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December 10, 2025 29 mins
The emerging picture from newly disclosed emails makes one thing brutally clear: Wall Street didn’t just “miss the signs” with Jeffrey Epstein, it consciously stepped over them. By the time many of the major banks and financial institutions continued doing business with him, Epstein’s reputation was already radioactive in elite circles. His 2008 conviction, his widely whispered-about abuse allegations, and his bizarre financial setup were not secrets. Yet he retained accounts, access, and financial services because he was useful, connected, and wealthy enough to be tolerated. Compliance red flags that would sink an ordinary client were ignored, rationalized, or buried when Epstein showed up with political connections, billionaire friends, and streams of money flowing through complex structures designed to obscure scrutiny.


The newly surfaced emails function like a roadmap of receipts, documenting how Epstein actively leveraged this tolerance and how institutions responded. They show bankers, lawyers, and intermediaries discussing transfers, accounts, and logistics with a level of familiarity that makes the “we had no idea” defense laughable. These communications capture the normalization of Epstein inside the financial system—how questions were softened, concerns were deferred, and accountability was treated as optional. Together, they reinforce what critics have long argued: Epstein wasn’t enabled by one rogue banker or one careless department, but by a financial culture that valued access and profit over basic moral and legal responsibility, and now the paper trail is finally catching up to that reality.



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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. Jeffrey Epstein didn't appear out at thin air.
He was kept alive here after year by a financial
system that understood exactly what it was dealing with and
chose to proceed it anyway. There was no mystery about
him inside of those institutions. His behaviors set off the alarms,

(00:20):
his accounts raised questions. His patterns didn't make sense unless
you were willing to accept that something deeply wrong sat
at the center of it all, and instead of stopping it,
the machine adjusted around them. Banks don't just hold money,
They legitimize people. They decide who gets access and who
gets treated like a liability. Epstein was never treated like

(00:41):
a liability. He was handled, managed, tolerated, and ultimately preserved.
Each approval, each exception, each quietly filed report that went
nowhere added another layer of insulation. That insulation didn't just
protect his finances, It protected his standing. It allowed him
to move through the elite spaces without being challenged. Because

(01:03):
institutional acceptance carries its own form of silence, and make
no mistake, there is a specific kind of moral numbness
required to make that work. Ordinary customers get caught off
without hesitation. Accounts are frozen for fractions of the activity
Epstein generated as a matter of routine. But when the
client is wealthy enough, scrutiny turns into patients risk becomes

(01:26):
something to monitor instead of eliminate. The system isn't built
to ask whether harm is being done. It asks whether
the relationship is still manageable. And all of this didn't
happen because there was an absence of rules. It was
a hierarchy of enforcement. Epstein sat high enough that the
usual consequences never reached them. Red flags became internal documents.

(01:48):
Internal documents became someone else's problem, and the farther responsibility traveled,
the easier it was for everyone involved to tell themselves
they weren't the one making the decision. By the time
the public finally saw Epstein clearly, his longevity was already explained.
He had survived not because the system failed to see him,

(02:08):
but because it had learned how to live with them.
And that was possible because financial credibility functioned as cover.
Epstein was a criminal, the system that sustained them was operational,
and that distinction matters because it means this wasn't an exception.
It was a process working exactly the way it was
designed to work. When profit outweighs consequence and silence is

(02:30):
treated as a form of professionalism. Today we have an
article from Bloomberg and the headline how Epstein's Wall Street
contacts helped them build wealth and power. This article was
authored by Max Abelson, Soriah Mattu, Jason Leopold, Harry Wilson,

(02:51):
and Jeff cow Just weeks after Jeffrey Epstein was charged
with soliciting prostitution, he received a coveted invitation from o
Way Health Manager a shot at investing with the hedge
fund Renaissance Technologies, whose reputation for success is almost mythical.
It was August two thousand and six and newspapers were

(03:11):
reporting accounts of Epstein paying teenagers for sex. A rising
star at Smith Barney named Greg Hirsch wrote an email
to Epstein's office. I would like to bring to Jeffrey's
attention that City Group's feeder fund to doctor James Simon's fund,
Renaissance LLC, will be closing to new investors at the
end of this month as it nears its limit of
four hundred and ninety nine investors. I feel it would

(03:34):
be a mistake to not make this investment, wrote Hirsch,
adding that it wasn't typically his style to give a
hard sell. Epstein jumped his chief investment vehicle, the Financial
Trust Company, was in for one million dollars. He wrote,
Let's do it one million FTC. And keep in mind,

(03:54):
this was going on after Epstein was already convicted the
first time around, so previous to that, you could at
least try and make the case that, you know, you
didn't have any idea who Epstein was or what he
was doing. Not that anyone's gonna buy it, but you
could at least make that case. After the fact. How
could you try and explain this away. Oh, I didn't

(04:15):
know what he was doing. I didn't know what was
going on. Everybody knew, especially people that were in business
with them. So the whole entire narrative that they had
no idea and everybody was just blind to the fact
that Epstein was a monster just doesn't work. And when
we're talking about Wall Street, especially in the financial sector,

(04:35):
they most certainly knew what they were getting into. They
didn't care. Two days later, when The Palm Beach Post
published an editorial about Epstein. He was over fifty and
they were girls. His office received the investment details and fees.
The exchange ended with Epstein's one word, go ahead, fine,
because look, in this world, like I've told you for

(04:56):
years now, there is only one crime, and that crime
is being poor. You can get away with anything else.
You can be as big of a scumbag as the
scumbags come. But if you're broke, forget it. Hirsh, who
now runs his own fund, said through a spokesperson that
his interactions with Epstein were solely professional and ended in

(05:18):
two thousand and seven. Before Hirsch says he learned of
Epstein's crimes. Representatives for Renaissance and City Group Incorporated, which
owns Smith Barney at the time, declined to comment. I'm
sure they did. Nobody wants to step in it, and
nobody wants to be the guy that comes forward and says, hey,
this is what we were doing, because then the jig

(05:40):
is up right. So it's better for everybody if everybody
just makes pretend nothing happened. Let's just be quiet about everything.
Let's just make pretend everything's fine and Jeffrey Epstein never existed.
That's what the financial sector wants to do, and that's
certainly what our politicians want to do as well. On
Wall Street, finding success takes a mix of ambition, skill

(06:03):
and luck, but turning a good run into a fortune
and then power requires connections. A cash of more than
eighteen thousand emails sent to and from Epstein's private Yahoo account,
obtained by Bloomberg News earlier this year, shows the abundance
of access he enjoyed across Wall Street and how relentless
he was at transforming it into wealth. And that was

(06:24):
his skill. If this idiot had any skills at all,
it was finagling people into believing that he was some
kind of you know, genius or financial wizard, when the
reality is he was none of it. Just a shyster,
just a conniver, just a bullshit artist, just a piece
of shit. It's been well established that JP Morgan Chasing

(06:47):
Company and other major banks worked with Epstein after he
pleaded guilty in June two thousand and eight to state
level sex charges in Florida, including procurement of miners to
engage in prostitution and sod about a year in jail.
Congressional investigators are probing that business and President Donald Trump,
once friendly with Epstein, signed legislation last month compelling the

(07:09):
Justice Department to release its files on them. And we're
nine days away from that deadline coming into play, so
we better start seeing some documents soon. The Yahoo email
provides new details about Epstein as an investor and advisor,
including how he leveraged influence when his bets lost money.
They also show that epstein ties on Wall Street were

(07:31):
broader than previously known, involving not just standard banking relationships
but some of the most sought after hedge funds not
known to who. I've been telling you this for years.
Everybody's out here chasing bullshit, salacious nonsense, But the real
boogeyman is in the financial sector. And I don't think
people truly understand that these people have been fucking us forever.

(07:55):
Every single war, every single bit of heartache, all rests
at the feet of the finance sector. And yet a
lot of people still don't understand the true scope of
what we're dealing with. We're not dealing with this in
a vacuum. This is how these people are. And if
you think they give one goddamn about you, your kids,
your life, your future, your plans any of it. They don't.

(08:17):
What they care about is wealth and power, and if
that means stepping over a million bodies, so be it.
After stories of Epstein's teenage victims spilled into the open,
Wall Street continued to stay in touch. He had access
to prestigious names and global finance, including Renaissance and the
investment firm of billionaire Carlikon. And as Epstein was directing

(08:40):
his high powered attorneys to pressure the government into offering
him a light sentence, he threatened legal action against barri
Stearns and top executives for steep losses. This is a
man who used to work for bear Stearns, by the way,
a man that was involved in all kinds of bs
and then this piece of shit in two thousand and eight,
after the whole ent higher system tanked, ended up making

(09:01):
like two hundred million dollars. I'm sure all of that
was on the up and up too. The email cash
doesn't solve a central Epstein enigma. How did a former
math teacher without a college degree turn himself into a
globe trotting money manager with his own island. But it
shows Epstein's gamesmanship across Wall Street, where He was chummy,

(09:22):
aggressive and defective. He found the right doors to banks, billionaires,
and investments. When something went wrong, he had a playbook
to handle it, often ruthlessly. Yeah, because that's what a
lone wolf predator does, right, Give me a break. Anyone
who still thinks this guy wasn't an asset and being

(09:43):
run by the government in some capacity is crazy. You
don't get to operate the way Epstein did for all
these years with impunity because you're just some disgusting man
with proclivities with a couple of bucks. That's not how
it works. How does the failed teacher high school end
up becoming a powerbroker like Jeffrey Epstein if he has

(10:05):
no backing? It just doesn't pass the sniff deest Right.
When that high flying career was threatened by investigations, charges
and convictions, not all of his elite connections shunned them. Instead,
some helped them keep the money machine turning. Yeah, because
they were profiting too. When everybody's profiting off the bullshit,
they're much more inclined to help out. Epstein's first stint

(10:28):
in finance ended terribly. In nineteen eighty one, he left
bear Stearns with a cloud hanging over him by his
own account. When his bosses had found out he loaned
fifteen thousand to a friend so the friend could buy stock,
They told him it could violate security's law. The way
it was handled subsequently was offensive to me, and I
decided to resign, Epstein told regulators months later, during an

(10:51):
investigation and other matters, this is where he was flipped.
Nobody wants to talk about it, but this is where
he was initially flipped. And that initial flipping was by
the FBI, and then from there he was farmed out
to the CIA. What you think the CIA is in
paying attention to what's going on, especially when we're talking
about finances and shit like this, they most certainly are.

(11:14):
But when he returned to high finance, this time as
an exclusive money manager, his old firm was woven into
his work. The email show his companies put tens of
millions of dollars in Bear investment funds and bought tens
of millions of dollars more of its stock. He helped
oversee one of Bear CEO's, Jimmy Kaine's trusts. When Bear

(11:34):
stock hit one hundred dollars for the first time, Epstein
bought one hundred chairs and presented them to Kine as
a gift. One document in the inbox reveals Epstein was
also chairman of Liquid Funding Limited, a Bermuda based investment
vehicle that Bear co owned. The emails show two that
he called the shots as money moved out of a

(11:56):
Bear account belonging to one of Epstein's key clients, the
Ohio billlionaire Les Wexner. All of this unexplained. None of
these people called before Congress, and it's left up to
us to figure out what's what. And this is the
biggest problem. There was never a real investigation. This should
have been RICO from the very beginning, but instead what

(12:16):
we got was a tighter scope. And that was all
by design because if they went RICO, all these people
that we're talking about right here, you know, the people
that are funding your favorite politician, these people would not
allow it. And if you think that's crazy or that's
far fetched, you haven't been paying attention. Epstein was savvy

(12:37):
in a fight that began once the subprime mortgage market
sank in August of two thousand and seven, after the
collapse of Bear hedge funds that Epstein had invested in
his office got an email from a lawyer representing other investors,
including Charles fix Err to a Greek beer fortune. The
attorney invited Epstein and his office to join in a

(12:57):
confidential plan to boot Bear's director from fun leadership through
a vote and replace them with an ally, then to
unleash a full investigation into what had gone wrong, positioning
investors to claw back losses. Do it, Epstein told Darren Endyke,
his longtime personal lawyer, another guy that should be up
in front of Congress yesterday. But I guess I'm the

(13:19):
only one who's paying attention here. Three months of emails
and meetings followed as the team kept Epstein's office posted
on strategy and internal fights. In November, the team believed
they had gained control of enough votes to win. It
wasn't that simple. Epstein soon flipped against the investor group,
triggering rage from the Greek beer er. In Dyke wrote

(13:41):
fix His colleagues wrote back, it's with particular ill grace
that you were trying to suggest that. Mister Epstein claimed
surprise at our being angered by his and your misconduct today.
He asked Epstein to explain why. After a month of
his assuring us that he was supporting our efforts, he
did a one hundred and eighty degree turnabout refusing to
vote with the group, thereby ensuring a loss for them,

(14:04):
and thus, well we all know why Epstein was the
ultimate free agent and if he could find a better deal,
he would. Epstein had been playing both sides behind the scenes.
He was sharing intelligence with Kin. The Inbox shows forwarding
him the ill grace email from Fix's colleague. Around the
same time, Epstein emailed the Bear Boss a list of

(14:25):
complaints about the prosecutors investigating him for sex crimes and
money laundering. Still, there was one more twist coming. Yeah,
more than one twist. This shit looks like one of
those talkies. Following bear Stearn's meltdown the next March, Epstein
made preparations to sue Behar and several top executives. According
to a June two thousand and eight draft of a

(14:47):
lawsuit from The Inbox. In it, one of the most
notorious figures of his era presents himself as the opposite
a victim, and this is one of their favorite moves too.
Once they get nailed for having a relationship with Epstein,
one of their favorite moves is to act like they
were defrauded. They were you know, treated wrongly by Epstein,
he stole from them whatever, And just coincidentally, it only

(15:10):
came out after we learned about what Epstein was up
to and he got charged. But previous to that, you know,
nobody was the wiser. The draft Camplan asks for more
than seventy million in damages. It alleges that banker's dump
toxic waste into BEAR funds and depicts Epstein as a
loyal associate who was fraudully induced by manipulative bankers. Bear
betrayed special continuous thirty year relationship with him, according to

(15:33):
this version, learning him to buy and hold steaks and
funds that were riskier than advertised. Oh yeah, I'm sure
that Jeffrey Epstein's bitch ass was bamboozled. The bamboozler was bamboozled.
What do they say, You can bullshit a bullshitter, right,
And if Jeffrey Epstein was anything, his bitch ass was
a bullshitter. And though the draft doesn't name Kane as

(15:57):
a defendant, it turns against him too, alleging that he
gave Epstein false assurance about his bare holdings before the
company collapsed and JP Morgan bought it. Around the same
time of the draft, Epstein's attorneys emailed with a JP
Morgan lawyer about a potential settlement. Epstein sued Behar over
related issues, including fraudulent misrepresentation in two thousand and nine.

(16:19):
Two years later, JP Morgan agreed to settle his claims
against Beherr for about nine million, according to court documents
filed in a separate case. A spokesperson for JP Morgan
declined to comment. Lawyers for the Bear Investment Group didn't
return messages. Cain died in twenty twenty one. During a

(16:40):
given week, one investment sent Epstein's way might have been
for him, but the next might have been for Wexner,
the billionaire behind Victoria's secret. Sometimes even Epstein himself hesitated
to say what went where. In late two thousand and six,
when Indyke passed along question about whether one security investment,
the three times levered basket was for a Wexner family

(17:02):
trust or Epstein's company, Epstein told his lawyer to remind
him about it in a couple of days. Look, there
was so much fraud going on here, and so much
money laundering that it'll make your head spin. And that's
another reason they didn't go the route that they should have.
They should have made this so rico case. If they
did that, this whole last thing is a completely different conversation.

(17:24):
Indike didn't answer specific questions for the story. For a
financial advisor at Merrill Lynch named ed Spector that fluidity
was par for the course. In two thousand and five,
the Merril advisor sent Epstein a reminder about the timing
of an investment for Wexner's wife. A few days later,
he advised Epstein on a peso deal for Financial Trust

(17:45):
that November. In an email about a plan to go
long on the Australian dollar while shorting New Zealand's Specter
also asked if he wanted to split ten million between
Financial Trust and Wexner. Epstein told him all Wexner. The
inbox shows Epstein as a brash power broker who twisted
arms to get what he wanted from Wall Street colleagues,

(18:06):
and though it often worked, sometimes he went too far.
In early two thousand and six, Epstein asked for a
favor that made Specter uncomfortable. According to emails from the
Financial advisor, Jeffrey, I just got back to the office
in New York. Please understand that as I thought about
our conversation the last couple of days, and two thoughts
hit me. First that I do not know the gentleman

(18:29):
no names well enough to approach him on this. He
would look at me like I'm nuts and ask what
my interest is. I know him only from a business sense. Also,
as innocent as the request may sound, it could result
in big problems for me internally if this gentleman doesn't
think it's an appropriate conversation. There is zero tolerance in
the organization. The emails don't spell out what Epstein wanted,

(18:52):
but he kept pressing his advisor. Spector bristled, Jeffrey, as
you know, I have a great deal of respect for you.
I've asked around this afternoon after receiving your email on
a no name basis, and have been advised that I
can have significant issues approaching the topic. I hope you
understand that cryptic exchange and Epstein's July arrest in Florida

(19:13):
didn't stop the pair from doing big business. In August,
Epstein thanks Spector for telling him that a Hurtz investment
had paid two point two million each to Epstein's firm
and to a Wesner trust fund. Later, Spector reminded Epstein
that the deal had been a special opportunity, as you know,
inclusion in Hurtz was limited to clients with one billion

(19:34):
net worth. He wrote, would Epstein want to be included
in Merrill's billion dollar only deals? He added that it
would take a commitment of twenty million or so per year.
Epstein wrote back, got it, I'm in Spector died in
two thousand and nine. A spokesperson for Bank of America,
which bought Meryl that year, declined to comment. According to

(19:56):
an email in late two thousand and seven, Epstein was
also connected to billionaire Carl Kon's investment firm, Icon Capital Management,
sent them revised fees and terms, the kind that are
usually only shared with investors, along with holiday wishes. Icon's
office did not respond to questions, Oh, why would he?
He knows he stepped in it. And this is the

(20:17):
kind of thing that we're going to see. If we
get a accounting of the financials, you're gonna see some
of the biggest names in the history of Wall Street
and the financial sector. And they were all in bed
with Jeffrey Epstein and all the people that are all
of a sudden shocked that this is going down. Well,
where have you been for the past six years? News

(20:39):
reports that Epstein was preparing to plead guilty to sex
crimes didn't stop contacts from pursuing them. An investment firm
called Yin Harbor Drive Capital sent him an email in
February of two thousand and eight with a plan to
profit even if the markets fall. They met that month.
I hope that you found the discussion as interesting and
thought provoking as I did, execute Duncan Yin wrote afterwards,

(21:02):
sending along details about trading Indian equity volatility. Investment talks
continued for months. Bruce Jaeger, a former Berenstern's executive, met
with Epstein about the deal in June, just as Epstein
was finalizing his plan to plead guilty in Florida. But
he had no idea, right, mister Jager had no idea

(21:22):
what was going on. He thought Epstein was just a
great guy. It was great to see you on Monday,
and I'm glad to see that you are keeping such
a positive attitude, Jaeger wrote earlier that month. I'm sure
that you will prevail and make the right decision on
how to proceed. Right before Golaine entered your office, you
asked me if we could start trading, and the answer

(21:43):
is yes. The executive attached details for a five million
dollar investment. Yin didn't return messages. Jaeger said he couldn't
answer questions on the phone and didn't return messages, of
course not. Do you see the pattern here? Do you
see how they all handled them when they were called
on the carpet. Epstein fielded a request for investments until

(22:05):
his last week of freedom. That June, his office got
a pitch for an offshore fund that traded carbon credits.
The next day, he got another nudge from an acquaintance
about investing in an oil firm. On June thirtieth, he
pleaded guilty to two felonies in Palm Beach County, which,
under an agreement that has since become infamous, spared him

(22:26):
and any potential co conspirators from federal prosecution in exchange.
For about thirteen months in jail, Epstein's continued attention from
Wall Street included in exchange with Morgan Staley the email
show Patricia Glass, a senior vice president and director of
portfolio management in its wealth unit, teamed up with an

(22:47):
executive director to talk to Richard Kahn, Epstein's longtime accountant,
and a key deputy. They followed up in October of
twenty sixteen with a presentation on a strategy called risk reversal,
buying one kind of option while selling another. A lawyer
for Khan said he doesn't believe the strategy was pursued.
Lawyers for Con and Endyke said their clients haven't been

(23:09):
accused of witnessing or committing abuse, and that they never
knowingly enabled Epstein to abuse or traffic women. A spokesperson
for Morgan Stanley declined to comment. And this is another problem.
The fact that they weren't charged in the overall criminal
empire is a gigantic problem. How can you look at

(23:29):
this and look at their name littered all over all
this paperwork and not have them caught up. The only
explanation is that the fix is in. Some of Epstein's
most intriguing work wasn't just with banks, brokerages or hedge funds,
to globe trotting billionaires, men who were richer and more
powerful than he was. Epstein offered the services of a

(23:50):
consigliari over email. He was empowered, paranoid, and shrewd. At
the end of two thousand and five, years before artificial
intelligen became an obsession of global capitalism, Epstein had an
idea for Leon Black, the co founder of Apollo Global Management.
Marvin Minsky, a celebrated computer scientist at the Massachusetts Institute

(24:13):
of Technology, was working with colleagues to build a machine
that is capable of common sense thinking, one that can
solve real problems for real people. According to one of
the Yahoo emails, their pitch was to build a nonprofit
for profit spinoffs. Epstein asked an assistant, Cecilia pleads facts
to Leon Black with a note that says, this guy

(24:34):
is the father of artificial intelligence. You could adopt the
whole project and have fun. Minsky died in twenty sixteen.
Documents released last month by a congressional committee also show
Epstein's role for clients as something less conventional than a
mere money manager. In a batch of twenty fifteen emails
that he later forwarded to himself, he tried to shape

(24:56):
Black's financial life. Leon Yesterday, I spent hours upon hours
of my time with your office, he wrote. He complain
that Black had gotten himself into a fix by ignoring
his advice from a year earlier, going so far as
to quote it the family office needs a daddy. Children
with good intentions are running around sniping, nitpicking with little direction.

(25:19):
Epstein made clear that his involvement didn't come cheap, very serious.
I'm willing to continue to accommodate some of your concerns,
but I am under no circumstances, none willing to spend
my time for free. It's not fair, he added parenthetical,
and another inside it, you had claimed I had you
over a barrel, A horrible position to be in with

(25:40):
my very close friend. Unfortunately, I fear that if you
are not cautious in the near future, another barrel will
appear of your own design. Well that sounds threatening, huh.
Imagine having the kind of firepower to say that kind
of shit to Leon Black, Of all people, Epstein was
like Thomas Cromwell and Henry the Ash Here. At the

(26:02):
end of twenty fifteen, an email described one of Black's
deputies as a little man using your power to appear larger.
And another colleague is self aware enough to know she
was over her head. A spokesperson for Black said he
had no comment, of course, not so how about we
subpoena him and force him to comment. Oh, I know
that would take some effort, though, and God forbid. They

(26:24):
subpoena one of their biggest donors in Ohio. The Yahoo
email show. Epstein had wide influence over Wexner's world. He
dictated time off for members of the billionaire's family's office,
orchestrated the movement of money, advised on the payment plan
for his wife's private jet, suggested how to structure the
purchase of a condo for a security staff member, and

(26:45):
pass judgment on senior executives at Wexner's retail Empire L Brands.
He nicknamed one of them Mighty Mouse after the cartoon,
calling him incompetent and delusional in a pair of notes
to Wexner in two thousand and six. In two thousand
and seven, the second email also warned them about his
company's directors. He has no judgment, Be careful. A spokesperson

(27:07):
for Wexner declient to comment. Epstein advised the rich, powerful
and well connected. When Nilli Prael Barrock, whose husband Ehud Barrock,
had been Israel's Prime Minister was making high level introductions
to clients for a fee. She turned to Epstein in
early two thousand and eight. She sent a text of
her client agreement. Taurus Ltd, a consulting firm, would for

(27:31):
thirty thousand dollars a year, identify strategic partnerships, screened business opportunities,
and introduced clients to Israeli business and public opinion leaders.
And look, let's not cut corners here. They're also worried
about releasing this information and embarrassing our allies over in Israel.
There is zero doubt about that. And while I'm not

(27:51):
somebody that believes Epstein was created and managed by the Masad,
he most certainly was doing work for them, and he
was definitely doing work for Ehud. Opportunities kept coming for
Epstein even in his final years. In January twenty eighteen,
he heard from a deputy of music mogul, Tommy Mottola,
about investing in a musical he was producing that covers

(28:14):
the life of disco queen Donna Summer. The executive, Joanne Riti,
told Bloomberg News that the documents were sent to dozens
and dozens of people, and Epstein did not invest. That
April summer, the Donna Summer Musical opened on Broadway. Federal
prosecutors charged Epstein with sex trafficking minors one year later.

(28:35):
So when people ask how Epstein lasted as long as
he did, this is the answer they don't want to
sit with. He wasn't invisible, he wasn't untouchable by accident.
He was carried propped up by institutions that knew how
to keep things moving quietly, efficiently, and without friction. Because
when all is said and done, Epstein didn't beat the system.
He used it, and the system didn't lose control. It

(28:58):
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