was getting arrested the first time around and
it was. They had so much that they were prepared
to really really hammer this dude. And once his all

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star lawyer team got involved, Gerald Lefkowitz, Alan Dershowitz, you know,
the whole crew, things changed real quick. So it's a
very fascinating story of disgustingness and horribleness and terrible dereliction
of duty by the authorities. And if you're not familiar

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with how it all went down during the original arrest,
I'm gonna put some episodes over the weekend starting tonight
that'll give you more of an idea of the absolute
travesty that happened down in Palm Beach. So with that, folks,
we're gonna wrap it up for the weekend, and you know,
we'll be back this weekend Saturday and Sunday, I'll have

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these context episodes rocking and rolling. But Monday morning we'll
hit the ground running. And one week closer to me
getting to New York right after the holidays, I'm on
a plane and I'll be in New York for probably
the last, oh, I don't know, ten days of this
trial or so, and we'll be able to get a
little more from inside the courtroom hopefully, and I'll be

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able to provide a more comprehensive look at what's going
on once I'm on the ground, But until then, we'll
be here every single day, same time, same format, and
keeping the flags of discontent waving. Folks. To all of
you who have joined the podcast recently, I appreciate you

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all riding with me, and I hope that as we
move forward, those of you who might not have known
about this case, I hope that you see it for
what it really is, and I hope it pisses you
off because it should. All Right, everybody, please enjoy your weekend.
If you're all going, if you're going out tonight partying
or whatever, please do it responsibly. Don't need you know

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any car accidents or any of you making any bad mistakes.
So please, if you're gonna go out tonight, have a
great time, but do it safely. I want you all
back Monday. We have some criminals to see get convicted.
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