December 29, 2025 • 27 mins
On August 22, 2025, the U.S. Department of Justice released redacted transcripts and audio recordings of a two-day interview it conducted in July with Ghislaine Maxwell, who is serving a 20-year federal prison sentence for her role in Jeffrey Epstein’s sex-trafficking ring. During the interview, Maxwell denied ever seeing any inappropriate behavior by former President Donald Trump, describing him as a “gentleman in all respects,” and insisted she “never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way.” She also rejected the existence of a so-called “client list,” countering years of speculation, and claimed to have no knowledge of blackmail or illicit recordings tied to Epstein.
In addition to defending high-profile figures, Maxwell expressed doubt that Epstein’s death was a suicide, while also rejecting the notion of an elaborate conspiracy or murder plot. The release of the transcripts—handled under the Trump-era Justice Department—has stirred sharp political debate. Trump allies have framed her remarks as vindication, while critics and Epstein’s survivors question her credibility, pointing to her conviction and suggesting her words may be aimed at influencing potential clemency or political favor.
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In addition to defending high-profile figures, Maxwell expressed doubt that Epstein’s death was a suicide, while also rejecting the notion of an elaborate conspiracy or murder plot. The release of the transcripts—handled under the Trump-era Justice Department—has stirred sharp political debate. Trump allies have framed her remarks as vindication, while critics and Epstein’s survivors question her credibility, pointing to her conviction and suggesting her words may be aimed at influencing potential clemency or political favor.
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bobbycapucci@protonmail.com
source:
Interview Transcript - Maxwell 2025.07.24 (Redacted).pdf
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the Glenn Maxwell DOJ transcripts Blanche. So,
when we stopped to take a break, we were talking
about what has been publicly discussed as a black book
or the Epstein List, and that's where we are. And
(00:21):
you said you think you might know or that you're
aware of kind of the origin of this narrative. Maxwell, right,
I just want to reiterate again that there's no list
that I'm aware of. I've never at any time, at
least during the period of time when I was Blanche. Okay,
Maxwell present The origin of this story, I believe begins
(00:42):
or it has the beginning, in two thousand and nine,
and then it has a prequel. But we have to
start in two thousand and nine. In two thousand and nine,
Epstein is I think, out of jail and there are
civil suits taking place. Many of these are coming out
of the disgraced law firm Rostein Adler Rosstein Rosenfeldt and
Adler at that law firm is a lawyer who started
(01:04):
there in April May two thousand and nine. Call Brad
Edwards in two thousand and nine. Allegedly, the FBI gets
a call in October of two thousand and nine from
Brad Edwards and he allegedly tells them that he has
come across a piece of evidence that belongs to Epstein
that contains a list of all his clients and victims
underage girls, massage therapists, and the men who are having
(01:25):
sex with them. And he Brad Edwards becomes a cooperating
witness Saffian confidential Maxwell confidential informant, sorry confidential informant for them,
and in a sting operation, obtains the list from a
former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo Rodriguez, and it becomes
evidence in the civil suit. In the Alfredo Rodriguez is
(01:46):
subsequently prosecuted for having an AK forty seven or something
weird so guns or something and goes to trial, and
they're a criminal complaint that the FBI produced, and in
that criminal complaint it says that Brad Edwards became aware
of the list, but we'll call it the list for
the purposes of this after Alfredo Rodriguez two depositions that
(02:07):
are held in Epstein's civil suit. It's in the FBI's
affid David that the evidence was collected and Brad Edwards
became aware of it after the second deposition. It's in
the criminal complaint. The truth is different from what's in
both the criminal complaint and in the FBI Affid David
and in Brad Edwards's own statements on the subject. The
truth is that Alfredo Rodriguez was deposed twice, once in
(02:30):
July and once in August, and in the July deposition
told Brad Edwards that he had handwritten notes or a
journal whatever in the deposition, and Brad Edwards replies, well,
we're going to come back for a second deposition, and
the second deposition takes place in August. What this means
is that Brad Edwards had access to the list from
some time between July and August into when he actually
(02:53):
called the FBI in October, so we're talking six months
or so. Rostein's firm was rated a few days after
the list went into the FBI's hands, and subsequently Rostein
himself was prosecuted for RICO, and I believe went to
jail for fifty years as part of that RICO case.
He admitted to on the record, I don't know whether
he was prosecuted for creating fake settlements and fake evidence
(03:16):
in Epstein's case in two thousand and nine. Simultaneously, whilst
this was going on, my boyfriend Ted Waite was asked
for ten million dollars to keep me out of any
of Epstein's civil suits. Up until then, I had not
been in any of Epstein's civil suits. In fact, I
wasn't even sure say for the first time I was
mentioned was redacted, I hadn't been. I was basically nowhere.
(03:41):
And then Ted was called for his ten million dollars
and had been shown his people had been shown evidence
that included the list, the flight logs, and various other
pieces of evidence. Now we're going to the prequel part
of this story, so then it can tie how this starts.
In two thousand and seven, Epstein signs the non prosecution agreement.
He then fights the prosecution agreement or debates it through
(04:03):
the DOJ or whatever happened there. What is she a
little Carmine from the Sopranos, your brother Billy, whatever happened there,
and then it goes to court in two thousand and
eight when it's accepted or whatever that is Pilafana was
the lead prosecutor or lead yes in that case, and she,
I think was not happy with the outcome and utilized
at the time Brad Edwards to file the CVR case. Now,
(04:27):
what is what I have managed to understand from this
Within the OPR itself, there is evidence there It says
that Brad Edwards was the only lawyer that she was
allowed to talk to. So I just want to preface
that the reason why I know that she went behind
the Costa's back and everything else to do this is
because Brad Edwards, in a podcast made the revelation. What
(04:49):
he says is that he'd never heard of the CVR
case before and Villa Fanna called him and told them
to file it. The sole purpose of the CVRA was
to overturn the non prosecution agreement. So what I believe
is that Villa Fano worked with Brad Edwards when she
was also the lawyer for what she had selected as
a pro bono lawyer for some of the victims, and
(05:10):
he was also working for the Rostein firm that was
under RICO investigation for the entire time, creating fake evidence
in Epstein's case, and she had just filed hidden secret
using Edwards to overturn the NPA by filing this CVR case.
That sole purpose was to overturn it, and so when
he approached her with the list, this was part of
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the effort to utilize and find new evidence to support
the overturning either of the NPA or a new case
against Epstein because Brad Edwards or I don't know it
was Brad Edwards, because Rostein's firm asked my then boyfriend
for ten million to kick me out of the suits
that I had no knowledge of at the time whatsoever.
(05:53):
I now know that the base of this story was
a blackmail of a billionaire because Ted Waite was a
multi billionaire at everything. He was way way more wealthy
than Epstein, if anyone cares, and that's the reason why
Ted and I broke up. That was the basis of
this blanche so Maxwell and that list was created. The
messuses that were on the list, I have never heard of,
(06:15):
some of them, not even from the civil suits that
had come up since I've seen it, and this is
now knowing what's in the list today Alfredo Rodriguez, So
there's a metamorphois of the list. So the original statement
that Brad Edwards makes that's in the documents contemporaneously, is
that it pieces of paper that Alfredo has. It then
(06:36):
morphs into something that Alfredo took, a book that Alfredo
took from Epstein's computer. But there's no computer I know,
certainly not in two thousand and five when this was
allegedly taken, that came out as a book, and then
it morphed into at the civil time, my civil case,
into a book that was taken from my computer, and
(06:57):
then it morphed into the Southern District of New York
as a common nation list of mine in Epstein's that's
the metamorphosis through documents that you can trace, Blanche, So
in your mind or from what you just described, there
is a list. It's just manufactured, meaning you have seen
the list, even fake like you know, Maxwell, I haven't
(07:17):
seen it, but Blanche I was confused, Maxwell, So I
guess my thing is that what Brad Edwards says in
all these things in the paperwork and whatnot, so all
this story is basically controlled by five people. There's four
alleged victims that speak about the list and the blackmail
and the men and the sex and whatnot, and the
lawyers and now the prosecutor. Sorry, the Southern District of
(07:41):
New York for sure, but no one else. None of
these stories carry from any of the forty four alleged
original victims. They never ever said that they were farmed
out to anybody. Well, yeah, that's because they were for
Epstein's personal enjoyment. The other girls, well that was business, Blanche.
But the list itself, Maxwell, yes, Blanche, where is it? Maxwell?
(08:04):
There is no list, But Brad Edwards said that he
created the list, Blanche. So that's what I was a
little confused about. Maxwell. Sorry, he created a list. So
in the book that Alfred ol Rodriguez produced that became
evidence Exhibit fifty two in my trial has markings all
over it, circles and dots whatnot? Blanche? Uh huh? And
(08:24):
Brad Edwards says, this is Maxwell now that he got
Alfred ol Rodriguez to mark up the book. Of all
the people who are involved. It includes Alan Dershowitz for
the record, who's marked. I don't remember what it does
with Donald Trump. I don't know. You'd have to look.
I don't have it, but I believe she's cut off
by Blanche. I see Maxwell, So what he did he
marked up I don't know who. Somebody marked up that
(08:46):
book of names, and I think all the names of
the people that they went for were originally selected between
two sources. One was this alleged book of names and
one was also from the telephone logs that were collected
from the house and beach. And just to finish it off,
there is I have some papers for you if you
wanted them where Brad Edwards says that he has a
(09:07):
list of twenty five men that he got money off of.
Blanche Okay. So the list that everybody the black book,
the list that you're saying your exhibit fifty two for
your trial, which is like more of an address book,
a rolodex type thing that mister Rodriguez, Alfredo Rodriguez. Your
understanding is that somewhere along the way you went through
and kind of marked that list to say, Maxwell, I
(09:30):
don't know where that book actually comes from. Blanche Okay, Maxwell,
I don't know what that book is. That book is
some type of compilation, but what it is, it's just
pieces of paper with type. So if you had you
could have made the list, it could have been she
gets cut off. But you're referring to something that's been
public for a long time. We're thinking about the same
(09:52):
thing you're talking about. You're right, it's like a bunch
of different types of paper or whatever. I only have
a copy of it, but with big parts of it
wheredakt and publicly because there was people's addresses and whatnot
on it. Maxwell. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell, perfect, Yeah,
you'll find it, Blanche. We're looking at exhibit fifty two now, Maxwell,
(10:13):
So you're looking at exhibit fifty two. So the one
they produced the Southern District of New York actually produced
a book for me to see. It has evidence the
actual thing it was, and it has marks, it has tabs,
it has things, it has names. I've never seen like
that list. That list was basically the names that they
chose to produce a trial. Now, in Rostein's Adler's firm,
(10:37):
I also have some documents where Rostein his original scheme
Rostein Adler, was to play prostitutes. He had a bar,
a dance bar where he had girls, and I believe
he would use them and put them as fake secretaries
in people's offices and then she might touch them or
might touch her or something and boom, he got twenty
five g's for that. And those girls. I'm not saying
(10:58):
that those are the girls that came in Epstein's case necessarily,
but Blanche, again, so we're separating the evidence that came
in at your trial and what you just talked about
with Brad Edwards and mister Rodriguez. During the time that
you were with mister Epstein, and even in the two
thousands when you were around less frequently, you never observed
or you never saw any sort of list or black
(11:20):
book or a list of individuals who you know linked
to certain messuses or Maxwell. Absolutely no, Blanche, anything like that. Maxwell,
absolutely no. There is no list that I'm aware of,
and there's no blackmail. I never heard of that. I
never saw it, and I never imagined it. Blanche. While
(11:40):
we're on the topic, and again, I know we're jumping
around and we've been going on it for a while,
so I apologize. But there's recent reports about a birthday
book that you assemble for mister Epstein, I think for
his fiftieth birthday in two thousand and three. Maxwell, that's true, Blanche,
what will you know about that? Maxwell? Well, so my
mom did a birthday book for my father at his sixtieth.
(12:03):
And when Epstein would talk about his fiftieth, he said,
I don't know what I'm going to do, and I said, well,
these are nice things. My mom did this book for
my dad. He said, I love that idea. He said,
can you help coordinate it? And he called a lot
of people himself. I coordinated putting together of the book,
and some instances I call people that asked them to contribute, Blanche,
(12:26):
And what was in the book? Like, what was the
ask of the people you called Glenn Maxwell? It's his
fiftieth birthday, Say anything you want on a piece of paper, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell,
I mean nothing more than that, Blanche, right. I mean
it was an obvious question, but you basically his folks
were invited to send something to you to celebrate his birthday. Maxwell, Yeah,
(12:48):
to say happy birthday with like have a wonderful day
or something else. There was no no one to ask.
But I wasn't responsible for everything in that book, and
there were people that he would ask himself to contribute, Blanche,
And do you remember do you remember specific names of
individuals who did send letters or who did contribute Maxwell,
(13:08):
it's been a long time. I want to tell you,
but I don't remember Blanche, do you, Maxwell? I honestly
don't remember Blanche. The article talks about several names, but
including the folks. The article which is on Donald Trump.
Do you remember President Trump submitting a letter or a
card or a note? Maxwell? I don't, Blanche? Do you
(13:30):
think the articles? Do you remember seeing that book or
any portion of the letters in your discovery in New York? Maxwell? Yes, Blanche,
what do you remember? Maxwell? I remember there were some
portions of that book, but what surprised me. What surprised
me was how few there were, because I thought, if
you had those, where are the rest? There were none
(13:51):
for mister Trump, mister Blanche in your discovery, Maxwell, Oh,
in my discovery, Sorry, President Trump, there was nothing from
President Trump, Blanche. And do you remember, but separate and
apart from your discovery, do you remember, one way or
the other whether President Trump submitted a letter for his
fiftieth birthday? Maxwell? I don't remember. And the article that
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references the letter talks like sounds like either a naked
picture of a naked woman. Do you have recollection of that? Maxwell?
I do not, But no I don't. Blanche. Do you
remember seeing from your discovery around the book, like you said,
portions of it or some of the pages. What do
you remember, Maxwell? I remember there was maybe just I
(14:36):
want to say about discovery that I had about Maybe
this is an exaggeration. I'm not sure, but in my mind,
it's close to five million pages, five million documents. It
was a lot. End of that giant document dump that
I received. I was only maybe as much as thirty
to thirty five percent. I was never able to access.
(14:57):
And this is documented at court, and so I cannot
say that I saw everything because I didn't. Blanche, Okay, Maxwell,
I just want you to know that, and I think
that was by design, Blanche. But you remember, I do
remember some pages, Blanche seeing some pages of the book, Maxwell,
I do, yes, Blanche, Okay, do you remember what pages
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you saw, like who had written those letters or no? Maxwell,
I really don't remember. I'm sorry, Blanche, it's okay, it's okay.
So the same questions as before. Did you meet Bill
Gates over the years, Glanne Maxwell? Yes, all right. We're
gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode
(15:38):
dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
left off. All of the information that goes with this
episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
this week, we left off with the Glenn Maxwell DOJ transcript. Blanche, Okay,
have you ever met Bill Gates over the year? Maxwell, Yes, Blanche,
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because of your relationship with mister Epstein or separate, Maxwell, Well,
I met mister Gates. I went to the TED conference.
I went to the TED conference, and I actually spoke
at the TED conference, not the main stage, the sub stage.
And I also gave several TED ex's. But I met
him there. But we were friendly, and I actually did
(16:22):
meet him because I knew. I don't know if he
was chief of staff or whoever Boris and I met him.
I think once. I may have met him actually at
seventy first Street. I may have once. I don't remember.
If I met him there or at a restaurant, I
don't remember. And that would have been because Epstein, because
Epstein was friendly with Boris and Boris that's all I remember, Blanche.
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Do you know whether mister Gates traveled with mister Epstein
on his plane to any of his houses? Maxwell. So
if that that's the friendship was after you know, I
was in the late two thousands, So if I met him,
like I said, I went to Epstein's house maybe once
or twice, maybe met him there. I don't remember, Blanche,
So you don't remember Maxwell, So I wouldn't know if
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he had been to Epstein's plane. Blanche, you don't recall
ever being on the plane with him, flying to the
island or anywhere. Maxwell, No, Blanche. Do you know somebody
named Reid Hoffman? Maxwell? I do, Blanche. Who's that Maxwell
reads a Silicon Valley guy, Blanche? Is what Maxwell? A
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Silicon Valley guy, Blanche? And how do you know him? Maxwell?
Through my friends in San Francisco. I used to have
a very close friend who was in San Francisco. Who's
part of that whole? Well? Actually I have several or had, Blanche.
So is that a relationship you had kind of separate
apart from mister Epstein Maxwell separate, Blanche? Do you know
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whether mister Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman Maxwell?
I don't know, Blanche. Did you ever observe mister Hoffman
flying anywhere with you or mister Epstein? Maxwell? No, Blanche
getting a massage. Maxwell, No, Blanche, there's a list of
multiple messuses that is floating around. I think you had
(18:09):
in your discovery. I think you were just thinking about
that that list. Do you know how that list was created? Maxwell,
All that stuff that came out of that book, I
now find suspect Blanche as part of the story you
just told. Maxwell. Yeah, Now, I'm not saying it's all fake.
I don't know what's real and what's not. I don't
(18:30):
Blanche understood, Maxwell, I know that name is true. Now
what it's been to my mind anyway, now that it
has been, without a doubt contaminated and possibly fraudulent, I
don't know. I mean, obviously the numbers that I recognize
are my own, those are real, but how it actually
ended up put together and compiled and the purpose for it,
(18:52):
for which then they blackmailed my boyfriend. Now, just know, Blanche,
over the years when you were serving as like the
general manager to the mid nineties all the way into
the two thousands, did you or do you know whether
anyone maintained a list of all the messuses like a
running list, Maxwell, So there would have been there's two things,
(19:14):
well three ways. So I know that the house itself,
John Alessi had a rolodex that he kept the names
and numbers of all the people that came to the
house so that he could call because I only was
with Epstein even at best half the time. So when
I was there, he had like his chief of staff
who could find whatever he needed. And when I wasn't there,
(19:35):
he had to rely on somebody else, right, So it
had been that John Alessi or whoever else, So everybody
whoever was traveling with him or wherever he was, he
needed somebody else to access information. So he had an
assistant chief who was his secretary, who would you know,
be the one who would update his computer, you know,
like everybody has an address book, Blanche. But that's what
(19:59):
you're described. It makes sense. I'm just that was a
list of messuses or a list of people that might
need to be contacted, which would necessarily include a lot
of massuses. Maxwell, that's the latter, Blanche. And did you
update that? Like were you part? Were you one of
the people that would add names to it? Like if
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a massus came and leaves and mister Epstein says, yes,
she was good, would you be part like how how
was the list kind of maintained or who maintained it Maxwell?
Typically no, Blanche, no Maxwell, because there would be an
assistant who would do that. Plus Epstein would not allow
me to answer the telephone ever, so to maintain or
(20:40):
to keep any of his messages in the office or
at the house. So typically that wouldn't be because I
wouldn't be the one. Could I say to you I
never did it? No, of course, not because that just
seems ludicrous. But as a rule of thumb, the answer
would be no. During the two thousand and seven eight
nine in investigation, the investigation, the investigation out of the
(21:03):
Southern District of Florida. So you said that you weren't
contacted by law enforcement Maxwell, I was not, Blanche. After
mister Epstein was charged, did you have a conversation with
him about the investigation? Maxwell? He never talked to me
about it, Blanche. Did you he's cut off by Maxwell?
I mean, I can't, let's put it this way. If
(21:24):
he did, I have no recollection of it. I mean,
I'm sure he must have said this is all whatever
he said, or it's nothing or whatever. I mean, I
just don't have any I just don't have any memory
I was with Ted, I was like, gone, I mean, plus,
I just didn't want to know either, I suppose Blanche.
So you don't know firsthand by or why the US
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attorney in Florida made the deal that he did, meaning
you aren't part of that discussion along the way, Like
mister Epstein didn't say I'm getting a good deal, or
you know, something is happening with the case that's very
good to the extent you know anything about it, it's
just from what you've heard or read from others, not
from mister Epstein. Is that right? Maxwell? He never talked
(22:07):
about the non prosecution directly with me, No, but he
did David Marcus. But it's still enforceable as to her, Maxwell,
I mean, he never said, hey, are you happy with
the deal like that? But I understood he never enjoined
me to the NPA. But I understand that he included
me specifically. And I'll tell you why. Marcus, Well, it's okay,
(22:28):
you don't need to get into that. Of course she doesn't. Huh.
This whole entire thing is such a goddamn jerk off.
I can't even believe if people read this and were like, oh,
you know what we have the clarity we need, because
that's certainly not what this provides. Blanche. Yeah, I don't
want to talk about the legal or what's on appeal. Maxwell, Well,
(22:50):
I wasn't Blanche the reason for my question. I'm not
trying to hide something, but there's a very strong belief
that he got a very good deal and that he
should she he should have been sentenced to more time
or got a different sentence from the Feds than a
non prosecution agreement. And I'm not asking you to opine
on that, but I'm wondering whether he ever talked to
(23:12):
you about that. But it sounds like he didn't maxwell
that he got a good deal. No, I think actually
well as comments that I've read was that he didn't
think he got a good deal. And I think that
you know, when he fought it's so hard, it's because
he didn't think he did, Blanche, when he was serving
a sentence, were you around during that time, like when
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he was allowed to leave during the day or travel
during the day, Maxwell, I never called him, I never
saw him, and I never went to the jail, Blanche.
So I'm going to ask you some questions that you
shouldn't read into them. I just want to know whether
you whether they resonate with you. Have you ever had
any contact with any representative that you know of from ASAD,
(23:54):
the Israeli intelligence agency? Maxwell? Can you ask me that again?
Have you ever ever have been in contact with an
individual that you understand to be from MASAD, an Israeli
intelligence agency? Maxwell? Will not deliberately, Blanche? Pardon me, Maxwell,
not deliberately, Blanche. Okay, And did you know we talked
(24:15):
about this a little bit earlier, but just to put
a finer point on it, did you ever know that
mister Epstein Were you ever told did you ever think
that mister Epstein was getting any money from any intelligence agency,
including MASAD? Maxwell? Well, I don't believe so, but I
wouldn't know. I mean, I would be very surprised if
he did. I don't think so, No, Blanche. We've talked
(24:38):
a lot about names, and I'm sure that there's some
that we haven't covered. Are there any foreign nationals right
now that we've talked about? Some British the royal family
a little bit, and maybe high society folks in Britain.
Were there any international businessmen or politicians that had a
very close relationship or close relationship with mister Epstein that
(24:59):
we haven't talked to about already. Off the top of
my head, I can think about Ehud Barack. Blanche. You
said that mister Epstein at some point in the mid
to late nineties he started taking testosterone. Did you ever
know him to take any other drugs? Maxwell? No, I
mean he took pills for his heart I think, but
I don't know no other substances. Do you know anything
(25:21):
about his heart condition? I know we talked about this,
you know, nine forty five this morning, But do you
know anything about his heart condition beyond what you understood
that he had a heart condition that affected his ability
to have sex? Maxwell, other than what he told me. No,
he never shared anything. But he did take pills. I
don't know. I don't know anything above that. Like I said,
(25:44):
he did the testosterone, which made him mean, Blanche, And
we're jumping around a little bit. Maxwell. Sorry, Blanche, Sorry.
Do you know someone named Donald Barr Maxwell? No, Blanche,
I can represent to you he was former headmaster of
the school which you mentioned earlier. Maxwell, All right, Blanche,
(26:04):
do you remember any conversation with Epstein about a book
that mister Barr wrote called the space relations Maxwell, I
never heard of that, Blanche, about aliens and sex Maxwell, No, Blanche,
do you know whether, well, have you ever met with
former Attorney General of the United States Bill Barr? Maxwell, no, Blanche.
(26:25):
Do you remember whether mister Epstein knew him or whether
his name ever came up in conversations you had with
mister Epstein? Glam Maxwell, I don't recall any Blanche. Okay,
did you have a relationship or no? I'm using a relationship,
but I appreciate you don't like the word. Did you
know of mister Epstein's brother Mark Epstein? Maxwell, yes, Blanche.
(26:46):
How did you know him? Maxwell? Through Epstein? Blanche? How
would you describe your relationship close? Friendly, Maxwell, my personal Blanche, Yes, Maxwell,
not that close, but friendly enough. I mean, you know, Blanche.
How was Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with his brother Mark from
what you observed, Maxwell, I mean they were brother Lee,
(27:08):
but I think I don't know. I don't know. They
had periods when they were closer than when they weren't.
I think sometimes Epstein found his brother irritating, Blanche. And
I think I know the answer is given what you
just said about Bill Barr. But did you ever hear
from mister Epstein or anybody else that Bill Barr had
any role in mister Epstein getting a good plead deal
(27:30):
in Florida or any role in the process with mister Acosta.
Glenn Maxwell, I never heard that. All right, folks, we're
gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up from where
we left off. All of the information that goes with
this episode can be found in the description box.
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
left off with the Glenn Maxwell DOJ transcripts Blanche. So,
when we stopped to take a break, we were talking
about what has been publicly discussed as a black book
or the Epstein List, and that's where we are. And
(00:21):
you said you think you might know or that you're
aware of kind of the origin of this narrative. Maxwell, right,
I just want to reiterate again that there's no list
that I'm aware of. I've never at any time, at
least during the period of time when I was Blanche. Okay,
Maxwell present The origin of this story, I believe begins
(00:42):
or it has the beginning, in two thousand and nine,
and then it has a prequel. But we have to
start in two thousand and nine. In two thousand and nine,
Epstein is I think, out of jail and there are
civil suits taking place. Many of these are coming out
of the disgraced law firm Rostein Adler Rosstein Rosenfeldt and
Adler at that law firm is a lawyer who started
(01:04):
there in April May two thousand and nine. Call Brad
Edwards in two thousand and nine. Allegedly, the FBI gets
a call in October of two thousand and nine from
Brad Edwards and he allegedly tells them that he has
come across a piece of evidence that belongs to Epstein
that contains a list of all his clients and victims
underage girls, massage therapists, and the men who are having
(01:25):
sex with them. And he Brad Edwards becomes a cooperating
witness Saffian confidential Maxwell confidential informant, sorry confidential informant for them,
and in a sting operation, obtains the list from a
former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo Rodriguez, and it becomes
evidence in the civil suit. In the Alfredo Rodriguez is
(01:46):
subsequently prosecuted for having an AK forty seven or something
weird so guns or something and goes to trial, and
they're a criminal complaint that the FBI produced, and in
that criminal complaint it says that Brad Edwards became aware
of the list, but we'll call it the list for
the purposes of this after Alfredo Rodriguez two depositions that
(02:07):
are held in Epstein's civil suit. It's in the FBI's
affid David that the evidence was collected and Brad Edwards
became aware of it after the second deposition. It's in
the criminal complaint. The truth is different from what's in
both the criminal complaint and in the FBI Affid David
and in Brad Edwards's own statements on the subject. The
truth is that Alfredo Rodriguez was deposed twice, once in
(02:30):
July and once in August, and in the July deposition
told Brad Edwards that he had handwritten notes or a
journal whatever in the deposition, and Brad Edwards replies, well,
we're going to come back for a second deposition, and
the second deposition takes place in August. What this means
is that Brad Edwards had access to the list from
some time between July and August into when he actually
(02:53):
called the FBI in October, so we're talking six months
or so. Rostein's firm was rated a few days after
the list went into the FBI's hands, and subsequently Rostein
himself was prosecuted for RICO, and I believe went to
jail for fifty years as part of that RICO case.
He admitted to on the record, I don't know whether
he was prosecuted for creating fake settlements and fake evidence
(03:16):
in Epstein's case in two thousand and nine. Simultaneously, whilst
this was going on, my boyfriend Ted Waite was asked
for ten million dollars to keep me out of any
of Epstein's civil suits. Up until then, I had not
been in any of Epstein's civil suits. In fact, I
wasn't even sure say for the first time I was
mentioned was redacted, I hadn't been. I was basically nowhere.
(03:41):
And then Ted was called for his ten million dollars
and had been shown his people had been shown evidence
that included the list, the flight logs, and various other
pieces of evidence. Now we're going to the prequel part
of this story, so then it can tie how this starts.
In two thousand and seven, Epstein signs the non prosecution agreement.
He then fights the prosecution agreement or debates it through
(04:03):
the DOJ or whatever happened there. What is she a
little Carmine from the Sopranos, your brother Billy, whatever happened there,
and then it goes to court in two thousand and
eight when it's accepted or whatever that is Pilafana was
the lead prosecutor or lead yes in that case, and she,
I think was not happy with the outcome and utilized
at the time Brad Edwards to file the CVR case. Now,
(04:27):
what is what I have managed to understand from this
Within the OPR itself, there is evidence there It says
that Brad Edwards was the only lawyer that she was
allowed to talk to. So I just want to preface
that the reason why I know that she went behind
the Costa's back and everything else to do this is
because Brad Edwards, in a podcast made the revelation. What
(04:49):
he says is that he'd never heard of the CVR
case before and Villa Fanna called him and told them
to file it. The sole purpose of the CVRA was
to overturn the non prosecution agreement. So what I believe
is that Villa Fano worked with Brad Edwards when she
was also the lawyer for what she had selected as
a pro bono lawyer for some of the victims, and
(05:10):
he was also working for the Rostein firm that was
under RICO investigation for the entire time, creating fake evidence
in Epstein's case, and she had just filed hidden secret
using Edwards to overturn the NPA by filing this CVR case.
That sole purpose was to overturn it, and so when
he approached her with the list, this was part of
(05:32):
the effort to utilize and find new evidence to support
the overturning either of the NPA or a new case
against Epstein because Brad Edwards or I don't know it
was Brad Edwards, because Rostein's firm asked my then boyfriend
for ten million to kick me out of the suits
that I had no knowledge of at the time whatsoever.
(05:53):
I now know that the base of this story was
a blackmail of a billionaire because Ted Waite was a
multi billionaire at everything. He was way way more wealthy
than Epstein, if anyone cares, and that's the reason why
Ted and I broke up. That was the basis of
this blanche so Maxwell and that list was created. The
messuses that were on the list, I have never heard of,
(06:15):
some of them, not even from the civil suits that
had come up since I've seen it, and this is
now knowing what's in the list today Alfredo Rodriguez, So
there's a metamorphois of the list. So the original statement
that Brad Edwards makes that's in the documents contemporaneously, is
that it pieces of paper that Alfredo has. It then
(06:36):
morphs into something that Alfredo took, a book that Alfredo
took from Epstein's computer. But there's no computer I know,
certainly not in two thousand and five when this was
allegedly taken, that came out as a book, and then
it morphed into at the civil time, my civil case,
into a book that was taken from my computer, and
(06:57):
then it morphed into the Southern District of New York
as a common nation list of mine in Epstein's that's
the metamorphosis through documents that you can trace, Blanche, So
in your mind or from what you just described, there
is a list. It's just manufactured, meaning you have seen
the list, even fake like you know, Maxwell, I haven't
(07:17):
seen it, but Blanche I was confused, Maxwell, So I
guess my thing is that what Brad Edwards says in
all these things in the paperwork and whatnot, so all
this story is basically controlled by five people. There's four
alleged victims that speak about the list and the blackmail
and the men and the sex and whatnot, and the
lawyers and now the prosecutor. Sorry, the Southern District of
(07:41):
New York for sure, but no one else. None of
these stories carry from any of the forty four alleged
original victims. They never ever said that they were farmed
out to anybody. Well, yeah, that's because they were for
Epstein's personal enjoyment. The other girls, well that was business, Blanche.
But the list itself, Maxwell, yes, Blanche, where is it? Maxwell?
(08:04):
There is no list, But Brad Edwards said that he
created the list, Blanche. So that's what I was a
little confused about. Maxwell. Sorry, he created a list. So
in the book that Alfred ol Rodriguez produced that became
evidence Exhibit fifty two in my trial has markings all
over it, circles and dots whatnot? Blanche? Uh huh? And
(08:24):
Brad Edwards says, this is Maxwell now that he got
Alfred ol Rodriguez to mark up the book. Of all
the people who are involved. It includes Alan Dershowitz for
the record, who's marked. I don't remember what it does
with Donald Trump. I don't know. You'd have to look.
I don't have it, but I believe she's cut off
by Blanche. I see Maxwell, So what he did he
marked up I don't know who. Somebody marked up that
(08:46):
book of names, and I think all the names of
the people that they went for were originally selected between
two sources. One was this alleged book of names and
one was also from the telephone logs that were collected
from the house and beach. And just to finish it off,
there is I have some papers for you if you
wanted them where Brad Edwards says that he has a
(09:07):
list of twenty five men that he got money off of.
Blanche Okay. So the list that everybody the black book,
the list that you're saying your exhibit fifty two for
your trial, which is like more of an address book,
a rolodex type thing that mister Rodriguez, Alfredo Rodriguez. Your
understanding is that somewhere along the way you went through
and kind of marked that list to say, Maxwell, I
(09:30):
don't know where that book actually comes from. Blanche Okay, Maxwell,
I don't know what that book is. That book is
some type of compilation, but what it is, it's just
pieces of paper with type. So if you had you
could have made the list, it could have been she
gets cut off. But you're referring to something that's been
public for a long time. We're thinking about the same
(09:52):
thing you're talking about. You're right, it's like a bunch
of different types of paper or whatever. I only have
a copy of it, but with big parts of it
wheredakt and publicly because there was people's addresses and whatnot
on it. Maxwell. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell, perfect, Yeah,
you'll find it, Blanche. We're looking at exhibit fifty two now, Maxwell,
(10:13):
So you're looking at exhibit fifty two. So the one
they produced the Southern District of New York actually produced
a book for me to see. It has evidence the
actual thing it was, and it has marks, it has tabs,
it has things, it has names. I've never seen like
that list. That list was basically the names that they
chose to produce a trial. Now, in Rostein's Adler's firm,
(10:37):
I also have some documents where Rostein his original scheme
Rostein Adler, was to play prostitutes. He had a bar,
a dance bar where he had girls, and I believe
he would use them and put them as fake secretaries
in people's offices and then she might touch them or
might touch her or something and boom, he got twenty
five g's for that. And those girls. I'm not saying
(10:58):
that those are the girls that came in Epstein's case necessarily,
but Blanche, again, so we're separating the evidence that came
in at your trial and what you just talked about
with Brad Edwards and mister Rodriguez. During the time that
you were with mister Epstein, and even in the two
thousands when you were around less frequently, you never observed
or you never saw any sort of list or black
(11:20):
book or a list of individuals who you know linked
to certain messuses or Maxwell. Absolutely no, Blanche, anything like that. Maxwell,
absolutely no. There is no list that I'm aware of,
and there's no blackmail. I never heard of that. I
never saw it, and I never imagined it. Blanche. While
(11:40):
we're on the topic, and again, I know we're jumping
around and we've been going on it for a while,
so I apologize. But there's recent reports about a birthday
book that you assemble for mister Epstein, I think for
his fiftieth birthday in two thousand and three. Maxwell, that's true, Blanche,
what will you know about that? Maxwell? Well, so my
mom did a birthday book for my father at his sixtieth.
(12:03):
And when Epstein would talk about his fiftieth, he said,
I don't know what I'm going to do, and I said, well,
these are nice things. My mom did this book for
my dad. He said, I love that idea. He said,
can you help coordinate it? And he called a lot
of people himself. I coordinated putting together of the book,
and some instances I call people that asked them to contribute, Blanche,
(12:26):
And what was in the book? Like, what was the
ask of the people you called Glenn Maxwell? It's his
fiftieth birthday, Say anything you want on a piece of paper, Blanche, Okay, Maxwell,
I mean nothing more than that, Blanche, right. I mean
it was an obvious question, but you basically his folks
were invited to send something to you to celebrate his birthday. Maxwell, Yeah,
(12:48):
to say happy birthday with like have a wonderful day
or something else. There was no no one to ask.
But I wasn't responsible for everything in that book, and
there were people that he would ask himself to contribute, Blanche,
And do you remember do you remember specific names of
individuals who did send letters or who did contribute Maxwell,
(13:08):
it's been a long time. I want to tell you,
but I don't remember Blanche, do you, Maxwell? I honestly
don't remember Blanche. The article talks about several names, but
including the folks. The article which is on Donald Trump.
Do you remember President Trump submitting a letter or a
card or a note? Maxwell? I don't, Blanche? Do you
(13:30):
think the articles? Do you remember seeing that book or
any portion of the letters in your discovery in New York? Maxwell? Yes, Blanche,
what do you remember? Maxwell? I remember there were some
portions of that book, but what surprised me. What surprised
me was how few there were, because I thought, if
you had those, where are the rest? There were none
(13:51):
for mister Trump, mister Blanche in your discovery, Maxwell, Oh,
in my discovery, Sorry, President Trump, there was nothing from
President Trump, Blanche. And do you remember, but separate and
apart from your discovery, do you remember, one way or
the other whether President Trump submitted a letter for his
fiftieth birthday? Maxwell? I don't remember. And the article that
(14:12):
references the letter talks like sounds like either a naked
picture of a naked woman. Do you have recollection of that? Maxwell?
I do not, But no I don't. Blanche. Do you
remember seeing from your discovery around the book, like you said,
portions of it or some of the pages. What do
you remember, Maxwell? I remember there was maybe just I
(14:36):
want to say about discovery that I had about Maybe
this is an exaggeration. I'm not sure, but in my mind,
it's close to five million pages, five million documents. It
was a lot. End of that giant document dump that
I received. I was only maybe as much as thirty
to thirty five percent. I was never able to access.
(14:57):
And this is documented at court, and so I cannot
say that I saw everything because I didn't. Blanche, Okay, Maxwell,
I just want you to know that, and I think
that was by design, Blanche. But you remember, I do
remember some pages, Blanche seeing some pages of the book, Maxwell,
I do, yes, Blanche, Okay, do you remember what pages
(15:18):
you saw, like who had written those letters or no? Maxwell,
I really don't remember. I'm sorry, Blanche, it's okay, it's okay.
So the same questions as before. Did you meet Bill
Gates over the years, Glanne Maxwell? Yes, all right. We're
gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode
(15:38):
dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we
left off. All of the information that goes with this
episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone,
and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
this week, we left off with the Glenn Maxwell DOJ transcript. Blanche, Okay,
have you ever met Bill Gates over the year? Maxwell, Yes, Blanche,
(16:02):
because of your relationship with mister Epstein or separate, Maxwell, Well,
I met mister Gates. I went to the TED conference.
I went to the TED conference, and I actually spoke
at the TED conference, not the main stage, the sub stage.
And I also gave several TED ex's. But I met
him there. But we were friendly, and I actually did
(16:22):
meet him because I knew. I don't know if he
was chief of staff or whoever Boris and I met him.
I think once. I may have met him actually at
seventy first Street. I may have once. I don't remember.
If I met him there or at a restaurant, I
don't remember. And that would have been because Epstein, because
Epstein was friendly with Boris and Boris that's all I remember, Blanche.
(16:44):
Do you know whether mister Gates traveled with mister Epstein
on his plane to any of his houses? Maxwell. So
if that that's the friendship was after you know, I
was in the late two thousands, So if I met him,
like I said, I went to Epstein's house maybe once
or twice, maybe met him there. I don't remember, Blanche,
So you don't remember Maxwell, So I wouldn't know if
(17:06):
he had been to Epstein's plane. Blanche, you don't recall
ever being on the plane with him, flying to the
island or anywhere. Maxwell, No, Blanche. Do you know somebody
named Reid Hoffman? Maxwell? I do, Blanche. Who's that Maxwell
reads a Silicon Valley guy, Blanche? Is what Maxwell? A
(17:26):
Silicon Valley guy, Blanche? And how do you know him? Maxwell?
Through my friends in San Francisco. I used to have
a very close friend who was in San Francisco. Who's
part of that whole? Well? Actually I have several or had, Blanche.
So is that a relationship you had kind of separate
apart from mister Epstein Maxwell separate, Blanche? Do you know
(17:49):
whether mister Epstein had a relationship with Reid Hoffman Maxwell?
I don't know, Blanche. Did you ever observe mister Hoffman
flying anywhere with you or mister Epstein? Maxwell? No, Blanche
getting a massage. Maxwell, No, Blanche, there's a list of
multiple messuses that is floating around. I think you had
(18:09):
in your discovery. I think you were just thinking about
that that list. Do you know how that list was created? Maxwell,
All that stuff that came out of that book, I
now find suspect Blanche as part of the story you
just told. Maxwell. Yeah, Now, I'm not saying it's all fake.
I don't know what's real and what's not. I don't
(18:30):
Blanche understood, Maxwell, I know that name is true. Now
what it's been to my mind anyway, now that it
has been, without a doubt contaminated and possibly fraudulent, I
don't know. I mean, obviously the numbers that I recognize
are my own, those are real, but how it actually
ended up put together and compiled and the purpose for it,
(18:52):
for which then they blackmailed my boyfriend. Now, just know, Blanche,
over the years when you were serving as like the
general manager to the mid nineties all the way into
the two thousands, did you or do you know whether
anyone maintained a list of all the messuses like a
running list, Maxwell, So there would have been there's two things,
(19:14):
well three ways. So I know that the house itself,
John Alessi had a rolodex that he kept the names
and numbers of all the people that came to the
house so that he could call because I only was
with Epstein even at best half the time. So when
I was there, he had like his chief of staff
who could find whatever he needed. And when I wasn't there,
(19:35):
he had to rely on somebody else, right, So it
had been that John Alessi or whoever else, So everybody
whoever was traveling with him or wherever he was, he
needed somebody else to access information. So he had an
assistant chief who was his secretary, who would you know,
be the one who would update his computer, you know,
like everybody has an address book, Blanche. But that's what
(19:59):
you're described. It makes sense. I'm just that was a
list of messuses or a list of people that might
need to be contacted, which would necessarily include a lot
of massuses. Maxwell, that's the latter, Blanche. And did you
update that? Like were you part? Were you one of
the people that would add names to it? Like if
(20:19):
a massus came and leaves and mister Epstein says, yes,
she was good, would you be part like how how
was the list kind of maintained or who maintained it Maxwell?
Typically no, Blanche, no Maxwell, because there would be an
assistant who would do that. Plus Epstein would not allow
me to answer the telephone ever, so to maintain or
(20:40):
to keep any of his messages in the office or
at the house. So typically that wouldn't be because I
wouldn't be the one. Could I say to you I
never did it? No, of course, not because that just
seems ludicrous. But as a rule of thumb, the answer
would be no. During the two thousand and seven eight
nine in investigation, the investigation, the investigation out of the
(21:03):
Southern District of Florida. So you said that you weren't
contacted by law enforcement Maxwell, I was not, Blanche. After
mister Epstein was charged, did you have a conversation with
him about the investigation? Maxwell? He never talked to me
about it, Blanche. Did you he's cut off by Maxwell?
I mean, I can't, let's put it this way. If
(21:24):
he did, I have no recollection of it. I mean,
I'm sure he must have said this is all whatever
he said, or it's nothing or whatever. I mean, I
just don't have any I just don't have any memory
I was with Ted, I was like, gone, I mean, plus,
I just didn't want to know either, I suppose Blanche.
So you don't know firsthand by or why the US
(21:46):
attorney in Florida made the deal that he did, meaning
you aren't part of that discussion along the way, Like
mister Epstein didn't say I'm getting a good deal, or
you know, something is happening with the case that's very
good to the extent you know anything about it, it's
just from what you've heard or read from others, not
from mister Epstein. Is that right? Maxwell? He never talked
(22:07):
about the non prosecution directly with me, No, but he
did David Marcus. But it's still enforceable as to her, Maxwell,
I mean, he never said, hey, are you happy with
the deal like that? But I understood he never enjoined
me to the NPA. But I understand that he included
me specifically. And I'll tell you why. Marcus, Well, it's okay,
(22:28):
you don't need to get into that. Of course she doesn't. Huh.
This whole entire thing is such a goddamn jerk off.
I can't even believe if people read this and were like, oh,
you know what we have the clarity we need, because
that's certainly not what this provides. Blanche. Yeah, I don't
want to talk about the legal or what's on appeal. Maxwell, Well,
(22:50):
I wasn't Blanche the reason for my question. I'm not
trying to hide something, but there's a very strong belief
that he got a very good deal and that he
should she he should have been sentenced to more time
or got a different sentence from the Feds than a
non prosecution agreement. And I'm not asking you to opine
on that, but I'm wondering whether he ever talked to
(23:12):
you about that. But it sounds like he didn't maxwell
that he got a good deal. No, I think actually
well as comments that I've read was that he didn't
think he got a good deal. And I think that
you know, when he fought it's so hard, it's because
he didn't think he did, Blanche, when he was serving
a sentence, were you around during that time, like when
(23:33):
he was allowed to leave during the day or travel
during the day, Maxwell, I never called him, I never
saw him, and I never went to the jail, Blanche.
So I'm going to ask you some questions that you
shouldn't read into them. I just want to know whether
you whether they resonate with you. Have you ever had
any contact with any representative that you know of from ASAD,
(23:54):
the Israeli intelligence agency? Maxwell? Can you ask me that again?
Have you ever ever have been in contact with an
individual that you understand to be from MASAD, an Israeli
intelligence agency? Maxwell? Will not deliberately, Blanche? Pardon me, Maxwell,
not deliberately, Blanche. Okay, And did you know we talked
(24:15):
about this a little bit earlier, but just to put
a finer point on it, did you ever know that
mister Epstein Were you ever told did you ever think
that mister Epstein was getting any money from any intelligence agency,
including MASAD? Maxwell? Well, I don't believe so, but I
wouldn't know. I mean, I would be very surprised if
he did. I don't think so, No, Blanche. We've talked
(24:38):
a lot about names, and I'm sure that there's some
that we haven't covered. Are there any foreign nationals right
now that we've talked about? Some British the royal family
a little bit, and maybe high society folks in Britain.
Were there any international businessmen or politicians that had a
very close relationship or close relationship with mister Epstein that
(24:59):
we haven't talked to about already. Off the top of
my head, I can think about Ehud Barack. Blanche. You
said that mister Epstein at some point in the mid
to late nineties he started taking testosterone. Did you ever
know him to take any other drugs? Maxwell? No, I
mean he took pills for his heart I think, but
I don't know no other substances. Do you know anything
(25:21):
about his heart condition? I know we talked about this,
you know, nine forty five this morning, But do you
know anything about his heart condition beyond what you understood
that he had a heart condition that affected his ability
to have sex? Maxwell, other than what he told me. No,
he never shared anything. But he did take pills. I
don't know. I don't know anything above that. Like I said,
(25:44):
he did the testosterone, which made him mean, Blanche, And
we're jumping around a little bit. Maxwell. Sorry, Blanche, Sorry.
Do you know someone named Donald Barr Maxwell? No, Blanche,
I can represent to you he was former headmaster of
the school which you mentioned earlier. Maxwell, All right, Blanche,
(26:04):
do you remember any conversation with Epstein about a book
that mister Barr wrote called the space relations Maxwell, I
never heard of that, Blanche, about aliens and sex Maxwell, No, Blanche,
do you know whether, well, have you ever met with
former Attorney General of the United States Bill Barr? Maxwell, no, Blanche.
(26:25):
Do you remember whether mister Epstein knew him or whether
his name ever came up in conversations you had with
mister Epstein? Glam Maxwell, I don't recall any Blanche. Okay,
did you have a relationship or no? I'm using a relationship,
but I appreciate you don't like the word. Did you
know of mister Epstein's brother Mark Epstein? Maxwell, yes, Blanche.
(26:46):
How did you know him? Maxwell? Through Epstein? Blanche? How
would you describe your relationship close? Friendly, Maxwell, my personal Blanche, Yes, Maxwell,
not that close, but friendly enough. I mean, you know, Blanche.
How was Jeffrey Epstein's relationship with his brother Mark from
what you observed, Maxwell, I mean they were brother Lee,
(27:08):
but I think I don't know. I don't know. They
had periods when they were closer than when they weren't.
I think sometimes Epstein found his brother irritating, Blanche. And
I think I know the answer is given what you
just said about Bill Barr. But did you ever hear
from mister Epstein or anybody else that Bill Barr had
any role in mister Epstein getting a good plead deal
(27:30):
in Florida or any role in the process with mister Acosta.
Glenn Maxwell, I never heard that. All right, folks, we're
gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up from where
we left off. All of the information that goes with
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.