October 15, 2025 • 27 mins
Court filings and witness testimony revealed one of the most grotesque and surreal details of the Jeffrey Epstein saga: a caricature puppet of Prince Andrew allegedly used during an encounter at Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse in 2001. Both Virginia Giuffre and Johanna Sjoberg testified that the puppet, resembling Andrew’s likeness from the satirical TV show Spitting Image, was brought out by Ghislaine Maxwell as a prop while Andrew sat with them on a couch. According to Sjoberg’s sworn deposition, Maxwell placed the puppet’s hand on Giuffre’s breast while Andrew simultaneously touched Sjoberg’s. Maxwell, when later questioned under oath, admitted to recalling the puppet but denied gifting it or participating in any sexual act. The bizarre nature of the claim—royalty, puppetry, and sexual humiliation—made it one of the most unsettling anecdotes to surface from the trove of unsealed Epstein documents.
Prince Andrew’s continued status as a Counsellor of State—a constitutional role allowing him to act on behalf of the monarch—remains one of the most glaring contradictions within the modern British monarchy. Despite being forced to step back from public life after his disastrous Newsnight interview and subsequent settlement in Virginia Giuffre’s civil suit, Andrew legally retains the ability to perform official duties if King Charles III were incapacitated or abroad. That includes signing state documents and receiving new ambassadors. The arrangement exists because the law automatically grants Counsellor status to the sovereign’s spouse and the next four adults in the line of succession over the age of 21, meaning Andrew’s position persists by statute, not choice. Critics across the political spectrum have called it a constitutional embarrassment—one that symbolically undermines the monarchy’s moral authority by keeping a figure tainted by scandal in a position of potential power.
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Prince Andrew’s continued status as a Counsellor of State—a constitutional role allowing him to act on behalf of the monarch—remains one of the most glaring contradictions within the modern British monarchy. Despite being forced to step back from public life after his disastrous Newsnight interview and subsequent settlement in Virginia Giuffre’s civil suit, Andrew legally retains the ability to perform official duties if King Charles III were incapacitated or abroad. That includes signing state documents and receiving new ambassadors. The arrangement exists because the law automatically grants Counsellor status to the sovereign’s spouse and the next four adults in the line of succession over the age of 21, meaning Andrew’s position persists by statute, not choice. Critics across the political spectrum have called it a constitutional embarrassment—one that symbolically undermines the monarchy’s moral authority by keeping a figure tainted by scandal in a position of potential power.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So you all remember the story about Prince Andrew and
the puppet that was made in his likeness that he
allegedly used to assault a young lady with. Well, now
we have a man named Steve Wright, who is a puppeteer,
(00:22):
who says that Prince Andrew told him about this the
puppet in that was made in his likeness, and about
how it was purchased by Epstein et cetera, et cetera,
all the way back in two thousand and three. So
that basically corroborates what Miss Schuberg and what Virginia was
(00:43):
telling us. Once again, more corroboration and what it is,
it comes out in these little trickles. Right, there's like
these little nuggets all over these articles that we have
read for the past year, and you have to go
through and you have to farm all of those little
nuggets and you have to put them together and build
the picture for yourself because the bitch ass legacy media
(01:04):
will never do it. You would think that they would
come back and talk a little bit about that kind
of stuff, right, they'd add more context and they dig
a little bit more than just under the surface. But no,
they won't do that. So it's up to us independent
content creators and up to you folks out there who
were interested to put the pieces together. So that's what
(01:26):
we continue to do here on the podcast. And this
story we're going to read this morning is just another
one of those type of situations where we're going to
add a little more context. And what it does is
it basically corroborates Virginia's story about what occurred that night.
So let's jump into this article from the Daily Mail
(01:48):
just and let's see what's going on with the Joe
Exotic of the Windsor family and the puppet that look
like them. Headline Prince Andrew remembered seeing spitting image doll
at center of grope claim in Jeffrey Epstein's New York
home claims Award winning puppeteer Steve Wright. Steve Wright. Now,
(02:10):
why would this man, Steve Wright lie? What would he
have to gain by coming out and saying that this
occurred if it didn't occur. Nothing. He's coming out and
he's telling his story because guess what, folks, the Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family is a reprehensible ass character
and nobody really likes him. The only reason anyone that
(02:32):
even suffered him before was because he was the queen's
son and a prince of the blood. Now that he
has fallen into ill repute with the royal family, now
that he has found himself no longer as a working royal, well,
people are going to start talking. People aren't so worried
(02:53):
about what he might be able to do to them
if they come out against him. And we've seen that
more and more. More and more of that occur as
we move forward in this story, and not just with
the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, but with these
other so called elites as well. This article was authored
(03:14):
by Mark Hookham and Lucy Moses. Joe Exotic of the
Windsor Family recalled seeing a spitting image puppet of himself
at the home of US pedophile Jeffrey Epstein during a
function at Buckingham Palace The Mail on Sunday ken reveal.
(03:34):
So first things first, it's nice that the Daily Mail
is calling him what he is, Jeffrey Epstein, that is
a pedophile. And it's nice that they're not calling him
a financier. Thought we put that in the past a
long time ago, but there's still some outlets out there.
That still want to call him a financier and Gilaine
(03:55):
Maxwell is socialite, and well, I don't know why they
would want to continue to do that, but they do.
So it's nice every time we get an article and
we don't see any of that bs in it. Steve Wright,
an award winning puppeteer, says the Duke of York told
him at the two thousand and three reception that his
(04:16):
own puppet from this satrical TV show had been brought
by a friend in New York and how how it
had been used to play a prank on him. So
he admitted that story right here and right now. Let's
focus on that. He just outed himself when he told
this Steve Wright guy that his buddy, a friend quote
(04:38):
unquote friend in New York bought a puppet to play
a joke on him. Well, he just outed himself and
corroborated what Virginia has has went on record and said,
and what Miss Schuberg had come out and said as well. So,
how do any of his eight defenders left in the
(04:59):
world expla how do you explain all of this stuff
that has been piling up about this moron? The Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family. How do you explain it
if it's all not true. It's just everybody's out to
get him. A play a puppeteer, Stephen Wright is out
to get him. He has a a grievance against Prince Andrew.
(05:23):
Is that what you would have us believe, Steve Stully?
He has a grievance against Prince Andrew. Those girls in
the nightclub, they have a grievance. I'm sorry. The fact
of the matter is, at least in my opinion and
from what we have available to us, is that Prince
Andrew aka the Prince of Nothing, aka the Prince of
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Toads aka the Joe Exotic of the Winsor family, is
lying to us. The puppeteer was one of six hundred
guests and had been nominated to attend because of his
contribution to education. So there was six hundred people at
this party. This puppeteer had a conversation with Prince Andrew,
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and Prince Andrew, trying to make himself out like somebody
in the know, starts talking to this guy about his
own puppet experience. Little did Prince Andrew know that all
of this shit would be compiled and years later it
would come out and hang over his head. And that's
what's happening right now. It's hanging directly over his head
(06:31):
because look, he says he doesn't even know Virginia, but
all of the stuff around his story seems to be
a lie. He has nobody to corroborate his story. Who's
going to corroborate it? The bipedal serpent, Guilean Maxwell, his
disgusting pedophile friend who's pushing up daisies. He has no witnesses,
(06:57):
he has nothing, He has no truth. And when he
tried to come out and tell his side of the story,
well we saw what sort of epic failure that was.
And without any truth and without any receipts, how can
anyone expect the world and civilization as a whole to
(07:17):
believe this man. I don't care that he's a prince.
I don't give a damn who he is. The exchange
appears to at least partly verify claims that socialite. See,
they screwed up here. They did a good job at
first with calling him a pedophile. Now they call her
a socialite, So I guess I have to correct that. Huh, socialite? Well,
(07:41):
how about fellow child abuse, her general all around scusbag
and bipedal serpent. Keilaine Maxwell presented the Prince with the
puppet in April two thousand and one in Epstein's New
York home. Yeah, look, this is this is a matter
of record at this point. We've known about this for
(08:03):
quite some time from Virginia's statements, and now that Stephen
Wright is coming out and he's corroborating it, well, it
just makes sense that the rest of the story that
she told was true, doesn't it. How long are people
going to try and deny the facts here? How long
are loyalists going to remain loyal? It is alleged that
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Andrew used the puppet to grow Virginia Roberts, then aged seventeen,
and Johanna Schuberg, one of Epstein's former sex slaves, then
twenty one in the Mansion study. So both of these
girls went on record and said this occurred. The Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family, out of his own stank
ass mouth, told Stephen Wright about his friend in New
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York and the puppet that they use to play a
joke on him. So that's called circumstantial evidence, all right,
And when there's enough of that, well, that means you
usually bring the subject in. But Andrew has been able
to skirt and avoid justice for far too long. In fact,
(09:12):
he won't even come in and give a witness statement.
In an unpublished book, Ms Roberts, who claimed she was
forced to have sex with Joe Exotica of the Winsor
family on three occasions, wrote that when Andrew cut my
breast with a doll made in his image, I only
giggled away. I mean, cheeze, Louise. Who does I mean,
(09:36):
You're the Prince of England? What are you doing? Bro?
I mean, honestly, you have all the money in the world.
You could have whatever sort of kink you on fulfilled
by paying a few bucks and getting something ordered in.
You don't need to be out here cavorting with Jeffrey
Epstein with all of these young girls. You don't know
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how old they are, you don't know who they are,
you don't know their story. But here you are out
here groping them with a puppet that's made in your image,
and then you're gonna act like you don't even know
this girl. After the fact that we saw the pictures
we've had the corroborating stories. It is not a good look.
In fact, it makes you look guilty as hell. Miss
(10:22):
Schoeper testified to the alleged incident in a twenty sixteen
legal deposition, describing how Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family
and Miss Roberts were sitting on a couch with the puppet. So, again,
this is not just Virginia who is coming out and
saying this, right. This is not just something that has
just been thrown out there. This is two people who
(10:44):
are relaying the same story, the same account, and another person,
a third person, corroborating that Prince Andrew admitted that there
is a puppet that was made in his likeness, and
so then I sat on Andrew's life, and I believe
on my own volition, and they took the puppets hands
(11:04):
and put it on Virginia's breast, and so Andrew put
his on mind. She added, the Duke has always strenuously
denied having sex with Miss Roberts and any other wrongdoing.
So they're both lying, right, Both of these gals are lying.
Virginia's a liar, Johanna's a liar. Everyone is a liar.
(11:25):
But you I should believe you another bipedal serpent over
these girls who have nothing to gain. What did they
have to gain when they came out against Epstein? Nothing
more scorn, more life in hiding. So I don't know
what you think these girls had to gain when they
(11:46):
came out and expose this shit. But the fact of
the matter is Andrew's gonna need to do better than
some bullshit ass, weak ass attempt on Emily Maitliss's news show.
He's going to have to speak to authorities, and he's
going to have to really be forthcoming. In lieu of that.
(12:07):
Then I think that the Department of Justice should move
forward and aggressively to prosecute Andrew and bring him in
for questioning over Virginia's claims. Because if it was an
average person, a normal man, and somebody made these claims
against him, they would be in jail, they would be
answering questions, and at the very least they would have
(12:29):
to go under oath. But none of that has occurred
with Andrew. I think he's been given ample time to
do the right thing, So if he doesn't want to
do the right thing, he has to be compelled to
do so. Mister Wright, fifty five, who uses puppet characters
to teach young people about issues including sexual health, recalled
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how the Prince became animated when he told him about
his work. And you see, this is where another thing
with Andrew. He always tries to fit in right, even
though he's the Prince and people should be trying to
fit in with him. He has such a I don't
know what you would even call it, but a character
flaw where he's one of these people that has to
fit in. And he found out this guy was a puppeteer,
(13:11):
and he couldn't keep his fat yap shut. He had
to act like he knew about puppets. Oh, my good
friend Jeffrey Epstein had one ha ha ha ha ha.
It was made in my likeness and for a joke,
he said. I told him I was a puppeteer and
how I just started making puppet shows and that people
really like him like them. Excuse me. Then I showed
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him a picture of one of my puppets, and he
had a clear facial reaction. The story literally exploded out
of him. He said, oh, my god, puppets spitting image.
Do you know that my friend brought my spitting image? Puppet,
and you'll never believe it. He played a trick on me.
So that right there is the Joe Exotic of the
(13:54):
Wingsor family admitting himself that the puppet exists and that
Jeffrey Epstein or his friend in New York bought it
for him. What more do we need to face the
music that what these gals are saying is true, and
what these survivors are alleging is true. All the evidence
is there. You have to be one absolutely stuck in
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the mud moron to not see the forest through the
trees here. He told me he went to an apartment
in New York and saw the bloody thing sitting up
on the sofa, and that he nearly had a bloody
heart attack as he was there looking at himself. Oh yeah,
I'm sure a bloody heart attack. Huh were you sweating though?
(14:42):
Did any beads of sweat drip down your stank ass
royal forehead? Mister Wright from Huddersfield said he learnt of
the allegations about the Spitting Image puppet earlier this year.
Why would she, miss Roberts make up a story about puppets?
It all just clicked, he said. Last night a spokesman
for the Duke declined to comment. Well, yeah, I agree.
(15:04):
Why would she make that kind of story up about puppets?
That's she came up with that. Huh She of Virginia
sitting around racking her brain and decided, Oh, yeah, puppets,
that's a good idea. I'm gonna say, he used a
puppet to grow me. What the no, I'm sorry, it
doesn't ring true. It doesn't pass the smell test. You know,
(15:24):
it sounds true, and you know it seems to be
the fact of the matter here that the puppet existed
and that you, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family,
did everything that these girls are alleging that you did.
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c
(15:47):
ap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also
find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap u Cci.
All of the links that oh that this episode can
be found in the description box. What's up everyone, and
welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One of the roles
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that Prince Andrew has been able to scratch and Claw's
way to keeping has been his counselor role. Well, that
party's about to end as well as King Charles. His
brother has decided that he's going to shake things up,
and not only will Andrew lose this counselor's role, but
also his son Harry. So things are definitely on the
(16:30):
change in the royal family. And this is something I
talked about previously. Once the Queen's gone as she is,
there would be big changes. The sentiment of the public
is certainly not in the favor of King Charles. He's
not a beloved figure. People remember Diana, people remember Jimmy Saville,
people remember the bags of the bin laden family cash
(16:51):
And I'm just scratching the surface, but he is not
a beloved figure like the Queen was. So he's really
playing a dangerous game with each decision he makes. Previously,
they had the ability to fall back on the Queen
when something went wrong and her image, her persona, and
the love of the people that they had for her, well,
(17:13):
that would help carry the day. Now they don't have
that to rely on anymore, so they're gonna have to
navigate the minefield in a much more let us say,
careful manner than they have previously. And I honestly don't
know if they're up for the task. For so long,
all of them have had the Queen picking up after them,
(17:34):
and they all knew that they had the Queen's great
resources to dive into if shit went south like it
did for Prince Andrew. Do you really think that Prince
Andrew would have been able to navigate all of this
if his mother wasn't as beloved as she was, Say,
she wasn't around, and all of this happened under King Charles,
how different do you think it would have been? My
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guess is a whole lot different, folks. And now that
the Queen is gone, Charles realizes that the party is
over and it's time to pare down the monarchy, and
it's time to show the people that he's taking his
job seriously. So today we're going to talk about how
Prince Andrew has his role as a counselor snatched from
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him and really he has nothing left. Oh, Sherry's the
Duke of York, but the people of York don't even
want him. So go and walk the Corgis, go and
ride your horse, and go and watch Love Island because
the rest of the world wants nothing to do with you.
Today's article is from the BBC headline Prince Andrew and
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Prince Harry royal councilor roles are challenged. This article was
authored by Sean Coughlin and it was published by the BBC.
Prince Andrew and Prince Harry's roles in being allowed to
stand in for the for King Charles for official duties
has been challenged in the House of Lords. They remain
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two of the five counselors of State who can carry
out important constitutional duties if the monarch is unwell or overseas,
and the talk is that this is a done deal
that Andrew will lose this role and so will Harry.
Now the whole Harry situation, Look, I've said it from
Jump Street. I'm not interested in his life or Megan Markles.
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I really don't care. That's a diversion for me. But
as far as him losing his counselor role, if it's
just because he married Megan Markele and moved to America,
is that really the right way to go about it
for this kid? Give him the Prince Andrew treatment. Again,
I don't know the monarchy as well as a lot
of you out there, who follow it. So I'm just
(19:40):
talking about it from Layman's terms, basically right my seat
here in the Peanut Gallery, and from where I'm sitting,
it certainly doesn't look to me that Harry did anything
that comes close to what Andrew did. Viscount Stansgate questioned
their status when one had left public life and the
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other had left the country. It was time for a
sensible amendment to end this arrangement, he said. And look again,
I'm not too hip to all of the English laws
and customs and what goes on in the House of Commons.
I'd be a liar if I sat here and told
you that I am an expert in how that works.
But I can understand why these elected officials here would
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be pretty adamant to have Prince Andrew, especially removed from
this role. God forbid. Imagine something did happen and we
turn on our TVs and this dumbass is there smiling
at us. The Joe exotic of the Windsor family might
as well have Liz Trust standing next to him to
complete the embarrassment. Lord Addington, a liberal Democrat, suggested that
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working royals, somebody who actually undertakes royal duties should be
given priority for these roles. Yes, if you're going to
have a royal in these roles, it should be somebody
who's considered a quote un quote working royal. No, I
don't understand you just have anyone stand in here. The
guy's not even part of the royal family, So what's
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the big deal if he keeps the title or not.
In response to questions from peers, the Lord Privy Seal
Lord True said he would not comment on specific circumstances
and the Royal household would need to be would need
to be consulted about any change. First of all, the
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fact that you guys still have a Lord of the
Privy Seal over there is kind of cool, right. Reminds
me of a Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon.
Can I come sit in on the King's Small Council please?
But all kidding aside, You would think that people would
be pushing for this right, not saying, oh, well, we're
gonna punt it to the royals and to the Royal
(21:50):
house so they can make the decision. Now. I think
Charles is going to make the right decision here because
he understands the optics and what he's up against. But
as far as him being a good man and this
being a decision that he's going into and he's happy about,
I don't know about all that. Honestly, I'm not a
huge fan of the royals in general, and Charles and
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his relationship with Jimmy Saville really grosses me out. Then
you talk about Lord mount Batten, who was his mentor,
and what he's charged with or accused of, and starts
to build a profile that is pretty disgusting. But Lord
True told the House of Lords the government will always
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consider what arrangements are needed to ensure resilience in our
constitutional arrangements, and in the past we have seen that
the point of extension has proved a useful opportunity to
consider the arrangements in place. Well, I would think that
they try and push for that no matter what. But again,
I don't think they're gonna have to push too hard.
I think that Prince King Charles is going to do
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this pretty much on his own, and if the House
of Lords and the House of Commons are willing to
back the decision, so much the better. Because I don't
know who wants to come out in public here and
stand up for Andrew now I can understand Harry, like
I said, you know, I don't know why there's so
much craziness around the dude for just wanting to leave.
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But Andrew, there shouldn't even be a conversation here. This
dude should be stripped of every single title he has,
including the Duke of York title, and he should be
left to sit around in the living room eating Cheetos
and watching shitty daytime television for the rest of his life.
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Under the Regency Act, the counselors of State are the
spouse of the monarch and the next foreign line of
succession over the age of twenty one. At present, these
are Camilla, the Queen Consort, Prince William, the Prince of Wales,
Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Prince Andrew, Duke of York,
and his daughter, Princess Beatrice. So, right off the bat,
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do we really want Princess Beatrice? No offense to her.
I don't have any beef with her, but really she's
somebody that should be standing in for the king here.
Has she ever been to any of these meetings sat in?
So that's a little weird. Prince Andrew, come on, man, really,
you might as well, go and dig up Jimmy Saville
and have him come and be Prince Andrew's counselor Harry Again,
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I don't really get the whole pomp and circumstance. If
the kid's capable to stand in as a counselor, he
is of the royal blood right. Just because he lives
somewhere else doesn't mean he's not of the royal blood anymore.
So I don't see the big issue there. But like
I said, I get it. I'm not a royalist or
a historian of the monarchy, so I don't know all
of the ins and outs. I'm just telling you from
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somebody as an observer. There's no way in hell, under
any circumstances, even if the whole family, God forbid, was
to get the Black plague, Prince Andrew should never be
near that crown, never be near the throne. Ever, they
can carry out official duties such as signing documents, receiving
ambassadors or attending Privy Council meetings if the monarch is
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if the monarch is temporarily ill or abroad, what I
think we need over here in the UK is a
hand of the king. Right, got to get yourself a
hand of the king, the king eats and the hand
takes the shit. That's how the saying goes. Labor Peer
Viscount Stansgate, who is Stephen Benn, the eldest son of
Labor politician Tony Benn, said this showed the value of
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updating the Regency Act to ensure royals were available to
stand in. It's the only reason why it was possible
to open the current session of this Parliament, he told peers,
and he called on government to approach the King over
changes to the current arrangements. Now that Prince Harry was
living in the United States and Prince Andrew no longer
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carried out royal duties, changes to the legislation would be
the responsibility of the Cabinet Office. N spokeswoman referred back
to the comments of the Lord Privy Seal. Represent Representatives
of Prince Harry and Prince Andrew declined to comment. Well,
look either way, Prince Andrew certainly doesn't deserve to have
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his name anywhere near any of this stuff, so he
should be launched into orbit. He shouldn't be a counselor.
And I'm sure there are plenty of other people who
are capable of doing that job in the royal family.
So let's get to it. Prince Charles, stop by me, now,
King Charles, quit counting your bin laden cash for a minute,
and let's take some action here. All right, folks, it's
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going to do it for this episode. If you'd like
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi
at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bb Y c ap
you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap Ucci. The
(26:56):
link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
So you all remember the story about Prince Andrew and
the puppet that was made in his likeness that he
allegedly used to assault a young lady with. Well, now
we have a man named Steve Wright, who is a puppeteer,
(00:22):
who says that Prince Andrew told him about this the
puppet in that was made in his likeness, and about
how it was purchased by Epstein et cetera, et cetera,
all the way back in two thousand and three. So
that basically corroborates what Miss Schuberg and what Virginia was
(00:43):
telling us. Once again, more corroboration and what it is,
it comes out in these little trickles. Right, there's like
these little nuggets all over these articles that we have
read for the past year, and you have to go
through and you have to farm all of those little
nuggets and you have to put them together and build
the picture for yourself because the bitch ass legacy media
(01:04):
will never do it. You would think that they would
come back and talk a little bit about that kind
of stuff, right, they'd add more context and they dig
a little bit more than just under the surface. But no,
they won't do that. So it's up to us independent
content creators and up to you folks out there who
were interested to put the pieces together. So that's what
(01:26):
we continue to do here on the podcast. And this
story we're going to read this morning is just another
one of those type of situations where we're going to
add a little more context. And what it does is
it basically corroborates Virginia's story about what occurred that night.
So let's jump into this article from the Daily Mail
(01:48):
just and let's see what's going on with the Joe
Exotic of the Windsor family and the puppet that look
like them. Headline Prince Andrew remembered seeing spitting image doll
at center of grope claim in Jeffrey Epstein's New York
home claims Award winning puppeteer Steve Wright. Steve Wright. Now,
(02:10):
why would this man, Steve Wright lie? What would he
have to gain by coming out and saying that this
occurred if it didn't occur. Nothing. He's coming out and
he's telling his story because guess what, folks, the Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family is a reprehensible ass character
and nobody really likes him. The only reason anyone that
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even suffered him before was because he was the queen's
son and a prince of the blood. Now that he
has fallen into ill repute with the royal family, now
that he has found himself no longer as a working royal, well,
people are going to start talking. People aren't so worried
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about what he might be able to do to them
if they come out against him. And we've seen that
more and more. More and more of that occur as
we move forward in this story, and not just with
the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, but with these
other so called elites as well. This article was authored
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by Mark Hookham and Lucy Moses. Joe Exotic of the
Windsor Family recalled seeing a spitting image puppet of himself
at the home of US pedophile Jeffrey Epstein during a
function at Buckingham Palace The Mail on Sunday ken reveal.
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So first things first, it's nice that the Daily Mail
is calling him what he is, Jeffrey Epstein, that is
a pedophile. And it's nice that they're not calling him
a financier. Thought we put that in the past a
long time ago, but there's still some outlets out there.
That still want to call him a financier and Gilaine
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Maxwell is socialite, and well, I don't know why they
would want to continue to do that, but they do.
So it's nice every time we get an article and
we don't see any of that bs in it. Steve Wright,
an award winning puppeteer, says the Duke of York told
him at the two thousand and three reception that his
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own puppet from this satrical TV show had been brought
by a friend in New York and how how it
had been used to play a prank on him. So
he admitted that story right here and right now. Let's
focus on that. He just outed himself when he told
this Steve Wright guy that his buddy, a friend quote
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unquote friend in New York bought a puppet to play
a joke on him. Well, he just outed himself and
corroborated what Virginia has has went on record and said,
and what Miss Schuberg had come out and said as well. So,
how do any of his eight defenders left in the
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world expla how do you explain all of this stuff
that has been piling up about this moron? The Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family. How do you explain it
if it's all not true. It's just everybody's out to
get him. A play a puppeteer, Stephen Wright is out
to get him. He has a a grievance against Prince Andrew.
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Is that what you would have us believe, Steve Stully?
He has a grievance against Prince Andrew. Those girls in
the nightclub, they have a grievance. I'm sorry. The fact
of the matter is, at least in my opinion and
from what we have available to us, is that Prince
Andrew aka the Prince of Nothing, aka the Prince of
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Toads aka the Joe Exotic of the Winsor family, is
lying to us. The puppeteer was one of six hundred
guests and had been nominated to attend because of his
contribution to education. So there was six hundred people at
this party. This puppeteer had a conversation with Prince Andrew,
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and Prince Andrew, trying to make himself out like somebody
in the know, starts talking to this guy about his
own puppet experience. Little did Prince Andrew know that all
of this shit would be compiled and years later it
would come out and hang over his head. And that's
what's happening right now. It's hanging directly over his head
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because look, he says he doesn't even know Virginia, but
all of the stuff around his story seems to be
a lie. He has nobody to corroborate his story. Who's
going to corroborate it? The bipedal serpent, Guilean Maxwell, his
disgusting pedophile friend who's pushing up daisies. He has no witnesses,
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he has nothing, He has no truth. And when he
tried to come out and tell his side of the story,
well we saw what sort of epic failure that was.
And without any truth and without any receipts, how can
anyone expect the world and civilization as a whole to
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believe this man. I don't care that he's a prince.
I don't give a damn who he is. The exchange
appears to at least partly verify claims that socialite. See,
they screwed up here. They did a good job at
first with calling him a pedophile. Now they call her
a socialite, So I guess I have to correct that. Huh, socialite? Well,
(07:41):
how about fellow child abuse, her general all around scusbag
and bipedal serpent. Keilaine Maxwell presented the Prince with the
puppet in April two thousand and one in Epstein's New
York home. Yeah, look, this is this is a matter
of record at this point. We've known about this for
(08:03):
quite some time from Virginia's statements, and now that Stephen
Wright is coming out and he's corroborating it, well, it
just makes sense that the rest of the story that
she told was true, doesn't it. How long are people
going to try and deny the facts here? How long
are loyalists going to remain loyal? It is alleged that
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Andrew used the puppet to grow Virginia Roberts, then aged seventeen,
and Johanna Schuberg, one of Epstein's former sex slaves, then
twenty one in the Mansion study. So both of these
girls went on record and said this occurred. The Joe
Exotic of the Winsor family, out of his own stank
ass mouth, told Stephen Wright about his friend in New
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York and the puppet that they use to play a
joke on him. So that's called circumstantial evidence, all right,
And when there's enough of that, well, that means you
usually bring the subject in. But Andrew has been able
to skirt and avoid justice for far too long. In fact,
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he won't even come in and give a witness statement.
In an unpublished book, Ms Roberts, who claimed she was
forced to have sex with Joe Exotica of the Winsor
family on three occasions, wrote that when Andrew cut my
breast with a doll made in his image, I only
giggled away. I mean, cheeze, Louise. Who does I mean,
(09:36):
You're the Prince of England? What are you doing? Bro?
I mean, honestly, you have all the money in the world.
You could have whatever sort of kink you on fulfilled
by paying a few bucks and getting something ordered in.
You don't need to be out here cavorting with Jeffrey
Epstein with all of these young girls. You don't know
(09:57):
how old they are, you don't know who they are,
you don't know their story. But here you are out
here groping them with a puppet that's made in your image,
and then you're gonna act like you don't even know
this girl. After the fact that we saw the pictures
we've had the corroborating stories. It is not a good look.
In fact, it makes you look guilty as hell. Miss
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Schoeper testified to the alleged incident in a twenty sixteen
legal deposition, describing how Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family
and Miss Roberts were sitting on a couch with the puppet. So, again,
this is not just Virginia who is coming out and
saying this, right. This is not just something that has
just been thrown out there. This is two people who
(10:44):
are relaying the same story, the same account, and another person,
a third person, corroborating that Prince Andrew admitted that there
is a puppet that was made in his likeness, and
so then I sat on Andrew's life, and I believe
on my own volition, and they took the puppets hands
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and put it on Virginia's breast, and so Andrew put
his on mind. She added, the Duke has always strenuously
denied having sex with Miss Roberts and any other wrongdoing.
So they're both lying, right, Both of these gals are lying.
Virginia's a liar, Johanna's a liar. Everyone is a liar.
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But you I should believe you another bipedal serpent over
these girls who have nothing to gain. What did they
have to gain when they came out against Epstein? Nothing
more scorn, more life in hiding. So I don't know
what you think these girls had to gain when they
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came out and expose this shit. But the fact of
the matter is Andrew's gonna need to do better than
some bullshit ass, weak ass attempt on Emily Maitliss's news show.
He's going to have to speak to authorities, and he's
going to have to really be forthcoming. In lieu of that.
(12:07):
Then I think that the Department of Justice should move
forward and aggressively to prosecute Andrew and bring him in
for questioning over Virginia's claims. Because if it was an
average person, a normal man, and somebody made these claims
against him, they would be in jail, they would be
answering questions, and at the very least they would have
(12:29):
to go under oath. But none of that has occurred
with Andrew. I think he's been given ample time to
do the right thing, So if he doesn't want to
do the right thing, he has to be compelled to
do so. Mister Wright, fifty five, who uses puppet characters
to teach young people about issues including sexual health, recalled
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how the Prince became animated when he told him about
his work. And you see, this is where another thing
with Andrew. He always tries to fit in right, even
though he's the Prince and people should be trying to
fit in with him. He has such a I don't
know what you would even call it, but a character
flaw where he's one of these people that has to
fit in. And he found out this guy was a puppeteer,
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and he couldn't keep his fat yap shut. He had
to act like he knew about puppets. Oh, my good
friend Jeffrey Epstein had one ha ha ha ha ha.
It was made in my likeness and for a joke,
he said. I told him I was a puppeteer and
how I just started making puppet shows and that people
really like him like them. Excuse me. Then I showed
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him a picture of one of my puppets, and he
had a clear facial reaction. The story literally exploded out
of him. He said, oh, my god, puppets spitting image.
Do you know that my friend brought my spitting image? Puppet,
and you'll never believe it. He played a trick on me.
So that right there is the Joe Exotic of the
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Wingsor family admitting himself that the puppet exists and that
Jeffrey Epstein or his friend in New York bought it
for him. What more do we need to face the
music that what these gals are saying is true, and
what these survivors are alleging is true. All the evidence
is there. You have to be one absolutely stuck in
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the mud moron to not see the forest through the
trees here. He told me he went to an apartment
in New York and saw the bloody thing sitting up
on the sofa, and that he nearly had a bloody
heart attack as he was there looking at himself. Oh yeah,
I'm sure a bloody heart attack. Huh were you sweating though?
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Did any beads of sweat drip down your stank ass
royal forehead? Mister Wright from Huddersfield said he learnt of
the allegations about the Spitting Image puppet earlier this year.
Why would she, miss Roberts make up a story about puppets?
It all just clicked, he said. Last night a spokesman
for the Duke declined to comment. Well, yeah, I agree.
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Why would she make that kind of story up about puppets?
That's she came up with that. Huh She of Virginia
sitting around racking her brain and decided, Oh, yeah, puppets,
that's a good idea. I'm gonna say, he used a
puppet to grow me. What the no, I'm sorry, it
doesn't ring true. It doesn't pass the smell test. You know,
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it sounds true, and you know it seems to be
the fact of the matter here that the puppet existed
and that you, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family,
did everything that these girls are alleging that you did.
If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
at Bobby Kapuchi at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c
(15:47):
ap you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also
find me on Twitter at Bobby underscore c ap u Cci.
All of the links that oh that this episode can
be found in the description box. What's up everyone, and
welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One of the roles
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that Prince Andrew has been able to scratch and Claw's
way to keeping has been his counselor role. Well, that
party's about to end as well as King Charles. His
brother has decided that he's going to shake things up,
and not only will Andrew lose this counselor's role, but
also his son Harry. So things are definitely on the
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change in the royal family. And this is something I
talked about previously. Once the Queen's gone as she is,
there would be big changes. The sentiment of the public
is certainly not in the favor of King Charles. He's
not a beloved figure. People remember Diana, people remember Jimmy Saville,
people remember the bags of the bin laden family cash
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And I'm just scratching the surface, but he is not
a beloved figure like the Queen was. So he's really
playing a dangerous game with each decision he makes. Previously,
they had the ability to fall back on the Queen
when something went wrong and her image, her persona, and
the love of the people that they had for her, well,
(17:13):
that would help carry the day. Now they don't have
that to rely on anymore, so they're gonna have to
navigate the minefield in a much more let us say,
careful manner than they have previously. And I honestly don't
know if they're up for the task. For so long,
all of them have had the Queen picking up after them,
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and they all knew that they had the Queen's great
resources to dive into if shit went south like it
did for Prince Andrew. Do you really think that Prince
Andrew would have been able to navigate all of this
if his mother wasn't as beloved as she was, Say,
she wasn't around, and all of this happened under King Charles,
how different do you think it would have been? My
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guess is a whole lot different, folks. And now that
the Queen is gone, Charles realizes that the party is
over and it's time to pare down the monarchy, and
it's time to show the people that he's taking his
job seriously. So today we're going to talk about how
Prince Andrew has his role as a counselor snatched from
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him and really he has nothing left. Oh, Sherry's the
Duke of York, but the people of York don't even
want him. So go and walk the Corgis, go and
ride your horse, and go and watch Love Island because
the rest of the world wants nothing to do with you.
Today's article is from the BBC headline Prince Andrew and
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Prince Harry royal councilor roles are challenged. This article was
authored by Sean Coughlin and it was published by the BBC.
Prince Andrew and Prince Harry's roles in being allowed to
stand in for the for King Charles for official duties
has been challenged in the House of Lords. They remain
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two of the five counselors of State who can carry
out important constitutional duties if the monarch is unwell or overseas,
and the talk is that this is a done deal
that Andrew will lose this role and so will Harry.
Now the whole Harry situation, Look, I've said it from
Jump Street. I'm not interested in his life or Megan Markles.
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I really don't care. That's a diversion for me. But
as far as him losing his counselor role, if it's
just because he married Megan Markele and moved to America,
is that really the right way to go about it
for this kid? Give him the Prince Andrew treatment. Again,
I don't know the monarchy as well as a lot
of you out there, who follow it. So I'm just
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talking about it from Layman's terms, basically right my seat
here in the Peanut Gallery, and from where I'm sitting,
it certainly doesn't look to me that Harry did anything
that comes close to what Andrew did. Viscount Stansgate questioned
their status when one had left public life and the
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other had left the country. It was time for a
sensible amendment to end this arrangement, he said. And look again,
I'm not too hip to all of the English laws
and customs and what goes on in the House of Commons.
I'd be a liar if I sat here and told
you that I am an expert in how that works.
But I can understand why these elected officials here would
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be pretty adamant to have Prince Andrew, especially removed from
this role. God forbid. Imagine something did happen and we
turn on our TVs and this dumbass is there smiling
at us. The Joe exotic of the Windsor family might
as well have Liz Trust standing next to him to
complete the embarrassment. Lord Addington, a liberal Democrat, suggested that
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working royals, somebody who actually undertakes royal duties should be
given priority for these roles. Yes, if you're going to
have a royal in these roles, it should be somebody
who's considered a quote un quote working royal. No, I
don't understand you just have anyone stand in here. The
guy's not even part of the royal family, So what's
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the big deal if he keeps the title or not.
In response to questions from peers, the Lord Privy Seal
Lord True said he would not comment on specific circumstances
and the Royal household would need to be would need
to be consulted about any change. First of all, the
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fact that you guys still have a Lord of the
Privy Seal over there is kind of cool, right. Reminds
me of a Game of Thrones or House of the Dragon.
Can I come sit in on the King's Small Council please?
But all kidding aside, You would think that people would
be pushing for this right, not saying, oh, well, we're
gonna punt it to the royals and to the Royal
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house so they can make the decision. Now. I think
Charles is going to make the right decision here because
he understands the optics and what he's up against. But
as far as him being a good man and this
being a decision that he's going into and he's happy about,
I don't know about all that. Honestly, I'm not a
huge fan of the royals in general, and Charles and
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his relationship with Jimmy Saville really grosses me out. Then
you talk about Lord mount Batten, who was his mentor,
and what he's charged with or accused of, and starts
to build a profile that is pretty disgusting. But Lord
True told the House of Lords the government will always
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consider what arrangements are needed to ensure resilience in our
constitutional arrangements, and in the past we have seen that
the point of extension has proved a useful opportunity to
consider the arrangements in place. Well, I would think that
they try and push for that no matter what. But again,
I don't think they're gonna have to push too hard.
I think that Prince King Charles is going to do
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this pretty much on his own, and if the House
of Lords and the House of Commons are willing to
back the decision, so much the better. Because I don't
know who wants to come out in public here and
stand up for Andrew now I can understand Harry, like
I said, you know, I don't know why there's so
much craziness around the dude for just wanting to leave.
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But Andrew, there shouldn't even be a conversation here. This
dude should be stripped of every single title he has,
including the Duke of York title, and he should be
left to sit around in the living room eating Cheetos
and watching shitty daytime television for the rest of his life.
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Under the Regency Act, the counselors of State are the
spouse of the monarch and the next foreign line of
succession over the age of twenty one. At present, these
are Camilla, the Queen Consort, Prince William, the Prince of Wales,
Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, Prince Andrew, Duke of York,
and his daughter, Princess Beatrice. So, right off the bat,
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do we really want Princess Beatrice? No offense to her.
I don't have any beef with her, but really she's
somebody that should be standing in for the king here.
Has she ever been to any of these meetings sat in?
So that's a little weird. Prince Andrew, come on, man, really,
you might as well, go and dig up Jimmy Saville
and have him come and be Prince Andrew's counselor Harry Again,
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I don't really get the whole pomp and circumstance. If
the kid's capable to stand in as a counselor, he
is of the royal blood right. Just because he lives
somewhere else doesn't mean he's not of the royal blood anymore.
So I don't see the big issue there. But like
I said, I get it. I'm not a royalist or
a historian of the monarchy, so I don't know all
of the ins and outs. I'm just telling you from
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somebody as an observer. There's no way in hell, under
any circumstances, even if the whole family, God forbid, was
to get the Black plague, Prince Andrew should never be
near that crown, never be near the throne. Ever, they
can carry out official duties such as signing documents, receiving
ambassadors or attending Privy Council meetings if the monarch is
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if the monarch is temporarily ill or abroad, what I
think we need over here in the UK is a
hand of the king. Right, got to get yourself a
hand of the king, the king eats and the hand
takes the shit. That's how the saying goes. Labor Peer
Viscount Stansgate, who is Stephen Benn, the eldest son of
Labor politician Tony Benn, said this showed the value of
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updating the Regency Act to ensure royals were available to
stand in. It's the only reason why it was possible
to open the current session of this Parliament, he told peers,
and he called on government to approach the King over
changes to the current arrangements. Now that Prince Harry was
living in the United States and Prince Andrew no longer
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carried out royal duties, changes to the legislation would be
the responsibility of the Cabinet Office. N spokeswoman referred back
to the comments of the Lord Privy Seal. Represent Representatives
of Prince Harry and Prince Andrew declined to comment. Well,
look either way, Prince Andrew certainly doesn't deserve to have
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his name anywhere near any of this stuff, so he
should be launched into orbit. He shouldn't be a counselor.
And I'm sure there are plenty of other people who
are capable of doing that job in the royal family.
So let's get to it. Prince Charles, stop by me, now,
King Charles, quit counting your bin laden cash for a minute,
and let's take some action here. All right, folks, it's
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going to do it for this episode. If you'd like
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi
at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo bb Y c ap
you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
me on Twitter at Bobby Underscore c ap Ucci. The
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link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
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