October 16, 2025 • 13 mins
Prince Andrew hired PR consultant Jason Stein in 2019 to help repair his public image following mounting scrutiny over his friendship with Jeffrey Epstein. Stein, a former communications advisor for prominent British politicians, was brought on to manage crisis messaging and prepare the Duke for upcoming interviews and media appearances. However, within just 28 days of being hired, Stein abruptly left the role. Reports suggest he clashed with Andrew’s private secretary and that his professional advice—particularly his warning against doing the now-infamous BBC Newsnight interview—was ignored. His departure reflected a deep dysfunction inside Andrew’s inner circle, where strategy and ego collided in spectacular fashion.
The PR fallout from that failed collaboration became one of the most catastrophic in royal history. Against Stein’s judgment, Andrew proceeded with the Newsnight interview, which was intended to clear his name but instead destroyed his reputation. The televised appearance led to his suspension from royal duties and a wave of public outrage. Stein’s quick exit, just 28 days into his tenure, symbolized how unmanageable the prince’s crisis had become—and how no communications expert could salvage his self-inflicted collapse.
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The PR fallout from that failed collaboration became one of the most catastrophic in royal history. Against Stein’s judgment, Andrew proceeded with the Newsnight interview, which was intended to clear his name but instead destroyed his reputation. The televised appearance led to his suspension from royal duties and a wave of public outrage. Stein’s quick exit, just 28 days into his tenure, symbolized how unmanageable the prince’s crisis had become—and how no communications expert could salvage his self-inflicted collapse.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Daily Drop. What we have is another article about our
good friend Prince Andrew. It's about the spin doctor that
he hired that quit twenty eight days into his new gig. Now,
why would the spin doctor do that? Well, In my
personal opinion, it's because he saw the evidence, He saw
everything that's going on, and he realizes that this is
(00:21):
a no win case. He's not going to be able
to reform the Prince's image. He's not going to be
able to rebrand him. He's not going to be able
to do anything like that. The Prince is a lost
cause at this point. The only recourse that the Prince
has to save his image at this point is to
come forward and talk about what he knows. No more
can statements, no more hiding behind mommy's skirts. Time to
(00:46):
stand up, be a man and face the music. If
you were involved in this, and you did this, you
need to pay the price. All right, let's hop into
the article. Prince Andrew may have received a major blow
to his effort to rehabilitate his reputation as he continues
to be to be publicly blasted for his friendship with
convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Jason Stein, the Master spin doctor,
(01:10):
hired a month ago to craft Andrews communication strategy and
to repair his damaged reputation, has already quit. The Daily
Mail reported over the weekend there was no reason given
for the sudden departure of Stein, who was only twenty eight,
but who was labeled a master of the dark arts
and strategic messaging during times of crisis and scandal. According
to a Laine Lieu of Laney Gossip. Before being employed, however,
(01:34):
briefly excuse me. Before being employed, however, briefly as Andrews
communications secretary, he had worked for Amber rud a Conservative
former MP and British Home Secretary. The Sun reported, so
why would he quit? Right? Why would he quit? This
is a super high profile gig for this dude, probably
making big bank. Another person that bels out why friend
(02:01):
simply told The Dally Mail that Stein no longer worked
for the Duke of York and was set to start
a new job. The Daily Mail said Stein's abrupt departure
will be seen as a further blow to the Prince,
while Lou reported Monday that his leaving should be a
big story, at least as much as when the tabloids
make a fuss about a staff member quitting the employee
of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Yeah, you would think, frankly,
(02:24):
who cares about Meghan Markle and Harry? Nobody should care?
But yet here we are. Look, look, look, look, look, look,
it's obvious that Prince Andrew is up to no good.
All right, this dude is neck deep in this Epstein conspiracy,
(02:46):
neck deep in the cover up, right, the cover up.
This dude is definitely a villain in this story. I
hate to say it, but this guy is a villain.
Not all printers are good. Geoffrey wasn't good right Game
of Thrones? Geoffrey wi a good prince. So this is,
you know, a grown up version of Joffrey. I guess
(03:07):
isn't it fair to at least wonder if the situation
with Andrew is so bad that even a master of
the dark arts can't spin it in a positive direction.
Lou wrote, how bad could it be if a pr
expert specializing in scandal has to walk away Bingoh? Right,
like I just said, that's exactly it. If a guy
like this is cutting dodge and cutting bait and bouncing
(03:27):
on a huge, high profile case like this, imagine on
his resume. He could put this on his resume. If
he could rebrand Prince Andrew and make Prince Andrew have
a more positive public persona. Imagine what that would do
for this man's career. You're telling me he doesn't want
to do that. No, it's because he can't do that.
Nobody can do that, not God himself, not Mohammed, not Jesus,
(03:51):
not the Buddha, nobody. Okay. The only way Prince Andrew
can clear his name is to be honest about what happened.
Stand tall. But like the rest of them, he won't.
He'll hide behind cant statements. He'll hide behind you know,
the Queen, He'll hind behind his royal blood. He'll hide
(04:13):
behind Oh, I would never do that. Well, we don't
believe you. I'm sorry, we do not believe you. It's
up to you to show that evidence to us. Okay,
it's not us up to It's not up to us to, uh,
you know, to say to you, all right, well, yeah,
(04:33):
you're right, you haven't shown us any evidence, but we
believe you. We don't believe Virginia Jeoffrey. I'm sorry, but
this show, this platform is certainly the wrong place for that.
You've been credibly accused, my man, and too many times
have credibly accused powerful people gotten away with it. Not
this time, not anymore. The power of media and not
(04:58):
the legacy media, the power of gorilla media. What we're
doing here, these podcasts, independent journalists, media outlets, they're the
ones that are gonna hold people to account. Now. The
fourth of State has failed us, so other people need
to slide in and pick up the slack. And that's
where us as a group come in, not just me,
but all of us. Right. Andrew currently is in Bangkok, Thailand. Oh,
(05:22):
that's a great place for a child molester of far
excuse me an alleged child molester Bangkok. Yeah, because nothing
bad ever he's gotten into Bangkok. I mean, how tone
def do you have to be? Good? God? No wonder
the spin doctor quit. Might as well say he's hanging
out down on Revolution Boulevard and Tijuana. Andrew currently is
(05:47):
in Bangkok, Thailand, where he spoke at the Ashan Business
and Investment Summit in twenty nineteen Sunday on the need
to provide entrepreneurial opportunities for young people. The Bangkok Post
reported during the Bangkok that Andrew also met with members
of ty Royalty. The Sun reported in early October that
Stein had been hired and that he would report directly
(06:08):
to Andrew's private secretary rather than to the Buckingham Palace's
press office. All right, now, this next paragraph is important.
We've talked about this and this is the perfect way
to describe what the efforts to discredit Jeffrees's claims are
with the pictures and whatnot. Stein's friends now, Stein, remember,
(06:30):
is the man who just quit the pr men. Stein's
friends insisted to The Daily Mail that he had no
role in the recent pathetic Stein's friends use the word
pathetic efforts by Andrew's friends to downplay as Epstein connections
or to discredit a woman who has accused him of
having sex with her when she was one of Epstein's
underage sex slaves. As Lou wrote, these efforts have included
(06:53):
claiming that two notorious Epstein related photos of Andrew had
either been faked or manipulated. Be Yes, we've won over
that The pictures are there for all of you guys
to check out when you go to the descriptions. Just
take a look for yourself, and I'm sure some of
you out there are really good with photoshop, much better
than I am. And you could look for yourself and
you could see that there's no way that those have
(07:14):
been altered. Stein's friends said he had no involvement in
the fake pictures claim. The Daily News Mail reported, so
Stein believes it's important enough that his surrogates report that
he does not have anything to do with those claims.
So what does that tell you about Prince Andrew's claims? Right?
(07:35):
We can't take those clients and those claims seriously. I mean,
come on, there's no way that those pictures are falsified.
Since Epstein's August tenth death by reported suicide, Andrew has
faced intensified scrutiny over his friendship with the disgraced multimillionaire
financier who had been jailed in Manhattan on new federal
(07:58):
sex trafficking charges. Virginia Roberts Jeoffrey thirty five, also has
renewed her allegations that Epstein Has and his alleged madam,
Gislaine Maxwell, forced her to have sex with Andrew three
times in two thousand and one when she was seventeen.
As part of those allegations, a notorious photo of Andrew
has circulated. The image shows the Duke with his arm
(08:20):
around Jeoffrey on the night in London in two thousand
and one when she said they had sex. Andrew's friends
initially attempted the so called chubby fingers defense. They said,
the photo with Geoffrey must be fake because Andrew's fingers
in real life are chubbier than those in the photo.
So what are we gonna call it? Sausage gate? Sausage fingergate,
little fat stubby finger, Guy fat stubby finger, hansy Andy.
(08:45):
Come on, It's the most ridiculous, absolutely ludicrous defense I
have ever heard. More recently, Andrew's friends told The Sunday
Times on October twenty seventh that they had hired a
forensic expert to show that this two thousand and one
photo was faked. A forensic expert. Huh oh, yeah, okay,
(09:08):
The friends said. The forensic expert would also show that
a December twenty ten photo of Andrew and Epstein walking
together in New York Central Park had been set up
by Epstein himself. We know that's bs because we heard
from the photographer already and a journalist that was with
him from that other article I read. So again, we
(09:29):
see why these daily drops are so important. One article
leaves something out, but another article adds it. So what
you do is you have a bunch of breadcrumbs and
tidbits from all over these different articles, and it's up
to you to put the pieces together. And what the
media relies on is you being too busy in your
regular life trying to put food on the table, provide
for your family, pay for all the crazy taxes they
(09:50):
throw on us, to pay attention to what they're doing,
to really look at the nuts and bolts, and to
throw the curtain back and say, what in the bleep
are you people doing. That's what they're depending on. But
that ship is sailed now. Now they've went after something sacred.
They've went after the children. They've won after poor girls
like Virginia Geoffrey, and they've completely destroyed their lives. It's unacceptable.
(10:19):
It's not going to occur. We're not going to let
let it occur. We're going to continuously pound on this subject,
pound on people like Andrew until somebody does something about it.
The financier was hosting Andrew at his Manhattan mansion for
several days in December twenty ten. Apparently hoping that his
(10:41):
connection to British royalty would burnish his reputation. Huh huh.
Wasn't that with the Dubans as well? Interesting how all
these people, all these real rich people, supposedly elite and
smart people who want to tell us about everything and
how we should live our lives from their ivory towers,
are too stupid to realize that they're being duped by
(11:02):
a pedophile. Think about that for a minute, folks. The
next time you open up an article and one of
these rich, famous people are telling us how to live
our lives, think about what they do when their doors
are closed. Think about what sort of deviousness they're involved in.
Pretty sick? Isn't it pretty sick to think that these
(11:23):
are the people that are making the rules that we
have to live by. Oh, not them. They don't have
to live by the rules, but we do. And their
puppets in Congress in the Senate continuously continue to change
the rules for them in their favor. And meanwhile, here
we are, every day, strapping on our boots, going to work,
doing our best to provide for our families and to
(11:44):
stay on the right path and to avoid the federal
government at all costs because they don't. They've never created
anything good. All right, it's the two tier justice system
is completely and utterly broken. It must be fixed. Epstein
(12:07):
was first investigated in the mid two thousands for sex
trafficking and ended up serving a controversial thirteen month county
jail term after pleading guilties to soliciting sex from a minor.
Andrew's friends put forward the argument in The Sunday Times
that Andrew was the victim of an elaborate setup in
which Epstein arranged to have the Central Park photo taken
in order to boost his image. They have also said
(12:29):
that Andrew only traveled to New York in December twenty
ten to meet with Epstein in person to formally end
their friendship. All Right, we went over this at nauseum.
At this point, nobody's flying across the ocean to end
a friendship with anybody else. Okay, not unless you're romantically involved,
which if they are, that's fine, whatever, Come out and
(12:49):
say that. But if not, what did he have on you?
Why did you come back? Did you come because he
told you you better come back? Or I'm going to
release so and so for one thing, If Andrew wanted
to deliver a breakup message to Epstein personally. Multiple news
reports show that he dragged things out for nearly a week.
He did so while evidently enjoying the multimillionaires financiers no
(13:13):
excuse me, enjoying the pedophiles lavish hospitality. In addition to
Epstein taking Andrew on that Central Park walk, the financier
also reportedly organized an intimate dinner with the New York
with New York media stars to honor the Duke and
arrange for the Duke to receive foot massages from two
attractive young Russian women. All right, they what did we
(13:34):
talk about earlier in the Glenn dubin Closer Look? What
it was? Massage's code word for sex? Right? Ah, well,
I wonder what sort of massages Handy Andy is talking
about
Daily Drop. What we have is another article about our
good friend Prince Andrew. It's about the spin doctor that
he hired that quit twenty eight days into his new gig. Now,
why would the spin doctor do that? Well, In my
personal opinion, it's because he saw the evidence, He saw
everything that's going on, and he realizes that this is
(00:21):
a no win case. He's not going to be able
to reform the Prince's image. He's not going to be
able to rebrand him. He's not going to be able
to do anything like that. The Prince is a lost
cause at this point. The only recourse that the Prince
has to save his image at this point is to
come forward and talk about what he knows. No more
can statements, no more hiding behind mommy's skirts. Time to
(00:46):
stand up, be a man and face the music. If
you were involved in this, and you did this, you
need to pay the price. All right, let's hop into
the article. Prince Andrew may have received a major blow
to his effort to rehabilitate his reputation as he continues
to be to be publicly blasted for his friendship with
convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Jason Stein, the Master spin doctor,
(01:10):
hired a month ago to craft Andrews communication strategy and
to repair his damaged reputation, has already quit. The Daily
Mail reported over the weekend there was no reason given
for the sudden departure of Stein, who was only twenty eight,
but who was labeled a master of the dark arts
and strategic messaging during times of crisis and scandal. According
to a Laine Lieu of Laney Gossip. Before being employed, however,
(01:34):
briefly excuse me. Before being employed, however, briefly as Andrews
communications secretary, he had worked for Amber rud a Conservative
former MP and British Home Secretary. The Sun reported, so
why would he quit? Right? Why would he quit? This
is a super high profile gig for this dude, probably
making big bank. Another person that bels out why friend
(02:01):
simply told The Dally Mail that Stein no longer worked
for the Duke of York and was set to start
a new job. The Daily Mail said Stein's abrupt departure
will be seen as a further blow to the Prince,
while Lou reported Monday that his leaving should be a
big story, at least as much as when the tabloids
make a fuss about a staff member quitting the employee
of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. Yeah, you would think, frankly,
(02:24):
who cares about Meghan Markle and Harry? Nobody should care?
But yet here we are. Look, look, look, look, look, look,
it's obvious that Prince Andrew is up to no good.
All right, this dude is neck deep in this Epstein conspiracy,
(02:46):
neck deep in the cover up, right, the cover up.
This dude is definitely a villain in this story. I
hate to say it, but this guy is a villain.
Not all printers are good. Geoffrey wasn't good right Game
of Thrones? Geoffrey wi a good prince. So this is,
you know, a grown up version of Joffrey. I guess
(03:07):
isn't it fair to at least wonder if the situation
with Andrew is so bad that even a master of
the dark arts can't spin it in a positive direction.
Lou wrote, how bad could it be if a pr
expert specializing in scandal has to walk away Bingoh? Right,
like I just said, that's exactly it. If a guy
like this is cutting dodge and cutting bait and bouncing
(03:27):
on a huge, high profile case like this, imagine on
his resume. He could put this on his resume. If
he could rebrand Prince Andrew and make Prince Andrew have
a more positive public persona. Imagine what that would do
for this man's career. You're telling me he doesn't want
to do that. No, it's because he can't do that.
Nobody can do that, not God himself, not Mohammed, not Jesus,
(03:51):
not the Buddha, nobody. Okay. The only way Prince Andrew
can clear his name is to be honest about what happened.
Stand tall. But like the rest of them, he won't.
He'll hide behind cant statements. He'll hide behind you know,
the Queen, He'll hind behind his royal blood. He'll hide
(04:13):
behind Oh, I would never do that. Well, we don't
believe you. I'm sorry, we do not believe you. It's
up to you to show that evidence to us. Okay,
it's not us up to It's not up to us to, uh,
you know, to say to you, all right, well, yeah,
(04:33):
you're right, you haven't shown us any evidence, but we
believe you. We don't believe Virginia Jeoffrey. I'm sorry, but
this show, this platform is certainly the wrong place for that.
You've been credibly accused, my man, and too many times
have credibly accused powerful people gotten away with it. Not
this time, not anymore. The power of media and not
(04:58):
the legacy media, the power of gorilla media. What we're
doing here, these podcasts, independent journalists, media outlets, they're the
ones that are gonna hold people to account. Now. The
fourth of State has failed us, so other people need
to slide in and pick up the slack. And that's
where us as a group come in, not just me,
but all of us. Right. Andrew currently is in Bangkok, Thailand. Oh,
(05:22):
that's a great place for a child molester of far
excuse me an alleged child molester Bangkok. Yeah, because nothing
bad ever he's gotten into Bangkok. I mean, how tone
def do you have to be? Good? God? No wonder
the spin doctor quit. Might as well say he's hanging
out down on Revolution Boulevard and Tijuana. Andrew currently is
(05:47):
in Bangkok, Thailand, where he spoke at the Ashan Business
and Investment Summit in twenty nineteen Sunday on the need
to provide entrepreneurial opportunities for young people. The Bangkok Post
reported during the Bangkok that Andrew also met with members
of ty Royalty. The Sun reported in early October that
Stein had been hired and that he would report directly
(06:08):
to Andrew's private secretary rather than to the Buckingham Palace's
press office. All right, now, this next paragraph is important.
We've talked about this and this is the perfect way
to describe what the efforts to discredit Jeffrees's claims are
with the pictures and whatnot. Stein's friends now, Stein, remember,
(06:30):
is the man who just quit the pr men. Stein's
friends insisted to The Daily Mail that he had no
role in the recent pathetic Stein's friends use the word
pathetic efforts by Andrew's friends to downplay as Epstein connections
or to discredit a woman who has accused him of
having sex with her when she was one of Epstein's
underage sex slaves. As Lou wrote, these efforts have included
(06:53):
claiming that two notorious Epstein related photos of Andrew had
either been faked or manipulated. Be Yes, we've won over
that The pictures are there for all of you guys
to check out when you go to the descriptions. Just
take a look for yourself, and I'm sure some of
you out there are really good with photoshop, much better
than I am. And you could look for yourself and
you could see that there's no way that those have
(07:14):
been altered. Stein's friends said he had no involvement in
the fake pictures claim. The Daily News Mail reported, so
Stein believes it's important enough that his surrogates report that
he does not have anything to do with those claims.
So what does that tell you about Prince Andrew's claims? Right?
(07:35):
We can't take those clients and those claims seriously. I mean,
come on, there's no way that those pictures are falsified.
Since Epstein's August tenth death by reported suicide, Andrew has
faced intensified scrutiny over his friendship with the disgraced multimillionaire
financier who had been jailed in Manhattan on new federal
(07:58):
sex trafficking charges. Virginia Roberts Jeoffrey thirty five, also has
renewed her allegations that Epstein Has and his alleged madam,
Gislaine Maxwell, forced her to have sex with Andrew three
times in two thousand and one when she was seventeen.
As part of those allegations, a notorious photo of Andrew
has circulated. The image shows the Duke with his arm
(08:20):
around Jeoffrey on the night in London in two thousand
and one when she said they had sex. Andrew's friends
initially attempted the so called chubby fingers defense. They said,
the photo with Geoffrey must be fake because Andrew's fingers
in real life are chubbier than those in the photo.
So what are we gonna call it? Sausage gate? Sausage fingergate,
little fat stubby finger, Guy fat stubby finger, hansy Andy.
(08:45):
Come on, It's the most ridiculous, absolutely ludicrous defense I
have ever heard. More recently, Andrew's friends told The Sunday
Times on October twenty seventh that they had hired a
forensic expert to show that this two thousand and one
photo was faked. A forensic expert. Huh oh, yeah, okay,
(09:08):
The friends said. The forensic expert would also show that
a December twenty ten photo of Andrew and Epstein walking
together in New York Central Park had been set up
by Epstein himself. We know that's bs because we heard
from the photographer already and a journalist that was with
him from that other article I read. So again, we
(09:29):
see why these daily drops are so important. One article
leaves something out, but another article adds it. So what
you do is you have a bunch of breadcrumbs and
tidbits from all over these different articles, and it's up
to you to put the pieces together. And what the
media relies on is you being too busy in your
regular life trying to put food on the table, provide
for your family, pay for all the crazy taxes they
(09:50):
throw on us, to pay attention to what they're doing,
to really look at the nuts and bolts, and to
throw the curtain back and say, what in the bleep
are you people doing. That's what they're depending on. But
that ship is sailed now. Now they've went after something sacred.
They've went after the children. They've won after poor girls
like Virginia Geoffrey, and they've completely destroyed their lives. It's unacceptable.
(10:19):
It's not going to occur. We're not going to let
let it occur. We're going to continuously pound on this subject,
pound on people like Andrew until somebody does something about it.
The financier was hosting Andrew at his Manhattan mansion for
several days in December twenty ten. Apparently hoping that his
(10:41):
connection to British royalty would burnish his reputation. Huh huh.
Wasn't that with the Dubans as well? Interesting how all
these people, all these real rich people, supposedly elite and
smart people who want to tell us about everything and
how we should live our lives from their ivory towers,
are too stupid to realize that they're being duped by
(11:02):
a pedophile. Think about that for a minute, folks. The
next time you open up an article and one of
these rich, famous people are telling us how to live
our lives, think about what they do when their doors
are closed. Think about what sort of deviousness they're involved in.
Pretty sick? Isn't it pretty sick to think that these
(11:23):
are the people that are making the rules that we
have to live by. Oh, not them. They don't have
to live by the rules, but we do. And their
puppets in Congress in the Senate continuously continue to change
the rules for them in their favor. And meanwhile, here
we are, every day, strapping on our boots, going to work,
doing our best to provide for our families and to
(11:44):
stay on the right path and to avoid the federal
government at all costs because they don't. They've never created
anything good. All right, it's the two tier justice system
is completely and utterly broken. It must be fixed. Epstein
(12:07):
was first investigated in the mid two thousands for sex
trafficking and ended up serving a controversial thirteen month county
jail term after pleading guilties to soliciting sex from a minor.
Andrew's friends put forward the argument in The Sunday Times
that Andrew was the victim of an elaborate setup in
which Epstein arranged to have the Central Park photo taken
in order to boost his image. They have also said
(12:29):
that Andrew only traveled to New York in December twenty
ten to meet with Epstein in person to formally end
their friendship. All Right, we went over this at nauseum.
At this point, nobody's flying across the ocean to end
a friendship with anybody else. Okay, not unless you're romantically involved,
which if they are, that's fine, whatever, Come out and
(12:49):
say that. But if not, what did he have on you?
Why did you come back? Did you come because he
told you you better come back? Or I'm going to
release so and so for one thing, If Andrew wanted
to deliver a breakup message to Epstein personally. Multiple news
reports show that he dragged things out for nearly a week.
He did so while evidently enjoying the multimillionaires financiers no
(13:13):
excuse me, enjoying the pedophiles lavish hospitality. In addition to
Epstein taking Andrew on that Central Park walk, the financier
also reportedly organized an intimate dinner with the New York
with New York media stars to honor the Duke and
arrange for the Duke to receive foot massages from two
attractive young Russian women. All right, they what did we
(13:34):
talk about earlier in the Glenn dubin Closer Look? What
it was? Massage's code word for sex? Right? Ah, well,
I wonder what sort of massages Handy Andy is talking
about
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