October 14, 2025 • 25 mins
Prince Andrew’s downfall reached a breaking point in November 2019, when he announced he would step back from public duties amid mounting outrage over his friendship with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. The decision followed his catastrophic Newsnight interview, where his evasive and tone-deaf answers about Epstein—and his bizarre claim that he “didn’t sweat”—sparked widespread condemnation. Within days, sponsors, charities, and military groups began severing ties, forcing Buckingham Palace to intervene. In a rare move, the Queen personally authorized Andrew’s withdrawal “for the foreseeable future,” signaling that his presence had become untenable for the monarchy. The announcement was not voluntary in any real sense—it was damage control. Behind palace doors, senior royals, including Prince Charles and Prince William, reportedly pushed for Andrew’s exile from public life to protect the institution’s credibility.
Following his resignation from royal duties, Andrew’s titles and roles began to collapse one by one. He lost dozens of patronages, was stripped of his honorary military appointments, and in 2022 was barred from using the title “His Royal Highness” in any official capacity. His attempt at a quiet comeback has repeatedly failed, with public opinion remaining overwhelmingly hostile. Even within the royal family, his isolation is near total—he no longer represents the Crown, and his appearances are limited to private family events. The man once dubbed “Air Miles Andy” for his globetrotting lifestyle is now a symbol of disgrace, his fall serving as one of the most dramatic implosions in modern royal history.
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Following his resignation from royal duties, Andrew’s titles and roles began to collapse one by one. He lost dozens of patronages, was stripped of his honorary military appointments, and in 2022 was barred from using the title “His Royal Highness” in any official capacity. His attempt at a quiet comeback has repeatedly failed, with public opinion remaining overwhelmingly hostile. Even within the royal family, his isolation is near total—he no longer represents the Crown, and his appearances are limited to private family events. The man once dubbed “Air Miles Andy” for his globetrotting lifestyle is now a symbol of disgrace, his fall serving as one of the most dramatic implosions in modern royal history.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everybody knows about the disastrous interview that Prince Andrew gave recently.
Everybody knows that it was an absolute and utter train wreck.
What nobody expected was this Prince Andrew is being forced
forced to step away from public life. So that is
(00:22):
the first dominoda fall, folks, in this whole entire dissorted
game that they're playing. The first big dominode to go
now while it's left is for him to speak under oath,
which he supposedly said he's willing to do, so the
FBI needs to get out there. They need to get
him under oath. They need to talk to him and
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either a he needs to be cleared of charges or
B he needs to face justice at the very least,
though at the very least for his enabling of Jeffrey Epstein,
for his cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein, he is going to
live the rest of his life in utter and absolute disgrace.
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And Folks, a lot of that has to do with
your dog ed chasing of this right, keeping up on it,
calling your senators, etc. And making sure it stays in
the news, sharing all the information about this case. If
it wasn't for the public interest in this case and
for the public outcry, we wouldn't even be at this point.
Nobody ever thought that this Prince would be stepping down
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in disgrace like this. Everyone figured they'd close the ranks
and they'd protect them like they always do. Well, not
this time, because, like I said earlier, a million times earlier,
the straw that breaks the camel's back is hurting children,
all right, And if you were involved in that, you're
as big of a scumbag as Epstein. If you enabled it,
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you're just as bad. If you kept your mouth shut,
you're enabling it, you're just as bad. So I think
this is a fantastic first step for him to step
back and be forced to step back by the Queen.
Let's jump into this article and see what the Daily Mail,
who has been a pretty good source of this Andrew
stuff for the whole duration, has to say. Prince Andrew
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cast out how distraught Duke of York was summoned the
Buckingham Palace by Queen and Prince Charles and told to
step down from royal life amid fallout from his friendship
with pedophile financier Jeffrey Ebstein. Prince Andrew was forced to
quit royal duties last night, after a dramatic intervention by
the Queen and the Prince of Wales, they took decisive
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action to contain the fallout from the Duke's disastrous TV
interview about his friendship with a pedophile billionaire. The interview
triggered days of catastrophic headlines and caused a string of
businesses and charities to desert him. Following lengthy discussions with Charles,
who was touring New Zealand, the Queen summoned Andrew to
Buckingham Palace and told him to step down. So the
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Queen and the future King got together and they forced
Andrew out.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Done.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
See you, You're not allowed in public life anymore. You're
living in disgrace.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Here's a statement by His Royal Highness, the Duke of York.
It has become clear to me over the last few
days that the circumstances relating to my former association with
Jeffrey Epstein has become a major disruption to my family's
work and the valuable work going on in the many
organizations and charities that I am proud to support. Therefore,
(03:35):
I have asked Her Majesty if I may step back
from public duties for the foreseeable future, and she has
given her permission. Nah, I don't think you asked for permission.
I think she told you, sonny boy. I continue to
unequivocally regret my ill judged association with Jeffrey Epstein. His
suicide allegedly has left many unanswered questions, especially for his victims,
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and I deeply sympathize with everyone who has been affected
and wants some form of closure. I can only hope
that in time they will be able to rebuild their lives.
Of course, I am willing to help any appropriate law
enforcement agency with their investigations if required. Oh, it's gonna
be required, buddy, you better lawyer up. You better go
get yourself Dershowitz, because maybe he'll get you another sweetheart deal.
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If he's not in the clink himself. What are you
guys gonna do? Who are you going to turn to?
Maybe Lisa Bloom will defend all of you. The devastated prince,
who is eighth in line to the throne, was told
he could write his own statement in an attempt to
allow him to bow out gracefully. Ah, soak it up,
ladies and gentlemen, soak it up. All right, we've been
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following this case, I know, and it's everybody's different, but
on this podcast for the last three months, about three months,
and we've been hammering Andrew on a regular basis because
it needed to be done. And finally, finally there's some movement.
Finally we can say to ourselves, all right, maybe this
is working, maybe we are having a little bit of
(05:10):
an effect. And even if it's just a little bit
of an effect, right, each one of us has If
all of us around the whole entire planet, not just
on this podcast, but everybody who's interested in the story,
if everybody together is pushing for answers, they're gonna be
forced to give us answers. A royal insider said, when
the Queen and the Prince of Wales stand firm together,
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they are a pretty formidable combination in terms of getting
things done. Well yeah, the Queen, the Queen, the Queen
and the crown Prince. So yeah, you would think, right,
they could do whatever the bleep they want. After informing
the wider royal family first, Buckingham Palace put out a
statement shortly before six pm on the distraught Prince's behalf,
(05:54):
saying I have oh I read you guys that all right?
It is unprecedented for a scene royal to be asked
to stand down in this way and illustrates how damaging
Andrew's BBC Newsnight interview was for himself and the monarchy.
All right, hold on, hit the brakes. It's not the
interview that was damaging. It was his behavior that's damaging.
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The interview just shined the light and pulled the curtain
back on his depravity.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
All right. So let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The interview was necessary, the interview was needed, and the
interview was a long time coming. And now just look
at this and compare what BBC did and what ABC did.
ABC covered they squashed this story because they wanted access
to these royals. BBC and Matlist just toppled the royal
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and they're in England and ABC's in America. So who's
ABC truly looking out for folks?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Think about that for a minute. The mail can reveal
that he even planned to fly at to Boran to
Baran this Saturday for a Pitch Palace charity initiative. Despite
the furor over the last Saturday's television ordeal. In other developments,
more than twenty major companies and charities, including Barclays, KPMG
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and the English National Ballet, distanced themselves from Andrew and
the initiatives.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He has been backing.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, you know what, we could easily look into each
one of these companies and I'm sure, I am sure
when we pull the curtain back, they're not squeaky clean either.
I am sure they have a few sickos running around
in their corridors. As well. A mail investigation called into
question his alibi over a trip to New York during
which Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts, claims they had sex.
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A letter from Buckingham Palace cast out on the Duke
of York's claim about when he first met the tycoon
who killed himself in jail. In August, lawyers for Epstein's
victims called for Andrew to sit down with FBI agents
and give an in depth interview under oathifte nine year
old prints in his team, led by Private Secretary Amanda
thirsk knew speaking publicly about the Epstein scandal was a
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huge gamble. Oh yeah, that's betting the New York Jets
against the New England Patriots or the jets on the
money line. That's the sort of gamble you're taking there.
But they felt backed into a corner following the Sex
Offenders suicide allegedly and repeated claims by Miss Roberts that
she was trafficked by her abuser to have sex with
the Queen's son on three occasions, the first when she
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was just seventeen. Well, what is she supposed to do?
Keep quiet? That's what you guys wanted her to do forever.
That's what ABC obviously wanted her to do as well.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh keep quiet? Who's Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
This is a stupid story, boy, to you idiots at ABC,
I beg on your face now. Huh what a bunch
of morons? Who's making the decisions over there? Disney guys,
you guys need to sell off your news portion of
the company. You really need this in your life. Stick
to making shows like The Mandalorian and cartoons. Miss miss
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Thirsk and her team hoped that by choosing such a
formidable interviewer as Emily Maitliss, the general public would be
convinced of his innocence and honesty. Instead, millions of viewers
were left astonished by Andrew's attempt to explain his relationship
with Epstein with his interview only adding to the doubts
over his account of their time together. Well, yeah, if
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you're gonna have that sort of interview, you better have
all your ducks in a row, your facts locked in,
and you better be innocent. If not, keep your mouth shut.
I mean, we all know that you're a dullert anyway,
Prince Andrew, who did you think you were going to fool?
You're not fooling anybody. You're the George Bush of the
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royal family.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The Duke was.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The Duke was land basted for his decision to fly
to the US and stay with Epstein for four days
after his release from prison for sexual offenses against Chill.
He said he had to tell the financier pedophile in
person that he could no longer have anything to do
with him. It was the honorable thing to do. Yeah,
all right, we get it, we get it. You are
(10:13):
the epitome of honor, right you are. I mean, it
is just you are beyond reproach with your honor, your
ned stark. He was roundly criticized for failing to show
any remorse for Epstein's dozens of female victims. As the
backlash grew, supporters of his key public initiatives, such as
(10:35):
the Entrepreneurial the Entrepreneurial Preneurial Scheme Pitch Palace, began to
openly withdraw their support. Several charities of which he was
a patron also tried to distance themselves from him. Desperate
to move on, officials reiterated their hope that once the
dust had settled, the public would see Andrew as an honest,
decent and honorable man who talk about a big mistake,
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who was making those decisions. Miss Thirsk, Oh yeah, you
better get that resume ready. You're gonna be looking for
a new job very very soon. It was then that
the Queen decided to take action. She asked Andrew to
come into the Palace from his home Royal Lodge in
Windsor to see her in between official duties including audiences
(11:20):
with ambassadors and a public event with Sir David Attenborough.
An insider told The Mail there was a very definite
feeling that everyone needed to think cool, calm, and sensibly
there's been no sense of fury. The Queen and the
senior royals were very much looking at how the fury
was impacting on the general election, on the institution of
the monarchy at a deeper level. So again, it's not
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like the monarchy is trying to hold him responsible because
they think he did something wrong. It's because they want
to fix their image. They want their image to be right.
And that's why I don't understand how any American could
be fascinated with these royals. They're just weird people. It's
a bygone era. There's no more kings, there's no more queens.
There is only the individual, all right, and people need
(12:07):
to remember that the most you know, the the biggest
minority is the individual right. And if we don't respect
individual rights, how do we respect collective rights? And these royals,
they don't respect any rights except their own. The Queen
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has shown very decisive leadership and the differences that she
is energized by having the Prince of Wales with her.
In his statement, Andrew said he unequivocally regretted his association
with Epstein, sympathized with his victims, and would help any investigation.
A Royal aid confirmed the Prince would be temporarily stepping
back from his duties. No time period was specified. He
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will however, continue to attend events as a member of
the royal family, such as the Christmas Day service at
Sandringham and trooping the color Okay, whatever wacky weird stuff
that is. As he is not publicly funded, Andrew receives
an undisclosed stipend from the Queen, believed to be in
the region of two hundred and fifty thousand pounds. His
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diminished role is expected to lead to redundancies in his
private office. It is likely that other members of the
royal family will take on some of the Prince's patronages
and charitable duties. It comes after the Duke today was
seen for the first time since his disastrous BBC Newsnight
interview with Emily Maetliss on Saturday about Epstein, which caused
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a furious public backlash. He was forced to cancel a
visit to the flood hit towns of fish Lake and
Stainforth near Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Yesterday. A source set his trip,
which was not publicized in advance, was scrapped as a
result of the fallout. The Duke had told Maetliss in
his appearance that he did not have sex with Virginia Roberts,
who says she slept with him. Then when she was seventeen,
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Miss Roberts now Miss Joffrey, was trafficked by Epstein in
pictures show the Prince stood with her. In two thousand
and one, Prince Andrew told Matelist he had met Epstein
through the since disgraced financier's girlfriend, Gizlaine Maxwell, back in
nineteen ninety nine, and has been suggested that it is
her London house in which he was pictured with Roberts,
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but a letter written to The Times newspaper in March
twenty eleven by the Duke's then private secretary Alistair Watson,
suggests he may have met Epstein years earlier. Major Watson,
who spent nine years in the role of Andrew's private secretary,
was writing to the newspaper countering claims the Duke was
friends with Saif Gadaffi, but in a now key passage,
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he wrote, there has been widespread comment on the Duke's
relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. The Duke has known mister Epstein
since being introduced to him in the early nineteen nineties,
completely blowing up what Andrew had to say. The insinuations
and innuendos that have been made in relation to the Duke,
are without foundation. The Duke denied he slept with Miss
Roberts on three separate occasions, twice while she was under age,
(15:01):
saying one encounter in two thousand and one did not
happen as he spent the day with his daughter, Princess Beatrice,
taking her to Pizza Express and Woking for a party.
The same alleged sexual liaison, which the Americans said began
with the Royal sweating heavily as they danced at London
nightclub Tramp, was factually wrong, as the Duke said he
(15:21):
had a medical condition at the time, which meant he
did not sweat. He cast doubt on the authenticity of
the picture that appears to be Andrew with his arm
around the waist of Miss Roberts when she was a teenager.
Five multimillion pound businesses have cut ties with Prince Andrews,
dragons Den Inspired Charity, and three more now considering dumping.
The crisis hit Royal since the interview aired. The University
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of Huddersfield is the only organization to vocally back their chancellor,
but this has sparked insurrection among students who are lobbying
Andrew to resign with a not My Chancellor campaign on
campus and a major vote later this week. London Metropolitan
University told Mail Online this afternoon they will review whether
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to keep Andrew as a patron at its next Board
of Governor's meeting on Tuesday, November twenty sixth. All right, now,
here's a quick timeline that they added in this article
as well that goes through the supposed time when Andrew
first met Epstein, the time that he's on record saying
that they first became friends. Whereas we know that's challenged
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now from what Major Watson had to say. Nineteen ninety nine,
Andrew first meets Epstein, reportedly introduced through his friends through
his friendship with Maxwell, the daughter of newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell.
Andrew welcomes Epstein to the Queen's private Scottish retreat in Aberdeenshire.
Andrew later says he sees Epstein infrequently, adding probably no
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more than only once or twice a year. Two thousand,
Andrew and miss Maxwell are seen on holiday with Epstein
at Donald Trump's Mar A Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida.
Epstein and Miss Maxwell attend a party at Winsor Castle,
hosted by the Queen, the Mark Andrew's fortieth birthday, the
Princess's Royal fiftieth, the Queen Mother's hundredth, and Princess Margaret's seventieth.
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Two thousand and one, Virginia Roberts claims who have had
sex with Andrew three times, including one orgy, with the
first encounter allegedly taking place in Miss Maxwell's London townhouse.
Miss Roberts claims to have had sex with Andrew on
two more occasions at Epstein's New York home, and added
an orgy on his private island in the Caribbean. Two
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thousand and eight. Epstein admits prostituting miners and his sentence
to eighteen months in prison. All right, so up into
two thousand and eight, Andrew could have had a legitimate
argument maybe Hey, look, I didn't know what he was
up to. We probably wouldn't believe them anyway, But that's
neither here nor there. He would have at least had
a leg to stand on, right, I didn't know what
he was up to. I mean, you really can't blame
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everybody for what Epstein did, right, Well, I would say, unless,
of course, you're named as one of the accute, as
one of the people who did this to one of
the acute of the accusers. If that's the case, well
then you really have no leg to stand on at all.
So you probably just shut up and hope that you
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don't get caught up in the in the whirlwind, or
be a man in stand and step up to the
plate and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Tell tell the whole story, blow the whole blow it out.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Were you blackmailed by every Epstein? Prince Andrew? Did you
get caught up in that blackmail scheme? Is that how
you ended up with these girls? Why don't you just
tell the truth? Twenty ten, Epstein is released from jail. Yeah, okay, yeah,
because he really did a hard time. He was at
you know, he was at Levenworth. Andrew is photographed with
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the disgraced Epstein in New York Central Park. Footage emerges
years later, reportedly shot on December sixth, twenty ten, showing
him inside Epstein's Manhattan mansion, from where he is seen
looking out from a large door of the property waving
a woman goodbye after Epstein leaves to get into a
chauffeur driven car. So Epstein leaves and they're good enough
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friends that he leaves Andrew there alone by himself to
do whatever he wants. Twenty eleven, the Duke quits his
role as UK Trade Envoy after the fallout from the
Central Park photos. But he kept all the other stuff, obviously,
kept that gravy train rolling right, kept all those public
appearances rolling right, kept doing hanging out with all those
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rich and powerful people while they while girls like Virginia
Roberts were defamed and called all sorts of disgusting names.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Glad you were having a great life.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Duke twenty fifteen, Buckingham Palace denies Andrew has committed any
impropriety after he has named in US court documents related
to Epstein. A woman later named in reports as Miss Roberts,
alleges and papers filed in Florida that she was forced
to have sex with Andrew when she was seventeen, which
is under the age of consent in the state.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The word is forced, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It makes it doubly heinous that she was under it.
But any woman who's forced into a sexual act, I.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Mean, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
At the World Economic Forum in Davas and Davas, Andrew,
in his first public engagement since he was embroiled in
the allegations, respond saying, firstly, I think I must and
want for the record to refer to the events that
have taken place in the last few weeks. I just
wish to reiterate and to reaffirm the statements that have
already been made on my behalf by Buckingham Palace. In April,
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the claims against Andrew were struck from US civil court
records following a federal judge's ruling. Yeah, I wonder who
put their thumb on that federal judge.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
The ABC was so scared to.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Run a story about the royals as well, So who
else are they putting the thumb to? What do they
know about what happened to Epstein in that prison cell?
Has anyone talked about that yet? What do the royals know?
Twenty nineteen, newly released legal documents show that Johanna Schoberg,
another alleged Epstein victim, claimed Andrew touched her breast while
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while sitting on a couch inside the US billionaire's Manhattan
apartment in two thousand and one, the same year, mind you,
that he allegedly raped Roberts. Buckingham Palace said the allegations
are categorically untrue. Epstein is found dead in his jail
cell on August tenth, having killed himself allegedly after being
charged with sex trafficking. Later that month, a pilot on
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Epstein's private jet claims Andrew was a passenger on pass
flights with the financier and miss Roberts. The Sun newspaper
reported that David Rodgers said in the testimony released in
August that Epstein, Andrew, and the then seventeen year old
traveled to the US Virgin Islands on April eleventh, two
thousand and one. This is called be incredibly accused. Okay,
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ABC News, this is being credibly accused. Not only is
she accusing him, now the pilot is corroborating her version
of events. Buckingham Palace describes the evidence statement as having
a number of inconsistencies and said that Andrew was on
a different continent in some cases.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, let's see their receipts.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Following Epstein's death, a statement from the Palace says that
Andrew was appalled by the recent reports of Jeffrey Epstein's
alleged crimes, breaking his silence on the issue for the
first time since twenty fifteen. Andrew then releases a statement
on August twenty fourth, saying, at no stage during the
limited time I spent with Epstein limited time, did I
see witness or suspect any behavior of the sort that
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subsequently led to his arrest and conviction.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're such a liar. You're such a liar.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
On November sixteenth, the Prince gave a disastrous BBC interview
in which he spoke about his friendship with Epstein and
addressed allegations of his own sexual conduct. He faced a
barrage of criticism following his television appearance, with a royal
accused of a lack of empathy with Epstein's victims. One
of the first things I said on here right, where's
the empathy for these girls? Even if you're warrener involved
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at all, How could you not have empathy for what
they went through? Only a sadistic, cold minded lunatic doesn't
have empathy for what they went through. During the interview,
Andrew questioned the Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis twice stated his
relationship with Epstein, who died in jail while facing sex
trafficking charges, had some seriously beneficial outcomes. Really you're the
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Prince of England again. I don't know how many times
I have to say, there's a Prince of England and
you're hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, because that's gonna have
beneficial outcomes for you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, how's it working out now? How's it working out
now for you?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Miss Cleo? Prince nostradamis giving him the opportunity to meet
people and prepare for a future role as a trade envoy.
The Duke denied he slept with Virginia Roberts, one of
Epstein's victims, on three separate occasions, twice while she was
under age, saying one encounter in two thousand and one
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did not happen as he spent the day with his daughter,
Princess Beatrice, taking her to Pizza Express and Woking for
a party. And another thing about that, what kind of
sick sick sob even uses their daughter in their cover story?
What do you think that gives you more credibility? Makes
you look like more of a sociopath. The same alleged
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sexual liaison, which the American said, began with the Royals
sweating heavily as they danced at London nightclub Tramp was
factually wrong, as the Duke said he had a medical
condition at the time which many did not sweat. He
cast out on the authenticity of a picture that appears
to show Andrew with his arm around the waist of
Miss Roberts as a teenager.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
All right, so here we are, folks, here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
We are embroiled deep in the middle of this right now,
right and it is it consume. It's consuming because there
are so many different levels, so many layers to peel back.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But it gives you hope, and it gives you maybe
a little bit of light at the end of the
tunnel that maybe something will happen in this case.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Maybe there really will be some real justice for once.
When you see things like this happen, it's at the
very least, at the very least, it's them admitting he's
made mistakes. And now, if the prosecutors are worth their
weight in salt, they need to pounce on this right now.
They need to request an interview with him, or at
the very least, I hope Chuck Cooper is requesting this.
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Virginia Roberts new lawyer, I hope he is, and with
the kind of lawyer that he is I would not
be shocked if he is going hard in the paint
right now with this case, especially now, a guy like
that smells blood in the water. Forget about it, all right, folks.
If you want to contact me, you can reach me
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Everybody knows about the disastrous interview that Prince Andrew gave recently.
Everybody knows that it was an absolute and utter train wreck.
What nobody expected was this Prince Andrew is being forced
forced to step away from public life. So that is
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the first dominoda fall, folks, in this whole entire dissorted
game that they're playing. The first big dominode to go
now while it's left is for him to speak under oath,
which he supposedly said he's willing to do, so the
FBI needs to get out there. They need to get
him under oath. They need to talk to him and
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either a he needs to be cleared of charges or
B he needs to face justice at the very least,
though at the very least for his enabling of Jeffrey Epstein,
for his cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein, he is going to
live the rest of his life in utter and absolute disgrace.
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And Folks, a lot of that has to do with
your dog ed chasing of this right, keeping up on it,
calling your senators, etc. And making sure it stays in
the news, sharing all the information about this case. If
it wasn't for the public interest in this case and
for the public outcry, we wouldn't even be at this point.
Nobody ever thought that this Prince would be stepping down
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in disgrace like this. Everyone figured they'd close the ranks
and they'd protect them like they always do. Well, not
this time, because, like I said earlier, a million times earlier,
the straw that breaks the camel's back is hurting children,
all right, And if you were involved in that, you're
as big of a scumbag as Epstein. If you enabled it,
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you're just as bad. If you kept your mouth shut,
you're enabling it, you're just as bad. So I think
this is a fantastic first step for him to step
back and be forced to step back by the Queen.
Let's jump into this article and see what the Daily Mail,
who has been a pretty good source of this Andrew
stuff for the whole duration, has to say. Prince Andrew
(02:11):
cast out how distraught Duke of York was summoned the
Buckingham Palace by Queen and Prince Charles and told to
step down from royal life amid fallout from his friendship
with pedophile financier Jeffrey Ebstein. Prince Andrew was forced to
quit royal duties last night, after a dramatic intervention by
the Queen and the Prince of Wales, they took decisive
(02:33):
action to contain the fallout from the Duke's disastrous TV
interview about his friendship with a pedophile billionaire. The interview
triggered days of catastrophic headlines and caused a string of
businesses and charities to desert him. Following lengthy discussions with Charles,
who was touring New Zealand, the Queen summoned Andrew to
Buckingham Palace and told him to step down. So the
(02:56):
Queen and the future King got together and they forced
Andrew out.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Done.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
See you, You're not allowed in public life anymore. You're
living in disgrace.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Here's a statement by His Royal Highness, the Duke of York.
It has become clear to me over the last few
days that the circumstances relating to my former association with
Jeffrey Epstein has become a major disruption to my family's
work and the valuable work going on in the many
organizations and charities that I am proud to support. Therefore,
(03:35):
I have asked Her Majesty if I may step back
from public duties for the foreseeable future, and she has
given her permission. Nah, I don't think you asked for permission.
I think she told you, sonny boy. I continue to
unequivocally regret my ill judged association with Jeffrey Epstein. His
suicide allegedly has left many unanswered questions, especially for his victims,
(04:02):
and I deeply sympathize with everyone who has been affected
and wants some form of closure. I can only hope
that in time they will be able to rebuild their lives.
Of course, I am willing to help any appropriate law
enforcement agency with their investigations if required. Oh, it's gonna
be required, buddy, you better lawyer up. You better go
get yourself Dershowitz, because maybe he'll get you another sweetheart deal.
(04:25):
If he's not in the clink himself. What are you
guys gonna do? Who are you going to turn to?
Maybe Lisa Bloom will defend all of you. The devastated prince,
who is eighth in line to the throne, was told
he could write his own statement in an attempt to
allow him to bow out gracefully. Ah, soak it up,
ladies and gentlemen, soak it up. All right, we've been
(04:49):
following this case, I know, and it's everybody's different, but
on this podcast for the last three months, about three months,
and we've been hammering Andrew on a regular basis because
it needed to be done. And finally, finally there's some movement.
Finally we can say to ourselves, all right, maybe this
is working, maybe we are having a little bit of
(05:10):
an effect. And even if it's just a little bit
of an effect, right, each one of us has If
all of us around the whole entire planet, not just
on this podcast, but everybody who's interested in the story,
if everybody together is pushing for answers, they're gonna be
forced to give us answers. A royal insider said, when
the Queen and the Prince of Wales stand firm together,
(05:33):
they are a pretty formidable combination in terms of getting
things done. Well yeah, the Queen, the Queen, the Queen
and the crown Prince. So yeah, you would think, right,
they could do whatever the bleep they want. After informing
the wider royal family first, Buckingham Palace put out a
statement shortly before six pm on the distraught Prince's behalf,
(05:54):
saying I have oh I read you guys that all right?
It is unprecedented for a scene royal to be asked
to stand down in this way and illustrates how damaging
Andrew's BBC Newsnight interview was for himself and the monarchy.
All right, hold on, hit the brakes. It's not the
interview that was damaging. It was his behavior that's damaging.
(06:15):
The interview just shined the light and pulled the curtain
back on his depravity.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
All right. So let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
The interview was necessary, the interview was needed, and the
interview was a long time coming. And now just look
at this and compare what BBC did and what ABC did.
ABC covered they squashed this story because they wanted access
to these royals. BBC and Matlist just toppled the royal
(06:46):
and they're in England and ABC's in America. So who's
ABC truly looking out for folks?
Speaker 2 (06:52):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Think about that for a minute. The mail can reveal
that he even planned to fly at to Boran to
Baran this Saturday for a Pitch Palace charity initiative. Despite
the furor over the last Saturday's television ordeal. In other developments,
more than twenty major companies and charities, including Barclays, KPMG
(07:16):
and the English National Ballet, distanced themselves from Andrew and
the initiatives.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
He has been backing.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Well, you know what, we could easily look into each
one of these companies and I'm sure, I am sure
when we pull the curtain back, they're not squeaky clean either.
I am sure they have a few sickos running around
in their corridors. As well. A mail investigation called into
question his alibi over a trip to New York during
which Jeffrey Epstein victim Virginia Roberts, claims they had sex.
(07:43):
A letter from Buckingham Palace cast out on the Duke
of York's claim about when he first met the tycoon
who killed himself in jail. In August, lawyers for Epstein's
victims called for Andrew to sit down with FBI agents
and give an in depth interview under oathifte nine year
old prints in his team, led by Private Secretary Amanda
thirsk knew speaking publicly about the Epstein scandal was a
(08:07):
huge gamble. Oh yeah, that's betting the New York Jets
against the New England Patriots or the jets on the
money line. That's the sort of gamble you're taking there.
But they felt backed into a corner following the Sex
Offenders suicide allegedly and repeated claims by Miss Roberts that
she was trafficked by her abuser to have sex with
the Queen's son on three occasions, the first when she
(08:30):
was just seventeen. Well, what is she supposed to do?
Keep quiet? That's what you guys wanted her to do forever.
That's what ABC obviously wanted her to do as well.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Oh keep quiet? Who's Jeffrey Epstein?
Speaker 1 (08:40):
This is a stupid story, boy, to you idiots at ABC,
I beg on your face now. Huh what a bunch
of morons? Who's making the decisions over there? Disney guys,
you guys need to sell off your news portion of
the company. You really need this in your life. Stick
to making shows like The Mandalorian and cartoons. Miss miss
(09:04):
Thirsk and her team hoped that by choosing such a
formidable interviewer as Emily Maitliss, the general public would be
convinced of his innocence and honesty. Instead, millions of viewers
were left astonished by Andrew's attempt to explain his relationship
with Epstein with his interview only adding to the doubts
over his account of their time together. Well, yeah, if
(09:25):
you're gonna have that sort of interview, you better have
all your ducks in a row, your facts locked in,
and you better be innocent. If not, keep your mouth shut.
I mean, we all know that you're a dullert anyway,
Prince Andrew, who did you think you were going to fool?
You're not fooling anybody. You're the George Bush of the
(09:47):
royal family.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
The Duke was.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The Duke was land basted for his decision to fly
to the US and stay with Epstein for four days
after his release from prison for sexual offenses against Chill.
He said he had to tell the financier pedophile in
person that he could no longer have anything to do
with him. It was the honorable thing to do. Yeah,
all right, we get it, we get it. You are
(10:13):
the epitome of honor, right you are. I mean, it
is just you are beyond reproach with your honor, your
ned stark. He was roundly criticized for failing to show
any remorse for Epstein's dozens of female victims. As the
backlash grew, supporters of his key public initiatives, such as
(10:35):
the Entrepreneurial the Entrepreneurial Preneurial Scheme Pitch Palace, began to
openly withdraw their support. Several charities of which he was
a patron also tried to distance themselves from him. Desperate
to move on, officials reiterated their hope that once the
dust had settled, the public would see Andrew as an honest,
decent and honorable man who talk about a big mistake,
(11:00):
who was making those decisions. Miss Thirsk, Oh yeah, you
better get that resume ready. You're gonna be looking for
a new job very very soon. It was then that
the Queen decided to take action. She asked Andrew to
come into the Palace from his home Royal Lodge in
Windsor to see her in between official duties including audiences
(11:20):
with ambassadors and a public event with Sir David Attenborough.
An insider told The Mail there was a very definite
feeling that everyone needed to think cool, calm, and sensibly
there's been no sense of fury. The Queen and the
senior royals were very much looking at how the fury
was impacting on the general election, on the institution of
the monarchy at a deeper level. So again, it's not
(11:44):
like the monarchy is trying to hold him responsible because
they think he did something wrong. It's because they want
to fix their image. They want their image to be right.
And that's why I don't understand how any American could
be fascinated with these royals. They're just weird people. It's
a bygone era. There's no more kings, there's no more queens.
There is only the individual, all right, and people need
(12:07):
to remember that the most you know, the the biggest
minority is the individual right. And if we don't respect
individual rights, how do we respect collective rights? And these royals,
they don't respect any rights except their own. The Queen
(12:27):
has shown very decisive leadership and the differences that she
is energized by having the Prince of Wales with her.
In his statement, Andrew said he unequivocally regretted his association
with Epstein, sympathized with his victims, and would help any investigation.
A Royal aid confirmed the Prince would be temporarily stepping
back from his duties. No time period was specified. He
(12:48):
will however, continue to attend events as a member of
the royal family, such as the Christmas Day service at
Sandringham and trooping the color Okay, whatever wacky weird stuff
that is. As he is not publicly funded, Andrew receives
an undisclosed stipend from the Queen, believed to be in
the region of two hundred and fifty thousand pounds. His
(13:09):
diminished role is expected to lead to redundancies in his
private office. It is likely that other members of the
royal family will take on some of the Prince's patronages
and charitable duties. It comes after the Duke today was
seen for the first time since his disastrous BBC Newsnight
interview with Emily Maetliss on Saturday about Epstein, which caused
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a furious public backlash. He was forced to cancel a
visit to the flood hit towns of fish Lake and
Stainforth near Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Yesterday. A source set his trip,
which was not publicized in advance, was scrapped as a
result of the fallout. The Duke had told Maetliss in
his appearance that he did not have sex with Virginia Roberts,
who says she slept with him. Then when she was seventeen,
(13:56):
Miss Roberts now Miss Joffrey, was trafficked by Epstein in
pictures show the Prince stood with her. In two thousand
and one, Prince Andrew told Matelist he had met Epstein
through the since disgraced financier's girlfriend, Gizlaine Maxwell, back in
nineteen ninety nine, and has been suggested that it is
her London house in which he was pictured with Roberts,
(14:17):
but a letter written to The Times newspaper in March
twenty eleven by the Duke's then private secretary Alistair Watson,
suggests he may have met Epstein years earlier. Major Watson,
who spent nine years in the role of Andrew's private secretary,
was writing to the newspaper countering claims the Duke was
friends with Saif Gadaffi, but in a now key passage,
(14:39):
he wrote, there has been widespread comment on the Duke's
relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. The Duke has known mister Epstein
since being introduced to him in the early nineteen nineties,
completely blowing up what Andrew had to say. The insinuations
and innuendos that have been made in relation to the Duke,
are without foundation. The Duke denied he slept with Miss
Roberts on three separate occasions, twice while she was under age,
(15:01):
saying one encounter in two thousand and one did not
happen as he spent the day with his daughter, Princess Beatrice,
taking her to Pizza Express and Woking for a party.
The same alleged sexual liaison, which the Americans said began
with the Royal sweating heavily as they danced at London
nightclub Tramp, was factually wrong, as the Duke said he
(15:21):
had a medical condition at the time, which meant he
did not sweat. He cast doubt on the authenticity of
the picture that appears to be Andrew with his arm
around the waist of Miss Roberts when she was a teenager.
Five multimillion pound businesses have cut ties with Prince Andrews,
dragons Den Inspired Charity, and three more now considering dumping.
The crisis hit Royal since the interview aired. The University
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of Huddersfield is the only organization to vocally back their chancellor,
but this has sparked insurrection among students who are lobbying
Andrew to resign with a not My Chancellor campaign on
campus and a major vote later this week. London Metropolitan
University told Mail Online this afternoon they will review whether
(16:05):
to keep Andrew as a patron at its next Board
of Governor's meeting on Tuesday, November twenty sixth. All right, now,
here's a quick timeline that they added in this article
as well that goes through the supposed time when Andrew
first met Epstein, the time that he's on record saying
that they first became friends. Whereas we know that's challenged
(16:28):
now from what Major Watson had to say. Nineteen ninety nine,
Andrew first meets Epstein, reportedly introduced through his friends through
his friendship with Maxwell, the daughter of newspaper tycoon Robert Maxwell.
Andrew welcomes Epstein to the Queen's private Scottish retreat in Aberdeenshire.
Andrew later says he sees Epstein infrequently, adding probably no
(16:48):
more than only once or twice a year. Two thousand,
Andrew and miss Maxwell are seen on holiday with Epstein
at Donald Trump's Mar A Lago Club in Palm Beach, Florida.
Epstein and Miss Maxwell attend a party at Winsor Castle,
hosted by the Queen, the Mark Andrew's fortieth birthday, the
Princess's Royal fiftieth, the Queen Mother's hundredth, and Princess Margaret's seventieth.
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Two thousand and one, Virginia Roberts claims who have had
sex with Andrew three times, including one orgy, with the
first encounter allegedly taking place in Miss Maxwell's London townhouse.
Miss Roberts claims to have had sex with Andrew on
two more occasions at Epstein's New York home, and added
an orgy on his private island in the Caribbean. Two
(17:30):
thousand and eight. Epstein admits prostituting miners and his sentence
to eighteen months in prison. All right, so up into
two thousand and eight, Andrew could have had a legitimate
argument maybe Hey, look, I didn't know what he was
up to. We probably wouldn't believe them anyway, But that's
neither here nor there. He would have at least had
a leg to stand on, right, I didn't know what
he was up to. I mean, you really can't blame
(17:52):
everybody for what Epstein did, right, Well, I would say, unless,
of course, you're named as one of the accute, as
one of the people who did this to one of
the acute of the accusers. If that's the case, well
then you really have no leg to stand on at all.
So you probably just shut up and hope that you
(18:13):
don't get caught up in the in the whirlwind, or
be a man in stand and step up to the
plate and.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Tell tell the whole story, blow the whole blow it out.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Were you blackmailed by every Epstein? Prince Andrew? Did you
get caught up in that blackmail scheme? Is that how
you ended up with these girls? Why don't you just
tell the truth? Twenty ten, Epstein is released from jail. Yeah, okay, yeah,
because he really did a hard time. He was at
you know, he was at Levenworth. Andrew is photographed with
(18:42):
the disgraced Epstein in New York Central Park. Footage emerges
years later, reportedly shot on December sixth, twenty ten, showing
him inside Epstein's Manhattan mansion, from where he is seen
looking out from a large door of the property waving
a woman goodbye after Epstein leaves to get into a
chauffeur driven car. So Epstein leaves and they're good enough
(19:02):
friends that he leaves Andrew there alone by himself to
do whatever he wants. Twenty eleven, the Duke quits his
role as UK Trade Envoy after the fallout from the
Central Park photos. But he kept all the other stuff, obviously,
kept that gravy train rolling right, kept all those public
appearances rolling right, kept doing hanging out with all those
(19:24):
rich and powerful people while they while girls like Virginia
Roberts were defamed and called all sorts of disgusting names.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Glad you were having a great life.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Duke twenty fifteen, Buckingham Palace denies Andrew has committed any
impropriety after he has named in US court documents related
to Epstein. A woman later named in reports as Miss Roberts,
alleges and papers filed in Florida that she was forced
to have sex with Andrew when she was seventeen, which
is under the age of consent in the state.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
The word is forced, all right.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
It makes it doubly heinous that she was under it.
But any woman who's forced into a sexual act, I.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Mean, come on, man.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
At the World Economic Forum in Davas and Davas, Andrew,
in his first public engagement since he was embroiled in
the allegations, respond saying, firstly, I think I must and
want for the record to refer to the events that
have taken place in the last few weeks. I just
wish to reiterate and to reaffirm the statements that have
already been made on my behalf by Buckingham Palace. In April,
(20:28):
the claims against Andrew were struck from US civil court
records following a federal judge's ruling. Yeah, I wonder who
put their thumb on that federal judge.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
The ABC was so scared to.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Run a story about the royals as well, So who
else are they putting the thumb to? What do they
know about what happened to Epstein in that prison cell?
Has anyone talked about that yet? What do the royals know?
Twenty nineteen, newly released legal documents show that Johanna Schoberg,
another alleged Epstein victim, claimed Andrew touched her breast while
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while sitting on a couch inside the US billionaire's Manhattan
apartment in two thousand and one, the same year, mind you,
that he allegedly raped Roberts. Buckingham Palace said the allegations
are categorically untrue. Epstein is found dead in his jail
cell on August tenth, having killed himself allegedly after being
charged with sex trafficking. Later that month, a pilot on
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Epstein's private jet claims Andrew was a passenger on pass
flights with the financier and miss Roberts. The Sun newspaper
reported that David Rodgers said in the testimony released in
August that Epstein, Andrew, and the then seventeen year old
traveled to the US Virgin Islands on April eleventh, two
thousand and one. This is called be incredibly accused. Okay,
(21:43):
ABC News, this is being credibly accused. Not only is
she accusing him, now the pilot is corroborating her version
of events. Buckingham Palace describes the evidence statement as having
a number of inconsistencies and said that Andrew was on
a different continent in some cases.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, let's see their receipts.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Following Epstein's death, a statement from the Palace says that
Andrew was appalled by the recent reports of Jeffrey Epstein's
alleged crimes, breaking his silence on the issue for the
first time since twenty fifteen. Andrew then releases a statement
on August twenty fourth, saying, at no stage during the
limited time I spent with Epstein limited time, did I
see witness or suspect any behavior of the sort that
(22:27):
subsequently led to his arrest and conviction.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
You're such a liar. You're such a liar.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
On November sixteenth, the Prince gave a disastrous BBC interview
in which he spoke about his friendship with Epstein and
addressed allegations of his own sexual conduct. He faced a
barrage of criticism following his television appearance, with a royal
accused of a lack of empathy with Epstein's victims. One
of the first things I said on here right, where's
the empathy for these girls? Even if you're warrener involved
(22:54):
at all, How could you not have empathy for what
they went through? Only a sadistic, cold minded lunatic doesn't
have empathy for what they went through. During the interview,
Andrew questioned the Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis twice stated his
relationship with Epstein, who died in jail while facing sex
trafficking charges, had some seriously beneficial outcomes. Really you're the
(23:17):
Prince of England again. I don't know how many times
I have to say, there's a Prince of England and
you're hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, because that's gonna have
beneficial outcomes for you.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Yeah, how's it working out now? How's it working out
now for you?
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Miss Cleo? Prince nostradamis giving him the opportunity to meet
people and prepare for a future role as a trade envoy.
The Duke denied he slept with Virginia Roberts, one of
Epstein's victims, on three separate occasions, twice while she was
under age, saying one encounter in two thousand and one
(23:50):
did not happen as he spent the day with his daughter,
Princess Beatrice, taking her to Pizza Express and Woking for
a party. And another thing about that, what kind of
sick sick sob even uses their daughter in their cover story?
What do you think that gives you more credibility? Makes
you look like more of a sociopath. The same alleged
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sexual liaison, which the American said, began with the Royals
sweating heavily as they danced at London nightclub Tramp was
factually wrong, as the Duke said he had a medical
condition at the time which many did not sweat. He
cast out on the authenticity of a picture that appears
to show Andrew with his arm around the waist of
Miss Roberts as a teenager.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
All right, so here we are, folks, here we are.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
We are embroiled deep in the middle of this right now,
right and it is it consume. It's consuming because there
are so many different levels, so many layers to peel back.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But it gives you hope, and it gives you maybe
a little bit of light at the end of the
tunnel that maybe something will happen in this case.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Maybe there really will be some real justice for once.
When you see things like this happen, it's at the
very least, at the very least, it's them admitting he's
made mistakes. And now, if the prosecutors are worth their
weight in salt, they need to pounce on this right now.
They need to request an interview with him, or at
the very least, I hope Chuck Cooper is requesting this.
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Virginia Roberts new lawyer, I hope he is, and with
the kind of lawyer that he is I would not
be shocked if he is going hard in the paint
right now with this case, especially now, a guy like
that smells blood in the water. Forget about it, all right, folks.
If you want to contact me, you can reach me
at Bobby Kapucci at ProtonMail dot com, Bo b b
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Y c ap Ucci at ProtonMail dot com. And if
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