December 3, 2025 • 40 mins
The push for transparency in the Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell saga has been a long, exhausting battle that has stretched across years of legal maneuvering, sealed records, and aggressive attempts to keep critical information hidden from the public. Survivors, journalists, and advocates have been fighting since well before Epstein’s 2019 arrest to pry open documents and depositions that were locked behind layers of protection built by the wealthy and powerful. Even after Epstein’s death, the release of records has been a slow, grinding process involving repeated court filings, appeals, and interventions by media organizations demanding access. Each victory has required enormous pressure, and every release has underscored just how determined institutions were to keep the truth buried.
Instead of an immediate and full accounting, the information has arrived in tiny, frustrating increments — a few documents at a time, heavily redacted, and often released late at night or around holidays when public attention is low. The unsealing of court records, the limited release of flight logs, the deposition transcripts, and the gradual exposure of names tied to Epstein and Maxwell have all come in drips, not in the flood that victims and the public deserve. This piecemeal release has fueled suspicion that transparency is being carefully managed to protect powerful individuals rather than to reveal the full scale of the operation. After years of trickle-down disclosures, the public is still waiting for the complete truth — and the slow pace of unsealing only reinforces the perception that those who enabled Epstein expect to outlast the outrage rather than answer for their roles.
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Instead of an immediate and full accounting, the information has arrived in tiny, frustrating increments — a few documents at a time, heavily redacted, and often released late at night or around holidays when public attention is low. The unsealing of court records, the limited release of flight logs, the deposition transcripts, and the gradual exposure of names tied to Epstein and Maxwell have all come in drips, not in the flood that victims and the public deserve. This piecemeal release has fueled suspicion that transparency is being carefully managed to protect powerful individuals rather than to reveal the full scale of the operation. After years of trickle-down disclosures, the public is still waiting for the complete truth — and the slow pace of unsealing only reinforces the perception that those who enabled Epstein expect to outlast the outrage rather than answer for their roles.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.
Judge Presca has made a ruling on the sealed documents
that were still before her, and she has ruled overwhelmingly
in the favor of transparency, and all of these other
judges out there should take a look at how Judge
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Presca has handled the way she's released these documents, and
they should think about doing things the same exact way,
because sometimes the public interest outweighs the privacy of scumbags
who are caught up in situations like this. So I
don't really care about the privacy of Jeffrey Epstein's buddies. Okay,
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I don't care. Why are you hanging out with him
in the first place, Why are you going to his house,
Why you're breaking bread with him? Why are you doing
anything with a convicted sex offender? So I don't care
if you get blown up in legal documents, and Judge
Presca well doesn't look like she cares either. So let's
get to this article from the Daily Mail and let's
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get caught up. Headline dozens of court documents relating to
eight of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's associates, including billionaire hotel Magnate
and female britt will be unsealed after judge rules public
interests outweigh's right to privacy. Now, I'm hoping that, like
I said a second ago, the rest of the judges
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following this case are paying attention because this is the
way you do this. As a judge. You should always
put the right of the public to know what's going
on above nonsensical requests by people who might be embarrassed
by their behavior. Here's an idea. You don't want to
be embarrassed, don't act like a fool. This article was
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authored by Daniel Bates. Dozens of court documents relating to
Jeffrey Epstein's associates, including a billionaire businessman, will be made
public after a judge ruled the public interest outweighs the
right to privacy. Judge Loretta Preska on Friday ruled that
the material concerning eight people should be unsealed, despite one
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subject claiming it could wrongfully harm his privacy and reputation.
Among those names that are mentioned in the documents are
Emmy Taylor, Glene Maxwell's former personal assistant, who was accused
of taking part in the sexual abuse of minors. Now
We've talked about Emmy here on the podcast before. You
can go into the catalog and find episodes and get
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caught up. Judge Presca overrode objections from Tom Pritzker, the
billionaire executive chairman of the Hyatt Hotels, and ordered material
related to him to be made public. Now you might
recognize the name Pritzker because his brother JB. Pritzker is
the governor of Illinois. AH another Jeffrey Epstein associate who
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has tied to politicians or people at the very top
of the food chain. Come on, you, conspiracy theorists, take
off that Foyle had. The documents are part of a
defamation case brought against Maxwell by accuser Virginia Roberts in
twenty and sixteen that was later settled. The troph of
material has been released on a rolling basis after with
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the first set coming in twenty nineteen, two days before
Epstein killed himself, after numerous requests from media organizations. So
this has been an ongoing theme with Judge Presca, and
this is how she has done it. And we knew
from the beginning it was going to take time. There
was objections, there were people trying to get their names
taken out of it, like JB. Pritzker. But now that
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his name's in the documentation and out there, well we
might as well talk about him. Uh. And it's no
wonder he'd be trying tooth and nail to keep his
name from being released. Here. If you listened to what
was going on, you already knew his name, But once
it's in the court documents takes it to a different level. Right.
A total of sixteen non party doze objected to the
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release of the files being made public, and the first
set of eight have already been dealt with by the
Federal Court in New York. The latest batch related to
the remaining eight referred to as Doze twelve twenty eight,
ninety seven, one oh seven, one forty four, one forty seven,
one seventy one and one eighty three. Judge Presca said
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that much of the purportedly sensitive information had already been
made public last year during Maxwell Maxwell's trial for trafficking
underage girls to Epstein, which led to her being jailed
for twenty years. There's no doubt that most of this
stuff is well known. But what it does is that
puts a bow on things like with Pritzker, because you know,
he's been able to relatively lay low here because nobody
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really knows about him. If you don't follow the case,
obviously you have no idea who he is. But he's
certainly been somebody who's been mentioned, and obviously somebody who's
mentioned in court documents. She ran through dozens of documents
and ordered them to be unsealed. They included material related
to Taylor, who has strongly denied any wrongdoing in relation
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to her work for Maxwell. Judge Presca said that Taylor,
who is British, claimed to be the victim of serious
abuse by Jeffrey Epstein, while the court generally inclined. While
the court is generally inclined to protect the identity for
sexual abuse victims. Taylor filed the lawsuit against Miami Herald
journalist Julie Brown in July about her book on the
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Epstein scandal. Judge Presca noted that the lawsuit repeated some
of the allegedly defamatory statements made in the book, and
that Taylor has been referred to in other publicly available material.
This document will be unsealed, Judge Presca said, yo Judge
Presca is unleashed here. She's not enough, she's on an
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unsealing party. She's like, look, it's Friday. I know you
ain't got no job. I know you ain't got shit
to do, So I'm a release the documents and I'm
gonna get you high. I mean, that's basically what she's
doing here on a Friday, right, a little Friday side release.
Nobody's you know, paying attention. For the most part. That
almost slipped by me as well. Documents related to Doe
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one eighty three were to be made public, as they
have been the subject of intense media coverage and cropped
up in Maxwell's trial. However, Judge Presca put a stay
on the release of this material to November twenty eighth,
so that Doe could appeal if they wanted. Dough one
oh seven claimed that sealing their material would connect them
to the to Epstein and unnecessarily invade their privacy. Judge
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Presca disagreed and ordered their material unsealed, noting that the
public's right to access outweighed any generalized concerns about privacy
and the material was not particularly salacious. In his submission
to the court, Pritzker claimed it would wrongfully harm his
privacy and reputation if material related to him was made,
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but Judge Presca said that there was no basis for
keeping the material under seal, adding that it was just
a fleeting mention. Judge Presca did make some consensions to
the objectors, so Pritsk, even though it was just a mention,
didn't even want that out there. He's another one of
these smarmy dudes that's been highing out in the shadows
for quite some time here. In this case, she said,
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certain details contained within certain documents that are not public,
objecting those have set forth a sufficient interest to preserve sealing.
Documents related to Dough twelve remain sealed, as Judge Presca
said they were a classic outsider. Dough twelve is peripheral
to the events at issue and is neither a victim
nor associated with Epstein or Maxwell. Well, I could see
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that then, and to tell you the truth, the way
that the way Judge Presca has handled things here, I'd
be inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt
when she does keep something like this sealed. And that
doesn't come easily for me to say. You all know
how I feel about the justice system, the Bureau of
Prisons and how the courts run, especially in this case,
but Presca has been an outlier and she has done
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a very good job as far as I can tell,
at managing this case as a judge. Documents relating to
Doe twenty eight will remain sealed as they are a
victim of sexual assault who continues to experience trauma as
a result of these events. So those definitely should stay sealed.
Whenever somebody has experienced trauma or get they get caught
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up in a case like this and they're not actually
part of it and they've been victimized, they should definitely
have their name sealed and that shouldn't be public information,
are you? But material related to Doe one forty seven,
who Judge Presca identified as Epstein survivor Sarah Ransom, should
be unsealed. Judge Presca said that Ransom was a victim
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of sexual trauma and abuse by Epstein and Maxwell, but
she testified publicly at Maxwell's sentencing. She published a book
about her experience and wrote an op ed in the
Washington Post about it. So at that point, you really
can't expect any more privacy, right, And Judge Presca says that,
you know, hey, the public interest outweighs all of that.
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At this point, Judge Presca noted that Ransom had put
herself out in the public forum relating to these issues.
The judge did not set a timeline for when the
materials should be public, but it will likely be weeks away.
Unlike with previous batches of documents, Maxwell did not oppose
them and made no representation to the court, and that
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signals that Maxwell has completely given up on trying to
keep any of these sideway secrets secret anymore. Anything that
doesn't pertain to her personally. She's not going to fight
it in court. She doesn't have the money, so it
was a foregone conclusion that she wouldn't be objecting here.
What's going to happen? What is she going to end
up in prison? Among the revelations and documents already made
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public were two depositions given by Maxwell in twenty sixteen
as part of the defamation case. Over seven hours, Maxwell
was questioned about everything from her sex life to her
relationship with Andrew and Epstein. At one point, she denied
keeping a laundry basket of sex toys at Epstein's mansion
in Palm Beach, Florida. Well, we all know how that
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ended up for her. Huh. Maxwell was asked about having
three way sexual massages with Epstein and his sexual idiosynchronsies
such as nipple pinching. God. The idea of Epstein touching
any other human being is just so gross to me.
When asked if she ever provided Roberts with schoolgirl outfits
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for her to wear with a massage, Maxwell responded, I
have no idea what you're talking about. Elsewhere in the deposition,
Maxwell called Roberts an awful fantasist, and at one point
she became so angry she banged her hand on the table.
Among the other her material already unsealed was Robert's draft
of her memoir, which detailed how she had flown around
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the world by Epstein and loaned out to his powerful friends.
She detailed how she was forced to have sex with
Prince Andrew in London when she was seventeen, at Epstein's
New York mansion and his private island in the Caribbean.
Earlier this year, the Duke settled a civil lawsuit brought
by Roberts for a reported twelve million dollars. All right,
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so there you have it, folks. They tried to slip
one by us on a Friday, but I'm not having it.
I was going through different articles as I was preparing
for tomorrow, and this one popped up, and I was like,
what the wait a minute, when did Judge Presca make
these rulings? With everything else going on in the world.
I haven't really been expecting a Judge Presca drop to
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come in and get things moving on a Friday. So
there you have it. There's where we're at with these
Dos and Pritzker and Emmy Taylor, all names we've heard before.
But once you get those documents out there and people
can look at the court documents themselves, it hits a
different way. Right. It's one thing to hear about it
rumor or it's one thing to hear about it as
an allegation. Once you see it in court documentation, whole
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different ballgame because people are saying this stuff under oath
and if you're lying, well, you're gonna get hit with
the perjury charge. So very interesting. And once they are released,
obviously I'll be going through them like I have with
the other batches, and we'll see where we're at. All right, folks,
that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like
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But this article is from the Politico. The headline Judge
unseals more details in Jeffrey Epstein underage sex lawsuit authored
by Josh Gerstein, and this article was published on seven
seven of two thousand and fifteen. So remember we're jumping
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back in the Dolorean, right, We're taking a trip back
in time for this article. This isn't something that just
came out. This is to add some more context. A
federal judge in Florida has released new details about high
powered lawyers for billionaire investment manager, pedophile, child abuser, sex
offender investment manager Jeffrey Epstein, who managed to delay and
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water down victim notifications that federal prosecutor sent to more
than thirty underage girls with whom Epstein allegedly had sex.
And again, I've been very clear how I feel about
Epstein's team of lawyers from back then, And don't get
me wrong, it's not for defending their client, that's their job.
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It's for the way they went about it right. It's
for the way that they achieved their goals with a
helping hand from the prosecution. This was a stacked deck
against these survivors from the jump, from the time Jeffrey
Epstein abused them to the time they walked into the
courtroom in Palm Beach, from the grand jury only hearing
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evidence from one girl, to the prosecutors using their MySpace
profiles and social media profiles against them. All of these
people that were involved in the prosecution in Florida in
an official capacity must be investigated. Attorneys for Epstein fought
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for years to keep the substance of the negotiations leading
to the unusual plea deal secret from lawyers for the
alleged survivors and from the public. However, a federal appeals
court ruled last year that the discussions were not legally privileged.
And we've seen this a lot in the Jeffrey Epstein case.
It's takes some time years in some cases, but a
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lot of this stuff is starting to come out and
come into light. A lot of it is starting to
be unsealed, and it looks like it's happening in like
five year intervals, right, But as we have seen in
Judge Presca's courtroom, she plans on getting this stuff released
as fast as possible with going through the protocols that
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she has put in place. But back in twenty fifteen, remember,
there wasn't all this hubbub around Jeffrey Epstein. People weren't
really focused on what was going on, so a lot
of this stuff went under the radar. Of course, there
were some outlets that were covering it, and it is news,
so there was, you know, some coverage of it, but
there certainly wasn't a microscope on the situation like there
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is now. So when we go back and we look
at this in hindsight like we're doing tonight, and we
get to see what was actually occurring back then and
how it relates to the story now, it's pretty interesting
to see how the pieces start to fit together. Newly
disclosed excerpts of emails and letters exchanged by prosecutors in
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Epstein's defense and posted here. There's a hyperlink in the article.
You can obviously go and check that out and read
these emails and see for yourself. What was said appear
to indicate that federal authorities and Epstein's lawyers work to
limit information judges might receive about aspects of the deal,
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which involved Epstein pleading guilty to a state charge in
exchange for a guarantee not to prosecute him in federal court.
So again it goes to what I was talking about,
what we've been talking about, what we all have known.
Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers were able to finagel things to such
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an extent that they kept the information that the judges
received to a limited capacity. Epstein and his lawyers were
able to finesse this situation, and they were able to
get a plea deal that I've I mean, I haven't
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been able to find another plea deal like this known
and unknown co conspirators. Are you kidding me? Right now? Andy,
who wasn't further identified in the filing, recommended that some
of the time issues be addressed only in the state
agreement so that it isn't obvious to the judge that
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we are trying to create federal jurisdiction for prison for
prison purposes. Assistant US Attorney Marie Villafauna wrote to Epstein
lawyer Jy Lefkowitz in a September nineteenth, two thousand and
seven email, So, why is Marie Villa Fauna writing to
Epstein's lawyer Jay Lefkowitz about standard language regarding resolving all
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criminal liability and mentioned co conspirators, But she'd prefer not
to highlight other crimes and she wants to make sure
that the time issues are addressed. And it's only a
state agreement. And why is she even conducting these sorts
of conversations with the people she's supposed to be prosecuting.
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What is she part of the defense team. I will
include our standard language regarding resolving all criminal liability, and
I will mention co conspirators, but I would prefer not
the highlight for the judge all of the other crimes
and all of the other persons that we could charge.
Maybe we could set a time to meet, if you
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want to meet off campus somewhere, that is fine. I
will make sure that I have all of the necessary
decision makers present or on call as well. Now let
me ask you folks a question. Okay, you think you'd
get this treatment? You think that you or your family
or your loved ones would have Marie Villa Fauna on
the phone with your lawyer, talking about let's meet off
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campus and figure out away how we could finesse this
by the judge without naming other co conspirators and other
people we could have charged. Why didn't you charge them,
Marie Villa Fauna. I really hope that this public Corruptions
unit kicks in Marie Villa Fauna's door while she's sleeping
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in the middle of the night and arrests her. That's
what I hope. Another email a few days later discusses
the large number of individuals the FBI considered victims and
continuing uncertainty about whether some of the young women were
under the age of consent. I wanted to tell you
that I have piled a list of thirty four confirmed
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miners Villa Fauna, the prosecutor wrote to Lefkowitz Epstein's lawyer.
So why is she telling him that she has a
list of thirty four confirmed miners. Why she's showing her hand,
Why is she telling the defense about any sort of
information they may have. What are they doing behind the scenes,
what sort of deal are they working on? And why
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there are six others whose names we already have who
need to be interviewed by the FBI to confirm whether
they were seventeen or eighteen at the time of their
activity with mister Epstein. And again, I don't really care
if they were eighteen, all right, If they were coerced
into this and they were trafficked in this, in this
trafficking ring and passed around to other people and all
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of this shit occurred, I don't care if they're eighteen.
They're human beings. That shouldn't even matter, all right. Of course,
crimes against miners are always the bottom of the barrel,
lowest of the low. But what are we just going
to ignore if somebody was eighteen or above, if they
were trafficked by this guy. All these claims that are
made need to be looked at. All of them need
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to be investigated. That is what I have always called
for here on this podcast. Equal justice under the law,
equal for us, equal for them, everybody gets their day
in court. In a December two thousand and seven letter,
the prosecutor acknowledges some notifications of alleged victims, but says
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they were sent after the US Attorney's office signed the
plea deal and halted for most of the women at
the request of Epstein's lawyers. Must be nice, Must be nice.
So they sign this draconian ass plea deal agreement, right,
they get this non prosecution agreement on paper. After it's
on paper, they get notifications from more victims. They've already
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signed the pleil the plea deal, I mean, and they
get them halted for Epstein's lawyers. Do you think anybody
else is getting that sort of treatment? You think El
Chappo's lawyers got that treatment. I mean, El Choppo's people
got that treatment. How about John Gottie, how about gas
Pipe Casso? Why would Jeffrey Epstein and Gilain Maxwell get
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such preferential treatment. Now, that's a rhetorical question, by the way, folks.
Three victims were notified shortly after the signing of the
non prosecution agreement. Of the general terms of that agreement,
Villafana wrote again to Lefkowitz, you raised objections to any
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victim notifications, and no further notifications were done. She's admitting
right here in this article that they broke the Victim's
Crimes Act. They didn't follow through with on their end
of the bargain of letting the survivors know what they
were up to. They had to let every single one know,
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and they didn't do that. And instead, since Leftkowitz and
Epstein's lawyers raised objections, they decided not to go further
with any more notifications, all because they were asked by
Epstein and his team of scummy ass smarmy involved lawyers.
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After Epstein pleaded guilty in June two thousand and eight
to two state felony charges relating to prostitution, two women
who claim to have been victims of the money mogul
filed suit against the federal government, claiming that prosecutors violated
the Crime Rights Act by failing to consult with them
about the plea deal, failing to disclose its terms, and
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failing to keep victims informed about important developments in the case.
The suit asks that the non pro prosecution deal be rescinded.
And now, remember this is the deal. This is what
we've been talking about that's in this the Eleventh Circuit
Court of Appeals. This is what they're looking at right now.
And again, I think that there is a lot of
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trouble on the horizon for the prosecutor's office and those
who were involved in getting Jeffrey Epstein. This deal. I mean,
just from the emails alone, folks, it's damning for Villa
Fauna and Krisher and the whole entire prosecutor's office in
the state of Florida, never mind the federal prosecutors that
were involved in the court filing unsealed Monday, the alleged
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survivors lawyer Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassel, contend that the
correspondence backs up their view that the prosecution in Epstein's
defense work together to frustrate the legal rights the survivors
should have been accorded. It's obvious what they were doing,
especially now when we look back and hindsight. We've had
all this time for things to settle in, We've had
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all this time for new information to appear, and we've
had all this time to put the pieces together. The
exchanges demonstrate that the survivor's allegations of a conspiracy between
the government and Epstein's attorneys to conceal the existence of
a broad non prosecution agreement are not mere speculation but
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appear to be well supported, Edwards and Cassell wrote. They
added that one email shows the parties negotiating to keep
the judge in the dark. About the full nature of
the plea arrangement, as well as keeping the survivors i e.
The girls in the dark about the plea agreement until
after Epstein's plea. It also shows the prosecutors setting up
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a meeting with the defense attorneys that would be off campus,
i e. Outside the ordinary course of business. So why
would they want to meet off campus? Why couldn't they
just meet at the prosecutor's off this Why can't they
sign and do whatever sort of deal they need to
be that needs to be done there? Why do you
have to meet somewhere else, somewhere where there's no surveillance,
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where nobody has a record of you coming and going.
It looks shady as hell. And when you add it
into what we've been dealing with with these scumbags. I
don't know about you, but I don't believe that they
were just meeting off campus for a nice cup of coffee.
Give me a break. Epstein's lawyers, who included at various
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times such heavyweights as former Independent counsel Kenneth Starr and
Harvard law professor Alan I kept my underpants on Dershowitz,
argue that the law did not require federal prosecutors to
make any notifications because the women were not victims of
any crime being charged in a federal court. Again, this
is what I talk about and why I get so
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fired up. The loopholes, the loopholes have to go. These
guys never get off because they're innocent. They get off
because there are loopholes for them to navigate. And these
same very loopholes are the ones that are put into
place and onto the books by their buddies that they're
rubbing elbows with at the golf club. See the problem
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here yet, folks, And you see why it's so crucial
that in your local elections you send people to Washington,
DC that are not scummy. Epstein was ultimately sentenced to
eighteen months in jail on the state charges. He served
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thirteen before being released. While Judge Kenneth Mara made more
information about the episode public Monday, he also dealt the
set back to the women and attorneys pursuing the victim's
right suit. Mara turned down the bulk of their request
for the US Attorney's Office's internal files and memos about
the case in his new rolling posted here. There's a
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hyperlink for you to follow the judge said most of
that material, included draft federal indictments, should remain confidential as
attorney's work work to produce excuse me, work product, or
secret grand jury material. However, Mara said the alleged survivors
were entitled to a few documents that appeared to have
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been shared with Epstein's defense team or were largely factual
in nature. Now, remember this stuff has all been sent
to the Eleventh Circuit Court, So the Eleventh Circuit will
take a look at all of it. They'll figure out,
you know, you know, what's gonna what's going to occur,
what's going to be released, if anything's going to be released,
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if this plea agreement is going to be tossed. So
that's definitely a big one. That's one we definitely have
to keep our eyes on, and we have to keep
digging into that and make sure we don't get backtracked there,
because it's very important going forward in this case. A
spokeswoman for the US Attorney's Office in Southern Florida declined
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to comment on the ruling and the newly unsealed plea details.
Federal prosecutors have previously said they agreed to the deal
to spare survivors the need to testify and to ease
their ability to get financial compensation from Epstein. You know,
they might want to, They might want they might wanted to,
you know, run that by. The survivors might want to
ask the girls if it was okay with them, because
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you know, according to the law, that's what they had
to do. And honestly, it's just the morally correct thing
to do. If I was prosecuting a case like this,
there's zero chance I wouldn't be in contact with the
people who were abused by this man, to be on
the same wavelength with their lawyers. And if I think
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that I could get a prosecution and go for the
gusto and put this son of a bitch away for
the rest of his life, you better damn well believe
that is where I'd be going, not this little shitty ass.
Eighteen month thirteen months served state sentence. What a bunch
of gobbage. A lawyer for Epstein, Roy Black, did not
respond to a message seeking comment. Epstein's prosecution and illegal morass,
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in which he is still ameshed have attracted unusual notoriety
because of his wealth as well of his as well
as his ties to well known politicians, professors, and celebrities.
Earlier this year, a woman seeking to join the victim's
rights suit and identified as Jane Doe three we know
who that is now alleged in court papers that she
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was kept as a sex slave by Epstein and forced
to have sex with prominent men, including Dershowitz and Britain's
Prince Andrew. Both men flatly denied the allegations. In April,
marastruck the a lurried claims from the court record and
denied Jane Doe's number Jane Doe Number Three's requests to
join the lawsuit. Republicans and conservatives have also taken a
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keen interest in President Bill Clinton's connections to Epstein, hoping
to make trouble for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. Press reports have noted that Bill Clinton,
as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, used
Epstein's private seven twenty seven to travel to Africa in
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two thousand and two for a Clinton Foundation tour of
age fighting and developmental work. Flight lobs filed in connection
with another lawsuit show at least ten journeys by Clinton
on Epstein's planes and now, remember Clinton said he was
only on the plane four times. I've only been on
it four times. But what are you talking about? Blah
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blah blah, And even all the way back here in
twenty fifteen in Politico, they're talking about at least ten journeys,
and the author is not wrong here. There has always
been a political edge to this, both sides trying to
use it as a hatchet job to try and score
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polytical points for their side, when in reality, as I've
been saying for quite some time now, there are no
sides to this, folks. All we have here are a
bunch of scumbag elites who don't care about any of us,
never mind these girls and other girls who are exposed
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to their nonsense. I'd like to know what he was
doing with Jeffrey Epstein, How many trips did he take,
where he was going, What did he do when he
was with this guy? Republican National Committee chairman Rights Prebus
told Bloomberg in March, when you hang out with a
guy who has a reputation like Jeffrey Epstein multiple times
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on private jets, on weekends, on trips, on places at
least where it's been reported not very good things happen.
It would be good to know what our former president
was doing, especially because it appears he's going to be
part of a campaign ticket on the other side of
the eye. And while I think Rant's previous is an
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absolute moron, a water carrying neocon, even a broken clock
is right two times a day. The American people have
the right to know what Bill Clinton was doing with
Jeffrey Epstein. We have plenty of circumstantial evidence, folks, plenty
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of it. Last month, conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch filed
a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit demanding all Secret Service
records pertaining to the costs of any trips Bill Clinton
made to Epstein's private island in the Caribbean. This is
what I'm talking about. Do you really think Judicial Watch
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gives a damn about the survivors, cares about any of
those girls, or do they want to use this as
a political weapon to bash the Democrats over the head with.
It's very apparent and very obvious to anyone who's not
eating at the buffet of confirmation bias. What's going on here?
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Spokespeople for Hillary Clinton's campaign, the Clinton Foundation, and Bill
Clinton did not respond to a request for comment. A
lot smarter than Prince Andrew. Prince Andrews should have taken
a page out of Bill Clinton's book when it comes
to Jeffrey Epstein, keep your yap shut, because all of
these guys that were hanging out with him are in
serious peril. At least one presidential hopeful who has since
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jumped in the ring on the Republican side, was friendly
with Epstein, Donald Trump. I've known jeff for fifteen years.
Terrific guy, Trump told New York Magazine back in two
thousand and two. He has a lot of fun to
be with. It is even said. He likes beautiful women
as much as I do, and many of them are
on the younger side, No doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys
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his social lif Yeah, that's not the comment of a creeper.
That's not the comment of another uh uh, degenerate. Look,
nobody should be under any any delusions that Donald Trump
is a moral person. He is not. Okay, Donald Trump
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is not a moral person. He's not the hero of
this story like some on the writer trying to make
him out to be. He is another enabler. Another person
who was close to Jeffrey Epstein, and another person who
helped Jeffrey Epstein's reputation and helped him get in to
that part of society. These are just the facts, folks.
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I know it's uncomfortable, uncomfortable for people who are still
carrying water for one side or the other, but we
have to get past that shit. Look what it's doing
to our nation. Just today I saw two friends, two
people that have been friends since childhood, going at it
over stupid ass, dumb ass, nonsensical, divisive politics. And I
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will not be part of that shit. And I just
won't do it. I'm not doing it. For the past year,
I've been seeing how things have turned and found I've
found it's disturbing to me. It's very disturbing that we
can no longer have proper conversations. The whole point of
politics of Detonte is to talk with people you don't
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agree with. And if we've gotten to a point where
that's not going to happen, then I don't even know
what to say. We're honestly, we're finished as a society
if that's the case, and we're looking out of a
lot of pain coming down the pipe. I know, for
my part, I am I've taken a very clinical approach
to this whole entire thing for the past year and
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been very very neutral about what has been going on
politically as I've been immersed in this Jeffrey Epstein case.
But what I will say is the deceiveness has to stop.
A Trump associate said Tuesday that Trump wasn't aware of
any wrongdoing, that he and Epstein were not particularly close,
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and he was a member of Trump's clubs where he
would visit with women and business associates, but there was
no formal relationship, the source close to Trump said. And again, Trump,
just like the rest of them, Just like with Bill Clinton,
it's bullshit, dude, just own it own that you guys
were homies. Come forward and talk about what you know. Now.
I will say that Trump had spoke to Bradley Edwards
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back in the in the day when Bradley Edwards was
conducting his investigation. But you know, Okay, that's great, that's good.
It's a good step, no doubt about it. But wishing
Glenn Maxwell well, and you know, it's just been one
misstep after the other when it comes to Epstein with Trump.
So I don't know how anyone on the right can
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try and use Jeffrey Epstein as a cudgel to beat
people on the left and send people on the left
don't think God'd forgotten about you, because guess what, you
most certainly can't use this as a weapon against Donald
Trump and his people either, because guess what, folks, there's
enough scum baggery on both sides to go around. And
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the sooner we accept that the sooner will be to
getting to a point where we all understand that these
people who have chosen to become career politicians are the
real problem behind the scenes. They're the ones that write
these laws. They're the ones that wrote all of these
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laws with all of these loopholes that dershowitzen company used
to get Jeffrey Epstein off. These people that we elect,
these are the people that are taking money hand over
fist from people just like Jeffrey Epstein. And you don't
think that they're getting anything in return. People like Epstein
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are just ponying up dough what these politicians for their health,
of course not, we know it's symbiotic. We have to
make sure that the people that who are writing these
laws understand that the people, the populace, the citizens, are
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no longer going to accept the brazen display of this
two tier justice system that we have seen used countless
times against people who do not have means by people
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who are so called elite. It has to stop, one
justice system for everybody. That needs to be the goal,
and the only way we're ever going to get there
is if we have politicians that understand that the people
will not accept their bullshit any longer, and that goes
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What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein chronicles.
Judge Presca has made a ruling on the sealed documents
that were still before her, and she has ruled overwhelmingly
in the favor of transparency, and all of these other
judges out there should take a look at how Judge
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Presca has handled the way she's released these documents, and
they should think about doing things the same exact way,
because sometimes the public interest outweighs the privacy of scumbags
who are caught up in situations like this. So I
don't really care about the privacy of Jeffrey Epstein's buddies. Okay,
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I don't care. Why are you hanging out with him
in the first place, Why are you going to his house,
Why you're breaking bread with him? Why are you doing
anything with a convicted sex offender? So I don't care
if you get blown up in legal documents, and Judge
Presca well doesn't look like she cares either. So let's
get to this article from the Daily Mail and let's
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get caught up. Headline dozens of court documents relating to
eight of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's associates, including billionaire hotel Magnate
and female britt will be unsealed after judge rules public
interests outweigh's right to privacy. Now, I'm hoping that, like
I said a second ago, the rest of the judges
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following this case are paying attention because this is the
way you do this. As a judge. You should always
put the right of the public to know what's going
on above nonsensical requests by people who might be embarrassed
by their behavior. Here's an idea. You don't want to
be embarrassed, don't act like a fool. This article was
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authored by Daniel Bates. Dozens of court documents relating to
Jeffrey Epstein's associates, including a billionaire businessman, will be made
public after a judge ruled the public interest outweighs the
right to privacy. Judge Loretta Preska on Friday ruled that
the material concerning eight people should be unsealed, despite one
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subject claiming it could wrongfully harm his privacy and reputation.
Among those names that are mentioned in the documents are
Emmy Taylor, Glene Maxwell's former personal assistant, who was accused
of taking part in the sexual abuse of minors. Now
We've talked about Emmy here on the podcast before. You
can go into the catalog and find episodes and get
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caught up. Judge Presca overrode objections from Tom Pritzker, the
billionaire executive chairman of the Hyatt Hotels, and ordered material
related to him to be made public. Now you might
recognize the name Pritzker because his brother JB. Pritzker is
the governor of Illinois. AH another Jeffrey Epstein associate who
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has tied to politicians or people at the very top
of the food chain. Come on, you, conspiracy theorists, take
off that Foyle had. The documents are part of a
defamation case brought against Maxwell by accuser Virginia Roberts in
twenty and sixteen that was later settled. The troph of
material has been released on a rolling basis after with
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the first set coming in twenty nineteen, two days before
Epstein killed himself, after numerous requests from media organizations. So
this has been an ongoing theme with Judge Presca, and
this is how she has done it. And we knew
from the beginning it was going to take time. There
was objections, there were people trying to get their names
taken out of it, like JB. Pritzker. But now that
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his name's in the documentation and out there, well we
might as well talk about him. Uh. And it's no
wonder he'd be trying tooth and nail to keep his
name from being released. Here. If you listened to what
was going on, you already knew his name, But once
it's in the court documents takes it to a different level. Right.
A total of sixteen non party doze objected to the
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release of the files being made public, and the first
set of eight have already been dealt with by the
Federal Court in New York. The latest batch related to
the remaining eight referred to as Doze twelve twenty eight,
ninety seven, one oh seven, one forty four, one forty seven,
one seventy one and one eighty three. Judge Presca said
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that much of the purportedly sensitive information had already been
made public last year during Maxwell Maxwell's trial for trafficking
underage girls to Epstein, which led to her being jailed
for twenty years. There's no doubt that most of this
stuff is well known. But what it does is that
puts a bow on things like with Pritzker, because you know,
he's been able to relatively lay low here because nobody
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really knows about him. If you don't follow the case,
obviously you have no idea who he is. But he's
certainly been somebody who's been mentioned, and obviously somebody who's
mentioned in court documents. She ran through dozens of documents
and ordered them to be unsealed. They included material related
to Taylor, who has strongly denied any wrongdoing in relation
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to her work for Maxwell. Judge Presca said that Taylor,
who is British, claimed to be the victim of serious
abuse by Jeffrey Epstein, while the court generally inclined. While
the court is generally inclined to protect the identity for
sexual abuse victims. Taylor filed the lawsuit against Miami Herald
journalist Julie Brown in July about her book on the
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Epstein scandal. Judge Presca noted that the lawsuit repeated some
of the allegedly defamatory statements made in the book, and
that Taylor has been referred to in other publicly available material.
This document will be unsealed, Judge Presca said, yo Judge
Presca is unleashed here. She's not enough, she's on an
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unsealing party. She's like, look, it's Friday. I know you
ain't got no job. I know you ain't got shit
to do, So I'm a release the documents and I'm
gonna get you high. I mean, that's basically what she's
doing here on a Friday, right, a little Friday side release.
Nobody's you know, paying attention. For the most part. That
almost slipped by me as well. Documents related to Doe
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one eighty three were to be made public, as they
have been the subject of intense media coverage and cropped
up in Maxwell's trial. However, Judge Presca put a stay
on the release of this material to November twenty eighth,
so that Doe could appeal if they wanted. Dough one
oh seven claimed that sealing their material would connect them
to the to Epstein and unnecessarily invade their privacy. Judge
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Presca disagreed and ordered their material unsealed, noting that the
public's right to access outweighed any generalized concerns about privacy
and the material was not particularly salacious. In his submission
to the court, Pritzker claimed it would wrongfully harm his
privacy and reputation if material related to him was made,
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but Judge Presca said that there was no basis for
keeping the material under seal, adding that it was just
a fleeting mention. Judge Presca did make some consensions to
the objectors, so Pritsk, even though it was just a mention,
didn't even want that out there. He's another one of
these smarmy dudes that's been highing out in the shadows
for quite some time here. In this case, she said,
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certain details contained within certain documents that are not public,
objecting those have set forth a sufficient interest to preserve sealing.
Documents related to Dough twelve remain sealed, as Judge Presca
said they were a classic outsider. Dough twelve is peripheral
to the events at issue and is neither a victim
nor associated with Epstein or Maxwell. Well, I could see
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that then, and to tell you the truth, the way
that the way Judge Presca has handled things here, I'd
be inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt
when she does keep something like this sealed. And that
doesn't come easily for me to say. You all know
how I feel about the justice system, the Bureau of
Prisons and how the courts run, especially in this case,
but Presca has been an outlier and she has done
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a very good job as far as I can tell,
at managing this case as a judge. Documents relating to
Doe twenty eight will remain sealed as they are a
victim of sexual assault who continues to experience trauma as
a result of these events. So those definitely should stay sealed.
Whenever somebody has experienced trauma or get they get caught
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up in a case like this and they're not actually
part of it and they've been victimized, they should definitely
have their name sealed and that shouldn't be public information,
are you? But material related to Doe one forty seven,
who Judge Presca identified as Epstein survivor Sarah Ransom, should
be unsealed. Judge Presca said that Ransom was a victim
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of sexual trauma and abuse by Epstein and Maxwell, but
she testified publicly at Maxwell's sentencing. She published a book
about her experience and wrote an op ed in the
Washington Post about it. So at that point, you really
can't expect any more privacy, right, And Judge Presca says that,
you know, hey, the public interest outweighs all of that.
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At this point, Judge Presca noted that Ransom had put
herself out in the public forum relating to these issues.
The judge did not set a timeline for when the
materials should be public, but it will likely be weeks away.
Unlike with previous batches of documents, Maxwell did not oppose
them and made no representation to the court, and that
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signals that Maxwell has completely given up on trying to
keep any of these sideway secrets secret anymore. Anything that
doesn't pertain to her personally. She's not going to fight
it in court. She doesn't have the money, so it
was a foregone conclusion that she wouldn't be objecting here.
What's going to happen? What is she going to end
up in prison? Among the revelations and documents already made
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public were two depositions given by Maxwell in twenty sixteen
as part of the defamation case. Over seven hours, Maxwell
was questioned about everything from her sex life to her
relationship with Andrew and Epstein. At one point, she denied
keeping a laundry basket of sex toys at Epstein's mansion
in Palm Beach, Florida. Well, we all know how that
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ended up for her. Huh. Maxwell was asked about having
three way sexual massages with Epstein and his sexual idiosynchronsies
such as nipple pinching. God. The idea of Epstein touching
any other human being is just so gross to me.
When asked if she ever provided Roberts with schoolgirl outfits
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for her to wear with a massage, Maxwell responded, I
have no idea what you're talking about. Elsewhere in the deposition,
Maxwell called Roberts an awful fantasist, and at one point
she became so angry she banged her hand on the table.
Among the other her material already unsealed was Robert's draft
of her memoir, which detailed how she had flown around
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the world by Epstein and loaned out to his powerful friends.
She detailed how she was forced to have sex with
Prince Andrew in London when she was seventeen, at Epstein's
New York mansion and his private island in the Caribbean.
Earlier this year, the Duke settled a civil lawsuit brought
by Roberts for a reported twelve million dollars. All right,
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so there you have it, folks. They tried to slip
one by us on a Friday, but I'm not having it.
I was going through different articles as I was preparing
for tomorrow, and this one popped up, and I was like,
what the wait a minute, when did Judge Presca make
these rulings? With everything else going on in the world.
I haven't really been expecting a Judge Presca drop to
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come in and get things moving on a Friday. So
there you have it. There's where we're at with these
Dos and Pritzker and Emmy Taylor, all names we've heard before.
But once you get those documents out there and people
can look at the court documents themselves, it hits a
different way. Right. It's one thing to hear about it
rumor or it's one thing to hear about it as
an allegation. Once you see it in court documentation, whole
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different ballgame because people are saying this stuff under oath
and if you're lying, well, you're gonna get hit with
the perjury charge. So very interesting. And once they are released,
obviously I'll be going through them like I have with
the other batches, and we'll see where we're at. All right, folks,
that's gonna do it for this one. If you'd like
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But this article is from the Politico. The headline Judge
unseals more details in Jeffrey Epstein underage sex lawsuit authored
by Josh Gerstein, and this article was published on seven
seven of two thousand and fifteen. So remember we're jumping
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back in the Dolorean, right, We're taking a trip back
in time for this article. This isn't something that just
came out. This is to add some more context. A
federal judge in Florida has released new details about high
powered lawyers for billionaire investment manager, pedophile, child abuser, sex
offender investment manager Jeffrey Epstein, who managed to delay and
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water down victim notifications that federal prosecutor sent to more
than thirty underage girls with whom Epstein allegedly had sex.
And again, I've been very clear how I feel about
Epstein's team of lawyers from back then, And don't get
me wrong, it's not for defending their client, that's their job.
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It's for the way they went about it right. It's
for the way that they achieved their goals with a
helping hand from the prosecution. This was a stacked deck
against these survivors from the jump, from the time Jeffrey
Epstein abused them to the time they walked into the
courtroom in Palm Beach, from the grand jury only hearing
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evidence from one girl, to the prosecutors using their MySpace
profiles and social media profiles against them. All of these
people that were involved in the prosecution in Florida in
an official capacity must be investigated. Attorneys for Epstein fought
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for years to keep the substance of the negotiations leading
to the unusual plea deal secret from lawyers for the
alleged survivors and from the public. However, a federal appeals
court ruled last year that the discussions were not legally privileged.
And we've seen this a lot in the Jeffrey Epstein case.
It's takes some time years in some cases, but a
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lot of this stuff is starting to come out and
come into light. A lot of it is starting to
be unsealed, and it looks like it's happening in like
five year intervals, right, But as we have seen in
Judge Presca's courtroom, she plans on getting this stuff released
as fast as possible with going through the protocols that
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she has put in place. But back in twenty fifteen, remember,
there wasn't all this hubbub around Jeffrey Epstein. People weren't
really focused on what was going on, so a lot
of this stuff went under the radar. Of course, there
were some outlets that were covering it, and it is news,
so there was, you know, some coverage of it, but
there certainly wasn't a microscope on the situation like there
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is now. So when we go back and we look
at this in hindsight like we're doing tonight, and we
get to see what was actually occurring back then and
how it relates to the story now, it's pretty interesting
to see how the pieces start to fit together. Newly
disclosed excerpts of emails and letters exchanged by prosecutors in
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Epstein's defense and posted here. There's a hyperlink in the article.
You can obviously go and check that out and read
these emails and see for yourself. What was said appear
to indicate that federal authorities and Epstein's lawyers work to
limit information judges might receive about aspects of the deal,
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which involved Epstein pleading guilty to a state charge in
exchange for a guarantee not to prosecute him in federal court.
So again it goes to what I was talking about,
what we've been talking about, what we all have known.
Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers were able to finagel things to such
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an extent that they kept the information that the judges
received to a limited capacity. Epstein and his lawyers were
able to finesse this situation, and they were able to
get a plea deal that I've I mean, I haven't
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been able to find another plea deal like this known
and unknown co conspirators. Are you kidding me? Right now? Andy,
who wasn't further identified in the filing, recommended that some
of the time issues be addressed only in the state
agreement so that it isn't obvious to the judge that
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we are trying to create federal jurisdiction for prison for
prison purposes. Assistant US Attorney Marie Villafauna wrote to Epstein
lawyer Jy Lefkowitz in a September nineteenth, two thousand and
seven email, So, why is Marie Villa Fauna writing to
Epstein's lawyer Jay Lefkowitz about standard language regarding resolving all
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criminal liability and mentioned co conspirators, But she'd prefer not
to highlight other crimes and she wants to make sure
that the time issues are addressed. And it's only a
state agreement. And why is she even conducting these sorts
of conversations with the people she's supposed to be prosecuting.
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What is she part of the defense team. I will
include our standard language regarding resolving all criminal liability, and
I will mention co conspirators, but I would prefer not
the highlight for the judge all of the other crimes
and all of the other persons that we could charge.
Maybe we could set a time to meet, if you
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want to meet off campus somewhere, that is fine. I
will make sure that I have all of the necessary
decision makers present or on call as well. Now let
me ask you folks a question. Okay, you think you'd
get this treatment? You think that you or your family
or your loved ones would have Marie Villa Fauna on
the phone with your lawyer, talking about let's meet off
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campus and figure out away how we could finesse this
by the judge without naming other co conspirators and other
people we could have charged. Why didn't you charge them,
Marie Villa Fauna. I really hope that this public Corruptions
unit kicks in Marie Villa Fauna's door while she's sleeping
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in the middle of the night and arrests her. That's
what I hope. Another email a few days later discusses
the large number of individuals the FBI considered victims and
continuing uncertainty about whether some of the young women were
under the age of consent. I wanted to tell you
that I have piled a list of thirty four confirmed
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miners Villa Fauna, the prosecutor wrote to Lefkowitz Epstein's lawyer.
So why is she telling him that she has a
list of thirty four confirmed miners. Why she's showing her hand,
Why is she telling the defense about any sort of
information they may have. What are they doing behind the scenes,
what sort of deal are they working on? And why
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there are six others whose names we already have who
need to be interviewed by the FBI to confirm whether
they were seventeen or eighteen at the time of their
activity with mister Epstein. And again, I don't really care
if they were eighteen, all right, If they were coerced
into this and they were trafficked in this, in this
trafficking ring and passed around to other people and all
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of this shit occurred, I don't care if they're eighteen.
They're human beings. That shouldn't even matter, all right. Of course,
crimes against miners are always the bottom of the barrel,
lowest of the low. But what are we just going
to ignore if somebody was eighteen or above, if they
were trafficked by this guy. All these claims that are
made need to be looked at. All of them need
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to be investigated. That is what I have always called
for here on this podcast. Equal justice under the law,
equal for us, equal for them, everybody gets their day
in court. In a December two thousand and seven letter,
the prosecutor acknowledges some notifications of alleged victims, but says
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they were sent after the US Attorney's office signed the
plea deal and halted for most of the women at
the request of Epstein's lawyers. Must be nice, Must be nice.
So they sign this draconian ass plea deal agreement, right,
they get this non prosecution agreement on paper. After it's
on paper, they get notifications from more victims. They've already
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signed the pleil the plea deal, I mean, and they
get them halted for Epstein's lawyers. Do you think anybody
else is getting that sort of treatment? You think El
Chappo's lawyers got that treatment. I mean, El Choppo's people
got that treatment. How about John Gottie, how about gas
Pipe Casso? Why would Jeffrey Epstein and Gilain Maxwell get
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such preferential treatment. Now, that's a rhetorical question, by the way, folks.
Three victims were notified shortly after the signing of the
non prosecution agreement. Of the general terms of that agreement,
Villafana wrote again to Lefkowitz, you raised objections to any
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victim notifications, and no further notifications were done. She's admitting
right here in this article that they broke the Victim's
Crimes Act. They didn't follow through with on their end
of the bargain of letting the survivors know what they
were up to. They had to let every single one know,
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and they didn't do that. And instead, since Leftkowitz and
Epstein's lawyers raised objections, they decided not to go further
with any more notifications, all because they were asked by
Epstein and his team of scummy ass smarmy involved lawyers.
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After Epstein pleaded guilty in June two thousand and eight
to two state felony charges relating to prostitution, two women
who claim to have been victims of the money mogul
filed suit against the federal government, claiming that prosecutors violated
the Crime Rights Act by failing to consult with them
about the plea deal, failing to disclose its terms, and
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failing to keep victims informed about important developments in the case.
The suit asks that the non pro prosecution deal be rescinded.
And now, remember this is the deal. This is what
we've been talking about that's in this the Eleventh Circuit
Court of Appeals. This is what they're looking at right now.
And again, I think that there is a lot of
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trouble on the horizon for the prosecutor's office and those
who were involved in getting Jeffrey Epstein. This deal. I mean,
just from the emails alone, folks, it's damning for Villa
Fauna and Krisher and the whole entire prosecutor's office in
the state of Florida, never mind the federal prosecutors that
were involved in the court filing unsealed Monday, the alleged
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survivors lawyer Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassel, contend that the
correspondence backs up their view that the prosecution in Epstein's
defense work together to frustrate the legal rights the survivors
should have been accorded. It's obvious what they were doing,
especially now when we look back and hindsight. We've had
all this time for things to settle in, We've had
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all this time for new information to appear, and we've
had all this time to put the pieces together. The
exchanges demonstrate that the survivor's allegations of a conspiracy between
the government and Epstein's attorneys to conceal the existence of
a broad non prosecution agreement are not mere speculation but
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appear to be well supported, Edwards and Cassell wrote. They
added that one email shows the parties negotiating to keep
the judge in the dark. About the full nature of
the plea arrangement, as well as keeping the survivors i e.
The girls in the dark about the plea agreement until
after Epstein's plea. It also shows the prosecutors setting up
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a meeting with the defense attorneys that would be off campus,
i e. Outside the ordinary course of business. So why
would they want to meet off campus? Why couldn't they
just meet at the prosecutor's off this Why can't they
sign and do whatever sort of deal they need to
be that needs to be done there? Why do you
have to meet somewhere else, somewhere where there's no surveillance,
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where nobody has a record of you coming and going.
It looks shady as hell. And when you add it
into what we've been dealing with with these scumbags. I
don't know about you, but I don't believe that they
were just meeting off campus for a nice cup of coffee.
Give me a break. Epstein's lawyers, who included at various
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times such heavyweights as former Independent counsel Kenneth Starr and
Harvard law professor Alan I kept my underpants on Dershowitz,
argue that the law did not require federal prosecutors to
make any notifications because the women were not victims of
any crime being charged in a federal court. Again, this
is what I talk about and why I get so
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fired up. The loopholes, the loopholes have to go. These
guys never get off because they're innocent. They get off
because there are loopholes for them to navigate. And these
same very loopholes are the ones that are put into
place and onto the books by their buddies that they're
rubbing elbows with at the golf club. See the problem
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here yet, folks, And you see why it's so crucial
that in your local elections you send people to Washington,
DC that are not scummy. Epstein was ultimately sentenced to
eighteen months in jail on the state charges. He served
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thirteen before being released. While Judge Kenneth Mara made more
information about the episode public Monday, he also dealt the
set back to the women and attorneys pursuing the victim's
right suit. Mara turned down the bulk of their request
for the US Attorney's Office's internal files and memos about
the case in his new rolling posted here. There's a
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hyperlink for you to follow the judge said most of
that material, included draft federal indictments, should remain confidential as
attorney's work work to produce excuse me, work product, or
secret grand jury material. However, Mara said the alleged survivors
were entitled to a few documents that appeared to have
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been shared with Epstein's defense team or were largely factual
in nature. Now, remember this stuff has all been sent
to the Eleventh Circuit Court, So the Eleventh Circuit will
take a look at all of it. They'll figure out,
you know, you know, what's gonna what's going to occur,
what's going to be released, if anything's going to be released,
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if this plea agreement is going to be tossed. So
that's definitely a big one. That's one we definitely have
to keep our eyes on, and we have to keep
digging into that and make sure we don't get backtracked there,
because it's very important going forward in this case. A
spokeswoman for the US Attorney's Office in Southern Florida declined
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to comment on the ruling and the newly unsealed plea details.
Federal prosecutors have previously said they agreed to the deal
to spare survivors the need to testify and to ease
their ability to get financial compensation from Epstein. You know,
they might want to, They might want they might wanted to,
you know, run that by. The survivors might want to
ask the girls if it was okay with them, because
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you know, according to the law, that's what they had
to do. And honestly, it's just the morally correct thing
to do. If I was prosecuting a case like this,
there's zero chance I wouldn't be in contact with the
people who were abused by this man, to be on
the same wavelength with their lawyers. And if I think
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that I could get a prosecution and go for the
gusto and put this son of a bitch away for
the rest of his life, you better damn well believe
that is where I'd be going, not this little shitty ass.
Eighteen month thirteen months served state sentence. What a bunch
of gobbage. A lawyer for Epstein, Roy Black, did not
respond to a message seeking comment. Epstein's prosecution and illegal morass,
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in which he is still ameshed have attracted unusual notoriety
because of his wealth as well of his as well
as his ties to well known politicians, professors, and celebrities.
Earlier this year, a woman seeking to join the victim's
rights suit and identified as Jane Doe three we know
who that is now alleged in court papers that she
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was kept as a sex slave by Epstein and forced
to have sex with prominent men, including Dershowitz and Britain's
Prince Andrew. Both men flatly denied the allegations. In April,
marastruck the a lurried claims from the court record and
denied Jane Doe's number Jane Doe Number Three's requests to
join the lawsuit. Republicans and conservatives have also taken a
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keen interest in President Bill Clinton's connections to Epstein, hoping
to make trouble for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Hillary Clinton's presidential bid. Press reports have noted that Bill Clinton,
as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker, used
Epstein's private seven twenty seven to travel to Africa in
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two thousand and two for a Clinton Foundation tour of
age fighting and developmental work. Flight lobs filed in connection
with another lawsuit show at least ten journeys by Clinton
on Epstein's planes and now, remember Clinton said he was
only on the plane four times. I've only been on
it four times. But what are you talking about? Blah
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blah blah, And even all the way back here in
twenty fifteen in Politico, they're talking about at least ten journeys,
and the author is not wrong here. There has always
been a political edge to this, both sides trying to
use it as a hatchet job to try and score
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polytical points for their side, when in reality, as I've
been saying for quite some time now, there are no
sides to this, folks. All we have here are a
bunch of scumbag elites who don't care about any of us,
never mind these girls and other girls who are exposed
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to their nonsense. I'd like to know what he was
doing with Jeffrey Epstein, How many trips did he take,
where he was going, What did he do when he
was with this guy? Republican National Committee chairman Rights Prebus
told Bloomberg in March, when you hang out with a
guy who has a reputation like Jeffrey Epstein multiple times
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on private jets, on weekends, on trips, on places at
least where it's been reported not very good things happen.
It would be good to know what our former president
was doing, especially because it appears he's going to be
part of a campaign ticket on the other side of
the eye. And while I think Rant's previous is an
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absolute moron, a water carrying neocon, even a broken clock
is right two times a day. The American people have
the right to know what Bill Clinton was doing with
Jeffrey Epstein. We have plenty of circumstantial evidence, folks, plenty
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of it. Last month, conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch filed
a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit demanding all Secret Service
records pertaining to the costs of any trips Bill Clinton
made to Epstein's private island in the Caribbean. This is
what I'm talking about. Do you really think Judicial Watch
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gives a damn about the survivors, cares about any of
those girls, or do they want to use this as
a political weapon to bash the Democrats over the head with.
It's very apparent and very obvious to anyone who's not
eating at the buffet of confirmation bias. What's going on here?
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Spokespeople for Hillary Clinton's campaign, the Clinton Foundation, and Bill
Clinton did not respond to a request for comment. A
lot smarter than Prince Andrew. Prince Andrews should have taken
a page out of Bill Clinton's book when it comes
to Jeffrey Epstein, keep your yap shut, because all of
these guys that were hanging out with him are in
serious peril. At least one presidential hopeful who has since
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jumped in the ring on the Republican side, was friendly
with Epstein, Donald Trump. I've known jeff for fifteen years.
Terrific guy, Trump told New York Magazine back in two
thousand and two. He has a lot of fun to
be with. It is even said. He likes beautiful women
as much as I do, and many of them are
on the younger side, No doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys
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his social lif Yeah, that's not the comment of a creeper.
That's not the comment of another uh uh, degenerate. Look,
nobody should be under any any delusions that Donald Trump
is a moral person. He is not. Okay, Donald Trump
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is not a moral person. He's not the hero of
this story like some on the writer trying to make
him out to be. He is another enabler. Another person
who was close to Jeffrey Epstein, and another person who
helped Jeffrey Epstein's reputation and helped him get in to
that part of society. These are just the facts, folks.
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I know it's uncomfortable, uncomfortable for people who are still
carrying water for one side or the other, but we
have to get past that shit. Look what it's doing
to our nation. Just today I saw two friends, two
people that have been friends since childhood, going at it
over stupid ass, dumb ass, nonsensical, divisive politics. And I
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will not be part of that shit. And I just
won't do it. I'm not doing it. For the past year,
I've been seeing how things have turned and found I've
found it's disturbing to me. It's very disturbing that we
can no longer have proper conversations. The whole point of
politics of Detonte is to talk with people you don't
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agree with. And if we've gotten to a point where
that's not going to happen, then I don't even know
what to say. We're honestly, we're finished as a society
if that's the case, and we're looking out of a
lot of pain coming down the pipe. I know, for
my part, I am I've taken a very clinical approach
to this whole entire thing for the past year and
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been very very neutral about what has been going on
politically as I've been immersed in this Jeffrey Epstein case.
But what I will say is the deceiveness has to stop.
A Trump associate said Tuesday that Trump wasn't aware of
any wrongdoing, that he and Epstein were not particularly close,
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and he was a member of Trump's clubs where he
would visit with women and business associates, but there was
no formal relationship, the source close to Trump said. And again, Trump,
just like the rest of them, Just like with Bill Clinton,
it's bullshit, dude, just own it own that you guys
were homies. Come forward and talk about what you know. Now.
I will say that Trump had spoke to Bradley Edwards
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back in the in the day when Bradley Edwards was
conducting his investigation. But you know, Okay, that's great, that's good.
It's a good step, no doubt about it. But wishing
Glenn Maxwell well, and you know, it's just been one
misstep after the other when it comes to Epstein with Trump.
So I don't know how anyone on the right can
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try and use Jeffrey Epstein as a cudgel to beat
people on the left and send people on the left
don't think God'd forgotten about you, because guess what, you
most certainly can't use this as a weapon against Donald
Trump and his people either, because guess what, folks, there's
enough scum baggery on both sides to go around. And
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the sooner we accept that the sooner will be to
getting to a point where we all understand that these
people who have chosen to become career politicians are the
real problem behind the scenes. They're the ones that write
these laws. They're the ones that wrote all of these
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laws with all of these loopholes that dershowitzen company used
to get Jeffrey Epstein off. These people that we elect,
these are the people that are taking money hand over
fist from people just like Jeffrey Epstein. And you don't
think that they're getting anything in return. People like Epstein
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are just ponying up dough what these politicians for their health,
of course not, we know it's symbiotic. We have to
make sure that the people that who are writing these
laws understand that the people, the populace, the citizens, are
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no longer going to accept the brazen display of this
two tier justice system that we have seen used countless
times against people who do not have means by people
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who are so called elite. It has to stop, one
justice system for everybody. That needs to be the goal,
and the only way we're ever going to get there
is if we have politicians that understand that the people
will not accept their bullshit any longer, and that goes
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for both sides of the aisle. If you'd like to
contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapuchi at
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