December 26, 2025 • 31 mins
The Wall Street Journal reports that the Epstein scandal unleashed a wave of internal turmoil in the Trump administration, as aides scrambled to contain political damage once Trump’s name began surfacing in Epstein-related files. What began as attempts to weaponize Epstein connections against rivals morphed into a defensive posture as Trump and his advisers found themselves under pressure from their own base and from Congress. The administration was plagued by missteps: Attorney General Pam Bondi’s sudden distribution of “Epstein Files: Phase 1” binders to conservative influencers backfired, communication lines within the White House frayed, and high-level figures — including Bondi, Deputy Director Dan Bongino, and others — clashed over strategy and messaging.
As the controversy deepened, conflicting impulses roiled the White House: some sought transparency to placate critics, while others pushed to suppress further disclosures. leaks, finger-pointing, and unforced errors intensified the chaos. In one pivotal moment, Trump himself became defensive, lashing out at supporters who demanded the release of more Epstein documentation even as the DOJ publicly declined further disclosures.
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As the controversy deepened, conflicting impulses roiled the White House: some sought transparency to placate critics, while others pushed to suppress further disclosures. leaks, finger-pointing, and unforced errors intensified the chaos. In one pivotal moment, Trump himself became defensive, lashing out at supporters who demanded the release of more Epstein documentation even as the DOJ publicly declined further disclosures.
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‘Bomb went off’: Report reveals moment Epstein files rocked the White House and why Trump is desperate to keep them secret | The Independent
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. According to a new report from the Wall
Street Journal, there was absolute chaos in the White House
in the wake of the DOJ and the FBI announcing
and dropping that memo over fourth of July weekend that
there'd be no more investigations. And according to these reports,
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things got so bad that people were splitting into factions,
and Susie Wiles, who is Trump's chief of staff, she
had to go and try and bridge the gaps between
the factions that were forming due to the way that
things were being handled when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein
and the Epstein files, and that certainly tracks with everything
we heard previously, especially with the report about Dan Bongino
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and him threatening to resign, and according to reports, him
and Pound Bondi, they still haven't bridged that gap and
they still have, you know, some animosity there, And it
really has me wondering who's going to end up being
the fall guy when eventually a fall guy is needed,
because you will already know that a fall guy is
going to be needed, So who's going to get the blame? Well,
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I think that the best two candidates for that are
Cash Battel and Pam Bondy, And if I was setting
a line as to which one of them becomes the
fall guy or in Bondi's case, the fall gal, I'd
be setting these lines at even money because it could
be either of them, and depending on how all this
ends up, it might end up being both of them
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that find themselves out of a job. Today we have
an article from The Independent and the headline bomb went off.
Report reveals moment Epstein files rock the White House and
why Trump is desperate to keep them secret. This article
was authored by Rhianne Lubin the moment, Pam Bondi is
Justice Department and the FBI quietly dropped a memo on
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the fourth of July weekend attempting to draw a line
under the Jeffrey Epstein file saga. It was like a
bomb went off in the White House. A new report
reveals for President Donald Trump's administration, the handling of the
Epstein case has been a chaotic summer of disorganization, high
stake strategy meetings in the situation room, finger appointing, and
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a series of unforced errors. The Wall Street Journal reports,
and that's really what it comes down to a bunch
of unforced errors. They could have avoided this whole entire
scandal and just release the files like they said that
we're going to do, But instead of doing that, now
we find ourselves in a position and in a place
where literally everything coming out of the Department of Justice
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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is a bunch of bs.
And considering nobody trusts the institutions anyway, probably not a
good idea to continue to double down on the nonsense, right,
not if you want people to actually believe anything you
have to say and back you up, because I don't
think there's anybody out there that believes the narrative that's
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coming out when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, not at
this point, and the more they want it to go,
the more people are paying attention. Tensions in the Trump
administration on how to best handle the Epstein scandal, a
crisis of the President's own making and to Piece's Magabase,
had been simmering since February, when the Attorney General claimed
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the files were sitting on her desk and havehazardly arranged
and ill fated pr stunt with right wing influencers, which
I called out at the time said it was a
bad idea, nothing of substance there. They weren't doing anything
that's going to move the case forward or get anybody
to buy in on what's going on, especially anybody on
the other side of the aisle. And it was at
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that point that I knew we were dealing with performative
politics and people that weren't interested in giving us the truth.
Because if they were serious about getting to the bottom
of what happened, if they were serious about pursuing this,
do you think they would have had a bunch of
morons at the White House like libs of TikTok, DC,
Draino and the rest of them, as opposed to the survivors.
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What do you think would have more impact on the people,
on the American citizens, on the taxpayers, on the people
who care. A bunch of influencers waving around binders or
Jeffrey Epstein's survivors walking out of a meeting with Pam Bondy.
You tell me which one has better optics and which
one's better for the country. And while I don't want
to go off on some rant about these influencers, you
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notice none of them have anything to say. Now they
made their money, they had their clicks, and now they've
moved on. A lot of them now are glazing Gleanne Maxwell.
I mean, I won't be shocked to see Glayne Maxwell
do the circuit after she gets her pardon The Benny
Johnson Show featuring Glayne Maxwell. I mean, is that really
that far out of the realm of possibility? With these people,
They're shameless, and it's never about taking a moral stand.
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It's always about blowing with whichever way the wind blows
and not standing up for what you believe in. See me,
I'll stand up for what I believe in, and I'll
say what I think is right, and if I think
something's wrong, I'm gonna call that out too. My morality
is non negotia and I'm certainly never going to sacrifice
it on the altar of politics, not for a bunch
of scumbacks that don't even like me, a bunch of
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people that hate me. Because I've told you a million
times and I'll tell you a million more, none of
these people that you argue about daily care about you.
They don't give one single damn about you. You think
they go home and think about your kids or about
how bad you have it No. They go home, they
make their little stock trades, They sip their champagne with
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their pinky up in the air, they suck down their
caveat while the rest of us are trying to figure
out if we can afford a stake or if we're
going to have to have Hamburger again. The influencers in
Binders stunt was the beginning of a series of mistakes
by multiple mouthpieces and Trump advisors who deeply underestimated the
issue that continues to dog the administration today. According to
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The Wall Street Journal, Trump socialized with Epstein in the
nineties and early two thousands, before cutting off contact following
the pedophiles first arrest in two thousand and six. Now
the press it in is desperate to rid himself of
the case, The outlet reports. White House officials reportedly believe
the issue would blow over, and the President couldn't understand
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why people were so obsessed with the late sex offender.
Well maybe, just maybe because you know, the CIA, a
government run apparatus, had an operation on the books that
was using children and young women as bait in their
honeytrap operation. That might have something to do with the
fact that we're not ready to move on and why
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it's not blown over and why people are obsessed. I mean,
God for fucking bid. But the Wall Street Journal also
reports that the president was worried some of his friends
might be mentioned in the files and they might have
been doctor to hurt him, according to people familiar with
Trump's comments. Now, look, his friends definitely mentioned in the files,
without a doubt. All those people who donated to him,
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all those people he covorted with, all these bankers, all
of them are named in the files, every last one
of them. Now does it mean that all of them
were engaging in Jeffrey Epstein's Morgas Board of Crimes. No,
it doesn't. But it doesn't absolve them of the fact
that they were around this man, that they saw things,
that they probably knew things, or, in my opinion, which
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is even more damning, probably the fact that they tried
to hide it for all this time. And of course
that leads people to ask, why are you hiding it?
What are you hiding and what kind of associations did
you have with this man? And if people would have
just been up front right from the beginning, they wouldn't
have to worry about it. But here we are with
people trying to run as far away from this as
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they can, people acting like they have Epstein related amnesia,
and that's not going to cut it. That is not
going to cut it anymore. This might be the most
worst managed pr event in history. Lawyer Ty Cobb, who
led the first Trump White House response to a twenty
seventeen Special Council probe into the campaign's ties to Russia,
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told the WSJ, it's certainly up there one of the
worst I've ever seen for And the main reason I
say that is because all of this, for the most part,
is self inflicted. If it was something else, like outside
forces coming up with all kinds of crazy shit, then
at least you'd have an excuse. But that's not what's
going on here. Every last bit of this can be
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tracked back to the Trump administration themselves and what they've
said on the campaign trail or once they got elected.
It's like the dude who blows his hand off playing
with firecrackers during Fourth of July and then complains that
he can't open up a bottle, bro what are you doing?
Nobody told you to hold that firecracker in your hand.
When approached by the Independent for a comment. White House
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spokesperson Abigail Jackson said the issue was a dead story.
This is a lazy rewrite of a dead story. Jackson
said of the report, It's not news that Epstein knew
Donald Trump because Donald Trump kicked Epstein out of his
club for being a creep? What does that even mean.
That's not what the story was about. The story is
about the fact that the White House split into factions
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over Jeffrey Epstein like they were on the set of
the movie The Warriors, Bongino threatening to quit, all kinds
of issues popping up, and Susie Wild's having to be
deployed to try and bridge the gap. How about you
comment on that, miss Jackson. Democrats in media knew about
Epstein and his victims for years and did nothing to
help them, while President Trump was calling for transparency and
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is now delivering on it with thousands of pages of documents.
Jackson added, Oh give me a break now. Look, they're
not wrong that the Democrats didn't do squat. They didn't,
and anybody telling you different is lying. The Democrats are
just as involved, have their hands just as dirty as
anyone on the Republican side. The only reason this is
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such an issue right now is because Donald Trump is
the president and this is a cover up. That's the
big issue here. But that doesn't absolve the Democrats of
all their bullshit throughout the years when it comes to
Epstein eating off his plate, enjoying his hospitality, taking his
backing in their elections, and the lot of them not
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even giving the money back. In a statement to the WSJ,
Bondie said she's working tirelessly alongside FBI Director Cash Bttel
to make America safer. Our only priority is to continue
working together with the FBI to make America safer by
ensuring murderers and violent criminals face the most severe justice.
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Bondie said, unless you have money, unless you hung out
with Epstein, then it's cool. You can do whatever you want,
get away with what you want when you want to
get away with it, and there's never ever going to
be any kind of repercussions whatsoever. Meanwhile, you and I, well,
we better do everything that the government tells us, or
else they'll send the swat team to your house and
you'll end up thrown into some hole somewhere and forgotten about,
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just like Kleif Browder. But if you're Glenn Dubin, if
you're Les Wexner, if you're any of these powerful people
that were around Epstein that were accused of taking part
in the abuse themselves, No big deal, no investigations, just
giant cover ups now for you and me. Oh, we
don't get cover ups, We get jail. All right, folks.
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That's gonna do it for part one. In the next episode,
we're gonna pick up where we left off and wrap
this bad boy up. All of the information that goes
with this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the Independent article talking about the chaos
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within the Trump administration after the Jeffrey Epstein scandal exploded
once again. This article was authored by Rion Lubin. Bondi
had only been in her post for three weeks when
she was asked during a Fox News interview whether the
Justice Department would release Epstein's alleged client list. It's sitting
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on my desk right now to review. She responded, that's
been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. This
statement flummox Trump officials. According to the WSJ, the document
was BONDI talking about They reportedly wondered talk about the
right hand not knowing what the left hand's doing. You
would think that they'd be coordinating on something like this, No,
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but instead we see that it was mishandled. Once again,
This whole entire investigation has been mishandled from the very beginning.
FBI officials pulled an all nighter to pull together the
now infamous Epstein Files Phase one binders for a publicity
event on February twenty seventh. We're far right influencers including
Jack Psoa Bick, and Scott Presler, as well as the
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individuals behind the libs of TikTok and DC Drano accounts
were given the documents. Can you imagine turning this into
some kind of photo wop and then you have these
stupid ass white binders that these morons are shoving into
the air like they're proud of them. Meanwhile, it was
just a bunch of regurgitated information. Stuff we've all known already,
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stuff that's been out for years. And what's even crazier
is none of these people even know anything about the story.
You would think that you'd bring in people that you
know understand the story, people that know what's going on.
How about the survivors. How about we start there. And honestly,
I don't really care what you think about Julie K.
Brown one way or the other. I'm not exactly her
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biggest fan. But if you're going to have people at
the White House that were part of the media that
we're breaking the story, that we're talking about the story,
probably a good idea to invite Julie K. Brown. No,
But instead we yet DC Dreno, libs of TikTok and
Scott Presler. So the whole entire thing was just weird
from the jump. And I told you all back then
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that it was going to explode in their faces. This
isn't the kind of story where political stunts work. Way
too many people are way too invested and know the
story too well for you to be able to gaslight
them and act like you are doing something when you're not,
and rolling out a bunch of influencers who don't know
shit about the story. Certainly not a good idea then,
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and deafly not a good idea now. Jubulant images of
the group holding the binders Aloft were published, but their
excitement quickly faded when they realized that the content was
already almost entirely in the public domain. Some were outraged
and blame Bondie. Well, that could have been alleviated if
people actually knew the story the second they got the binders,
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they would have opened them up and looked at them
and said, hey, this is BS. I'm not putting my
name behind this. What are you crazy. There's way too
many people that want to be famous, way too many
people that sit on social media all day, getting people
riled up, talking a bunch of nonsense, all for the
love of the mighty dollar. It's all about clicks, it's
all about driving traffic to their Twitter page or whatever.
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But this isn't the story for that. There's way too
many unanswered questions, way too many people who have been
abused and who haven't gotten justice for you to be
out here taking a victory lap because you got some
stupid ass white binder with a bunch of nonsense in it.
So it looked bad then and it looks even worse now.
Trump's communication aids were given only a few minutes notice
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about the event and didn't know Bondi planned to talk
about Epstein. According to the WSJ, talk about plausible deniability.
Huh got to create that distance. Oh, we had no
idea that Bondi was up to this. So what you're
doing is creating Bondi as the fall woman. And we
all knew that was coming. It's either going to be
Cash Bettel or Paum Bondi. I don't know which one's
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going to get fired first, but one of them's going.
And it went down like a lead balloon. With the
White House, Bondy was reportedly pulled aside and told to
tone down the issue, not draw attention to it. After
you spent the whole entire time on the campaign trail
talking nonsense. I mean, wow, they really just don't respect you.
They think you're stupid, and they think you'll just continue
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to vote for them, because well the answer is, at
least for me, no, And for anybody out there who
thinks that I might have been, you know, some kind
of Kamala supporter, think again, I most certainly did not
vote for a Kamala Harris. So it's not like I'm
sitting here with some kind of axe to grind, suffering
from Trump derangement syndrome. And just trying to hammer Trump
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because I hate him or something. That's not the case.
In fact, if you go back and look at my history,
I very rarely even talked about the guy until he
swerved into my lane. But once you swerve into this lane,
well guess what You're on the clock, homie President of
the United States, Prince of England. I don't care if
you want to fawn over somebody. This is not the
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right place. And that goes for all these politicians. I
don't trust any of them. None of them care about me,
so why should I care about them. One of my
models in life is if it's a f me, it's
certainly few. After the Binder embarrassment, anger over the Epstein
files continued to bubble away for the next few months.
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It came to a head when Elon Musk tossed in
Epstein grenade on June fifth, following his exit from the
White House, as a public feud broke out between the
billionaire and Trump. And what's funny about that is Elon
Musk also has his own ties to Epstein and Maxwell.
But he's out here throwing these grenades like he has
nothing answer for himself. How about the billionaire's dinner, Elon,
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how about the other meetings and a few years ago
when I pointed that out to Elon Musk, I ended
up getting my Twitter account shut down. I know it
was just a coincidence, right, nothing to see here. Shortly after,
he wrote, marked his post for the future. The truth
will come out later, perhaps as cooler has prevailed. Musk
deleted the post, but the damage was already done. Ye
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had not exactly a great look for one of your allies,
especially when it's an ally like Elon Musk to have
that kind of post, right, probably not something the President
wanted to see amid a title wave, a backlash from MAGA,
FBI director Cash Ptel and others at the bureau reportedly
wanted to release a statement to explain why they were
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dropping the Epstein case. The WSJ reported. Bondie, meanwhile, had
complained to the White House and the President about the
scrutiny she was receiving. Trump encouraged her to buck up,
and others told her to stop looking at social media
and lashing out at those posting what is she thirteen?
And you know what social media and are elected officials.
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I'm tired of it. They should post in an official capacity,
and that's it. All this back and forth with people,
really have some dignity, have some respect for the office
that you were elected to. And this goes for all
of them, folks. A lot of people out here are
talking a lot of dumb shit. She told White House
officials that FBI leaders, including Patel, were out toget her.
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The people reportedly said, it's always some infighting, right. Nobody
can ever just go and do the people's business. It
always has to be some kind of song and dance,
some kind of fucking reality show. The Justice Department and
the FBI dropped a six hundred word memo on July sixth,
effectively closing the case into the pedophile. It determined that
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no further disclosures would be appropriate or warranted. Much was
sealed by a court to protect Epstein's victims, and only
a fraction of it would have been aired publicly had
Epstein gone to trial. That is so incorrect and not
true that it's not even funny. Additionally, the memo said
that no further charges were expected as investigators did not
uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. Well,
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that's because they didn't use rico. It was all done
by design. Don't people see that? And the whole entire
reason was so that later on, meaning now they could
use it as cover. Oh well look there was nobody
else involved. Well yeah, you only charge one person. What
about all the money that was being sent to other people?
What about all the money that was being received? What
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about all of the tax evasion, what about all of
the structuring, what about all of the Title thirty one issues,
what about the scams with the visas? I mean, I
can go on for fucking ever. So please stop the bullshit,
because this is not the flex that the DOJ thinks
it is. So what you're telling us is that you
undercharged them in the first place. So why did you
do that? Who was involved in that decision? Why wasn't
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it Rico? Because I'll tell you right now, they had
no reservations about smashing my grandfather with rico, zero reservations
over illegal gambling. Really, more like because his last name
ends in a vowel. That's what that really meant. If
Jeffrey Epstein's last name was ANZELONEI bro would have been
buried underneath the prison and they would have told you
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that he was as bad as El Choppo. And I
mean that's only one example. What about Diddy? Why did
he get hit with Rico? What about r Kelly? What
about Keith ray Neery? All of those people get hit
with Rico, but not Jeffrey Epstein, not Gahlene Maxwell. Ask
yourself why? And I know I bring that up a lot,
but it's important. It's a very important part of the
story that a lot of people miss. You have to
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be able to read in between the lines. They're not
gonna lay everything out for you. You have to do
that work yourself. Unfortunately, also released where hours of footage,
which officials say further confirms Epstein died by suicide while
in custody in his jail cell in Manhattan in twenty nineteen,
quashing the conspiracy theory previously pushed by Patel and his
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deputy Dan Bongino that he was murdered. It was like
a bomb went off after that statement went out, one
senior White House official told the WSJ, and look, I'm sorry,
but I still do not believe for a second that
Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, not the way they're telling us,
Not because he thought he couldn't win the case or
because he was depressed. I don't buy that for a minute,
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and you shouldn't either. Maga's Laura Lumer, an influential voice
in the movement, was among the loudest calling for Bondie's resignation.
After news of the memo broke, Lomer gave the Attorney
general the belittling name Blondie in social media posts on
x and Twitter, Blondie lied, Lumer posted in July, She's
always lying, and look, I'd be lying if I said
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I had this insider information about Laura Lumer or know
much about her. I only know what I've read, and
she seems like an instigator, somebody that is throwing bombs
and trying to instigate things by bringing pressure onto people
and hopes that the pressure campaign will lead to these
people getting canned. Then of course you have some people
out there that say she has a lot more power
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than that, and that she works off the books as
an advisor to President Trump and as a zeer, and
in the age of social media influencers, I wouldn't be
shocked by it. Remember, it's all about the narrative battle.
They're trying to win the narrative. And if they can
win the narrative. They're gonna win the war. Who releases
a statement about the Epstein files on the Sunday night
of fourth of July weekend. She asked her followers, someone
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who doesn't want you paying attention, Well, wouldn't her boss
have something to say about that? You know, Donald Trump?
So we think that Bondi just did this all on
her own. I mean, I guess very possible, but I
have my doubts. Later on, when Trump and his allies
reportedly started ringing around MAGA allies to diffuse the situation,
Lumer was contacted by a White House official who told
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her that Bondi needed to be more careful, but that
Trump had no intention of firing her. The right wing
influencer recalled to the WSJ, So there's somebody feeding them information,
one of these influencers who probably doesn't like Laura Lumer.
Make no mistake, folks, the court intrigue is in full gear,
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and there's a lot of backstabbing and crawling over your
colleagues to try and get where you want to go.
And if you think these people care about each other,
you're crazy. They do not. They care about political gain
and climbing that ladder. White House Chief of Staff Susie
Wiles reportedly said that the FBI and Justice Department memo
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had been a mistake. As the administration faced uproar from
Trump's own base, things that had become so fraught that
Wiles moved to convene a series of Epstein strategy meetings
in the Situation Room, the soul called war room used
to discuss responses to highly sensitive global crisis. Well, what
do you think this is. There's a lot of people
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that still don't understand the full scope of this and
don't understand just how far this rot goes. Vice President
jd Vance led the push for more disclosure, According to
officials familiar with the discussions, Whiles and others argued that
they would never be able to pacify the most rabbit
Epstein conspiracy theorists. The WSJ reports, Look, what does that
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even mean? Like, what's a rabbit conspiracy theorist? Now, not
in general, obviously, I know what it means. I'm talking
about in context, because the big conspiracy here is the
fact that you people continue to hide this shit. That's
the real conspiracy. I mean, unless she's talking about the
people who think dragon men are involved, or that people
are drinking adrenochrome or something like that. But for the
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most part, I think that there's a lot of really
level headed investigation that has taken place when it comes
to Epstein. But one of their favorite tricks is to
conflate everything together and act like everybody's alone. And it's
a very effective strategy for people who only watch mainstream news.
When they hear about Epstein and then they hear about, oh,
the far right or conspiracy theories, people tune out. So
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if you're on the left and you're just learning about
this story, like I've told you a million times, be
mad at the outlets that you follow, Be mad at
the Rachel Maddows, Be mad at the CNNs, Be mad
at the people who told you that this was overblown,
because those people have helped us get to a point
where we are now, where we have to fight tooth
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and nail for every bit of information. When this story
was hot, these people were nowhere to be seen. Now
that the story is safe, quote unquote, they're coming out
of the woodwork like you wouldn't believe. Despite Aid's best efforts,
the Epstein story was not going away. Trump made a
call to Rupert Murdoch from Air Force one in an
attempt to kill a WSJ report published on July seventeenth
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about a fiftieth birthday greeting that the President allegedly sent
Epstein in two thousand and three. The letter, allegedly signed
by Trump, which features a sexually suggestive drawing and a
birthday wish that says, may every day be another wonderful Secret,
was first published by the newspaper and then shared with
members of Congress by the Epstein estate. Trump has repeatedly
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denied writing the letter and denied that a signature on
the document is his. The president ten billion dollar defamation
lawsuit claims that no authentic letter or a drawing exists,
and on his true social account, he called the WSJ's
story of false, malicious, defamatory, fake news article in the
useless rag that it is. Lawyers for the newspaper hit
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back earlier this week and argue that the President's lawsuit
does not include a single plausible allegation that any of
the defendants, which include right wing media mogul Rupert Murdoch
and the newspaper's parent companies, knowingly published false statements about him.
The article's true, lawyers wrote Monday, and the evidence is
publicly available for anyone to see. And even though this
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letter is now public, there is no move to dismiss
the suit. Why not? So that means there is fraud? Okay,
who engaged in fraud? When's the investigation launching into that?
Lawyers for Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend, you mean co
conspirator all around, scuzbag and bipudal serpent? Is that what
you mean? And the only other person charged in connection
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with the financier's crimes reportedly spotted an opportunity. In late
July's rage over the case refused to die down. House
Speaker Mike Johnson had just ground the House of Representatives
to a screeching halt in order to block legislation filed
by GOP Representative Thomas Massey and Democratic Representative Rocana to
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force the release of the Epstein files. In thirty days,
all their maneuvering, all their bullshit, and we're still going
to get the discharge petition. So what did Mike Johnson
accomplish besides burning political capital. Maxwell's current lawyer, David Oscar Marcus,
reportedly reached out to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to
make an offer. According to the WSJ, reached out what
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when they were on the golf course together, remember their buddies.
Would the Justice Department want to interview Maxwell and see
what she had to say? Marcus reportedly offered Blanche, who
did not request a pardon or a preferential treatment for
his client. The outlet of reports they took Marcus up
on the offer and question Maxwell for two days. She
said she never saw the president doing anything inappropriate or illegal.
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Transcripts later released by the Justice Department revealed on the
second day of questioning, Maxwell was given breakfast from Chick
fil A. According to the newspaper, Oh isn't that nice?
And furthermore, you're over here coddling somebody who's a known
liar charged with perjury. Then out of the other side
of your mouth, you're yelling and screaming that Comy lied
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to Congress. Well, Glene Maxwell lied too, So if you're
going to be that pissed at Camy, why in the
fuck is Glenn Maxwell getting Chick fil a sandwiches. Maxwell
is currently serving twenty year sentence for her role in
helping Epstein recruit, groom and abuse young girls. About a
week after the interview, the sixty three year old British
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socialite was moved to a minimum security prison camp in Brian, Texas.
The reason behind the move was over concerns for her safety,
according to the WSJ. Meanwhile, the White House debated whether
to release the transcripts and audio of the Maxwell interviews,
believing it could finally end the drama. Imagine really thinking
that who's in charge of this? Whose running point when
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it comes to Epstein? Because whoever it is should be fired.
They released the transcripts on August twenty second, and top
officials were reportedly convinced that the scandal would soon blow over.
On September second, when lawmakers returned from their summer recess,
Massey filed the discharge petition in an attempt to force
a House vote on releasing the files. Conna and Massey
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held a press conference the following day with Epstein's survivors,
who called for the files to be released their entirety.
Trump is reportedly now scrambling to sway three Republican congresswoman
who signed the petition, now that a majority of House
members have signed a measure to force a full floor
vote and look there's gonna be a lot of cajoling,
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and all we can do is hope that these three
people stand strong. And those three are Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert,
and Marjorie Taylor Green. So as long as they stand firm,
this petition's gonna make its way through and it's going
to come up for a vote, and at that point
they're going to be running out of real estate when
it comes to places to hide and not go on
the record with your vote. And really that's what it
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comes down to. Who's interested in justice and who's not.
And according to the votes that Massey says that he's compiled,
we're gonna find out real soon. So like usual, we'll
be here every step of the way. As this story continues,
the mushroom and the cover up continues to grow. All
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of the information that goes with this episode can be
found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. According to a new report from the Wall
Street Journal, there was absolute chaos in the White House
in the wake of the DOJ and the FBI announcing
and dropping that memo over fourth of July weekend that
there'd be no more investigations. And according to these reports,
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things got so bad that people were splitting into factions,
and Susie Wiles, who is Trump's chief of staff, she
had to go and try and bridge the gaps between
the factions that were forming due to the way that
things were being handled when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein
and the Epstein files, and that certainly tracks with everything
we heard previously, especially with the report about Dan Bongino
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and him threatening to resign, and according to reports, him
and Pound Bondi, they still haven't bridged that gap and
they still have, you know, some animosity there, And it
really has me wondering who's going to end up being
the fall guy when eventually a fall guy is needed,
because you will already know that a fall guy is
going to be needed, So who's going to get the blame? Well,
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I think that the best two candidates for that are
Cash Battel and Pam Bondy, And if I was setting
a line as to which one of them becomes the
fall guy or in Bondi's case, the fall gal, I'd
be setting these lines at even money because it could
be either of them, and depending on how all this
ends up, it might end up being both of them
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that find themselves out of a job. Today we have
an article from The Independent and the headline bomb went off.
Report reveals moment Epstein files rock the White House and
why Trump is desperate to keep them secret. This article
was authored by Rhianne Lubin the moment, Pam Bondi is
Justice Department and the FBI quietly dropped a memo on
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the fourth of July weekend attempting to draw a line
under the Jeffrey Epstein file saga. It was like a
bomb went off in the White House. A new report
reveals for President Donald Trump's administration, the handling of the
Epstein case has been a chaotic summer of disorganization, high
stake strategy meetings in the situation room, finger appointing, and
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a series of unforced errors. The Wall Street Journal reports,
and that's really what it comes down to a bunch
of unforced errors. They could have avoided this whole entire
scandal and just release the files like they said that
we're going to do, But instead of doing that, now
we find ourselves in a position and in a place
where literally everything coming out of the Department of Justice
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when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein is a bunch of bs.
And considering nobody trusts the institutions anyway, probably not a
good idea to continue to double down on the nonsense, right,
not if you want people to actually believe anything you
have to say and back you up, because I don't
think there's anybody out there that believes the narrative that's
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coming out when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, not at
this point, and the more they want it to go,
the more people are paying attention. Tensions in the Trump
administration on how to best handle the Epstein scandal, a
crisis of the President's own making and to Piece's Magabase,
had been simmering since February, when the Attorney General claimed
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the files were sitting on her desk and havehazardly arranged
and ill fated pr stunt with right wing influencers, which
I called out at the time said it was a
bad idea, nothing of substance there. They weren't doing anything
that's going to move the case forward or get anybody
to buy in on what's going on, especially anybody on
the other side of the aisle. And it was at
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that point that I knew we were dealing with performative
politics and people that weren't interested in giving us the truth.
Because if they were serious about getting to the bottom
of what happened, if they were serious about pursuing this,
do you think they would have had a bunch of
morons at the White House like libs of TikTok, DC,
Draino and the rest of them, as opposed to the survivors.
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What do you think would have more impact on the people,
on the American citizens, on the taxpayers, on the people
who care. A bunch of influencers waving around binders or
Jeffrey Epstein's survivors walking out of a meeting with Pam Bondy.
You tell me which one has better optics and which
one's better for the country. And while I don't want
to go off on some rant about these influencers, you
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notice none of them have anything to say. Now they
made their money, they had their clicks, and now they've
moved on. A lot of them now are glazing Gleanne Maxwell.
I mean, I won't be shocked to see Glayne Maxwell
do the circuit after she gets her pardon The Benny
Johnson Show featuring Glayne Maxwell. I mean, is that really
that far out of the realm of possibility? With these people,
They're shameless, and it's never about taking a moral stand.
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It's always about blowing with whichever way the wind blows
and not standing up for what you believe in. See me,
I'll stand up for what I believe in, and I'll
say what I think is right, and if I think
something's wrong, I'm gonna call that out too. My morality
is non negotia and I'm certainly never going to sacrifice
it on the altar of politics, not for a bunch
of scumbacks that don't even like me, a bunch of
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people that hate me. Because I've told you a million
times and I'll tell you a million more, none of
these people that you argue about daily care about you.
They don't give one single damn about you. You think
they go home and think about your kids or about
how bad you have it No. They go home, they
make their little stock trades, They sip their champagne with
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their pinky up in the air, they suck down their
caveat while the rest of us are trying to figure
out if we can afford a stake or if we're
going to have to have Hamburger again. The influencers in
Binders stunt was the beginning of a series of mistakes
by multiple mouthpieces and Trump advisors who deeply underestimated the
issue that continues to dog the administration today. According to
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The Wall Street Journal, Trump socialized with Epstein in the
nineties and early two thousands, before cutting off contact following
the pedophiles first arrest in two thousand and six. Now
the press it in is desperate to rid himself of
the case, The outlet reports. White House officials reportedly believe
the issue would blow over, and the President couldn't understand
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why people were so obsessed with the late sex offender.
Well maybe, just maybe because you know, the CIA, a
government run apparatus, had an operation on the books that
was using children and young women as bait in their
honeytrap operation. That might have something to do with the
fact that we're not ready to move on and why
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it's not blown over and why people are obsessed. I mean,
God for fucking bid. But the Wall Street Journal also
reports that the president was worried some of his friends
might be mentioned in the files and they might have
been doctor to hurt him, according to people familiar with
Trump's comments. Now, look, his friends definitely mentioned in the files,
without a doubt. All those people who donated to him,
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all those people he covorted with, all these bankers, all
of them are named in the files, every last one
of them. Now does it mean that all of them
were engaging in Jeffrey Epstein's Morgas Board of Crimes. No,
it doesn't. But it doesn't absolve them of the fact
that they were around this man, that they saw things,
that they probably knew things, or, in my opinion, which
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is even more damning, probably the fact that they tried
to hide it for all this time. And of course
that leads people to ask, why are you hiding it?
What are you hiding and what kind of associations did
you have with this man? And if people would have
just been up front right from the beginning, they wouldn't
have to worry about it. But here we are with
people trying to run as far away from this as
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they can, people acting like they have Epstein related amnesia,
and that's not going to cut it. That is not
going to cut it anymore. This might be the most
worst managed pr event in history. Lawyer Ty Cobb, who
led the first Trump White House response to a twenty
seventeen Special Council probe into the campaign's ties to Russia,
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told the WSJ, it's certainly up there one of the
worst I've ever seen for And the main reason I
say that is because all of this, for the most part,
is self inflicted. If it was something else, like outside
forces coming up with all kinds of crazy shit, then
at least you'd have an excuse. But that's not what's
going on here. Every last bit of this can be
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tracked back to the Trump administration themselves and what they've
said on the campaign trail or once they got elected.
It's like the dude who blows his hand off playing
with firecrackers during Fourth of July and then complains that
he can't open up a bottle, bro what are you doing?
Nobody told you to hold that firecracker in your hand.
When approached by the Independent for a comment. White House
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spokesperson Abigail Jackson said the issue was a dead story.
This is a lazy rewrite of a dead story. Jackson
said of the report, It's not news that Epstein knew
Donald Trump because Donald Trump kicked Epstein out of his
club for being a creep? What does that even mean.
That's not what the story was about. The story is
about the fact that the White House split into factions
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over Jeffrey Epstein like they were on the set of
the movie The Warriors, Bongino threatening to quit, all kinds
of issues popping up, and Susie Wild's having to be
deployed to try and bridge the gap. How about you
comment on that, miss Jackson. Democrats in media knew about
Epstein and his victims for years and did nothing to
help them, while President Trump was calling for transparency and
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is now delivering on it with thousands of pages of documents.
Jackson added, Oh give me a break now. Look, they're
not wrong that the Democrats didn't do squat. They didn't,
and anybody telling you different is lying. The Democrats are
just as involved, have their hands just as dirty as
anyone on the Republican side. The only reason this is
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such an issue right now is because Donald Trump is
the president and this is a cover up. That's the
big issue here. But that doesn't absolve the Democrats of
all their bullshit throughout the years when it comes to
Epstein eating off his plate, enjoying his hospitality, taking his
backing in their elections, and the lot of them not
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even giving the money back. In a statement to the WSJ,
Bondie said she's working tirelessly alongside FBI Director Cash Bttel
to make America safer. Our only priority is to continue
working together with the FBI to make America safer by
ensuring murderers and violent criminals face the most severe justice.
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Bondie said, unless you have money, unless you hung out
with Epstein, then it's cool. You can do whatever you want,
get away with what you want when you want to
get away with it, and there's never ever going to
be any kind of repercussions whatsoever. Meanwhile, you and I, well,
we better do everything that the government tells us, or
else they'll send the swat team to your house and
you'll end up thrown into some hole somewhere and forgotten about,
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just like Kleif Browder. But if you're Glenn Dubin, if
you're Les Wexner, if you're any of these powerful people
that were around Epstein that were accused of taking part
in the abuse themselves, No big deal, no investigations, just
giant cover ups now for you and me. Oh, we
don't get cover ups, We get jail. All right, folks.
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That's gonna do it for part one. In the next episode,
we're gonna pick up where we left off and wrap
this bad boy up. All of the information that goes
with this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the Independent article talking about the chaos
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within the Trump administration after the Jeffrey Epstein scandal exploded
once again. This article was authored by Rion Lubin. Bondi
had only been in her post for three weeks when
she was asked during a Fox News interview whether the
Justice Department would release Epstein's alleged client list. It's sitting
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on my desk right now to review. She responded, that's
been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that. This
statement flummox Trump officials. According to the WSJ, the document
was BONDI talking about They reportedly wondered talk about the
right hand not knowing what the left hand's doing. You
would think that they'd be coordinating on something like this, No,
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but instead we see that it was mishandled. Once again,
This whole entire investigation has been mishandled from the very beginning.
FBI officials pulled an all nighter to pull together the
now infamous Epstein Files Phase one binders for a publicity
event on February twenty seventh. We're far right influencers including
Jack Psoa Bick, and Scott Presler, as well as the
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individuals behind the libs of TikTok and DC Drano accounts
were given the documents. Can you imagine turning this into
some kind of photo wop and then you have these
stupid ass white binders that these morons are shoving into
the air like they're proud of them. Meanwhile, it was
just a bunch of regurgitated information. Stuff we've all known already,
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stuff that's been out for years. And what's even crazier
is none of these people even know anything about the story.
You would think that you'd bring in people that you
know understand the story, people that know what's going on.
How about the survivors. How about we start there. And honestly,
I don't really care what you think about Julie K.
Brown one way or the other. I'm not exactly her
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biggest fan. But if you're going to have people at
the White House that were part of the media that
we're breaking the story, that we're talking about the story,
probably a good idea to invite Julie K. Brown. No,
But instead we yet DC Dreno, libs of TikTok and
Scott Presler. So the whole entire thing was just weird
from the jump. And I told you all back then
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that it was going to explode in their faces. This
isn't the kind of story where political stunts work. Way
too many people are way too invested and know the
story too well for you to be able to gaslight
them and act like you are doing something when you're not,
and rolling out a bunch of influencers who don't know
shit about the story. Certainly not a good idea then,
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and deafly not a good idea now. Jubulant images of
the group holding the binders Aloft were published, but their
excitement quickly faded when they realized that the content was
already almost entirely in the public domain. Some were outraged
and blame Bondie. Well, that could have been alleviated if
people actually knew the story the second they got the binders,
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they would have opened them up and looked at them
and said, hey, this is BS. I'm not putting my
name behind this. What are you crazy. There's way too
many people that want to be famous, way too many
people that sit on social media all day, getting people
riled up, talking a bunch of nonsense, all for the
love of the mighty dollar. It's all about clicks, it's
all about driving traffic to their Twitter page or whatever.
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But this isn't the story for that. There's way too
many unanswered questions, way too many people who have been
abused and who haven't gotten justice for you to be
out here taking a victory lap because you got some
stupid ass white binder with a bunch of nonsense in it.
So it looked bad then and it looks even worse now.
Trump's communication aids were given only a few minutes notice
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about the event and didn't know Bondi planned to talk
about Epstein. According to the WSJ, talk about plausible deniability.
Huh got to create that distance. Oh, we had no
idea that Bondi was up to this. So what you're
doing is creating Bondi as the fall woman. And we
all knew that was coming. It's either going to be
Cash Bettel or Paum Bondi. I don't know which one's
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going to get fired first, but one of them's going.
And it went down like a lead balloon. With the
White House, Bondy was reportedly pulled aside and told to
tone down the issue, not draw attention to it. After
you spent the whole entire time on the campaign trail
talking nonsense. I mean, wow, they really just don't respect you.
They think you're stupid, and they think you'll just continue
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to vote for them, because well the answer is, at
least for me, no, And for anybody out there who
thinks that I might have been, you know, some kind
of Kamala supporter, think again, I most certainly did not
vote for a Kamala Harris. So it's not like I'm
sitting here with some kind of axe to grind, suffering
from Trump derangement syndrome. And just trying to hammer Trump
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because I hate him or something. That's not the case.
In fact, if you go back and look at my history,
I very rarely even talked about the guy until he
swerved into my lane. But once you swerve into this lane,
well guess what You're on the clock, homie President of
the United States, Prince of England. I don't care if
you want to fawn over somebody. This is not the
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right place. And that goes for all these politicians. I
don't trust any of them. None of them care about me,
so why should I care about them. One of my
models in life is if it's a f me, it's
certainly few. After the Binder embarrassment, anger over the Epstein
files continued to bubble away for the next few months.
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It came to a head when Elon Musk tossed in
Epstein grenade on June fifth, following his exit from the
White House, as a public feud broke out between the
billionaire and Trump. And what's funny about that is Elon
Musk also has his own ties to Epstein and Maxwell.
But he's out here throwing these grenades like he has
nothing answer for himself. How about the billionaire's dinner, Elon,
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how about the other meetings and a few years ago
when I pointed that out to Elon Musk, I ended
up getting my Twitter account shut down. I know it
was just a coincidence, right, nothing to see here. Shortly after,
he wrote, marked his post for the future. The truth
will come out later, perhaps as cooler has prevailed. Musk
deleted the post, but the damage was already done. Ye
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had not exactly a great look for one of your allies,
especially when it's an ally like Elon Musk to have
that kind of post, right, probably not something the President
wanted to see amid a title wave, a backlash from MAGA,
FBI director Cash Ptel and others at the bureau reportedly
wanted to release a statement to explain why they were
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dropping the Epstein case. The WSJ reported. Bondie, meanwhile, had
complained to the White House and the President about the
scrutiny she was receiving. Trump encouraged her to buck up,
and others told her to stop looking at social media
and lashing out at those posting what is she thirteen?
And you know what social media and are elected officials.
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I'm tired of it. They should post in an official capacity,
and that's it. All this back and forth with people,
really have some dignity, have some respect for the office
that you were elected to. And this goes for all
of them, folks. A lot of people out here are
talking a lot of dumb shit. She told White House
officials that FBI leaders, including Patel, were out toget her.
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The people reportedly said, it's always some infighting, right. Nobody
can ever just go and do the people's business. It
always has to be some kind of song and dance,
some kind of fucking reality show. The Justice Department and
the FBI dropped a six hundred word memo on July sixth,
effectively closing the case into the pedophile. It determined that
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no further disclosures would be appropriate or warranted. Much was
sealed by a court to protect Epstein's victims, and only
a fraction of it would have been aired publicly had
Epstein gone to trial. That is so incorrect and not
true that it's not even funny. Additionally, the memo said
that no further charges were expected as investigators did not
uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. Well,
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that's because they didn't use rico. It was all done
by design. Don't people see that? And the whole entire
reason was so that later on, meaning now they could
use it as cover. Oh well look there was nobody
else involved. Well yeah, you only charge one person. What
about all the money that was being sent to other people?
What about all the money that was being received? What
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about all of the tax evasion, what about all of
the structuring, what about all of the Title thirty one issues,
what about the scams with the visas? I mean, I
can go on for fucking ever. So please stop the bullshit,
because this is not the flex that the DOJ thinks
it is. So what you're telling us is that you
undercharged them in the first place. So why did you
do that? Who was involved in that decision? Why wasn't
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it Rico? Because I'll tell you right now, they had
no reservations about smashing my grandfather with rico, zero reservations
over illegal gambling. Really, more like because his last name
ends in a vowel. That's what that really meant. If
Jeffrey Epstein's last name was ANZELONEI bro would have been
buried underneath the prison and they would have told you
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that he was as bad as El Choppo. And I
mean that's only one example. What about Diddy? Why did
he get hit with Rico? What about r Kelly? What
about Keith ray Neery? All of those people get hit
with Rico, but not Jeffrey Epstein, not Gahlene Maxwell. Ask
yourself why? And I know I bring that up a lot,
but it's important. It's a very important part of the
story that a lot of people miss. You have to
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be able to read in between the lines. They're not
gonna lay everything out for you. You have to do
that work yourself. Unfortunately, also released where hours of footage,
which officials say further confirms Epstein died by suicide while
in custody in his jail cell in Manhattan in twenty nineteen,
quashing the conspiracy theory previously pushed by Patel and his
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deputy Dan Bongino that he was murdered. It was like
a bomb went off after that statement went out, one
senior White House official told the WSJ, and look, I'm sorry,
but I still do not believe for a second that
Jeffrey Epstein killed himself, not the way they're telling us,
Not because he thought he couldn't win the case or
because he was depressed. I don't buy that for a minute,
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and you shouldn't either. Maga's Laura Lumer, an influential voice
in the movement, was among the loudest calling for Bondie's resignation.
After news of the memo broke, Lomer gave the Attorney
general the belittling name Blondie in social media posts on
x and Twitter, Blondie lied, Lumer posted in July, She's
always lying, and look, I'd be lying if I said
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I had this insider information about Laura Lumer or know
much about her. I only know what I've read, and
she seems like an instigator, somebody that is throwing bombs
and trying to instigate things by bringing pressure onto people
and hopes that the pressure campaign will lead to these
people getting canned. Then of course you have some people
out there that say she has a lot more power
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than that, and that she works off the books as
an advisor to President Trump and as a zeer, and
in the age of social media influencers, I wouldn't be
shocked by it. Remember, it's all about the narrative battle.
They're trying to win the narrative. And if they can
win the narrative. They're gonna win the war. Who releases
a statement about the Epstein files on the Sunday night
of fourth of July weekend. She asked her followers, someone
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who doesn't want you paying attention, Well, wouldn't her boss
have something to say about that? You know, Donald Trump?
So we think that Bondi just did this all on
her own. I mean, I guess very possible, but I
have my doubts. Later on, when Trump and his allies
reportedly started ringing around MAGA allies to diffuse the situation,
Lumer was contacted by a White House official who told
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her that Bondi needed to be more careful, but that
Trump had no intention of firing her. The right wing
influencer recalled to the WSJ, So there's somebody feeding them information,
one of these influencers who probably doesn't like Laura Lumer.
Make no mistake, folks, the court intrigue is in full gear,
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and there's a lot of backstabbing and crawling over your
colleagues to try and get where you want to go.
And if you think these people care about each other,
you're crazy. They do not. They care about political gain
and climbing that ladder. White House Chief of Staff Susie
Wiles reportedly said that the FBI and Justice Department memo
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had been a mistake. As the administration faced uproar from
Trump's own base, things that had become so fraught that
Wiles moved to convene a series of Epstein strategy meetings
in the Situation Room, the soul called war room used
to discuss responses to highly sensitive global crisis. Well, what
do you think this is. There's a lot of people
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that still don't understand the full scope of this and
don't understand just how far this rot goes. Vice President
jd Vance led the push for more disclosure, According to
officials familiar with the discussions, Whiles and others argued that
they would never be able to pacify the most rabbit
Epstein conspiracy theorists. The WSJ reports, Look, what does that
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even mean? Like, what's a rabbit conspiracy theorist? Now, not
in general, obviously, I know what it means. I'm talking
about in context, because the big conspiracy here is the
fact that you people continue to hide this shit. That's
the real conspiracy. I mean, unless she's talking about the
people who think dragon men are involved, or that people
are drinking adrenochrome or something like that. But for the
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most part, I think that there's a lot of really
level headed investigation that has taken place when it comes
to Epstein. But one of their favorite tricks is to
conflate everything together and act like everybody's alone. And it's
a very effective strategy for people who only watch mainstream news.
When they hear about Epstein and then they hear about, oh,
the far right or conspiracy theories, people tune out. So
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if you're on the left and you're just learning about
this story, like I've told you a million times, be
mad at the outlets that you follow, Be mad at
the Rachel Maddows, Be mad at the CNNs, Be mad
at the people who told you that this was overblown,
because those people have helped us get to a point
where we are now, where we have to fight tooth
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and nail for every bit of information. When this story
was hot, these people were nowhere to be seen. Now
that the story is safe, quote unquote, they're coming out
of the woodwork like you wouldn't believe. Despite Aid's best efforts,
the Epstein story was not going away. Trump made a
call to Rupert Murdoch from Air Force one in an
attempt to kill a WSJ report published on July seventeenth
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about a fiftieth birthday greeting that the President allegedly sent
Epstein in two thousand and three. The letter, allegedly signed
by Trump, which features a sexually suggestive drawing and a
birthday wish that says, may every day be another wonderful Secret,
was first published by the newspaper and then shared with
members of Congress by the Epstein estate. Trump has repeatedly
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denied writing the letter and denied that a signature on
the document is his. The president ten billion dollar defamation
lawsuit claims that no authentic letter or a drawing exists,
and on his true social account, he called the WSJ's
story of false, malicious, defamatory, fake news article in the
useless rag that it is. Lawyers for the newspaper hit
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back earlier this week and argue that the President's lawsuit
does not include a single plausible allegation that any of
the defendants, which include right wing media mogul Rupert Murdoch
and the newspaper's parent companies, knowingly published false statements about him.
The article's true, lawyers wrote Monday, and the evidence is
publicly available for anyone to see. And even though this
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letter is now public, there is no move to dismiss
the suit. Why not? So that means there is fraud? Okay,
who engaged in fraud? When's the investigation launching into that?
Lawyers for Glenn Maxwell, Epstein's former girlfriend, you mean co
conspirator all around, scuzbag and bipudal serpent? Is that what
you mean? And the only other person charged in connection
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with the financier's crimes reportedly spotted an opportunity. In late
July's rage over the case refused to die down. House
Speaker Mike Johnson had just ground the House of Representatives
to a screeching halt in order to block legislation filed
by GOP Representative Thomas Massey and Democratic Representative Rocana to
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force the release of the Epstein files. In thirty days,
all their maneuvering, all their bullshit, and we're still going
to get the discharge petition. So what did Mike Johnson
accomplish besides burning political capital. Maxwell's current lawyer, David Oscar Marcus,
reportedly reached out to Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche to
make an offer. According to the WSJ, reached out what
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when they were on the golf course together, remember their buddies.
Would the Justice Department want to interview Maxwell and see
what she had to say? Marcus reportedly offered Blanche, who
did not request a pardon or a preferential treatment for
his client. The outlet of reports they took Marcus up
on the offer and question Maxwell for two days. She
said she never saw the president doing anything inappropriate or illegal.
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Transcripts later released by the Justice Department revealed on the
second day of questioning, Maxwell was given breakfast from Chick
fil A. According to the newspaper, Oh isn't that nice?
And furthermore, you're over here coddling somebody who's a known
liar charged with perjury. Then out of the other side
of your mouth, you're yelling and screaming that Comy lied
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to Congress. Well, Glene Maxwell lied too, So if you're
going to be that pissed at Camy, why in the
fuck is Glenn Maxwell getting Chick fil a sandwiches. Maxwell
is currently serving twenty year sentence for her role in
helping Epstein recruit, groom and abuse young girls. About a
week after the interview, the sixty three year old British
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socialite was moved to a minimum security prison camp in Brian, Texas.
The reason behind the move was over concerns for her safety,
according to the WSJ. Meanwhile, the White House debated whether
to release the transcripts and audio of the Maxwell interviews,
believing it could finally end the drama. Imagine really thinking
that who's in charge of this? Whose running point when
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it comes to Epstein? Because whoever it is should be fired.
They released the transcripts on August twenty second, and top
officials were reportedly convinced that the scandal would soon blow over.
On September second, when lawmakers returned from their summer recess,
Massey filed the discharge petition in an attempt to force
a House vote on releasing the files. Conna and Massey
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held a press conference the following day with Epstein's survivors,
who called for the files to be released their entirety.
Trump is reportedly now scrambling to sway three Republican congresswoman
who signed the petition, now that a majority of House
members have signed a measure to force a full floor
vote and look there's gonna be a lot of cajoling,
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and all we can do is hope that these three
people stand strong. And those three are Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert,
and Marjorie Taylor Green. So as long as they stand firm,
this petition's gonna make its way through and it's going
to come up for a vote, and at that point
they're going to be running out of real estate when
it comes to places to hide and not go on
the record with your vote. And really that's what it
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comes down to. Who's interested in justice and who's not.
And according to the votes that Massey says that he's compiled,
we're gonna find out real soon. So like usual, we'll
be here every step of the way. As this story continues,
the mushroom and the cover up continues to grow. All
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