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January 1, 2026 50 mins
Jes Staley has repeatedly argued that he was unfairly railroaded by his association with Jeffrey Epstein, portraying himself as collateral damage in a scandal he claims was exaggerated and mischaracterized. In public statements and court filings, Jes Staley has insisted that his relationship with Epstein was overstated, that he had no knowledge of Epstein’s criminal conduct, and that the fallout cost him his career and reputation unjustly. Staley has framed the allegations as a narrative pile-on—suggesting that regulators, banks, and the media needed a single, convenient figure to absorb blame once Epstein’s crimes became impossible to ignore.

Those denials, however, collapse under the weight of the documented facts. Emails, travel records, and testimony show that Staley maintained a far closer and longer relationship with Jeffrey Epstein than he publicly acknowledged, including repeated personal contact well after Epstein’s 2008 conviction. Evidence revealed during regulatory investigations and litigation contradicts Staley’s claims of distance and ignorance, exposing a pattern of sustained engagement that undercuts his credibility. When set against the paper trail, Staley’s insistence that he was merely an unlucky bystander rings hollow—less a case of being railroaded, and more an example of how implausible denials unravel once they’re tested against emails, calendars, and sworn findings.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
Jess Daly and JP Morgan are going back and forth
over what's going on down in the Virgin Islands, and
i'll tell you what, it's getting a bit contentious. The
allegations that are being thrown this way and that by
both parties are almost laughable at this point for me,

(00:21):
considering both parties are obviously on the hook for what
happened here, and instead of just owning up to that,
they're trying to say, well, I might have been wrong,
but this guy over here he was more wrong than
I was, so you should focus on him more than
you focus on us. It's a classic attempt to muddy
the waters when the reality is both groups, meaning the

(00:43):
management structure of JP Morgan and Jess Day and anybody
around him, they all knew the deal. They knew what
Epstein was up to. They knew he was a dirtbag, scumbag,
son of a bitch, and they knew that he was
molesting and hurting people. They didn't care. That's what it
comes down to. They did not care that Epstein was
engaging in all of this behavior because he was bringing

(01:05):
other rich scumbags to the bank. And as long as
that was happening and the money kept flowing in, then
everybody who was very content to hang out with Epstein,
they were all content to take his money, they were
all content to do business with them. Well, guess what,
now it's time to answer some questions. Today's article is
from NBC News and the headline JP Morgan alleges former

(01:30):
executive thwarted efforts to cut ties with Epstein. The bank
claimed Jeff Staley knew of Epstein's sex trafficking and engaged
in sexual activity with young women procured by Epstein. Staley
has said he is being used as a PR shield,
and honestly, all of that is true. They are using
him as a PR shield, But he was engaged in

(01:52):
all of Epstein's bullshit, and according to at least some reports,
he was involved in the actual abuse of some of
these girls. So that elevates him from just an enabler
to absolute piece of shit status, right up there with
guys like you know, Bill Richardson, Glenn Dubin, George Mitchell,
and the rest of them. This article was authored by

(02:15):
Chloe Atkins. JP Morgan Chase claimed its former executive Jess
Staley repeatedly thwarted its efforts to cut ties with convicted
sex offender Jeffrey Epstein during Staley's tenure at the bank,
according to court documents filed this week. So you mean
to tell me that Jess Staley could tell Jamie Diamond

(02:37):
what to do, he could tell the executive board what
to do. I don't buy that for a minute. And
the fact that they're gonna get out here and try
and pitch that to people is pretty laughable. I don't
think people are buying that bullshit anymore. It's like when
we were kids, right, well those of us that are
older anyway, our parents could tell us anything and we
couldn't fact check it. We'd have to go to the

(02:58):
library to look something up. But now we can go
right to the internet, take a look and know you're
a bullshitting us. So Sam goes here. Nobody was thwarting anything, Okay,
you weren't trying to get rid of Jeffrey Epstein. And
in fact, what you're doing is lying to us. But
unlike the old days, we can go and check now

(03:19):
and verify well that you're lying. The Wall Street Giant
sued Stay in March saying he should be held liable
for any financial damages it might have to pay from
two lawsuits that alleged it enabled Epstein's sex trafficking operation.
Now imagine just sit back in the cut for a
minute and let that sink in. Not one bit of

(03:40):
talk about criminal sanction, not one bit of talk about
anyone going to prison. Once again, just another financial slap. Staley,
who worked at the bank for more than thirty years,
asked a federal judge last month to dismiss the lawsuit,
saying the bank was using him as a public relation shield.
In response, the bank this week alleged that Staley knew

(04:04):
of Epstein's sex trafficking enterprise and engaged in sexual activity
with young women procured by Epstein, but acted to protect
himself and Epstein, who could have exposed Staley's misconduct. Court
documents said. So they're going in all the way on
jess Staley. According to JP Morgan, folks, everything was Jess

(04:24):
Daley's fault. He's the only guy here who had anything
to do with Jeffrey Epstein, and of course he made
every decision for the company as well, according to this lawsuit.
Now back to reality. We know that's not the case.
We know that there are many channels that this sort
of thing has to go through. We know that there's
an auditing department, there's risk management, and all of these

(04:49):
different levers of security, all of these redundancies were bypassed.
You mean to tell me that Jess Staley had that
kind of power. I mean, I guess it's pos possible.
But if that's the case and you're a shareholder of
JP Morgan, do you have any faith in Jamie Diamond
at this point, Bro, you can't even control your underlings

(05:10):
to not pallel around with Jeffrey Epstein. Why do you
think that you should run this whole last company? Seems
like a pretty straightforward question, right. Unfortunately, none of these
goofballs in the legacy media will ever ask it. Staley
persisted for years in protecting Epstein in the face of
attempts by JPMC personnel to end the company's relationship with

(05:31):
Epstein on reputational grounds, made misrepresentations in the process, and
continued to do so to the end of his JP
Morgan tenure, the bank said in the court filing. And
Epstein victim has alleged that Staley sexually abused her while
he was working at the bank. Court document said, and look,

(05:52):
I believe the accuser who is saying this, especially if
the accuser is who I think it is. If that's
the case, the whole entire thing is about the fall
in on the head of JP Morgan and Jess Staley,
because this survivor was with Epstein all the time, from
the time she was fourteen. And if that's the case,

(06:12):
and it is who I think it is, she has
all the keys to the kingdom. She knows everything, She
knows all the people who are around, she knows all
the people who are involved, and I'm sure she's found
a very receptive audience to hear her stories. When we're
talking about the United States, Virgin Islands and their legal team,
JP Morgan Chase said this week that it did not know,

(06:35):
nor could it have reasonably known, of the woman's allegations.
Staley's attorneys did not immediately respond to her request for comment.
Stale has called the accusations baseless, but has expressed regret
for his relationship with Epstein. Once again, he is not
regretful that he had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. He's

(06:56):
regretful that he was caught. He's regretful that all of
you out there are putting his ass on blast on
a regular basis. That's what he's worried about. That's what
he regrets. Epstein was convicted of procuring a child for
prostitution in two thousand and eight. He died by suicide
in twenty nineteen at a Manhattan correctional center where he

(07:17):
was being held on federal sex trafficking charges. Allegedly died
by suicide. By the way, has anyone seen any real
concrete evidence telling us he died by suicide? Or are
we just going by what the medical examiner and good
old Bill Barr told us? Because I don't believe either
of them. JP Morgan Chase was sued by the US

(07:39):
Virgin Islands and a woman identified as Jane doe Ie
last year, claiming it turned a blind eye towards Epstein's conduct. Well,
so do the Virgin Islands, right, the USVII has some
audacity here, considering Epstein went down there, set up shop,
got in bed with local officials, started doling out a
bunch of dough, and committed all of these crimes down

(08:02):
in your territory. Yet somehow you still come out smelling
like roses, meaning the Virgin Islands with a big, fat
bank roll and looking for more. Pretty amazing if you
ask me. Internal emails and memos filed as exhibits this
week revealed that the bank executives were concerned about the
financial institution's relationship with Epstein, dating to two thousand and six.

(08:25):
In October two thousand and six, the bank's Rapid Response
Team issued a memo saying Epstein had banking asset and
credit accounts with balances that amounted to thirty two million dollars.
The memo also said cash withdrawals were routinely made in
sums of forty thousand to eighty thousand, multiple times a month,

(08:47):
totaling over seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars year to date.
According to the document, no big deal there, I mean,
it's not like you was structuring those transactions right.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Oh wait, he was?

Speaker 1 (08:58):
And here I was thinking, at least according to JP Morgan,
that they had no idea what was going on, when
that is demonstrably provable to be a lie. The memo
said that after internal discussions with Jess Staley, Mary Airdos,
Katherine Keating, John Duffy, and Mary Casey.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It was decided that we will keep.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Mister Epstein solely as a banking client and on a
reactive client service basis, and that we will not proactively
solicit new investment business from him. Another month later, and Borrowich,
a JP Morgan Chase executive, emailed Staley with the subject
line Epstein please call me. In the email, she said

(09:40):
she had concerns on risk management with this client, and
we have a bad track record internally on risk as
you know. Is Jeffrey going to stay involved here? How
are we managing risk here? Please call Borrowitch said in
an email in twenty thirteen, Two bank directors emailed about
the private bank risk unit, referring Epstein in two thousand

(10:03):
and eight to its anti money laundering program because of
excessive cash activity and media reports alleging his connection to
sex trafficking. Epstein was marked as high risk at the time.
That's all they did.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Though.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
You can mark them whatever you want, but you have
to take action. They did not take action. Remember That's
what it comes down to. Another email exchange from twenty
eleven indicates that the bank kept Epstein as a client
due to Jess's personal relationship with them, even though other
bank directors were not in favor of having retained them

(10:38):
as a client. So they knew. JP Morgan knew, and
they let Jess Daily do whatever he wanted. Remember, he
was working for them at the time. So the buck
stops at JP Morgan. One director in the same email
correspondence reported having also looked into transactions of one of
Epstein's assistants, which included lots of salon, lingerie shops, drug

(11:00):
stores in New York, Palm Beach, and in Saint Thomas
his places of residence, plus lots of video like Girls
Gone Wild. There is no doubt that not only Jess
Daly knew exactly what and who Jeffrey Epstein was, and
so did JP Morgan in Chase. So the whole back

(11:21):
and forth between JP Morgan and Jess Day is relatively laughable,
and hopefully the court comes down on both of them
like a ton of bricks. All right, folks, that's gonna
do it for this one. All of the information that
goes with the episode can be found in the description box.
What's up everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So,

(11:44):
according to The New York Times, there were some provisions
that were carved out inside of the survivors' compensation fund.
That allows the survivors to go after people like Jess
Daly and Leon Black. And that's exactly what at least
one of the survivors is going to do. And that's
according to a new article that's out in the New

(12:07):
York Times. So let's dive into this article and let's
see what's going on in the world of Jeffrey Epstein
and his dirty ass scumbag friends. Today's article was published
by The New York Times and the headline Epstein victim
may pursue claims against two Wall Street executives. A carveout

(12:30):
provision allows at least one sexual abuse victim of Jeffrey
Epstein who settled with his estate, to pursue claims against
Leon Black and James Staley. Other survivors may follow. This
article was authored by Matthew Goldstein. At least one longtime
sexual abuse victim of Jeffrey Epstein who received a monetary

(12:54):
settlement from his estate, can also pursue separate claims against
two powerful Wall Street executives who had ties to the
convicted sex offender. According to two people briefed on the matter,
and that's good, right. If there's other people who are
liable here, they shouldn't be absolved of any sort of
responsibility because Jeffrey Epstein's estate decided to pay out some money.

(13:19):
That's ridiculous. If I was abused by Leon Black and
Jeffrey Epstein, both of those scumbags are paying up end
the story, and that's the way it should be. Richard Kahn,
an executive of mister Epstein's estate, testified in a deposition
in May that the victim's settlement included a carve out
provision involving Leon Black, a billionaire private equity investor.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
And James E.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Staley, a former top executive at JP Morgan Chase and Barclay's.
Said the people who were briefed on the deposition and
spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not
authorized to publicly discuss the matter, Well, we had not
heard that Richard Khan had been deposed, So that's a
good thing. Getting that guy under oath was a very

(14:08):
very important matter to get handled. And I wonder if
he perjured himself at all during that testimony. We know
that Darren Endyke and Richard Kahan were key pieces of
what Epstein had going on. They were around from the
very beginning. In Dyke's name and signature is everywhere on
documents as well as Cohn's. And then just listen to

(14:31):
what the survivors had to say about these two dudes,
and it's certainly a head scratcher how they ended up
as the executors and not as defendants. The exceptions made
for mister Black and mister Staley show how the two
men continue to be dogged by their social and business
dealings with mister Epstein four years after he killed himself

(14:53):
in a federal jail allegedly mister Goldstein while awaiting trial
on sex trafficking charges. You know what's so funny all
of these people that are so gung ho to believe
what the OIG wrote in that ridiculous report, but out
of the other side of their mouth, they're criticizing this
ruling or that ruling, and then they say, well, that

(15:13):
was just a bad decision by the court or a
bad decision by the Supreme Court. Well, how about a
bad decision by the OIG. But that would run directly
in the face of the narrative that they're trying to
spin and that narrative is. Look, everybody's a conspiracy theorist,
and Jeffrey Epstein most certainly killed himself. How do we

(15:34):
know that, Well, we're telling you that. Meanwhile, the OIG
report did nothing, nothing, not one single thing. Just to
be clear, Okay, you wanted an Italian, I'll give it
to you an Italian too. It did ugats when it
comes to furthering any sort of reliable narrative about what
happened inside of that jail cell, and furthermore, what happened

(15:56):
the first time around inside of the jail cell with
Nicholas Tartak. You notice the New York Times and mister
Goldstein here and the rest of the reporters that cover
this case. I'm using air quotes. They never bring that
part of it up. And the reason that they never
bring up tartag Leoni and what happened in that jail
cell is because it absolutely destroys the rest of the

(16:18):
narrative moving forward. The arrangement could set a precedent for
other victims of mister Epstein, potentially exposing mister Black and
mister Staley to further scrutiny and the liability they deserve.
All of it all the scrutiny, all the liability, and
hopefully all of the repercussions that comes with it. She

(16:40):
was a victim potentially to these individuals, mister Kahn said
in the deposition. According to one of the people, mister
Kahn said that mister Epstein's estate agreed to the carve
out provision so that the unnamed woman could potentially sue
for harms that she incurred. Well, as much as I
hate Endike and Khan, I'm glad to see that the

(17:01):
estate acquiesced to.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
This portion of it.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
That way, the woman here doesn't just have to say,
you know what, I got a payment from Epstein's estate,
so everybody else is off the hook. Screw that. Enough
of that nonsense. Everybody who was involved has to be
brought in, prosecuted if they've done something criminal, and arrested.
I don't understand what the hold up is here and

(17:25):
what the problem is. In the deposition, mister Kahn, who
was mister Epstein's longtime accountant, said at least one other
victim had sought a similar carve out from the estate.
According to the person, he suggested in testimony, without providing details,
the other victims might have asked for the provision with
regard to other men, The person said it was unclear

(17:49):
from mister Kahn's deposition whether either of the women had
pursued claims against mister Black or mister Staley, or what
their specific claims might be. The people briefed on the
deposition said, well, we know what the claims are. We
know what women are saying about Leon Black and Jeff Staley,
and then we have Jeff Staley's own emails that are

(18:12):
more than suspect, talking about Snow White, Beauty and the Beast.
Come on, do you really think they were talking about
Disney movies or were they talking about something a lot
more sinister. In settling claims with victims, mister Epstein's estate
had sought to limit the potential for litigation against anyone
with ties to mister Epstein, something that should have never

(18:34):
been allowed by the way, that should have never been
allowed by the government. But you know, the USVII and
the government down there, they care so much about the victims, right,
give me a break as there's stuffing money in their
pockets like Scrooge McDuck. Both mister Black, co founder of
the private equity firm Apollo Global Management, and mister Staley

(18:54):
had been frequent visitors to mister Epstein's Manhattan residence. Mister
Black paid mister Astein one hundred and fifty eight million
dollars for tax and estate planning services, outsize payments that
are now drawing scrutiny from the Senate Finance Committee. Oh,
they finally got around to it. Huh, that's nice of them.
Why they're too busy playing political fuck the football before? Oh,

(19:18):
that's exactly what they were doing. The whole lot of
them discussed me. By the way, all of our elected officials,
I don't look at any of them and say to myself, Man,
this is somebody I can trust, This is somebody that's
gonna do the right thing. And why do I take
such a cynical outlook when it comes to our politicians. Well,
take a look at the way they behave, take a

(19:38):
look at all of this shit going on, all of
the things that are wrong in this country, and they
can't even figure it out. They can't come together, they
can't work together. Everything's a big argument. Everything has to
be absolutely politicized. That way, they can continue to divide
me and you so they can continue to do what
they want to do without any scrutiny. That's the pla.

(20:00):
I can't believe more people don't see it. But that's
what they've been doing forever, and that's what they continue
to do. Do you really think that these politicians that
are out there talking all this trash about the other
politicians really mean that it's like wrestling. Oh sure, they
hate each other when the cameras are on, but when
the camera goes off, they all work together again to

(20:20):
continue to plunder your future and your wealth. Meanwhile everybody
stands on the sidelines and cheers them on. Susan Estrich,
a lawyer for mister Black, said, the leak of mister
Kahn's deposition testimony is baseless character assassination, involving anonymous women
who have never brought a claim against mister Black. So

(20:40):
you know that this is a heavy claim. If Susan
Estrich is trying to get out in front of it
the way she is, she knows that this is going
to have blowback, and she knows that the writing is
on the wall for Leon Black to now face other
civil suits. Sarry Boyd were prohibited by lack team plus
terms and conditions applag see website for details. Lawyers from

(21:01):
mister Staley did not respond to a request for a comment.
A lawyer for mister Kahn declined to comment. The deposition
from mister Kahn was in connection with a class action
lawsuit filed last year by mister Epstein's survivors against J. P.
Morgan Chase, the largest bank in the United States, and
a related lawsuit against the bank by the US Virgin Islands.

(21:25):
The lawsuits contend that the bank turned a blind eye
to mister Epstein's trafficking of teenage girls and young women
to and from his residences in the Virgin Islands, Manhattan, Florida,
and New Mexico because he was a wealthy client with
famous and powerful friends. Don't even get me started on
New Mexico. What occurred down in New Mexico as far

(21:48):
as an investigation, is straight up embarrassing and everybody involved
down there, Baldaris and everybody else should hang their heads
in shame for the rest of their lives. In June,
JP Morgan agreed to pay two hundred and ninety million
dollars to settle the class action lawsuit, but it continues
to contest. The suit by the Virgin Islands, which seeks

(22:09):
one hundred and ninety million and damages. JP Morgan is
also suing mister Staley in connection with that suit, claiming
he could be liable for damages. So basically, what we
have here are a bunch of monkeys banging a football.
That's what it looks like. Okay, lawsuits coming from every side.
This one's liable, that one's liable. Breaking news, You bunch

(22:31):
of dicks, You're all liable. In a court filing on Monday,
JP Morgan said it continued to do business with mister
Abstein because it relied on mister Staley's representations that mister
Abstein had turned the page on his past conduct. So
his past conduct he was fixed from that. He was
no longer a molestor, he was no longer a child abuser.

(22:55):
We all know that people that do what Epstein did,
don't stop.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
What are you even talking?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
He turned the page. It's not like this guy didn't
pay his taxes and got nailed for that. We can
all forgive that, right Ah, Yeah, the guy didn't want
to pay his taxes. Shitty, but I get it. Hurting children,
trafficking women, yeah, sorry, not the same thing. An internal
review of mister Staley's company Emails conducted by JP Morgan

(23:23):
following mister Epstein's twenty nineteen arrest found that the two
men had shared sexually suggestive emails. Lawyers from mister Staley
in court papers have said he did nothing wrong and
he was unaware of any sex trafficking by mister Epstein.
He had no idea, folks, none of them knew anything.
They had no idea. In twenty twenty one, mister Black

(23:46):
resigned as chairman and chief executive of Apollo over his
ties to mister Epstein. This year, he quietly agreed to
pay sixty two and a half million dollars to the
Virgin Islands to head off a potential lawsuit that would
have claimed his large payments to mister Epstein helped finance
the sex trafficking operation in the US territory. And you

(24:08):
see why they don't use rico right because if they did,
they'd have to arrest Leon Black. They'd have to arrest
all of these scumbags that hold the keys to the kingdom.
And when I say the keys to the kingdom, I
mean the financial sector. Who do you think puts your
favorite politicians in office? You think it's you. You think
it's all those ballots that were sent in.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
It's these people that are pulling the strings of their puppets.
They're the puppeteers, people like Leon Black. Okay, so keep
that in mind when you're arguing about your favorite politicians.
Mister Black is also being sued by two other women
who say they were raped by him roughly two decades
ago at mister Epstein's Manhattan townhouse. Miss Estrich called those

(24:53):
allegations false and frivolous. Lawyers from mister Epstein's survivors have
estimated that He's second actually abused hundreds of teenage girls
and young women over two decades. More than one hundred
and twenty five women have received one hundred and fifty
three million dollars in settlement payments from either a restitution

(25:13):
fund set up by the estate or in deals negotiated
directly by the estate, as was the case with the
two women mister Kahn was asked about during his deposition.
All right, so, as you can see here, Leon Black
and Jess Staley certainly aren't out of the woods when
it comes to getting sued. Survivors who have taken money

(25:35):
from the Survivor's fund. Well, they're still going to be
able to sue Jess Staley and Leon Black, according to
the deposition of Richard Kahn. And that's a big development
because now that means that they're personally liable for their bullshit.
But unfortunately it's not going to matter because at the
end of the day, they're just going to break out

(25:56):
their checkbook and pay their way out of whatever trouble
they find themselves in. And that's what happens when everything's
civil and nothing is criminal. So here we are talking
about a sec O case that should have been a
RICO case, and all of Jeffrey Epstein's pals and fellow
travelers are doing nothing more than pulling out their checkbook

(26:16):
and buying their way out of trouble, while the rest
of us are left aghast wondering if any real justice
is ever going to arrive. All right, folks, that's gonna
wrap it up for this one. All of the information
that goes with this episode can be found in the
description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the
Epstein Chronicles. One of the more ridiculous claims in the

(26:40):
new legal filings by Prince Andrew is him actually trying
to tell us that him and Glaine Maxwell weren't homies.
It is one of the most absurd claims I've heard
in quite some time, and folks, we've heard them all
since we've been following this case. But Prince Andrew is
adamant in these court filings that him and Glean Maxwell,

(27:03):
you know, they were just casual friends, you know, pass
you by in the bar, give you a nod of
the head as you're going to get a pint and
keep it moving type friends.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Meanwhile, the facts tell a completely different story. Tonight, we're
going to talk about an article from The Mirror that
points to nine different times Gleann Maxwell and Prince Andrew
we're looking pretty chummy. But we're also going to discuss
an article from the New York Post about Jess Staley
before we even dive in about Prince Andrew and his

(27:35):
cozy relationship with Glen Maxwell. Now, Jess Staley is well,
I guess I should say was one of the most
powerful men in the financial world. This dude was the
gatekeeper over at JP Morgan for a very very long time.

(27:56):
He ran the investment banking division over at JP Morgan,
and that is where all of the big shots come,
you know, to do their wieling and dealing with their money.
They come in and you know, these guys manage the
money for them, make transactions whatever it may be. This
is what the division is there for. And Jess Staley

(28:16):
was the guy who was the big shot over there,
mister head honcho, mister dud in charge, and him and
Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Were really close.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Another one of those relationships that doesn't get the kind
of spotlight that it deserves, and it certainly does deserve
a whole lot of spotlight, just like the situation with
Leon Black. When you have somebody like Jeffrey Epstein and
he has access to movers and shakers like this in
the financial world, what are we supposed to think when

(28:46):
these people are lobbying for him, when these people are
giving them one hundred and fifty eight million dollars for
I'm using air quotes right now, folks, advice, What are
we supposed to think that it's all on the up
and up, that these guys are just you know, chums
and they're hanging out having a chat like the rest
of us. Over you know, Crispy taco night. Nobody's buying it.

(29:08):
Nobody believes that bs. And I'm not gonna sit here
and tell you that. You know, there's a room full
of six people who are sitting around, you know, controlling
the world or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I'll leave that to other people.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
That's out of my lane. But what I will tell
you is this, people like Jess Staley, people like Leon Black,
those people really hold the keys. If you're in control
of the financial world, if you're the in control of
the way you know the money is moving through the
banking system, that would give you a lot of power,

(29:41):
wouldn't it. And when you have some of the biggest
people in the world in this industry hanging out with
Epstein and facilitating his financial malfeasance, what are we supposed
to say? Are we just supposed to just say forget it,
turn our heads and say, ah, no big deal.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
Usually that's what we would do.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Right, if it was just the usual stealing and evading
taxes and all of that jazz, shrug our shoulders and
move on.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
We have bigger problems.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
All of us got to feed our families, and we
got to continue to pay the poor people's tax right,
But they messed up. They're really messed up. When they
thought that they were going to get over on us
with this one, when they thought that the Jeffrey Epstein
stuff was just gonna blow over and everybody was gonna
forget about it. That's not the case. Nobody's forgetting about it.

(30:29):
People want answers, and people like this who were connected
to Epstein, who were lobbying for him at a huge
firm like JP Morgan should be held to account. And
I know he lost his job at Barclays, right, that's
a good first step. But why haven't we had a
real look into the financials here? You mean to tell

(30:49):
me all of the financial transactions Epstein was moving through
this bank. We're on the up and up. We already
know that's not the case. We've already seen the finds
that these banks have got slapped with for their malfeasance,
for not respecting the fins in process. But none of
these bankers, the men in charge, the women in charge,

(31:10):
the people at the top, When do any of them
get held accountable. Nobody goes to prison. None of these
people ever go to prison. And that's because they're the
ones that are holding the bag. And we all know
what happens when a president gets elected in America, Inevitably
his whole entire cabinet, transition staff, all of it is

(31:31):
filled with people from the financial sector, and then you
wonder why the wheel just continues to go around and round.
All right, So we're going to talk about this article
real quick from the New York Post and Jess Staley.
It's a relatively short article. That's why we're doing it
at the top end here of this episode and not
doing an episode for this article alone. I don't think

(31:53):
there's any point in doing an eleven minute episode, so
we'll just tack it on here and then.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
We'll add the other article here to the back end.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
This article was authored by Lydia moynihan and it was
posted in the New York Post headline OUs did Barclay CEO?
Jess Daley reportedly back Depstein at JP Morgan. I mean
it's just crazy. JP Morgan's like this gigantic house, you know,

(32:22):
big time financial institution, and this is the sort of
stuff they're really getting up to when all of the
nonsense and you know, the curtains are pulled back and
you peel their face off when they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
How woke they are or whatever.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
Really what they're doing is they're trying to refocus all
of our energy and all of our oh you know, rage,
if you will, at each other as opposed to them.
And they got a good glimpse of what was going
on during Occupy Wall Street, and they understood that there
was a ground swell coming against them, so they changed

(32:59):
their tactics in corporate America, right, and places like JP
Morgan and these banking institutions, let's put on a friendlier face.
But just because they say that that's what they are,
just because they say that they're, you know, hipped to
the times, we all know.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
That BS walks right.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
It's a lot of BS from these companies because when
you look at the way they conduct business, it's the
same old or even worse than usual. Recently, oust did
Barclay CEO Jess Staley went to bat for convicted sex
offender Jeffrey Epstein when he ran the investment banking division
at JP Morgan. According to a report, JP Morgan was

(33:40):
examining whether to boot Epstein as a client because of
his thirteen month prison sentence tied to soliciting sex from
a minor, meaning having sex with an underage girl. Soliciting
sex from a minor. What an absolutely ridiculous charge. An
absolutely ridiculous charge. There's no such thing as soliciting sex
from a minor. You're committing you know, if under a

(34:03):
certain age, you're committing a rape, statutory rape at the
very least. But Staley, who ran the Giant's investment bank,
argue that Epstein had paid his debt to society and
should remain a client. According to the report Wednesday in
the Financial Times, I mean, yeah, he really paid his

(34:24):
debt to society.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Folks had to check into the jail for a couple
hours a day, was able to run around, still conduct business,
go to his office and according to some survivors, continue
to abuse people while there was a riff on duty.
But na, nothing was a miss down there in Palm
Beach either. I mean, really, he paid his debt to society.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
There's not enough punishment on this planet for this dude
to repay his debt to society and forget that his
debt to these survivors. Staley's efforts came after Epstein was
convicted in two thousand and eight. According to the ft
JP Morgan eventually severed its relationship with Epstein in twenty

(35:05):
and thirteen, the same year Staley departed the JPM for
a new job at the hedge fund at a hedge fund,
before rising to run Barclays in twenty and fifteen. Now,
I guess it's just another coincidence, right, That's what people
who want to That's what they'll tell you. Oh, it's
just another coincidence. Me, I don't know what to call it. Sure,

(35:27):
are a lot of coincidences. In this case, camera's not
pointing at the jail cell. He happens to leave in
twenty and thirteen, right when the relationship with Epstein ends.
You know, just a coincidence, I guess, folks. But really
what's going on here is you see the correlation, the
relationship with Epstein and Jess Staley. It was a tight
one and Staley was a huge, huge deal when it

(35:49):
comes to making the money move. Staley's support for Epstein
at JP Morgan underscores his long standing ties to the
disgraced financier pedophile and how he advocated on Epstein's behalf
well before it resulted in Staley's exit from Barclay's late
last year. In November, report surface that Staley and Epstein

(36:10):
had exchanged around twelve hundred emails during Staley's thirty year
tenure at JP Morgan. Some emails revealed questionable and unexplained
phrases like snow white, according to the FT, and we
talked about this too, snow white. I mean, look, you
can delve into a lot of different things when you're
talking about code words and find yourself down a lot

(36:31):
of rabbit holes. But they're obviously using some kind of
code here.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Now, I'm not one of the wind talkers. I'm not
going to sit here and tell you, oh I've I
got my little decoder ring out of the cheerio box
and I figured it all out. But they're obviously up
to something. Staley stepped down from Barclays in November after
he reviewed initial findings from a probe by UK regulators
into whether he had mischaracterized his relationship with Epstein as

(36:57):
purely professional. According to the FT, Staley is contesting the findings.
JP Morgan declined to comment to the FT. A spokesman
for Staley also declined to comment. Shocking right, and they'll
get away with it. Nobody will hand these people no way,
they're too busy covering the Stormy Daniels case. Staley has

(37:18):
stated his relationship with Epstein fizzled following the banker's departure
from JP Morgan. And that's an ongoing theme too, right, Oh,
our relationship fizzled, Our relationship ended, shocking. But even after
he left the bank, helmed by Jamie Diamond, he visited
Epstein at his private island in the Caribbean, Little Saint James,
according to reports. And I you know, Jamie Diamond will

(37:39):
never get called on the carpet for this either.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Never. He's you know, one of the golden boys.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
For all of the political class. Remember, folks, who's holding
the bag here?

Speaker 2 (37:49):
It ain't you?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Well you think your one hundred two hundred dollars donation
to insert politician here is moving the needle. They're not
accepting your call when you call their office, are they?
You're getting a staffer? You think Jamie Diamond gets a
staffer if he calls the office of whatever politician he's
looking to talk to. Staley worked at Blue Mountain Capital
from twenty and thirteen to twenty and fifteen before nabbing

(38:13):
the top job at Barclays in twenty and fifteen. Meanwhile,
Epstein began working with Deutsche Bank in twenty and thirteen,
according to the FT, after being cut off by JP
Morgan following Staley's departure from JP Morgan. Epstein died in
twenty and nineteen in prison as he awaited trial on
charges he's sex trafficked miners. Now, Deutsche Bank is just

(38:36):
a den of scum and villainy, and they've been slapped
with so many fines that it's not even funny. And
now my question is how many people have they hit
with the poor people tax? And what I mean by
the poor people tax is the inflated rates of borrowing
the finance rates. How many people have they absolutely hammered

(38:58):
with a twenty percent rate on a car for a
piece of garbage car that's hardly gonna last. These people
are just gross. Honestly, at this level, when we're talking
about this level of banker and the way they conduct themselves,
you think they care about the survivors or that Jeffrey
Epstein was a convicted sex offender. No way, he brought

(39:18):
more money to their pockets, more prestige, opened some more doors,
had some more relationships built for them, and like I
always say, with people like this, the means always justifies
the ends, and to the rest of us, we look
around and we just shake our heads, like, really, one's
enough enough. Don't you people have enough money? Don't you
have enough power? But for them the answer is always no. Now,

(39:42):
Jess Daley is somebody I've been talking about for a
long time, and before the pandemic, I said that he
was in big trouble back then, and it took a
little while. Obviously Barclays was trying to write the ship,
if you will, during the pandemic and didn't want to
upset the apple cart. But the writing was on the wall.
And it's no shock to me that he's out, especially

(40:04):
considering we know how much deeper his relationship with Epstein
went then they even let on. So that's where we're
at with Jess Staley and the situation he finds himself
in currently. Now onto our next article from The Mirror.
This article was authored by Alana Kindred headline nine times,

(40:26):
Prince Andrew and Glainne Maxwell looked like good pals as
he denies closeness. Now, we talked about this a little
bit earlier. What a ridiculous claim, How are you gonna
say to anybody that you and Ghlainne Maxwell weren't close.
It's so ridiculous that his lawyers would even add this.
I just don't even know what to say about it, honestly,

(40:47):
Prince strongly as excuse me, Prince Andrew is strongly denied
he was close friends with now convicted sex trafficker Glainne Maxwell.
At least they got it right and called her a
convicted sex trafficker here, that's a good start. The Duke
of York reported attempt to distance himself from Maxwell comes
as he has demanded a trial by combat, I mean
a trial by Jerry, denying to a New York court

(41:08):
a catalog of sex abuse allegations brought by his accuser,
Virginia Roberts. So obviously that was the first salvo for
him answering these accusations and giving us this ridiculousness that
we're talking about still tonight. On December twenty ninth, Maxwell sixty,
was found guilty of offenses relating to her work as

(41:30):
a fixer for the Duke's associate Jeffrey Epstein, a convicted
pedophile and billionaire. She faces up to sixty five years
in prison. So a couple things. Duke's associate Jeffrey Epstein.
There were both of the Duke's associates, okay, and I
would say that he was probably closer to GLEAINN. Maxwell
than he was to Epstein. Even let's remember Glaiinne Maxwell

(41:50):
was the gatekeeper to the Miss Roberts claims that Epstein
and Maxwell made her have sex with the Duke three
times when she was seventeen, including once in London. Prince Andrew,
who has always strongly denied the allegations, but up until
now it was a very generic version of denial. Right, Well,

(42:11):
he dropped his formal denial, and I guess you can
see why he kept a generic for so long, because
he has nothing to go on. In an eleven page
response to Miss Roberts lawsuit yesterday, Andrew denied wrongdoing, but
he did say in this document that he met Epstein
in or around nineteen ninety nine. The Prince refuted her

(42:32):
major claims while admitting to befriending Epstein, but denied he
was ever a close pal of British socialite Maxwell. Trafficker Maxwell,
you mean and again, absolutely ridiculous, ludicrous, moronic, stupid, gaslighting whatever,
you want to call it, it's all of that, because
we know it's not the case. We've seen the pictures.

(42:55):
The Duke sixty one said it was not true and
he was a free that it was not true that
he was a frequent guest of Epstein's various homes around
the world, including New York City, where he's sexually abused
Virginia Roberts at Epstein and Maxwell's invitation when she was
a minor. Andrew's strenuous denials of not being close with
Maxwell comes years after the pair have been photographed together

(43:18):
on multiple occasions around the world. I mean yeah, around
the world. Everywhere you can imagine. These two have been
photographed together. They had a long history together, folks. And
you don't have access to the palace the way she did,
or to the property of the way she did, if
you're not close to somebody. Epstein and Maxwell at Balmoral.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
The photo of.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Epstein and Maxwell sitting in the Queen's log cabin in
glenn Beg, Balmoral was taken in the late summer or
early autumn of nineteen ninety nine. So there's one for you.
You know, you got the picture of these two at
Ballymoral certainly not a good look for them. The next instant,
Andrew Maxwell, Donald Trump, and Epstein and mar A Lago.

(44:04):
February two thousand, Andrew was photographed with Donald Trump and
his wife Malania Trump. In the background, you see Epstein
looking directly at the camera and Maxwell's face is scene
peering into the frame on the right hand side. I mean,
we all know that these people were all paling around together.
It's not even a debate at this point. Now we
don't know exactly the specific roles of every single person involved,

(44:30):
but we do know anyone that was hanging out with
Jeffrey Epstein knew what he was about, knew that he
was not a normal guy. And if you were hanging
out with him after the first conviction, you knew he
was a convicted sex offender. Andrew and Maxwell at Ascot.
Prince Andrew and Maxwell attended the Royal Ascot in June
two thousand. They were photographed with Epstein, another one of

(44:52):
the Duke's former girlfriends, Carolyn Neville and her husband Edward Stanley,
Andrew and Maxwell leaving the wedding of a former girlfriend
September two thousand. The Duke attended the wedding of his
former girlfriend or really a cecial with Maxwell. The pair
arrived together but walked in separately, according to reports at
the time. I mean, look, all of these different examples

(45:14):
are just more evidence of the BS he was trying
to run on us. The next one Andrew and Maxwell
partying at a Halloween party. The pair were photographed together
at supermodel Heidi Klum's Halloween party in October of two thousand.
Now remember how close they were at this point in time.
And now Andrew will tell you, oh, well, we weren't close.
So what are you doing at the Hookers in the

(45:38):
Pimps and Hose party, Hookers and Pimps theme bash at
the Hudson Hotel, Because that's what you were doing at
the Halloween party with at Howdi Klum's Halloween party. So
you're there with Maxwell, but you're not close, you don't
know her. You just go to hookers and Pimps party,
Pimps and hose party. I mean, when I worked in
the joint here in Las Vegas, those parties were absolutely

(46:01):
insane types of parties invited on a shooting weekend at Sandringham.
Photos from December two thousand have shown Maxwell and Epstein
on a pheasant shoot with Andrew. They spent the weekend
in Norfolk at the Sandringham estate. Andrew spoke to the
BBC Newsnight in twenty nineteen about his links to Epstein
and when he was asked about that weekend, he said,

(46:23):
it was a straightforward shooting weekend. Whatever that means. Anyone
want to explain to the rest of us what that
means a straight forward shooting weekend. What you have bent
shooting weekends, crooked shooting weekends. What is a straightforward shooting weekend?
Andrew photographed with Roberts and Maxwell in London. Now we
all know about this photograph. I'm not even gonna go

(46:43):
into it. Maxwell and Kevin Spacey's tour of the palace.
So we know Kevin Spacey and Maxwell had a tour
of the palace, got the pictures, the whole nine. So again,
how are you going to tell us that you're not
close with Glene Maxwell? And then fine for this article,
but certainly not the last time they were hanging out Andrew, Maxwell,

(47:04):
Epstein and Harvey Weinstein at Andrew's daughter Beatrice's birthday in
two thousand and six. Beatrice's eighteenth birthday party was held
at Windsor Castle. Photos published in the Sun on Sunday
shows now convicted sex offender Harvey Weinstein with Epstein and
Maxwell talk about the Three Stooges, the three gross disgusting morons.

(47:25):
Maxwell wore a feathered mask as she smiled and in photos
taken at the bash that was attended by some four
hundred guests. Epstein was being investigated by US authorities at
the time he attended the party. Two months later, he
was issued a warrant for sexual assault of a miner.
You mean to tell me that nobody warned the Prince.
Nobody in the Foreign Affairs Office called over and said, hey, look, dude,

(47:46):
Jeffrey Epstein's sick fuck boys. What are you guys doing?
Maybe they didn't, but I'll tell you what. Either way,
what's Prince Andrew doing? I mean, here's an idea. Why
don't you google the people you're hanging out with. During
a newsnight interview in twenty nineteen, Andrew claimed he didn't
know about the proceedings and that Epstein had attended because

(48:08):
he had invited Maxwell. So again, he says in the interview,
he invited Maxwell, but all of a sudden, him and
Epstein were the close ones. None of it makes sense,
all right, the whole story he's pitching, and this whole
entire line that him and Maxwell weren't close might be
what sinks him here. And that's why I wanted to
focus on this again tonight. Pretty sure Judge Kaplan's going

(48:29):
to take a look at this and say the same
thing I'm saying, what are you talking about, Buddy? I
see the evidence here. You were obviously close to her,
And if you can't be truthful about the very basics,
the small little nuance, then you're definitely not being truthful
about the overall story either. So that's where it's at
with Prince Andrew. And when you look at the rebuttal

(48:52):
he put forward here, it is absolutely ridiculous. And for
him and his legal team, I mean maybe they were
excited when they put that together. They all had a toast,
maybe clanked a couple of glasses, thought they did a
good job.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
But boys, tell you.

Speaker 1 (49:08):
What, barely getting a C grade here, and lucky to
get that, because this whole entire response was not the
right way to go about it in my opinion. Anyway,
I guess we'll have to see, we'll come back and
we'll check this episode after all is said and done,
and we'll see if I was close to the mark

(49:29):
or not. But so far, when we're talking about these
people and the way they've gone about defending themselves, this
has not been the right way to do it. They've
all failed, and I would expect to see Prince Andrew
fail as well if he keeps this up. Especially so
tomorrow morning we'll pick back up and we'll see what's
going on with Maxwell and Epstein and Andrew and the

(49:51):
rest of them. And you know that we're going to
have a couple of curves in the road, if you will,
and some more bumps before we get to the end,
because there is so much more we do not know.
For everything that we do know, there's a ton more
that we don't know. And every day more becomes available,
and as we get more document dumps and more things

(50:13):
are unsealed, hopefully we'll get more information and the picture
will become more clear. All right, everybody that's gonna do
it for tonight. I will be back tomorrow morning with
a morning update. Obviously some context episodes come in your
way in the meantime, and we'll be off and running.
If you'd like to contact me. You can do that

(50:34):
at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bby
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