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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
In this episode, we're going to dive right back into
that Palm Beach police report, and to do that, we're
once again picking up with the narrative of Joseph Riccari.
On Friday, February third, two thousand and six, I had
made arrangements to meet with Redacted at the Palm Beach
Police station. At approximately one pm. Redacted and her friend
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Redacted arrived at the police station. During an interview with Redacted,
she stated she met Epstein when she turned eighteen years
old and was brought to Epstein's house to provide a massage.
She advised this occurred on May of two thousand and five.
She advised Hayley Robson had informed her if she wanted
to provide a massage for two hundred dollars. Redacted agreed,
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and she was brought to Epstein's house to provide a massage.
Redacted stated she had been to the house on many
occasions during the massage sessions. Redacted also stated she would
remove her clothing to provide the massage on Epstein. Redacted
advised Epstein would pay her three hundred dollars to rub
his back, legs, and chest. During the massage, Epstein would
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masturbate himself as she rubbed his chest. I asked her
if Epstein ever touched her breast during the massages. Redacted
replied yes. I asked her if Ebstein ever touched or
massaged her vagina. Redacted stated he had on several occasions.
I asked her if he ever penetrated her with either
his penis or any other objects. Redacted stated that during
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a massage, he inserted his fingers in her vagina as
she massaged them. She stated that this occurred one time only.
Redacted stated that the massage would be over when Epstein
would climbax onto a towel. I asked Redacted if she
had any formal massage training, to which she replied that
she did not. Redacted was then asked if she ever
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brought anyone to the house to work. Redacted stated she
brought two people to the house. She advised she received
money for bringing people to the house to work. Redacted
stated she brought a girl named redacted and her friend.
Redacted was still waiting for Redacted in the lobby of
a police station. I think Redacted for her time and
her cooperation and escorted her to the lobby. I asked
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Miss redacted if I could speak with her about this investigation.
I brought her to the interview room and explained to
her that I was conducting an investigation on Jeffrey Epstein
and felt she may have information pertaining to that investigation.
Misredacted identified herself as redacted and resides in Wellington, Florida.
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She advised approximately a year ago, she was brought to
Epstein's house to provide a massage for money. Redacted stated
she needed to make money and she felt it was
a quick way to make some money. Redacted stated she
was brought to the house by redacted and was introduced
to Epstein and as assistant. She was brought to his
main bathroom and provided a massage. I asked her if
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she provided the massage naked. Redacted stated that she did.
She rubbed Epstein's legs back in chest. I asked redacted
if Epstein touched her during the massage. She advised he
did not. However, he did masturbate himself as she rubbed
his chest. Once he climaxed the massage was over, she
was paid her money and left the area. Redacted advised
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it occurred one time and she never returned to Epstein's house.
The interview was concluded and Redacted was escorted to the lobby.
I located a telephone number for redacted and attempted to
contact her on several occasions. I call redacted and spoke
with Misredacted, who advised she would speak with me in
Deerfield Beach, where she resides. Due to a scheduling conflict,
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we were unable to meet. I informed her that I
would contact her to schedule another appointment to speak with
her about this investigation. I have attempted to meet with
her and make telephone contact with negative results. On February thirteenth,
two thousand and six, I met with David Rodgers at
redacted in Lake Worth. Rogers was identified as Epstein's pilot.
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I spoke with Rogers, who advised he has been employed
with Epstein since nineteen ninety one. He flies both planes
for Epstein, depending where he wants to fly to. Rogers
was asked about passengers in the plane he flies. Rogers stated,
unless Epstein flew to his island off of Saint Thomas,
there would be no way of knowing who the passengers were.
I mentioned a recent flight to Ohio where Rogers flew
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to Ohio to pick up ordacted. Rogers stated he recalled
flying on several occasions and did remember redacted. Rogers stated,
once he is in the cockpit, he does not know
who the passengers are. When he prepares the passenger manifest,
he lists Epstein and his assistance he knows by name
Sarah and Adriana. Rogers stated he would list either female
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or male passengers on the manifest only to keep account
of the passengers. Miss Rogers came into the living room
and recommended that her husband consult with an attorney. Mister
Rogers agreed he would speak with the family attorney to
inform him of this questioning. I explained to mister Rogers
that he was not a suspect in the investigation and
sees questions based on the fact that Rogers would not
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advise who passengers were in the plane. I then left
the area. I attempted to locate redacted at redacted in Wellington.
I left my business card for her to return my call.
On February fourteenth, two thousand and six, at twelve oh
six pm, I received a call from misredacted on my voicemail.
Misredacted left her telephone number for a return call. Redacted.
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I left her a message to return call. The investigation continues.
The narrative is still Joseph Raccari. On February fifteenth, two
thousand and six, I may telephone contact with Redacted, who
provided directions to where I could locate her. Detective Cristo
and I responded to redacted in Lake Park to meet
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with redacted. Upon my arrival, I met with redacted in
the parking lot directly behind Mako Auto Painting. She was
advised I was there to speak with her about an
ongoing investigation that concerned Jeffrey Epstein and Palm Beach. Redacted
stated she knows Epstein very well and did not want
to speak with me about mister Epstein. She was very
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fond of Epstein and did not want to speak with
me about anything concerning Jeffrey Epstein. I explained to her
that she was seen at the house and I would
like to speak with her. She stated she knew there
was an investigation and that I had spoken with other
people and therefore I should know what happened at Epstein's house.
Redacted ended the conversation and walked back into her boyfriend's business.
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Blant and automotive Detective Cristo and I left the area
and returned to the police station. The investigation continues. A
grand jury session was requested during the month of February
two thousand and six, in which all the girls that
had been interviewed would have been called to testify before
the grand jury to seek an indictment against Jeffrey Epstein.
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Due to subsequent meetings with the State Attorney's office and
defense attorney Alan Dershowitz, the grand jury was postponed until
at a later time. Dershowitz had provided a package of
material on the main victims in this case, in which
they appear on MySpace dot com to speak about alcohol
use and some marijuana use. The State Attorney's office wanted
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time to review the material. I requested additional subpoenas from
the State's Attorney's office in which I requested information from
Dollar Rental Car and Jet Aviation. The information requested from
Dollar renta Car was for the rented vehicle by Alfredo
Rodriguez while under the employee of Epstein for one of
the victims. The other subpoena requested was for Jet aviation
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for dates and times when Epstein's planes were in Palm
Beach County. I continued to research other names that were
acquired either from interviews or intelligence gathered during the investigation.
I located or redacted in Royal Palm Beach. I responded
to redacted in Royal Palm Beach. During the interview. Redacted
stated that she knew I would be speaking with her.
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Redacted stated she was first introduced to Epstein when she
turned eighteen years old. Redacted stated she was sure of
her age as it was her senior year in high school.
She advised she was brought there to make money and
was told that she would have to provide a massage
to this Palm Beach guy. She remembered she met Epstein
and his assistant Sarah in the kitchen area. She stated
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she was taken by one of her friends, redacted, She stated,
and she went upstairs with Sarah while Epstein got ready
for the massage. He exited his bathroom naked and Redacted
turned around. Epstein asked her if being naked offended her.
Redacted stated it made her uncomfortable. Epstein then put on
a towel and lay on the table. Redacted stated she
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rubbed his back end feet. She stated he had no
massage training or experience. Redacted stated during the massage, Epstein
attempted to touch her buttocks. Redacted pulled away as he
touched her buttocks. She told him again she was uncomfortable
with him touching her. Epstein paid her two hundred dollars
for the massage and told her to leave the house.
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Did never return to the house. She did advise of
one time she went with redacted. However, she waited in
the car for Redacted as she did not want to
go into the house. At the conclusion of the visit
with Epstein, they left the area. Redacted stated she had
heard from other girls that have gone to the house
that Epstein now required them to do the massage naked
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and allow him to touch them in their private areas
for moneies. The interview was concluded as Redacted did not
have any other information to provide. I then learned from
the original victim the defense attorney had learned of her identity.
I spoke with the father of the victim, who stated
there was a private investigator on his house, photographing his
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family and chasing visitors who came to the house. He
provided a Florida license of Redacted. This vehicle is registered
to Ivan Roeblisz of West Palm Beach. Roebliss is a
private investigator in turn, who is licensed by the state.
I informed the State Attorney's Office of the above information.
I receive the grand jury subpoenas to be delivered to
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three victims for a grand jury session to be held
on April eighteenth through April twentieth, two thousand and six.
The investigation continues. The grand jury subpoenas were personally served
to the individuals they were issued to. On April fifth,
two thousand and six, at approximately seven thirty PM, I
personally serve the parents of redacted, who had informed me
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that the private investigators were still photographing the family. On
April tenth, two thousand and six, at approximately two thirty PM,
I serve Redacted at her residence in Royal Palm Beach.
The subpoena was given to her mother. I learned through
one of the victims Redacted, that she was personally contacted
through a source that has maintained contact with Epstein. The
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source ensured her that she would receive monetary compensation for
assistance in not cooperating with law enforcement. Ah also stated
she was told those who help him will be compensated
and those who heard him will be dealt with. I
told her, redacted, that tampering with the witness victim is
an arrestable offense and very serious. I asked her who
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approached her during this encounter. Redacted originally was reluctant to
provide the name of the person who approached her to
offer her not to testify because she felt that they
were still friends. On April eleventh, two thousand and six,
Detective Dawson and I traveled to Tallahassee, Florida, and met
with the victim. Redacted identified redacted white female as the
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person who approached her in Royal Palm Beach while she
was home during spring break in March of two thousand
and six. Redacted also stated she did not want to
pursue the intimidation charges unredacted and was concerned that the
defense attorney was given a copy of the report as
certain things she had told me in confidence were repeated
to her by redacted prior to our departure. The victim
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was given a copy of her subpoena for the grand jury,
which was scheduled to commence April eighteenth, two thousand and six.
Upon our return from Tallahassee, I notified the State Attorney's
Office of what was told to me. I also notified
them that the subpoenas were delivered to the witnesses and
they would be calling for arrangements for the date and
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the time need for the grand jury. I spoke with
Asa Weiss an informed her of the possible intimidation by
the defense. On April thirteenth and April fourteenth, two thousand
and six, I attempted contact on several occasions with Asa
Weiss and Asa Belhovolch to ascertain when the victims needed
to report for grand jury testimony. Messages were left on
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their voicemail. On April seventeenth, two thousand and six, during
the hours of nine am and eleven thirty am, I
again left messages for Asa Weiss and Asa Bellohovich for
either of them to return my call, as I had
not heard from the State Attorney's Office as to the
time and date of the grand jury. All right, folks,
we're gonna wrap up this episode right here, and in
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the next episode, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
All of the information that goes with this episode can
be found in the description box. What's up, everyone, and
welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're
going to dive right back into the Palm Beach police
report and pick up where we left off. And you're
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probably gonna want to get your barf bags ready for
this portion. At approximately twelve thirty PM, I went to
the state Attorney's office and located Asa Weiss and Asa
Bellohov Black in their offices. I entered Asa Bellhovic's office,
who informed me that she was going to return my call.
She explained that an offer was made to the defense
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attorney Guy Fronstein and Attorney Alan Dershowitz. The offer is
one count of aggravated assault with intent to commit a felony,
five years probation with adjudication withheld. Epstein would have to
submit to psychiatric sexual evaluations and no unsupervised visits with miners.
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When asked about all the other victims, Asa Bellohovich stated
that was the only offer made. As too one victim,
Asa bellohovich cell phone rang and went to voicemail. She
checked her voicemail and played the message on speaker. The
caller identified himself as Attorney Guy Fronstein and acknowledged the
deal made between them. Fronstein stated in the message he
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spoke with his client, Jeffrey Epstein and agreed to the deal.
Fronstein asked to call off the grand jury as they
would accept this deal. Bellohovich stated a probable cause would
be needed to book Epstein in the county jail and
would let me know as to when it would be needed.
I explained my disapproval of the deal and not being
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consulted prior to the deal being offered. However, I expressed
that was only my opinion and the final approval would
come from the chief of police. She explained to have
chief writer called Barry Krisher about the deal. I left
the area and returned to the police station, where I
briefed the chief about the deal offered. I checked my
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voicemail messages and discovered a message from redacted stepmother for
the victim redacted. She was calling because the state's attorney's
office still had not returned any of her calls as
to when they are needed for this case. I then
called Asa Bellehovit's office and left messages for her to
call the victims on this case and explain to them
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what the State Attorney's office had done. On April seventeenth,
two thousand and six, at approximately four thirty pm, State
Attorney Investigator Tim Valentine called to officially notify me of
the cancelation of the grand jury. He requested I contact
the victims that had been served to appear to notify
them of the cancelation. I advised Valentine that, as this
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grand jury session was called based on the State Attorney's
decision to have the victims heard by the grand jury,
that I felt it was the State's Attorney's office responsibility
to contact the victims and advise them of the reason
they were no longer needed, as I had not received
any contact from anyone at the State Attorney's office. On
May one, two thousand and six, I prepared three arrest
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warrant requests and submitted them to the State Attorney's office.
The packages were delivered to the Crimes against Children Unit
in care of ASA Lana Bellehovlik. Jeffrey Epstein's arrest warrant
was requested for four counts of unlawful sexual activity with
certain miners and one count of leud and lascivious molestation.
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Sarah Kellen Epstein's assistant arrest warrant request was for four
counts of principle in the first degree on lawful sexual
activity with certain miners and one count of principle in
the first degree loud and lascivious molestation. Hailey Robson's arrest
warrant request was for lud and lascivious acts on a
victim under the age of sixteen. The receipt of delivery
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was signed and brought back to the Record's division at
the Police Department. On May third, two thousand and six,
out approximately two fifty four pm, I received a telephone
call from Asa Dahiel Weiss on my cell phone. ASA
Weiss advised that she had been taken off the Jeffrey
Epstein case because her husband is employed with attorney Jack Goldberger.
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Attorney Goldberger is the attorney of record for Jeffrey Epstein.
His previous attorney, Guy Fronstein, has been fired from representation ASA.
Lana Bellohovic has been assigned the case. ASA Weiss stated
she can no longer speak about the Epstein case with me.
I thank her for her telephone call. Asa Weiss further
stated that Asa Bellohovic would be calling me. And just
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to interject here, you know you got Discantis out here
talking about he wants to do something about Epstein. Well,
all of these people were talking about there are all
people that were working for the state. So why aren't
these people being held to account? Why aren't any of
these people being called out on the carpetative continues with
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Joseph Riccari. On May tenth, two thousand and six, information
was received that Epstein's associate, Leslie Wexner, the Limited Incorporated
CEO's plane had arrived in West Palm Beach, PBIA. The plane,
a gulf Stream four bearing A and nine zero zero
LS registration, was on the tarmac at Galaxy Aviation. As
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Epstein had recently acquired the services of a new attorney,
and the fact that Epstein's house is currently under remodeling,
it was believed that Epstein maybe in Palm Beach. I
conducted physical surveillance at the residence three point fifty eight
Lbrio Way. I observed a large construction crew conducting remodeling
at the house. The contractor, David Nor, was observed driving
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a Ford Explorer white in color. The vehicle has a
Florida registration of F three zero qq F. NOR left
Epstein's house and traveled north on County Road. Detective Coristo
and I conducted surveillance on Nor. Nor traveled to several
constructions side and checked on certain jobs. Surveillance was discontinued
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on Nor and Detective Cristo and I traveled to Galaxy Aviation.
I observed the white plane with a blue stripe along
the body and tail of the plane. The tail number
was visible on the bottom of the tail closer to
the body of the plane. We maintained visual surveillance on
the plane until four fifty seven PM, when a caravan
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of Cadillac Escalades drove onto the tarmac. We observed several
people exit the vehicles and discovered they were part of
the executive team for Limited Incorporated. The executives were in
Palm Beach County for an executive meeting for the day.
They arrived in Palm Beach County on May ninth, two
thousand and six, at nine thirty pm and were scheduled
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to leave on the tenth at five pm. Now, remember
when Les Wexner was telling everybody that he was unaware
of what Epstein was up to Epstein was under investigation
as their having you know, the Victoria's secret limited meeting
in Palm Beach. So save that bullshit and when I
tell you that he's bullshit and you that's what I mean.
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On May twelfth, two thousand and six, I met with
Asa Lana Bellohovic at the State Attorney's office. She explained
that her boss, Parry Krisher, was requesting this case be
taken to the grand jury again. I explained to her
that I had requested arrest warrants for Jeffrey Epstein, Sarah Kellen,
and Haley Robson. I asked that she either issued the
warrants or direct file, as so much time has elapsed
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since the original request to the grand jury. I explained
that the Palm Beach Police Department had concluded the case
in December of two thousand and five and has been
waiting for the case to go forward. Bellohovk stated the
original offer was again offered to the new defense attorney.
She was waiting for their answer, and by Friday, May nineteenth,
two thousand and six, she stated she would advise me
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of that answer. On May twenty second, two thousand and six,
I received several phone calls throughout the day from mister Radakta,
who stated he had been followed aggressively by a private investigator.
Mister Redacted stated that as he drove to and from
work and running errands throughout the county, the same vehicle
was behind him, running other vehicles off the road in
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an attempt not to lose sight of mister Redacted's vehicle.
I explained to him, as mister Epstein had retained new
legal counsel, it was possible it would be a new
private investigator or investigators following him to observe his daily activities.
I also explained to him that there was a meeting
scheduled with Asa Lana Bellohovic and Attorney Jack Goldberger at
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mister Kersher's office scheduled on June first, two thousand and six,
at nine am. I attempted to call Asa Lana Bellohovic
to inform her of the private investigators following mister redacted. However,
she was on her vacation during the week of May
twenty second through May thirtieth, two thousand and six, this
lady was living the life of Riley Huh where while
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girls were getting raped and trafficked and abused on our watch.
She's on another vacation. On May twenty three, two thousand
and six, I received other phone calls from mister and
Missus redacted, who advised that they were able to acquire
the private investigator's license plate information. The subject following them
was again driving very aggressively and caused Missus redacted to
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run off the road. Misredacted stated the vehicle is a
green Chevy Monte Carlo bearing Florida tag redacted. The vehicle
is registered to Zachary Betcherd of Jupiter of Florida. Becherd
is employed by Candor Investigations from Jupiter of Florida. Bechard
is a licensed private investigator in the state of Florida.
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Since the discovery of the threat made against one of
the victims in this case, redacted, I requested subpoena for
all the calls made and received from redacted during the
month of March two thousand and six for her cell
phone and her home phone. I had confirmed with Florida
State University the exact date to spring break for two
thousand and six. The spring break was from March fourth,
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two thousand and six, through March twelfth, two thousand and six,
I received a subpoena from Sprint next Hell with all
calls made during the month of March two thousand and six.
I reviewed the nine hundred and eighty nine calls made
and received during the month of March two thousand and six.
I observed on March seventh, two thousand and six, Redacted
made and received thirty five calls during that day. On
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March seventh, two thousand and six, at eleven oh three am,
Redacted made a call to the victim, which lasted four
hundred and ninety two seconds eight minutes and two seconds.
The victim then returned the call at eleven sixteen am,
which lasted six seconds. The victim then made contact with
redacted at eleven twenty two am for eight hundred and
seventy seven point two seconds fourteen minutes and six seconds.
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These sequence of calls were consistent with what the victim
had described to me on the date of the intimidation.
Immediately after speaking with the victim, Redacted makes a call
to Sarah Kellen Epstein's asist, which lasts for forty eight seconds.
A call is then immediately received a telephone number registered
to a corporation affiliated with Jeffrey Epstein located at four
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fifty seven Madison Avenue in New York. An extensive computer
check revealed four fifty seven Madison Avenue is a business
address in which Epstein has his corporations assigned to. Epstein
had corporation attorney Darren Endyke register the business and register
himself as an agent. I also observed Epstein has his
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el Zorro Ranch Corporation, New York Strategy Group, Glane Corporation,
Jay Epstein in Company, and the Financial Strategy Group registered
to this same address. Finally, a third call is received
by redacted at twelve oh two PM from the same
corporate number, which lasts twelve minutes and one second. It
should be noted that there is no further contact with
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either the victim during the month of March or April
of two thousand and six. I also noted that there
was no further content with Sarah Kellen or Jeffrey Epstein
during the remainder of the month of March or April
two thousand and six. On June first, two thousand and six,
Asa Lana Bellehovich telephoned me to inform me of the
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meeting that occurred with attorney Jack Goldberger in reference to
this case. She advised she would make her determination on
whether to file on this case or not by Monday,
June fifth, two thousand and six. On June twenty ninth,
two thousand and six, I had spoken to ASA Lana Bellohovich,
who informed me that the case would be sent to
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the grand jury for charges. She informed me that the
grand jury would convene on July nineteenth, two thousand and six,
to hear the Epstein case. Bellohovich stated. State Attorney Barry
Krisher made the determination to go to the grand jury
to hear the case. On July twelfth, two thousand and six,
I spoke with misredacted, mother of the victim redacted, who
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inquired about the status of the case. I explained to
her that I was told we would be going to
the grand jerry during the week of July nineteenth, two
thousand and six. She stated she had not been contacted
as of yet by the State Attorney's office for any information.
I provided her with the telephone numbers to the State
Attorney's office. The investigation continues. This is the end of
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the report. So there you have it, folks. The full
palm Beach police report into Jeffrey Epstein's activity, into what
he was up to, according to the official police report
from Palm Beach. So, I think it's important that we
have all of these facts laid out for us, right
and that way it gives us a blueprint and something
to revert back to and take a look at when
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we have any issues that pop up in the case.
So we're going to continue adding these core documents, these
new unredacted, cored documents, and we're going to continue to
do that until we get them all added to the catalog.
That way we all have as much context as possible.
All Right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.
All of the information that goes with this episode can
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